February 25, 2025 • 36 mins
Clay's two speeds: chill or nuke. Joy Reid breaks down over being fired. Rachel Maddow suggests MSNBC is racist and Buck has a great suggestion for her to make it right. Megyn Kelly breaks down the ratings numbers inside MSNBC. Even David Hogg admits the Democrat left is a cult. Hey, MSNBC, you can't humiliate and lie to your audience and get away with it. It's not brave to say something after the fact. Clay and Buck battle over White Lotus and Axel F.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody to the Tuesday edition of
The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. The audio phenomenon continues.
Thank you for being here with us. We have so
much to dive into. Doge doing its thing. The cuts
(00:22):
are coming, The cuts are coming fast and furious. The
Federal Leviathan is healing the heat. This is all very
good stuff. Some things and I have to have tip
Chris Rufo for this, that have been found from within
the intelligence community an internal but company remember not like
(00:43):
private time, an internal chat thread that Chris Rufo has
gotten access to from within the IC. So we have
our own classified Now this is unclassified information, but we do.
There's ways obviously you can talk to people in the
building at Langley and you can you know, we're sending
classified emails, classified text messages, those sorts of things. There
(01:06):
was some kind of a thread set up for the
lgbt QIA plus plus members of the intelligence community, and
some of the things that were said are very troubling
and make you think that there are activist weirdos who
have infiltrated the intelligence community in the hundreds at least,
(01:27):
which is and that's just what we can see. So
we shall discuss that a little bit. And I think
actually a producer, Ali, why don't we put out an
asked to Chris Rufosi if he wants to come on
and discuss because I can add a little. He's never
been in the CIA, so I could kind of look
at what he's got and give a sense as to
what I think is going on here. We've also got,
like I said, doge what they're doing the gender madness.
(01:51):
Bill Maher asking one of the pod save bros Hey,
if you think the state should be able to hide
gender dysphorio or dysmorphear, whatever they want to call it
this week from parents. You're in a bad spot because
the American people are not with you. I think that's
a really interesting discussion. David hog Clay, who would definitely
(02:13):
benefit from some chalk, Like we should get that guy.
I don't know if they could do chalk intravenously, but
with this guy needs some chalk from our our friends there.
But anyway, David Hogg talking about Biden's mental decline and
how it was hidden from every I think that's really interesting.
But for those of us who are taking stock of
where the Democrats are at this moment in time, unburdened
(02:34):
by what has been. MSNBC is unburdened by the Joy
Read Show at this stage. And now she's very she's
very upset. Now, I will tell you this, Clay and
I are both nice, Like, we are both nice people.
Clay Clay is a little can be a little little saltier,
(02:56):
little sassy, or sometimes are faster to be salty. I
would say, is that fair?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Am?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I I don't want to speak for you, but you're you.
You like a good scrap online. You know I can
do and I don't.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
I don't like the way I will describe it is
I try to be super nice to everybody, but the
minute that someone is unkind to me, I flip pretty quickly, right,
Like I think that's fair.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yes, yes, Clay has Clay has two speeds, chill with
everybody or nuclear war. Basically, I think that's that's somewhat accurate.
Like I don't force escalation. I'm like, are you really
intending to be so rude? Like Clay is just like
nuke boom gone, So it's accurate. Yeah, exactly, That's how
it goes. I pay attention now with Joy Reid. She
(03:43):
has spent years being quite nasty to people on the right.
I think she has an animus to certain people that
comes out in her commentary, and now she wants sympathy.
This is cut too, and Clay, you can react to it.
Here we go, Joy Reid very sad that she's no
longer getting paid millions of dollars to be horrible at
(04:03):
her job. Played too.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
My show had value and that that that what I
was doing value value. And in the end, I try
not to cry on TV, so I apologize. In the end,
where I land is that the moment that I've of guilt,
that I felt that I went hard on so many issues,
(04:27):
whether it was the Black Lives Matter issues of a
young baby or a mom or dad that was killed,
or you know that Nicole Hannah Jones put into our
spirit that we need to understand sixteen nineteen as the
real founding of this country, whether it's talking about Gaza
and the fact that we as the American people to
have a right to object to little babies being bombed.
(04:50):
And where I come down on that is, I'm not sorry.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Are you sorry? Clay?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
For her no, I'm ecstatic, and I also love that
she started to cry because I want her to be
sad and I want her to recognize that the only
reason she ever had a job was because her bosses
are morons. And even when they recognize she was a moron,
(05:19):
they were afraid to fire her because they were afraid
that she would call them racist. And I think this
is emblematic of how everything has fallen apart. How about
Rachel matt Aubuch. Did you see this? She went on
right after Joy Reid and said MSNBC is racist for
firing Joy. Read this is Rachel mad Albach, who makes
(05:42):
twenty five million dollars a year to do one show
a week. I know she's on for the first hundred
days of Trump or whatever. Nobody seems to really care.
She's lost her mojo. But listen to cut three. This
is how much of a disaster inside of MSNBC is.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I think you would agree with me on this.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
I'm not ever going to and I don't think I
ever have publicly taken shots at my employer on the air.
I think it's super unprofessional. And I also think, like
you're not going to agree with everything that ever happens
to you at any job. For Rachel Maddow, who I
(06:23):
think has been treated more fairly by MSNBC than maybe
anyone in our entire industry.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
They made her a star. She's very replaceable. Yes, they
made her a superstar, paying her tens of millions of
dollars and has absolutely zero gratitude. I'll tell you this,
I have never turned on any employer that I have
ever worked for publicly because I think it with the
exception of CNN, however, I was a contractor there for like, yeah,
(06:50):
short period of time, and that was political. It wasn't that.
I wasn't saying CNN like mistreated me as an employee.
I was just like, they're out of their minds. They
hate Trump and they're destroying the country. That's just the truth.
But in terms of people that you've worked for, I
think it shows a real character deficit, especially especially when
you've been elevated the way that Rachel Maddow has been
(07:10):
an MSNBC to turn around and say, oh, you know,
look at what they're doing. But you know what this
is clay. All the very overpaid white hosts in primetime
at MSNBC, they have to go above and beyond to
make everyone understand how much they care about diversity, equity
and inclusion. And by the way, it's all bs because
if she really thinks it's awful, then she should resign
(07:34):
and she should insist that MSNBC replace her with a minority,
a black woman in particular.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
But this was Rachel. Of course, she's not going to
do that because she wants her money and she also
wants to tell everybody how holier than now she is.
But remember, buck, was that Rona McDaniel that got hired
by NBC News and Rachel Maddow threw a fit and
they ended up firing her. I think it was Rona McDaniel.
This is the not the first time we've seen a
(08:01):
major flare up that has occurred inside of the community here.
But here is Rachel Maddow saying, Hey, basically, Joy Reid
got fired because she's black ANDNBC is racist.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
Listen, there is no colleague for whom I have had
more affection and more respect than Joy Reid. I love
everything about her. I have learned so much from her.
I have so much more to learn from her. I
do not want to lose her as a colleague here
at MSNBC, and personally, I think it is a bad
mistake to let her walk out the door. It is
not my call and I understand that, but that's what
(08:36):
I think. I will tell you. It is also unnerving
to see that on a network where we've got two
count of two non white hosts in primetime. Both of
our non white hosts in primetime are losing their shows,
as is Katie Fang on the weekend, and that feels
worse than bad no matter who replaces them. That feels
(08:57):
indefensible and I do not defend it.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Oh, they're so at MSNBC. They're so racist. All of
a sudden, I got a couple things for you on this, Clay.
One is this is a reminder that as far as
the left is concerned, the metrics don't matter when it
comes to anything that involves race and DEI. Her numbers
are terrible. This is a business right. She doesn't actually
(09:22):
move the needle. It would be one thing, and it's
a different thing if they had a situation where where
Joy Reid's numbers were doing great, but they thought her,
you know, persona was too toxic for the current environment,
which has happened to other hosts by the way, at
other networks, but whatever, and they pushed that person out right,
that would be one thing. Her numbers are terrible, so
(09:45):
objectively she is failing at her job. TV is a
brutal business. You and I know this, so is radio.
By the way, you're not getting the numbers. Somebody else
has to come along and do it. So that's part one.
Part two for me is madam makes what thirty million
dollars a year? Yeah, twenty five million. Now she got
thirty million. They gave her a pay cut to do
one day a week. They dropped her all the way
down to twenty five. I don't know how they can do.
(10:06):
Go she should go to the execs at MSNBC and
say because also Joy reads this, this is one thing
that I'll say is brutal about the particularly TV business too,
in radio sometimes as well. But when the host goes,
the staff goes yeah for the host. And I've I've
been present for when this happens, like I've been there
when the show is I've been on a show that's
(10:26):
been canceled before. And it's like when a head coach
gets fired too, the whole staffuse gets fired. Everybody goes
so everybody goes. So she had probably ten or oh no,
it was way more than that. It was I think
I've seen It's a few dozen staffers working on our show,
and a lot of them are being if not all
of them being let go. My point is merely, if
Rachel Mattat was so upset by this, she should have
gone to them. She doesn't need any more money. She
(10:48):
should go to them and say, guys, take ten million
out of my salary and cover Joy and her staff
for another year. Give them another She could do that.
It wouldn't be as good. People have done that in
media before they've taken There have been actors who have
taken huge pay cuts to pay by the way, Keanu
reeves famously to pay the staff a lot more to
you know, the crew a lot more during COVID.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
I bet you did this, Buck, I mean, everybody at
iHeart took substantial cuts to I know in the sports
department we did. There were no sports going on. I
gave up, I don't remember what it was, like a
third in my salary in order to try to keep
people from getting laid off. I think a lot of
on air people did.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yes, I mean that's what you do for your people, right,
because your people are necessary for the product that you're
putting out and you have a loyalty to them and
vice versa. So I just think it's interesting in Rachel
Mattaw here she is crying about this, or well not
quite crying, that's Joy Reid, but whining about this, and
it's completely within her power to have changed the situation.
She could also just say I'm going to fund Why
(11:45):
doesn't she fund Joy Joy Reid's next media venture. I'm
sure it will be incredibly successful just telling white Republicans
how awful and racist they are every day. I'm sure
there's just a huge audience for that that she could
tap into. So or really all Republicans, but particularly white
republic Constroy Reach seems to have a big problem with
and that's I think the realities of the media environment
(12:06):
right now, Clay reflecting the realities of the political environment
that we're in, which is a different era and Trump
is the new sheriff in town and there's no way
around it.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yeah, and we'll play some of the data because I
think what you hit is so incredibly important. This ultimately
comes down to dollars and cents In twenty seventeen, being
virulently anti Trump made The Washington Post, The New York Times, MSNBC,
CNN and other media outlets tons of money, and so
they leaned into that. What's happened so far in twenty
(12:39):
twenty five is the legacy media has been destroyed in
the last eight years and their audience doesn't trust them anymore.
And I the Megan Kelly numbers and we'll play some
of her diving into the actual number of people that
are listening. We have more people in some cities listening
to us right now on the radio than we're watching
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joy Read in age demos right now, which is pretty crazy.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
We have single stations of the five hundred stations that
this show is currently carried on. I think it might
be like four hundred and ninety eight or something, but
five hundred stations, we have single, single stations that are
more listened to than the entire demo audience for joy
Reads catch right show is that is actually a fact
right now, which is pretty amazing. So we will dive
(13:27):
into all this. And I just have another side note,
but before I forget it, your point play, and I
think it is so cleared out for everybody A lot
of these left wing hume left wing media because they
had control, there was a saturation effect. Yeah, just so
many places and so many they're all saying the same thing,
and they're really not that talented or that interesting. You'll
notice that when somebody on the right leaves the mothership,
(13:49):
generally there's one mothership that they leave, But I'm leave.
When somebody on the right leaves a big corporate TV
place and goes off on their own, somehow, they're very successful.
That's very successful afterwards, because they have an audience, they
have a talent, they have a skill set. Democrats, if
you don't go from MSNBC to CNN, or you don't
go from CNN to NPR or something like that, you
(14:11):
got nothing.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
It's a whole different market. Yeah, they have no actual
audience of fans. And I think that is going to
become very apparent to joy Read that she cannot replicate
her multimillion dollar salary despite the fact she's had the
luxury of coming into people's homes for years to convince
them that they should like her, and they still have it.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
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Speaker 3 (14:44):
Steak is a cheap meal for you. How healthy are
you now, I mean claim that's unbelievable. Steak is pretty healthy.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
They do just have that many calories clay, when you
throw the burnette sauce in there, when you add in
the baked potato with a little ogret tan, when you
maybe do the cream spinach. You know, when you say
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Speaker 3 (16:46):
When we come back here in a little bit, we're
gonna dive into a lot right now. Congressman Jim Jordan
scheduled to join us, our buddy from the great state
of Ohio at the top of the next hour. There
is a report out there that over four hundred thousand
IRS tax returns were intentionally leaked, many of which not
(17:06):
going to shock you were of Republican leaning individuals. Wouldn't
shock me if my tax return is out there somewhere
based on the number of audit requests that I've been
getting from the Biden administration to IRS. We'll talk about that,
but we're also going to talk We mentioned audience and
how MSNBC's audience has collapsed and CNNs has as well.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Megan Kelly had a.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Really smart take on the actual data, and I want
you to hear from her how tiny these audiences really
have become we'll talk about that when we come back.
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about what's going on here over at MSNBC, the meltdown.
You got to understand, you know, this is this is
like the scene in the Lord of the Rings where
Frodo finally well, he doesn't really throw it in. We
know that, uh, what's his name? Not got Gollum? Right,
(19:16):
I'm forgetting the what's his other? The name? That my
precious like the stuff like the yeah, yeah, the little
monster like bites his finger and it falls in there.
But I'm just saying and then soar on and all
the bad stuff goes away. It kind of feels like
that right now. It kind of feels like CNN, MSNBC,
The New York Times, the shroud of sourn is disappearing
(19:36):
from the landscape, and we're like, oh, wow, we don't
have to live in a country run by lunatics anymore.
This is a this is really nice. I'm enjoying it,
and I should know we should enjoy it. You should. Actually,
it doesn't mean that there's not going to be a
an Empire strikes back moment. There will be we all
know that I'm not a triumphalist on this stuff, but
(19:57):
I mean, you know, take take the W when you
get the W. And you have to also remember that
these individuals in the media, particularly under the Trump administration,
well you know, Trump and Biden administrations were vicious to
their counterparts on the right, people like Clay me. I mean,
not that it bothered they're like, oh, they were mean
(20:18):
to us. But these are some of these are horrible people.
I'm just telling you they're not. They're actually it's not
that I just disagree with them. There are nice Democrats
that I think are wrong on everything, but they're not
horribly human beings in the media. And then there are
actually just garbage humans who honestly deserve what they get
at this point, and there's there's a fair number of them.
You know, I don't have to sit here and name
I don't even want to name the names, because you
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know it, it gives them more attention than they deserve.
Now let's get into where Joy Reid is in this
whole situation. Megan Kelly, a friend of ours, friend of
the show and somebody who obviously went independent and did
very well for herself and is doing very well for herself.
And she spoke about what's going on really with Joy Reid.
Let's hear what. She's a savvy media observer. Megan knows
(21:02):
the ins and outs. Let's see what she thinks about
all this play.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
When I was at Fox, a bad night in the
demo would be in the threes, three hundred change, but
it was often six hundred thousand, seven hundred thousand in change.
Here's her demo number from Thursday night, fifty nine thousand,
fifty nine thousand. That's what she got in the overall demo.
She lost to her competitor on CNN who had one
(21:27):
hundred and four thousand, lost a Laura Ingram who had
three hundred and eighty nine thousand.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Lost.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
The whole ratings race inside MSNBC where their great white
hope Jensaki, who's taking over now at nine. Okay, that's
their future. Rachel Maddow, she's their big star for thirty
million dollars a year. All you have to pull is
one hundred and forty four thousand, which I think is
what we got. Maybe overnight at three am during a
(21:55):
weekend program.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
So let me explain this book, because Meghan's taking you
inside the numbers. Everyone is judged in our business by
how many people are watching, listening consuming your content. That
is the business. The more people who watch or listen,
the more you can charge for ad rates, and the
more profitable show is. So what she is talking about
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is people age twenty five to fifty four as the
target demo. That is the age range that a lot
of advertisers want to reach. That is buying a car,
that is buying a house, that is young married, into
young parent, into college age parents wine range. Right, you
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can think about your own life, how you might have
changed from being twenty five to being fifty four. Buck
fifty nine thousand viewers for joyread in twenty five to
fifty four year olds. To put that into context, and
we hit it at this a little bit. There are
city where we are on right now, one of five
(23:04):
hundred cities where more than fifty nine thousand of you
are listening to us right now. The collapse of MSNBC's audience.
She said, I think Rachel Maddow one hundred and forty
four thousand people in the demo. I mean you're talking
about not even able Joyread to fill a single football
(23:26):
stadium with people aged twenty five to fifty four paying
attention to what she is talking about. There are lots
of clips that you or I will share from this
show on video that will get a more substantial audience
than that.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
I also think we shouldn't let the audience escape from
this conversation unscathed. I think we should take a moment
to dunk on the MSNBC audience too, because what does
this tell us. It tells us that for years the
audience that was watching really believe that Trump was Hitler
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and that Russia collusion was a thing, and and you know,
Trump was the end of democracy. So they are easily
misled in fool. That's part one. But maybe even more
poignant in the moment is that there are a bunch
of babies play. And I'll tell you all this right now.
Going into this election, yes, we felt very confident Trump
(24:24):
was going to win, as you know, you can go
back and play the tape, and you know he was
going up against Kamala for heaven's sakes, like we thought Trump.
But you know, it's a crazy world. Look look at
twenty twenty. You know, you can't discount anything. There was
never a moment where Clay and I, talking off air,
were like, oh man, what's what if will everyone just
stop caring about the news and the country if Kamala
(24:46):
were to win, Like, what's going to happen? Because we
know all of you want information, care about the country,
and have you know, have the emotional fortitude to you know, yeah,
we would have been a bu of a week if
Kamala had won the election. We would have come back
here and said, all right, how do we how do
we you know, thwart the agenda? How do we get
(25:08):
ready for the next round? How do we save the country?
And this NBC it's like they're all taking their ball home.
No one can play, They're all crying about it.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
And the audience is finally bailing because I'm like probably
many of you who said, if you're constantly lied to,
I don't mean you disagree with somebody's opinion. Yeah, yeah,
the buck is totally wrong about the Beverly Hills cop movie,
Like it's actually pretty entertaining.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Just keep just keep digging that ditch to go. But
and by the way, the.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Caller the other day, anyone but you great recent romantic
comedy Glenn Powell, Sidney Switting.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
You might disagree with that.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
But if I came on and I said, hey, the
new Beverly Hills cop.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Movie or the new Anyone but You movie.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Made a billion dollars at the box office and is
the most successful movie of all time, and you listen
to me, and then you went and looked it up
and you.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Were like, wait, he's totally wrong about that.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
You should not trust me as much when you get
a fact wrong, not an opinion, because we can all
be wrong about what we expect to happen. For instance,
Buck went underground in the Great City of Atlantis on
Buck Island over whether Biden was going to remain as
the nominee.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
They still should have kept him. They still should have
kept him. I'm just telling you it was crazy what
they did. But keep going.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
And I swung and missed on. Surely they're not dumb
enough to actually elevate Kamala. I thought they would find
somebody more appealing than her. Right, those are opinions. It's
hard to predict the future. But if you get facts wrong,
and MSNBC got a lot of facts wrong, and they
just kept stacking them one after another. Eventually the audience
(26:51):
comes to distrust you. And I think that's actually the
story of MSNBC. Not only joy Read not interesting, not
very talented, but the platform che's on MSNBC. As you
heard Megan Kelly actually bring the data. The audience has
just vanished overnight, and the young audience in particular that.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Is twenty three. But there are more Democrats watching Fox
News every night now.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
They promised a result really as well, Yes, because they
went so all they abandoned all objectivity and decided that
they were all in on activism because it was so
worth it in this moment, because this was the last shot.
They're a little bit like a cult that was telling
us the world will end in twenty twenty four if
Donald Trump wins. Donald Trump won and the world didn't end, correct,
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some of the cult members wake up.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Or they go I thought I was going to be
in the space planet of the lizard people, and they're
all sad about it, you know, and they've got their
little special travel kit ready to go to the planet
they were promised they would elevate too. No, that doesn't
actually happen. I think that I mentioned before David Hogg
desperately in need of chalk. We should send I'm a
package of it. I think David Hogg speaking out about
(28:05):
the Biden mental claim. This guy's the vice DNC chair,
which is also remarkable. I mean, has neither ability, nor accomplishment,
nor wisdom, nor virtue nor bravery, don't even get me
started the whole thing. But here he is saying something
that is obviously true. Clay about your point with the lying,
and I think this even gets a little bit worse
than the lying. It takes it. But here's what David
Hogg had to say. He's the vice chair of the
(28:25):
DNC at sixteen.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Frankly, anybody that did speak out about that was immediately ostracized.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
In our party.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
They were right, And I know that we like to
claim that we're not a cult, but anybody who did
say that President Biden was too old basically had their
career destroyed. That's a problem. All the people who said like, no,
we're just gonna we're gonna keep doing all this stuff
to make sure that everything's good and we don't need
to talk about the president's age now they don't have
(28:52):
a job, right, What good does that do? But the
reality is if any single one of them spoke up
about it, they probably wouldn't have kept their job and
they would have been ostracized and effectively excommunicated from the party.
That is a huge problem. There are many lessons we
need to learn from the selection, but that is one
of the main ones that we have to learn is
that we cannot be.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
A cult that is one hundred percent accurate. That is
actually I will give him full credit and astute well.
I would say I shouldn't say a STU because it's obvious,
but a truthful observation from David Hogg. But here's clay
where I think it's a bigger problem for Democrats. They
humiliated their base too. The MSNBC audience not only was
promised and lied to, but the MSNBC audience feels humiliated
(29:33):
because they believed this garbage and now everyone can see
it's garbage. They believed Joe Scarborough when he said less
than a year ago that Biden is the sharpest he
has ever been in his eighty years of life. They
believed him. You can't humiliate your audience and get away
with it. I think that's true.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
I will say to David Hogg, if you followed up
and said, you know what, you're right, Democrat Party shouldn't
be a cult, so you definitely belie leave that men
who say they are women are not actually women, right,
And he'd be like, no, no, no, they're women. So he's
willing to say I think it's important here, Oh, Joe
(30:11):
Biden was not mentally and physically capable of being president.
Because Biden is now off the stage, he's not willing
to address the cult members on the things that the
cult still believes, which are, for instance, hey, men should
be able to play women's sports and be the best
female athlete on the planet. He wouldn't take the step
(30:31):
to actually speak truth to power. It's not brave to
say something that everybody in retrospect has decided is true.
It's brave to say something that is true when everybody
still hasn't decided it's true yet.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
I think that until you see the Democrats have the
moment of honesty about the whole trans thing that needs
to happen for them to be out of pure cult status,
they're just going to keep spinning their wheels. But they
they tried this when they had all the media at
their disposal, that they did and they had so much control,
(31:07):
and they had Facebook, and they had Twitter, and they
had all these things. They tried to make us all
celebrate the lie. And they can't do it anymore. And
I don't know how they walk it back without admitting
that the whole thing was a lie, a bit like
they did with Joe Biden, which you know that that
whole thing was such an embarrassment to their party, and
(31:28):
I think that the damage that it has done is
going to continue for a long time. Well, take some
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I'm drinking my crocket coffee buck. I had a late
night and an early morning. I was watching White Lotus
season two sorry, season three episode.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
What do we think about that? First episode? I think
you might redeem yourself here. It was almost on the
It was a bad first episode. Second episode was good.
I watched it last night. I have no idea how
many of you watch. There have been three seasons.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
It's a murder mystery on HBO about privileged, rich people
who go away on vacation and you try to find
out who died.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
That's the story in essence. I'm glad the second because
Kerry and I had that one slated for this weekend.
But the first episode was trash, so at least you
recognize that Clay, there's hope for you. Read the first
episode was trash, So there we go.
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Speaker 1 (34:49):
He has sent us a message and here is what
he had to say.
Speaker 7 (34:52):
Hey guys, this is Jeff, a truck driver from Missouri.
I just wanted to say I took Clay's advice and
watched Axelf last night.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
I thought it was pretty good myself.
Speaker 7 (35:01):
I don't know what you were thinking, Buck, but hey,
you know everyone has their own taste.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Well there, Jeff, I love you, sir. You're a great
American and a patriot. But I think you're off. I
think you've hit the wrong interstate on this one. Maybe
uh maybe it cuts somebody off and uh they gotten
a little bit of a wreck. Because I think you're
you're off off the Mark on this one. I will
raise you listener Rick from Mississippi. This is talkback CC.
Speaker 7 (35:29):
Just have to say I disagree with Clayton and one
hundred percent agree with Buck at Beverly Hills cop the
new one was trash compared to the originals.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
I firston listener Rick, also in a truck. I think
you might have also been in a truck that we
have dueling truck drivers over whether Axelf was good or not.
And as I've always said, Missouri truck drivers far more
trustworthy the Mississippi truck drivers. I can't believe he's throwing
Mississippi truckers under the bus like this just for Axilouri.
Everybody knows Missouri truck drivers have great taste. Mississippi truck
(36:06):
drivers not so much. When we come back, we are
scheduled to be joined by our good friend Jim Jordan.
News coming out of the House Judiciary Committee over four
hundred thousand reported tax returns leaked. We'll dive into that also, Buck,
some good news out there for those of us who
are Star Wars fans. Border numbers are phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
And an update on the Philadelphia Eagles, your chosen Super
Bowl team, and what they are planning on all that
still to come. Here on the Tuesday edition of Clay
and Buck, Thank y'all for hanging with us.
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody to the Tuesday edition of
The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. The audio phenomenon continues.
Thank you for being here with us. We have so
much to dive into. Doge doing its thing. The cuts
(00:22):
are coming, The cuts are coming fast and furious. The
Federal Leviathan is healing the heat. This is all very
good stuff. Some things and I have to have tip
Chris Rufo for this, that have been found from within
the intelligence community an internal but company remember not like
(00:43):
private time, an internal chat thread that Chris Rufo has
gotten access to from within the IC. So we have
our own classified Now this is unclassified information, but we do.
There's ways obviously you can talk to people in the
building at Langley and you can you know, we're sending
classified emails, classified text messages, those sorts of things. There
(01:06):
was some kind of a thread set up for the
lgbt QIA plus plus members of the intelligence community, and
some of the things that were said are very troubling
and make you think that there are activist weirdos who
have infiltrated the intelligence community in the hundreds at least,
(01:27):
which is and that's just what we can see. So
we shall discuss that a little bit. And I think
actually a producer, Ali, why don't we put out an
asked to Chris Rufosi if he wants to come on
and discuss because I can add a little. He's never
been in the CIA, so I could kind of look
at what he's got and give a sense as to
what I think is going on here. We've also got,
like I said, doge what they're doing the gender madness.
(01:51):
Bill Maher asking one of the pod save bros Hey,
if you think the state should be able to hide
gender dysphorio or dysmorphear, whatever they want to call it
this week from parents. You're in a bad spot because
the American people are not with you. I think that's
a really interesting discussion. David hog Clay, who would definitely
(02:13):
benefit from some chalk, Like we should get that guy.
I don't know if they could do chalk intravenously, but
with this guy needs some chalk from our our friends there.
But anyway, David Hogg talking about Biden's mental decline and
how it was hidden from every I think that's really interesting.
But for those of us who are taking stock of
where the Democrats are at this moment in time, unburdened
(02:34):
by what has been. MSNBC is unburdened by the Joy
Read Show at this stage. And now she's very she's
very upset. Now, I will tell you this, Clay and
I are both nice, Like, we are both nice people.
Clay Clay is a little can be a little little saltier,
(02:56):
little sassy, or sometimes are faster to be salty. I
would say, is that fair?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Am?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I I don't want to speak for you, but you're you.
You like a good scrap online. You know I can
do and I don't.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
I don't like the way I will describe it is
I try to be super nice to everybody, but the
minute that someone is unkind to me, I flip pretty quickly, right,
Like I think that's fair.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yes, yes, Clay has Clay has two speeds, chill with
everybody or nuclear war. Basically, I think that's that's somewhat accurate.
Like I don't force escalation. I'm like, are you really
intending to be so rude? Like Clay is just like
nuke boom gone, So it's accurate. Yeah, exactly, That's how
it goes. I pay attention now with Joy Reid. She
(03:43):
has spent years being quite nasty to people on the right.
I think she has an animus to certain people that
comes out in her commentary, and now she wants sympathy.
This is cut too, and Clay, you can react to it.
Here we go, Joy Reid very sad that she's no
longer getting paid millions of dollars to be horrible at
(04:03):
her job. Played too.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
My show had value and that that that what I
was doing value value. And in the end, I try
not to cry on TV, so I apologize. In the end,
where I land is that the moment that I've of guilt,
that I felt that I went hard on so many issues,
(04:27):
whether it was the Black Lives Matter issues of a
young baby or a mom or dad that was killed,
or you know that Nicole Hannah Jones put into our
spirit that we need to understand sixteen nineteen as the
real founding of this country, whether it's talking about Gaza
and the fact that we as the American people to
have a right to object to little babies being bombed.
(04:50):
And where I come down on that is, I'm not sorry.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Are you sorry? Clay?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
For her no, I'm ecstatic, and I also love that
she started to cry because I want her to be
sad and I want her to recognize that the only
reason she ever had a job was because her bosses
are morons. And even when they recognize she was a moron,
(05:19):
they were afraid to fire her because they were afraid
that she would call them racist. And I think this
is emblematic of how everything has fallen apart. How about
Rachel matt Aubuch. Did you see this? She went on
right after Joy Reid and said MSNBC is racist for
firing Joy. Read this is Rachel mad Albach, who makes
(05:42):
twenty five million dollars a year to do one show
a week. I know she's on for the first hundred
days of Trump or whatever. Nobody seems to really care.
She's lost her mojo. But listen to cut three. This
is how much of a disaster inside of MSNBC is.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I think you would agree with me on this.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
I'm not ever going to and I don't think I
ever have publicly taken shots at my employer on the air.
I think it's super unprofessional. And I also think, like
you're not going to agree with everything that ever happens
to you at any job. For Rachel Maddow, who I
(06:23):
think has been treated more fairly by MSNBC than maybe
anyone in our entire industry.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
They made her a star. She's very replaceable. Yes, they
made her a superstar, paying her tens of millions of
dollars and has absolutely zero gratitude. I'll tell you this,
I have never turned on any employer that I have
ever worked for publicly because I think it with the
exception of CNN, however, I was a contractor there for like, yeah,
(06:50):
short period of time, and that was political. It wasn't that.
I wasn't saying CNN like mistreated me as an employee.
I was just like, they're out of their minds. They
hate Trump and they're destroying the country. That's just the truth.
But in terms of people that you've worked for, I
think it shows a real character deficit, especially especially when
you've been elevated the way that Rachel Maddow has been
(07:10):
an MSNBC to turn around and say, oh, you know,
look at what they're doing. But you know what this
is clay. All the very overpaid white hosts in primetime
at MSNBC, they have to go above and beyond to
make everyone understand how much they care about diversity, equity
and inclusion. And by the way, it's all bs because
if she really thinks it's awful, then she should resign
(07:34):
and she should insist that MSNBC replace her with a minority,
a black woman in particular.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
But this was Rachel. Of course, she's not going to
do that because she wants her money and she also
wants to tell everybody how holier than now she is.
But remember, buck, was that Rona McDaniel that got hired
by NBC News and Rachel Maddow threw a fit and
they ended up firing her. I think it was Rona McDaniel.
This is the not the first time we've seen a
(08:01):
major flare up that has occurred inside of the community here.
But here is Rachel Maddow saying, Hey, basically, Joy Reid
got fired because she's black ANDNBC is racist.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
Listen, there is no colleague for whom I have had
more affection and more respect than Joy Reid. I love
everything about her. I have learned so much from her.
I have so much more to learn from her. I
do not want to lose her as a colleague here
at MSNBC, and personally, I think it is a bad
mistake to let her walk out the door. It is
not my call and I understand that, but that's what
(08:36):
I think. I will tell you. It is also unnerving
to see that on a network where we've got two
count of two non white hosts in primetime. Both of
our non white hosts in primetime are losing their shows,
as is Katie Fang on the weekend, and that feels
worse than bad no matter who replaces them. That feels
(08:57):
indefensible and I do not defend it.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Oh, they're so at MSNBC. They're so racist. All of
a sudden, I got a couple things for you on this, Clay.
One is this is a reminder that as far as
the left is concerned, the metrics don't matter when it
comes to anything that involves race and DEI. Her numbers
are terrible. This is a business right. She doesn't actually
(09:22):
move the needle. It would be one thing, and it's
a different thing if they had a situation where where
Joy Reid's numbers were doing great, but they thought her,
you know, persona was too toxic for the current environment,
which has happened to other hosts by the way, at
other networks, but whatever, and they pushed that person out right,
that would be one thing. Her numbers are terrible, so
(09:45):
objectively she is failing at her job. TV is a
brutal business. You and I know this, so is radio.
By the way, you're not getting the numbers. Somebody else
has to come along and do it. So that's part one.
Part two for me is madam makes what thirty million
dollars a year? Yeah, twenty five million. Now she got
thirty million. They gave her a pay cut to do
one day a week. They dropped her all the way
down to twenty five. I don't know how they can do.
(10:06):
Go she should go to the execs at MSNBC and
say because also Joy reads this, this is one thing
that I'll say is brutal about the particularly TV business too,
in radio sometimes as well. But when the host goes,
the staff goes yeah for the host. And I've I've
been present for when this happens, like I've been there
when the show is I've been on a show that's
(10:26):
been canceled before. And it's like when a head coach
gets fired too, the whole staffuse gets fired. Everybody goes
so everybody goes. So she had probably ten or oh no,
it was way more than that. It was I think
I've seen It's a few dozen staffers working on our show,
and a lot of them are being if not all
of them being let go. My point is merely, if
Rachel Mattat was so upset by this, she should have
gone to them. She doesn't need any more money. She
(10:48):
should go to them and say, guys, take ten million
out of my salary and cover Joy and her staff
for another year. Give them another She could do that.
It wouldn't be as good. People have done that in
media before they've taken There have been actors who have
taken huge pay cuts to pay by the way, Keanu
reeves famously to pay the staff a lot more to
you know, the crew a lot more during COVID.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
I bet you did this, Buck, I mean, everybody at
iHeart took substantial cuts to I know in the sports
department we did. There were no sports going on. I
gave up, I don't remember what it was, like a
third in my salary in order to try to keep
people from getting laid off. I think a lot of
on air people did.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yes, I mean that's what you do for your people, right,
because your people are necessary for the product that you're
putting out and you have a loyalty to them and
vice versa. So I just think it's interesting in Rachel
Mattaw here she is crying about this, or well not
quite crying, that's Joy Reid, but whining about this, and
it's completely within her power to have changed the situation.
She could also just say I'm going to fund Why
(11:45):
doesn't she fund Joy Joy Reid's next media venture. I'm
sure it will be incredibly successful just telling white Republicans
how awful and racist they are every day. I'm sure
there's just a huge audience for that that she could
tap into. So or really all Republicans, but particularly white
republic Constroy Reach seems to have a big problem with
and that's I think the realities of the media environment
(12:06):
right now, Clay reflecting the realities of the political environment
that we're in, which is a different era and Trump
is the new sheriff in town and there's no way
around it.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yeah, and we'll play some of the data because I
think what you hit is so incredibly important. This ultimately
comes down to dollars and cents In twenty seventeen, being
virulently anti Trump made The Washington Post, The New York Times, MSNBC,
CNN and other media outlets tons of money, and so
they leaned into that. What's happened so far in twenty
(12:39):
twenty five is the legacy media has been destroyed in
the last eight years and their audience doesn't trust them anymore.
And I the Megan Kelly numbers and we'll play some
of her diving into the actual number of people that
are listening. We have more people in some cities listening
to us right now on the radio than we're watching
(13:01):
joy Read in age demos right now, which is pretty crazy.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
We have single stations of the five hundred stations that
this show is currently carried on. I think it might
be like four hundred and ninety eight or something, but
five hundred stations, we have single, single stations that are
more listened to than the entire demo audience for joy
Reads catch right show is that is actually a fact
right now, which is pretty amazing. So we will dive
(13:27):
into all this. And I just have another side note,
but before I forget it, your point play, and I
think it is so cleared out for everybody A lot
of these left wing hume left wing media because they
had control, there was a saturation effect. Yeah, just so
many places and so many they're all saying the same thing,
and they're really not that talented or that interesting. You'll
notice that when somebody on the right leaves the mothership,
(13:49):
generally there's one mothership that they leave, But I'm leave.
When somebody on the right leaves a big corporate TV
place and goes off on their own, somehow, they're very successful.
That's very successful afterwards, because they have an audience, they
have a talent, they have a skill set. Democrats, if
you don't go from MSNBC to CNN, or you don't
go from CNN to NPR or something like that, you
(14:11):
got nothing.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
It's a whole different market. Yeah, they have no actual
audience of fans. And I think that is going to
become very apparent to joy Read that she cannot replicate
her multimillion dollar salary despite the fact she's had the
luxury of coming into people's homes for years to convince
them that they should like her, and they still have it.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
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It's exciting. Steak night. That's old Carrie. I said, it's
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I got family in down this week.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Steak is a cheap meal for you. How healthy are
you now, I mean claim that's unbelievable. Steak is pretty healthy.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
They do just have that many calories clay, when you
throw the burnette sauce in there, when you add in
the baked potato with a little ogret tan, when you
maybe do the cream spinach. You know, when you say
there's a way to do steak that anyway, we'll talk
Dian another day, point being tomorrow night, I'm diving into ribbis,
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Speaker 3 (16:46):
When we come back here in a little bit, we're
gonna dive into a lot right now. Congressman Jim Jordan
scheduled to join us, our buddy from the great state
of Ohio at the top of the next hour. There
is a report out there that over four hundred thousand
IRS tax returns were intentionally leaked, many of which not
(17:06):
going to shock you were of Republican leaning individuals. Wouldn't
shock me if my tax return is out there somewhere
based on the number of audit requests that I've been
getting from the Biden administration to IRS. We'll talk about that,
but we're also going to talk We mentioned audience and
how MSNBC's audience has collapsed and CNNs has as well.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Megan Kelly had a.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Really smart take on the actual data, and I want
you to hear from her how tiny these audiences really
have become we'll talk about that when we come back.
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about what's going on here over at MSNBC, the meltdown.
You got to understand, you know, this is this is
like the scene in the Lord of the Rings where
Frodo finally well, he doesn't really throw it in. We
know that, uh, what's his name? Not got Gollum? Right,
(19:16):
I'm forgetting the what's his other? The name? That my
precious like the stuff like the yeah, yeah, the little
monster like bites his finger and it falls in there.
But I'm just saying and then soar on and all
the bad stuff goes away. It kind of feels like
that right now. It kind of feels like CNN, MSNBC,
The New York Times, the shroud of sourn is disappearing
(19:36):
from the landscape, and we're like, oh, wow, we don't
have to live in a country run by lunatics anymore.
This is a this is really nice. I'm enjoying it,
and I should know we should enjoy it. You should. Actually,
it doesn't mean that there's not going to be a
an Empire strikes back moment. There will be we all
know that I'm not a triumphalist on this stuff, but
(19:57):
I mean, you know, take take the W when you
get the W. And you have to also remember that
these individuals in the media, particularly under the Trump administration,
well you know, Trump and Biden administrations were vicious to
their counterparts on the right, people like Clay me. I mean,
not that it bothered they're like, oh, they were mean
(20:18):
to us. But these are some of these are horrible people.
I'm just telling you they're not. They're actually it's not
that I just disagree with them. There are nice Democrats
that I think are wrong on everything, but they're not
horribly human beings in the media. And then there are
actually just garbage humans who honestly deserve what they get
at this point, and there's there's a fair number of them.
You know, I don't have to sit here and name
I don't even want to name the names, because you
(20:38):
know it, it gives them more attention than they deserve.
Now let's get into where Joy Reid is in this
whole situation. Megan Kelly, a friend of ours, friend of
the show and somebody who obviously went independent and did
very well for herself and is doing very well for herself.
And she spoke about what's going on really with Joy Reid.
Let's hear what. She's a savvy media observer. Megan knows
(21:02):
the ins and outs. Let's see what she thinks about
all this play.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
When I was at Fox, a bad night in the
demo would be in the threes, three hundred change, but
it was often six hundred thousand, seven hundred thousand in change.
Here's her demo number from Thursday night, fifty nine thousand,
fifty nine thousand. That's what she got in the overall demo.
She lost to her competitor on CNN who had one
(21:27):
hundred and four thousand, lost a Laura Ingram who had
three hundred and eighty nine thousand.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Lost.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
The whole ratings race inside MSNBC where their great white
hope Jensaki, who's taking over now at nine. Okay, that's
their future. Rachel Maddow, she's their big star for thirty
million dollars a year. All you have to pull is
one hundred and forty four thousand, which I think is
what we got. Maybe overnight at three am during a
(21:55):
weekend program.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
So let me explain this book, because Meghan's taking you
inside the numbers. Everyone is judged in our business by
how many people are watching, listening consuming your content. That
is the business. The more people who watch or listen,
the more you can charge for ad rates, and the
more profitable show is. So what she is talking about
(22:21):
is people age twenty five to fifty four as the
target demo. That is the age range that a lot
of advertisers want to reach. That is buying a car,
that is buying a house, that is young married, into
young parent, into college age parents wine range. Right, you
(22:42):
can think about your own life, how you might have
changed from being twenty five to being fifty four. Buck
fifty nine thousand viewers for joyread in twenty five to
fifty four year olds. To put that into context, and
we hit it at this a little bit. There are
city where we are on right now, one of five
(23:04):
hundred cities where more than fifty nine thousand of you
are listening to us right now. The collapse of MSNBC's audience.
She said, I think Rachel Maddow one hundred and forty
four thousand people in the demo. I mean you're talking
about not even able Joyread to fill a single football
(23:26):
stadium with people aged twenty five to fifty four paying
attention to what she is talking about. There are lots
of clips that you or I will share from this
show on video that will get a more substantial audience
than that.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
I also think we shouldn't let the audience escape from
this conversation unscathed. I think we should take a moment
to dunk on the MSNBC audience too, because what does
this tell us. It tells us that for years the
audience that was watching really believe that Trump was Hitler
(24:03):
and that Russia collusion was a thing, and and you know,
Trump was the end of democracy. So they are easily
misled in fool. That's part one. But maybe even more
poignant in the moment is that there are a bunch
of babies play. And I'll tell you all this right now.
Going into this election, yes, we felt very confident Trump
(24:24):
was going to win, as you know, you can go
back and play the tape, and you know he was
going up against Kamala for heaven's sakes, like we thought Trump.
But you know, it's a crazy world. Look look at
twenty twenty. You know, you can't discount anything. There was
never a moment where Clay and I, talking off air,
were like, oh man, what's what if will everyone just
stop caring about the news and the country if Kamala
(24:46):
were to win, Like, what's going to happen? Because we
know all of you want information, care about the country,
and have you know, have the emotional fortitude to you know, yeah,
we would have been a bu of a week if
Kamala had won the election. We would have come back
here and said, all right, how do we how do
we you know, thwart the agenda? How do we get
(25:08):
ready for the next round? How do we save the country?
And this NBC it's like they're all taking their ball home.
No one can play, They're all crying about it.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
And the audience is finally bailing because I'm like probably
many of you who said, if you're constantly lied to,
I don't mean you disagree with somebody's opinion. Yeah, yeah,
the buck is totally wrong about the Beverly Hills cop movie,
Like it's actually pretty entertaining.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Just keep just keep digging that ditch to go. But
and by the way, the.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Caller the other day, anyone but you great recent romantic
comedy Glenn Powell, Sidney Switting.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
You might disagree with that.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
But if I came on and I said, hey, the
new Beverly Hills cop.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Movie or the new Anyone but You movie.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Made a billion dollars at the box office and is
the most successful movie of all time, and you listen
to me, and then you went and looked it up
and you.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Were like, wait, he's totally wrong about that.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
You should not trust me as much when you get
a fact wrong, not an opinion, because we can all
be wrong about what we expect to happen. For instance,
Buck went underground in the Great City of Atlantis on
Buck Island over whether Biden was going to remain as
the nominee.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
They still should have kept him. They still should have
kept him. I'm just telling you it was crazy what
they did. But keep going.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
And I swung and missed on. Surely they're not dumb
enough to actually elevate Kamala. I thought they would find
somebody more appealing than her. Right, those are opinions. It's
hard to predict the future. But if you get facts wrong,
and MSNBC got a lot of facts wrong, and they
just kept stacking them one after another. Eventually the audience
(26:51):
comes to distrust you. And I think that's actually the
story of MSNBC. Not only joy Read not interesting, not
very talented, but the platform che's on MSNBC. As you
heard Megan Kelly actually bring the data. The audience has
just vanished overnight, and the young audience in particular that.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Is twenty three. But there are more Democrats watching Fox
News every night now.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
They promised a result really as well, Yes, because they
went so all they abandoned all objectivity and decided that
they were all in on activism because it was so
worth it in this moment, because this was the last shot.
They're a little bit like a cult that was telling
us the world will end in twenty twenty four if
Donald Trump wins. Donald Trump won and the world didn't end, correct,
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some of the cult members wake up.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Or they go I thought I was going to be
in the space planet of the lizard people, and they're
all sad about it, you know, and they've got their
little special travel kit ready to go to the planet
they were promised they would elevate too. No, that doesn't
actually happen. I think that I mentioned before David Hogg
desperately in need of chalk. We should send I'm a
package of it. I think David Hogg speaking out about
(28:05):
the Biden mental claim. This guy's the vice DNC chair,
which is also remarkable. I mean, has neither ability, nor accomplishment,
nor wisdom, nor virtue nor bravery, don't even get me
started the whole thing. But here he is saying something
that is obviously true. Clay about your point with the lying,
and I think this even gets a little bit worse
than the lying. It takes it. But here's what David
Hogg had to say. He's the vice chair of the
(28:25):
DNC at sixteen.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Frankly, anybody that did speak out about that was immediately ostracized.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
In our party.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
They were right, And I know that we like to
claim that we're not a cult, but anybody who did
say that President Biden was too old basically had their
career destroyed. That's a problem. All the people who said like, no,
we're just gonna we're gonna keep doing all this stuff
to make sure that everything's good and we don't need
to talk about the president's age now they don't have
(28:52):
a job, right, What good does that do? But the
reality is if any single one of them spoke up
about it, they probably wouldn't have kept their job and
they would have been ostracized and effectively excommunicated from the party.
That is a huge problem. There are many lessons we
need to learn from the selection, but that is one
of the main ones that we have to learn is
that we cannot be.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
A cult that is one hundred percent accurate. That is
actually I will give him full credit and astute well.
I would say I shouldn't say a STU because it's obvious,
but a truthful observation from David Hogg. But here's clay
where I think it's a bigger problem for Democrats. They
humiliated their base too. The MSNBC audience not only was
promised and lied to, but the MSNBC audience feels humiliated
(29:33):
because they believed this garbage and now everyone can see
it's garbage. They believed Joe Scarborough when he said less
than a year ago that Biden is the sharpest he
has ever been in his eighty years of life. They
believed him. You can't humiliate your audience and get away
with it. I think that's true.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
I will say to David Hogg, if you followed up
and said, you know what, you're right, Democrat Party shouldn't
be a cult, so you definitely belie leave that men
who say they are women are not actually women, right,
And he'd be like, no, no, no, they're women. So he's
willing to say I think it's important here, Oh, Joe
(30:11):
Biden was not mentally and physically capable of being president.
Because Biden is now off the stage, he's not willing
to address the cult members on the things that the
cult still believes, which are, for instance, hey, men should
be able to play women's sports and be the best
female athlete on the planet. He wouldn't take the step
(30:31):
to actually speak truth to power. It's not brave to
say something that everybody in retrospect has decided is true.
It's brave to say something that is true when everybody
still hasn't decided it's true yet.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
I think that until you see the Democrats have the
moment of honesty about the whole trans thing that needs
to happen for them to be out of pure cult status,
they're just going to keep spinning their wheels. But they
they tried this when they had all the media at
their disposal, that they did and they had so much control,
(31:07):
and they had Facebook, and they had Twitter, and they
had all these things. They tried to make us all
celebrate the lie. And they can't do it anymore. And
I don't know how they walk it back without admitting
that the whole thing was a lie, a bit like
they did with Joe Biden, which you know that that
whole thing was such an embarrassment to their party, and
(31:28):
I think that the damage that it has done is
going to continue for a long time. Well, take some
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Speaker 3 (33:38):
I'm drinking my crocket coffee buck. I had a late
night and an early morning. I was watching White Lotus
season two sorry, season three episode.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
What do we think about that? First episode? I think
you might redeem yourself here. It was almost on the
It was a bad first episode. Second episode was good.
I watched it last night. I have no idea how
many of you watch. There have been three seasons.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
It's a murder mystery on HBO about privileged, rich people
who go away on vacation and you try to find
out who died.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
That's the story in essence. I'm glad the second because
Kerry and I had that one slated for this weekend.
But the first episode was trash, so at least you
recognize that Clay, there's hope for you. Read the first
episode was trash, So there we go.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
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Taste in film.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
He has sent us a message and here is what
he had to say.
Speaker 7 (34:52):
Hey guys, this is Jeff, a truck driver from Missouri.
I just wanted to say I took Clay's advice and
watched Axelf last night.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
I thought it was pretty good myself.
Speaker 7 (35:01):
I don't know what you were thinking, Buck, but hey,
you know everyone has their own taste.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Well there, Jeff, I love you, sir. You're a great
American and a patriot. But I think you're off. I
think you've hit the wrong interstate on this one. Maybe
uh maybe it cuts somebody off and uh they gotten
a little bit of a wreck. Because I think you're
you're off off the Mark on this one. I will
raise you listener Rick from Mississippi. This is talkback CC.
Speaker 7 (35:29):
Just have to say I disagree with Clayton and one
hundred percent agree with Buck at Beverly Hills cop the
new one was trash compared to the originals.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
I firston listener Rick, also in a truck. I think
you might have also been in a truck that we
have dueling truck drivers over whether Axelf was good or not.
And as I've always said, Missouri truck drivers far more
trustworthy the Mississippi truck drivers. I can't believe he's throwing
Mississippi truckers under the bus like this just for Axilouri.
Everybody knows Missouri truck drivers have great taste. Mississippi truck
(36:06):
drivers not so much. When we come back, we are
scheduled to be joined by our good friend Jim Jordan.
News coming out of the House Judiciary Committee over four
hundred thousand reported tax returns leaked. We'll dive into that also, Buck,
some good news out there for those of us who
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Speaker 3 (36:28):
And an update on the Philadelphia Eagles, your chosen Super
Bowl team, and what they are planning on all that
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