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September 5, 2025 36 mins

In Hour 1 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, Clay and Buck dive into a fast-paced and wide-ranging discussion of the day’s top political, cultural, and economic stories. The hour kicks off with a preview of upcoming guests, including Florida Surgeon General Dr. Joseph Ladapo, who will join the show to discuss Florida’s vaccine mandate policies and their broader implications for public health and personal freedom. The hosts speculate on Ladapo’s potential role in the Trump administration, highlighting his rising influence in conservative circles.

The economic segment focuses on the latest U.S. jobs report, revealing a slowdown in hiring with only 22,000 jobs added in August. Clay and Buck analyze inflation’s lingering effects under President Biden, emphasizing how price hikes have reshaped consumer expectations and daily costs—from fast food to coffee. They argue that although inflation has cooled, the damage to household budgets remains embedded, creating a political challenge for President Trump’s current administration.

The show also covers breaking news about a Supreme Court case that could impact presidential authority over tariffs, potentially reversing nearly a trillion dollars in collected revenue. Clay and Buck explore the legal and economic ramifications of this decision.

In a cultural deep dive, the hosts react to Malcolm Gladwell’s recent comments on transgender athletes in women’s sports. They contrast his late admission with JK Rowling’s longstanding stance, praising Rowling’s courage and criticizing Gladwell’s perceived opportunism. This sparks a broader conversation about cancel culture, free speech, and the left’s dominance in media and advertising.

Listeners weigh in via talkback messages, voicing frustration over rising costs, streaming service fragmentation in sports broadcasting, and the political decline of Democrat-run cities. Clay and Buck respond with humor and insight, discussing the challenges of modern media consumption and the importance of building conservative-friendly businesses like Crockett Coffee.

The hour wraps with a lively segment on pop culture and politics, including news of a UFC fight planned for the White House South Lawn in 2026, complete with weigh-ins at the Lincoln Memorial. Clay sees this as a bold move to energize young male voters, while Buck warns of the precedent it sets for future administrations. The hosts also reflect on cultural icons like Michael Jordan and the evolution of fashion trends, tying it all back to the influence of media and celebrity on American life.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody to the Friday edition of the Clay Travis
and Buck Sexton Show. We are racked and stacked on
this Friday. That's right. It is time, my friends, to
dive into all of it. It is September, so no
more afternoon nap time because it's summer. Everybody. We got
a nation to save, we got a world to solve.

(00:20):
We got things to do, and we're doing it right now.
Florida Surgeon General, Joseph doctor, real doctor, not a Joe
Biden doctor, Doctor Joseph Ladipae, will be with us talk
about Florida's vaccine mandate situation. It's a little more complicated
than someone with the headline suggests. We want to hear
from the man himself, doctor Latipo, Florida Surgeon General. And

(00:43):
I think somebody that you may very well see somewhere
in the Trump administration over the course of the four years.
We'll see if we can ask them about that. Our
buddy Denisse Desuza has another film, that Dragon's Prophecy. He'll
talk to us about that in the third hour. Remember
yesterday I said they'll make good films anymore. Well, well,
there are some independent films conservative filmmakers out there are

(01:04):
doing cool stuff. So we'll talk to Denesh about his
movie just in the realm of We got to cover
it because it's out and news today. Not a whole
lot to say about it. You got hiring stalled, uish
economy out of twenty two thousand jobs in August, a
little bit of a summer slow down, but no big deal.

(01:24):
Don't panic. It's all gonna be fine. No pannikins, Clay allowed.
We have a no Panikins policy. I might have to
get a no panicins sign whenever we talk about the economy.
You surely don't panic. Mister Clay over there telling everybody
when the market was getting shell ACKed earlier this year,
don't don't run for the lifeboats, stay on the icon
of the seas or whatever your preferred vessel is, and

(01:47):
you'll be fine. So Clay, do you do you see
any I got something else we're going to dive into
in a second, but just your quick reaction to jobs report.
Where the economy is heading right now, how it's all looking.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Jerome was laid again and they're going to cut rates
in September. He was wrong in allowing the overall in
the overall inflation rate to get to nine point one,
sorry one percent during Biden. And I think the biggest
issue that Trump faces in terms of sort of vibe
for lack of a better way to describe it, is

(02:22):
people are still angry because prices went up so fast
under Biden. I mean to me, that is a lot
of people are out there and they're saying, well, prices
haven't come back down, and I think the challenge is
prices never come back down.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Ever.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
This is the pernicious nature of inflation. Once prices go up,
they are inflated, and the new normal becomes whatever those
prices are. The best you can do is try to
get back to normalcy. And we are back to normalcy.
But trust me, I've been saying this for years. Every
time I go through a fast food restaurant drive through

(02:59):
with my kids, Chick fil A is usually our preferred place.
The amount of money that it costs me makes me
shake my head. It doesn't feel right, and people have
sort of internal calculators in their head for what something
should cost. Coffee in the morning, a trip to a
fast food restaurant with your kids, a pizza, and all

(03:20):
of it is wildly out of sorts. With what it
should have been if Biden hadn't gotten elected and screwed
up everything. So I think there's a lingering hangover effect,
for lack of a better way of describing it, for
the massive run up and inflation that we saw, and
it's going to take years for people to recognize that
things start to feel normal again.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Does that make sense? And so I think that's going
to be going on. Even if what you say, and
I think what you say on this is correct, even
if it's economically true, it can still be politically a problem.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Right.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
It is Trump's economy now, So the Democrats are going
to try to pounce on this. They don't care that Biden.
It's like blaming that like Republicans are good blame when
the debts thirty seven trillion dollars, but when it was
thirty six point five trillion, Democrats had no problem.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Right.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
I mean, there's going to be some of that gamesmanship
going on here. But bottom line is, I think the
economy is still very strong, going to better places, and
I am I am optimistic. Although I will say we
didn't discuss this. The Trump team looking at tariffs, or
rather the Supreme Court is supposed to look at tariff's.
Trump team had an appeals decision that went against them,
and now there's the possibility that this tariff stuff may

(04:30):
be undone by judges saying the president doesn't have the authority.
That's a mess. That's a mess. So I don't know
what that's going to do. But this is in the
are we really we really want to see what happens
if almost a trillion dollars in collected money, what are
we going to give it back to these countries? It's crazy.
So we'll see two other stories, by the way, that
are high up on the radar for US, just to

(04:52):
put a pin in them. The mayor of DC, it's
like I told you all from the beginning, kind of
likes Trump's crime crackdown, kind of likes it. We got
a story on that, want to scoop on that. And
the US is deploying ten fire jets jets to Puerto Rico,
I think to maybe blow up more cartel drug ships,

(05:13):
which is uh, they're serious about this, And Pete Heggs
at the Secretary of Defense spoke directly about it, but
Clay had had to go to this one. We had
quite a robust discussion yesterday about Malcolm Gladwell, and we
discussed that he has come out and said and he
admitted that he was too cowardly to say the truth.
That's not saying that he believed it and now has

(05:34):
learned more new facts of facts have come in. He
just said, look, I'm too much of I was too
much of a wimp about trans men competing against women
in sports. And I said to you, well, do we
give credit, Clay or do we have to look at
this as pure opportunism? Right? JK. Rowling, who you and
I both hold in high regard. The Harry Potter author

(05:55):
wrote this about the situation. I want to get Clay's reaction.
Gladwell's career wouldn't have been destroyed if he spoke out
against the glaring unfairness, not to mention dangers of allowing
men to compete in women's sports. He'd have faced the
loss of approval from the cultural elite and received activist blowback,
and even that wouldn't have come with the tsunami of
death and rape threats women face when they speak out.

(06:18):
Non famous people, mostly women, girls, and gay people, have
genuinely had their careers and lives destroyed for saying what
Gladwell was too pusillanimous to say, and he didn't lift
a finger in their defense. She goes on and on.
He hasn't changed. He merely sends to shift in what
is acceptable to say and feels safe to align himself

(06:40):
with a new consensus excusing his previous behavior. He isn't
an ally, He's a weather vein clay off the top rope.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
We talked about this, I believe with Vin Shapiro and
I think one of the most challenging things out there
is when do you get grace and when do you not?

Speaker 1 (07:03):
And I love JK.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Rowling because, as we said and have said for some time,
she had no reason to need to do this. She
is publishing royalty she could have after she wrote the
Harry Potter books, which are fantastic. My ten year old
is reading them now. I bet a lot of your
kids and grandkids may have not been readers, and if

(07:28):
they do become readers later in life, it's often because
you get them started at an early age with the
gift of learning what books can bring to their lives.
And you and I were both huge readers at young ages.
I would say, if I can give any advice on
education at all, it's get your kids to read. I

(07:49):
think it's going to become even more important in an
AI era, where having the ability to distinguish truth from
fiction and real from fake is going to become maybe
the most important skill set that a child can have
and that a young adult can have. And I would
say that exists.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Now.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Look, I live to this, and all I can tell
you is, I don't think the full story on the
power of the left to take over advertising marketing and
recognize it as a area that they can control and
dominate all this discourses. It's a cultural and economic choke point,

(08:29):
a huge one. I don't think most people will even
still understand it. And so I live this. I told
you guys, I was I had a.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Multi million fan and you would think would be about
beer drinking sports fans, But apparently they're about transgender guys,
you know, smashing volleyballs in the girl's faces. But Clay,
what do you think about this assessment from J K.
Rowling because she kind of she kind of ripped Gladwell's
face off with this one. Let's be honest. I mean,
she went she went for the juggular here. She was

(08:59):
not and around well.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
I think it's particularly interesting because I would see them
as in many ways contemporaries, by which I mean I
would bet JK. Rowing is basically the best selling fiction
author of her generation.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
I think she's the first author billionaire from actual works
created as an author. I think she is that has
that title, and I would submit, you, said Michael Lewis.
But I would bet Malcolm Gladwell has sold more copies
of nonfiction books than almost anybody of his generation. Certainly
he's worth I would bet hundreds of millions of dollars

(09:33):
because of his books. When I read this you sent
it to me this morning, I hadn't seen it yet.
It actually to me read as she knows that he's
a fraud on a personal level. Yes, yes, we been
talking about this beforehand, but I think she knows stuff.
Go ahead, So I just thunder. You're right when.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
When sometimes if you see a particular venom from people
in public life, it's because, Hey, I'm not going there
fully about what I know about you, but I'm not
going to give you grace because I know you're full
of it. I've never met Malcolm Gladwell, I have no
relationship with him. I have no knowledge of him on
a personal level. I've enjoyed several of his books. That's

(10:14):
my full scope. I've never met jk Rowling. I don't
know anything about her. I find it hard to believe
that the two of them, given their prominence in the
writing communities, would not have cross paths and or be
in some way knowledgeable of each other's personal as well
as professional wives. And so this feels to me like

(10:34):
she knows or has felt for some time that he's
a fraud, different in public than in private, because it's
such a takedown to me. It doesn't read as someone
just has a different political opinion than me. It reads
as this guy's a total fraud who is truly a
weather vein, and you can't trust him, and she's basically

(10:55):
coming after him for that reason. So I think it's
bigger than the disagreement, right, And.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
So that the thing that I totally agree with here
in your assessment is that she was on a panel
or saw him with someone on a panel. I mean,
I even saw Matt Tayibe, who was a man solidly
of the left as a writer, but because he has
approached things with some journalistic objectivity and honesty, he has

(11:24):
found himself in agreement with the right more and more,
a little bit like Glenn Greenwald for example. Like Glenn
is I completely disagree with him on some things, Israel
being one of them. But when you talk about First
Amendment and free speech stuff and government transparency, he agrees
with a lot of people on the right about a
lot of stuff and the deep state. But Tayeebee also

(11:45):
went after Gladwell, which I thought was interesting for basically
calling Matt Tayebe a racist. So the knives are out
a bit here. It was interesting to see. By the way,
to your point, I checked this out. Michael Lewis has
sold about ten million copies, which is for an author, unbelievable.
That's a lot. Gladwell has sold almost twenty five million,

(12:09):
so a lot. The guys sold a lot of books. Yeah,
so do you get me?

Speaker 2 (12:14):
They definitely. And by the way, sometimes this stuff happens
behind the scenes where whatever you think about both you
and me, I've never been an anonymous source like I
tell you basically for better or words, exactly what I think. Yeah,
there are people like and I'm saying I don't think JK.
Rowling is tiptoeing up to anything. I think she's saying

(12:36):
exactly what she believes to be true. Sometimes people like
Gladwell are very political behind the scenes and they're pulling
levers and they're trying to say.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Oh, I didn't have any idea that was going to happen.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Really, everybody knows these people who are They present one
way face to face, but then you find out you've
been getting stabbed in the back by them secretly sort of.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
In the it's called working in the media. It's called
working in the media.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yes, So to me, I read this and I thought,
she's not giving him grace because she knows he is
unworthy of receiving grace. And uh and so I read that,
and I gotta tell you.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
A JK.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Rowley, I never would have expected that a British lady
who wrote books about sorcerers and wizards and you know,
child children's fantasy would ever be the savage that she
is in the world of of of of consumer culture
and political opinion. But my goodness, I love her. I'd

(13:34):
love to meet her at some pome you have her
on the show. I think that would be amazing. We'll
reach out. I mean, she's a billionaire, so her time
is probably pretty valuable. We'll try, but I would say,
think Drum's a billionaire. He calls any anx outles, so
maybe maybe JK, we'll call in. I would say, though,
she sees what this brain virus which and I don't

(13:54):
mean just transgenderism, I mean the brain virus of of
forced lying and forced falsification in society. She sees what
it's doing to the UK, and I think it makes
her deeply sad for her home country because it's winning
over there. You see, it's a different context. Everyone here,
we still are on the air. Trump is in charge,

(14:16):
Conservatism is ascendant right now, or the right. Let's just
say the right is ascendant in this country in this moment.
In the UK, it's turning into a route, a route
against free speech, a route against secure borders, a route
against basic truth. And I think she's very concerned because
she sees that that's happening.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
I think that's one hundred percent right.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
And honestly, if you read her books, which I have
and which I would encourage you to buy for your
kids and grandkids, much of the book honestly is focused
with what happens when freedom of speech vanishes, when the
media can't be trusted. I mean if you read this
in the context in which she is living in England.
She addressed this as part of her books in a

(14:59):
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(18:18):
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a lot of talkbacks, a lot of emails. Let's have
a discussion about it, my friends. Remember the talk back

(19:00):
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(19:24):
from Florida.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
Hey, Clay and Buck, this is Rob from West Palm.
I know that Buck will be following mister Pickles this weekend.
But Clay, I have a question for you. Is it
right for the NFL to give out all of these
games to these different streaming services? You have to watch
one game on YouTube, one game on Paramount, and another

(19:46):
streaming service. I don't think it's right on us.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
I appreciate first.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
First of all, I bet that huge majorities of you
listening right now watched last night the Philadelphia Eagles beat
the Dallas cow Boys. But two thirds of our prize
Picks Week one pick Saquon Barkley touchdown as Buck likes
to call him, Sequan got the touchdown for us, and.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Sequan always comes through for me, as does mister Pickles.
Mister Pickles was on the field last night. George Pickens
for those of you who missed when Buck tried to
give out a prize Picks pick when I was out
and said George Pickles instead of George Pickens, and then
we got the over the more on yardage for ceedee lamb.
So if Josh Allen passes for more than one and

(20:34):
a half touchdowns, which I think you will on Sunday
Night four to one, boom winner to start the season,
good start, all right. So I hope you guys used
price picks co Clay. I don't know if you're like this, Buck,
I am getting. I know I'm getting to be somewhat
of a grumpy old man. I want to have one
remote control that is automatically allowing me to watch whatever

(20:59):
I want to watch on or the sun and when
I have to go walk in to multiple different devices,
multiple different streaming services. They sold us on this idea
that when cable vanished, it would save you money. Right,
But now, I don't know how many things you subscribe to, Bluck,
just off the top of my head, and I've got

(21:19):
three boys, and I think my wife subscribes to every
subscription service on the planet. I have Netflix. We have
in the household, Netflix, Amazon, Peacock, whatever the other paramount.
We have Amazon Prime. I don't think we have Apple TV.
I think that's the only one we haven't subscribed yet.
Plus I still have Comcast and so I sit down

(21:41):
and one of the things I have to do now
is yell for one of my kids to be like, hey,
how do I get the game? Can you just figure
out how to put the game on? Please?

Speaker 2 (21:50):
And they know how to do it because their just
has to wave the white flag in front of the kids.
So I agree with our tuckback guy there. It has
gotten way too complicated. And it's not just sports, it's
just streaming in general. I don't feel like we're saving money.
I don't feel like we're benefiting. They're charging us more
and giving us less and moreover, it is not an

(22:10):
ease of product issue. So I bet most of you
out there agree with me, to say nothing of the
fact that if you just go streaming, you're like a
minute behind the actual game. So I have buddies texting
me sometimes a minute ahead, two or three plays ahead.
I can follow on an app the score cast and

(22:31):
be behind. So anyway, I'm fired up about this. We
got a lot of talkbacks. This is Neil in North
Carolina talking let's see bb Hey guys.

Speaker 5 (22:40):
Neil in North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
I just wanted to say I agree with Clay completely.

Speaker 5 (22:44):
I think it's time for everyone who's even a little
bit sane to abandon these moronic, idiot Democrat run cities
and states, Let them make their bad decisions and earn
so that we can come back later and rebuild something
that they destroyed.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Look, this is not arguing, Buck w R.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Not happy, not happy with me some of them, although
some of them agree with me when I say, you
just got to let the Democrats stew in their stupidity,
and we're trying to fight so hard to save them
from themselves when they're making the choices.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
That what ends up happening. First of all, Neil is
calling in from North Carolina, which is very on the
edge as a red state. Okay, it's I know, I
know Trump has made it solidly red, but North Carolina
is not exactly a sure thing for for the you know,
for the rest of our time as a red state.

(23:41):
So that's part one of this. Okay, So you got
problems in North Carolina that you got to deal with
politically speaking, I'm just saying I love North Carolina, but
you got a lot of Democrats there. And then the
other part of this, Clay is allowing consolidation of Democrat
control completely unopposed in cities and even worse in blue states.
Just mean, it's like it's like seating your fortresses or

(24:01):
your castles to the other side and then wondering why
you can't win the war. Why why do Democrats? Why
are they able to be as insane as they are? Well,
big part of it is they flip California blue, and
now they start out with a state with forty million
people in it voting entirely blue in national elections. So
I hate to say it, but you know, it's a

(24:22):
little bit like saying, just keep dropping back and punting. Eventually, Clay,
you're gonna get tackled for a safety.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
That is a analogy. By the way, this is pretty cool.
We're talking about culture.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
By the way, can I say Clay watched me doing
that one? He's like he was watching a hippopotamus on
a unicycle. He's like, is he gonna say he's running
a pick six? Like, what's gonna happen here? I didn't
know how that was gonna end. Ah.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
There they are saying this is gonna be so cool,
you know the US literally this just dropped as we
were talking about culture in the impact Trump is having
the UFC fight on the south one of the White House.
You know, they are now firming up the details of this.
They're doing the way ends at the Lincoln Memorial. They

(25:07):
are going to have a huge on the steps of
the Lincoln. Buck is gonna lose it UFC. This is
according to the Hill. They are going to do weigh
ends for the UFC fight at the Lincoln Memorial. In
the fight's gonna be in June of twenty twenty six. Fireworks,

(25:27):
light shows, fire weigh ends at the Lincoln Memorial. Fan
activities spread out across the National Mall for what may
be the most secure sporting event in the history of
maybe American sports, and the octagon cage is going to
be on the South Lawn. I just I understand some

(25:50):
of you out there say, hey, this is crazy. What
young men generations of young men are going to see
this and be They're gonna vote Republican for the next
twenty years. They're gonna be like, this is awesome, this
is incredible. And I understand some of you out there,
including potentially Buck sex than himself, are gonna say this

(26:12):
is this is ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
I'm telling you, I think it's kind of genius. Okay,
I'm willing to let this one play out. I would
say that's where I am to see what we're going
for here, because keep in mind, there will be a
time at which there's Democrat president again, and and now
we're we're kicking the door wide open for you know,
Taylor Swift on the on the White House lawn, you

(26:36):
know concert as part. I mean this just this is
gonna the line between entertainment and politics, I think is
essentially obliterated already maybe, but it's gonna get even more
linked together. And unfortunately, there are a lot of annoying
celebrities on the left, So just just get ready for that.
It's gonna happen down the line. I'm just saying there's
a precedent here. I'm not saying anything bad about the UFC.

(26:58):
Idea here could be amazing, could be great. But the
other side is going to do this stuff at some
point too. I hope that Clay's right in that this
will have long term political implications for us. I'm not
quite as sure. I just feel like at the way
and maybe they should dress you know, like powdered wigs
and uh and breeches, you know. Thomas Jefferson and uh
and uh George Washington style or something like that. The

(27:19):
whole hure of powdered wigs, you know about this is
like a really this is kind of a weird. But
but you know, the why they started wearing powdered wigs,
they it was because there was so much baldness because
of uh there's what's the venereal disease that cause syphilis?
I think, yeah, causes baldness, and so a lot of

(27:39):
men started wearing powdered wigs as a way of covering
up the baldness they had from long term syphilis. And
then it just became a fashion.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Now if I'm if I just read that on the
internet and that's wrong, let me know, but I believe
that is in fact the case, which is I mean,
you know, you'll never look at those powdered wigs the
same way. You're like, wow, that's how that happened.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Okay, Well, syphilis eventually made you insane, So that's a
tough one to deal with.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
It's not that everybody who wore a powdered wig hat syphilis,
but it's that it became fashionable, I believe in France first,
but of course but it became fashionable because you had
enough men who were wearing these things to cover up
their baldness that they turned it into a trend.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
One of my favorites. So this is also a baldness
trend that became popular. Michael Jordan made shaving bald head right.
How popular was Michael Jordan For those of you out
there that do not remember this, Michael Jordan had really
bad balding and so he could have gone old school
like black man with like half an afro, which was

(28:45):
not a good look. I think, sorry bald black men,
but who may still have I don't even think anybody
has the half the afro, you know, that's the receding hairline.
He shaved his head bald because he was going bald. Hey,
lebron maybe would have been a good move by the
and it was so popular Michael Jordan was that guys
with full heads of hair started to shave off all

(29:10):
of their hair so they could have a bald head
like Michael Jordan. Think about how amazing that is. This
guy made mel pattern baldness the preferred choice. Jesse Kelly,
he just need it needs to be the Michael Jordan
and I knew Jesse Kelly, all seven feet of him.
We're about to get thrown on the bost By playoffs.
So a tall, balding man much like Michael Jordan, maybe
if he just went full shaved head dome, he could

(29:33):
for white men, dude, for bald men what Michael Jordan
did for black men, which was black guys who had
otherwise perfect hair decided to take it off because Jordan's
male pattern baldness of going bald. That's how cool Michael
Jordan was. He made baldness cool.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Michael Jordan's coolness is the memory for me other than
being a long suffering Knicks fan who just watched all
of our hopes and dreams get ripped from us by
Michael Jordan time and time again, usually in the Eastern
Conference NBA Finals. But John Starks just couldn't get it done.

Speaker 6 (30:03):
For me.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
I was such a John Starks fan, just couldn't get
it done. I remember that the Air Jordans were so
such a cultural icon, and I always wanted and they
would come out with a new one every year. And
I played basketball in grammar school. I was not a
good basketball player. You don't have to send me all
of your like I played d you won basketball like
I played like eighth grade basketball. Okay, but I remember
in those years, if you showed up play to my

(30:25):
little Catholic school and you didn't have the new Air Jordans,
oh yeah, people were gonna like people are gonna you
had to have them. If you didn't have them, it's
like you weren't a serious basketball player, even at age
thirteen or fourteen. And of course my dad was very thrifty,
and so we would go into foot locker and his
favorite thing to ask the staff was what's on sale?
And we'd go to like the sale bin, and I
would show up with like Neon pink, Neon green, like

(30:48):
off brand basketball sneakers because we had to get the uh,
you know, the the off brand variety.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Unfortunately, I had a decent jump shot.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
But Michael Jordan's still out sore of a favorite stats,
Michael Jordan's Air Jordan's sneakers still out sell every current
NBA player combined. That's how popular Jordan is. He also
went from the short short era. Remember when everybody used
to wear the like the what's the ball huggers, the
john stock back in the day, the John stocktons short shorts.

(31:20):
Then they went to the big baggy shorts. Now the
short shorts are starting to come back. I don't know
you young kids out there, young boys like I don't
know how they wear. And my son's one of them.
By the way, my wife texted me, she says, I
am responsible for all of our streaming services for cable.
This is probably true because I to the point of
the email or initially or the Tuckbacker. You have to

(31:41):
have all of these different services, and I just layer
them on. By the way, you just got recently married.
Buck suggestion, don't do what I did when we forgot
our Amazon Prime subscription and just say just open a
new account. You know, it doesn't matter how much time
it takes. That is not a that is not a
smart argument to make. But that's trying to track down

(32:03):
your passwords. I don't know how many different accounts we
have for a lot of time.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
I love Clay. Also just throw you know, Clay's very
twenty years. So you just got married as a Clay
it's they're almost three years, buddy. That's just very like
Buck just got married yesterday. It's like I'm going on
year three here. But yes, yes, indeed, that is that's
still you're a new You're a newly weed.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
In the mind of it.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
I've learned a lot. But as as I tweeted this morning,
you know, a wife, you had to do. I had
to ask me to get something off the top shelf
for no better feeling as a man. I just come
over there. I just stretch out my del toy, just
reach up there, grab it for her, you know, all
five foot three of her standing there, and I'm just like,
I got you, honey, I can get that thing off
the high shelf for you. Feel like a man.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
Also, though, have you had the situation where because she
is small, she just assumes that you can reach up
and get anything and You're like, that's actually on the ceiling.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
And then I am and then I am sadness because
I'm like, honey, I need a stool two for that,
and she's like, wow, I thought you could get that
one too. It hurts hurt.

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Speaker 4 (34:03):
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Speaker 2 (34:10):
Find it on the iHeart app or wherever you get
your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show
rolling through the Friday edition of the program. I don't
know if we mentioned, by the way, the Surgeon General
of the State of Florida, doctor Latipo, made a lot
of news with his decisions on vaccines. He's going to
join us in the next hour at one thirty to

(34:32):
have a discussion about that. We already talked with doctor Sapphire,
was it earlier this week a couple of days ago
about that story as well. And then in the third
hour Denesh Desuzo will join us at two thirty has
a new movie that he has made.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
So that is where we are headed.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
You can talk back, and we have got a ton
of you jumping in and giving us feedback on a
variety of different topics. Let's go to see in Toledo, Ohio.
He's talking about the issue which is looming out there,
which is cost of goods CC.

Speaker 6 (35:09):
Yeah, but not only is the problem Biden. I'm a
little irritated with Trump right now, and I'm a huge
supporter of his, but even my local Walmart is jacking
the prices of stuff up because of the tariffs right
now and the cost and it's getting to the point
where it's ridiculous. The price of flea treatment for my
cat just doubled in the past week. It's just it's

(35:31):
getting outrageous and he needs.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
To do something.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Okay, how's your how's your cat flea treatment coming along?
I don't get me started on these stupid cats. Clay's cats. Well,
I swear that Clay's house that I see a cat.
I'm like, which one's that. He's like, I don't even know.
I don't even know they're still here.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
They leave, they flee the house every now and then,
and I'm like, I don't care if they come back.
I mean, they've torn up everything in the house. The data,
I appreciate that feedback the day. I think what he's
reflecting does not actually suggest that there has been I mean, look,
the most recent numbers on tariffs and on inflation, we're

(36:09):
talking about round a two and a half percent inflation rate.
Ish it was nine point one during Biden. I can't
speak to what flea powder costs or how the price
of flea powder has changed, but the overall prices at
Walmart have not changed substantially, and overall grocery prices have
not gone up substantially. Gas is actually down, but the

(36:31):
embedded cost of goods is not coming back down. That's
the pernicious nature of inflation. What Biden did never gets
a race. It is a cost that is now embedded
for all time, and people, unfortunately are going to be
grappling with Biden's economic failures for years and years to come,
beyond the Trump term.

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