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July 22, 2024 36 mins
Biden drops out, Clay wins the steak from Buck. Dems coalesce around Kamala. Where's Biden? Texas Governor Greg Abbott joins Clay and Buck to discuss Kamala Harris' failure as border czar, calls for Biden to resign the presidency, and talks about how Democrats have denied democracy to their voters. Secret Service director Cheatle destroyed in disastrous House hearing. Who's more likable: Hillary or Kamala?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in everybody.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Monday edition of The Clay Travis en Buck Sexton Show.
It is a huge news day. Joe Biden is out.
You may have blogged for mister Clay Travis. You may
applaud he is the winner of a of a stake,
a very expensive, overpriced We'll get into those details later.
We actually have so much news that we can extend

(00:23):
Clay's gloating over the course of the program because we
have a bunch of things that we have to get
to today. Secret Service Director up on Capitol Hill a
total mess.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Not not actually giving any answers.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
We have so much here, but just just to put
all this into the proper context, we had a presidential
In terms of the news this month, how much news
there is usually the summer for political news is pretty minimal, right,
you know a lot of people. DC is a ghost
town in August, even an election year. It tends to

(00:58):
settle down a little bit. They have the convey nobody
really cares or remembers, and then you get into the
big stuff in the fall. This month has been crazy.
We had a presidential assassination attempt against President Trump or
a presidential candidate assassination attempt, he was hit. I keep
reminding people say, wow, they almost shot President Trump. No,

(01:18):
they shot him, he just was okay. So that was
not this most recent weekend. The weekend before. Then, on
this weekend, after weeks and weeks of Joe Biden his
team saying he's staying in, He's staying in, suddenly a
tweet comes out on x Elon Musk's platform.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
A private platform. Mind you, isn't this so interesting?

Speaker 2 (01:44):
It's almost like a Facebook post was the way we
found out about this. Joe Biden has dropped out, has
officially endorsed Kamala Harris, and then we'll get into all
of the machinations around this. And there's so much here,
and I know everyone's all very fired up, and I'm

(02:04):
sorry for the residents of Buck Island. We did get
hit by a last second tsunami and there are no
structures left standing, and in fact we are now a
wreckage like a scuba site only so you can go
visit us underwater.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yes, I've always thought Atlantis, We're the new Atlantis. Yes,
Clai Clay's gonna be grinning a lot today. And you
know what earned it. We've been talking about this for
two years. There's been some evolution here as to what
we thought would happen, respectively, what Clay thought, what I thought.
This year, I've been saying, if it's not Biden, it
will be Harris. But I've always thought, and I will
stick to this, that Biden would manage to push this

(02:38):
all the way through the debate was completely disastrous for him,
more disastrous than I thought it would be. So I
didn't have that data point to work with, but I
figured they're gonna they're still gonna be able to rally
around him enough that they think he's their best choice. Clay,
we got a million things to dive into here. The
big thing obviously Biden out. All eyes turned to Kamala.

(02:59):
Fifty million of small donation, small dollar donors raised in
one day, they say, the biggest day of fundraising, you know,
in years for Kamala Harris. All the editorials now, the
shaping of the narrative, I mean, they're right in this.
They're bringing in the interns to write these editorials. They're
just trying to churn out as much nonsense as they can.

(03:20):
Here's where I am on this, Clay, this is terrible
for the Democrats. What's going on right now.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Now.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
I'm not saying that they can't pull something off, and
there's crazy last minute possibilities, but I do not see
a world in which Kamala Harris, one of the most
untalented politicians, a DEI vice president, is able to go
up against not just a strong Republican but Donald Trump
with the biggest wind at his back and the most

(03:49):
fire in the belly we have ever seen. I think
that the Democrats, and this is why I didn't see
this coming. I think it's it's worse than a crime.
It's a blunder. I think what they have done is madness,
and it's because they've panicked and they went to war
with each other, and the plan was to lie the
whole time, and they got caught in a lie.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
What do you see?

Speaker 4 (04:11):
I think there are two big questions that are out
there that will determine a lot of where we're going
from this point. Number one to what extent, if at all,
will this be contested. Right now, it looks like Kamala
Harris is basically going to get the nomination without think
about this buck without one person ever having voted for

(04:34):
her to be president in her entire political career. We've
never seen anything like this. I mean, that is truly extraordinary.
Remember she dropped out in twenty twenty before the voting started.
Democrats overwhelmingly rejected her in the twenty twenty race, and
now she's going to get the nomination without ever having
had to run for it. Let me ask you, this

(04:56):
is so my first question is going to be contested.
I bet we agree on this. Do you think if
Biden had dropped out before the primaries and Kamala had run,
do you think she would have won an open primary
as the Democrat nominee?

Speaker 1 (05:12):
I do not. Do you think Kamala wins this nomination? No?

Speaker 2 (05:17):
And this is the It's almost like the super delegates
that remember they rigged the system for Hillary over Bernie
in twenty sixteen. This is, in essence a Democrat machine,
like a super delegate election. They're just deciding that this
is who the person will be. I know they're gonna say, oh, well,
at the convention, the delegates will have to yeah, but

(05:39):
they had a whole prime They just threw out fourteen
million votes for Joe Biden. Okay, yes, they just said
those these are.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
The word defending democracy. People.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
They just said the fourteen million votes that Joe Biden
had and all the stuff we said about Joe Biden's fine,
he's gonna have a grade four more years and everything.
They have wiped that away. They pretend like it never happened.
And the other part of this, there's so many layers here, Clay,
Joe Biden is not fit to be president right now.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
If he's not well, that's my second question. That's okay,
it will will it be contested? Second one is in
the gambling markets basically have it right now, and they've
been very predictive in terms of you and me and
everybody else being able to bet. They have it at
fifty to fifty. Whether he's going to finish his term,
and my question on whether he finishes his term obviously
he could die, right and I hate to say that,

(06:29):
but he put out this statement on X.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
It's super weird.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
We haven't seen him. Kamala Harris just showed up at
the White House. I know supposedly he's got COVID, but
that's basically a cold.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
You're telling me. They couldn't wheel in a camera, they couldn't.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
Bring in an ability to take a video of all this.
For historical purpose very strange. And that's why let's presume
that he doesn't die, which I can't believe. We have
to say that that is, he doesn't just die because
of he's got a natural different conflict.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
Second's second question here is, and I don't know the
answer to this, does it help or hurt Kamala to
run as the incumbent? And I don't because I can
see it cutting both ways, by which I mean, on
the one hand, it makes it look like even more
of a rig job. If she's elevated, becomes the first woman,

(07:19):
first minority woman to be president, and gets to run
as the incumbent, it feels like a rig job on
the other hand, which might cut against her. On the
other hand, then she's the incumbent and it gives her
more of a stamp of authority over the next several months.
I'm curious how you would see this purely from a

(07:40):
political perspective. Does she benefit running as the incumbent?

Speaker 2 (07:46):
I think that they want to give the illusion because Democrats,
it's so central to their sense of their party.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
They're like, we're we're all about defending democracy.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
They want to give the illusion that Kamala is a choice,
but Kamala's foisted it on them. Kamala is a is
the pick is the decision of the machine. She is
not the person that the Democrats, the Democrat voter at
any meaningful level, has decided should be the nominee. So
I think that it's it should be untenable for Biden

(08:18):
to stay in office as he is. He should have
to resign and Kamala Harris should take over as the president.
And that would make the most sense. I also think
that would I think that would benefit her in the
long run, because the fact that Biden isn't resigning and
is staying in office while he clearly does not have
the mental faculties to continue to do the job, to me,

(08:41):
is a in essence, an insult a Kamala Harris too right.
You said you picked this person because she's ready to
take over. You clearly have You are clearly Joe Biden
not at your best. He has admitted that you are
not a game Joe Biden, whatever that used to mean.
So you're not gonna let Kamala Harris take over in
the situation, You're gonna ride it out to the end.

(09:01):
I mean, just pardon Hunter and get it over with, right,
I mean, like, what are we really talking about here.
He's not going to sign any real legislation. He just
wants to stay in the game longer, and I think
try to negotiate more stuff, more goodies for the Bidens
on his way out. I am really curious and I
feel very strongly about this part of the Clay Biden
didn't want to go, and Biden wasn't going all right. Yes,

(09:24):
they forced him. They straight up they made him an
offer he can't refuse. And this isn't the first time.
This was the third all out media push New York Times, everybody,
He's got to go, He's got to go, He's got
to go. The first two after the disastrous debate, Biden says,
I'm staying. Deal with it. I'm the nominee. I won

(09:45):
deal with it. I'm the president. That this is not
the plan, Okay, the plan is not to drag this
out because time is not on the side of Biden,
of a Kama and the Democrats right now. I mean,
they're scrambling to figure out what happens next. They did something,
they presented it with something. I mean, I know they're
gonna say, oh, it was just the polls now, because

(10:08):
I still believe Biden. If you really look at the data,
Biden's a better candidate than Kamala against Donald Trump. And
I know that sounds insane, but that's clearly what Biden
believed up until five minutes ago. And I think that
Donald Trump, if we have an election that is vaguely
free and fair, there's just no way that Kamala Harris
wins this election. I think they've almost seeded this whole thing.

(10:30):
Now they're gonna try to cheat, They're gonna kick and scream, they'
gonna have a lot of money in our media.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
I know all of that, But really, Kamala Harris.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Wins in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
George, absolutely not.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
There's no way she wins in those states based on
the numbers that we already see for Trump. It's just
not feasible unless they cheat beyond our wildness imagination.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
My theory Buck is and I agree with you. I
think this is desperation. But I do think that the
Biden I mean, when you watched him on Friday, the
last time we saw him try to walk the stairs
and even try to get into the presidential Limo. I mean,
he legitimately looks like with every step that he was

(11:13):
taking that he might die between the steps. And I
hate to say that I'm anti death. I don't want
anybody to die. I don't feel confident that he's going
to be alive on a inauguration day. I mean, I
can't believe that I'm saying that, but based on the
trajectory that we are seeing of him, I don't know
that he's got six months left to live.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Well, well, there's some there's some stories out there already
that like Biden was personal friends with his doctor, with
his official doctor, and that the doctor I'm trying to
look this up right now, that that there was maybe
some business dealings that the doctor was going to be

(11:55):
involved with the Biden I mean, there's there's a lot
of dirty stuff going on here.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
So my theory is buck that they may have gone
to him and said, hey, we've got twenty fifth Amendment
possibilities here. You can either go out and I'm sure
they'll give the Biden family a couple one hundred million
dollars for their foundation, right for their presidential library. And
I'm doing quotation marks on those because in many ways

(12:22):
that's just a grift, right. The Biden family gets those jobs.
Hunter is some executive of the Biden Foundation, Jill is
some executive of the Biden Foundation, and they make seven
figure salaries to host dinners and raise money and do
all those things.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
I think they threatened him. It does. None of this
makes sense that you would put.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
A letter on your personal letter head up on your
social accounts, which we know you don't run, and then
that you would have another post where you say that
Kamala Harris has your complete support. I mean, this would
suffice as proof of life in a hostage video, like
I feel like we need the President holding up today's

(13:06):
copy of the newspaper to verify that he's still alive
and well, and then to have Kamala Harris today at
the White House again. I know he supposedly has COVID,
but you and I would walk into Biden's beach house
for an exclusive interview right now with zero fear of

(13:26):
potentially catching COVID from him, in the same way that
I wouldn't be afraid of interviewing anybody who had a cold.
Right like this, It's not like he's got I don't
I don't even know what the illness would have to
be that you would be terrified to be in the
same room with him.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Also, the whole way that this went down, that there
was no video. There were Biden's staffers who have come
out publicly and said that they didn't know.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Yeah, most of them said they found out from the posting,
which I mean, you've got to be there were Biden's staffers.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
This is why for a moment there there was a
rebound in Buck Island Land prices before the tsunami took
us all out. They were saying on Friday, Biden is
the nominee. He's staying in focused.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
They went on the Sunday morning talk shows and said
he was one hundred percent on it all in a
couple of hours before they kicked him out.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
This is what I'm saying. It was not the plan. Okay,
they got to him. They got to him. How did
they get to him? Finally, they've been trying to get
to him for a month more than that, well whatever,
you know, the weeks when you add them up, would
be Ever since the debate, they've certainly been pushing to
get him out entirely, and it hadn't worked until now.

(14:43):
If he was just gonna go, and this was like
the Democrats pulling all the strings. He would have gone
right after the debate. In fact, they wouldn't even gotten
to the debate. If this was the plan, they would
have had Kamala's the nominee and they wouldn't have even been
running Biden.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
This whole thing.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Makes no sense. They screwed up royally. Everyone needs to
stop a su that the Democrats have some genius planning
and this is eight D chess and they're playing it out.
That is not what happened. Okay, they if they were
really smart, they would have just refused to debate.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Which I thought they would, and they should have.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
They should have taken my advice so to speak, or
in a sense, Clay, they should have refused to have
Biden debate until least the fall, because then he would
have been the nominee.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
You know, they would have said it whenever.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
The real story of this campaign is written, and I
mean the real story, not the bs that they're all
putting out there. Hopefully Trump smokes Kamala and at some
point next year all of these real stories start being
a bitter Democrat.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Democrats correct, because they'll come out and tell you the truth.
That's right.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
You need a beat down because then everybody will just
come out and do the whole story like they do
a lot of times with campaigns. None of it adds up.
Even the decision for June twenty seventh didn't add up
in the first places.

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(17:32):
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Speaker 2 (18:52):
It is a massive day in the news in country,
and we're trying to make sense of all. We're joined
the Governor of Texas, Greg Abbott, who's got a particular
perspective on some of these issues.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Governor, appreciate you making the time.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
For us great to be back.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
So it seems, Governor like they have very quickly circled
around Kamala Harris as the likely Democrat nominee. Not official yet,
but you know, who knows these days what's going to happen,
assuming it is Kamala. I recall she was assigned as
Biden's border czar for a period of time, you, as

(19:30):
the governor of Texas, had a front row seat to
the czar doing her best on the border.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
How did that go?

Speaker 3 (19:37):
So she gets an F minus for a grade as
borders are, remember this, she cackled and laughed about being
borders are, acting as though she had no interest in
it whatsoever. And then when it was her responsibility. I
can remember interviews of her asking her if she's even
yet been to the border, and she admitted that she

(19:58):
had not. I think during her entire time as borders are,
she may have been down maybe close to the border
one time. The bottom line is this, she, for one,
did not go down there and see personally the crisis
that she and Joe Biden created. She did not see
exactly what needed to be done to fix the border crisis.

(20:20):
And you've seen the numbers, and that is not just
the more than eleven million illegal immigrants who have come
across the border, but a number of Americans who are
losing their lives, who are being sexually assaulted, who are
victims of crime because Kamala Harris did not do her
job as the borders are and led to the worst
border crisis in the history of the United States of America.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
Governor, are you as blown away as we are by
just I know, the last twenty five days since the
debate on June twenty seventh have just been one cavalcade
of insanity after another. But when you saw that Joe
Biden was announcing he was not going to run via
a letter that he posted on x we still have

(21:06):
not seen him, not even a photograph or video of
him since Friday. All of this is super strange. Do
you think if he can't run in twenty twenty four
that he should still be president now? And who in
the world is making decisions right now, given that there
is a great deal of tumult as you mentioned at

(21:26):
the southern border where you are right now in Texas,
but also in the Middle East, in Europe, this is
a scary time. Who knows what China might decide to
do with Taiwan. Does Biden need to step down? In
your mind?

Speaker 3 (21:40):
I actually posted that on X last night, that if
he is incapable of running for president, he is incapable
of serving as president. But listen, you made a very
insightful point, and that is the United States of America,
because of Joe Biden's condition, because of the uncertainty about
exactly who is pulling the strings in Washington, d C.

(22:02):
We are at an extremely vulnerable time globally. You've seen
the conflagrations that you know in in Iran, in Ukraine,
in China, even in North Korea, and who knows where
ever else, And now would be the time for any
of our adversaries to be able to make moves that

(22:23):
would compromise the future of the United States of America.
We've been, you know, going through three and a half
years of a president who's asleep at the wheel. Now
he's absence, he's a wall, and Kamala Harris's is not
up to speed on being able to address any of
those issues. And so I am very concerned about what's

(22:44):
going on in the country in our exposure to incoming threats,
not to mention the ongoing disaster at the border, where
there truly is nobody in the United States that has
any commitment to securing the border. Because these these issues
blend together. You all know that there have been countless,
as in hundreds of terrorists come across the border, and

(23:06):
those are the ones who were known. Listen, if you're
on the terriffs, watch so you pay extra to the
cartels not to be caught. Think about all the TSA
agents that we have in the United States of America
who are inspecting your shoes and going over your body
as you try to get on a plane for the
purported purpose of stopping a terrorist. They don't need to
go through an airport anymore. They can just walk across

(23:29):
the border. And so the United States is extraordinarily exposed
to terroristic threats, and we have an administration in Kamala Harris.
The borders are in Joe Biden's absence, who are exposing
us to more terroristic dangers every single day, just through
our southern border.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Governor Rabbit, we're speaking of Governrabbit of Texas. Sounds to really,
you don't think Kamala Harris is ready to lead, sir?

Speaker 1 (23:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Does anyone thinks she's ready to lead? I mean, she's
done nothing but embarrassed even the Biden administration. She's known
for her cackle, but nothing else. Nobody can say anything
that she's known for. And then think about this. You know,
you mentioned that she's the borders are I can't remember
any other task given to her. Here's the point. She
had just one job, and that one job that she had,

(24:18):
she completely flunked it. And that is her resume. And
so it's going to be easy for President Trump to
make a contrast with Kamala Harris and explain to Americans
why they need to elect Donald Trump. And I think
that that will he will gain extraordinary support and Americans

(24:39):
will flee from the disaster zone of Kamala Harrison. That
doesn't even include the disaster of her experience in California,
in San Francisco and the disaster zone she made of that.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
I'm just wondering, Governor, do you think that they're going
to have to rethink some of their their policy of
the Democrats side their decision of trying to flood Texas
with money to pull off some kind of an upset win.
Because Kamala Harris is the nominee, I can't imagine she's
going to play much better in Texas than Biden would
have at the top of the ticket.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
Well, my only hope in prayer is that they spend
all their money in Texas. But I think they will
be smart enough to realize that would be a complete
waste of money, and so I fully expect them to
spend zero dollars or in the state of Texas. The
converse is true, and that is that they will come
to the state of Texas to raise money, but they
won't be spending any money here, and that's fine. Suck

(25:32):
up all the money out of the state of Texas,
have them wasted on Kamala Harris, and that will ensure
that Ted Cruz will win his Senate race. But even
a higher percentage.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
Point, Governor, we've heard since January sixth, that of twenty
twenty one, that Democrats are the party protecting democracy. They
now in theory, are going to run Kamala Harris, a
woman who has never received a single vote from any
person in America, to be president of the United States.

(26:04):
They're tossing out every single vote that occurred during the
course of their primary. Is your mind in an honest
America would anyone arguing that the Democrats are trying to
protect a democracy have to be shouted down by media
or voters out there? Is that argument from their quiver

(26:25):
of arguments officially done.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Kiss over and so they have completely demonstrated that they
have denied democracy, with the democracy being defined as allowing
the voters to speak and have the voters actual vote count. So,
as you pointed out, there's been more than fourteen million

(26:49):
people who voted in the Democrat primary. But before we
talk about commlin that regard, remember this, all of the
smoke filled room players have not yet spoken. And there
still remains the possibility that the presidential nominee for the
Democrats will actually not be Kamala It could be somebody else.
Here's the point I want to make, and that is

(27:09):
it could very well be possible that the person chosen
by the Democrats actually received zero votes by any Democrat
primary voter. That's the exact paradigm of undermining democracy, undermining
the voters and saying we don't care what the voters say.

(27:30):
We're going to pick our hand picked person. But let's
go back to the point you meant about Kamala. So
the Democrats were perfectly happy with Joe Biden, and the
fourteen million people who voted for Joe Biden were perfectly
happy until they realized, oh wait a second, looks like
he may lose. And so we need to undermine all
the voters and say your vote really doesn't matter here

(27:51):
to heck with democracy, the insiders, we've got to find
someone who maybe can win regardless of who the people
voted for in the primary. So this is the as
I say that, the paradigm, the classic example undermining democracy,
undermining the voters, skip arming them, and ignoring them. And

(28:12):
so this completely takes that issue off of the playing
board of arguments by the Democrats.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
Governor, fantastic stuff has always buck you got one more.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
No, No, I just want to appreciate the Governor Abbott
for coming to join us. Fantastic as always, Governor, and
thank you for keeping Texas Texas.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
We like we don't live there, but we like knowing
it's there. Just in case, Governor, I'm giving you a
heads up.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
I'm going to be down for the Georgia Texas game,
which may be the best game in the SEC this season.
So I'm planning on seeing you when I'm in town
for that one.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
Yeah, come on by. We'll have a good time and
look for a good long WORNT team this year. Hey, listen,
you know you not went to Vada Belt Law School
at different times, but the same school. Texas plays at
Vanderbilt this year, if I recall, first time in long
time they play Vanderbilt.

Speaker 4 (29:02):
Well, come up to Nashville. We'll hang out and we'll
go swing by Vanderbilt Law School and see if they'll
claim both of us.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
I think they will, but they might not.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
I don't think they will accept me.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
Governor Greg Abbott, proud Vanderbilt Law School graduate alongside of me.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Thank you, Governor. We'll talk to you again soon. Maybe
i'll see a couple of football games this fall. Look.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
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(29:45):
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Speaker 1 (30:56):
Welcome back in.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
We're going to dive into this Secret Service hearing. We've
got some pretty shocking audio that we're gonna play for
you of director Cheatle, who somehow still has a job
being lambasted from both sides of the political spectrum. I mean,
even AOC is teeing off, and I do give credit
for you would think of all things we could say, Hey,

(31:21):
allowing anyone to come within a quarter inch of having
their head blown off on television, whether it's a Democrat,
Republican Independent, is a huge failure of the Secret Service.
And it seems like at least everyone can agree on that.
You just heard from Texas Governor Greg Abbott, and we
need to dive into this, like right off the top

(31:42):
of the next hour.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Two buck.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
I'm still stunned by the way that Biden Withdrew, but
I think we need to dive into the actual politics.
You and I agree on this. I think Kamala Harris
is a significantly worse candidate than Joe.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
I just this is why the coup to me is
self defeating, the coup which was now successful. The Democrats
are Remember, these are the same Democrats who convinced themselves
that they could put Joe Biden forward in a debate
and everybody wouldn't see that he has senility. And they're
the same Democrats who thought that prosecuting Trump with four
different cases and then also civil cases in New York

(32:24):
would destroy him in the polls. It's on the exact opposite.
These people are not geniuses. They make huge mistakes replacing
Biden with Kamala. I'm telling you it's a blunder. So
it's good for us now. It doesn't mean that anything
is over, and you know, we got a long way
to go here before the election. But Clay Kamala Harris
is a uniquely I'm going to say something right now,

(32:47):
and it's gonna be harsh, and people might get mad
at me for it, there might be some pushback on it,
but I think it needs to be said. Hillary Clinton
is more likable than Kamala Harris. Hillary Clinton.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
Hillary is way smarter and way more accomplished than Kamala Harris.
I mean, I don't think there's any doubt at all
about that. And my question and I'd be heario, would
you rather have dinner with Hillary or Kamalin? In terms of,
you know, who would be a better companion, storyteller, etc.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
I would rather Hillary be president than Kamala.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
I'm not saying that I want it, but I'm just
saying if you told me, hey, Taiwan is about to
be invaded by China, who would you rather have? Responding
to that, Hillary Clinton or Kamala Harris, I don't even
think that's remotely a difficult question. And my thing for you,
Buck is and you hit on it somewhat. Trump one

(33:39):
in sixteen running against Hillary because a lot of Midwestern
voters just did not like Hillary and they were willing
to take a chance on Trump. Who are the voters
out there? They all yeah andree, but really quickly. On
Trump in twenty sixteen, Democrats massively misc calculated. They thought

(34:01):
Trump was a joke. CNN and Jeff Zucker and the
whole crew were there thought that Trump was a clown
and that they could get huge ratings and Hillary was
gonna smoke him.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
So I'm just you know, because I think people get
into this.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Oh they've got a plan and their geniuses, and they
know they do not know what they're This is disarray, folks.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Sorry you were gonna say, who does Hillary? Who does Hillary?

Speaker 3 (34:20):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (34:21):
We just came from Wisconsin where we spent all last week.
We had a fabulous time. Thank you to everybody in
the Milwaukee area. Same thing, Pennsylvania and Michigan. Let's go
to the big ten states where we think this election
is going to be decided. They have two Democrats to
do probably sweep all three. Who is the voter in Michigan, Wisconsin,
or Pennsylvania that was not a Biden voter that is

(34:46):
going to be a Kamala voter?

Speaker 2 (34:48):
I think does This is what I'm saying. I don't
think that voter is. You don't think that person exists.
I actually think there's I agree with you.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
I think there are people that would have bought bought
into Biden. They bought into Grandpa Joe. They're not high
information voters. They would have been willing to vote Biden.
They're not going to vote Kamala. I think not only
are there no voters who are suddenly going to show
up and be more likely to support Kamala. I think

(35:17):
that she's going to lose some of the Biden voters.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Let's just put this out there.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
The head of the Teamsters union spoke at the RNC,
which was a big deal. Hadn't happened before. If you're
a teamster, are you? Are you somebody who is a
teamster who's going to vote for Biden? Or rather you
know you were, you were thinking about it. Now you're
going to.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Vote for Kamala. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (35:45):
But Kamala seals the deal for you? Really, I just
don't think that's reality. And remember Democrats were in real
trouble with men already, black, white, Asian, Hispanic men. A
lot of men are going to vote Trump. You're telling
me that Kamala is going to swing men.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
And I don't even think.

Speaker 4 (36:04):
I think the Kamala story about being a side chick,
the mistress of the married mayor, she has no kids
of her own. I think has more women become aware
of Kamala's backstory. Women don't like side chicks, Women don't
like mistresses. A lot of women don't like mistresses who
don't have kids of their own. She ain't a likable person.

(36:25):
Let's be honest.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
For the Democrats, Kamala was basically National DEI Chief. Okay,
that's what her real job was as vice President National
Chief of DEI. Now they're saying she's going to be
the CEO. That's a different job, and I don't think
she's gonna get it because

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Why

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