July 15, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show dives into a dynamic mix of political analysis, economic commentary, and cultural critique, offering listeners a compelling breakdown of current events and conservative perspectives. Broadcasting from Atlanta during MLB’s All-Star festivities, the hosts open with light sports banter before transitioning into deeper discussions on national policy and political strategy.
A major focus of this hour is the economic impact of Trump-era tariffs, with the hosts highlighting a rare federal budget surplus in June 2025. They argue that despite media narratives, tariffs have not triggered significant inflation and instead have generated substantial revenue. The conversation also critiques Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell for high interest rates, which they claim have frozen the housing market and stifled economic growth. The hosts advocate for rate cuts to stimulate recovery, pointing to record-high stock market performance and strong job growth under Trump’s second term.
The show also explores border security and crime reduction, asserting that violent crime rates are plummeting due to increased law enforcement and deportation of violent offenders. They credit the Trump administration’s immigration policies for restoring law and order, emphasizing that border enforcement and ICE operations are resonating with a broad swath of Americans, including minority communities.
In a sharp political pivot, the hosts analyze California Governor Gavin Newsom’s national ambitions, suggesting he is positioning himself as a frontrunner for the 2028 Democratic presidential nomination. They critique Newsom’s evasive responses on controversial issues like transgender policies and youth gender surgeries, portraying him as a polished but insubstantial figure who avoids taking firm stances. The discussion frames Newsom as emblematic of a Democratic strategy that relies on charm and ambiguity rather than policy clarity.
Throughout the hour, the hosts reinforce the idea that Trump’s “EBC” platform—Economy, Border, Crime—is delivering results, contrasting it with what they describe as the Democrats’ inconsistent messaging and policy failures. They also touch on California’s political transformation, attributing its shift from red to blue to mass illegal immigration and failed progressive governance.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in. We are Rolling Tuesday edition Clay Travis buck
Sexton Show. I am in Atlanta, Georgia, where there was
a pretty phenomenal home run derby last night. For those
of you that may have been paying attention, there were
not a lot of sports related activities on the program.
(00:21):
Tonight is the All Star Game. Buck And in order
to get into our Atlanta affiliate studio, which is right
by the Atlanta Braves Stadium, they have a huge red
carpet for all of the players to walk and I
think I was able to sneak in because otherwise I
don't know how you get into this building. So I
(00:42):
had to already begin my day engaging in cover activities
to even manage to make it into the studio today.
But it is an amazing fun scene in Atlanta as
the All Star Game gets closer, Appreciate our affiliate down
here hosting me in the Atlanta studios. You are in Miami,
(01:03):
and one of the big questions that has I would
say consumed much of the first six months of the
Trump two point zero regime is what's going to happen
with inflation? And Trump barely got any attention at all. June,
we had a surplus, that is, we brought in the
(01:23):
federal government did more money than we spent, which had
not happened in years to a large extent, that was
occurring because of the tariffs that Trump is bringing to bear. Well,
we got inflation related numbers that came out earlier this morning,
and yet again, despite the attempts of the media to
(01:43):
pretend otherwise, the data does not appear to reflect that
there is a massive impact of inflation. We've got Treasury
Secretary Scott bessent On, and I think this is an
interesting conversation to have. Was Trump right all along so
far about the tariffs and the fact that they would
not have a major inflationary impact so far that largely
(02:07):
appears to be true. Here is Scott Bessont cut one.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
But I wouldn't put too much emphasis on one number.
I think it's the trend. And I think one thing
that Wall Street, a lot of economist market in general
got wrong early on was that tariffs were going to
call a substantial price level rise, which just hasn't happened.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Okay, Buck, So so far, we are balancing the budget
in June, which may be a little bit of a
calendar quirk, but it's still a very impressive marker. We
are on track for hundreds of billions of dollars in tariffs,
and so far the overall cost of goods has not
substantially altered. Is it time to say, hey, maybe Trump
(02:55):
was right? We're also I think it's worth mentioning near
record all time highs in stock prices as we sit
here in mid July. We hope that you guys that
listen to us and stayed pat The S and P
five hundred is near an all time record high, just
a little bit back off of it that was set recently.
(03:17):
Was Trump right? Is it time to actually have that
conversation about whether the conventional wisdom was totally wrong about this?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
You can certainly say Trump wasn't as wrong as they
said he would be, and they spoke with certainty on
these things, the certainty of the consensus, the certainty of
economists in quote right, All economists know, Clay that tariffs
are going to be inflationary. All economists know that tariffs
(03:45):
are going to rise prices. Maybe we should ask those
economists what they really know, because that hasn't happened, and
to be clear, they said it would happen. It should
have happened if they were right right away, and that
is not what has occurred here. So once again we
have a situation where I think quite clearly Trump, just
like on trade with China, decided that he was going
(04:07):
to do something that was against not only the anti
Trump Democrat everything Trump does as bad so called consensus,
but even some in his own party, even some who
are truly Trump voters and supporters, were concerned about the
trajectory of this. And meanwhile it looks like it's the
(04:28):
negative has not been really apparent at all, and the
positive is also on the positive side of a ledger
bigger than was initially anticipated, with one hundred billion dollars
of revenue coming in on the tariffs. You've also got
right inflation two point seven percent in June, which is
(04:50):
in line with expectations. So staying right steady, And I
know that they're now looking for formerly Scott Bessen says
the Treasurer secretary, looking for a FED chair to replace
the current FED chair, which I think is long overdue.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Well look, if you told me, hey, what is the
most bollocked there's a fun word, the most flummexed part
there's another fun word of our economy right now, I
would say, and I bet most of you would sign
off on this. It's mortgage rates. Because as a result
of Joe Biden's inflation in twenty twenty one, we went
(05:30):
from about two and a half or three percent mortgage
rates to around seven percent, and as a result, the
housing market's completely frozen in many respects. And as a
result of the housing market being frozen, lots of you
out there might be interested in moving, but because you
have such incredible mortgages, you're not selling. You're not moving.
(05:52):
That is the rate many of you out there would
be interested in buying. But the housing market is frozen,
and that's seven percent on some of these mortgages. You're
looking around and saying, I just want to rent. This
is another part where Trump is one hundred percent right.
Our interest rates are too high. They accelerated too rapidly
without hardly any parallels historically, because everything was wrong. Jerome
(06:19):
Powell completely with Remember he said inflation was transitory, they
didn't raise rates fast enough. Then they overly raised rates.
And right now, the cost of borrowing, particularly as it
pertains to the average home, but also if you're buying
a car, if you are paying credit card debt. It's
all just too high and we need I mean, honestly,
(06:39):
I think probably our interest rates are about two points
too high, and if they would come back by about
two points, I think you would see an unfreezing of
the housing market, which would accelerate I think economic recovery
and growth in a substantial way. To say nothing of
business is feeling more able to borrow money because the
rate at which you're having to pay back is not
(07:00):
so high. So this all to me is interconnected because
the reason why Jerome Powell has said he has not
cut rates is he says the tariffs have a substantial
inflationary impact. We have not seen that so far. I
would just say, what has Jerome Powell done well such
that we should be trusting his and other Fed governor's
(07:21):
opinions on this vis a VI Trump, because it seems
to me Trump if you want to criticize him, you
can criticize him for lots of things. The guy understands
interest rates in real estate better than maybe any president
we have ever had. And I do think that he's
right about the fact that our economy is not moving
as rapidly as otherwise would if we could get interest
(07:42):
rates correct.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Look, the economy is something that, unfortunately, I think Trump
is almost a victim of his own success with this.
There's an expectation, based on the first time Trump was
in office, when he was still learning a lot more
on the job and figuring out who his team should be,
there was an expectation once again Trump would have a
strong economy because he understands business. He understands what will
(08:05):
get things going for all of us. Right at the
Democrats always focus on making it seem like there's some
class warfare agenda in the Trump economic push, but really
it and specifically in the big Beautiful Bill by the way,
they look at what does this mean for the average
American households disposable income? What does this mean for small
(08:26):
businesses that are still the economic engine of so much
hiring and so much of a GDP. So I think
that this is so far, so good with Trump. It's
looking really really strong, and it is a moment in
time where he's not getting all the credit that I
think he should, or that certainly he would if he
(08:48):
were a Democrat, but that he should even for a
Republican because there have been some other things on the
agenda lately in the news. And also I think that
Trump is expected to do well on the economy. Right.
The part of this that's I think a bit of
a break is or a break from the consensus or
the expectation is when he does the things that they
(09:08):
say on his own side are going to backfire and
it actually looks like it's working. That's the part of
this that's pretty remarkable.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Now.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yes, And if you want to argue on the flip side,
they're going to continue to say, oh, the inflation pressure
is coming, The inflation pressure is coming, And so that
is what Jerome Powell basically is arguing. With that in mind,
the prognostication markets, the prediction markets have it fairly likely
that in September we're going to get a rate cut.
(09:38):
So that would suggest to me that the Fed is
not as worried now about inflation somehow skyrocketing based on
the tariff decisions. And it remains to be seen what
exactly is going to happen with the tariffs we've got
now an August first date, there was a panic on
Liberation Day back in early April, stock market prices sold
(10:00):
off substantially. I think Trump is emboldened by the recovery
of the stock market prices to hold the line when
it comes to trying to put in place good trade
deals for the country. And I don't think he's pressured
by the trajectory of the stock market like he might
have been in April. Now stock prices go up and down,
(10:20):
they adjust constantly based on existing economic data, so there's
still much to be seen. But I think it's very hard.
We said before the election, Buck this was a three
prong election. Economy, border crime. Just focused on those three economy.
Stock price is all time record high, inflation back down.
(10:41):
Your paychecks are growing faster than the average inflation rate is,
which means you have more money in your pocket. That's
a very good thing. Border shut down, deportation process underway.
We've never had a more secure border and crime. I
think this is one story that you and I and
a lot of people in media have not focused on enough.
(11:01):
And I don't want to jinx things because summer is
typically when the overall rates of violent crime increase. Kids
are out of school, people have more free time, people
are out in the streets more. They stay out later
because the sun's up longer. We are potentially heading in
twenty twenty five for the lowest national murder rate that
we have seen in a generation. Put cops back on
(11:24):
the streets, let them do their jobs. The number of
murders is collapsing all over the country because we now
have police that are able to do their jobs, because
we have ICE agents supporting violent predators and criminals. And
it's not getting very much attention, and I don't want
to jinx it, but as we enter summer, we're staring
down potentially a generational decline and violent crime in this country.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yes, it turns out enforcing the law creates more rule
of law. And also on the deportation issue, you're starting
to see the ramp up is real. This has been
promised all along by the Trump administration, and I think
Clay part of the panic that we've seen and the
really ineptitude of Democrats to get their footing going with
(12:10):
any kind of messaging here, is that the more they
show people these immigration raids, the more clear it becomes
that a big majority of the American people, including majorities
of forget about political party, Black Americans, Latino Americans, Latino
Americans majority want illegals deported. So they keep doing this
(12:31):
old playbook.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Of if we just show and we use the usual
phrases about oh, they're just hard working, and no, actually,
these are people that aren't supposed to be in the country,
and the American people have decided that that's not going
to be okay anymore.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
This is real and Democrats haven't figured out how they're
supposed to message this. The Abragio Garcia think was a
massive own goal for them. I think if we all
remember that one the guy got sent to El Savador
MS thirteen, guy alleged uh and sure enough, Clay. Yeah,
they're they're running low on areas to hit the president.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
On no doubt good And by the way, the number
of Americans that as American citizens getting jobs, a lot
of those Biden jobs, when you go back and look
at them, were actually illegal immigrant jobs. The number of
American jobs that have skyrocketed under Trump is also substantial.
I think you're starting to see that impact. So all
of that economy in good place, border in good place,
(13:23):
crime in good place. That was the three prongs that
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Podcasts, all right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. You
know you're starting to see a little bit of a
little bit of scuttle butt around there. That's a fun
word to say, a little bit of scuttle butt when
it comes to Gavin Newsom, who's on our friend Sean
Ryan's podcast for four hours. Apparently I haven't. I've only
seen clips. I haven't been able to listen to the
whole four hours.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
You could listen to a four hour interview. I mean,
first of all, like that is.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
The Gavin Sean Ryan is a great show. I've been
on a guest on a show I love. I love Sean.
But to make me listen to Gavin Newsom for four hours,
it would it would be a large sum of money.
I think. I don't know if I can make it
because he's just so, he's just gross. But you know, look,
maybe it's important to know what the opposition thinks, and
so it's you know, if you want to, if you
want to deep dive into all things Newsome, you can
(15:24):
certainly get it. But I bring it up because we'll
take a couple of moments here to talk about some
of his answers and how I think Gavin Newsom is
clearly thinking of himself as the Democrat nominee to be
going forward. And you know, unless Cuomo pulls off something
crazy in New York City and becomes the mayor, he's not.
(15:45):
You can't lose the mayor's race after resigning as governor
and then think you're going to be the President of
the United States. That's not going to happen. So then
you start looking at this and you're like Gretchen Whitmer
against Gavin Newsom. I don't think Whitmer would play that
well naturally. Look, gat Newsom's got a big profile, and
I think he views himself as the one debat He's
(16:06):
the name, He's the name people know, like Jeff Johnson
and the distinguished gentleman, the name you know.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Well. I also think that this may be another Clyburn
special where if they are going to keep South Carolina
either first or near the front of the Democrat Democrat
nomination contest. And if you remember, James Clyburn said, Hey,
Biden's the guy. We just had Gavin Newsom visiting South
(16:33):
Carolina with James Clyburn. I honestly think if you look
at mayor Pete, who has zero percent of support among
black voters. If you break this down, I think we
could see another anointing of a Democrat nominee. And Gavin
Newsom seems like he may be next up to be anointed.
And I want to play this cut for you here
(16:54):
when we come back in a moment. But you've got
an analogy, I'll let you lay it out and we
get ready for that for that cut. But I Gavin
Newsome is smart enough to talk to all the people
he should talk to, but he is diabolical, and I
want to just play a cut and give you a
sense for how he's going to completely run from everything
he did in California and pretend it didn't happen.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Yeah, of course, and used the greatness of California that
was built over decades of particularly under Republican leadership. It's
so crazy to think of now. For a lot of people,
California was a red state, and really until mass illegal
immigration and immigration in general, but illegal immigration in particular,
(17:36):
California was a red state. It was a state that
Kavis Ronald Reagan and you say that out loud now,
it's like that must have been in a different country.
But illegal immigration, flipped it and then some Yeah. That's
where Stephen Miller says he got radicalized. Was He's a
kid who grew up in California and saw as all
that started to happen and said, we've got to push back.
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Speaker 1 (18:56):
Welcome back in Clay, Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us as we are rolling
through the program. I go ahead and write it down.
What are we sitting at here? July fifteenth to twenty
twenty five. So this is very much in pencil because
it'll be what about two and a half year's ish
(19:20):
until the Democrats will have to have a nominee for
twenty twenty eight, and that presumes that it ends by
Super Tuesday, which will be sometime in March of twenty
twenty eight. But Buck's theory on Gavin Newsom, I don't
think is a bad one at all. That he's just
going to power through, that he thinks he's the guy,
the next man up. Now there will be other people
(19:40):
who run JB. Pritzker, Gretchen Whitmer, Wes Moore, Josh Shapiro,
and we will see whether any of them are able
to give Newsom a real run, but it feels like
Newsom is already running because he's doing all these conservative
in quotation mark podcasts. I will point out producer Ali,
(20:01):
we invited Gavin Newsom on this program a long time ago, right,
and he has never been willing to come on. Is
that correct? Okay, So we have had an open invite
back when I was when I was sort of enamored
of Gavin Newsom and I just wanted to have a
nice chardonnay with him. We invited him on the program.
He has not come on, but he has been doing
(20:24):
reach out to non traditional Democrat audiences. And our friend
Sean Ryan, who lives just up the road from me
in Franklin, Tennessee. Actually I met him through Buck several
years ago. Right as he was starting his show, he
had Gavin Newsom on, and he asked Gavin Newsom a question, Hey,
what do you think about really young kids? I think
(20:46):
he said eight year old kids having ginger transition surgeries. Now,
this is something that I think ninety nine point nine
percent of parents think is crazy, but it has become
Democrat orthodoxy that if your young child tells you, hey,
I feel like I'm a girl and you're actually a
boy or I feel like a boy and you're actually
(21:08):
a girl. That you should treat it as an honest
opinion and not as just Hey, young kids believe in
lots of things that aren't true and they have very
fertile imaginations. Now you have to treat it as a
very serious thing that even might require medical treatment. And
Sean Ryan asked Gavin Newsome about this that and I
(21:29):
want you to listen to his totally disjointed, gobbly Goook response,
because it's going to basically be his entire twenty eight campaign.
Is all the things that I support and my party supports. Well,
I'm just going to talk and try to confuse you. Listen,
what about for your values? I mean, is eight years
old too young?
Speaker 6 (21:50):
Yeah? I mean, look, I now that I have a
nine year old just became nine. Come on, man, I
get it. So those are legit, you know. It's it's
interesting just the issue of age. I haven't I'm as
I and as someone that's been so focused on equality
(22:13):
broadly LGBT writes, particularly gay marriage, the trans issue for
me is also novel. It's it's over the last few years,
I'm trying to understand as much as anyone else. Whole
pronoun thing trying to understand all of that well, you
know that was like the hell, I mean all that.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Stuff, I get it, he gets it. Fuck evil? Is
it evil? Keanu Reeves you call this is what they're
gonna do. He's gonna say he gets that you guys
might not agree with it, and it makes it sound
like he agrees with you. But listen to that whole answer.
He just kind of jumps from one hot button topic
(22:54):
to another without having to take any sides.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
When we were talking about this clip right before we
came on, I said, Clay, he reminds me of the
used car salesman who really wants you to like him,
is like, hey, handsome, I'm like, wow, you're a guy
who knows his way around cars, like you must be
you must be like fantastic when you're tracking this thing right, like,
(23:16):
oh man, love a guy who really you know, sorry,
you get what I'm saying, but won't tell you the
price of the car. Like the one thing you want
to know how much do you want for this car?
You can't find out how much the car is, But
he just wants to keep on talking to you and
getting his hooks into you, so he's gonna close this deal.
He didn't answer the question at all. And this is
what whenever Gavin Newsom is about to be quarted, he's like,
(23:38):
let's just talk about how amazing state of California is.
A love my state. I love my states. Like we
asked you what you had for breakfast, buddy, Like no
one cares about how much you love the state of California.
But his whole thing is going to be he runs
with you know, he runs on charm and hides the
(23:59):
substance or has no substance, but same thing.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
He tries to acknowledge that there is a legitimate reason
that people would care about this, and then dodges all
actual positions that he's going to take. And again, California
is a broken in many ways left wing kingdom, and
(24:24):
in order to run to represent the entire nation, he's
going to have to turn his back on a lot
of the crazy of California. And the way he's going
to do it is just by trying to acknowledge that
he understands the concerns, and he's going to pivot and
say things like we're all Americans, right, this is a conversation.
I guarantee you this is where it's headed. This is
a real conversation we should have. What do you mean
(24:46):
conversation we should have? Do eight year olds deserve to
have their penises chopped off? Is not really a conversation
to me. I mean, it's a pretty easy answer question.
And he's going to try to dodge all this. We
saw it early when he went on the Charlie Kirk
podcast and he tried to say that being male and
(25:06):
competing in women's sports was completely unfair. And then what
did he do? State of California is fighting right now
the Trump administration for trying to say, hey, this shouldn't
be allowed to occur. And there is a dude who
won track championships in women's high school in California. So
he talks out of both sides of his mouth, which
(25:27):
is what traditional politicians do. To me, it feels a
bit like Bill Clinton buck, except he doesn't have like
the actual background of Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton was an
Arkansas guy who kind of understood things. Gavin Newsom is
a elite left wing, rich California guy who reps a
(25:48):
lot of those people, and that's his base.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
And you've had the major outflow of people from California,
which I think is one of the most important data
points you can have on webther Their estate is functioning
at a level of governance that attracts people versus repels them.
And I think that that number, more than anything else,
speaks to the challenges that California has. And to me, again,
(26:14):
it's like people could say, well, the Communists when they
took over in the Soviet Union, they had a vast
military apparatus and they had all this. Well, yeah, of course,
because they took it all. Gavin Newsom didn't build Silicon
Valley and Hollywood as the epicenter of the global entertainment
industry and as the the hub for innovation and probably
(26:38):
the greatest wealth creation machinery in the modern era, which
is Silicon Valley that just happened to be in the
most populous state with the best weather, that was built
over a period of decades, and that he has taken.
This is a lot like to build a Blasio phenomenon
in New York. Those you remember Bill the Blasio came in,
He's like, what are you talking about? City? Streets are clean,
(26:59):
Crime low, city's doing great, crime is low. We kept saying, yeah,
but you're you're messing it up. It's going to the
wrong direction. You met, And by the time everybody realized
it was like, oh, look, I guess I screwed the
whole thing up. When you take over something that is
wealthy and functions well, that iceberg doesn't melt overnight. Gavin's
melting the iceberg though, or actually he's filling the iceberg
(27:20):
with illegals, but that's what's going on.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Yeah. Look, I was with a guy from Seattle last
night watching the Homer un Derby, and I was having
the conversation to this on a certain extent, like San Francisco,
Seattle and Portland, along with other West Coast cities are
among the most geographically beautiful in the entire countries we've
talked about on this program. And it's as if the
(27:43):
luxury that they have for all of those beautiful attributes
to their cities, they can otherwise take everything else for
granted and they don't have to worry about trying to
have a functional city. And finally it seems like a
at least in San Francisco, for instance, people are fed up.
I was reading the interview with the new San Francisco mayor,
(28:05):
who seems reasonable for San Francisco mayors. But to your point,
you know, the Bloomberg era was a great one following Giuliani,
and now you've got Mom Donnie saying, hey, build de
Blasio did a great job. We need more of this,
which is actually just eradicating all of the progress that
you had over a generation in New York City.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
It's troubling to see, but it is the reality before us,
so we have to call it out. But yeah, Gavin Newsom,
I think is the the Democrat right now in the
best position to be the voice of that party. You
have this other tag team of AOC and Bernie Sanders,
and I know that the lunatic base of the Democrat
(28:48):
Party gets really riled up about those two. And I've
said they're going to try to build AOC out. They're
going to try. I don't know if that'll be successful.
There's some things that we can't necessarily foresee when the
mood of the country is what's going on between now
and the twenty twenty eight election. But Bernie is too old,
and AOC, I think really is too dumb. Gavin Newsom
(29:10):
is somewhere in the in the Democrats sweet spot of
he can talk the game, and he can dodge, and
he can evade, and you know, looks the part. Loves talking,
loves the sound of his own voice, loves seeing himself
on the screen, so that that may be enough with
this Democrat party. We'll see. And he does this thing
(29:30):
too of you know, reaching across to the other side.
He never actually reaches across to the other side. One
of the big things that was bizarre to me was
was people said when he did when he did that
other podcast, not Sean Shows, Charlie's Show, and he said
the thing about trans and how he no, he didn't
agree that trans athletes shouldn't compete against against transgender you know,
(29:54):
against women. He didn't say that. What he said is basically,
I feel your pain, or this.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Is he said, it's unfair. He said it's unfair, and
then he didn't follow up on it, but.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
He left it and left it open. It's unfair to everybody,
is the point.
Speaker 7 (30:07):
It's unfair to the trans athlete, it's unfair to the
female athlete, it's unfair to society.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
And that's just a moral relativism that you're going to
see a lot of. I think as the Democrats try
to shore up their support by pretending to be something
other than that which they are, which is always the
game play, right Democrats to win national elections have to
pretend not to be Democrats. Look at Joe Biden. If
you if you were to line up for this is
(30:34):
a perfect example of this. If you lined up what
Joe Biden said and was promising in the six months
before election day in twenty twenty, and I know, is
COVID everything else, but you know, healing, bring the country together, steady,
stable hand, all this stuff, and then the truly left
wing lunacy that Biden was actually the biggest open border
(30:54):
in our history. You know, the trillions of dollars of
completely unnecessary.
Speaker 7 (30:58):
Spending, the brand's policy stuff, the mask mandates, the or
you know, the vaccine mandates, and you look up Trump
ran and said I'm going to do these things, and
he is doing those things.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Yes, Democrats have to lie to voters to win enough
voters to be in power, and then they hope we
just forget every four.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Years, no doubt, economy, border crime, It's as easy as EBC.
That's exactly what Trump has delivered so far in the
first six months. That's what we told you the campaign was,
and that's where his focus has been.
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for you because you're at the Major League Baseball All
Star Game, which I found out was a thing going
on because of you, So thank you for that keeping
me updated in an Yes, there you go. And I'm
wondering if a major league pitcher, and maybe there's a
viral video in this play, maybe you could ask somebody
if a major league pitcher said I'm gonna throw full heat,
(35:08):
but I'm gonna throw them down the middle. I'm not
gonna try sliders or any of that stuff. Do you
think you could make fair ball contact if you had
ten pitches? No, I don't because I think, first of all,
I would be so scared I could this is this
is a rare time. I'm the arrogant one apparently on this.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
I don't think you realize how insanely fast the ball
would get to the plate, even if they're saying they're
gonna throw strikes.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
I mean, I haven't played since Little League, so my
version of baseball in my head, and I was in
the eighth grade, I think, so my version of baseball
is not I think a camp.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Just because they say they're gonna just hummet right down
the middle for you, they still might pitch a little
bit inside, like I think, seeing they all throw one
hundred miles an hour now, I don't think most people
know what one hundred miles an hour feels like.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Just to stand I don't think I've ever seen I
don't think I've ever been standing at the plate and
seen a ball going more than like fifty or sixty.
I think probably that's does That's not I'm just telling
you it would be the intimidation factor of hearing that.
I think the number of people they could you basically
just have to start swinging as soon as the pitch
is thrown. I mean, I think Clay, we just get
you to ask one of these major league pitchers, Hey,
(36:27):
can I get into like the practice area or whatever.
I need ten pitches on video and if you know
what I mean, and like we do something for like
I don't know, ton of the Tower.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
I'd rather you try it than me. Actually, this is
one of the rare Like I all right nervous. I
don't want to get hit by one hundred mile an
hour fastball. I don't even want to, like I would
be terrified.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
I think.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Well I was pretty wimpy about that too, Probably why
I stop playing baseball
Welcome in. We are Rolling Tuesday edition Clay Travis buck
Sexton Show. I am in Atlanta, Georgia, where there was
a pretty phenomenal home run derby last night. For those
of you that may have been paying attention, there were
not a lot of sports related activities on the program.
(00:21):
Tonight is the All Star Game. Buck And in order
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(00:42):
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to even manage to make it into the studio today.
But it is an amazing fun scene in Atlanta as
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(01:03):
and one of the big questions that has I would
say consumed much of the first six months of the
Trump two point zero regime is what's going to happen
with inflation? And Trump barely got any attention at all. June,
we had a surplus, that is, we brought in the
(01:23):
federal government did more money than we spent, which had
not happened in years to a large extent, that was
occurring because of the tariffs that Trump is bringing to bear. Well,
we got inflation related numbers that came out earlier this morning,
and yet again, despite the attempts of the media to
(01:43):
pretend otherwise, the data does not appear to reflect that
there is a massive impact of inflation. We've got Treasury
Secretary Scott bessent On, and I think this is an
interesting conversation to have. Was Trump right all along so
far about the tariffs and the fact that they would
not have a major inflationary impact so far that largely
(02:07):
appears to be true. Here is Scott Bessont cut one.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
But I wouldn't put too much emphasis on one number.
I think it's the trend. And I think one thing
that Wall Street, a lot of economist market in general
got wrong early on was that tariffs were going to
call a substantial price level rise, which just hasn't happened.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Okay, Buck, So so far, we are balancing the budget
in June, which may be a little bit of a
calendar quirk, but it's still a very impressive marker. We
are on track for hundreds of billions of dollars in tariffs,
and so far the overall cost of goods has not
substantially altered. Is it time to say, hey, maybe Trump
(02:55):
was right? We're also I think it's worth mentioning near
record all time highs in stock prices as we sit
here in mid July. We hope that you guys that
listen to us and stayed pat The S and P
five hundred is near an all time record high, just
a little bit back off of it that was set recently.
(03:17):
Was Trump right? Is it time to actually have that
conversation about whether the conventional wisdom was totally wrong about this?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
You can certainly say Trump wasn't as wrong as they
said he would be, and they spoke with certainty on
these things, the certainty of the consensus, the certainty of
economists in quote right, All economists know, Clay that tariffs
are going to be inflationary. All economists know that tariffs
(03:45):
are going to rise prices. Maybe we should ask those
economists what they really know, because that hasn't happened, and
to be clear, they said it would happen. It should
have happened if they were right right away, and that
is not what has occurred here. So once again we
have a situation where I think quite clearly Trump, just
like on trade with China, decided that he was going
(04:07):
to do something that was against not only the anti
Trump Democrat everything Trump does as bad so called consensus,
but even some in his own party, even some who
are truly Trump voters and supporters, were concerned about the
trajectory of this. And meanwhile it looks like it's the
(04:28):
negative has not been really apparent at all, and the
positive is also on the positive side of a ledger
bigger than was initially anticipated, with one hundred billion dollars
of revenue coming in on the tariffs. You've also got
right inflation two point seven percent in June, which is
(04:50):
in line with expectations. So staying right steady, And I
know that they're now looking for formerly Scott Bessen says
the Treasurer secretary, looking for a FED chair to replace
the current FED chair, which I think is long overdue.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Well look, if you told me, hey, what is the
most bollocked there's a fun word, the most flummexed part
there's another fun word of our economy right now, I
would say, and I bet most of you would sign
off on this. It's mortgage rates. Because as a result
of Joe Biden's inflation in twenty twenty one, we went
(05:30):
from about two and a half or three percent mortgage
rates to around seven percent, and as a result, the
housing market's completely frozen in many respects. And as a
result of the housing market being frozen, lots of you
out there might be interested in moving, but because you
have such incredible mortgages, you're not selling. You're not moving.
(05:52):
That is the rate many of you out there would
be interested in buying. But the housing market is frozen,
and that's seven percent on some of these mortgages. You're
looking around and saying, I just want to rent. This
is another part where Trump is one hundred percent right.
Our interest rates are too high. They accelerated too rapidly
without hardly any parallels historically, because everything was wrong. Jerome
(06:19):
Powell completely with Remember he said inflation was transitory, they
didn't raise rates fast enough. Then they overly raised rates.
And right now, the cost of borrowing, particularly as it
pertains to the average home, but also if you're buying
a car, if you are paying credit card debt. It's
all just too high and we need I mean, honestly,
(06:39):
I think probably our interest rates are about two points
too high, and if they would come back by about
two points, I think you would see an unfreezing of
the housing market, which would accelerate I think economic recovery
and growth in a substantial way. To say nothing of
business is feeling more able to borrow money because the
rate at which you're having to pay back is not
(07:00):
so high. So this all to me is interconnected because
the reason why Jerome Powell has said he has not
cut rates is he says the tariffs have a substantial
inflationary impact. We have not seen that so far. I
would just say, what has Jerome Powell done well such
that we should be trusting his and other Fed governor's
(07:21):
opinions on this vis a VI Trump, because it seems
to me Trump if you want to criticize him, you
can criticize him for lots of things. The guy understands
interest rates in real estate better than maybe any president
we have ever had. And I do think that he's
right about the fact that our economy is not moving
as rapidly as otherwise would if we could get interest
(07:42):
rates correct.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Look, the economy is something that, unfortunately, I think Trump
is almost a victim of his own success with this.
There's an expectation, based on the first time Trump was
in office, when he was still learning a lot more
on the job and figuring out who his team should be,
there was an expectation once again Trump would have a
strong economy because he understands business. He understands what will
(08:05):
get things going for all of us. Right at the
Democrats always focus on making it seem like there's some
class warfare agenda in the Trump economic push, but really
it and specifically in the big Beautiful Bill by the way,
they look at what does this mean for the average
American households disposable income? What does this mean for small
(08:26):
businesses that are still the economic engine of so much
hiring and so much of a GDP. So I think
that this is so far, so good with Trump. It's
looking really really strong, and it is a moment in
time where he's not getting all the credit that I
think he should, or that certainly he would if he
(08:48):
were a Democrat, but that he should even for a
Republican because there have been some other things on the
agenda lately in the news. And also I think that
Trump is expected to do well on the economy. Right.
The part of this that's I think a bit of
a break is or a break from the consensus or
the expectation is when he does the things that they
(09:08):
say on his own side are going to backfire and
it actually looks like it's working. That's the part of
this that's pretty remarkable.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Now.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yes, And if you want to argue on the flip side,
they're going to continue to say, oh, the inflation pressure
is coming, The inflation pressure is coming, And so that
is what Jerome Powell basically is arguing. With that in mind,
the prognostication markets, the prediction markets have it fairly likely
that in September we're going to get a rate cut.
(09:38):
So that would suggest to me that the Fed is
not as worried now about inflation somehow skyrocketing based on
the tariff decisions. And it remains to be seen what
exactly is going to happen with the tariffs we've got
now an August first date, there was a panic on
Liberation Day back in early April, stock market prices sold
(10:00):
off substantially. I think Trump is emboldened by the recovery
of the stock market prices to hold the line when
it comes to trying to put in place good trade
deals for the country. And I don't think he's pressured
by the trajectory of the stock market like he might
have been in April. Now stock prices go up and down,
(10:20):
they adjust constantly based on existing economic data, so there's
still much to be seen. But I think it's very hard.
We said before the election, Buck this was a three
prong election. Economy, border crime. Just focused on those three economy.
Stock price is all time record high, inflation back down.
(10:41):
Your paychecks are growing faster than the average inflation rate is,
which means you have more money in your pocket. That's
a very good thing. Border shut down, deportation process underway.
We've never had a more secure border and crime. I
think this is one story that you and I and
a lot of people in media have not focused on enough.
(11:01):
And I don't want to jinx things because summer is
typically when the overall rates of violent crime increase. Kids
are out of school, people have more free time, people
are out in the streets more. They stay out later
because the sun's up longer. We are potentially heading in
twenty twenty five for the lowest national murder rate that
we have seen in a generation. Put cops back on
(11:24):
the streets, let them do their jobs. The number of
murders is collapsing all over the country because we now
have police that are able to do their jobs, because
we have ICE agents supporting violent predators and criminals. And
it's not getting very much attention, and I don't want
to jinx it, but as we enter summer, we're staring
down potentially a generational decline and violent crime in this country.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yes, it turns out enforcing the law creates more rule
of law. And also on the deportation issue, you're starting
to see the ramp up is real. This has been
promised all along by the Trump administration, and I think
Clay part of the panic that we've seen and the
really ineptitude of Democrats to get their footing going with
(12:10):
any kind of messaging here, is that the more they
show people these immigration raids, the more clear it becomes
that a big majority of the American people, including majorities
of forget about political party, Black Americans, Latino Americans, Latino
Americans majority want illegals deported. So they keep doing this
(12:31):
old playbook.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Of if we just show and we use the usual
phrases about oh, they're just hard working, and no, actually,
these are people that aren't supposed to be in the country,
and the American people have decided that that's not going
to be okay anymore.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
This is real and Democrats haven't figured out how they're
supposed to message this. The Abragio Garcia think was a
massive own goal for them. I think if we all
remember that one the guy got sent to El Savador
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they're they're running low on areas to hit the president.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
On no doubt good And by the way, the number
of Americans that as American citizens getting jobs, a lot
of those Biden jobs, when you go back and look
at them, were actually illegal immigrant jobs. The number of
American jobs that have skyrocketed under Trump is also substantial.
I think you're starting to see that impact. So all
of that economy in good place, border in good place,
(13:23):
crime in good place. That was the three prongs that
Trump ran on as his twenty twenty four platform, and
so far he's delivering there. In a big way. We'll
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Podcasts, all right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. You
know you're starting to see a little bit of a
little bit of scuttle butt around there. That's a fun
word to say, a little bit of scuttle butt when
it comes to Gavin Newsom, who's on our friend Sean
Ryan's podcast for four hours. Apparently I haven't. I've only
seen clips. I haven't been able to listen to the
whole four hours.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
You could listen to a four hour interview. I mean,
first of all, like that is.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
The Gavin Sean Ryan is a great show. I've been
on a guest on a show I love. I love Sean.
But to make me listen to Gavin Newsom for four hours,
it would it would be a large sum of money.
I think. I don't know if I can make it
because he's just so, he's just gross. But you know, look,
maybe it's important to know what the opposition thinks, and
so it's you know, if you want to, if you
want to deep dive into all things Newsome, you can
(15:24):
certainly get it. But I bring it up because we'll
take a couple of moments here to talk about some
of his answers and how I think Gavin Newsom is
clearly thinking of himself as the Democrat nominee to be
going forward. And you know, unless Cuomo pulls off something
crazy in New York City and becomes the mayor, he's not.
(15:45):
You can't lose the mayor's race after resigning as governor
and then think you're going to be the President of
the United States. That's not going to happen. So then
you start looking at this and you're like Gretchen Whitmer
against Gavin Newsom. I don't think Whitmer would play that
well naturally. Look, gat Newsom's got a big profile, and
I think he views himself as the one debat He's
(16:06):
the name, He's the name people know, like Jeff Johnson
and the distinguished gentleman, the name you know.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Well. I also think that this may be another Clyburn
special where if they are going to keep South Carolina
either first or near the front of the Democrat Democrat
nomination contest. And if you remember, James Clyburn said, Hey,
Biden's the guy. We just had Gavin Newsom visiting South
(16:33):
Carolina with James Clyburn. I honestly think if you look
at mayor Pete, who has zero percent of support among
black voters. If you break this down, I think we
could see another anointing of a Democrat nominee. And Gavin
Newsom seems like he may be next up to be anointed.
And I want to play this cut for you here
(16:54):
when we come back in a moment. But you've got
an analogy, I'll let you lay it out and we
get ready for that for that cut. But I Gavin
Newsome is smart enough to talk to all the people
he should talk to, but he is diabolical, and I
want to just play a cut and give you a
sense for how he's going to completely run from everything
he did in California and pretend it didn't happen.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Yeah, of course, and used the greatness of California that
was built over decades of particularly under Republican leadership. It's
so crazy to think of now. For a lot of people,
California was a red state, and really until mass illegal
immigration and immigration in general, but illegal immigration in particular,
(17:36):
California was a red state. It was a state that
Kavis Ronald Reagan and you say that out loud now,
it's like that must have been in a different country.
But illegal immigration, flipped it and then some Yeah. That's
where Stephen Miller says he got radicalized. Was He's a
kid who grew up in California and saw as all
that started to happen and said, we've got to push back.
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Welcome back in Clay, Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us as we are rolling
through the program. I go ahead and write it down.
What are we sitting at here? July fifteenth to twenty
twenty five. So this is very much in pencil because
it'll be what about two and a half year's ish
(19:20):
until the Democrats will have to have a nominee for
twenty twenty eight, and that presumes that it ends by
Super Tuesday, which will be sometime in March of twenty
twenty eight. But Buck's theory on Gavin Newsom, I don't
think is a bad one at all. That he's just
going to power through, that he thinks he's the guy,
the next man up. Now there will be other people
(19:40):
who run JB. Pritzker, Gretchen Whitmer, Wes Moore, Josh Shapiro,
and we will see whether any of them are able
to give Newsom a real run, but it feels like
Newsom is already running because he's doing all these conservative
in quotation mark podcasts. I will point out producer Ali,
(20:01):
we invited Gavin Newsom on this program a long time ago, right,
and he has never been willing to come on. Is
that correct? Okay, So we have had an open invite
back when I was when I was sort of enamored
of Gavin Newsom and I just wanted to have a
nice chardonnay with him. We invited him on the program.
He has not come on, but he has been doing
(20:24):
reach out to non traditional Democrat audiences. And our friend
Sean Ryan, who lives just up the road from me
in Franklin, Tennessee. Actually I met him through Buck several
years ago. Right as he was starting his show, he
had Gavin Newsom on, and he asked Gavin Newsom a question, Hey,
what do you think about really young kids? I think
(20:46):
he said eight year old kids having ginger transition surgeries. Now,
this is something that I think ninety nine point nine
percent of parents think is crazy, but it has become
Democrat orthodoxy that if your young child tells you, hey,
I feel like I'm a girl and you're actually a
boy or I feel like a boy and you're actually
(21:08):
a girl. That you should treat it as an honest
opinion and not as just Hey, young kids believe in
lots of things that aren't true and they have very
fertile imaginations. Now you have to treat it as a
very serious thing that even might require medical treatment. And
Sean Ryan asked Gavin Newsome about this that and I
(21:29):
want you to listen to his totally disjointed, gobbly Goook response,
because it's going to basically be his entire twenty eight campaign.
Is all the things that I support and my party supports. Well,
I'm just going to talk and try to confuse you. Listen,
what about for your values? I mean, is eight years
old too young?
Speaker 6 (21:50):
Yeah? I mean, look, I now that I have a
nine year old just became nine. Come on, man, I
get it. So those are legit, you know. It's it's
interesting just the issue of age. I haven't I'm as
I and as someone that's been so focused on equality
(22:13):
broadly LGBT writes, particularly gay marriage, the trans issue for
me is also novel. It's it's over the last few years,
I'm trying to understand as much as anyone else. Whole
pronoun thing trying to understand all of that well, you
know that was like the hell, I mean all that.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Stuff, I get it, he gets it. Fuck evil? Is
it evil? Keanu Reeves you call this is what they're
gonna do. He's gonna say he gets that you guys
might not agree with it, and it makes it sound
like he agrees with you. But listen to that whole answer.
He just kind of jumps from one hot button topic
(22:54):
to another without having to take any sides.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
When we were talking about this clip right before we
came on, I said, Clay, he reminds me of the
used car salesman who really wants you to like him,
is like, hey, handsome, I'm like, wow, you're a guy
who knows his way around cars, like you must be
you must be like fantastic when you're tracking this thing right, like,
(23:16):
oh man, love a guy who really you know, sorry,
you get what I'm saying, but won't tell you the
price of the car. Like the one thing you want
to know how much do you want for this car?
You can't find out how much the car is, But
he just wants to keep on talking to you and
getting his hooks into you, so he's gonna close this deal.
He didn't answer the question at all. And this is
what whenever Gavin Newsom is about to be quarted, he's like,
(23:38):
let's just talk about how amazing state of California is.
A love my state. I love my states. Like we
asked you what you had for breakfast, buddy, Like no
one cares about how much you love the state of California.
But his whole thing is going to be he runs
with you know, he runs on charm and hides the
(23:59):
substance or has no substance, but same thing.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
He tries to acknowledge that there is a legitimate reason
that people would care about this, and then dodges all
actual positions that he's going to take. And again, California
is a broken in many ways left wing kingdom, and
(24:24):
in order to run to represent the entire nation, he's
going to have to turn his back on a lot
of the crazy of California. And the way he's going
to do it is just by trying to acknowledge that
he understands the concerns, and he's going to pivot and
say things like we're all Americans, right, this is a conversation.
I guarantee you this is where it's headed. This is
a real conversation we should have. What do you mean
(24:46):
conversation we should have? Do eight year olds deserve to
have their penises chopped off? Is not really a conversation
to me. I mean, it's a pretty easy answer question.
And he's going to try to dodge all this. We
saw it early when he went on the Charlie Kirk
podcast and he tried to say that being male and
(25:06):
competing in women's sports was completely unfair. And then what
did he do? State of California is fighting right now
the Trump administration for trying to say, hey, this shouldn't
be allowed to occur. And there is a dude who
won track championships in women's high school in California. So
he talks out of both sides of his mouth, which
(25:27):
is what traditional politicians do. To me, it feels a
bit like Bill Clinton buck, except he doesn't have like
the actual background of Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton was an
Arkansas guy who kind of understood things. Gavin Newsom is
a elite left wing, rich California guy who reps a
(25:48):
lot of those people, and that's his base.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
And you've had the major outflow of people from California,
which I think is one of the most important data
points you can have on webther Their estate is functioning
at a level of governance that attracts people versus repels them.
And I think that that number, more than anything else,
speaks to the challenges that California has. And to me, again,
(26:14):
it's like people could say, well, the Communists when they
took over in the Soviet Union, they had a vast
military apparatus and they had all this. Well, yeah, of course,
because they took it all. Gavin Newsom didn't build Silicon
Valley and Hollywood as the epicenter of the global entertainment
industry and as the the hub for innovation and probably
(26:38):
the greatest wealth creation machinery in the modern era, which
is Silicon Valley that just happened to be in the
most populous state with the best weather, that was built
over a period of decades, and that he has taken.
This is a lot like to build a Blasio phenomenon
in New York. Those you remember Bill the Blasio came in,
He's like, what are you talking about? City? Streets are clean,
(26:59):
Crime low, city's doing great, crime is low. We kept saying, yeah,
but you're you're messing it up. It's going to the
wrong direction. You met, And by the time everybody realized
it was like, oh, look, I guess I screwed the
whole thing up. When you take over something that is
wealthy and functions well, that iceberg doesn't melt overnight. Gavin's
melting the iceberg though, or actually he's filling the iceberg
(27:20):
with illegals, but that's what's going on.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Yeah. Look, I was with a guy from Seattle last
night watching the Homer un Derby, and I was having
the conversation to this on a certain extent, like San Francisco,
Seattle and Portland, along with other West Coast cities are
among the most geographically beautiful in the entire countries we've
talked about on this program. And it's as if the
(27:43):
luxury that they have for all of those beautiful attributes
to their cities, they can otherwise take everything else for
granted and they don't have to worry about trying to
have a functional city. And finally it seems like a
at least in San Francisco, for instance, people are fed up.
I was reading the interview with the new San Francisco mayor,
(28:05):
who seems reasonable for San Francisco mayors. But to your point,
you know, the Bloomberg era was a great one following Giuliani,
and now you've got Mom Donnie saying, hey, build de
Blasio did a great job. We need more of this,
which is actually just eradicating all of the progress that
you had over a generation in New York City.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
It's troubling to see, but it is the reality before us,
so we have to call it out. But yeah, Gavin Newsom,
I think is the the Democrat right now in the
best position to be the voice of that party. You
have this other tag team of AOC and Bernie Sanders,
and I know that the lunatic base of the Democrat
(28:48):
Party gets really riled up about those two. And I've
said they're going to try to build AOC out. They're
going to try. I don't know if that'll be successful.
There's some things that we can't necessarily foresee when the
mood of the country is what's going on between now
and the twenty twenty eight election. But Bernie is too old,
and AOC, I think really is too dumb. Gavin Newsom
(29:10):
is somewhere in the in the Democrats sweet spot of
he can talk the game, and he can dodge, and
he can evade, and you know, looks the part. Loves talking,
loves the sound of his own voice, loves seeing himself
on the screen, so that that may be enough with
this Democrat party. We'll see. And he does this thing
(29:30):
too of you know, reaching across to the other side.
He never actually reaches across to the other side. One
of the big things that was bizarre to me was
was people said when he did when he did that
other podcast, not Sean Shows, Charlie's Show, and he said
the thing about trans and how he no, he didn't
agree that trans athletes shouldn't compete against against transgender you know,
(29:54):
against women. He didn't say that. What he said is basically,
I feel your pain, or this.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Is he said, it's unfair. He said it's unfair, and
then he didn't follow up on it, but.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
He left it and left it open. It's unfair to everybody,
is the point.
Speaker 7 (30:07):
It's unfair to the trans athlete, it's unfair to the
female athlete, it's unfair to society.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
And that's just a moral relativism that you're going to
see a lot of. I think as the Democrats try
to shore up their support by pretending to be something
other than that which they are, which is always the
game play, right Democrats to win national elections have to
pretend not to be Democrats. Look at Joe Biden. If
you if you were to line up for this is
(30:34):
a perfect example of this. If you lined up what
Joe Biden said and was promising in the six months
before election day in twenty twenty, and I know, is
COVID everything else, but you know, healing, bring the country together, steady,
stable hand, all this stuff, and then the truly left
wing lunacy that Biden was actually the biggest open border
(30:54):
in our history. You know, the trillions of dollars of
completely unnecessary.
Speaker 7 (30:58):
Spending, the brand's policy stuff, the mask mandates, the or
you know, the vaccine mandates, and you look up Trump
ran and said I'm going to do these things, and
he is doing those things.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Yes, Democrats have to lie to voters to win enough
voters to be in power, and then they hope we
just forget every four.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Years, no doubt, economy, border crime, It's as easy as EBC.
That's exactly what Trump has delivered so far in the
first six months. That's what we told you the campaign was,
and that's where his focus has been.
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for you because you're at the Major League Baseball All
Star Game, which I found out was a thing going
on because of you, So thank you for that keeping
me updated in an Yes, there you go. And I'm
wondering if a major league pitcher, and maybe there's a
viral video in this play, maybe you could ask somebody
if a major league pitcher said I'm gonna throw full heat,
(35:08):
but I'm gonna throw them down the middle. I'm not
gonna try sliders or any of that stuff. Do you
think you could make fair ball contact if you had
ten pitches? No, I don't because I think, first of all,
I would be so scared I could this is this
is a rare time. I'm the arrogant one apparently on this.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
I don't think you realize how insanely fast the ball
would get to the plate, even if they're saying they're
gonna throw strikes.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
I mean, I haven't played since Little League, so my
version of baseball in my head, and I was in
the eighth grade, I think, so my version of baseball
is not I think a camp.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Just because they say they're gonna just hummet right down
the middle for you, they still might pitch a little
bit inside, like I think, seeing they all throw one
hundred miles an hour now, I don't think most people
know what one hundred miles an hour feels like.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Just to stand I don't think I've ever seen I
don't think I've ever been standing at the plate and
seen a ball going more than like fifty or sixty.
I think probably that's does That's not I'm just telling
you it would be the intimidation factor of hearing that.
I think the number of people they could you basically
just have to start swinging as soon as the pitch
is thrown. I mean, I think Clay, we just get
you to ask one of these major league pitchers, Hey,
(36:27):
can I get into like the practice area or whatever.
I need ten pitches on video and if you know
what I mean, and like we do something for like
I don't know, ton of the Tower.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
I'd rather you try it than me. Actually, this is
one of the rare Like I all right nervous. I
don't want to get hit by one hundred mile an
hour fastball. I don't even want to, like I would
be terrified.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
I think.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Well I was pretty wimpy about that too, Probably why
I stop playing baseball
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