July 7, 2025 • 36 mins
In the Monday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, the hosts opened Hour 1 discussing the devastating floods in Texas Hill Country that claimed over 80 lives with potentially 100+ casualties. The flooding occurred overnight at a historic church camp, with Clay noting the tragedy immediately became politicized with some blaming Trump voters. The hosts announced that Texas Congressman Chip Roy, who represents the affected Texas region, would join them in the third hour to provide updates on the disaster. A caller from Kerrville shared how the area had been experiencing drought conditions before the sudden devastating rainfall.
The hosts covered several other major news stories, including Trump signing the "big beautiful bill" on July 4th, providing tax certainty and addressing border security. They discussed New York City mayoral candidate Mamdani allegedly lying about his race on college applications, Netanyahu's meeting with Trump, and the Sean "Diddy" Combs verdict. Regarding Combs, both hosts expressed skepticism about the case, noting he was only found guilty on two prostitution charges rather than the more serious RICO charges that could have resulted in life imprisonment.
Clay and Buck questioned how Sean Combs amassed his wealth, with Clay stating, "Most people who are worth hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars... Usually you have to build something," suggesting skepticism about Combs' financial success. They also discussed the earlier "sweetheart deal" Combs received before the current charges, drawing parallels to the controversial Jeffrey Epstein case and the unusual preferential treatment Epstein received in Florida during his first legal troubles.
Clay and Buck give a post–Independence Day recap and quickly dives into a packed hour of breaking news, political commentary, and a deep-dive into one of the most devastating natural disasters in recent Texas history. Clay and Buck reflect on their July 4th celebrations before turning to the major headlines dominating the national conversation.
The hour opens with analysis of a newly signed bill by President Donald Trump, which brings sweeping changes to tax policy and economic regulation. The hosts also spotlight a scandal involving the Democrat nominee for New York City mayor, Zohran Mamdani, who was caught lying about his race on college applications—raising questions about identity politics and integrity in public office.
International affairs are also on the docket, with updates on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s visit with Trump, and the legal fallout surrounding Sean “Diddy” Combs, who was found not guilty on major charges but convicted on two prostitution-related counts. The hosts dissect the implications of the verdict and what it means for celebrity accountability.
The catastrophic flooding in Texas, which struck over the July 4th weekend. The hosts provide a detailed and emotional account of the tragedy, which claimed dozens of lives—many of them young girls and counselors at the historic Camp Mystic. With over 80 confirmed dead and more missing, the segment explores the failures of early warning systems, the politicization of natural disasters, and the heroic efforts of first responders. Clay and Buck emphasize the need for improved emergency alert infrastructure, such as flood sirens, especially for overnight events.
Listeners are encouraged to support local charities aiding flood victims, and the hosts open the phone lines to hear firsthand accounts from those affected in Kerrville and Ingram, Texas.
The hour also includes a public service warning about cyber scams, specifically fake passport renewal websites, and promotes LifeLock as a trusted solution for identity theft protection.
Finally, the hosts revisit the Jeffrey Epstein case, expressing deep skepticism over the DOJ’s recent statements. They question the legitimacy o
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. We
hope all of you had fabulous July fourth. So I
was down on the first inaugurald July fourth at the
Gulf of America. Had an amazing time. Buck was down
in Miami. We hope that you have gotten back or
are in the process of returning from what may have
(00:23):
been a long holiday weekend. We've got a ton of
news to dive into with all of you. The Big
Beautiful Bill passes as we told you it would. There
was some drama, but Trump signed it on July fourth.
It is now law certainty when it comes to taxes
and beyond. We will discuss much of that, as well
(00:46):
as border security. Mom Donnie gets caught lying about his
race on college applications. He is the Democrat nominee for
mayor in New York City. I do think that is
actually a storeory of some significance. Net and Yahoo visiting
with Trump. We will update you on any of the
fallout there. Puff Daddy, Sean Combs, Diddy, whatever you want
(01:09):
to call him. We told you we were skeptical of
the case. A lot of people were shocked when he
was found not guilty of the most significant of those charges.
We will discuss that quite a lot as well. But
the biggest story I think coming out of the weekend
is the flooding situation which may well kill unfortunately one
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hundred people in Texas. And I know many of you
are in that listening area with us right now in
Texas and are listening to us and experienced exactly what
happened over the holiday weekend as a massive amount of
rain fell and the river there swept away and rose
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at a level that is frankly completely unheard of historically occurs.
It's one of these things where it happens five hundred
year thousand year floods, and it happened in the middle
of the night, and happened right along a basically church
camp that has been in Texas for nearly one hundred years,
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just shy of one hundred years. I bet that many
of you in that area, many of you who are Texans,
may have gone, friends and family went there, Many young
wives lost. It is an awful, awful story there, and
unfortunately it immediately became a political ridiculousness. People trying to
(02:44):
blame President Trump, people trying to blame Trump voters Republicans,
and that happened almost instantaneously. Based on everything that I
have seen and read, and I tried to familiarize myself
to a great degree with this story, it's just a
cavalcade of really unfortunate events, in particular the fact that
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many of these alerts which all went out, were going
out in the middle of the night, and a lot
of people were sleeping, and the water rose so quickly
that before people were even aware that they were in danger,
many people found themselves standing in water, or even having
their homes in the places where they were staying near
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the river underwater. In a way that just happened overnight,
And so I think there's going to be a lot
of discussion going forward about how do we handle some
of these situations in the future. I imagine a lot
of you out there experienced it yourself, and you're listening
to us right now. I shared a charity, I'll retweet
it that I've donated to that I would encourage a
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lot of you if you want to give back to
this community. But Buck, I think the biggest unfortunate aspect
of this is that it happened in the middle of
the night. Everybody is sleeping. You may be getting these
alerts on your phones. You probably have the radio turned off.
And it just happened so quickly that it caught people.
(04:15):
A lot of people unaware the alerts were going out.
It was just most people were sleeping.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
There are a lot of analyzes already about what could
have been done to have avoided this, And I know
there's a lot of heartbreak for the families, for the communities,
and the girls at this camp, Mystic, which lost already
twenty seven of its girls, its campers, and counselors. I mean,
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it's horrible beyond words, and our hearts break for those
who were affected by this. Clay I remember summer camp,
if it's so many of us, it's supposed to be
a time of joy, and like a lot of people,
some of their fond perhaps even fondest memories or summer
camps growing up. And to have something like this, a
tragedy like this hit that community, it's just unthinkable. Now
(05:05):
we have immediately what could have been done, and they're
still searching.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I know, so they're searching.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Rescue efforts are underway, and there have been some incredibly
brave first responder efforts that have saved a lot of
lives in this process. I mean they are pulling people,
have been pulling people out of trees, off of rooftops.
The photos, the imagery of these floods does bring home
pretty quickly to anybody, no matter where you are across
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the country, around the world, just how violent and how
extreme these flood waters were. And also for anyone who's
been around or knows about this, it's more like a
wall of kind of mud and silt. A lot of
the time. It's a tremendous amount of debris in this water.
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It moves fast, it comes in high, and there's a
lot of stuff in it as well, so it can
be very hard to to maneuver in. And so it's
it's obviously very lethal. I mean they've had clay. I
was reading about previous rescue attempts. I believe there was
a rescue attempt for a previous flood situation where the
where a bus full of people was swept away. So
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they were trying to get people away from it, and
the bus itself got swept away. To give you a
sense of how houses disappear. Obviously, the camp uh, these
sort of camp grounds that these girls were in not
able to withstand this, and people are saying, well, how
could the warning have gone out sooner or what could
have been done differently? There's siren alarm systems that are
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in place in neighboring counties that went off. There was
an effort to get a similar alarm system in place
in the county where Camp Mystic was was located, and
they didn't get the funding for it. Now would an
alarm system like that, right, there's alarms that go off
to your phone, there's the warnings, there's all these different
(06:59):
pieces come into play. But having sirens effectively like an
air raid siren situation, would that have changed this at
four am in this county, That's going to be something
that people look at, I think very closely. But the
timing of it could not have been worse in terms
of the casualties that would come from the event, because
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people are the most you know, the most likely to
be asleep, the least likely to be communicating with each
other in the area, and also the least able to
handle moving. I mean, it's just that the truth is,
any human being you wake them up at four o'clock
in the morning, they're moving more lethargically they're not thinking clearly,
and now you think about little kids at four am,
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and it's just a it's a horrific situation. And I
know that it's it's been a heartbreak for Texas and
for the whole country. Yeah, I think what you hit
on is something that's going to be talked about. I
turned my phone off a lot at night just because
I don't want to be woken up. And I do
you think that one of the things that they've tried
(08:03):
to do with tornadoes and tornadoes come through where I
live and have hit my hometown of Nashville recently in
a significant and deadly way. The tornado sirens are basically
impossible to ignore, and we have situations where people don't
get the notifications on their phones. Is there a flood
(08:26):
related siren that can be installed. I don't know the
answer to that, but I think that's the conversation that's
going to happen going forward.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Warning systems always have this. Look.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
I'm in Florida, the hurricane capital of America, right, and
you have Floridians who you're not going to get them
to move out of where you know. I know people
who have been here now they've obviously been alive for
fifty sixty seven years. They've been through a lot of hurricanes.
You're not getting them to move no matter what the yeah,
what the warning is, because they've been through. Look, we
(08:55):
just had this in Florida actually recently, where it was
this is the big one. It's gonna hit Tampa. Tampa
is going to be and then sure enough it actually
hit western hit my in laws area western North Carolina
much harder than it did the Tampa area in terms
of the damage and the casualties from it. So in
this case, Clay, if you have a lot of alarms
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going off, a lot of warnings going off in a
place that is used to flooding, what then is the
threshold for Oh, no, we've got to get to high
ground right now, as opposed to the area that we're
in is having another flood right That's where you know
you can sense there's going to be some difficulty here
(09:39):
to figure out how this could be avoided. And then
also people, i think even Congressman Roy, who this is
this a lot of this happened in his district, Chip
Roy saying in an interview it's also a once in
a century event, So it's very hard to prepare appropriately
for what people call in probability analysis, a black swan
(10:01):
or a fat tale event. Right, fat tale is a
low probability, very high impact basically something that you don't
think is going to happen, but if it does happen,
it's really bad. Well, that is what the situation is
with these floods. So there'll be analysis of this. And
I don't even think, I don't know how much you
want to even talk about. There are people who have
come out and tried to politicize this right away, and
(10:22):
it's gross, it's pathetic, and it's really just evidence of
a political derangement, you know. I think it's much more
important for everybody to focus on the first respond to efforts,
the cert ongoing search and rescue efforts, and to really
look at this honestly and see what could have been
done to make sure that.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
This won't be done. This won't happen again in the future,
no doubt.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
And I think what you said too, sometimes we actually
over deliver in terms of, hey, there's a flood warning.
There's a flood warning, and sometimes the floods aren't that significant,
but there is a flood warning. I think, really what
happened here is it happened in the middle of the night,
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and I just think people, you know, most of history,
you wouldn't have had a cell phone to be getting
alerts on If there is a way to sit around
and really contemplate this going forward when they are able
to fully have done all the recovery and all those efforts.
I do wonder whether one of the things that they
added here after the devastating tornadoes we've had is the sirens.
(11:28):
Is there a way to have sirens along the river
that notifies in a serious way when things like this
are happening because people are sleeping. I mean, I think
a lot of people frankly just got swept away in
the middle of the night, never even knew they were
in danger because the waters came up so fast here.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yes, so they'll look at this much more closely. The
experts will look at what could have been done here.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
But this.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Is true of a lot of natural disasters, which this
clearly is. If it's bad enough, if you're talking more
about casualty mitigation than casualty elimination, meaning you're not going
to be able to save everybody you're trying to save
as many people as possible, But when you're looking at
almost one hundred people in this area from flooding, that's
just the numbers just far too there's numbers far too
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high for anyone to think that this system was sufficient
given the risk.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Factors, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Also, the holiday weekend probably increased the number of people,
sadly that we're camping on alongside of the banks and
the river, as many people were doing to celebrate with
their friends and family. So it really was the worst
possible scenario with timing, with date and everything else associated
with it. But our thoughts and prayers and we're going
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to again. I'll retweet what I am told is a
very good charity that is local in the area that
I've supported, And if you're wanting to do something, you
can join this as well. If you want to call
in and share your thoughts on this, if you're live
in the area or you know people affected by it.
Lines obviously are open. We know we have our San
(13:04):
Antonio affiliate WOAI, which is a huge signal which.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Does reach into this area. We have some other signals
from smaller stations that are in the area. So if
you're listening and you want to fill us in on
just what you saw that happen yourself, or what you
know from people firsthand, what you're hearing about the search
and rescue and first responder efforts which are ongoing. I
believe they're still unfortunately expecting clay pretty heavy weather today,
(13:28):
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Speaker 2 (15:03):
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. We'll get
some of your calls here if you call in and
are from the area where these horrible plugs occurred, so
we'll get some of that here. Coming up in the
back half of this hour, I want to hear from you.
Our thoughts and prayers go out to the those effected,
the families and the community here of the Hill Country
of Texas. We've got a lot of news stories we're
(15:25):
going to get to over the course of today. Clay
mentioned the Shawn Combs verdict, which was no way around
it a huge, a huge win for Shawn Combs, which
is that he was only he was only found guilty
essentially of two prostitution charges, so paying prostitutes, which is
not something that people go away for long periods of
(15:46):
time generally. I know they say he faces up to
ten years in federal prison, but he's not. I don't
think he's going to get anywhere near that. Clay, We'll
see the judge could decide to make an example of
him on the lower counts, but I think that would
look given that the higher counts would could have sent
in a prison for life where acquittals, I don't think
we're going to see that. So Clin and I I
think on the overall trajectory of that, we got that
(16:08):
one right. We knew that was The Rico case was
super shaky because people think Rico, they think mobsters, They
don't think one guy who's paying prostitutes and obviously did
he did. He Sean Combs is sicko and a bad person,
but that doesn't necessarily send you a prison.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
So there's that.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
There's also the DOJ statement about the Epstein situation, which
we could talk about today and will. The DOJ and
the FBI have come out to say, without a whole
lot more explanation, Clay that there is no client list,
there was no blackmail operation, and Epstein killed himself. I
(16:46):
do not believe the first part of that.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
I don't. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I know that our people are in charge now and
there's good people that are looking into this. And now
that doesn't mean that I'm not suggesting anyone's in on
it or covering it up at the Senior Life, DOJ
or FBI. Now, m clay, I think you and I
can see that well. I believe and I think you're
with me on this that a lot of this stuff
was a lot of the evidence, the tapes, et cetera
(17:12):
was destroyed and erased a long time ago, which has
always been my concern, and so they don't have it.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, and my thing from the get go is it's
hard to become worth hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars.
Most people who are worth hundreds and hundreds of millions
of dollars and make it in their life. You go
back and you look, I'm not talking about becoming a millionaire.
This guy was nearly a billionaire. Usually you have to
(17:39):
build something. What did he build?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
He was given in a sixty or seventy million dollar
house given, So explain this to me, everybody, this guy anyway,
there's a lot. I'm just telling you right now. We
can get into it. I don't buy it, Guys, I
don't buy it. I don't accept the DOJ response on this.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah, we'll get into this in a sect because the
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Welcome back in Clay Rabits Buck Sexton Show. We're gonna
be joined just texting with Congressman Ship Roy, who represents
(19:05):
the area of Texas that was destroyed in so many
ways this weekend the flooding. We know we're on in
Curvell Or know that many of you are listening to
us right there that have been dealing with the tragedy there.
We will get the absolute latest, uh in the third
hour of the program as as we break all that down,
(19:29):
so that will be coming, that will be coming your way. Uh,
And we will break all of that down. Now, we
mentioned the the Epstein news, So here's what I would
say in general, off the top. I don't believe that
this guy could have become wealthy on the level that
(19:51):
he is wealthy based on what I have seen by
just being an investment guy in New York. That means
there's never been something that he created that is incredibly
valuable in order usually to end up with hundreds of
millions of dollars. You're not just a money manager. And
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all of this was super shady. And I'll start with
the part that has always not made sense to me.
If you go back to the original basically deferred prosecution
agreement when they gave him house arrest, the one that
everybody got angry about as more details about Epstein came out.
(20:37):
It's never made sense to me that he got such
preferential treatment in the state of Florida that first time,
before we even get into the story becoming bigger.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
So Annie McCarthy, who we've had on the show many times,
who was a prosecutor in the Southern District of New
York for over twenty years, okay, a federal prosecutor. When
I talked to him years ago about this, said, have
you ever heard of the deal that was given to Remember,
the deal was so favorable that a Trump administration in
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the first administration, cabinet official. I think it was at
the I don't want to say because I don't want
to get it wrong, but there was a cabinet level official,
not like a Secretary of State level, but I think
it was a labor department had to step down because
he had previously. Guys, give me the name of the
US attorney for I think it was the Southern District
of Florida who signed off on this because he had
(21:31):
previously been involved in the Epstein plea deal. Okay, so
that's how argreeious it was. But I asked Andy, I said,
have you ever heard of a federal criminal by the way,
you know, sex criminal case where somebody was able to
get immunity for future unnamed collaborators. And he said, no,
(21:54):
I've never heard of that, because why would any prosecutor
give that to somebody as part of a plea bargain.
There's no reason to do that. Epstein got that in
that deal as part of the and it was incredibly
I mean, the guy was was you know, I mean,
the stuff he was doing is it's just horrible. He's
paying girls who were I think as young as thirteen,
(22:17):
fourteen years old. I mean stuff that would get a
person sent away for decades and decades, maybe forever for
And he got like six months of showing up to
like the county jail basically and you know, sitting at
a desk.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
I mean it was and being able to go home.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Somebody.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
It was crazy, the deal, Okay, So someone explained to
me why he got that deal. Someone explained to me
how this wasn't of higher interest to the authorities in
the state of Florida at the time. Now, the Palm
Beach County prosecutor. Remember federal, he got nailed on federal.
He could have been nailed on for by Palm Beach
County Clay. You go on and on with this stuff.
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All the houses are set up with surveillance cameras. I mean,
I shouldn't say surveillance.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
It's really more.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
You know, in interior, so it's not like external cameras.
The rooms are micd up. Okay, He's got his own
bedrooms and everything else in massage, parlor room and all
this stuff miked up. And I talked about this before
they had the FBI raid the New York home which
he was given, which is worth like sixty to eighty
million dollars depending. I mean, it's like the most extravagant
(23:21):
home anybody could ever live in on the Upper East
Side of Manhattan. He was given this home to your
point about where the money was made play and.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
The FBI breaks in.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
They find that he has tapes which the FBI lost
custody of matter of public record. He has tapes that
are in a.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Safe which is hidden in a wall.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Which the FBI broke. Who keep If he's just making
home videos of himself, why would he keep the home
videos in a safe in the wall. Like it makes
no sense.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
All of it doesn't add up. And then we've also
had statements made. Let me just play a couple of
these that I think are going to be difficult to
walk back in the wake of this. Now, I think
it's fair to say I don't think cash Ptel, I
don't think Dan Bongino. I think a lot of this
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evidence was gone right. I think they wiped it clean.
I don't think there's some sort of cover up on
behalf of the either of these guys, but I do
think this was Pam Bondi On February twenty first of
twenty twenty five, saying she's got the Epstein client list
on her desk right now and she's reviewing it, and
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then I'm going to play another cut later. They have
suggested that there was going to be a major revelation
and basically there's now nothing here. They're saying, cut one.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Doj maybe releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients?
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Well, that really happen.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
It's sitting on my desk right now to review. That's
been a directive by President Trump.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
I'm reviewing that.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
I'm reviewing JFK files, MLK files. That's all in the
process of being reviewed because that was done at the
directive of the president from all of these agencies.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
So so have you seen anything that you said, Oh
my gosh, not yet.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Okay, So to be fair, not yet.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
And let me also say this, the client list some
of these people, and that this also goes with the
airplane flights. And just because you were on a private
jet doesn't mean that I mean, we've talked with Alan
Dershowitz about this. It doesn't mean that you were engaged
in some sort of awful behavior. Right there are a
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lot of people who flew on these jets they had
ten people named on them, all these different things, but
there was the idea that there were going to be
revelations that were more significant. Here is I think in
March cut thirty another one from PAMBONDI.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
Listen, you're looking at these documents, going, these aren't all
the Epstein files. You know, there were flight logs, there
were names and victims' names, and we're going, where's the
rest of the stuff. That's what the FBI had turned
over to us. And so a source said, oh, all
this evidence is sitting in the Southern District of New York.
So based on that, I gave them the deadline Friday
(26:10):
at eight, a truckload of evidence arrive. It's now in
the possession of the FBI. Cash is going to get
me and himself really a detailed report as to why
all these documents and evidence had been withheld, and you know,
we're going to go through it, go through it as
fast as we can, but go through it very cautiously
to protect all the victims of Epstein, because there are
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a lot of victims.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Okay, So now those are two different cuts. And now
on Friday, was it Sunday night, in the midst of
all the other chaos going on, lots of news over
the weekend, over the holiday. They say, yeah, there's nothing
else here this story. And also they put up a video,
they say from outside of the hallway saying, hey, he
(26:55):
did commit suicide. Here is a video doesn't have the.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Nor I am you know, I wonder where you are
on this. We haven't talked about this before. The suicide thing.
I am willing to believe. I'm I can't you believe
that to be true? And I do think and I'm
very aware of the guy falling asleep and the cameras
and you know, it's an extreme coincidence situation. So don't
(27:23):
yell at me for this because I'm aware of the
that I can. I'm like, maybe this actually is the
only guy to ever commit suicide of the m's. I'm
like talking myself out of this as we're discussing it,
but that I could but that I could maybe find credible.
I mean, I talked to uh, I talked to I
remember a former Attorney General Barr, I believe about this
(27:44):
when they did the review and he said, look, it's
I thought it was very sketchy too, but this is
what happened. Okay, that was, But the Epstein wasn't running
a blackmail operation, and he was the only guy involved
with any of these He was the only guy we
are to believe other than the one royal right, the
English guy, Prince Andrew, the only guy who is alleged
(28:08):
to have been involved with any of these underage girls
as part of this trafficking slash blackmail scheme. I just
don't find that credible. I just don't find that credible.
I don't And I also sit here and say, this guy,
to your point, he's worth they found I think it
was six or seven hundred million dollars that this guy
had amassed. Where the where'd the money come from? This
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is all wire transfers, this is all trackable. He didn't
make it trading the market. For him to make this
money trading the market play, he would have to be
the biggest financial genius in the history of the stock market.
It's just not possible.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
There's always you can become a millionaire just by doing
smart things with your money. You might even be able
to come ten or fifteen millionaire. Right as a normal person.
You don't become hundreds of millions of dollars wealthy without
creating something, right, Like, there has to be some lynch
pin too.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
He would have to be managing if you were managing,
you know, a multi billion dollar hedge fund, which would
have sec scrutiny and would have all kinds of regulatory
burden and would have investors and.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
What do you know? That's right?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Okay, then then you know, maybe he's a guy who
is managing money, who's got the super sketch you know,
super criminal and awful uh private life.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
But he just did this on his own quietly. There's
just no way. There's just no Everyone I know on
Wall Street will say this if you ask them. There's
no way.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
This guy just made this money. So it's not a
blackmail operation, but we don't know where the money came from.
And also he's able to get the Honestly, let's let's
just put it out there. The richest and most powerful
people on the planet, some of them, some of the
richest and most powerful people on the planet, are willing
to hang out with this guy and willing to go
to his like weird little island.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean they're.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Asking a lot here that this was it was just him.
He was just doing his thing and there's nothing else involved.
I just I don't buy it.
Speaker 6 (30:02):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
I don't accept that this is what happened. So the
DJ can say it, and maybe that's based on the
information they have. I do not accept this explanation. We'll
take some of your calls, by the way.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
I do think that there has been a build up
of Jeffrey Epstein as the ultimate boogeyman, and it is
also possible that they've played into this. I mean, they
had the influencers that they brought in, and they gave
them the little files with basically no information, and they
posed for photos.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
I would they die?
Speaker 6 (30:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Why would they do that, Clay? If there was nothing?
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Why was there like Epstein you know file release day
at the White House which we all saw, which was
not a good moment for this DJ.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
What was that? Yeah? And I agree.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Can we get an explanation too if these questions can
be answered? And maybe they can and maybe you know,
And I'm just gonna say, I do I know Cash,
I know Dan. I have tremendous faith in those guys
and their integrity, and I'm not impugning either their integrity.
I think that they're doing everything that they can based
on what they have. Yes, I think a lot of
what they have is less than what was out there.
(31:10):
I think that there's been a cleanup operation that's been
going on for a very long time. But maybe there
are answers to the questions I put forward that will
be presented, But until someone can tell me definitively how
the money all came together, what was on the surveillance tapes,
and how this guy was able to get away with
what he got away with which no other person in
(31:31):
the history of the criminal justice system had been able
to I do not accept this explanation.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
We'll take some of your calls on this. Chip Roy
is going to join us at the top of the
third hour. He's congressman representing the area of Texas, which, unfortunately,
you're probably headed towards one hundred or more people that
ended up dying in those floods. I think the official
death tally is now well over eighty if I'm not mistaken,
(31:57):
and there's still a lot of people missing. So we
will talk about that with him. Get you the latest.
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Speaker 2 (33:28):
Welcome back in here to clay On buck lines are
all lit. Let's get to it right away. Appreciate you
being with us, everybody. Uh, let's say, Joeann in Kerrville, Texas. Joanne,
you are in the area where these terrible floods happen.
What can you tell us?
Speaker 6 (33:43):
Hi? I can tell you several things about it. First
of all, one of the things that has been extremely
hard is the fact that this area has been in
a drought situation for a couple of years, and many
people in the area has been praying for rain. And
(34:04):
when we went to bed December on two ly to third,
we were looking forward to attending a concert on the river,
and we were also expecting that that would go off fine,
that there would be wonderful fireworks. Unfortunately, that is the
(34:26):
night that were our prayers for rain were answered.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
All right, So what did you when did you become aware?
You're in Kerville when you it's raining obviously hard, people
are sleeping. When did you become aware, Hey, this is
a major, major, awful situation.
Speaker 6 (34:46):
The next morning, when I woke up so.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
You didn't even though the alerts might have been coming.
Like you just happened to be in an area that
did not flood, but you knew it was raining but
had no idea how bad it was.
Speaker 6 (35:01):
That is partially true. Yes, I do live in an
area where some areas of my neighborhood were flooded. I
was not affected by it, as I had screener I lived.
I live about two and a half blocks from the river.
(35:22):
All of the fourth of July. Things were to take
place the next day.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Well, thank you think an early warning system would have
made a difference, or a different I should say, a
different early warning system.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
No, I do not, all right, thank you, Jaaul. Fred
take an Ingram Texas here. Let's see what Fred, you
went through it? Do you agree with Joe Anne? Is
your experience similar to hers? Fred?
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Somewhat?
Speaker 6 (35:47):
So?
Speaker 4 (35:47):
When I woke up at three o'clock in the morning,
I lived as a crow flies maybe a half a
mile away from the Guadmoupe and Ingram, I got up
and it was raining and just moderate And at seven
o'clock in the morning I got a phone call, is
it really flooding that bad? And I walked out and
looked at my rain gage and I will received three
and a half inches of rain. What the problem was
(36:08):
is that that side of that hurricane sat installed over
the north and south fork of the Guadalupe, and it
dumped over twelve thirteen inches of rain from what we've
been told, and that's what happened. It just washed straight
down a stream and there was no time, no time
for anybody to do anything because there was a warning,
(36:30):
we're in a flood warning. But I was sitting outside
that night and there was no rain, no nothing.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Wow, not even thank you for the call.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
I think you and I would agree on this, buck,
no matter who the president was, the number of people
that unfortunately died from this incident were going to happen.
I think trying to blame politics in any ways just
flat out untrue, unfair,
Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. We
hope all of you had fabulous July fourth. So I
was down on the first inaugurald July fourth at the
Gulf of America. Had an amazing time. Buck was down
in Miami. We hope that you have gotten back or
are in the process of returning from what may have
(00:23):
been a long holiday weekend. We've got a ton of
news to dive into with all of you. The Big
Beautiful Bill passes as we told you it would. There
was some drama, but Trump signed it on July fourth.
It is now law certainty when it comes to taxes
and beyond. We will discuss much of that, as well
(00:46):
as border security. Mom Donnie gets caught lying about his
race on college applications. He is the Democrat nominee for
mayor in New York City. I do think that is
actually a storeory of some significance. Net and Yahoo visiting
with Trump. We will update you on any of the
fallout there. Puff Daddy, Sean Combs, Diddy, whatever you want
(01:09):
to call him. We told you we were skeptical of
the case. A lot of people were shocked when he
was found not guilty of the most significant of those charges.
We will discuss that quite a lot as well. But
the biggest story I think coming out of the weekend
is the flooding situation which may well kill unfortunately one
(01:34):
hundred people in Texas. And I know many of you
are in that listening area with us right now in
Texas and are listening to us and experienced exactly what
happened over the holiday weekend as a massive amount of
rain fell and the river there swept away and rose
(01:57):
at a level that is frankly completely unheard of historically occurs.
It's one of these things where it happens five hundred
year thousand year floods, and it happened in the middle
of the night, and happened right along a basically church
camp that has been in Texas for nearly one hundred years,
(02:21):
just shy of one hundred years. I bet that many
of you in that area, many of you who are Texans,
may have gone, friends and family went there, Many young
wives lost. It is an awful, awful story there, and
unfortunately it immediately became a political ridiculousness. People trying to
(02:44):
blame President Trump, people trying to blame Trump voters Republicans,
and that happened almost instantaneously. Based on everything that I
have seen and read, and I tried to familiarize myself
to a great degree with this story, it's just a
cavalcade of really unfortunate events, in particular the fact that
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many of these alerts which all went out, were going
out in the middle of the night, and a lot
of people were sleeping, and the water rose so quickly
that before people were even aware that they were in danger,
many people found themselves standing in water, or even having
their homes in the places where they were staying near
(03:30):
the river underwater. In a way that just happened overnight,
And so I think there's going to be a lot
of discussion going forward about how do we handle some
of these situations in the future. I imagine a lot
of you out there experienced it yourself, and you're listening
to us right now. I shared a charity, I'll retweet
it that I've donated to that I would encourage a
(03:53):
lot of you if you want to give back to
this community. But Buck, I think the biggest unfortunate aspect
of this is that it happened in the middle of
the night. Everybody is sleeping. You may be getting these
alerts on your phones. You probably have the radio turned off.
And it just happened so quickly that it caught people.
(04:15):
A lot of people unaware the alerts were going out.
It was just most people were sleeping.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
There are a lot of analyzes already about what could
have been done to have avoided this, And I know
there's a lot of heartbreak for the families, for the communities,
and the girls at this camp, Mystic, which lost already
twenty seven of its girls, its campers, and counselors. I mean,
(04:43):
it's horrible beyond words, and our hearts break for those
who were affected by this. Clay I remember summer camp,
if it's so many of us, it's supposed to be
a time of joy, and like a lot of people,
some of their fond perhaps even fondest memories or summer
camps growing up. And to have something like this, a
tragedy like this hit that community, it's just unthinkable. Now
(05:05):
we have immediately what could have been done, and they're
still searching.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I know, so they're searching.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Rescue efforts are underway, and there have been some incredibly
brave first responder efforts that have saved a lot of
lives in this process. I mean they are pulling people,
have been pulling people out of trees, off of rooftops.
The photos, the imagery of these floods does bring home
pretty quickly to anybody, no matter where you are across
(05:32):
the country, around the world, just how violent and how
extreme these flood waters were. And also for anyone who's
been around or knows about this, it's more like a
wall of kind of mud and silt. A lot of
the time. It's a tremendous amount of debris in this water.
(05:53):
It moves fast, it comes in high, and there's a
lot of stuff in it as well, so it can
be very hard to to maneuver in. And so it's
it's obviously very lethal. I mean they've had clay. I
was reading about previous rescue attempts. I believe there was
a rescue attempt for a previous flood situation where the
where a bus full of people was swept away. So
(06:13):
they were trying to get people away from it, and
the bus itself got swept away. To give you a
sense of how houses disappear. Obviously, the camp uh, these
sort of camp grounds that these girls were in not
able to withstand this, and people are saying, well, how
could the warning have gone out sooner or what could
have been done differently? There's siren alarm systems that are
(06:38):
in place in neighboring counties that went off. There was
an effort to get a similar alarm system in place
in the county where Camp Mystic was was located, and
they didn't get the funding for it. Now would an
alarm system like that, right, there's alarms that go off
to your phone, there's the warnings, there's all these different
(06:59):
pieces come into play. But having sirens effectively like an
air raid siren situation, would that have changed this at
four am in this county, That's going to be something
that people look at, I think very closely. But the
timing of it could not have been worse in terms
of the casualties that would come from the event, because
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people are the most you know, the most likely to
be asleep, the least likely to be communicating with each
other in the area, and also the least able to
handle moving. I mean, it's just that the truth is,
any human being you wake them up at four o'clock
in the morning, they're moving more lethargically they're not thinking clearly,
and now you think about little kids at four am,
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and it's just a it's a horrific situation. And I
know that it's it's been a heartbreak for Texas and
for the whole country. Yeah, I think what you hit
on is something that's going to be talked about. I
turned my phone off a lot at night just because
I don't want to be woken up. And I do
you think that one of the things that they've tried
(08:03):
to do with tornadoes and tornadoes come through where I
live and have hit my hometown of Nashville recently in
a significant and deadly way. The tornado sirens are basically
impossible to ignore, and we have situations where people don't
get the notifications on their phones. Is there a flood
(08:26):
related siren that can be installed. I don't know the
answer to that, but I think that's the conversation that's
going to happen going forward.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Warning systems always have this. Look.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
I'm in Florida, the hurricane capital of America, right, and
you have Floridians who you're not going to get them
to move out of where you know. I know people
who have been here now they've obviously been alive for
fifty sixty seven years. They've been through a lot of hurricanes.
You're not getting them to move no matter what the yeah,
what the warning is, because they've been through. Look, we
(08:55):
just had this in Florida actually recently, where it was
this is the big one. It's gonna hit Tampa. Tampa
is going to be and then sure enough it actually
hit western hit my in laws area western North Carolina
much harder than it did the Tampa area in terms
of the damage and the casualties from it. So in
this case, Clay, if you have a lot of alarms
(09:16):
going off, a lot of warnings going off in a
place that is used to flooding, what then is the
threshold for Oh, no, we've got to get to high
ground right now, as opposed to the area that we're
in is having another flood right That's where you know
you can sense there's going to be some difficulty here
(09:39):
to figure out how this could be avoided. And then
also people, i think even Congressman Roy, who this is
this a lot of this happened in his district, Chip
Roy saying in an interview it's also a once in
a century event, So it's very hard to prepare appropriately
for what people call in probability analysis, a black swan
(10:01):
or a fat tale event. Right, fat tale is a
low probability, very high impact basically something that you don't
think is going to happen, but if it does happen,
it's really bad. Well, that is what the situation is
with these floods. So there'll be analysis of this. And
I don't even think, I don't know how much you
want to even talk about. There are people who have
come out and tried to politicize this right away, and
(10:22):
it's gross, it's pathetic, and it's really just evidence of
a political derangement, you know. I think it's much more
important for everybody to focus on the first respond to efforts,
the cert ongoing search and rescue efforts, and to really
look at this honestly and see what could have been
done to make sure that.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
This won't be done. This won't happen again in the future,
no doubt.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
And I think what you said too, sometimes we actually
over deliver in terms of, hey, there's a flood warning.
There's a flood warning, and sometimes the floods aren't that significant,
but there is a flood warning. I think, really what
happened here is it happened in the middle of the night,
(11:04):
and I just think people, you know, most of history,
you wouldn't have had a cell phone to be getting
alerts on If there is a way to sit around
and really contemplate this going forward when they are able
to fully have done all the recovery and all those efforts.
I do wonder whether one of the things that they
added here after the devastating tornadoes we've had is the sirens.
(11:28):
Is there a way to have sirens along the river
that notifies in a serious way when things like this
are happening because people are sleeping. I mean, I think
a lot of people frankly just got swept away in
the middle of the night, never even knew they were
in danger because the waters came up so fast here.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yes, so they'll look at this much more closely. The
experts will look at what could have been done here.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
But this.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Is true of a lot of natural disasters, which this
clearly is. If it's bad enough, if you're talking more
about casualty mitigation than casualty elimination, meaning you're not going
to be able to save everybody you're trying to save
as many people as possible, But when you're looking at
almost one hundred people in this area from flooding, that's
just the numbers just far too there's numbers far too
(12:17):
high for anyone to think that this system was sufficient
given the risk.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Factors, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Also, the holiday weekend probably increased the number of people,
sadly that we're camping on alongside of the banks and
the river, as many people were doing to celebrate with
their friends and family. So it really was the worst
possible scenario with timing, with date and everything else associated
with it. But our thoughts and prayers and we're going
(12:43):
to again. I'll retweet what I am told is a
very good charity that is local in the area that
I've supported, And if you're wanting to do something, you
can join this as well. If you want to call
in and share your thoughts on this, if you're live
in the area or you know people affected by it.
Lines obviously are open. We know we have our San
(13:04):
Antonio affiliate WOAI, which is a huge signal which.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Does reach into this area. We have some other signals
from smaller stations that are in the area. So if
you're listening and you want to fill us in on
just what you saw that happen yourself, or what you
know from people firsthand, what you're hearing about the search
and rescue and first responder efforts which are ongoing. I
believe they're still unfortunately expecting clay pretty heavy weather today,
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Speaker 2 (15:03):
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. We'll get
some of your calls here if you call in and
are from the area where these horrible plugs occurred, so
we'll get some of that here. Coming up in the
back half of this hour, I want to hear from you.
Our thoughts and prayers go out to the those effected,
the families and the community here of the Hill Country
of Texas. We've got a lot of news stories we're
(15:25):
going to get to over the course of today. Clay
mentioned the Shawn Combs verdict, which was no way around
it a huge, a huge win for Shawn Combs, which
is that he was only he was only found guilty
essentially of two prostitution charges, so paying prostitutes, which is
not something that people go away for long periods of
(15:46):
time generally. I know they say he faces up to
ten years in federal prison, but he's not. I don't
think he's going to get anywhere near that. Clay, We'll
see the judge could decide to make an example of
him on the lower counts, but I think that would
look given that the higher counts would could have sent
in a prison for life where acquittals, I don't think
we're going to see that. So Clin and I I
think on the overall trajectory of that, we got that
(16:08):
one right. We knew that was The Rico case was
super shaky because people think Rico, they think mobsters, They
don't think one guy who's paying prostitutes and obviously did
he did. He Sean Combs is sicko and a bad person,
but that doesn't necessarily send you a prison.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
So there's that.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
There's also the DOJ statement about the Epstein situation, which
we could talk about today and will. The DOJ and
the FBI have come out to say, without a whole
lot more explanation, Clay that there is no client list,
there was no blackmail operation, and Epstein killed himself. I
(16:46):
do not believe the first part of that.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
I don't. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I know that our people are in charge now and
there's good people that are looking into this. And now
that doesn't mean that I'm not suggesting anyone's in on
it or covering it up at the Senior Life, DOJ
or FBI. Now, m clay, I think you and I
can see that well. I believe and I think you're
with me on this that a lot of this stuff
was a lot of the evidence, the tapes, et cetera
(17:12):
was destroyed and erased a long time ago, which has
always been my concern, and so they don't have it.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, and my thing from the get go is it's
hard to become worth hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars.
Most people who are worth hundreds and hundreds of millions
of dollars and make it in their life. You go
back and you look, I'm not talking about becoming a millionaire.
This guy was nearly a billionaire. Usually you have to
(17:39):
build something. What did he build?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
He was given in a sixty or seventy million dollar
house given, So explain this to me, everybody, this guy anyway,
there's a lot. I'm just telling you right now. We
can get into it. I don't buy it, Guys, I
don't buy it. I don't accept the DOJ response on this.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah, we'll get into this in a sect because the
other part of this is they gave him a sweetheart
deal before all of this came out. Anyway, we'll dive
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Welcome back in Clay Rabits Buck Sexton Show. We're gonna
be joined just texting with Congressman Ship Roy, who represents
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the area of Texas that was destroyed in so many
ways this weekend the flooding. We know we're on in
Curvell Or know that many of you are listening to
us right there that have been dealing with the tragedy there.
We will get the absolute latest, uh in the third
hour of the program as as we break all that down,
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so that will be coming, that will be coming your way. Uh,
And we will break all of that down. Now, we
mentioned the the Epstein news, So here's what I would
say in general, off the top. I don't believe that
this guy could have become wealthy on the level that
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he is wealthy based on what I have seen by
just being an investment guy in New York. That means
there's never been something that he created that is incredibly
valuable in order usually to end up with hundreds of
millions of dollars. You're not just a money manager. And
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all of this was super shady. And I'll start with
the part that has always not made sense to me.
If you go back to the original basically deferred prosecution
agreement when they gave him house arrest, the one that
everybody got angry about as more details about Epstein came out.
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It's never made sense to me that he got such
preferential treatment in the state of Florida that first time,
before we even get into the story becoming bigger.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
So Annie McCarthy, who we've had on the show many times,
who was a prosecutor in the Southern District of New
York for over twenty years, okay, a federal prosecutor. When
I talked to him years ago about this, said, have
you ever heard of the deal that was given to Remember,
the deal was so favorable that a Trump administration in
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the first administration, cabinet official. I think it was at
the I don't want to say because I don't want
to get it wrong, but there was a cabinet level official,
not like a Secretary of State level, but I think
it was a labor department had to step down because
he had previously. Guys, give me the name of the
US attorney for I think it was the Southern District
of Florida who signed off on this because he had
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previously been involved in the Epstein plea deal. Okay, so
that's how argreeious it was. But I asked Andy, I said,
have you ever heard of a federal criminal by the way,
you know, sex criminal case where somebody was able to
get immunity for future unnamed collaborators. And he said, no,
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I've never heard of that, because why would any prosecutor
give that to somebody as part of a plea bargain.
There's no reason to do that. Epstein got that in
that deal as part of the and it was incredibly
I mean, the guy was was you know, I mean,
the stuff he was doing is it's just horrible. He's
paying girls who were I think as young as thirteen,
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fourteen years old. I mean stuff that would get a
person sent away for decades and decades, maybe forever for
And he got like six months of showing up to
like the county jail basically and you know, sitting at
a desk.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
I mean it was and being able to go home.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Somebody.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
It was crazy, the deal, Okay, So someone explained to
me why he got that deal. Someone explained to me
how this wasn't of higher interest to the authorities in
the state of Florida at the time. Now, the Palm
Beach County prosecutor. Remember federal, he got nailed on federal.
He could have been nailed on for by Palm Beach
County Clay. You go on and on with this stuff.
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All the houses are set up with surveillance cameras. I mean,
I shouldn't say surveillance.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
It's really more.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
You know, in interior, so it's not like external cameras.
The rooms are micd up. Okay, He's got his own
bedrooms and everything else in massage, parlor room and all
this stuff miked up. And I talked about this before
they had the FBI raid the New York home which
he was given, which is worth like sixty to eighty
million dollars depending. I mean, it's like the most extravagant
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home anybody could ever live in on the Upper East
Side of Manhattan. He was given this home to your
point about where the money was made play and.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
The FBI breaks in.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
They find that he has tapes which the FBI lost
custody of matter of public record. He has tapes that
are in a.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Safe which is hidden in a wall.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Which the FBI broke. Who keep If he's just making
home videos of himself, why would he keep the home
videos in a safe in the wall. Like it makes
no sense.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
All of it doesn't add up. And then we've also
had statements made. Let me just play a couple of
these that I think are going to be difficult to
walk back in the wake of this. Now, I think
it's fair to say I don't think cash Ptel, I
don't think Dan Bongino. I think a lot of this
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evidence was gone right. I think they wiped it clean.
I don't think there's some sort of cover up on
behalf of the either of these guys, but I do
think this was Pam Bondi On February twenty first of
twenty twenty five, saying she's got the Epstein client list
on her desk right now and she's reviewing it, and
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then I'm going to play another cut later. They have
suggested that there was going to be a major revelation
and basically there's now nothing here. They're saying, cut one.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Doj maybe releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients?
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Well, that really happen.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
It's sitting on my desk right now to review. That's
been a directive by President Trump.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
I'm reviewing that.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
I'm reviewing JFK files, MLK files. That's all in the
process of being reviewed because that was done at the
directive of the president from all of these agencies.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
So so have you seen anything that you said, Oh
my gosh, not yet.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Okay, So to be fair, not yet.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
And let me also say this, the client list some
of these people, and that this also goes with the
airplane flights. And just because you were on a private
jet doesn't mean that I mean, we've talked with Alan
Dershowitz about this. It doesn't mean that you were engaged
in some sort of awful behavior. Right there are a
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lot of people who flew on these jets they had
ten people named on them, all these different things, but
there was the idea that there were going to be
revelations that were more significant. Here is I think in
March cut thirty another one from PAMBONDI.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
Listen, you're looking at these documents, going, these aren't all
the Epstein files. You know, there were flight logs, there
were names and victims' names, and we're going, where's the
rest of the stuff. That's what the FBI had turned
over to us. And so a source said, oh, all
this evidence is sitting in the Southern District of New York.
So based on that, I gave them the deadline Friday
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at eight, a truckload of evidence arrive. It's now in
the possession of the FBI. Cash is going to get
me and himself really a detailed report as to why
all these documents and evidence had been withheld, and you know,
we're going to go through it, go through it as
fast as we can, but go through it very cautiously
to protect all the victims of Epstein, because there are
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a lot of victims.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Okay, So now those are two different cuts. And now
on Friday, was it Sunday night, in the midst of
all the other chaos going on, lots of news over
the weekend, over the holiday. They say, yeah, there's nothing
else here this story. And also they put up a video,
they say from outside of the hallway saying, hey, he
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did commit suicide. Here is a video doesn't have the.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Nor I am you know, I wonder where you are
on this. We haven't talked about this before. The suicide thing.
I am willing to believe. I'm I can't you believe
that to be true? And I do think and I'm
very aware of the guy falling asleep and the cameras
and you know, it's an extreme coincidence situation. So don't
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yell at me for this because I'm aware of the
that I can. I'm like, maybe this actually is the
only guy to ever commit suicide of the m's. I'm
like talking myself out of this as we're discussing it,
but that I could but that I could maybe find credible.
I mean, I talked to uh, I talked to I
remember a former Attorney General Barr, I believe about this
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when they did the review and he said, look, it's
I thought it was very sketchy too, but this is
what happened. Okay, that was, But the Epstein wasn't running
a blackmail operation, and he was the only guy involved
with any of these He was the only guy we
are to believe other than the one royal right, the
English guy, Prince Andrew, the only guy who is alleged
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to have been involved with any of these underage girls
as part of this trafficking slash blackmail scheme. I just
don't find that credible. I just don't find that credible.
I don't And I also sit here and say, this guy,
to your point, he's worth they found I think it
was six or seven hundred million dollars that this guy
had amassed. Where the where'd the money come from? This
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is all wire transfers, this is all trackable. He didn't
make it trading the market. For him to make this
money trading the market play, he would have to be
the biggest financial genius in the history of the stock market.
It's just not possible.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
There's always you can become a millionaire just by doing
smart things with your money. You might even be able
to come ten or fifteen millionaire. Right as a normal person.
You don't become hundreds of millions of dollars wealthy without
creating something, right, Like, there has to be some lynch
pin too.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
He would have to be managing if you were managing,
you know, a multi billion dollar hedge fund, which would
have sec scrutiny and would have all kinds of regulatory
burden and would have investors and.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
What do you know? That's right?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Okay, then then you know, maybe he's a guy who
is managing money, who's got the super sketch you know,
super criminal and awful uh private life.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
But he just did this on his own quietly. There's
just no way. There's just no Everyone I know on
Wall Street will say this if you ask them. There's
no way.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
This guy just made this money. So it's not a
blackmail operation, but we don't know where the money came from.
And also he's able to get the Honestly, let's let's
just put it out there. The richest and most powerful
people on the planet, some of them, some of the
richest and most powerful people on the planet, are willing
to hang out with this guy and willing to go
to his like weird little island.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean they're.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Asking a lot here that this was it was just him.
He was just doing his thing and there's nothing else involved.
I just I don't buy it.
Speaker 6 (30:02):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
I don't accept that this is what happened. So the
DJ can say it, and maybe that's based on the
information they have. I do not accept this explanation. We'll
take some of your calls, by the way.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
I do think that there has been a build up
of Jeffrey Epstein as the ultimate boogeyman, and it is
also possible that they've played into this. I mean, they
had the influencers that they brought in, and they gave
them the little files with basically no information, and they
posed for photos.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
I would they die?
Speaker 6 (30:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Why would they do that, Clay? If there was nothing?
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Why was there like Epstein you know file release day
at the White House which we all saw, which was
not a good moment for this DJ.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
What was that? Yeah? And I agree.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Can we get an explanation too if these questions can
be answered? And maybe they can and maybe you know,
And I'm just gonna say, I do I know Cash,
I know Dan. I have tremendous faith in those guys
and their integrity, and I'm not impugning either their integrity.
I think that they're doing everything that they can based
on what they have. Yes, I think a lot of
what they have is less than what was out there.
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I think that there's been a cleanup operation that's been
going on for a very long time. But maybe there
are answers to the questions I put forward that will
be presented, But until someone can tell me definitively how
the money all came together, what was on the surveillance tapes,
and how this guy was able to get away with
what he got away with which no other person in
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the history of the criminal justice system had been able
to I do not accept this explanation.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
We'll take some of your calls on this. Chip Roy
is going to join us at the top of the
third hour. He's congressman representing the area of Texas, which, unfortunately,
you're probably headed towards one hundred or more people that
ended up dying in those floods. I think the official
death tally is now well over eighty if I'm not mistaken,
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and there's still a lot of people missing. So we
will talk about that with him. Get you the latest.
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Welcome back in here to clay On buck lines are
all lit. Let's get to it right away. Appreciate you
being with us, everybody. Uh, let's say, Joeann in Kerrville, Texas. Joanne,
you are in the area where these terrible floods happen.
What can you tell us?
Speaker 6 (33:43):
Hi? I can tell you several things about it. First
of all, one of the things that has been extremely
hard is the fact that this area has been in
a drought situation for a couple of years, and many
people in the area has been praying for rain. And
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when we went to bed December on two ly to third,
we were looking forward to attending a concert on the river,
and we were also expecting that that would go off fine,
that there would be wonderful fireworks. Unfortunately, that is the
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night that were our prayers for rain were answered.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
All right, So what did you when did you become aware?
You're in Kerville when you it's raining obviously hard, people
are sleeping. When did you become aware, Hey, this is
a major, major, awful situation.
Speaker 6 (34:46):
The next morning, when I woke up so.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
You didn't even though the alerts might have been coming.
Like you just happened to be in an area that
did not flood, but you knew it was raining but
had no idea how bad it was.
Speaker 6 (35:01):
That is partially true. Yes, I do live in an
area where some areas of my neighborhood were flooded. I
was not affected by it, as I had screener I lived.
I live about two and a half blocks from the river.
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All of the fourth of July. Things were to take
place the next day.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Well, thank you think an early warning system would have
made a difference, or a different I should say, a
different early warning system.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
No, I do not, all right, thank you, Jaaul. Fred
take an Ingram Texas here. Let's see what Fred, you
went through it? Do you agree with Joe Anne? Is
your experience similar to hers? Fred?
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Somewhat?
Speaker 6 (35:47):
So?
Speaker 4 (35:47):
When I woke up at three o'clock in the morning,
I lived as a crow flies maybe a half a
mile away from the Guadmoupe and Ingram, I got up
and it was raining and just moderate And at seven
o'clock in the morning I got a phone call, is
it really flooding that bad? And I walked out and
looked at my rain gage and I will received three
and a half inches of rain. What the problem was
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is that that side of that hurricane sat installed over
the north and south fork of the Guadalupe, and it
dumped over twelve thirteen inches of rain from what we've
been told, and that's what happened. It just washed straight
down a stream and there was no time, no time
for anybody to do anything because there was a warning,
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we're in a flood warning. But I was sitting outside
that night and there was no rain, no nothing.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Wow, not even thank you for the call.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
I think you and I would agree on this, buck,
no matter who the president was, the number of people
that unfortunately died from this incident were going to happen.
I think trying to blame politics in any ways just
flat out untrue, unfair,
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