August 6, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show delivers a dynamic and politically charged conversation packed with commentary on the future of the Republican Party, rising crime in Washington, DC, and cultural critiques of the Democratic Party. This episode features SEO-rich topics such as Trump 2028 speculation, JD Vance endorsement, Democrat Party criticism, DC crime statistics, and media bias.
The hour opens with a preview of upcoming guests, including Miranda Devine of the New York Post, who will discuss the launch of a California edition and expose alleged lies of the Biden administration. Also scheduled is Texas Governor Greg Abbott, who will address the Texas redistricting crisis and the flight of Democrat lawmakers.
A major focus is President Trump’s remarks on Vice President JD Vance, suggesting him as the likely heir to the MAGA movement. Trump’s comments spark speculation about a JD Vance–Marco Rubio 2028 ticket, which Clay and Buck argue could consolidate Republican support early. The conversation explores the GOP’s deep bench of potential leaders, contrasting it with what they describe as the Democrats’ lack of viable candidates.
The hosts launch into a sharp critique of the Democratic Party, portraying it as a coalition of resentment, envy, and victimhood. They argue that Democrats have abandoned meritocracy and individual excellence, instead embracing identity politics and cultural decline. This includes commentary on Sydney Sweeney, media bias, and the lack of Democrat voices defending her against extreme accusations.
A significant portion of the hour is dedicated to violent crime in Washington, DC, with alarming homicide statistics compared to global cities like Lima, Nairobi, and Mexico City. The hosts highlight a recent carjacking incident involving a former DOGE employee (Big Balls) by a youth mob, and Trump’s call for potential federal intervention in DC governance. They argue that fear of being labeled racist prevents meaningful law enforcement reform, despite disproportionate crime rates in certain communities.
The episode also touches on Howard Stern’s rumored exit from SiriusXM, criticizing his shift toward COVID hysteria and anti-Trump rhetoric. The hosts suggest his influence has waned, and his show no longer resonates with audiences.
Throughout the hour, Clay and Buck emphasize the need for common-sense policies, law enforcement accountability, and cultural renewal. They advocate for restoring safety and pride in America’s capital city and call out political hypocrisy on issues like gun control and defunding the police.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in. We appreciate all of you hanging out with us.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
As we roll through the Wednesday edition of the program.
We got a couple of great guests coming your way.
Miranda Divine, our friend from the New York Post, which
now is going to open a version of the New
York Post in California.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Super interesting.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
They said their second biggest market was LA and so
there will now be a California edition of the.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
New York Post.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
But we'll talk about that and more with Miranda Divine
at one. She knows more about the lies of di
Biden administration and the Democrat Party than pretty much anyone
in the country. We will discuss that with her. At
two o'clock Eastern time, one o'clock in the Central time
zone where Austin, Texas is located, we will discuss with
(00:46):
Governor Greg Abbott of Texas the Texas redistricting mess and
the Democrats having fled the state and what the absolute
latest is on that story. So all of that is
coming in your direction. But Buck, I thought Trump yesterday,
first of all, walking around on the roof of the
(01:08):
White House was great, and we played some of those cuts,
but I was a little bit surprised this didn't get
more attention. There has been a lot of discussion about
what comes after Trump, what is the Republican Party going
to do, Who is going to be the next to
pick up the Trump mantle and run with it? And
so far Trump has kind of avoided discussing that very much.
(01:31):
In fact, he's tended to say, hey, that basically he
would like to continue to be able to run. He's
flirted with the concept of running in twenty twenty eight.
He's talked about it openly, notwithstanding the fact that there
are term limits obviously in play for him. And yesterday
he was asked, i believe, by Peter Doocey a question
(01:51):
about JD Vance and I think it is probably the
most intense or most furthest along the road of a
potential endorsement that we have seen.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I want to play it for you.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I want to get your reaction, Buck and also many
of yours out there.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I know it's early, but already the.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Discussion of what is going to happen after Trump is happening. Sorry,
this is Peter Doucy asking that question yesterday.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Cut to very launch, President Trump, Nice to see you
got off the roof all right, yeah, yeah, you said
this morning that you probably won't be running for a
third term. This weekend, Secretary of State Rubio said that
he thought JD. Vance would be a great nominee. You
could clear the entire Republican field right now. Do you
agree that the heir apparent to MAGA is JD.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Vance?
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Well, I think most likely, in all fairness, he's the
vice president.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
I think Marco is also somebody that maybe would get
together with JD in some form. I also think we
have incredible people, some of the people in the stage
right here. So it's too early, obviously to talk about it,
but certainly he's doing a great job and he would
be probably favored at this point.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
What do you think, Buck, I mean, I know it's early,
but the idea of a JD. Vance for President, Marco
Rubo for vice president ticket right out of the gate,
I think would forestall a lot of people running against
against JD and everyone else. Again, I know it's a
ways into the future, but this is the most expansive
(03:23):
that Trump has been on the subject so far.
Speaker 6 (03:25):
What do you think, Well, it's very Trump, he says,
too early to talk about, but JD's fantastic and would
be a great one and probably is the one, but
we can't know who the one is, but probably maybe
we'll talk about it some other time, including today. Yeah,
I think that the vice president is always considered to
be unless it's Joe Biden after eight years, but the
(03:46):
vice president is considered a good point. Isn't it amazing?
You would who would have taken the odds on Biden
will end up as president and Hillary will not for
the Democrats in twenty you know, starting in twenty fifteen,
when it was clear that Hillary will the well, it
actually wasn't that clear. It was Bernie and Hillary. Anyway
you get one of that, it.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Would play out the way it did. Would have been
a ten thousand to one bet because I think most
people would have just done basic math. You could have said, hey,
Hillary might have a health condition, she might have to
drop out. But if you would ask, in like October
of sixteen, when Hillary was a prohibitive favorite, what are
the odds that Biden would ever end up president of
the United States, you could have gotten him at an
(04:25):
unbelievable rate.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
It also, though, just goes to and this isn't this
isn't oh rah rah. Our team the other team stinks,
although that's true too. We have a deep bench. They don't,
and they'll pretend like that's not the case, but we
all know that that's what's going on here. Would JD
Vance if Trump blesses a jd Vance campaign when the
(04:49):
time comes. Remember it's not eight years out. It's a
few years out now, that's the thing. It is very different.
It's not like Trump has two terms to go. He's
got this term and that's it.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
It's a year and a half buck which sounds crazy,
But people will start officially announcing in like January and
February of twenty seven.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
Yeah, it's not that far out. But Jade Vance I
think would be a great standard bearer for the Republican Party.
I think Mark or Rubio would be a great standard bearer.
I think there are about four or five other people
you could throw into the mix there who whether you
love them, whether they're your top choice or your third
choice or whatever, they're serious candidates who could win votes.
At Ron de Santis, serious candidates who could win a
(05:25):
lot of votes and do very well in a national election.
And we still sit here and laugh about how the
Democrats what Gavin Newsom I think Kamala's finished. You think
maybe she makes one more run at it. Bernie Sanders
is too old. The two old thing is real now,
I think everyone. Renie, You're right. Yeah, in the post
Biden era, you can't just pretend somebody who can't walk
(05:48):
without assistance basically is going to be the president anymore.
And anybody who says old Trump's tool, as we know,
it's about the indicators you see of how someone speaks
and how they move, even more so than just their
Trump is running around making fun of how people can't
hit three hundred yards or whatever off the t's like
he can. Like Trump's doing great. So yeah, I think
that JD and Rubio would be the first that would
(06:10):
be the first team that most people would think of.
But it is very early clay and there's a lot
of baseball left to play.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I do think that to your point, on the Democrats side,
there is kind of a quiet panic setting in. I
think that's why they're reacting to the redistricting as they are,
and again it needs to be talked about more. The
way that COVID has realigned all of the different states.
(06:39):
You're an example of this. Leaving New York going to Miami.
The amount of power that is going to reside in
red states for generations to come, Democrats can't win. I
got a call yesterday. I don't know if I don't
know how it's gonna end up turning out, So just
be aware. I talked to a reporter from the New
York Times. He called you, said, you've been listening to
(07:01):
some of our show, and he wanted to talk about
Sidney Sweeney and the impact there. And one of the
questions he asked was.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
What you Your Times called you about this?
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Yeah, yeah, they're doing this.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I think they're doing a story about Sidney Sweeney and
the reaction to it and uh and.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
Right wing Sidney Sweeney slash First Amendment and boobs expert
Clay Travis.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
This is this is my wheelhouse. So I'm not saying
that I am the focal point of the story. I
think Sidney Sweeney is the focal point of the story.
But this show now has grown to the point where
I think people are like, oh wow, you know, Clay
and Buck actually talked to a lot of people, and
OutKick has obviously been outspoken on this and all those things.
But he asked me a question. I thought it was
(07:45):
an interesting question because I hadn't thought about it. He said, okay,
so you're pointing out all the left wing Nazism accusations
against Sidney Sweeney. He said, who are the Democrat politicians
that have actually taken an aggressive states on this? He said,
you know, President Trump has talked about it.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Jd.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Vance has talked about it. A lot of people have.
And I said, you know, it's an interesting way of
asking it because I said, whenever a Republican says something
ridiculous or someone who is connected to the Republican Party,
the media shows up and demands that everybody answer for it.
This is how you can tell how the rig job
goes on. I said, yeah, you may be right that
(08:24):
there haven't been a lot of Democrat elected officials reacting
to the Sidney Sweeney ad.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
But let me point this out. None of them have.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Come out and said, hey, it's crazy to call Sidney
Sweeney a Nazi. And what I was analogizing there is
at some point Gavin Newsom has tiptoed up to it.
But somebody is going to have to have the balls
inside of the Democrat Party to actually call out the
crazy wing of the Democrat Party, and so far everyone
(08:56):
is terrified of it. And that is where I think
kind of a quiet Hannick has set in, because who
is the truth teller who will say men can't compete
in women's sports? Pretty girls in gene commercials is not
the equivalent of Nazism. There is no vote voice right
now for basic common sense in any way.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
On the Democrat Party.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
The Democrat Party became and this really happened. It started
in the Obama era and I think reached it reached
its full it's pinnacle under the Biden administration. But it
became the party of people who are just, and I
mean people in the broadest sense, everybody, gender, race, everything,
(09:39):
People who feel victimized, don't take accountability, are resentful, are bitter,
and feel lost without a political party to give them
some sense of identity to make up for that whole
and that is not a happy place for people to be.
It's really the party of malcontents, which is not unusual.
(10:00):
I mean, they're the race politics of the Democrat Party,
the class warfare politics of the Democrat Party. All of that
goes toward people who are generally resentful of others in
some capacity. But I think now you've seen it more
than ever. The Democrat Party is full of a lot
of people who are just unhappy. Yeah, I know there
are happy Democrats. We're talking about, you know, one hundred
(10:21):
and fifty million people on one side one hundred and
fifty million people give or take on the other. But overall,
the ethos of the Democrat Party, what is the They
don't celebrate American greatness, they don't celebrate American history without
spitting on it all the time. They don't seem like
a happy bunch of people based on their politics and
what they talk about and what they focus on.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
I think that's well said.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
I would also kind of distill it in this way,
it's the Democrat Party has become the party of envy.
They wish that they had things that other people have.
I think the Sydney Sweeney is a funny example of this,
because every woman that has criticized Sidney Sweeney publicly on
the Democrat side is fat, unattractive, and ugly.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I'm sorry, it's just the truth.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
And it doesn't surprise me that the party that is
angry that people have more money than them would also
be featuring women who are angry that there are other
more attractive women. And I think in general the Republican
Party is the party of meritocracy. We tend to believe
that individual excellence over time wins, and that you should
(11:32):
be able to enable as much individual excellence as possible
in sports and politics and business.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
Something aspirational. Yes, the Republican Party celebrates achievement in and
you know this is at its most basic level. Republicans, Conservatives,
people on the right, let's just say the right. They
look at things around us and they say, Wow, that
person's really beautiful. Isn't that cool? Or that person's really brilliant,
that person's so successful. Isn't some how they get there?
(12:01):
How do we get more people to get there? What
led to that? Democrats see it and they say, you
didn't build that, It took a village. You're not as
good as you think. You have unearned privilege. They have
all these things, all these excuses, which which is why
increasingly I think you see people who are you know,
(12:22):
it's it's not just I know, there's a lot of
very rich Democrats, people who are happy in their lives,
with their choices. That's really the differend. I know, miser
you know, plenty of miserable, very rich people. Yes, you know,
I don't think JB. Pritzker, for example, is a happy guy,
even though he's a billionaire. And I could get into
a whole bunch of reasons why, you know, I think
he's I think he's a guy with enormous insecurities. And
(12:42):
you know, that's just one that comes to mind as
I'm talking to everybody. But uh, I think the people
who view their day to day and are feel confident
in who they are and what they do, whether you're
a street sweeper or you're a fortune one hundred ceo,
I think that they tend to lean right because that's
just the way they see the world.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yeah, I think that's right, and believe in the meritocracy
and individual excellence. And I do think that as time
has progressed, the Democrat Party has just become increasingly angry,
embittered and envious of people who have success that they
wish they had. And that's a very tough place to live.
It's also almost impossible to win a national election with
(13:23):
that prism through which you're seeing the world.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
Yeah, And I don't even the Democrat Party is a
coalition of bitterness. I mean, that's what at least that's
what it feels like. And people I could sit here
all day and get into Oh, we had to change
on now our movies all suck everybody. We know this
movies got really bad. What happened? Democrats had to change
who was writing them, who was in them? All this stuff.
Same with you know a lot of the new Netflix
shows and everything else. Fifteen years ago Netflix was doing
(13:48):
amazing stuff. You can talk about this in the publishing
industry too. Who's getting published? You know, it has to
be like you know, non binary Eskimo talking about the
challenges of I'm gonna get angry emails now they're like,
we're in you at not Eskimo.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Whatever.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
They've done this all over the place. What have they
made more beautiful, more exciting?
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Better?
Speaker 6 (14:08):
What have they look at what they've done to cities?
Have they made a more beautiful, safer, more aspirational or worse?
I could do this all day. We do a whole
show on just how democrats ruin everything they're in charge of.
And their philosophy is full. Their political philosophy is full
of bitterness and no accountability and.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Opposition to beauty. I you know, in both buildings in.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
Cities, inside of beauty as human beings, not just on
the on the you know, yes that too. Obviously there's
the Sydney Sweeney part of things, but there's also you know,
people who are tremendously courageous. And you know, unless unless
you're talking about race or gender issues, or or redistribution
of wealth or free health care, democrats don't really care.
(14:50):
And that doesn't really it doesn't really get on the
get on the radar. So what we're seeing is is
is reference in the data. Sorry, no, it's one hundred
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note that was happening last night. There was all this
stuff circulating about perhaps Howard Stern not continuing on at
Serious Radio anymore. It is not confirmed one way or
the other. I would just note though, that there seems
(16:41):
to be a very clear trend of people who went Trump.
He went all in on anti Trump and all in
on Covid hysteria and and really became like a shrill,
little old woman.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Amazing.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
This guy was like the shock jock, free speech guy
or whatever whatever he was posing as as long as
he did obviously made a tremendous amount of min He's
worth hundreds of millions, maybe a billion dollars now. But Clay,
they're talking about a five hundred million dollar radio deal. Look,
I've never seen the books at sirious. Obviously, there's absolutely
no way this guy's actually making one hundred million dollars.
We know the economics of radio and media. Zero chance
(17:16):
that he is earning out for serious if he is
getting paid one hundred million dollars a year with an
audience that is disappearing every day because he's not good.
It's just not a good show anymore. It hasn't been
a good show for a long time. I never liked it,
but a lot of people did.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
I think he only does three days a week now,
So in addition to the fact that he's been paid
hundreds of millions of dollars, his show just doesn't even
hardly does work very rarely now. And to your point,
COVID broke him. He didn't leave his house basically for
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Speaker 2 (18:58):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. We're rolling through the
Wednesday edition of the program. So we started off with
the discussion about, Hey, what might be coming after Trump?
Trump weighing in on who the potential heir apparent is.
This is actually, unfortunately a sad story and I saw
(19:20):
the data on this and I was just shaking my
head at the fact that it could have gotten this bad.
One of the guys who worked with Doge that was
called big Balls that the media had a ton of
fun and criticism associated with him being there. Young guy
was beaten up pretty bad in Washington, d C. Trying
to stop a mob from picking on a girl. Is
(19:43):
the report that I have seen that is out there.
And Trump weighed in cut three on the crime issues
that are occurring in DC. But right before I play
that buck end, Wokeness shared these numbers, and I do
think it kind of characterizes the degree to which we
have allowed the nation's capital to descend into a great
(20:07):
deal of DA.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
They were trying to car jack somebody. Just to be clear,
it was a carjacking attempt. It wasn't just like a
general harassment. They were trying to car jack a woman.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah, listen to listen to this data, because this is
in Wokeness. Capital city homicide rates Washington d C. Forty
one per one hundred thousand residents, which is an extraordinarily
awful number. And then listen to some of these other countries,
many of which I don't think we look at and say, boy,
(20:36):
they're really safe and incredible. Lima Peru seven per one
hundred thousand, Havana, Cuba four per one hundred thousand, Nairobi,
Kenya five per one hundred thousand, Brazilia, Brazil thirteen per
one hundred thousand, Lagos, Nigeria fifteen per one hundred thousand, Bogata,
(21:02):
Colombia eleven per one hundred thousand, Mexico City eight per
one hundred thousand, Adisa Baba, Ethiopia six per one hundred thousand.
All of those places, we are basically triple quadruple, quintuple,
ten times the amount of violent crime. The fact that
(21:25):
we are allowing DC to have the violence that it
does is simply unacceptable. And President Trump talked about that. Listen.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
By the way, I have to say that somebody from
those was very badly hurt last night. You saw that
a young man who was beat up by a bunch
of thugs in DC. And either they're going to straighten
their act out in the terms of government and in
terms of protection, and we're going to have to federalize
and run it the way it's supposed to be run.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I mean, I don't begrudge Trump making the decision, but
that rate of violence that I just shared, and Buck
and I both love d C. You've lived there, I've
lived there. The fact that that's been allowed to occur
and the Democrats who have run d C for generations
have not stopped the violence from ensuing is I never
(22:16):
had looked at it as a capital city in comparison
to others. It's simply unacceptable.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
Yeah, it's a mob of teenagers trying to carjack a
woman and this is far too common unfortunately in d C.
Because they're miners, we're going to get very few details
other than the ages of these individuals. I think we
can assume they were not wearing Maga hats for sure.
(22:41):
So you know, this is DC. We like d C Clay,
we talk about it. There's only one part. It's a
four section grid. Now some sections are larger than others,
but there's whole areas of DC you just don't go to.
It's just considered on I mean, there's no reason to
go for a lot of people because that's not where government,
where the jobs are, and it's considered very unsafe at night,
(23:02):
and so you just don't go. And it shouldn't be
that way. It's a shame because there are other cities.
I mean, you mentioned some of them around the world.
You know, Mexico has its problems where there are cartels,
but overall, Mexico is actually quite safe in Mexico City,
and you know, relatively speaking for a city of its size,
(23:23):
But you go to a place like like Tokyo, Japan,
and there's almost no violent crime. We don't have to
deal with this. The reality, though, is you have to
enforce the law irrespective of the demographic characteristics of the
people who are breaking serious laws, hurting people and committing violence.
That's it. You can clean this up really fast. You
just can't then cry about, oh my gosh, we don't
(23:45):
have enough Asian Americans in our prisons. There's a problem here.
We need to find some more Asian Americans to put
in prison. Well, no, they're not committing crimes. So that's
why they're like less than one percent of the population
at Rikers Island in New York and whenever the DC
jail is you know, it's not Korean immigrants who are
committing the crimes. That's for sure, Korean Americans.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
So that's it.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
I mean, it really just comes down to you either
enforce the law and the statutes that are there. And
I know people are going to say, oh, well, part
of the problem here is that miners know and you know,
some fifteen sixteen year olds they know that they can
carry guns, they can commit serious crimes, and they will
be effectively unpunished, meaning you know, they might go to
juvie for a while or whatever. Unless they murder somebody,
(24:32):
they're not going to be charged as adults. So they
can steal cars, they can you know, hold people up
at gunpoint. And this is what ends up happening in DC.
You get these these mobs of youth who you know,
I mean sixteen years old, I was like almost six
feet tall and one hundred and eighty pounds at sixteen.
Like sixteen, you can actually be very formidable physical present,
(24:55):
especially if you're a guy. But you know they're going
to act like their children, and they oh my god,
they can't be seriously punished, and this is what happens.
There's just lack of political will to do anything.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
I also think when you run through all of those
other capital cities, most of those countries, even if they
have extreme violence other places, as you mentioned Mexico with
the cartel violence for instance, they say we will not
allow this to happen in the capital city at minimum,
because they want the capital city to be seen as
a jewel and representative of the overall magnificence of their country.
(25:30):
Why would we not want the same in Washington, DC.
I mean, I have not heard this debate. I've never
seen the violence rates in DC put in context compared
to other capital cities. But I do think it is
an incredible black eye for the country. And we mentioned
this kid who got being up. I mean this hit
close to home for me because I did a couple
(25:52):
of weeks. You came for part of them. My son
was doing an internship. He's a just finished his junior
year in high school. Got shot in northwest d C.
Where you're supposed to be safe just walking on the
streets because gun violence among the criminal class is so
common that there are just gunshots spraying out all the time.
(26:15):
And this kid, I believe he was from Illinois, was
up for an internship during college, just walking basically down
a street at night in DC and he was killed,
murdered and he wasn't the target of the violent act.
But that's how common gunshots are. This is something that
I think Trump is right on. And Trump cares about symbolism,
(26:38):
he cares about beauty, and I think he sees the
nation's capital being a killing ground as a black guy
for all of us, no matter where we live, and
it should be cleaned up. And I speak as somebody
who lived as a resident in Washington, DC. You did
as well. It is a city that has the potential,
notwithstanding the fact that it is filled with Democrats to
(27:00):
be a shining city on the hill for many different
places around the world, including citizens all over the United States.
Trump's right on this. We shouldn't stand for forty one
murders per one hundred thousand residents. We should clean its
place up. And I think if we have to federalize
more aspects of security and protection in the nation's capital,
(27:23):
that's something that we have to consider and should do.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
You know, you look at the data which I'm looking
at right now, and I believe this is from it.
This is from the Bureau of Justice Statistics and US
Census Bureau data from the Prison Policy Initiative, and they're
taught and they're bringing just to be clear, they're bringing
this up to decry the racial disparity. So they're showing
(27:48):
this data to say, look at how unfair this is.
But the DC incarceration rates are per hundred thousand DC residents,
people in cars, the districts jails p one hundred thousand
DC residents. It's thirty three white per one hundred thousand,
(28:08):
one hundred and thirty five Hispanic, and five hundred and
forty three black, And there's no and all the rest
of the ethnic categories have actually basically.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Zero.
Speaker 6 (28:18):
I mean, there's effectively zero statistically, so you have based
on this the population. I'm trying to do the math
in my head, but I mean five hundred and forty
three versus thirty three talking about call it fifteen times
fifteen times the incarceration rate in DC. And that's for
a left wing group that's upset about it. My point
(28:39):
is they don't want to enforce laws because they don't
like what happens when they enforce laws, and so you
have more lawlessness. And you've seen this in every city well,
and it's a shame because DC has a vibrant black
middle class and upper middle class who a lot of
them work for the federal government, who are law abiding,
who deserve to have safe commun unities, who deserve to
(29:01):
go to school or go to work every day and
not worry about being robbed up, you know, because most
of the crime is happening in predominantly black areas. But
the politicians play this game. So this is why it
doesn't get better.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
And I'm glad you raised all that. This is an
example of where fear of being labeled racist actually has
incredibly significant consequences for black communities. Because the reality is this,
thirteen percent of the population roughly is black in America.
Over fifty percent of all murders in America are committed
(29:35):
by people who are black. That's the reality, okay, And
so for fear of being labeled racist, almost no politicians
will even talk about this. But if you truly want
to lower the violent crime rate in America, the place
where you have the most impact and could have the
(29:57):
most significant saving of lives is by focusing in the
black community. And you remember this as someone who lived
in New York. They attacked Mike mayor Bloomberg like crazy
for stopping frisk and saying, oh, this is racist, And
Bloomberg just said, what the data reflects that stopping and
frisking people all over New York City doesn't make sense.
(30:18):
Stop and frisk makes sense in places where violent gun
crimes are occurring on a regular basis. You can't stop
crime by stopping and frisking everybody who's going to I
don't know what's the highest in place in New York City.
You're more likely to the Harvard Club on a random,
you know, Friday. The crime is taking place in very significant,
(30:39):
known neighborhoods that's where the resources need to go.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
I mean, this is also stop. The real policy was
stop questioning frisk. They just stop and frisk to make
it seem more arbitrary, but they would ask people questions
and then if they thought they had a basis for
the search, they would they would pat them down, you know,
I mean padded down to go to the airport. I
could padded down when I go to sports arenas. I
(31:04):
cout padded down when I go when I've gone to
certain bars. Actually, yeah, prizingly enough, so you know, I
think that. Unfortunately, the left won that argument and the
Sorosda's got their way for a while and a lot
more people died. It is it is shameful that DC
is as dangerous as it is. It is entirely in
Democrat control. It is a ninety five percent Democrat voting
(31:26):
city and it just doesn't have to be this way.
And the people in charge should be ashamed, the people
making these you know, the prosecutors, the mayor, the head
of the police force. They should feel ashamed of their
inability to protect people who are paying high taxes, who
are disarmed. By the way, You're not only bad guys
(31:46):
get to carry guns in DC. I remember this Clay,
when I was going up to train with with the
DJ Shipley and his GBRS outfit, that I was flying
into Norfolk, Virginia, and there's well this one copy talk
because like, be careful. You want to make sure you
don't get flown into DC because of weather, because they'll
arrest you in the DC airport for having a handgun.
(32:07):
It's crazy, even though I've checked it and it's you know,
I'm like, they would arrest me because oh yeah, no,
they'll arrest you there. Shameless, shameless. The gang bangers all
can get guns in Virginia or wherever and just drive
across the river, but they take law abiding citizens and
they disarm them. So that's why Big Balls has to
step in with you know, a mob of dangerous youth
(32:30):
and just use his fist to defend a woman who's
being carjacked. These kids wanted to steal a car, and
Ali producer ally pointed this out. The most the most
that a youth, a youth and a minor can be
sentenced for a crime, even including murder, is detention until
twenty one. Clay, seventeen year old murder somebody in DC.
(32:52):
Most they can get detention center till they're twenty one years.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Old, and you know who they're killing. Unfortunately, by and large,
the data would reflect young black kids. So if you
truly believe that black lives matter, right, the number one
thing you could do is actually drive down the black
murder rate. Most people won't even have that conversation because
again they're afraid of acknowledging that race is involved. When
(33:19):
you look at the data and look, you know who
knows this, people who live in inner city neighborhoods. That's
why they overwhelmingly did not support the idea of defunding
the police. The people who wanted to defund the police,
as you well know, and many of you know, they
all live behind gates with their own security forces, including
this clown mom Donnie, who had his own security force
(33:42):
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up their own personal security details while they're arguing that
everybody else shouldn't have the police. That's the hypocrisy is
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Speaker 6 (35:02):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck got a lot of
calls coming in and from talkbacks. We will dive into
those now and coming up, and we've got Miranda Divine.
We're gonna talk to her about Russia collusions, stuff, Trump stuff,
you know, all the things, all the things with Miranda Divine.
And the third hour we have Governor Abbott of Texas,
the Texas govern will be with us talk about the
(35:22):
situation unfolding there with the Democrats who have absconded from
their state. Here you go, we were gonna get into
D D. Brian from I'm sorry, wait, let's do ff
Mike in San Diego play that one.
Speaker 8 (35:37):
This Mike in San Diego and Trump do that? And
the federalized DC. What's the rules surrounding that. What's the
mechanism that allows him to do.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
Yeah, it's it's a federal protector at Actually, Clay, my
understanding is Trump can he can order federal law enforcement
to deploy to protect the district. That's that's black letter law.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
And Congress has oversight of much of the DC budget
as well. So given the fact that Republicans have control
of Congress, they could also echo the president's decisions as
it pertains to trying to restore some sense of safety
to the streets. To your point, DC is divided into
four zones. Northwest d C, which is where most of
(36:23):
the tourist attractions are and everything else, is by far
the safest part of DC. It's where the capital is,
the lines right there in the Capitol, It's where the
White House is, Georgetown, George Washington University. All of northwest
d C is very nice. The other three segments of DC.
Crime is much higher Southeast d C. It's a disaster,
(36:43):
so a lot of people don't ever go to the
parts of d C where they are the most violent.
But Trump has the authority, you're right, buck, to do
a lot to make people safer there.
Welcome in. We appreciate all of you hanging out with us.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
As we roll through the Wednesday edition of the program.
We got a couple of great guests coming your way.
Miranda Divine, our friend from the New York Post, which
now is going to open a version of the New
York Post in California.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Super interesting.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
They said their second biggest market was LA and so
there will now be a California edition of the.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
New York Post.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
But we'll talk about that and more with Miranda Divine
at one. She knows more about the lies of di
Biden administration and the Democrat Party than pretty much anyone
in the country. We will discuss that with her. At
two o'clock Eastern time, one o'clock in the Central time
zone where Austin, Texas is located, we will discuss with
(00:46):
Governor Greg Abbott of Texas the Texas redistricting mess and
the Democrats having fled the state and what the absolute
latest is on that story. So all of that is
coming in your direction. But Buck, I thought Trump yesterday,
first of all, walking around on the roof of the
(01:08):
White House was great, and we played some of those cuts,
but I was a little bit surprised this didn't get
more attention. There has been a lot of discussion about
what comes after Trump, what is the Republican Party going
to do, Who is going to be the next to
pick up the Trump mantle and run with it? And
so far Trump has kind of avoided discussing that very much.
(01:31):
In fact, he's tended to say, hey, that basically he
would like to continue to be able to run. He's
flirted with the concept of running in twenty twenty eight.
He's talked about it openly, notwithstanding the fact that there
are term limits obviously in play for him. And yesterday
he was asked, i believe, by Peter Doocey a question
(01:51):
about JD Vance and I think it is probably the
most intense or most furthest along the road of a
potential endorsement that we have seen.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I want to play it for you.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I want to get your reaction, Buck and also many
of yours out there.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I know it's early, but already the.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Discussion of what is going to happen after Trump is happening. Sorry,
this is Peter Doucy asking that question yesterday.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Cut to very launch, President Trump, Nice to see you
got off the roof all right, yeah, yeah, you said
this morning that you probably won't be running for a
third term. This weekend, Secretary of State Rubio said that
he thought JD. Vance would be a great nominee. You
could clear the entire Republican field right now. Do you
agree that the heir apparent to MAGA is JD.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Vance?
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Well, I think most likely, in all fairness, he's the
vice president.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
I think Marco is also somebody that maybe would get
together with JD in some form. I also think we
have incredible people, some of the people in the stage
right here. So it's too early, obviously to talk about it,
but certainly he's doing a great job and he would
be probably favored at this point.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
What do you think, Buck, I mean, I know it's early,
but the idea of a JD. Vance for President, Marco
Rubo for vice president ticket right out of the gate,
I think would forestall a lot of people running against
against JD and everyone else. Again, I know it's a
ways into the future, but this is the most expansive
(03:23):
that Trump has been on the subject so far.
Speaker 6 (03:25):
What do you think, Well, it's very Trump, he says,
too early to talk about, but JD's fantastic and would
be a great one and probably is the one, but
we can't know who the one is, but probably maybe
we'll talk about it some other time, including today. Yeah,
I think that the vice president is always considered to
be unless it's Joe Biden after eight years, but the
(03:46):
vice president is considered a good point. Isn't it amazing?
You would who would have taken the odds on Biden
will end up as president and Hillary will not for
the Democrats in twenty you know, starting in twenty fifteen,
when it was clear that Hillary will the well, it
actually wasn't that clear. It was Bernie and Hillary. Anyway
you get one of that, it.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Would play out the way it did. Would have been
a ten thousand to one bet because I think most
people would have just done basic math. You could have said, hey,
Hillary might have a health condition, she might have to
drop out. But if you would ask, in like October
of sixteen, when Hillary was a prohibitive favorite, what are
the odds that Biden would ever end up president of
the United States, you could have gotten him at an
(04:25):
unbelievable rate.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
It also, though, just goes to and this isn't this
isn't oh rah rah. Our team the other team stinks,
although that's true too. We have a deep bench. They don't,
and they'll pretend like that's not the case, but we
all know that that's what's going on here. Would JD
Vance if Trump blesses a jd Vance campaign when the
(04:49):
time comes. Remember it's not eight years out. It's a
few years out now, that's the thing. It is very different.
It's not like Trump has two terms to go. He's
got this term and that's it.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
It's a year and a half buck which sounds crazy,
But people will start officially announcing in like January and
February of twenty seven.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
Yeah, it's not that far out. But Jade Vance I
think would be a great standard bearer for the Republican Party.
I think Mark or Rubio would be a great standard bearer.
I think there are about four or five other people
you could throw into the mix there who whether you
love them, whether they're your top choice or your third
choice or whatever, they're serious candidates who could win votes.
At Ron de Santis, serious candidates who could win a
(05:25):
lot of votes and do very well in a national election.
And we still sit here and laugh about how the
Democrats what Gavin Newsom I think Kamala's finished. You think
maybe she makes one more run at it. Bernie Sanders
is too old. The two old thing is real now,
I think everyone. Renie, You're right. Yeah, in the post
Biden era, you can't just pretend somebody who can't walk
(05:48):
without assistance basically is going to be the president anymore.
And anybody who says old Trump's tool, as we know,
it's about the indicators you see of how someone speaks
and how they move, even more so than just their
Trump is running around making fun of how people can't
hit three hundred yards or whatever off the t's like
he can. Like Trump's doing great. So yeah, I think
that JD and Rubio would be the first that would
(06:10):
be the first team that most people would think of.
But it is very early clay and there's a lot
of baseball left to play.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I do think that to your point, on the Democrats side,
there is kind of a quiet panic setting in. I
think that's why they're reacting to the redistricting as they are,
and again it needs to be talked about more. The
way that COVID has realigned all of the different states.
(06:39):
You're an example of this. Leaving New York going to Miami.
The amount of power that is going to reside in
red states for generations to come, Democrats can't win. I
got a call yesterday. I don't know if I don't
know how it's gonna end up turning out, So just
be aware. I talked to a reporter from the New
York Times. He called you, said, you've been listening to
(07:01):
some of our show, and he wanted to talk about
Sidney Sweeney and the impact there. And one of the
questions he asked was.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
What you Your Times called you about this?
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Yeah, yeah, they're doing this.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I think they're doing a story about Sidney Sweeney and
the reaction to it and uh and.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
Right wing Sidney Sweeney slash First Amendment and boobs expert
Clay Travis.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
This is this is my wheelhouse. So I'm not saying
that I am the focal point of the story. I
think Sidney Sweeney is the focal point of the story.
But this show now has grown to the point where
I think people are like, oh wow, you know, Clay
and Buck actually talked to a lot of people, and
OutKick has obviously been outspoken on this and all those things.
But he asked me a question. I thought it was
(07:45):
an interesting question because I hadn't thought about it. He said, okay,
so you're pointing out all the left wing Nazism accusations
against Sidney Sweeney. He said, who are the Democrat politicians
that have actually taken an aggressive states on this? He said,
you know, President Trump has talked about it.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Jd.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Vance has talked about it. A lot of people have.
And I said, you know, it's an interesting way of
asking it because I said, whenever a Republican says something
ridiculous or someone who is connected to the Republican Party,
the media shows up and demands that everybody answer for it.
This is how you can tell how the rig job
goes on. I said, yeah, you may be right that
(08:24):
there haven't been a lot of Democrat elected officials reacting
to the Sidney Sweeney ad.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
But let me point this out. None of them have.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Come out and said, hey, it's crazy to call Sidney
Sweeney a Nazi. And what I was analogizing there is
at some point Gavin Newsom has tiptoed up to it.
But somebody is going to have to have the balls
inside of the Democrat Party to actually call out the
crazy wing of the Democrat Party, and so far everyone
(08:56):
is terrified of it. And that is where I think
kind of a quiet Hannick has set in, because who
is the truth teller who will say men can't compete
in women's sports? Pretty girls in gene commercials is not
the equivalent of Nazism. There is no vote voice right
now for basic common sense in any way.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
On the Democrat Party.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
The Democrat Party became and this really happened. It started
in the Obama era and I think reached it reached
its full it's pinnacle under the Biden administration. But it
became the party of people who are just, and I
mean people in the broadest sense, everybody, gender, race, everything,
(09:39):
People who feel victimized, don't take accountability, are resentful, are bitter,
and feel lost without a political party to give them
some sense of identity to make up for that whole
and that is not a happy place for people to be.
It's really the party of malcontents, which is not unusual.
(10:00):
I mean, they're the race politics of the Democrat Party,
the class warfare politics of the Democrat Party. All of that
goes toward people who are generally resentful of others in
some capacity. But I think now you've seen it more
than ever. The Democrat Party is full of a lot
of people who are just unhappy. Yeah, I know there
are happy Democrats. We're talking about, you know, one hundred
(10:21):
and fifty million people on one side one hundred and
fifty million people give or take on the other. But overall,
the ethos of the Democrat Party, what is the They
don't celebrate American greatness, they don't celebrate American history without
spitting on it all the time. They don't seem like
a happy bunch of people based on their politics and
what they talk about and what they focus on.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
I think that's well said.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
I would also kind of distill it in this way,
it's the Democrat Party has become the party of envy.
They wish that they had things that other people have.
I think the Sydney Sweeney is a funny example of this,
because every woman that has criticized Sidney Sweeney publicly on
the Democrat side is fat, unattractive, and ugly.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I'm sorry, it's just the truth.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
And it doesn't surprise me that the party that is
angry that people have more money than them would also
be featuring women who are angry that there are other
more attractive women. And I think in general the Republican
Party is the party of meritocracy. We tend to believe
that individual excellence over time wins, and that you should
(11:32):
be able to enable as much individual excellence as possible
in sports and politics and business.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
Something aspirational. Yes, the Republican Party celebrates achievement in and
you know this is at its most basic level. Republicans, Conservatives,
people on the right, let's just say the right. They
look at things around us and they say, Wow, that
person's really beautiful. Isn't that cool? Or that person's really brilliant,
that person's so successful. Isn't some how they get there?
(12:01):
How do we get more people to get there? What
led to that? Democrats see it and they say, you
didn't build that, It took a village. You're not as
good as you think. You have unearned privilege. They have
all these things, all these excuses, which which is why
increasingly I think you see people who are you know,
(12:22):
it's it's not just I know, there's a lot of
very rich Democrats, people who are happy in their lives,
with their choices. That's really the differend. I know, miser
you know, plenty of miserable, very rich people. Yes, you know,
I don't think JB. Pritzker, for example, is a happy guy,
even though he's a billionaire. And I could get into
a whole bunch of reasons why, you know, I think
he's I think he's a guy with enormous insecurities. And
(12:42):
you know, that's just one that comes to mind as
I'm talking to everybody. But uh, I think the people
who view their day to day and are feel confident
in who they are and what they do, whether you're
a street sweeper or you're a fortune one hundred ceo,
I think that they tend to lean right because that's
just the way they see the world.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yeah, I think that's right, and believe in the meritocracy
and individual excellence. And I do think that as time
has progressed, the Democrat Party has just become increasingly angry,
embittered and envious of people who have success that they
wish they had. And that's a very tough place to live.
It's also almost impossible to win a national election with
(13:23):
that prism through which you're seeing the world.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
Yeah, And I don't even the Democrat Party is a
coalition of bitterness. I mean, that's what at least that's
what it feels like. And people I could sit here
all day and get into Oh, we had to change
on now our movies all suck everybody. We know this
movies got really bad. What happened? Democrats had to change
who was writing them, who was in them? All this stuff.
Same with you know a lot of the new Netflix
shows and everything else. Fifteen years ago Netflix was doing
(13:48):
amazing stuff. You can talk about this in the publishing
industry too. Who's getting published? You know, it has to
be like you know, non binary Eskimo talking about the
challenges of I'm gonna get angry emails now they're like,
we're in you at not Eskimo.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Whatever.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
They've done this all over the place. What have they
made more beautiful, more exciting?
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Better?
Speaker 6 (14:08):
What have they look at what they've done to cities?
Have they made a more beautiful, safer, more aspirational or worse?
I could do this all day. We do a whole
show on just how democrats ruin everything they're in charge of.
And their philosophy is full. Their political philosophy is full
of bitterness and no accountability and.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Opposition to beauty. I you know, in both buildings in.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
Cities, inside of beauty as human beings, not just on
the on the you know, yes that too. Obviously there's
the Sydney Sweeney part of things, but there's also you know,
people who are tremendously courageous. And you know, unless unless
you're talking about race or gender issues, or or redistribution
of wealth or free health care, democrats don't really care.
(14:50):
And that doesn't really it doesn't really get on the
get on the radar. So what we're seeing is is
is reference in the data. Sorry, no, it's one hundred
percent right. We'll take some of your calls you Rea act.
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Podcasts, and welcome back into Clay and Buck. Interesting little
note that was happening last night. There was all this
stuff circulating about perhaps Howard Stern not continuing on at
Serious Radio anymore. It is not confirmed one way or
the other. I would just note though, that there seems
(16:41):
to be a very clear trend of people who went Trump.
He went all in on anti Trump and all in
on Covid hysteria and and really became like a shrill,
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Speaker 1 (16:53):
Amazing.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
This guy was like the shock jock, free speech guy
or whatever whatever he was posing as as long as
he did obviously made a tremendous amount of min He's
worth hundreds of millions, maybe a billion dollars now. But Clay,
they're talking about a five hundred million dollar radio deal. Look,
I've never seen the books at sirious. Obviously, there's absolutely
no way this guy's actually making one hundred million dollars.
We know the economics of radio and media. Zero chance
(17:16):
that he is earning out for serious if he is
getting paid one hundred million dollars a year with an
audience that is disappearing every day because he's not good.
It's just not a good show anymore. It hasn't been
a good show for a long time. I never liked it,
but a lot of people did.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
I think he only does three days a week now,
So in addition to the fact that he's been paid
hundreds of millions of dollars, his show just doesn't even
hardly does work very rarely now. And to your point,
COVID broke him. He didn't leave his house basically for
a couple of years. I mean that's crazy.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. We're rolling through the
Wednesday edition of the program. So we started off with
the discussion about, Hey, what might be coming after Trump?
Trump weighing in on who the potential heir apparent is.
This is actually, unfortunately a sad story and I saw
(19:20):
the data on this and I was just shaking my
head at the fact that it could have gotten this bad.
One of the guys who worked with Doge that was
called big Balls that the media had a ton of
fun and criticism associated with him being there. Young guy
was beaten up pretty bad in Washington, d C. Trying
to stop a mob from picking on a girl. Is
(19:43):
the report that I have seen that is out there.
And Trump weighed in cut three on the crime issues
that are occurring in DC. But right before I play
that buck end, Wokeness shared these numbers, and I do
think it kind of characterizes the degree to which we
have allowed the nation's capital to descend into a great
(20:07):
deal of DA.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
They were trying to car jack somebody. Just to be clear,
it was a carjacking attempt. It wasn't just like a
general harassment. They were trying to car jack a woman.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah, listen to listen to this data, because this is
in Wokeness. Capital city homicide rates Washington d C. Forty
one per one hundred thousand residents, which is an extraordinarily
awful number. And then listen to some of these other countries,
many of which I don't think we look at and say, boy,
(20:36):
they're really safe and incredible. Lima Peru seven per one
hundred thousand, Havana, Cuba four per one hundred thousand, Nairobi,
Kenya five per one hundred thousand, Brazilia, Brazil thirteen per
one hundred thousand, Lagos, Nigeria fifteen per one hundred thousand, Bogata,
(21:02):
Colombia eleven per one hundred thousand, Mexico City eight per
one hundred thousand, Adisa Baba, Ethiopia six per one hundred thousand.
All of those places, we are basically triple quadruple, quintuple,
ten times the amount of violent crime. The fact that
(21:25):
we are allowing DC to have the violence that it
does is simply unacceptable. And President Trump talked about that. Listen.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
By the way, I have to say that somebody from
those was very badly hurt last night. You saw that
a young man who was beat up by a bunch
of thugs in DC. And either they're going to straighten
their act out in the terms of government and in
terms of protection, and we're going to have to federalize
and run it the way it's supposed to be run.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I mean, I don't begrudge Trump making the decision, but
that rate of violence that I just shared, and Buck
and I both love d C. You've lived there, I've
lived there. The fact that that's been allowed to occur
and the Democrats who have run d C for generations
have not stopped the violence from ensuing is I never
(22:16):
had looked at it as a capital city in comparison
to others. It's simply unacceptable.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
Yeah, it's a mob of teenagers trying to carjack a
woman and this is far too common unfortunately in d C.
Because they're miners, we're going to get very few details
other than the ages of these individuals. I think we
can assume they were not wearing Maga hats for sure.
(22:41):
So you know, this is DC. We like d C Clay,
we talk about it. There's only one part. It's a
four section grid. Now some sections are larger than others,
but there's whole areas of DC you just don't go to.
It's just considered on I mean, there's no reason to
go for a lot of people because that's not where government,
where the jobs are, and it's considered very unsafe at night,
(23:02):
and so you just don't go. And it shouldn't be
that way. It's a shame because there are other cities.
I mean, you mentioned some of them around the world.
You know, Mexico has its problems where there are cartels,
but overall, Mexico is actually quite safe in Mexico City,
and you know, relatively speaking for a city of its size,
(23:23):
But you go to a place like like Tokyo, Japan,
and there's almost no violent crime. We don't have to
deal with this. The reality, though, is you have to
enforce the law irrespective of the demographic characteristics of the
people who are breaking serious laws, hurting people and committing violence.
That's it. You can clean this up really fast. You
just can't then cry about, oh my gosh, we don't
(23:45):
have enough Asian Americans in our prisons. There's a problem here.
We need to find some more Asian Americans to put
in prison. Well, no, they're not committing crimes. So that's
why they're like less than one percent of the population
at Rikers Island in New York and whenever the DC
jail is you know, it's not Korean immigrants who are
committing the crimes. That's for sure, Korean Americans.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
So that's it.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
I mean, it really just comes down to you either
enforce the law and the statutes that are there. And
I know people are going to say, oh, well, part
of the problem here is that miners know and you know,
some fifteen sixteen year olds they know that they can
carry guns, they can commit serious crimes, and they will
be effectively unpunished, meaning you know, they might go to
juvie for a while or whatever. Unless they murder somebody,
(24:32):
they're not going to be charged as adults. So they
can steal cars, they can you know, hold people up
at gunpoint. And this is what ends up happening in DC.
You get these these mobs of youth who you know,
I mean sixteen years old, I was like almost six
feet tall and one hundred and eighty pounds at sixteen.
Like sixteen, you can actually be very formidable physical present,
(24:55):
especially if you're a guy. But you know they're going
to act like their children, and they oh my god,
they can't be seriously punished, and this is what happens.
There's just lack of political will to do anything.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
I also think when you run through all of those
other capital cities, most of those countries, even if they
have extreme violence other places, as you mentioned Mexico with
the cartel violence for instance, they say we will not
allow this to happen in the capital city at minimum,
because they want the capital city to be seen as
a jewel and representative of the overall magnificence of their country.
(25:30):
Why would we not want the same in Washington, DC.
I mean, I have not heard this debate. I've never
seen the violence rates in DC put in context compared
to other capital cities. But I do think it is
an incredible black eye for the country. And we mentioned
this kid who got being up. I mean this hit
close to home for me because I did a couple
(25:52):
of weeks. You came for part of them. My son
was doing an internship. He's a just finished his junior
year in high school. Got shot in northwest d C.
Where you're supposed to be safe just walking on the
streets because gun violence among the criminal class is so
common that there are just gunshots spraying out all the time.
(26:15):
And this kid, I believe he was from Illinois, was
up for an internship during college, just walking basically down
a street at night in DC and he was killed,
murdered and he wasn't the target of the violent act.
But that's how common gunshots are. This is something that
I think Trump is right on. And Trump cares about symbolism,
(26:38):
he cares about beauty, and I think he sees the
nation's capital being a killing ground as a black guy
for all of us, no matter where we live, and
it should be cleaned up. And I speak as somebody
who lived as a resident in Washington, DC. You did
as well. It is a city that has the potential,
notwithstanding the fact that it is filled with Democrats to
(27:00):
be a shining city on the hill for many different
places around the world, including citizens all over the United States.
Trump's right on this. We shouldn't stand for forty one
murders per one hundred thousand residents. We should clean its
place up. And I think if we have to federalize
more aspects of security and protection in the nation's capital,
(27:23):
that's something that we have to consider and should do.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
You know, you look at the data which I'm looking
at right now, and I believe this is from it.
This is from the Bureau of Justice Statistics and US
Census Bureau data from the Prison Policy Initiative, and they're
taught and they're bringing just to be clear, they're bringing
this up to decry the racial disparity. So they're showing
(27:48):
this data to say, look at how unfair this is.
But the DC incarceration rates are per hundred thousand DC residents,
people in cars, the districts jails p one hundred thousand
DC residents. It's thirty three white per one hundred thousand,
(28:08):
one hundred and thirty five Hispanic, and five hundred and
forty three black, And there's no and all the rest
of the ethnic categories have actually basically.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Zero.
Speaker 6 (28:18):
I mean, there's effectively zero statistically, so you have based
on this the population. I'm trying to do the math
in my head, but I mean five hundred and forty
three versus thirty three talking about call it fifteen times
fifteen times the incarceration rate in DC. And that's for
a left wing group that's upset about it. My point
(28:39):
is they don't want to enforce laws because they don't
like what happens when they enforce laws, and so you
have more lawlessness. And you've seen this in every city well,
and it's a shame because DC has a vibrant black
middle class and upper middle class who a lot of
them work for the federal government, who are law abiding,
who deserve to have safe commun unities, who deserve to
(29:01):
go to school or go to work every day and
not worry about being robbed up, you know, because most
of the crime is happening in predominantly black areas. But
the politicians play this game. So this is why it
doesn't get better.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
And I'm glad you raised all that. This is an
example of where fear of being labeled racist actually has
incredibly significant consequences for black communities. Because the reality is this,
thirteen percent of the population roughly is black in America.
Over fifty percent of all murders in America are committed
(29:35):
by people who are black. That's the reality, okay, And
so for fear of being labeled racist, almost no politicians
will even talk about this. But if you truly want
to lower the violent crime rate in America, the place
where you have the most impact and could have the
(29:57):
most significant saving of lives is by focusing in the
black community. And you remember this as someone who lived
in New York. They attacked Mike mayor Bloomberg like crazy
for stopping frisk and saying, oh, this is racist, And
Bloomberg just said, what the data reflects that stopping and
frisking people all over New York City doesn't make sense.
(30:18):
Stop and frisk makes sense in places where violent gun
crimes are occurring on a regular basis. You can't stop
crime by stopping and frisking everybody who's going to I
don't know what's the highest in place in New York City.
You're more likely to the Harvard Club on a random,
you know, Friday. The crime is taking place in very significant,
(30:39):
known neighborhoods that's where the resources need to go.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
I mean, this is also stop. The real policy was
stop questioning frisk. They just stop and frisk to make
it seem more arbitrary, but they would ask people questions
and then if they thought they had a basis for
the search, they would they would pat them down, you know,
I mean padded down to go to the airport. I
could padded down when I go to sports arenas. I
(31:04):
cout padded down when I go when I've gone to
certain bars. Actually, yeah, prizingly enough, so you know, I
think that. Unfortunately, the left won that argument and the
Sorosda's got their way for a while and a lot
more people died. It is it is shameful that DC
is as dangerous as it is. It is entirely in
Democrat control. It is a ninety five percent Democrat voting
(31:26):
city and it just doesn't have to be this way.
And the people in charge should be ashamed, the people
making these you know, the prosecutors, the mayor, the head
of the police force. They should feel ashamed of their
inability to protect people who are paying high taxes, who
are disarmed. By the way, You're not only bad guys
(31:46):
get to carry guns in DC. I remember this Clay,
when I was going up to train with with the
DJ Shipley and his GBRS outfit, that I was flying
into Norfolk, Virginia, and there's well this one copy talk
because like, be careful. You want to make sure you
don't get flown into DC because of weather, because they'll
arrest you in the DC airport for having a handgun.
(32:07):
It's crazy, even though I've checked it and it's you know,
I'm like, they would arrest me because oh yeah, no,
they'll arrest you there. Shameless, shameless. The gang bangers all
can get guns in Virginia or wherever and just drive
across the river, but they take law abiding citizens and
they disarm them. So that's why Big Balls has to
step in with you know, a mob of dangerous youth
(32:30):
and just use his fist to defend a woman who's
being carjacked. These kids wanted to steal a car, and
Ali producer ally pointed this out. The most the most
that a youth, a youth and a minor can be
sentenced for a crime, even including murder, is detention until
twenty one. Clay, seventeen year old murder somebody in DC.
(32:52):
Most they can get detention center till they're twenty one years.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Old, and you know who they're killing. Unfortunately, by and large,
the data would reflect young black kids. So if you
truly believe that black lives matter, right, the number one
thing you could do is actually drive down the black
murder rate. Most people won't even have that conversation because
again they're afraid of acknowledging that race is involved. When
(33:19):
you look at the data and look, you know who
knows this, people who live in inner city neighborhoods. That's
why they overwhelmingly did not support the idea of defunding
the police. The people who wanted to defund the police,
as you well know, and many of you know, they
all live behind gates with their own security forces, including
this clown mom Donnie, who had his own security force
(33:42):
following him around everywhere in Uganda. These guys never give
up their own personal security details while they're arguing that
everybody else shouldn't have the police. That's the hypocrisy is
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Welcome back into Clay and Buck got a lot of
calls coming in and from talkbacks. We will dive into
those now and coming up, and we've got Miranda Divine.
We're gonna talk to her about Russia collusions, stuff, Trump stuff,
you know, all the things, all the things with Miranda Divine.
And the third hour we have Governor Abbott of Texas,
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(35:22):
situation unfolding there with the Democrats who have absconded from
their state. Here you go, we were gonna get into
D D. Brian from I'm sorry, wait, let's do ff
Mike in San Diego play that one.
Speaker 8 (35:37):
This Mike in San Diego and Trump do that? And
the federalized DC. What's the rules surrounding that. What's the
mechanism that allows him to do.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
Yeah, it's it's a federal protector at Actually, Clay, my
understanding is Trump can he can order federal law enforcement
to deploy to protect the district. That's that's black letter law.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
And Congress has oversight of much of the DC budget
as well. So given the fact that Republicans have control
of Congress, they could also echo the president's decisions as
it pertains to trying to restore some sense of safety
to the streets. To your point, DC is divided into
four zones. Northwest d C, which is where most of
(36:23):
the tourist attractions are and everything else, is by far
the safest part of DC. It's where the capital is,
the lines right there in the Capitol, It's where the
White House is, Georgetown, George Washington University. All of northwest
d C is very nice. The other three segments of DC.
Crime is much higher Southeast d C. It's a disaster,
(36:43):
so a lot of people don't ever go to the
parts of d C where they are the most violent.
But Trump has the authority, you're right, buck, to do
a lot to make people safer there.
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