June 10, 2025 • 37 mins
Hour 1 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show dives deep into the escalating crisis in Los Angeles, where ongoing riots tied to illegal immigration enforcement have prompted the deployment of 700 U.S. Marines. Broadcasting from Washington, D.C., Clay and Buck analyze the stark contrast between the current administration under President Donald Trump and the response during the 2020 riots, emphasizing a firmer, law-and-order approach in Trump’s second term. The hosts explore how the Trump administration is handling the unrest with decisive federal action, contrasting it with the perceived failures of Democrat-led cities and states. They highlight the political and societal consequences of unchecked illegal immigration, including the strain on public services, the manipulation of congressional apportionment due to non-citizen counts, and the broader implications for national sovereignty and the rule of law. A major theme is the shift in conservative discourse from border wall rhetoric to a more urgent call for mass deportations and interior enforcement. Clay and Buck argue that the Biden-era influx of over 10 million illegal immigrants has created a de facto open border, with long-term consequences for American democracy and representation. The hour also features a live report from Steve Hilton, gubernatorial candidate in California, who provides on-the-ground insight into the destruction in Los Angeles. Hilton describes a total breakdown of law and order, with businesses—many owned by working-class Latinos—devastated by looting and arson. He criticizes California leadership, including Governor Gavin Newsom and Mayor Karen Bass, for prioritizing political pandering over public safety. The hosts also discuss the media’s portrayal of the riots, calling out CNN and others for downplaying the violence. They credit Elon Musk’s ownership of X (formerly Twitter) for enabling more transparent coverage of the events, undermining the “mostly peaceful protest” narrative. Additional topics include the historical context of the 1986 Reagan amnesty, the unique challenges posed by illegal immigration from Mexico, and the ideological roots of the current unrest, which Hilton links to decades of leftist indoctrination in education and politics. This hour sets the tone for a broader national conversation on immigration, law enforcement, and the future of American governance under President Trump’s leadership. It’s a must-listen for anyone following the intersection of immigration policy, civil unrest, and political accountability in 2025.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Welcome everybody.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
kicks off right now.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
We are here in our nation's.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Capital, probably the best it's been in a long time.
It is pretty spectacular.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
It's very beautiful.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Unlike during the inauguration, it is absolutely perfect weather here.
So I am not clearing the icicles from my nose
and my eyes this time. But we have a lot
to talk to you about, and we'll dive into some
of it. We're all so excited to be setting up
some pretty important interviews and sit downs and chats with
the people who make this town run and this White House,
(00:42):
which is doing a phenomenal job. I'm Clay, You're going
to have to make sure that I don't go over
too much of the territory when I was on a
flight yesterday that you cover with these LA riots. Here's
what I've got for the latest marines, seven hundred marines
order to assist in Los Angeles. They are expected to arrive, well,
(01:03):
they have been arriving. We've got Mayor Adams of New
York City saying that there are anti ice riots in
LA that would be totally unacceptable in New York. So
they're drawing a pretty hard line on that when you've
seen some other places Austin, Tampa where there are reports
of some gatherings beginning. We're very clear on this. I
(01:25):
think everyone's very clear on this. The right to protests
obviously protected under the First Amendment. The right to loot
a foot locker or a CVS or whatever is not
in fact covered under the First Amendment. And this whole
fight over illegal immigration enforcement is absolutely critical for the
administration and Clay I'm happy to see so far they
(01:48):
are taking the law and order perspective and not backing
down one inch, because this is setting a tone for
the rest of the.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Four years as well.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah, what I was talking about yesterday is I do
think this is a really concrete difference between Trump one
point zero and Trump two point zero. And you remember
very well everyone out there does. In the summer of
twenty twenty, the entire nation came unglued, and I think
a big part of that was Tim Walls, governor of Minnesota,
(02:18):
refusing to call out the National Guard in time to
bring peace to Minneapolis. And then what happened to Minneapolis.
Skyrocket had spiraled everywhere, and for many people it was
the end of the COVID restrictions, as you well remember,
because doctor Anthony Fauci suddenly came out after telling people
that they couldn't be in any groups at all, and said, well,
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hundreds of thousands of people can actually come out in
the streets in March. And many people said, wait a minute,
you were telling us that we couldn't go to kids
couldn't go to school, we couldn't have non essential remember
that phrase non essential business is open. And suddenly you
decide that everybody should be able to go out in
March in the summer of twenty twenty. And I think
(03:02):
in retrospect, Trump wishes that he had called out the
National Guard in Minnesota and tried to nip this in
the bud. And so I think this is Trump two
point zero saying we're not going to allow these protests
to flourish and take root like we did in twenty twenty. Also,
the difference being it's not an election year, which means
that whatever the impact is of the Trump response is
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not immediately going to the ballot box, which is why
I think they were apprehensive and I think quite frankly
slow on dealing with those riots back in twenty twenty.
So this is Trump saying I learned from the first term,
We're not.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Going to have this happen.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
That was one of the biggest mistakes I would argue
in the Trump first term was people often talk about
Fauci looked very hard in that moment to understand all
the implications of the CDC and allowing them to set
these policies. And I mean, I remember I spoke to
Trump in I've told you about this, I've talked to
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the audience about this, May of twenty twelve, talk to
you about all this, and he said, look, we're going
to leave this to the States. There was a lot
that was unknown then looting and rioting. We knew that
was bad, and there was a period where there was
not nearly a firm enough response in twenty twenty. I
think that that was a lesson learned for the administration.
I think this time around, they are showing that it's
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very easy to draw this line here. Yes, want you
want to gather lawfully and protests, that's great, that's America.
The moment you start blocking highways throwing rocks at cops,
breaking into store, stealing things. You are in violation of
a number of statutes, and the law still apply to you,
no matter how upset you are on this issue of
(04:41):
a legal immigration. It's interesting, Clay, I've seen a shift
in the conversation on the right from what about the
big beautiful bill to this is an all or nothing
issue meeting. We either enforced sovereignty and begin to deport
some of the ten million that Biden brought in, or
nothing else else matters. I agree with that. I think
(05:02):
if we don't establish secure borders and interior enforcement, we
just have a de facto open border. And all the
implications of this. I mean what you're seeing in southern California,
the massive expense that is born not just by the
taxpayers of California, but by the federal taxpayer as well.
There's all this money is that is funneled from federal
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dollars to medical which is like California's version of Medicare
medical Medicare medicaid rather medical. And the apportionment issue with
members of Congress, you have far more Democrat members of Congress,
and the estimates, I think it's a couple of dozen nationwide.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Seemed to twenty at least. And this is important.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I think I don't think a lot of audience even
understands this because I didn't know it. Illegal immigrants get
counted for purposes of congressional districts. So when you say
roughly seven hundred thousand people are being represented, if there
are twenty million illegals, that is helping Democrats because they're
overwhelmingly clustered in sanctuary cities, and otherwise there would be
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less Democrat representatives. Enormously important, and it also is a
reminder to everybody. As we'll talk, we'll go deep into
the law and order aspects of all this and why
it's so important that Trump is following through. The administration
has to see this through. This is just the beginning
of it too. But Clay, this is something what happens
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in Los Angeles. I think there had been an idea
that a lot of people had. Oh, that's not really
my problem. You know, I live in Nebraska. That's not
really my problem. I live in a nice red state.
You know, I live in South Carolina. And so if
California wants to have two or three, I'm sorry. Los
Angeles County alone wants to have two or three million
(06:52):
illegals in it. That's their problem. No, it's actually your
problem in South Carolina too. It's a problem for the
whole country. It's a problem because of the balance of
power that it is affected by with Congress. And it's
a problem because the whole point here that the Democrats
are pursuing is to make sure that there's a pathway
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to voting, not just citizenship voting for all the illegals
who have come here, which would make a day facto
one party state.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
So this is everybody's issue.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
The days where we would tell ourselves, oh, it's just
a blue state, red state thing, I think that has passed.
I think everyone understands. Biden let in ten million plus
illegals on purpose. People keep telling me, I don't know,
No one knows. No one knows. I mean, the administration
doesn't know this. One doesn't know what the full number
that came in under Biden is because it was so
out of control that it's impossible to tabulate.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
We just know that it's officially at least ten million.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
That's a massive state of illegals that have been added
to the US tally totally. I mean it's more than
the people who live in I think it's all but
like fifteen states. I mean, the population of the state
of Tennessee where I live, I believe is around seven million,
So more than the state of Tennessee has been let
in in four years, just in illegal And also keep
(08:08):
in mind there's now some focus on the Reagan Amnesty,
which I've talked about here in the show. Back in
nineteen eighty six, what happens probably the worst thing that
Reagan did as president. Unfortunately, Reagan did great things, defeated communism,
defeated the Soviet Union, but that was bad, and it
was much worse than I think anybody, even Republicans at
(08:30):
that time realized, because not only was the amnesty far larger.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Than it was supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
We're signing this law, right, this is back in nineteen
eighty six, and now we're going back now forty years.
We're signing this and we're gonna get border security. And
what you got was an amnesty several times larger, millions
of people, larger than what they thought it would be
because of the way the courts went, and you know,
everyone was trying to be covered under that amnesty. They
(08:59):
were hearing cha lenges I think into the early two thousands.
So think about that in nineteen eighty six embassy. There
are people in like nineteen ninety nine who are saying,
I'm covered under that too, And then it was a
massive incentive for more illegal immigration for the years and
years to come.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Can you think about it this time?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Right?
Speaker 1 (09:13):
If we just said, you know what, we'll take the
ten million who came under Biden, does any serious person
believe that there'd be the political will to stop the
next ten million from coming the next time there's a
Democrat administration. No, if anything, it would just become a
political inevitability. It would be codified that there'd be another
ten million coming, and our immigration laws are just a joke.
(09:33):
Well that's why whatever Trump does, they have set in
place two different, diametrically opposed systems. One is, if you come,
you are allowed in with virtually no court oversight. It's
going to take years for your hearings, and in the
meantime you get to live here. And the second part
is if you're trying to deport, you have to have
(09:55):
massive court hearings and it's going to take a substantial
amount of f effort, to get that done. So I
think they are gaming the system because they're applying two
different rules. Let me also mention this too, as the
La riot continues four days and we see the Apple
stores getting rioted, and unfortunately I saw a jewelry store
owner interviewed. And we'll play some of that for you
(10:17):
throughout the course of the program, in fact to twelve thirty.
So in about twenty minutes from now, we're going to
talk with Steve Hilton, who's running for governor. He was
out on the streets of Los Angeles last night what
he sees and is experiencing there, what he saw with
his own eyes.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I think that this is another.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Impact of Elon Musk buying Twitter, because when Maxine Waters
and other Democrats are coming out, I saw another Democrat
congresswoman say, well, this is not much different than a
sports celebration when a team.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Wins a title.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
And then you juxtaposed those videos side by side. It
is we talked about yesterday. I want to get your
read on this at some point. But when you've got
cops with cars burning and you've got the video of
the bricks being thrown at them, it's hard to argue
it's a mostly peaceful protest. I think that the fairness
of X to allow the full scope of what's truly
(11:07):
going on to be seen makes the lies more readily apparent.
Also the videos and the photos which I was consuming
just as you were all weekend long and yesterday on
the flight up here, as I was doing research for
today's show, Clay the notion that you would, as a
person who claims to have a right to be in America,
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you would be standing around burning cars and holding holding
up the flag of a foreign nation. That is a
person who does not belong here, who does not deserve
to be here. And I'm not even getting into the
legal status that they may or may not have, but
you clearly do not have the kind of love and
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allegiance for this country and for the rule of law
that we want for the American people. It is also shown,
and we'll get into this, the data very clearly so
far supports.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
What Trump is doing.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
As a matter of public opinion, let me say, if
there was eighty twenty against Trump on this, I don't care.
This is a rule of law issue, but it's not.
In fact, Trump is operating with a majority support of
the American people and the more of this that we see,
the burning cars, the rioting, the looting, the madness on
the streets and people waving Mexican flags and saying, I'm
(12:27):
so American. I would wave a Mexican flag. Could you imagine?
I mean, if I stood in front of a building
that was burning in New York City waving an Irish flag,
first of all, the Irish people be like, you haven't
been Irish in hundreds of years. And second of all,
they'd say, what are you doing that has nothing to
do with us. There's something deeper here, and specifically in
southern California, this.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Is very this is a very precarious.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Issue because you're talking about a group of people who,
unlike any other migrant group, really the only migrant group
we have here in large numbers that have come here
illegally that can walk back home and sometimes do drive
and go back home are people from Mexico. This is
not true if people from from Europe, from Africa, from
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anywhere else. And so there's something unique and uniquely destabilizing
about individuals who think that they can have it both ways.
They can maintain this separate Mexican identity while getting all
the benefits of being in America and make demands in
this country while actually having citizenship in another country that
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is right next door. This is something that anybody who's
looking at the national security and political implications for this
country has to reckon with that. In southern California there
is a and I know that this exists in some
other places too. Different in Texas because it's a red state,
but in southern California there is Look, you can see
this with people going on CNN saying, well, you know
(13:58):
this was part of Mexico. You say, hold on a second,
this is part This was part of Mexican.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
It was part of Mexico for like fifteen years or something,
and it's been part of America for a couple of hundred.
It was a Spanish colony, okay, and the Spaniards aren't
dancing around saying, hey, this is actually still ours.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
So it was Mexican.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
For a short while, and then they lost that territory
in a war, which is a thing that happens, you know.
That's something that they need to just get used to.
So there's a lot going on here that I want
to continue to dive into. And Clay, I think this
most important fight in the country right now, and I
think it's more important than concerns about the debt. If
we lose on this, we lose on everything else. If
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We're gonna go to the streets of Los Angeles with
Steve Hilton here at the bottom of the hour coming up.
But I did want to play a couple of the
cuts that we referenced in the open there, because I
do think it's emblematic of just how dishonest much of
the media coverage of these La riots has been. And
I know many of you are listening to us right
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now out in the Los Angeles area.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
This is Marina Salinas. On CNN.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Buck mentioned this defending the rioting by saying, well, remember
California was part of Mexico, and all of the southwest
is actually Mexico. I can't believe this happened, but this
was CNN. Listen to it. Cut seven.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
I'm from LA, I was born in LA That's where
my roots are, That's where I started my career. It
is almost fifty percent Hispanic. Remember that California was part
of Mexico. All of the Southwest is Mexico, so the
roots are really deep in that region. And what they're
saying is no, not in our community, because when they're
coming in, even though there's second, third, fourth, fifth, generation
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Latinos that live there. In Mexican Americans that live there,
some of them might be their family members, the people
that they're going after. It's personal for them because they're
going after their cussin and their cussin and their uncle
and their all right.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
We'll get into that in a second. Look here in Washington, DC,
there's a lot going on all at once. Certainly feels
like there's so much happening. And one of the initiatives
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(18:22):
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Speaker 2 (18:59):
We got Steve Hilton with us.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Do you all know him from his time at Fox News.
He's running for governor of California, which is a job
that needs somebody much more competent in the role than
what they currently have. That is for sure. He is
in La right now, Steve, thanks for being with us.
Are you out on the street. I know you've seen
a lot. Just trying to give everybody a picture of
where you are. So you're out on the streets in LA.
(19:22):
Bring us up to what you have seen up to
this point, what the reality has been on the ground.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
So, I mean, I've just popped indoors, so it's not
so loud. The thing is very clear. It is a
total breakdown of law and order and civilized life and civilization.
It is just absolutely shocking to see what's been going
on here. The smashed up businesses, most of them by
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the way, owned by working class Latinos whose lives are now.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Being completely wrecked and not going to get insurance.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
No one cares about that, and Newston doesn't care, Karen
Bas doesn't care.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
They care about this pandering to their far left activists.
So you've got the sort of total lack of care.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
About people's lives being destroyed. But in a way, the
most shocking thing. And I put out a video of
this just last night. I was walking around after they'd
cleared the main riot scene and dispersed the crowd somewhat,
and you saw the aftermath, every single surface covered in vile,
disgusting graffiti, and there's something so shocking about the stale
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of it. Literally everywhere you look. F Trump, by the way.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
F Israel a lot, So like, what's that got to
do with anything that's going on here?
Speaker 6 (20:39):
That tells you the kind of people we're dealing with.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Here, And it's just this collapse of.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
Standards of civilized behavior. You know perfectly well that not
a single person who did this will be held accountable
by California authorities, will be prosecuted. All of these things
are crimes. I've spoken to DA's and.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Sheriffs very clear that what we've.
Speaker 6 (20:58):
Seen happening here they're felonies. Is anyone going to be
prosecuted or held accountable. No, not by California authorities. And
so this is why we need to turn this around.
This is a real moment, I think for everyone in
California to realize we've got to go in a different direction.
We cannot have this weakness and pandering to political activists
instead of standing up for the decent, law abiding majority.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Western Steve, I appreciate you coming on, and certainly if
I were in California, you'd have my vote next year.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
But when you see so many people.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Running around waving flags of foreign countries while they are
burning down WAYMO vehicles, or when they are raining down
molotov cocktails onto police vehicles, what does it say not
only about the United States and California, but also you've
come from England, where this is a global struggle for
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the legitimacy. It seems to me of Western civilization. What
you see here is happening in London, It's happening in Paris,
it's happening in Rome. There is when many ways, I think,
can attack on the entirety of Western civilization and values.
Do you sense that people in California feel.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
That, Yes, but they don't even know it. This is
the thing, because it's now the product of years and years,
decades really of of creeping in doctrination in this ideology,
I mean, whatever you want to call it, wokeismo with
a whole sort of peace on it. On my Fox
show we probably discussed it Clay, you know, yeah, sure,
(22:33):
one hundred one hundred years ago, and the Frankfurt School
in Germany, the Marxist philosophers and all out war on
the institutions of a civilized Western society, the family faith,
all of those things. So this is that this has
been part of a long burning plan, and I think
because it's now so commonplace throughout started obviously in academia,
but now throughout the public school system and so on,
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they're not even aware that this is what they're spouting
and that these values are what upholding even if you
can call them values. I mean, it's just it's a
very serious situation. But the good news is that we're
confronting it finally, that we're standing up against it here
in America. That's not happening in England, it's not happening
anywhere health and so that is really encouraging. And just
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as you see these appalling scenes, and I completely agree
with that.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
It's so shocking.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
I put that in one of my videos. Yes, I
was walking around in the daytime, in the in the
in the in the in the protest zone, Mexican flags,
other Latin American flags flying. The best I could find
was one young guy on the roof of his car waving.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
It was fifty to fifty.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
It was the Mexican flag on one side, the stars
and stripes on the other. That was the best I
could find.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
I had. I taped a little interview with him. I'll
be putting out later today.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
Nice kid, but completely unaware of, you know, the sort
of background to this leftist indoctrination.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
But as I say, look at what's.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
Happening to fight back against it.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Look at the success of you know, you've.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
Meant you know that the turning point for example, and
the youth vote in the last election. You know, we're
not letting this go unchallenged.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Steve, It's been amazing and kind of horrifying at the
same time to see some of what these Democrat leaders,
from the Governor Gavenussom down to Mayor Bass of Los
Angeles and other officials as well. Their responses to this
range from the outrageous to the entirely incoherent.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
You have.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
On the one hand, they'll say things like don't be violent.
That plays into Trump's hands.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
I think they should be opposed to political violence and
assaults on officers and destruction of property, regardless of what
that will do to the poll numbers. And then beyond that,
it's completely unclear what their objection is, or rather, I
should say, I think it is clear that their objection
is not to anything other than the enforcement of American
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immigration laws. There's no claim that federal authorities have done
something that is not lawful. They just are saying, whether
it's the mayor, the governor others, we don't like the
enforcement of federal law.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
No.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
And you know what was completely right. And the thing
that really illustrated that was the almost, you know, like
like revoltingly predictable way that when the first news broke
of these enforcement actions, one by one up popped on
social media the pandering statements from everybody in charge.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
In Los Angeles. I use that word advisorly.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
Of course they're not really in charge, but one after
another up popped the statement saying we at this time
we're thinking of our community.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
All this glader pandering to the activist left.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
And it was the mayor, which is totally predictable, and
it was the governor, which was totally predictable. But shockingly
and disturbingly, it was also the police chief and the DA,
every single person in authority in California putting out pandering
statements instead of saying very clearly, if you break the law,
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you will be prosecuted and we will hold you accountable
and we will not tolerate lawlessness and disorder. That nobody
said anything like that. It was all pandering to the left.
And that tells you the rot that's gone on for
so long in California. And that's what we need to change.
And the majority of people understand now what's really going
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on here that we have people who are, as I say,
not really in charge with the people at the top,
who have no interest in protecting the interests of the
majority of regular working people who are just being let
down all the time by this far left ideology.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Steve, this is not standing alone either. January thirty first,
I think it took several weeks you'll know better than me,
to put out the fires that were burning all over
life Los Angeles. I'm not an expert in arson, but
thankfully lighting things on fire intentionally in Los Angeles seems
like a bad idea given the history that we just
(27:10):
went through. But also to me, there's a connecting thread here,
and it is of Mayor Karen Bass and also Governor
Gavin Newsom being unable to make rational, reasonable decisions for
the people of Los Angeles and the people of California.
Buck and I have talked about this a lot. Buck
lived through it. In New York City, things got so
bad that people finally said, we need law and order,
(27:32):
we need Rudy Giuliani, Mayor Bloomberg. They fixed New York
City in many ways, and they had to do it
from an outsider perspective. Do you think that's what you
could bring and our Californians? Are things getting bad enough
where Californians say, we can't keep doing the same one
party decision making.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Yes, that is one hundred percent the central argument. We
can't that I make it. We cannot go on.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
Like this, And you can look at it's all of
the piece the fire of course that were and there's
a similar pattern here, right, which is that the extremist
policies caused the problem.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
So with the.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
Fires, it was the environmental extremism that meant that you
have this tinderbox situation. They didn't clear the brush, they
didn't do anything. You've got residents refined for protecting their
own property by clearing the brush. So they have the
extremist policies that caused the problem, and then their response
to the problem is totally incompetent, and then they just
lash around blaming someone else. Similar pattern here, it was
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their extremest policies that caused this problem. The sanct You remember,
it's the sanctuary state policies that caused this whole situation
because there's no cooperation with federal immigration enforcement and law enforcement,
which means that these kinds of enforcement actions are necessary.
You don't see this in other states where you've got
cooperation between the FEDS and state and local authorities. So
they caused the problem in the first place, their response
(28:52):
is completely incompetent and inadequate, and then they blame someone else,
in this case obviously Trump. But there's another point I
want to make, which is which is about the pattern.
Just a couple of weekends ago in Los Angeles, you
sought very similar scenes to what we've just witnessed this week,
last past few days, on a smaller.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Scale, you had an illegal.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
Party, a roof party that got out of control the
warehouse building, hundreds of people spilling out into the local community,
marauding around, smashing up businesses, vandalism everywhere, literally setting cars
on fire. They commandeered a police car, jumping all over it, grafiting.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
The police car. What did the LAPD do? Nothing?
Speaker 6 (29:31):
Literally nothing, They stood back and just watched while all
this happened. There was not a single arrest. That's what's
the problem here. You have people who will not enforce
the law and uphold standards of civilized behavior, which is
the first responsibility of people in government. And that message
I'm drumming home loud and clear, and I think there
really will be changed in California in twenty twenty six
(29:53):
because we cannot go on like this.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Steve real quick before we go. Is it dying down
or is there a concern here that this could continue
or maybe even worsen.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
I think it is, and I think the president is
dying down, and that's good to see. And I think
it's the direct result of the President's tough response, because
I mean everywhere you.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Goes the National Guard holding the line, and so I
think that that has clearly made a difference.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
And last night was better than the weekend, and you know,
let's hope tonight is better. It's early morning here still,
so there's not nothing going on particularly, but I think
that it looks like things are getting more under control,
and of course that's something we welcome. But it's exactly
I think thanks to the tough federal response, which of
course all the politicians.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Here that's there. I mean, for goodness sake, the.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
Government of California spending most of his time yesterday, you know,
posting on X you know, anti Trump, trolling things and
filing lawsuits.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
It's protect madness madness.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Yeah, apparently he has neither read nor understood the Content Institution, Steve,
but that's not news.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
We're aware of that one.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Steve Hilton, what is your site for the governor's.
Speaker 6 (31:05):
Race, Steve Hilton for Governor dot com fo or Steve
hiltonext governor dot com.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Well, we encourage everybody in California who wants things to
change to go to Steve Hilton for California dot com.
Keep up the good work and sorry yeah for governor
and stay safe out there.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Fantastic great to read you guys, thanks.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
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We're talking about the situation in LA on the streets,
and thanks to Steve Hilton, who's out on the streets
of Los Angeles, and we took a bunch of your
calls yesterday from Los Angeles. And I do think the
argument that this is not a significant issue because of
Elon's purchase actually has made it much more difficult to
(32:54):
argue that there isn't something going on of a substantial.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Well, just think think of it this way.
Speaker 6 (32:59):
Cley.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
The days of the original BLM one point oh, which
I think was the first time we saw these piece.
These protests are fiery, but mostly peaceful. Yes, I think
that was Ferguson, right, and the early that was b
ON one point oh, and then George Floyd was BLM
two point oh. You can't do that anymore because CNN
(33:21):
and these other entities, including social media platforms, don't have
stranglehold over what information will be shared. So now if
you're CNN and you pull something, you're saying, oh, look
at this, look at this peaceful group, and some people
were doing this. Everyone says, Okay, well look at these
way moos on fire, look at these stores being looted,
look at this crazy stuff going on. I'm just gonna
say that. Steve Hilton just talk to us, and he's
(33:42):
obviously there. He says, this is dying down. It's dying
down because politically they are losing as much as I
think it is. The National Guard being deployed, you shoot,
national Guard is holding it in check, but they're not
continuing the same way because this is hurting the left.
Now there is any expected nationwide protest on June fourteenth
(34:04):
that is being set up. I was reading about this morning,
so I think LA has been a test case scenario
for them for what they can accomplish. But I wanted
to play this because Maxine Waters said there's no violence
in LA. I'm gonna call for this in a sec
But remember Gavin Newsom tried to share a burning police
(34:25):
car that one of that had been shared and was
going viral on social media, and he said, this is
not twenty twenty five, it's twenty twenty. He was also
governor in twenty twenty. But within a few hours there
were burning police cars also in twenty twenty five, and
what they're trying to do is say there's no violence
(34:46):
out there. And unfortunately, you have a choice. You can
believe what you actually see, or you can listen to
Congresswoman Maxine Waters cut Ten saying there's no violence in LA.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Don't believe what you saw. Listen to this.
Speaker 7 (35:00):
Even those who were out of step with what we
are advocating peaceful protest did not create any violence. Nobody
was shot, nobody was killed.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Get it in your head.
Speaker 7 (35:11):
And so when martial law is called, what are you
gonna say, I missed the pont. Don't miss the punt.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
You all don't think.
Speaker 7 (35:19):
That somehow because they called out the National Guard there
was violence. There was no violence. I was on the street,
I know, and I went from downtown detention back out
into the community talking to people. What happened in Paramount,
what happened in Compton, what happened in Inglewood. So first
of all, get it straight and don't just rely on
(35:41):
what you're being told. Are the few incidents that you saw?
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Okay, the police are legitimately having rocks poured onto them.
Their cars are being lit on fire, the waymos are
on fire. I love these waymos book. This is the
autonomous vehicles up in San Francisco. They're basically having to
shut them down. The wise of this is not actually
happening is turning into a really I think you're right,
(36:08):
political detrimental moment for Demos.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Well, the mood of.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
The country on this issue is something that Democrats completely
misjudged in the last election, and they continue to misjudge
it because we've seen enough ten million illegals under Biden.
The whole thing was a scam. People abusing the generosity
and the kindness of everyday Americans, taking advantage of our system,
(36:34):
clogging our emergency rooms, clogging our schools, and with English
as a second language, instruction costs skyrocketing and all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Americans are tired of this.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
And if you're going to say the rule of law
means I have to pay my taxes, the rule of
law means these illegals have got to go.
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Welcome everybody.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
kicks off right now.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
We are here in our nation's.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Capital, probably the best it's been in a long time.
It is pretty spectacular.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
It's very beautiful.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Unlike during the inauguration, it is absolutely perfect weather here.
So I am not clearing the icicles from my nose
and my eyes this time. But we have a lot
to talk to you about, and we'll dive into some
of it. We're all so excited to be setting up
some pretty important interviews and sit downs and chats with
the people who make this town run and this White House,
(00:42):
which is doing a phenomenal job. I'm Clay, You're going
to have to make sure that I don't go over
too much of the territory when I was on a
flight yesterday that you cover with these LA riots. Here's
what I've got for the latest marines, seven hundred marines
order to assist in Los Angeles. They are expected to arrive, well,
(01:03):
they have been arriving. We've got Mayor Adams of New
York City saying that there are anti ice riots in
LA that would be totally unacceptable in New York. So
they're drawing a pretty hard line on that when you've
seen some other places Austin, Tampa where there are reports
of some gatherings beginning. We're very clear on this. I
(01:25):
think everyone's very clear on this. The right to protests
obviously protected under the First Amendment. The right to loot
a foot locker or a CVS or whatever is not
in fact covered under the First Amendment. And this whole
fight over illegal immigration enforcement is absolutely critical for the
administration and Clay I'm happy to see so far they
(01:48):
are taking the law and order perspective and not backing
down one inch, because this is setting a tone for
the rest of the.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Four years as well.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah, what I was talking about yesterday is I do
think this is a really concrete difference between Trump one
point zero and Trump two point zero. And you remember
very well everyone out there does. In the summer of
twenty twenty, the entire nation came unglued, and I think
a big part of that was Tim Walls, governor of Minnesota,
(02:18):
refusing to call out the National Guard in time to
bring peace to Minneapolis. And then what happened to Minneapolis.
Skyrocket had spiraled everywhere, and for many people it was
the end of the COVID restrictions, as you well remember,
because doctor Anthony Fauci suddenly came out after telling people
that they couldn't be in any groups at all, and said, well,
(02:40):
hundreds of thousands of people can actually come out in
the streets in March. And many people said, wait a minute,
you were telling us that we couldn't go to kids
couldn't go to school, we couldn't have non essential remember
that phrase non essential business is open. And suddenly you
decide that everybody should be able to go out in
March in the summer of twenty twenty. And I think
(03:02):
in retrospect, Trump wishes that he had called out the
National Guard in Minnesota and tried to nip this in
the bud. And so I think this is Trump two
point zero saying we're not going to allow these protests
to flourish and take root like we did in twenty twenty. Also,
the difference being it's not an election year, which means
that whatever the impact is of the Trump response is
(03:25):
not immediately going to the ballot box, which is why
I think they were apprehensive and I think quite frankly
slow on dealing with those riots back in twenty twenty.
So this is Trump saying I learned from the first term,
We're not.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Going to have this happen.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
That was one of the biggest mistakes I would argue
in the Trump first term was people often talk about
Fauci looked very hard in that moment to understand all
the implications of the CDC and allowing them to set
these policies. And I mean, I remember I spoke to
Trump in I've told you about this, I've talked to
(03:58):
the audience about this, May of twenty twelve, talk to
you about all this, and he said, look, we're going
to leave this to the States. There was a lot
that was unknown then looting and rioting. We knew that
was bad, and there was a period where there was
not nearly a firm enough response in twenty twenty. I
think that that was a lesson learned for the administration.
I think this time around, they are showing that it's
(04:21):
very easy to draw this line here. Yes, want you
want to gather lawfully and protests, that's great, that's America.
The moment you start blocking highways throwing rocks at cops,
breaking into store, stealing things. You are in violation of
a number of statutes, and the law still apply to you,
no matter how upset you are on this issue of
(04:41):
a legal immigration. It's interesting, Clay, I've seen a shift
in the conversation on the right from what about the
big beautiful bill to this is an all or nothing
issue meeting. We either enforced sovereignty and begin to deport
some of the ten million that Biden brought in, or
nothing else else matters. I agree with that. I think
(05:02):
if we don't establish secure borders and interior enforcement, we
just have a de facto open border. And all the
implications of this. I mean what you're seeing in southern California,
the massive expense that is born not just by the
taxpayers of California, but by the federal taxpayer as well.
There's all this money is that is funneled from federal
(05:26):
dollars to medical which is like California's version of Medicare
medical Medicare medicaid rather medical. And the apportionment issue with
members of Congress, you have far more Democrat members of Congress,
and the estimates, I think it's a couple of dozen nationwide.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Seemed to twenty at least. And this is important.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I think I don't think a lot of audience even
understands this because I didn't know it. Illegal immigrants get
counted for purposes of congressional districts. So when you say
roughly seven hundred thousand people are being represented, if there
are twenty million illegals, that is helping Democrats because they're
overwhelmingly clustered in sanctuary cities, and otherwise there would be
(06:09):
less Democrat representatives. Enormously important, and it also is a
reminder to everybody. As we'll talk, we'll go deep into
the law and order aspects of all this and why
it's so important that Trump is following through. The administration
has to see this through. This is just the beginning
of it too. But Clay, this is something what happens
(06:30):
in Los Angeles. I think there had been an idea
that a lot of people had. Oh, that's not really
my problem. You know, I live in Nebraska. That's not
really my problem. I live in a nice red state.
You know, I live in South Carolina. And so if
California wants to have two or three, I'm sorry. Los
Angeles County alone wants to have two or three million
(06:52):
illegals in it. That's their problem. No, it's actually your
problem in South Carolina too. It's a problem for the
whole country. It's a problem because of the balance of
power that it is affected by with Congress. And it's
a problem because the whole point here that the Democrats
are pursuing is to make sure that there's a pathway
(07:13):
to voting, not just citizenship voting for all the illegals
who have come here, which would make a day facto
one party state.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
So this is everybody's issue.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
The days where we would tell ourselves, oh, it's just
a blue state, red state thing, I think that has passed.
I think everyone understands. Biden let in ten million plus
illegals on purpose. People keep telling me, I don't know,
No one knows. No one knows. I mean, the administration
doesn't know this. One doesn't know what the full number
that came in under Biden is because it was so
out of control that it's impossible to tabulate.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
We just know that it's officially at least ten million.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
That's a massive state of illegals that have been added
to the US tally totally. I mean it's more than
the people who live in I think it's all but
like fifteen states. I mean, the population of the state
of Tennessee where I live, I believe is around seven million,
So more than the state of Tennessee has been let
in in four years, just in illegal And also keep
(08:08):
in mind there's now some focus on the Reagan Amnesty,
which I've talked about here in the show. Back in
nineteen eighty six, what happens probably the worst thing that
Reagan did as president. Unfortunately, Reagan did great things, defeated communism,
defeated the Soviet Union, but that was bad, and it
was much worse than I think anybody, even Republicans at
(08:30):
that time realized, because not only was the amnesty far larger.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Than it was supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
We're signing this law, right, this is back in nineteen
eighty six, and now we're going back now forty years.
We're signing this and we're gonna get border security. And
what you got was an amnesty several times larger, millions
of people, larger than what they thought it would be
because of the way the courts went, and you know,
everyone was trying to be covered under that amnesty. They
(08:59):
were hearing cha lenges I think into the early two thousands.
So think about that in nineteen eighty six embassy. There
are people in like nineteen ninety nine who are saying,
I'm covered under that too, And then it was a
massive incentive for more illegal immigration for the years and
years to come.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Can you think about it this time?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Right?
Speaker 1 (09:13):
If we just said, you know what, we'll take the
ten million who came under Biden, does any serious person
believe that there'd be the political will to stop the
next ten million from coming the next time there's a
Democrat administration. No, if anything, it would just become a
political inevitability. It would be codified that there'd be another
ten million coming, and our immigration laws are just a joke.
(09:33):
Well that's why whatever Trump does, they have set in
place two different, diametrically opposed systems. One is, if you come,
you are allowed in with virtually no court oversight. It's
going to take years for your hearings, and in the
meantime you get to live here. And the second part
is if you're trying to deport, you have to have
(09:55):
massive court hearings and it's going to take a substantial
amount of f effort, to get that done. So I
think they are gaming the system because they're applying two
different rules. Let me also mention this too, as the
La riot continues four days and we see the Apple
stores getting rioted, and unfortunately I saw a jewelry store
owner interviewed. And we'll play some of that for you
(10:17):
throughout the course of the program, in fact to twelve thirty.
So in about twenty minutes from now, we're going to
talk with Steve Hilton, who's running for governor. He was
out on the streets of Los Angeles last night what
he sees and is experiencing there, what he saw with
his own eyes.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I think that this is another.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Impact of Elon Musk buying Twitter, because when Maxine Waters
and other Democrats are coming out, I saw another Democrat
congresswoman say, well, this is not much different than a
sports celebration when a team.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Wins a title.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
And then you juxtaposed those videos side by side. It
is we talked about yesterday. I want to get your
read on this at some point. But when you've got
cops with cars burning and you've got the video of
the bricks being thrown at them, it's hard to argue
it's a mostly peaceful protest. I think that the fairness
of X to allow the full scope of what's truly
(11:07):
going on to be seen makes the lies more readily apparent.
Also the videos and the photos which I was consuming
just as you were all weekend long and yesterday on
the flight up here, as I was doing research for
today's show, Clay the notion that you would, as a
person who claims to have a right to be in America,
(11:29):
you would be standing around burning cars and holding holding
up the flag of a foreign nation. That is a
person who does not belong here, who does not deserve
to be here. And I'm not even getting into the
legal status that they may or may not have, but
you clearly do not have the kind of love and
(11:51):
allegiance for this country and for the rule of law
that we want for the American people. It is also shown,
and we'll get into this, the data very clearly so
far supports.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
What Trump is doing.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
As a matter of public opinion, let me say, if
there was eighty twenty against Trump on this, I don't care.
This is a rule of law issue, but it's not.
In fact, Trump is operating with a majority support of
the American people and the more of this that we see,
the burning cars, the rioting, the looting, the madness on
the streets and people waving Mexican flags and saying, I'm
(12:27):
so American. I would wave a Mexican flag. Could you imagine?
I mean, if I stood in front of a building
that was burning in New York City waving an Irish flag,
first of all, the Irish people be like, you haven't
been Irish in hundreds of years. And second of all,
they'd say, what are you doing that has nothing to
do with us. There's something deeper here, and specifically in
southern California, this.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Is very this is a very precarious.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Issue because you're talking about a group of people who,
unlike any other migrant group, really the only migrant group
we have here in large numbers that have come here
illegally that can walk back home and sometimes do drive
and go back home are people from Mexico. This is
not true if people from from Europe, from Africa, from
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anywhere else. And so there's something unique and uniquely destabilizing
about individuals who think that they can have it both ways.
They can maintain this separate Mexican identity while getting all
the benefits of being in America and make demands in
this country while actually having citizenship in another country that
(13:36):
is right next door. This is something that anybody who's
looking at the national security and political implications for this
country has to reckon with that. In southern California there
is a and I know that this exists in some
other places too. Different in Texas because it's a red state,
but in southern California there is Look, you can see
this with people going on CNN saying, well, you know
(13:58):
this was part of Mexico. You say, hold on a second,
this is part This was part of Mexican.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
It was part of Mexico for like fifteen years or something,
and it's been part of America for a couple of hundred.
It was a Spanish colony, okay, and the Spaniards aren't
dancing around saying, hey, this is actually still ours.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
So it was Mexican.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
For a short while, and then they lost that territory
in a war, which is a thing that happens, you know.
That's something that they need to just get used to.
So there's a lot going on here that I want
to continue to dive into. And Clay, I think this
most important fight in the country right now, and I
think it's more important than concerns about the debt. If
we lose on this, we lose on everything else. If
(14:39):
we don't have a country with sovereignty and rule of
law and immigration, we don't really have a country. And
I think that's what people are seeing on the streets
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We're gonna go to the streets of Los Angeles with
Steve Hilton here at the bottom of the hour coming up.
But I did want to play a couple of the
cuts that we referenced in the open there, because I
do think it's emblematic of just how dishonest much of
the media coverage of these La riots has been. And
I know many of you are listening to us right
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now out in the Los Angeles area.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
This is Marina Salinas. On CNN.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Buck mentioned this defending the rioting by saying, well, remember
California was part of Mexico, and all of the southwest
is actually Mexico. I can't believe this happened, but this
was CNN. Listen to it. Cut seven.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
I'm from LA, I was born in LA That's where
my roots are, That's where I started my career. It
is almost fifty percent Hispanic. Remember that California was part
of Mexico. All of the Southwest is Mexico, so the
roots are really deep in that region. And what they're
saying is no, not in our community, because when they're
coming in, even though there's second, third, fourth, fifth, generation
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Latinos that live there. In Mexican Americans that live there,
some of them might be their family members, the people
that they're going after. It's personal for them because they're
going after their cussin and their cussin and their uncle
and their all right.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
We'll get into that in a second. Look here in Washington, DC,
there's a lot going on all at once. Certainly feels
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Speaker 2 (18:59):
We got Steve Hilton with us.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Do you all know him from his time at Fox News.
He's running for governor of California, which is a job
that needs somebody much more competent in the role than
what they currently have. That is for sure. He is
in La right now, Steve, thanks for being with us.
Are you out on the street. I know you've seen
a lot. Just trying to give everybody a picture of
where you are. So you're out on the streets in LA.
(19:22):
Bring us up to what you have seen up to
this point, what the reality has been on the ground.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
So, I mean, I've just popped indoors, so it's not
so loud. The thing is very clear. It is a
total breakdown of law and order and civilized life and civilization.
It is just absolutely shocking to see what's been going
on here. The smashed up businesses, most of them by
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the way, owned by working class Latinos whose lives are now.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Being completely wrecked and not going to get insurance.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
No one cares about that, and Newston doesn't care, Karen
Bas doesn't care.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
They care about this pandering to their far left activists.
So you've got the sort of total lack of care.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
About people's lives being destroyed. But in a way, the
most shocking thing. And I put out a video of
this just last night. I was walking around after they'd
cleared the main riot scene and dispersed the crowd somewhat,
and you saw the aftermath, every single surface covered in vile,
disgusting graffiti, and there's something so shocking about the stale
(20:29):
of it. Literally everywhere you look. F Trump, by the way.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
F Israel a lot, So like, what's that got to
do with anything that's going on here?
Speaker 6 (20:39):
That tells you the kind of people we're dealing with.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Here, And it's just this collapse of.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
Standards of civilized behavior. You know perfectly well that not
a single person who did this will be held accountable
by California authorities, will be prosecuted. All of these things
are crimes. I've spoken to DA's and.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Sheriffs very clear that what we've.
Speaker 6 (20:58):
Seen happening here they're felonies. Is anyone going to be
prosecuted or held accountable. No, not by California authorities. And
so this is why we need to turn this around.
This is a real moment, I think for everyone in
California to realize we've got to go in a different direction.
We cannot have this weakness and pandering to political activists
instead of standing up for the decent, law abiding majority.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Western Steve, I appreciate you coming on, and certainly if
I were in California, you'd have my vote next year.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
But when you see so many people.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Running around waving flags of foreign countries while they are
burning down WAYMO vehicles, or when they are raining down
molotov cocktails onto police vehicles, what does it say not
only about the United States and California, but also you've
come from England, where this is a global struggle for
(21:53):
the legitimacy. It seems to me of Western civilization. What
you see here is happening in London, It's happening in Paris,
it's happening in Rome. There is when many ways, I think,
can attack on the entirety of Western civilization and values.
Do you sense that people in California feel.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
That, Yes, but they don't even know it. This is
the thing, because it's now the product of years and years,
decades really of of creeping in doctrination in this ideology,
I mean, whatever you want to call it, wokeismo with
a whole sort of peace on it. On my Fox
show we probably discussed it Clay, you know, yeah, sure,
(22:33):
one hundred one hundred years ago, and the Frankfurt School
in Germany, the Marxist philosophers and all out war on
the institutions of a civilized Western society, the family faith,
all of those things. So this is that this has
been part of a long burning plan, and I think
because it's now so commonplace throughout started obviously in academia,
but now throughout the public school system and so on,
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they're not even aware that this is what they're spouting
and that these values are what upholding even if you
can call them values. I mean, it's just it's a
very serious situation. But the good news is that we're
confronting it finally, that we're standing up against it here
in America. That's not happening in England, it's not happening
anywhere health and so that is really encouraging. And just
(23:17):
as you see these appalling scenes, and I completely agree
with that.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
It's so shocking.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
I put that in one of my videos. Yes, I
was walking around in the daytime, in the in the
in the in the in the protest zone, Mexican flags,
other Latin American flags flying. The best I could find
was one young guy on the roof of his car waving.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
It was fifty to fifty.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
It was the Mexican flag on one side, the stars
and stripes on the other. That was the best I
could find.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
I had. I taped a little interview with him. I'll
be putting out later today.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
Nice kid, but completely unaware of, you know, the sort
of background to this leftist indoctrination.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
But as I say, look at what's.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
Happening to fight back against it.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Look at the success of you know, you've.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
Meant you know that the turning point for example, and
the youth vote in the last election. You know, we're
not letting this go unchallenged.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Steve, It's been amazing and kind of horrifying at the
same time to see some of what these Democrat leaders,
from the Governor Gavenussom down to Mayor Bass of Los
Angeles and other officials as well. Their responses to this
range from the outrageous to the entirely incoherent.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
You have.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
On the one hand, they'll say things like don't be violent.
That plays into Trump's hands.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
I think they should be opposed to political violence and
assaults on officers and destruction of property, regardless of what
that will do to the poll numbers. And then beyond that,
it's completely unclear what their objection is, or rather, I
should say, I think it is clear that their objection
is not to anything other than the enforcement of American
(24:58):
immigration laws. There's no claim that federal authorities have done
something that is not lawful. They just are saying, whether
it's the mayor, the governor others, we don't like the
enforcement of federal law.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
No.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
And you know what was completely right. And the thing
that really illustrated that was the almost, you know, like
like revoltingly predictable way that when the first news broke
of these enforcement actions, one by one up popped on
social media the pandering statements from everybody in charge.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
In Los Angeles. I use that word advisorly.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
Of course they're not really in charge, but one after
another up popped the statement saying we at this time
we're thinking of our community.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
All this glader pandering to the activist left.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
And it was the mayor, which is totally predictable, and
it was the governor, which was totally predictable. But shockingly
and disturbingly, it was also the police chief and the DA,
every single person in authority in California putting out pandering
statements instead of saying very clearly, if you break the law,
(26:09):
you will be prosecuted and we will hold you accountable
and we will not tolerate lawlessness and disorder. That nobody
said anything like that. It was all pandering to the left.
And that tells you the rot that's gone on for
so long in California. And that's what we need to change.
And the majority of people understand now what's really going
(26:29):
on here that we have people who are, as I say,
not really in charge with the people at the top,
who have no interest in protecting the interests of the
majority of regular working people who are just being let
down all the time by this far left ideology.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Steve, this is not standing alone either. January thirty first,
I think it took several weeks you'll know better than me,
to put out the fires that were burning all over
life Los Angeles. I'm not an expert in arson, but
thankfully lighting things on fire intentionally in Los Angeles seems
like a bad idea given the history that we just
(27:10):
went through. But also to me, there's a connecting thread here,
and it is of Mayor Karen Bass and also Governor
Gavin Newsom being unable to make rational, reasonable decisions for
the people of Los Angeles and the people of California.
Buck and I have talked about this a lot. Buck
lived through it. In New York City, things got so
bad that people finally said, we need law and order,
(27:32):
we need Rudy Giuliani, Mayor Bloomberg. They fixed New York
City in many ways, and they had to do it
from an outsider perspective. Do you think that's what you
could bring and our Californians? Are things getting bad enough
where Californians say, we can't keep doing the same one
party decision making.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Yes, that is one hundred percent the central argument. We
can't that I make it. We cannot go on.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
Like this, And you can look at it's all of
the piece the fire of course that were and there's
a similar pattern here, right, which is that the extremist
policies caused the problem.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
So with the.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
Fires, it was the environmental extremism that meant that you
have this tinderbox situation. They didn't clear the brush, they
didn't do anything. You've got residents refined for protecting their
own property by clearing the brush. So they have the
extremist policies that caused the problem, and then their response
to the problem is totally incompetent, and then they just
lash around blaming someone else. Similar pattern here, it was
(28:30):
their extremest policies that caused this problem. The sanct You remember,
it's the sanctuary state policies that caused this whole situation
because there's no cooperation with federal immigration enforcement and law enforcement,
which means that these kinds of enforcement actions are necessary.
You don't see this in other states where you've got
cooperation between the FEDS and state and local authorities. So
they caused the problem in the first place, their response
(28:52):
is completely incompetent and inadequate, and then they blame someone else,
in this case obviously Trump. But there's another point I
want to make, which is which is about the pattern.
Just a couple of weekends ago in Los Angeles, you
sought very similar scenes to what we've just witnessed this week,
last past few days, on a smaller.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Scale, you had an illegal.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
Party, a roof party that got out of control the
warehouse building, hundreds of people spilling out into the local community,
marauding around, smashing up businesses, vandalism everywhere, literally setting cars
on fire. They commandeered a police car, jumping all over it, grafiting.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
The police car. What did the LAPD do? Nothing?
Speaker 6 (29:31):
Literally nothing, They stood back and just watched while all
this happened. There was not a single arrest. That's what's
the problem here. You have people who will not enforce
the law and uphold standards of civilized behavior, which is
the first responsibility of people in government. And that message
I'm drumming home loud and clear, and I think there
really will be changed in California in twenty twenty six
(29:53):
because we cannot go on like this.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Steve real quick before we go. Is it dying down
or is there a concern here that this could continue
or maybe even worsen.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
I think it is, and I think the president is
dying down, and that's good to see. And I think
it's the direct result of the President's tough response, because
I mean everywhere you.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Goes the National Guard holding the line, and so I
think that that has clearly made a difference.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
And last night was better than the weekend, and you know,
let's hope tonight is better. It's early morning here still,
so there's not nothing going on particularly, but I think
that it looks like things are getting more under control,
and of course that's something we welcome. But it's exactly
I think thanks to the tough federal response, which of
course all the politicians.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Here that's there. I mean, for goodness sake, the.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
Government of California spending most of his time yesterday, you know,
posting on X you know, anti Trump, trolling things and
filing lawsuits.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
It's protect madness madness.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Yeah, apparently he has neither read nor understood the Content Institution, Steve,
but that's not news.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
We're aware of that one.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Steve Hilton, what is your site for the governor's.
Speaker 6 (31:05):
Race, Steve Hilton for Governor dot com fo or Steve
hiltonext governor dot com.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Well, we encourage everybody in California who wants things to
change to go to Steve Hilton for California dot com.
Keep up the good work and sorry yeah for governor
and stay safe out there.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Fantastic great to read you guys, thanks.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
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We're talking about the situation in LA on the streets,
and thanks to Steve Hilton, who's out on the streets
of Los Angeles, and we took a bunch of your
calls yesterday from Los Angeles. And I do think the
argument that this is not a significant issue because of
Elon's purchase actually has made it much more difficult to
(32:54):
argue that there isn't something going on of a substantial.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Well, just think think of it this way.
Speaker 6 (32:59):
Cley.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
The days of the original BLM one point oh, which
I think was the first time we saw these piece.
These protests are fiery, but mostly peaceful. Yes, I think
that was Ferguson, right, and the early that was b
ON one point oh, and then George Floyd was BLM
two point oh. You can't do that anymore because CNN
(33:21):
and these other entities, including social media platforms, don't have
stranglehold over what information will be shared. So now if
you're CNN and you pull something, you're saying, oh, look
at this, look at this peaceful group, and some people
were doing this. Everyone says, Okay, well look at these
way moos on fire, look at these stores being looted,
look at this crazy stuff going on. I'm just gonna
say that. Steve Hilton just talk to us, and he's
(33:42):
obviously there. He says, this is dying down. It's dying
down because politically they are losing as much as I
think it is. The National Guard being deployed, you shoot,
national Guard is holding it in check, but they're not
continuing the same way because this is hurting the left.
Now there is any expected nationwide protest on June fourteenth
(34:04):
that is being set up. I was reading about this morning,
so I think LA has been a test case scenario
for them for what they can accomplish. But I wanted
to play this because Maxine Waters said there's no violence
in LA. I'm gonna call for this in a sec
But remember Gavin Newsom tried to share a burning police
(34:25):
car that one of that had been shared and was
going viral on social media, and he said, this is
not twenty twenty five, it's twenty twenty. He was also
governor in twenty twenty. But within a few hours there
were burning police cars also in twenty twenty five, and
what they're trying to do is say there's no violence
(34:46):
out there. And unfortunately, you have a choice. You can
believe what you actually see, or you can listen to
Congresswoman Maxine Waters cut Ten saying there's no violence in LA.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Don't believe what you saw. Listen to this.
Speaker 7 (35:00):
Even those who were out of step with what we
are advocating peaceful protest did not create any violence. Nobody
was shot, nobody was killed.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Get it in your head.
Speaker 7 (35:11):
And so when martial law is called, what are you
gonna say, I missed the pont. Don't miss the punt.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
You all don't think.
Speaker 7 (35:19):
That somehow because they called out the National Guard there
was violence. There was no violence. I was on the street,
I know, and I went from downtown detention back out
into the community talking to people. What happened in Paramount,
what happened in Compton, what happened in Inglewood. So first
of all, get it straight and don't just rely on
(35:41):
what you're being told. Are the few incidents that you saw?
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Okay, the police are legitimately having rocks poured onto them.
Their cars are being lit on fire, the waymos are
on fire. I love these waymos book. This is the
autonomous vehicles up in San Francisco. They're basically having to
shut them down. The wise of this is not actually
happening is turning into a really I think you're right,
(36:08):
political detrimental moment for Demos.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Well, the mood of.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
The country on this issue is something that Democrats completely
misjudged in the last election, and they continue to misjudge
it because we've seen enough ten million illegals under Biden.
The whole thing was a scam. People abusing the generosity
and the kindness of everyday Americans, taking advantage of our system,
(36:34):
clogging our emergency rooms, clogging our schools, and with English
as a second language, instruction costs skyrocketing and all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Americans are tired of this.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
And if you're going to say the rule of law
means I have to pay my taxes, the rule of
law means these illegals have got to go.
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