May 14, 2025 • 37 mins
Clay and Buck open the hour by highlighting the growing scrutiny from mainstream journalists and Democratic leaders, including Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries, who are now facing tough questions about Biden’s mental and physical fitness. The hosts emphasize how media figures like CNN’s Jake Tapper are attempting to reframe their past coverage, with Tapper admitting he “didn’t do enough” to report on Biden’s condition—an admission Clay and Buck criticize as opportunistic and lacking accountability.
The conversation intensifies as they dissect the broader implications of Biden’s perceived incapacity, questioning who was truly making executive decisions during his presidency. They speculate whether figures like Jill Biden, Hunter Biden, or senior White House advisors were effectively running the country. This leads to a broader critique of the Democratic Party’s internal dynamics, suggesting a coordinated effort to maintain power despite Biden’s limitations.
Clay and Buck also explore the media’s complicity, accusing journalists of knowingly suppressing concerns about Biden’s health to preserve access and influence. They draw parallels to past political scandals and argue that the current media pivot is less about truth-telling and more about brand rehabilitation and profit.
In contrast, the hosts praise Donald Trump’s ongoing diplomatic efforts in the Middle East, particularly his meetings in Qatar, framing them as evidence of strong leadership and effective foreign policy. They argue that Trump’s actions are bringing economic and geopolitical benefits to the U.S., in stark contrast to what they describe as Biden’s ineffectiveness.
The hour concludes with a humorous yet relatable segment on the challenges of grocery shopping as a husband, offering a light-hearted break from the intense political commentary.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Appreciate all of you hanging out with all of us.
We have got a loaded program for you. We'll head
into the Trump Cabinet at one thirty with Scott Turner,
(00:41):
who is a House and Urban Development Cabinet member, and
then at two thirty we're going to talk about the
really it's kind of interesting ongoing.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Trial.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I'm not even sure what his official name is now,
Diddy of Sean Puffy Combs that is currently taking place
in New York City. It is not on television. If
it were, I think it would be must see television
because some of the revelations coming out are damaging personally,
(01:16):
certainly to Sean Diddy Combs. But is he going to
be sentenced to the rest of his life in prison.
We'll get into that with Paul Murrow, who has been
watching that trial. But Buck, here's the reality. The media
is ashamed, and they are so ashamed that they are
(01:37):
actually and embarrassed that they are actually turning into something
you never would have thought you would see. That is
Democrat attackers. They're actually asking questions of the Democrats out there.
And I think this drum beat is going to continue
for some time as the Biden revelations continue to come out.
(02:00):
Yesterday we told you that there was a discussion about
having to put Biden in a wheelchair and that Biden
didn't recognize George Clooney. Chuck Schumer got asked about this. Now,
remember there was a big New York Times piece that
Chuck Schumer was one of the people who finally forced
Joe Biden to step down. He went to his house
(02:22):
at Rehoboth Beach, had a face to face meeting with him.
There's some discussion that there might have been an ultimatum
given then, where Schumer said Hey, if you don't step down,
I'm going to go public and say that I think
you should step down. You don't have any support inside
of the Senate Democratic Caucus by and large, well he
was asked, Chuck Schumer was, hey, do you feel some
(02:44):
responsibility for lying about Joe Biden's mental and physical condition?
And this is what it sounded like. This has gone megaviral.
Chuck Schumer, not having a good few weeks in the
public eye, listened to cut two precedent.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
You have the influenced.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
George Funds. You mean to show the American look, we're
just looking forward.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
We're just looking forward, is the talking point. Here's another one.
This is CNN. Suddenly the journalists have been embarrassed. They
were in on the cover up, but they are pretending
that they were not, and they are holding Democrats feet
to the fire. Here is Cassie Hunt grilling Chuck Schumer
on Biden's mental state.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
I think this is from a.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
While back, next to Biden in the Oval office, February
twenty seventh, at twenty twenty four, just a handful of
months before the president took that debate stage. I'm interested
to know whether the man that you saw sitting there
on that couch on that day you were in there,
you saw him up close and personal. Did you really
not have any idea that he was not fit to
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serve a second term?
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Casey, we're looking forward.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
We have the largest medicaid cut in front of us,
we have the coll federal.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Government, all of this because you lost a presidential election.
And is that not Joe Biden's responsibility for deciding to
run again.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
We're looking forward, that's it. That's it.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Uh, And then Buck that this is I don't think
this is going to play very well. Hakeem Jefferies, who
is the minority leader in the House who would be
the House Speaker if Democrats are able to take back
control of the chamber in the midterm, also asked the
same questions here he is cut for.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
There's a number of different revelations coming out about President
Joe Biden's decline for recent books. Is it helpful for
your caucus for these to come out now?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
And would you want Biden to campaign for House Democrats.
Speaker 6 (04:43):
We're not looking backward.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
We're looking forward at this particular moment in.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Time, all right, We're looking forward, Buck is We're looking forward,
going to Suffice And here's why I do think it's significant.
We're in the middle of the big beautiful bill being
worked right now Congress. Almost no one is talking about that.
Almost everyone is talking about the timing here of this
book revelation and Biden.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
And Trump's big trip to the Middle East still underway.
Huge deals being negotiated, financial deals for this country's economy,
peace deals. He met with the new head of Syria
formerly in al Qaeda, and had a ten million dollar
bounty on his head, but now him and Trump are
hanging out chatting. It's a crazy world we live. Why
(05:29):
to come back quite a comeback, not quite a Trump
level comeback, but I mean that's a pretty big comeback.
So we shall see what comes out of all of that.
But yes, Clay, in the meantime, here's what I see
happening the Democrats. I don't think there's a strategy with this, really.
I think that they know that they have to go
through some internal purge and there's going to be a
(05:50):
lot of finger pointing. Generally, this can go one of
two ways, because nobody wants to be accountable, and nobody
wants to be held responsible for this enormous lie and
want us to be very clear. We know Clay knows,
I know you know. It was an OP, as in,
an information operation, as in they all knew that Biden
couldn't do this. They just figured maybe we can keep
(06:13):
the charade going long enough to just squeak out one
more win. And no one thought Biden was Nobody thought
Biden was gonna do all four years that I can
assure you, like, there's not a single person. I don't
even think Biden believed that.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
But I hate to say this, Buck, and I said
it before on the air. I'm not sure Biden's gonna
be alive by the time I hate to say it,
but I'm not sure He's going to be alive by
the time we get to twenty twenty nine.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Thank you, Captain Bummer.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
But yeah, I just, I mean, his deterioration not only
has been unable, I just I don't think he's gonna
be alive at the next I.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Don't want to hand a talking point to the other side,
but it is true in any of you who have
dealt with older relatives, or perhaps you've seen this, if
you've been fortunate enough to you know, live into your
golden years yourself, aging is not linear. Once you get
past you know, six sixty seventy meeting, you can have
a few years where everything seems like it's pretty much
I think stable, and then you can decline pretty rapidly
(07:08):
because of health issues.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
So that's one of the arguments that they're trotting out already.
I would note that they're saying, oh, but it happened
so quickly, like he was great and then just in
the election year. That's a lie. That's not true. We
all knew for all four years. But Clay, generally, the
move here is you either scapegoat or you do the
we're all to blame, right, the collective, which means when
(07:30):
when there's collective blame, nobody is to blame. I know
this from the CIA, like when it's the institution or
the machine or whatever. That's just a way of you know,
remember that guy who came forward after nine to eleven.
I can't remember a was it named Richard Clark, who
had been the National Security Advisor, And all the Democrats
were like, look at him taking blame for this, Like
the guy was on a book tour. When he's like,
(07:51):
we failed you, it's like no one actually thought that
he failed them. But it was a big pounds chess moment. Right,
we failed you means nothing. So there may be a
move for the Democrats that I think is the likeliest,
and you'll see that even from some of the journals
who are going around now making these arguments because.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
What they wanted to do was the scapegoat.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
The problem is Biden as the scapegoat doesn't make sense because,
as you and I have discussed, they should have known
and pushed him out earlier. They were in on this.
What they want people to believe is that Biden had
everybody fooled and that they didn't know until the last minute,
and in good faith they were just supporting their nominee.
The reality is they were in on the heist. Their
(08:34):
fingerprints are all over it too, and so that's why
the scapegoat maneuver, which would have been easy, which is
Biden's the problem, isn't really working because if Biden was
the problem, we all knew he had these problems. Why
did you go along with it until the debate.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I'm not sure, by the way, let's grab this audio
if you would, Boys and girls, I went on with
Sean Hannity last night. I'm not sure your boy, Tapper
is going to come on show after what I said
about him on Fox News last night, and I tagged him,
I don't want to run and hide. But we played
Seawn did the clip of him going after Laura Trump
(09:10):
when she said quite succinctly that Biden didn't have the
mental or physical capacity to be president, and Tapper said, oh,
this is disgraceful. You're going after him because he has
a stutter. We played that clip yesterday on the program,
and I do think there is now a major discussion.
It's not only that the media was complicit. It's in
(09:32):
the media's profiting on both sides, right. I mean, you say, hey,
Biden's still the guy, and you make money off your advertisers.
As soon as Biden's not the guy, you show up
with a knife and gut him when he's already Basically.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
This is what I said, like the this is like
the OJ book. If I did it, Here's how I
did it. And it was so appalling that everybody, finally,
I think, was totally done with any belief in OJ's innocence.
If you were dumb enough to think he was innocent
enough to that point, which very few people war But
I think it was just the grotesque nature of Oh,
now you're going to make make money off of millions
(10:06):
of dominitting, probably off of your your grotesque inadequacy in
covering him. Now you say, hey, there to blame, and
now you make money on that side too. Well, I
think you you've stumbled onto something that is critical and
I want everybody because Tapper is a very shifty fellow.
I have known through his work and we have had
exchanges and they have not been friendly. Uh for the
(10:30):
most part. He's very shifty, and I'm hearing now he's like, oh, well,
maybe I could have done more or something. They're going
to try to massage this, and he's going to be
the poster the poster boy, so to speak. He's going
to be the Oh, I'm leading back into a new
era of objective and neutral journalism. Right, this is the
brand play. You take a slap on the wrist and
(10:51):
then you come back. No, no, no, no accountability on this.
Accountability would mean you don't actually ever believe these people again,
because when it really mattered, they lied to you and
they knew they were lying to you. Right, If somebody clay,
if somebody you know cheats in the stock industry, right,
if somebody is engaged and you get you get an
industry ban. You look at this issue and the people
(11:14):
who were part of the Biden uh you know, the
Biden cover up essentially of his dementia. They're all planning
to stay in this business forever and as you point out,
even to get rich on it. That's that's not accountability
at all. And i'd also note this, you're hearing about
the White House. Oh, the White House covered this up. Yeah,
you hated this, And it's a really good argument. Who yep, who.
(11:38):
I don't want White House aids. This is again the
thing about collective guildt.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
I don't want.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
People were saying in the White House that he was
sharp as attack behind closed doors. Name the names. If
you won't do that, it's clear it's because you were
in on it and you don't want your co conspirators
to out.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
You name the names.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
And also the secondary part of this, which I think
becomes incredibly important, is who was the actual president? If
you actually want to do a deep dive on the
lies that were told surrounding Biden, then we also need
to be asking the question, Okay, if we believe and
I think you and I and we've asked this question
quite a lot on the program, but I would encourage
(12:19):
the larger media ecosystem that has suddenly realized what we've
been saying for years. Biden didn't have the mental or
physical capacity. We asked this question, who's the actual president
who was making most of the major decisions in twenty
twenty three and twenty twenty four. Was it Jill Biden?
Was it Freaking Hunter Biden? Was it Chief of staff advisors?
(12:40):
Who was the person basically deciding what American policy was?
And if you think that that's not an important question,
I would submit to you and maybe the most important question,
because whatever you think about Trump right now, look at
how rapidly he's moving. We need to talk about what
he's doing in the Middle East. It has the potential
(13:01):
to be revolutionary in a positive way in terms of
bringing more peace and prosperity to that region, in a
way that I don't know that we've seen an American
president who is trying to balance relationships in a positive
way with Israel but also with good faith actors in
the Middle East, and there are some trying to marshal
(13:23):
those actors on both sides of the Israeli and Arab
conflict and find a way to have a more lasting
peace in that region. Maybe it is improbable. I'm not
sure that it's impossible. And Trump is really, I think,
doing a hell of a job right now as he
travels around in the Middle East. Could Biden have done
(13:43):
any of this? No?
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Could Kamala have done any of this?
Speaker 5 (13:46):
No?
Speaker 3 (13:46):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah. Look, I think that this is now where we
have to see what the opposition is going to form into.
This is where we see what they're planning is. But
I can assure you they have They're they're running a
playbook here. They have not all of a sudden become
look at what they did, you know, out of one
side of their mouth, that's, oh, maybe we missed this
(14:10):
Biden thing. And then you see the DNC. Have they
voted David hog out already? Has that already occurred or
is that in process?
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I'm gonna be consus white male and it didn't comply
with diversity requirements, But I don't know. Really, it's because
he said the Democrat Party doesn't allow guys to like
go have fun, drink beers and like chase women or
something like that.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
And I remember we said it. I said, oh, he
sounds almost normal. They're like, get out of here, you
get out of here. Yeah, so they're they're not normal, everybody.
The Democrats have not become normal. They're still insane, and
their media propagandists have not all of a sudden, you know,
they have not found the light. Okay, so we are
onto it. We are not fool. We'll keep talking about it. Also,
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Speaker 3 (16:09):
Same thing.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
You know.
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the world stage, and Trump is already I think having
he's having a great week, which means the American people
are having a great week.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
The things that he's doing are good for the country.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I would just note I remember there are things When
Biden would start to celebrate, they'd be like, yeah, we're
just gonna pause all deportations for one hundred days, Like well,
that's a horrible idea, Like that's that's really bad to
just not enforce the law because you don't feel like it.
Or hey, we're gonna spend a couple of trillion dollars
that we don't need to on stuff that's going to
end up just pushing inflation through the roof, right, like
(16:49):
Clay this, those are objectively bad things. Trump is going
after objectively good things right now, trade deals, investment, peace,
so much so that I think his critics have a
hard time finding It's like, do you want there to
be a war with your run or something?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Like what exactly is is that issue here?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
But let's just go back to this for one second,
because you know, why not you didn't tell us what
you said about mister Tapper last night on Fox.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
I guess we could all go see it.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
But here is Tapper cut one saying when we come back,
tell us, but saying that he covered Biden's decline not enough.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
What do you think of conservatives now criticizing you and
the media in general for how President Biden was covered
during his administration.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
I think some of the criticism is fair. To be
honest of me, certainly, I'm not going to speak for
anybody else, but knowing then what I know now, I
look back at my coverage during the Biden years and
I did cover some of these issues, but not enough.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
I look back on it with humility.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Uh Nope, not good enough.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Not will I will.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Can we get the what I said last night? I
shared it on my Twitter account. You can pull it,
I'll play it and we'll discuss that as well.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
When we were talking.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
One of those things that you say where I look
like a two by four is being swung at somebody or.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
It was a little bit aggressive, maybe perhaps, but I
didn't want to run and hide from it, so I
tagged Tapper on social media. So I'm sure he has
seen it, and obviously it was on Sean Hannity's show,
which is kind of a big deal. So but I'm
not trying to hide from it. I think he deserves criticism.
I think you should have to apologize to people he
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Welcome back in Clay, Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us as we are rolling
through the Wednesday edition of the program, and I wanted
to let Buck here last night his boy Jake Tapper,
I tagged him a team, says. Tapper has not responded
(19:43):
on social media to this, but we played yesterday the
Laura Trump attack from Jake Tapper when Laura Trump was
saying that Biden didn't have the mental or physical capacity
to be president for four years, and Tapper said, that's
unacceptable and I'm pare for raising him.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
This is just a stutter.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
You should know better, and cut her off and didn't
allow the interview to continue. And here's what I said
about that. Last night. Sean Hannity played that clip on
his Fox News television show. He's broadcasting from Saudi Arabia.
I know he'll be on on many of the stations
that you guys are listening to right now, right after us.
But this is what our conversation sounded like last night. Buck,
(20:22):
get you popcorn. Has he apologized to Laura Trump yet,
because he should, since he's now trying to make millions
of dollars off of clear cognitive and physical decline from
Joe Biden, which he derided Laura Trump for rightly pointing
out in October of twenty twenty. Maybe I missed it.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Maybe I missed it, Sean.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Maybe Jake has come out and said, hey, you know what,
I apologized to Laura Trump. She was one hundred percent
right about all this. But I haven't seen it yet.
And I think this is so important because you me,
everybody out there who spent the last several years saying
what was clear readily apparent to anybody with a functional brain,
that Joe Biden's brain wasn't working. We were all called
(21:02):
right wing conspiracist. We were called crazy, diluted, cheap, fake pedaling,
disinformation and misinformation, lunatics, and guess what, never.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Right about it at all.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
And somehow we all knew, and all these people who
spent all day in the White House and spent all
this time hanging out didn't know. And by the way,
do you think that George Clooney they knew mosally, they recognized,
they knew. Do you think he didn't tell Jake Tapper
in June that Joe Bidenson recognize him. I don't buy
the fact that that stayed quiet in Hollywood.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Come on, they all knew.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Okay, said a lot of that yesterday on the program,
But now, Tapper's definitely seen it and heard it because
it's a echoed around on social media.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
But this is the point.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
It is, to me the height of arrogance to not
cover on your daily show the clear mental and physical
decline of the president as soon as he loses and
as soon as you don't have to cowtow to him
anymore to get the guests that you want, as soon
as you know that he can't do anything for you,
(22:10):
you come out and talk about all these things that
are going on that that you claim he didn't know about.
To me, the George Clooney thing, He's buddies with Clooney.
There's no way Clooney didn't tell Tapper, Hey, Biden didn't
know who I was.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
He knew all this.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Do you know that Tapper's position is that SEC football
should be abolished.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
That he and I are definitely gonna gonna have to
take it outside.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I'm completely making that up, but I just want to
get you really fired up if he comes on the show.
I don't want I don't want nice Clay. I want
Mike Pence evading the question, Clay. I don't want you know,
football friendly Clay. All right, So, plus who knows if
he's if he's even gonna come on at this point,
because I don't even know what what would be productive
about it, and I really want he could.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
He could say, I do think that if you are
claiming that you are trying to speak honestly to the
American public, when you screw up, you should own it.
And I don't believe that. Here's the problem. I don't
think this was a screw up. That's the problem, right,
Like this was intentional. He was trying to preserve his
access to guests by not speaking truthfully about what he
(23:18):
knew and in the event Kamala won. He didn't want
to be cut off from being able to talk to
Kamala's team because some of them overlap with Joe Biden's team,
and he was seen as persona non grata in the
larger media ecosystem. So he waited until there's no cost
at all for speaking truth, and then he began to
(23:38):
suddenly speak truth years after those of us who actually
bore the cost and were attacked repeatedly for doing so.
I mean, I imagine for saying, well, imagine if Fauci
came out with a book.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Now it's like my war against unnecessary lockdowns and masks.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Well, basically that's what Randy Weininger is doing.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
A tie, of course she is, but a tiny hero's
journey through the mess of COVID, you know, like that's
basically what the Tapper thing is here. You know, like
when the chips were down, when times were tough, there
I was Fauci saying, live your life, go outside, don't
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double Matt. I mean, at what point is it just
too much for anyone to bear? And I think I
think this might be backfiring more than the two authors
of this realized. You know, I saw Alex Thompson on
Twitter as well, Who's trying to tell people like no,
but that's like out of context and no, It's like,
why are you two meaning Tapper and Thompson well positioned
(24:39):
to be the ones that are now coming forward. I
don't mean you have the sources. Every Democrat journalist has
the sources. Why are you the truth tellers that we
should be listening to at this point, which goes to
exactly what you're saying, there's no cost. Now, you guys
basically destroyed the credibility of the media brands that we
grew up with. With the exception of you know, Fox
(25:01):
Talk Radio, Fox and Talk Radio, and you know, I
would like a little humility from some of these networks.
Like I think that some of these CNN hosts who
spent years you were banned from CNN. I'm still banned,
you are you know, CNN is like North Korea as
far as you are concerned, not allowed to set foot
even if.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
I said, I said that I supported the First Amendment, boobs,
and CNN has had me banned for eight years.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Now, I think that there's a lot of worse things
that have been set.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
On CNN than that.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
I wouldn't obviously, I don't take any of that back
because it was hyperbolically pointing out how much committed I
am to.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
The There is some irony too in a news network
banning you for saying, in part you like the First Amendment. Yes,
I mean I'm not, which now argues.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
That the biggest threat to the First Amendment, ironically enough,
of course, is the Trump administration.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Right like that. I'll also I like full disclosure.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I mean, you know, Tapper, I will tell you, especially
back in the Obama era and early in the Trump era,
very sharp elbows on Twitter. They're very nasty, very quick.
I mean, he's famous for sliding into people's direct messages
and and really you know, going after them saying things
about their career like not now. So if he comes on,
(26:13):
is that's a fall fair game? I mean, do I
get to ask him on this show? Have you ever
called the owner of another media outlet and tried to
get a journalist fired because you didn't like his position?
Because because I have numerous people who tell me that
he has done that. Friends of mine hasn't done it
to me, but friends of mine have told me in
this movement, in this business, that he has done that.
(26:33):
So do I get to ask him that question on
the air or do we just stick to the book,
which is one big pile of lies about how they
didn't know.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Well, look, I mean, I think anytime someone writes a book,
the credibility of the author is a huge part of
how you receive and respond to the work. And so
and by the way, especially when it's a nonfiction work,
we're not talking about some author who may have sordid
things in his past but also be an in credible,
talented writer. We've gone through the whole battle of who
(27:03):
can be canceled and who can't over what things people
have said or done that have nothing to do with
the overall quality of the work itself. And I think
in general you should judge the art, not the artist necessarily,
although that gets into a really interesting debate. But when
it's nonfiction, what you're holding out is you should trust
(27:24):
me uniquely because I'm writing what it is, Frankly, buck
is a first draft of history. So whatever we think
of Jake Tapper, eighty years from now, one hundred years
from now, somebody writing a book about the twenty twenty
four presidential election is going to use Tapper's book as
a source, presumably because there are people who have gone
(27:46):
on the record with him, like David Pluff, who said, oh,
you know that basically Biden screwed us, even though you
and I think the evidence actually reflects that the longer
Kamala was in the race, the worst she would have done.
They're all trying to figure out who to blame, and
ultimately the whole party, I think is to blame because
there's a lot of complicity to go around.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
The whole thing is they got caught. They tried a caper,
they tried a swindle, which was to fool. The Remember
the twenty twenty election was a swindle, hiding Biden in
the basement, the social media blackouts of the Hunter laptop story,
(28:28):
the shutting down of conservative voices on COVID, like, there
were so much They rigged twenty twenty, as we have
talked about a million times. Yes, so that's the only
reason they're able to do it. They thought they could
basically rig twenty twenty four again, this time just by
getting everybody to go along with this mass delusion. The
idea that Biden did not have dementia was a mass
(28:49):
delusion that they were trying to enforce on us. It
was nonsense, utterly nonsense. So yeah, man, I mean I
find it find it really rich that now are being
told that this is something that we're supposed to except
from the other side. I mean, I think real contrition
would be, you know, if you're gonna come on conservative
shows like this one. Again, we don't know if he's
(29:10):
gonna show up or not. And I don't know. I
go back and forth on this one. But Clay Clay
wants Clay wants to but I just I'm not sure anyway.
Point is say, why were you guys right how is it? Well,
what you know, if I'm really gonna approach us with humility,
what was it that made you guys know that this
was so clear and that he was not to know? Clay,
(29:31):
why'd you take your side of the bet that there's
no way Biden could follow through this like that?
Speaker 3 (29:35):
To me would be not Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
We tried so hard, but you know we just missed
this one a little bit.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Sorry.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
To me, this is always indicative of media takes credit
for breaking stories a lot of time that otherwise would
have come out right. And let me give you an example.
When a new superstar player for the New York Knicks
signs a contract. Eventually everybody is going to find out
about it, but they want to know who the first.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Guy is that's going to have it. Right.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
To me, there's some value in having things first, but
when the information is going to be widely distributed, that
isn't necessarily a big deal. To me, real journalism is
you write a story that, but for you, would not
have existed.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Right.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
That, to me is what the essence of journalism should be.
And you know, I mean, I've never thought of myself
as a journalist. I just think it's funny that, and
I would never I don't. I'm not a journalist. I
do have ethics, though, looks so funny. The whole point
of journalism is that you're supposed to have some professional ethics,
and what we've seen is that the people who don't
(30:41):
take on that mantle of journalism in a number of cases,
certainly everything in the Trump era, far more willing to
look at the facts and come to honest conclusions than
the quote journalists who are approaching this from some sort
of professional ethical perspective.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
It's all nonsense, you know. It also reminds me Clay
of remember how this was a great I want to
say that I was one of the earlier ones to
point this out, but it got a lot of people
figured this out early in Trump's first term. If they
were making journalistic errors, they would get some in Trump's favor.
But every story that had to be retracted, every single
(31:19):
one that had to be walked back or fact checked
and updated, was deeply negative for Trump. I mean clearly
negative for Trump, every single one. So that shows you
that competence would run in both directions if there were
simple negligence, and if this thing with Biden wasn't in
op Where were they Show me the one Democrat who
(31:41):
And I'll make it easy, I'll say the beginning of
twenty twenty four. Show me the one Democrat in the
media who came forward and said, guys, Biden can't do this.
He's too old. I've seen too much. One one person,
not a single journal. You're gonna tell me. None of
them had access to this information came out. None of
them knew about the George Clooney, I mean, give me
(32:03):
a break.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
No, you know it's interesting, Buck, I don't even remember
the guy's name. The one guy was the congressman from
Minnesota who ran against Biden.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Remember they had the one guy?
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Yeah, yeah, event Hams that nobody showed up for. That's
like what it was the strong point of his entire campaign.
But not only did they they they cold shouldered him
and treated him as an as an enemy of the state.
And here's the other thing I would say, you can't
claim that you uncovered a huge conspiracy when half of
(32:35):
the country was able to see that huge conspiracy and
knew it was going on. Like this morning, there was
a good article in New York Times. I'll give him credit.
We have a massive undersea under ice base in Greenland.
Did you know about this? It's like super fascinating. Two
hundred people lived there. It was a nuclear war base.
They just found it. Okay, that's something a lot of
(32:56):
people didn't know. You can read about it when half
the nation is like this guy's got major mental and
physical cognition issues. And when you and I talked about
it for years to then show up and write a
book and say, oh my goodness, this is the cover
up that nobody knew. Well, everybody knew, you just weren't
allowed to say it on your side of the isle.
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Speaker 2 (34:45):
Welcome back into play and Buck and uh, you know,
and just thinking about this play we're coming up on.
I think we'll be doing the show for four years
in in June. Here, that's right, and pair it up
here for four years, which time has flown and by,
and since starting this show, I have gotten married and
had a baby, which is very exciting. Your old hat
(35:07):
at these things you've been You know, you've been married
for how long you've been married?
Speaker 6 (35:12):
Now?
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Oh man, now I'm gonna get blown up. It'll be
twenty one years in August, twenty one years, got three boys,
twenty one years. I've been married like two years in change,
and I got a baby. So you know we're coming
at this from you know, we got the old grizzled veteran.
We got the new guy on the block with this.
But you know, you don't always give me the heads
(35:33):
up that I need on some things. Sometimes you do.
But one that I've.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Missed from you, Clay, because I expect you to give
me a early warning, is that no matter what I do,
no matter how hard I try, when my wife sends
me to the grocery store, I will fail to get
the right items. And sometimes she will send me there
and the item won't even be there, and then I
am really in a tough place because somehow I'm supposed
(35:58):
to still get the item that they're out of stock
on which my wife is amazing at finding out whatever
that would be, just like with a premonition. So you
didn't give me this heads up. It is a real
problem for husbands everywhere. I am sent with photos on
the rare occasion when I need to get something of
the product that I'm supposed to get because Ken, well,
(36:19):
we need to talk about this more. Maybe when we
come back we get the amount of variety. I understand
it's a great sign of American capitalism. But if you
go to get let's say, cranberry juice, I bet in
your average grocery store there are twenty six different versions
of cranberry juice, right like there isn't just like three
cranberry juices.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
I'm not kidding.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
I bet if you walk into your grocery store and look,
I bet there's twenty six different types. And what she
will do is I won't be able inevitably to find
whatever this specific brand and particular type of thing that
I need. I'll return say it's not there. She'll either
ask for a picture of the section to prove that
I am unable to find it, or she has then
(36:59):
some time has gone back herself to verify whether or
not the product that I was supposed to get is
there or not. I've reached the point now where when
she texts me sometimes she will just then text me
a couple of minutes later, like just forget it. I'll
go get it myself, And then that just ups the
ante for me, so then I want to try even harder,
but I always fail at the grocery store.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
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Appreciate all of you hanging out with all of us.
We have got a loaded program for you. We'll head
into the Trump Cabinet at one thirty with Scott Turner,
(00:41):
who is a House and Urban Development Cabinet member, and
then at two thirty we're going to talk about the
really it's kind of interesting ongoing.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Trial.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I'm not even sure what his official name is now,
Diddy of Sean Puffy Combs that is currently taking place
in New York City. It is not on television. If
it were, I think it would be must see television
because some of the revelations coming out are damaging personally,
(01:16):
certainly to Sean Diddy Combs. But is he going to
be sentenced to the rest of his life in prison.
We'll get into that with Paul Murrow, who has been
watching that trial. But Buck, here's the reality. The media
is ashamed, and they are so ashamed that they are
(01:37):
actually and embarrassed that they are actually turning into something
you never would have thought you would see. That is
Democrat attackers. They're actually asking questions of the Democrats out there.
And I think this drum beat is going to continue
for some time as the Biden revelations continue to come out.
(02:00):
Yesterday we told you that there was a discussion about
having to put Biden in a wheelchair and that Biden
didn't recognize George Clooney. Chuck Schumer got asked about this. Now,
remember there was a big New York Times piece that
Chuck Schumer was one of the people who finally forced
Joe Biden to step down. He went to his house
(02:22):
at Rehoboth Beach, had a face to face meeting with him.
There's some discussion that there might have been an ultimatum
given then, where Schumer said Hey, if you don't step down,
I'm going to go public and say that I think
you should step down. You don't have any support inside
of the Senate Democratic Caucus by and large, well he
was asked, Chuck Schumer was, hey, do you feel some
(02:44):
responsibility for lying about Joe Biden's mental and physical condition?
And this is what it sounded like. This has gone megaviral.
Chuck Schumer, not having a good few weeks in the
public eye, listened to cut two precedent.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
You have the influenced.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
George Funds. You mean to show the American look, we're
just looking forward.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
We're just looking forward, is the talking point. Here's another one.
This is CNN. Suddenly the journalists have been embarrassed. They
were in on the cover up, but they are pretending
that they were not, and they are holding Democrats feet
to the fire. Here is Cassie Hunt grilling Chuck Schumer
on Biden's mental state.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
I think this is from a.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
While back, next to Biden in the Oval office, February
twenty seventh, at twenty twenty four, just a handful of
months before the president took that debate stage. I'm interested
to know whether the man that you saw sitting there
on that couch on that day you were in there,
you saw him up close and personal. Did you really
not have any idea that he was not fit to
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serve a second term?
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Casey, we're looking forward.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
We have the largest medicaid cut in front of us,
we have the coll federal.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Government, all of this because you lost a presidential election.
And is that not Joe Biden's responsibility for deciding to
run again.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
We're looking forward, that's it. That's it.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Uh, And then Buck that this is I don't think
this is going to play very well. Hakeem Jefferies, who
is the minority leader in the House who would be
the House Speaker if Democrats are able to take back
control of the chamber in the midterm, also asked the
same questions here he is cut for.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
There's a number of different revelations coming out about President
Joe Biden's decline for recent books. Is it helpful for
your caucus for these to come out now?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
And would you want Biden to campaign for House Democrats.
Speaker 6 (04:43):
We're not looking backward.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
We're looking forward at this particular moment in.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Time, all right, We're looking forward, Buck is We're looking forward,
going to Suffice And here's why I do think it's significant.
We're in the middle of the big beautiful bill being
worked right now Congress. Almost no one is talking about that.
Almost everyone is talking about the timing here of this
book revelation and Biden.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
And Trump's big trip to the Middle East still underway.
Huge deals being negotiated, financial deals for this country's economy,
peace deals. He met with the new head of Syria
formerly in al Qaeda, and had a ten million dollar
bounty on his head, but now him and Trump are
hanging out chatting. It's a crazy world we live. Why
(05:29):
to come back quite a comeback, not quite a Trump
level comeback, but I mean that's a pretty big comeback.
So we shall see what comes out of all of that.
But yes, Clay, in the meantime, here's what I see
happening the Democrats. I don't think there's a strategy with this, really.
I think that they know that they have to go
through some internal purge and there's going to be a
(05:50):
lot of finger pointing. Generally, this can go one of
two ways, because nobody wants to be accountable, and nobody
wants to be held responsible for this enormous lie and
want us to be very clear. We know Clay knows,
I know you know. It was an OP, as in,
an information operation, as in they all knew that Biden
couldn't do this. They just figured maybe we can keep
(06:13):
the charade going long enough to just squeak out one
more win. And no one thought Biden was Nobody thought
Biden was gonna do all four years that I can
assure you, like, there's not a single person. I don't
even think Biden believed that.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
But I hate to say this, Buck, and I said
it before on the air. I'm not sure Biden's gonna
be alive by the time I hate to say it,
but I'm not sure He's going to be alive by
the time we get to twenty twenty nine.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Thank you, Captain Bummer.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
But yeah, I just, I mean, his deterioration not only
has been unable, I just I don't think he's gonna
be alive at the next I.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Don't want to hand a talking point to the other side,
but it is true in any of you who have
dealt with older relatives, or perhaps you've seen this, if
you've been fortunate enough to you know, live into your
golden years yourself, aging is not linear. Once you get
past you know, six sixty seventy meeting, you can have
a few years where everything seems like it's pretty much
I think stable, and then you can decline pretty rapidly
(07:08):
because of health issues.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
So that's one of the arguments that they're trotting out already.
I would note that they're saying, oh, but it happened
so quickly, like he was great and then just in
the election year. That's a lie. That's not true. We
all knew for all four years. But Clay, generally, the
move here is you either scapegoat or you do the
we're all to blame, right, the collective, which means when
(07:30):
when there's collective blame, nobody is to blame. I know
this from the CIA, like when it's the institution or
the machine or whatever. That's just a way of you know,
remember that guy who came forward after nine to eleven.
I can't remember a was it named Richard Clark, who
had been the National Security Advisor, And all the Democrats
were like, look at him taking blame for this, Like
the guy was on a book tour. When he's like,
(07:51):
we failed you, it's like no one actually thought that
he failed them. But it was a big pounds chess moment. Right,
we failed you means nothing. So there may be a
move for the Democrats that I think is the likeliest,
and you'll see that even from some of the journals
who are going around now making these arguments because.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
What they wanted to do was the scapegoat.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
The problem is Biden as the scapegoat doesn't make sense because,
as you and I have discussed, they should have known
and pushed him out earlier. They were in on this.
What they want people to believe is that Biden had
everybody fooled and that they didn't know until the last minute,
and in good faith they were just supporting their nominee.
The reality is they were in on the heist. Their
(08:34):
fingerprints are all over it too, and so that's why
the scapegoat maneuver, which would have been easy, which is
Biden's the problem, isn't really working because if Biden was
the problem, we all knew he had these problems. Why
did you go along with it until the debate.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I'm not sure, by the way, let's grab this audio
if you would, Boys and girls, I went on with
Sean Hannity last night. I'm not sure your boy, Tapper
is going to come on show after what I said
about him on Fox News last night, and I tagged him,
I don't want to run and hide. But we played
Seawn did the clip of him going after Laura Trump
(09:10):
when she said quite succinctly that Biden didn't have the
mental or physical capacity to be president, and Tapper said, oh,
this is disgraceful. You're going after him because he has
a stutter. We played that clip yesterday on the program,
and I do think there is now a major discussion.
It's not only that the media was complicit. It's in
(09:32):
the media's profiting on both sides, right. I mean, you say, hey,
Biden's still the guy, and you make money off your advertisers.
As soon as Biden's not the guy, you show up
with a knife and gut him when he's already Basically.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
This is what I said, like the this is like
the OJ book. If I did it, Here's how I
did it. And it was so appalling that everybody, finally,
I think, was totally done with any belief in OJ's innocence.
If you were dumb enough to think he was innocent
enough to that point, which very few people war But
I think it was just the grotesque nature of Oh,
now you're going to make make money off of millions
(10:06):
of dominitting, probably off of your your grotesque inadequacy in
covering him. Now you say, hey, there to blame, and
now you make money on that side too. Well, I
think you you've stumbled onto something that is critical and
I want everybody because Tapper is a very shifty fellow.
I have known through his work and we have had
exchanges and they have not been friendly. Uh for the
(10:30):
most part. He's very shifty, and I'm hearing now he's like, oh, well,
maybe I could have done more or something. They're going
to try to massage this, and he's going to be
the poster the poster boy, so to speak. He's going
to be the Oh, I'm leading back into a new
era of objective and neutral journalism. Right, this is the
brand play. You take a slap on the wrist and
(10:51):
then you come back. No, no, no, no accountability on this.
Accountability would mean you don't actually ever believe these people again,
because when it really mattered, they lied to you and
they knew they were lying to you. Right, If somebody clay,
if somebody you know cheats in the stock industry, right,
if somebody is engaged and you get you get an
industry ban. You look at this issue and the people
(11:14):
who were part of the Biden uh you know, the
Biden cover up essentially of his dementia. They're all planning
to stay in this business forever and as you point out,
even to get rich on it. That's that's not accountability
at all. And i'd also note this, you're hearing about
the White House. Oh, the White House covered this up. Yeah,
you hated this, And it's a really good argument. Who yep, who.
(11:38):
I don't want White House aids. This is again the
thing about collective guildt.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
I don't want.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
People were saying in the White House that he was
sharp as attack behind closed doors. Name the names. If
you won't do that, it's clear it's because you were
in on it and you don't want your co conspirators
to out.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
You name the names.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
And also the secondary part of this, which I think
becomes incredibly important, is who was the actual president? If
you actually want to do a deep dive on the
lies that were told surrounding Biden, then we also need
to be asking the question, Okay, if we believe and
I think you and I and we've asked this question
quite a lot on the program, but I would encourage
(12:19):
the larger media ecosystem that has suddenly realized what we've
been saying for years. Biden didn't have the mental or
physical capacity. We asked this question, who's the actual president
who was making most of the major decisions in twenty
twenty three and twenty twenty four. Was it Jill Biden?
Was it Freaking Hunter Biden? Was it Chief of staff advisors?
(12:40):
Who was the person basically deciding what American policy was?
And if you think that that's not an important question,
I would submit to you and maybe the most important question,
because whatever you think about Trump right now, look at
how rapidly he's moving. We need to talk about what
he's doing in the Middle East. It has the potential
(13:01):
to be revolutionary in a positive way in terms of
bringing more peace and prosperity to that region, in a
way that I don't know that we've seen an American
president who is trying to balance relationships in a positive
way with Israel but also with good faith actors in
the Middle East, and there are some trying to marshal
(13:23):
those actors on both sides of the Israeli and Arab
conflict and find a way to have a more lasting
peace in that region. Maybe it is improbable. I'm not
sure that it's impossible. And Trump is really, I think,
doing a hell of a job right now as he
travels around in the Middle East. Could Biden have done
(13:43):
any of this? No?
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Could Kamala have done any of this?
Speaker 5 (13:46):
No?
Speaker 3 (13:46):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah. Look, I think that this is now where we
have to see what the opposition is going to form into.
This is where we see what they're planning is. But
I can assure you they have They're they're running a
playbook here. They have not all of a sudden become
look at what they did, you know, out of one
side of their mouth, that's, oh, maybe we missed this
(14:10):
Biden thing. And then you see the DNC. Have they
voted David hog out already? Has that already occurred or
is that in process?
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I'm gonna be consus white male and it didn't comply
with diversity requirements, But I don't know. Really, it's because
he said the Democrat Party doesn't allow guys to like
go have fun, drink beers and like chase women or
something like that.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
And I remember we said it. I said, oh, he
sounds almost normal. They're like, get out of here, you
get out of here. Yeah, so they're they're not normal, everybody.
The Democrats have not become normal. They're still insane, and
their media propagandists have not all of a sudden, you know,
they have not found the light. Okay, so we are
onto it. We are not fool. We'll keep talking about it. Also,
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All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck, and we're
gonna talk about Trump in cutter or some say qatar.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Same thing.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
You know.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
You say tomato, I say Tomato, You say cut a Qatar,
I say cutter. And we'll talk about what he's doing
over there, because there are big moves being made on
the world stage, and Trump is already I think having
he's having a great week, which means the American people
are having a great week.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
The things that he's doing are good for the country.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I would just note I remember there are things When
Biden would start to celebrate, they'd be like, yeah, we're
just gonna pause all deportations for one hundred days, Like well,
that's a horrible idea, Like that's that's really bad to
just not enforce the law because you don't feel like it.
Or hey, we're gonna spend a couple of trillion dollars
that we don't need to on stuff that's going to
end up just pushing inflation through the roof, right, like
(16:49):
Clay this, those are objectively bad things. Trump is going
after objectively good things right now, trade deals, investment, peace,
so much so that I think his critics have a
hard time finding It's like, do you want there to
be a war with your run or something?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Like what exactly is is that issue here?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
But let's just go back to this for one second,
because you know, why not you didn't tell us what
you said about mister Tapper last night on Fox.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
I guess we could all go see it.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
But here is Tapper cut one saying when we come back,
tell us, but saying that he covered Biden's decline not enough.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
What do you think of conservatives now criticizing you and
the media in general for how President Biden was covered
during his administration.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
I think some of the criticism is fair. To be
honest of me, certainly, I'm not going to speak for
anybody else, but knowing then what I know now, I
look back at my coverage during the Biden years and
I did cover some of these issues, but not enough.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
I look back on it with humility.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Uh Nope, not good enough.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Not will I will.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Can we get the what I said last night? I
shared it on my Twitter account. You can pull it,
I'll play it and we'll discuss that as well.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
When we were talking.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
One of those things that you say where I look
like a two by four is being swung at somebody or.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
It was a little bit aggressive, maybe perhaps, but I
didn't want to run and hide from it, so I
tagged Tapper on social media. So I'm sure he has
seen it, and obviously it was on Sean Hannity's show,
which is kind of a big deal. So but I'm
not trying to hide from it. I think he deserves criticism.
I think you should have to apologize to people he
treated unfairly, like Laura Trump. Think about your home gutters
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Welcome back in Clay, Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us as we are rolling
through the Wednesday edition of the program, and I wanted
to let Buck here last night his boy Jake Tapper,
I tagged him a team, says. Tapper has not responded
(19:43):
on social media to this, but we played yesterday the
Laura Trump attack from Jake Tapper when Laura Trump was
saying that Biden didn't have the mental or physical capacity
to be president for four years, and Tapper said, that's
unacceptable and I'm pare for raising him.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
This is just a stutter.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
You should know better, and cut her off and didn't
allow the interview to continue. And here's what I said
about that. Last night. Sean Hannity played that clip on
his Fox News television show. He's broadcasting from Saudi Arabia.
I know he'll be on on many of the stations
that you guys are listening to right now, right after us.
But this is what our conversation sounded like last night. Buck,
(20:22):
get you popcorn. Has he apologized to Laura Trump yet,
because he should, since he's now trying to make millions
of dollars off of clear cognitive and physical decline from
Joe Biden, which he derided Laura Trump for rightly pointing
out in October of twenty twenty. Maybe I missed it.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Maybe I missed it, Sean.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Maybe Jake has come out and said, hey, you know what,
I apologized to Laura Trump. She was one hundred percent
right about all this. But I haven't seen it yet.
And I think this is so important because you me,
everybody out there who spent the last several years saying
what was clear readily apparent to anybody with a functional brain,
that Joe Biden's brain wasn't working. We were all called
(21:02):
right wing conspiracist. We were called crazy, diluted, cheap, fake pedaling,
disinformation and misinformation, lunatics, and guess what, never.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Right about it at all.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
And somehow we all knew, and all these people who
spent all day in the White House and spent all
this time hanging out didn't know. And by the way,
do you think that George Clooney they knew mosally, they recognized,
they knew. Do you think he didn't tell Jake Tapper
in June that Joe Bidenson recognize him. I don't buy
the fact that that stayed quiet in Hollywood.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Come on, they all knew.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Okay, said a lot of that yesterday on the program,
But now, Tapper's definitely seen it and heard it because
it's a echoed around on social media.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
But this is the point.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
It is, to me the height of arrogance to not
cover on your daily show the clear mental and physical
decline of the president as soon as he loses and
as soon as you don't have to cowtow to him
anymore to get the guests that you want, as soon
as you know that he can't do anything for you,
(22:10):
you come out and talk about all these things that
are going on that that you claim he didn't know about.
To me, the George Clooney thing, He's buddies with Clooney.
There's no way Clooney didn't tell Tapper, Hey, Biden didn't
know who I was.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
He knew all this.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Do you know that Tapper's position is that SEC football
should be abolished.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
That he and I are definitely gonna gonna have to
take it outside.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I'm completely making that up, but I just want to
get you really fired up if he comes on the show.
I don't want I don't want nice Clay. I want
Mike Pence evading the question, Clay. I don't want you know,
football friendly Clay. All right, So, plus who knows if
he's if he's even gonna come on at this point,
because I don't even know what what would be productive
about it, and I really want he could.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
He could say, I do think that if you are
claiming that you are trying to speak honestly to the
American public, when you screw up, you should own it.
And I don't believe that. Here's the problem. I don't
think this was a screw up. That's the problem, right,
Like this was intentional. He was trying to preserve his
access to guests by not speaking truthfully about what he
(23:18):
knew and in the event Kamala won. He didn't want
to be cut off from being able to talk to
Kamala's team because some of them overlap with Joe Biden's team,
and he was seen as persona non grata in the
larger media ecosystem. So he waited until there's no cost
at all for speaking truth, and then he began to
(23:38):
suddenly speak truth years after those of us who actually
bore the cost and were attacked repeatedly for doing so.
I mean, I imagine for saying, well, imagine if Fauci
came out with a book.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Now it's like my war against unnecessary lockdowns and masks.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Well, basically that's what Randy Weininger is doing.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
A tie, of course she is, but a tiny hero's
journey through the mess of COVID, you know, like that's
basically what the Tapper thing is here. You know, like
when the chips were down, when times were tough, there
I was Fauci saying, live your life, go outside, don't
(24:18):
double Matt. I mean, at what point is it just
too much for anyone to bear? And I think I
think this might be backfiring more than the two authors
of this realized. You know, I saw Alex Thompson on
Twitter as well, Who's trying to tell people like no,
but that's like out of context and no, It's like,
why are you two meaning Tapper and Thompson well positioned
(24:39):
to be the ones that are now coming forward. I
don't mean you have the sources. Every Democrat journalist has
the sources. Why are you the truth tellers that we
should be listening to at this point, which goes to
exactly what you're saying, there's no cost. Now, you guys
basically destroyed the credibility of the media brands that we
grew up with. With the exception of you know, Fox
(25:01):
Talk Radio, Fox and Talk Radio, and you know, I
would like a little humility from some of these networks.
Like I think that some of these CNN hosts who
spent years you were banned from CNN. I'm still banned,
you are you know, CNN is like North Korea as
far as you are concerned, not allowed to set foot
even if.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
I said, I said that I supported the First Amendment, boobs,
and CNN has had me banned for eight years.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Now, I think that there's a lot of worse things
that have been set.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
On CNN than that.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
I wouldn't obviously, I don't take any of that back
because it was hyperbolically pointing out how much committed I
am to.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
The There is some irony too in a news network
banning you for saying, in part you like the First Amendment. Yes,
I mean I'm not, which now argues.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
That the biggest threat to the First Amendment, ironically enough,
of course, is the Trump administration.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Right like that. I'll also I like full disclosure.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I mean, you know, Tapper, I will tell you, especially
back in the Obama era and early in the Trump era,
very sharp elbows on Twitter. They're very nasty, very quick.
I mean, he's famous for sliding into people's direct messages
and and really you know, going after them saying things
about their career like not now. So if he comes on,
(26:13):
is that's a fall fair game? I mean, do I
get to ask him on this show? Have you ever
called the owner of another media outlet and tried to
get a journalist fired because you didn't like his position?
Because because I have numerous people who tell me that
he has done that. Friends of mine hasn't done it
to me, but friends of mine have told me in
this movement, in this business, that he has done that.
(26:33):
So do I get to ask him that question on
the air or do we just stick to the book,
which is one big pile of lies about how they
didn't know.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Well, look, I mean, I think anytime someone writes a book,
the credibility of the author is a huge part of
how you receive and respond to the work. And so
and by the way, especially when it's a nonfiction work,
we're not talking about some author who may have sordid
things in his past but also be an in credible,
talented writer. We've gone through the whole battle of who
(27:03):
can be canceled and who can't over what things people
have said or done that have nothing to do with
the overall quality of the work itself. And I think
in general you should judge the art, not the artist necessarily,
although that gets into a really interesting debate. But when
it's nonfiction, what you're holding out is you should trust
(27:24):
me uniquely because I'm writing what it is, Frankly, buck
is a first draft of history. So whatever we think
of Jake Tapper, eighty years from now, one hundred years
from now, somebody writing a book about the twenty twenty
four presidential election is going to use Tapper's book as
a source, presumably because there are people who have gone
(27:46):
on the record with him, like David Pluff, who said, oh,
you know that basically Biden screwed us, even though you
and I think the evidence actually reflects that the longer
Kamala was in the race, the worst she would have done.
They're all trying to figure out who to blame, and
ultimately the whole party, I think is to blame because
there's a lot of complicity to go around.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
The whole thing is they got caught. They tried a caper,
they tried a swindle, which was to fool. The Remember
the twenty twenty election was a swindle, hiding Biden in
the basement, the social media blackouts of the Hunter laptop story,
(28:28):
the shutting down of conservative voices on COVID, like, there
were so much They rigged twenty twenty, as we have
talked about a million times. Yes, so that's the only
reason they're able to do it. They thought they could
basically rig twenty twenty four again, this time just by
getting everybody to go along with this mass delusion. The
idea that Biden did not have dementia was a mass
(28:49):
delusion that they were trying to enforce on us. It
was nonsense, utterly nonsense. So yeah, man, I mean I
find it find it really rich that now are being
told that this is something that we're supposed to except
from the other side. I mean, I think real contrition
would be, you know, if you're gonna come on conservative
shows like this one. Again, we don't know if he's
(29:10):
gonna show up or not. And I don't know. I
go back and forth on this one. But Clay Clay
wants Clay wants to but I just I'm not sure anyway.
Point is say, why were you guys right how is it? Well,
what you know, if I'm really gonna approach us with humility,
what was it that made you guys know that this
was so clear and that he was not to know? Clay,
(29:31):
why'd you take your side of the bet that there's
no way Biden could follow through this like that?
Speaker 3 (29:35):
To me would be not Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
We tried so hard, but you know we just missed
this one a little bit.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Sorry.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
To me, this is always indicative of media takes credit
for breaking stories a lot of time that otherwise would
have come out right. And let me give you an example.
When a new superstar player for the New York Knicks
signs a contract. Eventually everybody is going to find out
about it, but they want to know who the first.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Guy is that's going to have it. Right.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
To me, there's some value in having things first, but
when the information is going to be widely distributed, that
isn't necessarily a big deal. To me, real journalism is
you write a story that, but for you, would not
have existed.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Right.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
That, to me is what the essence of journalism should be.
And you know, I mean, I've never thought of myself
as a journalist. I just think it's funny that, and
I would never I don't. I'm not a journalist. I
do have ethics, though, looks so funny. The whole point
of journalism is that you're supposed to have some professional ethics,
and what we've seen is that the people who don't
(30:41):
take on that mantle of journalism in a number of cases,
certainly everything in the Trump era, far more willing to
look at the facts and come to honest conclusions than
the quote journalists who are approaching this from some sort
of professional ethical perspective.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
It's all nonsense, you know. It also reminds me Clay
of remember how this was a great I want to
say that I was one of the earlier ones to
point this out, but it got a lot of people
figured this out early in Trump's first term. If they
were making journalistic errors, they would get some in Trump's favor.
But every story that had to be retracted, every single
(31:19):
one that had to be walked back or fact checked
and updated, was deeply negative for Trump. I mean clearly
negative for Trump, every single one. So that shows you
that competence would run in both directions if there were
simple negligence, and if this thing with Biden wasn't in
op Where were they Show me the one Democrat who
(31:41):
And I'll make it easy, I'll say the beginning of
twenty twenty four. Show me the one Democrat in the
media who came forward and said, guys, Biden can't do this.
He's too old. I've seen too much. One one person,
not a single journal. You're gonna tell me. None of
them had access to this information came out. None of
them knew about the George Clooney, I mean, give me
(32:03):
a break.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
No, you know it's interesting, Buck, I don't even remember
the guy's name. The one guy was the congressman from
Minnesota who ran against Biden.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Remember they had the one guy?
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Yeah, yeah, event Hams that nobody showed up for. That's
like what it was the strong point of his entire campaign.
But not only did they they they cold shouldered him
and treated him as an as an enemy of the state.
And here's the other thing I would say, you can't
claim that you uncovered a huge conspiracy when half of
(32:35):
the country was able to see that huge conspiracy and
knew it was going on. Like this morning, there was
a good article in New York Times. I'll give him credit.
We have a massive undersea under ice base in Greenland.
Did you know about this? It's like super fascinating. Two
hundred people lived there. It was a nuclear war base.
They just found it. Okay, that's something a lot of
(32:56):
people didn't know. You can read about it when half
the nation is like this guy's got major mental and
physical cognition issues. And when you and I talked about
it for years to then show up and write a
book and say, oh my goodness, this is the cover
up that nobody knew. Well, everybody knew, you just weren't
allowed to say it on your side of the isle.
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Speaker 2 (34:45):
Welcome back into play and Buck and uh, you know,
and just thinking about this play we're coming up on.
I think we'll be doing the show for four years
in in June. Here, that's right, and pair it up
here for four years, which time has flown and by,
and since starting this show, I have gotten married and
had a baby, which is very exciting. Your old hat
(35:07):
at these things you've been You know, you've been married
for how long you've been married?
Speaker 6 (35:12):
Now?
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Oh man, now I'm gonna get blown up. It'll be
twenty one years in August, twenty one years, got three boys,
twenty one years. I've been married like two years in change,
and I got a baby. So you know we're coming
at this from you know, we got the old grizzled veteran.
We got the new guy on the block with this.
But you know, you don't always give me the heads
(35:33):
up that I need on some things. Sometimes you do.
But one that I've.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Missed from you, Clay, because I expect you to give
me a early warning, is that no matter what I do,
no matter how hard I try, when my wife sends
me to the grocery store, I will fail to get
the right items. And sometimes she will send me there
and the item won't even be there, and then I
am really in a tough place because somehow I'm supposed
(35:58):
to still get the item that they're out of stock
on which my wife is amazing at finding out whatever
that would be, just like with a premonition. So you
didn't give me this heads up. It is a real
problem for husbands everywhere. I am sent with photos on
the rare occasion when I need to get something of
the product that I'm supposed to get because Ken, well,
(36:19):
we need to talk about this more. Maybe when we
come back we get the amount of variety. I understand
it's a great sign of American capitalism. But if you
go to get let's say, cranberry juice, I bet in
your average grocery store there are twenty six different versions
of cranberry juice, right like there isn't just like three
cranberry juices.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
I'm not kidding.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
I bet if you walk into your grocery store and look,
I bet there's twenty six different types. And what she
will do is I won't be able inevitably to find
whatever this specific brand and particular type of thing that
I need. I'll return say it's not there. She'll either
ask for a picture of the section to prove that
I am unable to find it, or she has then
(36:59):
some time has gone back herself to verify whether or
not the product that I was supposed to get is
there or not. I've reached the point now where when
she texts me sometimes she will just then text me
a couple of minutes later, like just forget it. I'll
go get it myself, And then that just ups the
ante for me, so then I want to try even harder,
but I always fail at the grocery store.
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Dateline NBC
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