August 7, 2024 • 36 mins
Harris-Walz ticket is most left-wing of our lifetimes and in generations, but Dems think short election season will allow them to hide it. Why didn’t Harris chose Shapiro? Clay and Buck list the worst of Walz: Abandoned National Guard unit before they deployed to Iraq, covid snitch hotline, BLM riots, law removing kids from parents if they're not allowed sex-change surgery. Mother of Army reservist who went to Iraq with Minnesota unit Walz abandoned.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in everybody to the Wednesday edition of The Clay
Travis and Buck Sexton Show.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Ninety one days.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
That's what they were saying, at least Clay on morning Joe,
as I was drinking my Crocket coffee because I do
have my Crocket here this morning, they were telling me that,
and they were doing everything they could to puff up
the sense of historic conquests that they are telling the
Democrats they're going to have here with this victory insight.
(00:32):
Kamala Harris, Tim Walls not to be confused with Waltz.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Thank you to our Minnesota listeners.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
We realize Walls and we're living in an alternate universe now,
but that doesn't mean that we could ignore the people
who have created this alternate universe. We have to defeat
the madness. We'll break this down. I think that the
overwhelming sense on the conservative side of things right now
(00:58):
is what we were saying yesterday. I mean, I really, Clay,
you know all morning it's prepped for our show, and
then sometimes I can see what some of the sentiments
are from some of our friends and colleagues on the
right afterwards, and I did not see a single person
still who thinks that this is a smart pick, but
I want to break it down. I want us today
(01:19):
to get into the policy differences, the record and make
sure that we all have clarity on exactly who, not
just Tim Walls is, but also what this Kamala Harris
Walls ticket is really all about. I mean, this is
the most left wing and it is not an exaggeration.
(01:41):
It is not some you know, talk radio talking point.
It is the truth that this is the most left
wing Democrat ticket certainly in our lifetime. And I think
you'd have to go back to what Eugene Debs running
as a straight up socialist maybe, and even back then
the socialists were a little bit less crazy than the
left wing Democrats are now. But here we go. Let's
(02:04):
give you some examples of what we're talking about here
with Walls, they are presenting him Clay as a cuddly
coach and veteran who wears you know, lumberjack shirts and
goes hunting, and he's a different kind of Democrat. And
we're here to just remind every it's all afront all
a facade, what he looks like, how he dresses, if
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he chooses to go hunting on the weekends or not
does not matter. What matters is what does this guy
stand for? What does he do with the power that
he has been given by the people of Minnesota in
previous elections. The answer is he is a pro trans lunacy,
(02:50):
far left wing pro BLM, burning down neighborhoods in the
biggest city in his state.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Radical.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
That's what he actually dands for. He is the guy
who set up a COVID snitch hotline. Oh, somebody got
out of their house to go play basketball. They're a risk.
Let's lock them up, or let's give them a fine.
Call your police officers. It was nuts here he is Clay.
I mean, there's so much here to go after. Here
he is saying that this is where he's doing the
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whole folks. See the folks, see dance for everybody.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Oh, I'm just such a good old guy. You can
trust me. I'm a Midwestern guy just like you. Oh,
come on, this is cut four. Listen to this. Some
of us are old enough to remember.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
When it was Republicans who were talking about freedom. It
turns out now what they meant was the government should
be free to invade your doctor's office.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
In Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
We respect our neighbors and their personal choices that they make,
even if we wouldn't make the same choice for ourselves.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
There's a golden rule. Mind your own damn business.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
That's not the golden rule. But put that aside for
a second. The guy who set up the COVID snitch
hot line for people who wanted fresh air is presenting
himself as the for choice and for freedom guy Clay.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
It's just all a lie. It's all a facade.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
It's a total lie.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
And again, I think that is really important that he's
trying to pretend that he's for freedom while he's supporting
a candidate that wanted to mandate that everyone have to
get the COVID shot, even though we know the COVID
shot is effectively worthless. Right, I think even left wingers
now are who got five and six and seven and
(04:46):
eight of those COVID shots are like, yeah, it's basically
at best kind of a tie and all for COVID
and it hasn't really altered the trajectory of the virus
at all. And meanwhile, these companies have gotten fabulously wealthy.
But to me, what it is buck in many ways
is clarifying about Kamala Kamala is a chameleon. She is
(05:09):
trying to be all things to all people. Right now,
we are sitting at what day seventeen since she became
the nominee effectively, and she still hasn't done an interview,
She hasn't come off a teleprompter, She hasn't even done
an unscripted interaction with real voters in any of these jurisdictions.
(05:30):
They are trying to hide Kamala because they know that
she is a gaff prone machine that is actually pretty
unlikable when she is off the prompter. What is intriguing
to me is it's working so far, and this is
why I get nervous about this process. Thirty days from now,
(05:51):
vote start. So whatever the universe is in Trump VI. Kamala,
the snapshot of that universe is continuing every day. And
what I'm saying there is we don't have an election
day anymore. We have an election season. So if you're
popular after Labor Day, that gets locked in, that snapshot
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of that day gets locked in with millions of voters
all throughout the next ninety days. And so my concern is,
you gotta knock Kamala off that prompter. And I don't
think there's anybody in media that's actually going to argue
that she needs to do it, and they're going to
try to hide her. That's the entire campaign.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Now, will she debate or not is certainly a question
in all this. I can see Democrats. Remember I thought
Biden wouldn't debate, and let me be clear, he shouldn't
have debated. Had he not debated, he would be the
nominee and I would be picking out an overpriced piece
of meat that Clay would be buying for me at
a fancy establishment instead of the other way around. Joe
(06:58):
should not have debated. That was a huge obvious error.
Now should Kamala debate? I think it's different for her Clay,
because first of all, she's been calling out Trump for
not debating her right, so it will look bad to
there's what's right and there's what perception will be. It's
clearly absurd for her to call Trump out and then
(07:20):
walk away from a debate herself. But I also think
that this is where what's right and perception line up.
People would say, come on, that's wimpy. You don't get
to play this game where you call out somebody and
say I want to debate you and then they say Okay,
let's do it, and you go, oh, actually, I don't
so I think she would run a risk there. I
do know that they're going to do everything possible to
keep this as stage crafted and managed as tightly as
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they can. You know, they've got David Pluff, who is
a senior Obama campaign guy now, who's like top advisor
for the Kamala campaign. Some of the Obama you know,
top echelon have all jumped in now to get involved
with Kamala. So they're they're throwing a lot of heavyweight
behind this. She's raised more money in one month than
(08:06):
I think any person ever. But it's not really a
fair comparison because it's like she started a new campaign
with two months to go. Like, you're gonna have to
condense all that money. Everyone knows that, right, I mean,
you're just condensing, you know, isn't it like like Nascar
is once a week, so Nascar ratings versus Baseball ratings.
Baseball is like every five seconds, right, So it's yes,
not fair to compare one to one on the ratings.
(08:27):
See I just did sports now, Klay's proud, you're concerned.
Here's why I'm less concerned, or I would even say
I'm I'm not concerned.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I think Trump's gonna win. Here's why.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I think Kamala is at her absolute peak right about
this week into next week. I think this is the
highest she's ever gonna go. I think there's nowhere to
go but down and being within the margin of error
for a Democrat candidate who has the whole machine behind her,
I don't think it's gonna cut it. That's my Rose scenario,
(09:00):
but that's what I believe.
Speaker 6 (09:02):
I think that they're going to do one debate. I
think that it'll be a fairly standard presidential debate, by
which I mean both sides come out saying our side one.
It's like a boxing match where both guys raise their
hands above the end of the air afterwards, and then
(09:24):
you know, the judges at MSNBC are going to talk
about how amazing Kamala was. The judges at Fox News
are going to talk about how good Trump was. And
it's in that sixty forty realm where it's hard to
really argue that you got to knock out or that
it massively impacts.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
The direction of the race one way or the other.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
That's my expectation on what a debate between the two
would be like and so, and then I think they
go back to claiming victory putting Kamala on a teleprompter.
My concern, this is my big concern structurally for the race.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Right now.
Speaker 6 (09:59):
Trump is due doing media everywhere. He called into Fox
and Friends this morning. I think he took calls from
random people on Fox and Friends asking him questions, which,
by the way, he's asked about doing on this show
before and maybe we'll do.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
At some point.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
I think that explains and demonstrates his facility and talent
to be on his feet responding to real voter questions.
The problem is, whenever he colors a little bit outside
the line, the media reacts as if it is an
astounding statement that he has made, and we get a
(10:36):
ton of coverage from people saying, oh, look, Trump is
a malignant dictator all over again. Meanwhile, Kamala just reads
off a teleprompter, doesn't say anything. They're not playing the
same style game. And my concern is that the Kamala
hider in the basement campaign that they perfected using COVID
(10:59):
as an ex use in twenty twenty, and that on
some level they used for Fetterman in twenty twenty two
is the road map, and that might be enough to
get her across the finish line.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Here's here's my.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
What what keeps me from falling down into the pit
of Clay's despair?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Over here?
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Okay, here's what I've Here's what I've got in the
back of my mind. Joe Biden for all of his faults,
all of his flaws, all his shortcomings, which we discussed
in detail on this show, for every year and every
day of his presidency, apart from the sinility issue entirely.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
We discussed you know that he's he's really.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Kind of fake, and he's you know, he's actually not
a nice guy, and there's all these things he says
anything and fine.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
He's the he's really the prototypical politician.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
When you think of a politician in a negative context,
you know, it's like if you think of an ambulance
chasing lawyer, you think of like better call Saul, or
somebody who just will do anything and you know, desperate
to get that next client and to lie and have
them wear the brace in court. Biden's like the quintessential
slimy politician. However, his whole story of being Scranton Joe,
(12:10):
riding the chu Chuo with his lunch pale, loving the
union folks, and being one of the union guys that
resonated enough in some parts of Pennsylvania, some parts of Michigan,
some parts of Wisconsin that he did better than expected
in twenty twenty with the white working class voters. Okay,
(12:31):
with those white working class voters. I cannot see a
world in which those voters, and I bet we have
some listening to us who maybe went Trump, then Biden
and now are thinking what am I going to do?
I do not see Kamala Harris winning them, and therefore
I do not see how she has a has a
She obviously has a path, but I do not see
(12:52):
her winning Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin. I do not see it
happening based on that one demographic. I know, there's women,
and there's all these other things that there's the minority vote,
there's all these things we can talk about. I think
that Kamala is weak on the white working class vote.
And I think that I mean non college educated another
way of saying, really the same, that's the demographic, right,
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non college educated white guys with jobs, and a lot
a lot of them listen right now, Our on are
part of our audience. I don't think they apart from
the super solid conservatives. I'm talking about the ones who
are independence, I don't think that they see Kamala Harris
and want to cast a vote for And I don't
think Walls changes this.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Does that make me feel a little better.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
Walls is a bad pick that made me feel better yesterday.
The concern that I have is I don't know that
Kamala is ever going to actually answer questions from anyone,
and as a result, I don't know what the major
potholes are for her. Like I don't think Trump benefited
(13:56):
from doing me an ABJ. I think that that substantially
hurt his campaign. But Kamala didn't do the NABJ, and
she benefited from what Trump's doing that she's unwilling to
do again. They're playing by a different set of rules
and that's my concern, and I'm gonna tell on ninety
(14:18):
days I agree with you absolutely on the NABJ. The
Black Americans who are going to vote for Trump are
already going to vote for Trump. He shouldn't waste his
time chasing more black votes between now and the election
as a concerted effort. There are some great Americans who
are black are going to vote for Trump.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
And that's fantastic and hopefully I'm not saying maybe the
numbers even bigger than has been the past. I'm just
saying he's not winning any of that. He's not winning
any substantial percentage of the black vote between now an
election day. He's getting the percentage of the black vote
in ninety days that he was going to get yesterday.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Yeah, that's not a worthwhile endeavor for him.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
He should be doing the Trump thing, going after white
working class voters in the swing states, buying them big max,
giving them high fives, talking about how he's going to
be tough on China, talking about how he's going to
have a booming economy that helps them afford their groceries,
that helps them pay their rent or their mortgage, and
(15:16):
helps them maybe save up and buy that business of
their own that they get to run, whatever it may be.
You know what I mean, that's if I'm Trump. That's Oh,
and talk about immigration a lot. I mean, I totally
agree with you on the top three topics.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
Top three issues, Crime, over and over again.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
But he should be.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Going to tell guys who you know, a lot of
the time make a living with a hard hat on,
or you know, we got the truckers, welders, plumbers. He
needs to be telling them in the Swing States, I'm
your guy, because he is their guy. Walls is a
phony and we're going to talk more about that here
in just a second. Look, you're gonna hear Kamala Harris
(15:53):
use words like women's reproductive rights a lot in this campaign.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
She said it, she says it all the time.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I'm actually and what you won't hear are her talking
about the rights of babies that are unborn. That's not
going to happen. So we know what the Democrat Party
stands for. We know what Kamala and Walls and these
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All right, let's get down to brass tacks, shall we,
with this Walls character, this guy next door communists. All right,
(19:07):
I see exactly what's going on here. We're gonna talk
about it a bit today because obviously it's still very
much in the news. I think that this is all
gonna switch back by next week to because the jd
Vance pick just happened pretty recently, what two weeks ago?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Now?
Speaker 1 (19:24):
The Tim Wall's pick happened yesterday, so we and it
was a surprise. So I will say one one quick
thing before I get into the worst of Walls and
you and I, you know, you and I I'm not
sure we see. I think our top three is going
to be the same. I think the order of our
top three may be different. So let's see three worst
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things about Wall. That's a good question from our perspectives. Yes,
So I'll give you my three worst in order, and
then I think, you know, we can we can hear
from you. Also, we'll have just you know, Miranda Devine
joining us later on the program from the New York Post.
She's got great column on this end. And our friend
Sean Parnell in the second hour, because they're playing up
the veteran angle a lot for Walls. Sean is a
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combat veteran. Sean saw very heavy combat in Afghanistan, wrote
a memoir, best selling memoir about it called Outlaw Platoon.
Shawn's as real deal as it gets. We're going to
talk to him about this because Walls, well, I don't
want to get ahead of myself, but a lot of
people in the veteran community are saying.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Well, hold on a second.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yes, he served, but there's a thing that's interesting or
problematic perhaps about his service. So we'll get into this
with Sean as well. But first off, I thought this
was really interesting. I did believe and this is why
it all happened so fast. And my sources about Democrat
stuff are obviously at time. I mean, look, I do
(20:45):
watch Morning Joe, so I feel plugged in Clay, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
I mean, Mika and I.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
They are probably I'm trying to think of a phrase
I can use that isn't aggressively borderline. They are probably
proved that they have no gag reflex with Tim Walls
as the nominee. I bet that they think that basically
he is Santa Claus come to life for Democrats. I mean,
I have not watched it, yeah, that coverage, but I
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watched it all morning. I mean, they're they're glee and
also they're just it's all about how positive he is
and positive for the future, and it's a campaign of
hopefulness and it's and it's so great. And they say
that unlike Trump, who always says how terrible America is,
which is one of the one of the really dishonest
attacks on Trump that Democrats have been lodging for a
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long time. No, he says the Democrats make make stupid
decisions and ruin things, particularly major cities. That is true.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
But Trump understands also the greatness of America, which is
why he is still very much running and I think
still going to win if he stays focused and disciplined.
There is an asterisk if he stays focused and disciplined,
and the whole Republican Party does too. And make sure
that the Shenanigans either don't happen or are caught red
handed in a way that can be taken to any
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honest court and given a real hearing on it. So anyway,
what I wanted to get into, though, Clay, was Josh
Shapiro not to be confused with Ben Josh Shapiro. Which
that was a fun headline from the Babylon Bee. It's
just it's like, how could things get crazier?
Speaker 8 (22:22):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Well, if Ben Shapiro was the VP, I know he
wouldn't be. It's just kind of funny. Josh Shapiro, Why
didn't he get it?
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Did you see this? This is from left wing sources?
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Yeah, yeah, I read this.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Kamala didn't want to be overshadowed. I think that Kamala's
insecurity and vanity may have been the prime mover here,
the primary decision maker that pushed her away from Shapiro,
which you and I were both concerned about. As as
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how that would I do think that that would make
Pennsylvania very hard to win. I think that her vanity
may have made her go with Walls, and this might
have been the the mistake that shows what else is coming.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
That's why to me and I will dive into Walls
because I do think it's important. Most people don't know him,
what does he represent? All of those things, But the
VP pick tells you more about the president and his
thought process and what he sees from a strategic perspective
or she sees than anything else. And so to me,
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Kamala not standing up to the left wing of her
party and not being willing to say Josh Shapiro is
the pick. Let me ask you this, buck. If Josh
Shapiro's last name, I saw someone tweet this might have
been at Aary Fleischer. If Josh Shapiro's last name was Walls,
and if Tim Wall's last name was Shapiro and they
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were otherwise the exact same biography, is there any doubt
that Kamala picks Shapiro Walls, that is, the Pennsylvania governor
who isn't Jewish. In other words, I think if if
Shapiro is Christian, he is the pick, even if Kamala
is unhappy or uncomfortable with his star appeal, because ultimately
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she's still the president. I think the only reason Josh
Shapiro wasn't picked is because he's Jewish and there is
a strong anti Semitic left wing base that would have
refused to come out and support him aggressively. You buy
that if Josh Shapiro were just a Christian guy, make
his last name walls, flip them. Is there any way
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that Kamala still makes the same pick.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I think that's I think your analysis is sound, but
I can't necessarily get to the definitive conclusion because I
think the Kamala.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Factor here is very is very powerful.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I do buy security playing in here, too, That she
is an insecure leader, yes, And I think that she
probably has advises around her telling her that it's all
gonna come down to her anyway, and that all that
matters is that she like this VP and have good
chemistry with him. And I think that's how. I think
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that's how the situation unfolded, because otherwise it's from a
If you're sitting at a table strategically, this is not
the smart move, right, If you're just having the nuts
and bolts of what is most likely, what is the
most likely action to bring about a win?
Speaker 2 (25:37):
I think this is clearly not not the case. But
I honestly think no.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Let me let me say this too. I'm curious if
you would buy in.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
Sometimes you overthink things and you move away from your
natural reaction, and your instincts end up being overridden by
over analysis. Have you seen this happen a bunch where
like on a flash, you look at something and you're like,
this is the pick, and then you look at the
binders and you listen to everybody talk for a long time,
(26:07):
and you end up overthinking an issue. I also think
that might be in play here because Shapiro is such
a no brainer pick that I actually think they over
analyzed and ended up making an illogical pick.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
I also think that factors in here, so.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
We can you know, we can return to this if
you want the next hour or two, because we have
some we have some sound bites. I want everyone to
hear as well with this. But if you're looking at
the worst of walls, the worst of this guy in
terms of specific issues or moments from his past decisions
that he has made, I'm going to give you, in
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descending order of in my mind, worseness or worseness, I
would say number three for me, and I'm persuadable to
change these. Number three for me is abandoned his abandoning
his battalion as a sergeant major before right before they
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went over to deploy. He's within his rights to do
it. It wasn't illegal, was it didn't break any rules. But
that's a tough one. And we're going to talk more
to Sean Parnell about how he feels as a veteran
about that, the COVID hotline and just the COVID tyranny
in general. But the COVID stuff number two, But for
me number one, Clay, that he was so not just
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impotent but also really ideologically aligned with the BLM riots. Yeah,
and you talk to people from Minnesota and they say, look,
I used to spend my I used to go to
Minnesota in the summers and my dad and my brothers.
It was one of those places you'd go to is
in New York or that was so safe. You're like,
is this even America? You know, there's no crime, everyone's
nice to everybody. That's changed in the last twenty years,
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really in the last ten years, and Walls has presided
over this. Yeah, A big part of it is his
adoption of the kind of racial Marxist attitudes of the
left and the BLM. So his wife saying that she
enjoyed smelling the burning tires from the riots. I think
that's gonna haunt him. I think that's unforgivable for any
(28:19):
normal person as people. So you know, do you have
the same order, and do you think those are the
three worst?
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Number one?
Speaker 6 (28:27):
We agree, I have Minneapolis failure because that's the specific
job of the governor. Your job is to make sure
that your communities don't burn down. Your job is to
protect innocent citizens. And he let Minneapolis burn because he
was too much of a coward to get crosswise with BLM.
(28:47):
So Number one beyond the shadow of a doubt, which
is why I find it the most shocking that Kamala
made him the choice, because it reinforces the bail fund
she raised money for, and it reinforces Democrats down for
months all over the country, and letting our nation burn
Minneapolis's biggest failure.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
Beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
Second COVID to me, when you have a rat out
your neighbor line that you endorse and people are getting
called because they're outside playing basketball or because they have
their neighbors over for a birthday party, and you've got
neighbors ratting on neighbors for living normal lives during COVID.
(29:28):
That is another failure. Again, it goes profoundly to me
to the essence of the job itself. So to me,
Minneapolis and COVID are disqualifying two walls to be able
to get a promotion that would put him a heart
beat away from the presidency. And then the third one.
I want to hear from Sean Parnell more about the
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military the decision not to go to Iraq. I obviously
didn't serve. So I don't feel like I am as
sharp on being able to analyze this as you would
be based on your background and when you get shipped
into dangerous places, and Sean would be. So I want
to hear more about that from the people who have
been in that world.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
And everyone who's been in that world knows. I mean,
there are there are tiers, right, There's did you deploy?
And then there's and I don't just be in the
military sense, because by the way, there are a lot
of contractors who did very dangerous stuff and saw combat.
I mean it's not just serving the military that can
put you in a position of all the way up
to combat. Right, But there's did you deploy to a
(30:30):
war zone. If you're in the war zone, did you
ever get out into the red zone and take that risk?
And then there's did you ever actually see active combat?
Speaker 5 (30:38):
Right?
Speaker 1 (30:38):
I mean where you basically ever shot at and returned
fire or vice versa. And to get to the point
where you don't even go to a rock when you've
been training these guys and that's supposed to be your unit. Again,
We'll bring Sean on because I think that's a perspective
we need to hear, which is somebody who is a
combat veteran, so he'll be with us in the next hour.
Speaker 6 (30:55):
My third one is the trans embrace. I can't get
over as somebody who has three kids that are all minors,
the idea that you could create a law where you're
trying to potentially take kids away from their parents if
they don't aren't allowed to have minor surgery, putting tampons
in the boys' bathroom like this.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I think your list may be better than mine.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
I might have to move up number three to four
and replace that with the trends things.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
So that is my top three. The top two are
definitely disqualifying. The third one is incredibly problematic. For me
as a parent. And we'll talk about this again as
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. We mentioned we're going
to talk with Sean Parnell in the third hour of
the program about the military service of Tim Walls, something
that they are turning into a big part of his
overall electability and why he was the choice that he was.
(33:33):
Mary in Maine, you say your daughter served in the
Middle East with the Minnesota National Guard.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
What is your story? We appreciate you calling in Hi.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 5 (33:46):
Yeah, We've got you. Thank you?
Speaker 9 (33:47):
Ok.
Speaker 8 (33:48):
Sorry, Well, to back up on this, Nicole grew up
in Maine. We live in Maine, and she had finished
her commitment her seven year commitment with the Army reserves
here in Maine, but because of nine eleven, everyone was
put in what is called a ready reserves, So she
(34:09):
was in the ready reserves. She thought she was done
and could continue on with her life and do whatever,
and received a huge packet in the mail. She was
not home. She had moved to Boston, and she's and
I said, well, you know this was forreficial call. They
want me to sign this for you, and so shy,
I gotta go ahead and open it. Well, what has
(34:31):
happened is that she had been called back in as
a paramedic. Period. She had thirty days to get ready
and to report to San Antonio, Texas to meet up
with the Red Bull Minnesota National Guard, and so she
(34:55):
was deployed. She was there for two months, and then
she was deployed for twenty two months, got blown up twice,
lost seventy five percent of hearing. She never batted an eye.
This is a little girl from Bangor Moon who took
the place of a man who would like to be
the vice president of the United States of America. She
(35:17):
went to Iraq for twenty two months, the longest deployed
unit in the history of the Irian Iraqi conference the longest. Sorry.
I had a big dog and she never she never
batted an I and she wasn't from Minnesota. It wasn't
(35:37):
her state's commitment, but she went. She's gone.
Speaker 9 (35:42):
Now I lost her because she didn't come back the
same and had a lot of other issues, but because
of being some of the things for two things.
Speaker 8 (35:57):
And I miss her terribly. But you know, if if
she hadn't gone, she would have never ever accepted it
in herself. But I hope he understands that other people
fulfills their commitment.
Speaker 6 (36:14):
Thank you for the call. It's a powerful story. We're
sorry for your loss, Buck. I think we're going to
hear this from a lot of people, and you've already
hit on it. The idea that you would leave your
unit and not go be deployed in Iraq is for
many people an indefensible decision that Tim Walls made.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
I mean, when I was in the CIA, Clay, I
told you this. They said, look, we can't force you
to go anywhere, but if you're going to work the
rock desk and you're going to sit across from soldiers
who have been over there, and you refuse to go
in the country, How are they going to take you seriously?
Welcome in everybody to the Wednesday edition of The Clay
Travis and Buck Sexton Show.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Ninety one days.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
That's what they were saying, at least Clay on morning Joe,
as I was drinking my Crocket coffee because I do
have my Crocket here this morning, they were telling me that,
and they were doing everything they could to puff up
the sense of historic conquests that they are telling the
Democrats they're going to have here with this victory insight.
(00:32):
Kamala Harris, Tim Walls not to be confused with Waltz.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Thank you to our Minnesota listeners.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
We realize Walls and we're living in an alternate universe now,
but that doesn't mean that we could ignore the people
who have created this alternate universe. We have to defeat
the madness. We'll break this down. I think that the
overwhelming sense on the conservative side of things right now
(00:58):
is what we were saying yesterday. I mean, I really, Clay,
you know all morning it's prepped for our show, and
then sometimes I can see what some of the sentiments
are from some of our friends and colleagues on the
right afterwards, and I did not see a single person
still who thinks that this is a smart pick, but
I want to break it down. I want us today
(01:19):
to get into the policy differences, the record and make
sure that we all have clarity on exactly who, not
just Tim Walls is, but also what this Kamala Harris
Walls ticket is really all about. I mean, this is
the most left wing and it is not an exaggeration.
(01:41):
It is not some you know, talk radio talking point.
It is the truth that this is the most left
wing Democrat ticket certainly in our lifetime. And I think
you'd have to go back to what Eugene Debs running
as a straight up socialist maybe, and even back then
the socialists were a little bit less crazy than the
left wing Democrats are now. But here we go. Let's
(02:04):
give you some examples of what we're talking about here
with Walls, they are presenting him Clay as a cuddly
coach and veteran who wears you know, lumberjack shirts and
goes hunting, and he's a different kind of Democrat. And
we're here to just remind every it's all afront all
a facade, what he looks like, how he dresses, if
(02:28):
he chooses to go hunting on the weekends or not
does not matter. What matters is what does this guy
stand for? What does he do with the power that
he has been given by the people of Minnesota in
previous elections. The answer is he is a pro trans lunacy,
(02:50):
far left wing pro BLM, burning down neighborhoods in the
biggest city in his state.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Radical.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
That's what he actually dands for. He is the guy
who set up a COVID snitch hotline. Oh, somebody got
out of their house to go play basketball. They're a risk.
Let's lock them up, or let's give them a fine.
Call your police officers. It was nuts here he is Clay.
I mean, there's so much here to go after. Here
he is saying that this is where he's doing the
(03:22):
whole folks. See the folks, see dance for everybody.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Oh, I'm just such a good old guy. You can
trust me. I'm a Midwestern guy just like you. Oh,
come on, this is cut four. Listen to this. Some
of us are old enough to remember.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
When it was Republicans who were talking about freedom. It
turns out now what they meant was the government should
be free to invade your doctor's office.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
In Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
We respect our neighbors and their personal choices that they make,
even if we wouldn't make the same choice for ourselves.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
There's a golden rule. Mind your own damn business.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
That's not the golden rule. But put that aside for
a second. The guy who set up the COVID snitch
hot line for people who wanted fresh air is presenting
himself as the for choice and for freedom guy Clay.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
It's just all a lie. It's all a facade.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
It's a total lie.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
And again, I think that is really important that he's
trying to pretend that he's for freedom while he's supporting
a candidate that wanted to mandate that everyone have to
get the COVID shot, even though we know the COVID
shot is effectively worthless. Right, I think even left wingers
now are who got five and six and seven and
(04:46):
eight of those COVID shots are like, yeah, it's basically
at best kind of a tie and all for COVID
and it hasn't really altered the trajectory of the virus
at all. And meanwhile, these companies have gotten fabulously wealthy.
But to me, what it is buck in many ways
is clarifying about Kamala Kamala is a chameleon. She is
(05:09):
trying to be all things to all people. Right now,
we are sitting at what day seventeen since she became
the nominee effectively, and she still hasn't done an interview,
She hasn't come off a teleprompter, She hasn't even done
an unscripted interaction with real voters in any of these jurisdictions.
(05:30):
They are trying to hide Kamala because they know that
she is a gaff prone machine that is actually pretty
unlikable when she is off the prompter. What is intriguing
to me is it's working so far, and this is
why I get nervous about this process. Thirty days from now,
(05:51):
vote start. So whatever the universe is in Trump VI. Kamala,
the snapshot of that universe is continuing every day. And
what I'm saying there is we don't have an election
day anymore. We have an election season. So if you're
popular after Labor Day, that gets locked in, that snapshot
(06:16):
of that day gets locked in with millions of voters
all throughout the next ninety days. And so my concern is,
you gotta knock Kamala off that prompter. And I don't
think there's anybody in media that's actually going to argue
that she needs to do it, and they're going to
try to hide her. That's the entire campaign.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Now, will she debate or not is certainly a question
in all this. I can see Democrats. Remember I thought
Biden wouldn't debate, and let me be clear, he shouldn't
have debated. Had he not debated, he would be the
nominee and I would be picking out an overpriced piece
of meat that Clay would be buying for me at
a fancy establishment instead of the other way around. Joe
(06:58):
should not have debated. That was a huge obvious error.
Now should Kamala debate? I think it's different for her Clay,
because first of all, she's been calling out Trump for
not debating her right, so it will look bad to
there's what's right and there's what perception will be. It's
clearly absurd for her to call Trump out and then
(07:20):
walk away from a debate herself. But I also think
that this is where what's right and perception line up.
People would say, come on, that's wimpy. You don't get
to play this game where you call out somebody and
say I want to debate you and then they say Okay,
let's do it, and you go, oh, actually, I don't
so I think she would run a risk there. I
do know that they're going to do everything possible to
keep this as stage crafted and managed as tightly as
(07:44):
they can. You know, they've got David Pluff, who is
a senior Obama campaign guy now, who's like top advisor
for the Kamala campaign. Some of the Obama you know,
top echelon have all jumped in now to get involved
with Kamala. So they're they're throwing a lot of heavyweight
behind this. She's raised more money in one month than
(08:06):
I think any person ever. But it's not really a
fair comparison because it's like she started a new campaign
with two months to go. Like, you're gonna have to
condense all that money. Everyone knows that, right, I mean,
you're just condensing, you know, isn't it like like Nascar
is once a week, so Nascar ratings versus Baseball ratings.
Baseball is like every five seconds, right, So it's yes,
not fair to compare one to one on the ratings.
(08:27):
See I just did sports now, Klay's proud, you're concerned.
Here's why I'm less concerned, or I would even say
I'm I'm not concerned.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I think Trump's gonna win. Here's why.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I think Kamala is at her absolute peak right about
this week into next week. I think this is the
highest she's ever gonna go. I think there's nowhere to
go but down and being within the margin of error
for a Democrat candidate who has the whole machine behind her,
I don't think it's gonna cut it. That's my Rose scenario,
(09:00):
but that's what I believe.
Speaker 6 (09:02):
I think that they're going to do one debate. I
think that it'll be a fairly standard presidential debate, by
which I mean both sides come out saying our side one.
It's like a boxing match where both guys raise their
hands above the end of the air afterwards, and then
(09:24):
you know, the judges at MSNBC are going to talk
about how amazing Kamala was. The judges at Fox News
are going to talk about how good Trump was. And
it's in that sixty forty realm where it's hard to
really argue that you got to knock out or that
it massively impacts.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
The direction of the race one way or the other.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
That's my expectation on what a debate between the two
would be like and so, and then I think they
go back to claiming victory putting Kamala on a teleprompter.
My concern, this is my big concern structurally for the race.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Right now.
Speaker 6 (09:59):
Trump is due doing media everywhere. He called into Fox
and Friends this morning. I think he took calls from
random people on Fox and Friends asking him questions, which,
by the way, he's asked about doing on this show
before and maybe we'll do.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
At some point.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
I think that explains and demonstrates his facility and talent
to be on his feet responding to real voter questions.
The problem is, whenever he colors a little bit outside
the line, the media reacts as if it is an
astounding statement that he has made, and we get a
(10:36):
ton of coverage from people saying, oh, look, Trump is
a malignant dictator all over again. Meanwhile, Kamala just reads
off a teleprompter, doesn't say anything. They're not playing the
same style game. And my concern is that the Kamala
hider in the basement campaign that they perfected using COVID
(10:59):
as an ex use in twenty twenty, and that on
some level they used for Fetterman in twenty twenty two
is the road map, and that might be enough to
get her across the finish line.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Here's here's my.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
What what keeps me from falling down into the pit
of Clay's despair?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Over here?
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Okay, here's what I've Here's what I've got in the
back of my mind. Joe Biden for all of his faults,
all of his flaws, all his shortcomings, which we discussed
in detail on this show, for every year and every
day of his presidency, apart from the sinility issue entirely.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
We discussed you know that he's he's really.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Kind of fake, and he's you know, he's actually not
a nice guy, and there's all these things he says
anything and fine.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
He's the he's really the prototypical politician.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
When you think of a politician in a negative context,
you know, it's like if you think of an ambulance
chasing lawyer, you think of like better call Saul, or
somebody who just will do anything and you know, desperate
to get that next client and to lie and have
them wear the brace in court. Biden's like the quintessential
slimy politician. However, his whole story of being Scranton Joe,
(12:10):
riding the chu Chuo with his lunch pale, loving the
union folks, and being one of the union guys that
resonated enough in some parts of Pennsylvania, some parts of Michigan,
some parts of Wisconsin that he did better than expected
in twenty twenty with the white working class voters. Okay,
(12:31):
with those white working class voters. I cannot see a
world in which those voters, and I bet we have
some listening to us who maybe went Trump, then Biden
and now are thinking what am I going to do?
I do not see Kamala Harris winning them, and therefore
I do not see how she has a has a
She obviously has a path, but I do not see
(12:52):
her winning Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin. I do not see it
happening based on that one demographic. I know, there's women,
and there's all these other things that there's the minority vote,
there's all these things we can talk about. I think
that Kamala is weak on the white working class vote.
And I think that I mean non college educated another
way of saying, really the same, that's the demographic, right,
(13:13):
non college educated white guys with jobs, and a lot
a lot of them listen right now, Our on are
part of our audience. I don't think they apart from
the super solid conservatives. I'm talking about the ones who
are independence, I don't think that they see Kamala Harris
and want to cast a vote for And I don't
think Walls changes this.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Does that make me feel a little better.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
Walls is a bad pick that made me feel better yesterday.
The concern that I have is I don't know that
Kamala is ever going to actually answer questions from anyone,
and as a result, I don't know what the major
potholes are for her. Like I don't think Trump benefited
(13:56):
from doing me an ABJ. I think that that substantially
hurt his campaign. But Kamala didn't do the NABJ, and
she benefited from what Trump's doing that she's unwilling to
do again. They're playing by a different set of rules
and that's my concern, and I'm gonna tell on ninety
(14:18):
days I agree with you absolutely on the NABJ. The
Black Americans who are going to vote for Trump are
already going to vote for Trump. He shouldn't waste his
time chasing more black votes between now and the election
as a concerted effort. There are some great Americans who
are black are going to vote for Trump.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
And that's fantastic and hopefully I'm not saying maybe the
numbers even bigger than has been the past. I'm just
saying he's not winning any of that. He's not winning
any substantial percentage of the black vote between now an
election day. He's getting the percentage of the black vote
in ninety days that he was going to get yesterday.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Yeah, that's not a worthwhile endeavor for him.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
He should be doing the Trump thing, going after white
working class voters in the swing states, buying them big max,
giving them high fives, talking about how he's going to
be tough on China, talking about how he's going to
have a booming economy that helps them afford their groceries,
that helps them pay their rent or their mortgage, and
(15:16):
helps them maybe save up and buy that business of
their own that they get to run, whatever it may be.
You know what I mean, that's if I'm Trump. That's Oh,
and talk about immigration a lot. I mean, I totally
agree with you on the top three topics.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
Top three issues, Crime, over and over again.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
But he should be.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Going to tell guys who you know, a lot of
the time make a living with a hard hat on,
or you know, we got the truckers, welders, plumbers. He
needs to be telling them in the Swing States, I'm
your guy, because he is their guy. Walls is a
phony and we're going to talk more about that here
in just a second. Look, you're gonna hear Kamala Harris
(15:53):
use words like women's reproductive rights a lot in this campaign.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
She said it, she says it all the time.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I'm actually and what you won't hear are her talking
about the rights of babies that are unborn. That's not
going to happen. So we know what the Democrat Party
stands for. We know what Kamala and Walls and these
radicals believe when it comes to the right of babies
in the womb to have life.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
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All right, let's get down to brass tacks, shall we,
with this Walls character, this guy next door communists. All right,
(19:07):
I see exactly what's going on here. We're gonna talk
about it a bit today because obviously it's still very
much in the news. I think that this is all
gonna switch back by next week to because the jd
Vance pick just happened pretty recently, what two weeks ago?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Now?
Speaker 1 (19:24):
The Tim Wall's pick happened yesterday, so we and it
was a surprise. So I will say one one quick
thing before I get into the worst of Walls and
you and I, you know, you and I I'm not
sure we see. I think our top three is going
to be the same. I think the order of our
top three may be different. So let's see three worst
(19:44):
things about Wall. That's a good question from our perspectives. Yes,
So I'll give you my three worst in order, and
then I think, you know, we can we can hear
from you. Also, we'll have just you know, Miranda Devine
joining us later on the program from the New York Post.
She's got great column on this end. And our friend
Sean Parnell in the second hour, because they're playing up
the veteran angle a lot for Walls. Sean is a
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combat veteran. Sean saw very heavy combat in Afghanistan, wrote
a memoir, best selling memoir about it called Outlaw Platoon.
Shawn's as real deal as it gets. We're going to
talk to him about this because Walls, well, I don't
want to get ahead of myself, but a lot of
people in the veteran community are saying.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Well, hold on a second.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yes, he served, but there's a thing that's interesting or
problematic perhaps about his service. So we'll get into this
with Sean as well. But first off, I thought this
was really interesting. I did believe and this is why
it all happened so fast. And my sources about Democrat
stuff are obviously at time. I mean, look, I do
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watch Morning Joe, so I feel plugged in Clay, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
I mean, Mika and I.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
They are probably I'm trying to think of a phrase
I can use that isn't aggressively borderline. They are probably
proved that they have no gag reflex with Tim Walls
as the nominee. I bet that they think that basically
he is Santa Claus come to life for Democrats. I mean,
I have not watched it, yeah, that coverage, but I
(21:11):
watched it all morning. I mean, they're they're glee and
also they're just it's all about how positive he is
and positive for the future, and it's a campaign of
hopefulness and it's and it's so great. And they say
that unlike Trump, who always says how terrible America is,
which is one of the one of the really dishonest
attacks on Trump that Democrats have been lodging for a
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long time. No, he says the Democrats make make stupid
decisions and ruin things, particularly major cities. That is true.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
But Trump understands also the greatness of America, which is
why he is still very much running and I think
still going to win if he stays focused and disciplined.
There is an asterisk if he stays focused and disciplined,
and the whole Republican Party does too. And make sure
that the Shenanigans either don't happen or are caught red
handed in a way that can be taken to any
(22:03):
honest court and given a real hearing on it. So anyway,
what I wanted to get into, though, Clay, was Josh
Shapiro not to be confused with Ben Josh Shapiro. Which
that was a fun headline from the Babylon Bee. It's
just it's like, how could things get crazier?
Speaker 8 (22:22):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Well, if Ben Shapiro was the VP, I know he
wouldn't be. It's just kind of funny. Josh Shapiro, Why
didn't he get it?
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Did you see this? This is from left wing sources?
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Yeah, yeah, I read this.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Kamala didn't want to be overshadowed. I think that Kamala's
insecurity and vanity may have been the prime mover here,
the primary decision maker that pushed her away from Shapiro,
which you and I were both concerned about. As as
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how that would I do think that that would make
Pennsylvania very hard to win. I think that her vanity
may have made her go with Walls, and this might
have been the the mistake that shows what else is coming.
Speaker 6 (23:10):
That's why to me and I will dive into Walls
because I do think it's important. Most people don't know him,
what does he represent? All of those things, But the
VP pick tells you more about the president and his
thought process and what he sees from a strategic perspective
or she sees than anything else. And so to me,
(23:31):
Kamala not standing up to the left wing of her
party and not being willing to say Josh Shapiro is
the pick. Let me ask you this, buck. If Josh
Shapiro's last name, I saw someone tweet this might have
been at Aary Fleischer. If Josh Shapiro's last name was Walls,
and if Tim Wall's last name was Shapiro and they
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were otherwise the exact same biography, is there any doubt
that Kamala picks Shapiro Walls, that is, the Pennsylvania governor
who isn't Jewish. In other words, I think if if
Shapiro is Christian, he is the pick, even if Kamala
is unhappy or uncomfortable with his star appeal, because ultimately
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she's still the president. I think the only reason Josh
Shapiro wasn't picked is because he's Jewish and there is
a strong anti Semitic left wing base that would have
refused to come out and support him aggressively. You buy
that if Josh Shapiro were just a Christian guy, make
his last name walls, flip them. Is there any way
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that Kamala still makes the same pick.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I think that's I think your analysis is sound, but
I can't necessarily get to the definitive conclusion because I
think the Kamala.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Factor here is very is very powerful.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I do buy security playing in here, too, That she
is an insecure leader, yes, And I think that she
probably has advises around her telling her that it's all
gonna come down to her anyway, and that all that
matters is that she like this VP and have good
chemistry with him. And I think that's how. I think
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that's how the situation unfolded, because otherwise it's from a
If you're sitting at a table strategically, this is not
the smart move, right, If you're just having the nuts
and bolts of what is most likely, what is the
most likely action to bring about a win?
Speaker 2 (25:37):
I think this is clearly not not the case. But
I honestly think no.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
Let me let me say this too. I'm curious if
you would buy in.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
Sometimes you overthink things and you move away from your
natural reaction, and your instincts end up being overridden by
over analysis. Have you seen this happen a bunch where
like on a flash, you look at something and you're like,
this is the pick, and then you look at the
binders and you listen to everybody talk for a long time,
(26:07):
and you end up overthinking an issue. I also think
that might be in play here because Shapiro is such
a no brainer pick that I actually think they over
analyzed and ended up making an illogical pick.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
I also think that factors in here, so.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
We can you know, we can return to this if
you want the next hour or two, because we have
some we have some sound bites. I want everyone to
hear as well with this. But if you're looking at
the worst of walls, the worst of this guy in
terms of specific issues or moments from his past decisions
that he has made, I'm going to give you, in
(26:44):
descending order of in my mind, worseness or worseness, I
would say number three for me, and I'm persuadable to
change these. Number three for me is abandoned his abandoning
his battalion as a sergeant major before right before they
(27:07):
went over to deploy. He's within his rights to do
it. It wasn't illegal, was it didn't break any rules. But
that's a tough one. And we're going to talk more
to Sean Parnell about how he feels as a veteran
about that, the COVID hotline and just the COVID tyranny
in general. But the COVID stuff number two, But for
me number one, Clay, that he was so not just
(27:31):
impotent but also really ideologically aligned with the BLM riots. Yeah,
and you talk to people from Minnesota and they say, look,
I used to spend my I used to go to
Minnesota in the summers and my dad and my brothers.
It was one of those places you'd go to is
in New York or that was so safe. You're like,
is this even America? You know, there's no crime, everyone's
nice to everybody. That's changed in the last twenty years,
(27:54):
really in the last ten years, and Walls has presided
over this. Yeah, A big part of it is his
adoption of the kind of racial Marxist attitudes of the
left and the BLM. So his wife saying that she
enjoyed smelling the burning tires from the riots. I think
that's gonna haunt him. I think that's unforgivable for any
(28:19):
normal person as people. So you know, do you have
the same order, and do you think those are the
three worst?
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Number one?
Speaker 6 (28:27):
We agree, I have Minneapolis failure because that's the specific
job of the governor. Your job is to make sure
that your communities don't burn down. Your job is to
protect innocent citizens. And he let Minneapolis burn because he
was too much of a coward to get crosswise with BLM.
(28:47):
So Number one beyond the shadow of a doubt, which
is why I find it the most shocking that Kamala
made him the choice, because it reinforces the bail fund
she raised money for, and it reinforces Democrats down for
months all over the country, and letting our nation burn
Minneapolis's biggest failure.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
Beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Speaker 6 (29:06):
Second COVID to me, when you have a rat out
your neighbor line that you endorse and people are getting
called because they're outside playing basketball or because they have
their neighbors over for a birthday party, and you've got
neighbors ratting on neighbors for living normal lives during COVID.
(29:28):
That is another failure. Again, it goes profoundly to me
to the essence of the job itself. So to me,
Minneapolis and COVID are disqualifying two walls to be able
to get a promotion that would put him a heart
beat away from the presidency. And then the third one.
I want to hear from Sean Parnell more about the
(29:48):
military the decision not to go to Iraq. I obviously
didn't serve. So I don't feel like I am as
sharp on being able to analyze this as you would
be based on your background and when you get shipped
into dangerous places, and Sean would be. So I want
to hear more about that from the people who have
been in that world.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
And everyone who's been in that world knows. I mean,
there are there are tiers, right, There's did you deploy?
And then there's and I don't just be in the
military sense, because by the way, there are a lot
of contractors who did very dangerous stuff and saw combat.
I mean it's not just serving the military that can
put you in a position of all the way up
to combat. Right, But there's did you deploy to a
(30:30):
war zone. If you're in the war zone, did you
ever get out into the red zone and take that risk?
And then there's did you ever actually see active combat?
Speaker 5 (30:38):
Right?
Speaker 1 (30:38):
I mean where you basically ever shot at and returned
fire or vice versa. And to get to the point
where you don't even go to a rock when you've
been training these guys and that's supposed to be your unit. Again,
We'll bring Sean on because I think that's a perspective
we need to hear, which is somebody who is a
combat veteran, so he'll be with us in the next hour.
Speaker 6 (30:55):
My third one is the trans embrace. I can't get
over as somebody who has three kids that are all minors,
the idea that you could create a law where you're
trying to potentially take kids away from their parents if
they don't aren't allowed to have minor surgery, putting tampons
in the boys' bathroom like this.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I think your list may be better than mine.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
I might have to move up number three to four
and replace that with the trends things.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
So that is my top three. The top two are
definitely disqualifying. The third one is incredibly problematic. For me
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. We mentioned we're going
to talk with Sean Parnell in the third hour of
the program about the military service of Tim Walls, something
that they are turning into a big part of his
overall electability and why he was the choice that he was.
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Mary in Maine, you say your daughter served in the
Middle East with the Minnesota National Guard.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
What is your story? We appreciate you calling in Hi.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 5 (33:46):
Yeah, We've got you. Thank you?
Speaker 9 (33:47):
Ok.
Speaker 8 (33:48):
Sorry, Well, to back up on this, Nicole grew up
in Maine. We live in Maine, and she had finished
her commitment her seven year commitment with the Army reserves
here in Maine, but because of nine eleven, everyone was
put in what is called a ready reserves, So she
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was in the ready reserves. She thought she was done
and could continue on with her life and do whatever,
and received a huge packet in the mail. She was
not home. She had moved to Boston, and she's and
I said, well, you know this was forreficial call. They
want me to sign this for you, and so shy,
I gotta go ahead and open it. Well, what has
(34:31):
happened is that she had been called back in as
a paramedic. Period. She had thirty days to get ready
and to report to San Antonio, Texas to meet up
with the Red Bull Minnesota National Guard, and so she
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was deployed. She was there for two months, and then
she was deployed for twenty two months, got blown up twice,
lost seventy five percent of hearing. She never batted an eye.
This is a little girl from Bangor Moon who took
the place of a man who would like to be
the vice president of the United States of America. She
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went to Iraq for twenty two months, the longest deployed
unit in the history of the Irian Iraqi conference the longest. Sorry.
I had a big dog and she never she never
batted an I and she wasn't from Minnesota. It wasn't
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her state's commitment, but she went. She's gone.
Speaker 9 (35:42):
Now I lost her because she didn't come back the
same and had a lot of other issues, but because
of being some of the things for two things.
Speaker 8 (35:57):
And I miss her terribly. But you know, if if
she hadn't gone, she would have never ever accepted it
in herself. But I hope he understands that other people
fulfills their commitment.
Speaker 6 (36:14):
Thank you for the call. It's a powerful story. We're
sorry for your loss, Buck. I think we're going to
hear this from a lot of people, and you've already
hit on it. The idea that you would leave your
unit and not go be deployed in Iraq is for
many people an indefensible decision that Tim Walls made.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
I mean, when I was in the CIA, Clay, I
told you this. They said, look, we can't force you
to go anywhere, but if you're going to work the
rock desk and you're going to sit across from soldiers
who have been over there, and you refuse to go
in the country, How are they going to take you seriously?
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