December 30, 2025 • 34 mins
Hour 1 of today’s Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, hosted by Tudor Dixon from the WOOD Radio Studios in Grand Rapids, Michigan, dives deep into President Donald Trump’s economic agenda, energy independence, and emerging technology concerns. The program opens with an exclusive interview with U.S. Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick, highlighting the administration’s push to restore American manufacturing, lower energy costs, and boost consumer confidence. Key Economic Topics Covered: Affordability Wins: Gas, energy, and prescription drug prices are down, and interest rates have eased—but consumer confidence remains low. Lutnick outlines strategies to reverse this trend. Energy Policy: The Trump administration is prioritizing lower electricity costs by requiring data centers to contribute 10% of their power to local grids, turning tech infrastructure into a community asset. Reversing Climate Narratives: Lutnick criticizes past Democratic climate policies and explains how Trump’s “Drill Baby Drill” approach will expand oil and gas production, reopen coal plants, and leverage Alaska’s 635 million acres of oil reserves to secure U.S. energy dominance. Interest Rate Reform: Trump is considering replacing Fed Chair Jay Powell by May 2026 to bring rates closer to global norms, aiming to ease housing costs and restore the American dream of homeownership. Economic Growth Forecast: With $18 trillion committed to rebuilding America, GDP growth is projected to hit 5% next year and 6% the following year, driving job creation, higher wages, and tax relief (including no tax on tips, overtime, and Social Security). Manufacturing & Jobs: The administration’s plan to bring manufacturing back to the U.S. includes massive investments in advanced manufacturing and semiconductors—up to $700 billion nationwide, with flagship projects like a $20 billion Arizona semiconductor plant employing 3,000 technicians. High-paying technical jobs (starting at $75K and reaching $200K) will not require traditional college degrees, signaling a new era of skilled trades and automation-driven careers. Automotive Industry & Tariffs: Trump’s trade policies mandate automakers to build in America, increasing competition and lowering car prices. Financing incentives, such as tax-deductible car loans, aim to make vehicles more affordable for consumers. Technology & Privacy Concerns: Police Drones Later in Hour 1, Tudor Dixon and Kyle Olson tackle the rise of police drones in states like California, Ohio, and Louisiana. These drones can monitor public spaces, issue tickets, and interact with citizens—raising alarms about privacy rights, potential weaponization, and the expansion of a “police state.” The discussion warns of future risks involving AI, facial recognition, and pre-crime technology, urging listeners to stay vigilant as laws lag behind rapid tech adoption. Welfare Fraud Allegations in Ohio The hour closes with explosive claims of systemic welfare fraud in Ohio, following similar scandals in Minnesota. Attorney and Republican strategist Mehek Cook details allegations involving home healthcare scams, where individuals reportedly earn $70K–$90K annually through fraudulent claims. The conversation highlights: Lack of state audits and enforcement. Billions allegedly funneled back to Somalia. Political implications, including viral videos of elected officials prioritizing Somali interests over U.S. taxpayers. Calls for federal forensic audits, DOJ involvement, and accountability to protect taxpayer dollars. Audience callers express outrage, demanding penalties for states involved and praising citizen journalists for exposing corruption. The segment frames fraud as a national issue tied to immigration loopholes, political exploitation, and economic strain, reinforcing the Trump administration’s commitment to transparency and reform.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hello, and welcome to the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.
The guys are off today, but you've got me. I'm
Tutor Dixon from the Tutor Dixon Podcast and I'm coming
to you live from the Wood Radio Studios in Grand Rapids, Michigan.
We have a big show for you today and we
are starting with the US Secretary of Commerce, Howard Lutnik.
The Secretary is here to talk about affordability and President
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Trump's economic agenda.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Welcome, Secretary Lutnik.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Great to be here with you.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I'm so excited to have you because we have such
good news in the economy right now. We have lower
prices on gas, energy, prescription drugs, the interest rate is lower.
But I want to talk to you because we still
see signs that consumer confidence is low.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
How do we stop that? How do we change that?
What's happening there?
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Well, so you start with at least people have energy
prices down, So gas prices are down. But what we
going to focus on this year is getting the price
of electricity in people's houses down. See, people are worried
about it's if they see a big data center being
built in their neighborhood to think it, holy cap this
data center is going to suck up all the energy,
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and my price of my running my house is going
to go up. So what we're going to do is
we're going to require that these data centers give the
famous word, give give ten percent of their power to
the local grid to drive down the price of electricity.
So every one of these data centers, instead of becoming
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a bad thing for the community, becomes a party for
the community. And that's the way we're going to turn
this hard so that not only are gas prices down,
but electricity prices down. So that's one example of the
way we're thinking about this.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Okay, I like that, but we are freaked out because
of what the Democrats did with all of this energy.
We have very little supply in states like Michigan where
I am they.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I mean, we had the Trump administration save the.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Power plant that actually powers my neighborhood because they wanted
to shut it down. How do we reverse all of
these years of damage from this fake climate story.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
They had the.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Right. We have gas, possibly the most in the world,
and we have oil, and you know what, China's got
They got only coal. They don't have gas, and they
don't have oil. So what they did is they the
Chinese created this narrative that, you know, let's be environmental
because what they were doing is they were suckering us
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because we have gas and we have oil. So let's
get us to start doing electric cars. Why because they
make batteries and we do not. I mean, how stupid
is that? How about My favorite is Europe. They currently
think they need to go to all electric cars by
twenty thirty and they don't even make a battery. They're
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going to make themselves subservient to the Chinese. So dumb.
So thank god we've got President Trump and the White
House who understands it and is quickly changing it. So
that's why we are going all in our drill, baby drill.
We're going to get gas pipelines rolling again. Right. We
are building as fast as we can these gas turbines,
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and we are going to open clean, beautiful coal. Right.
These are the moves that are our assets. I mean,
if we're the richest country in the world, right, why
would we It's like we're the fastest runner in the world.
Yet we're trying to run the race holding our right
hand on our right ankle. I mean, it's just dopey,
right like Biden closed right Alaska, where we have six
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hundred and thirty five million acres of oil, as much
oil as Saudi Arabia. We have got to use our
assets and the power and strains of America to drive
down the cost of energy here to make sure America
stays the richest country in the world. And as I said,
thank goodness, got Donald Trump in the White House who
understands it, and you got people in this cabinet who
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really understand it and are going to drive this home.
And you're going to see this during his term. He
thinks in terms of this term.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Now, okay, so let me ask you this. When I
was in manufacturing and we were shipping casting and steel
castings all across the United States of America, suddenly the
cost of gas goes way up and we put.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Surg charges on our products.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
And then we bring those surcharges down as the price
of gas goes down and the product becomes less expensive.
So I keep being told, doesn't matter what the price
of gas is the products. Now that the retailers have
the products at a certain price, they're going to stay
at that price.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Why is it not that we're.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Going to see as the cost of goods shipping across
the country goes down in price.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Why can't we see those prices go down.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
It's all about capitalism and competition. If there's no competition,
the price is going to stay high and the guy's
going to make more mone Right. If we've got competition,
someone will say, look, my costs are lower, I'm going
to sell it lower. And that's that's the beauty of capitalism. Right.
We've got to make it so that we bring manufacturing home,
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we bring competitive manufacturing home.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Not only does it produce.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
The jobs, right, and both the construction jobs and the
operating jobs, but it brings more production here, which creates
that competition, which drives down those prices. And so when
the President says he's got eighteen trillion dollars eighteen trillion
committed to build in America, what you're going to see
is you saw four point three percent this quarter. Right.
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Next quarter is going to be a little weird because
we had the shutdown. I don't know how that affects things,
but you're going to see next year. I think I
called it this year I said you were going to
cross four. I think next year we cross five, and
we've got a good shot following it. Across six percent
GDP growth. That means we're going to be growing. The
growth of the United States of America will equal or
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be bigger than virtually every other country in the world.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
What does that mean to the average person, Well, if
you think about it from the average person, it means
more jobs, higher wages, more jobs and higher wages, and.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
It fixes you know, the overall the company and the
fixes are deficit, so the president can bring down taxes.
If you think about it, it's this kind of growth
that allowed him to say no tax on tips, no
tax on overtime, and no tax on Social Security. These
people don't feel that yet. They won't feel it truth
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until April. Right, you're working for tips and you're working
for overtime. You know it sounds good like you heard
it on TV. But when does it hit my pocket?
You know, when it hits your pocket April. So what
you want to do is you want to have me
on this radio show at the end of April when
it's everybody's happy because they finally got the checks in
their pockets one thousand, two thousand dollars in their pocket
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and they see how President Trump is delivering for them.
So we've got to get electricity prices down. We've got
to drive interest rates now because this this housing crap
with you know, Jay Powell kept the interest rates too high.
Why is the greatest economy in the world, with the greatest,
greatest credit in the world, paying like the thirtieth highest
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interest rate in the world.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I heard the President yesterday saying he doesn't know if
he's made a decision on firing him yet or not.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Well, he's deeply thinking about it because the guy, you know,
did a disaster with building the building for four billion dollars,
which was like totally you know, ripping off America. Spend
it's four billion dollars on some building where economists live.
You got to be kidne me. But the answer is
he has no matter which way he plays it. By May,
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he's going to have a new chairman of the FED,
and that new Chairman of the Fed's job is going
to be to get the interest rates fairly where they
should be. Why is everyone else in the world paying
two percent and we're paying four Why and what you
know what that does. That's what Biden did. He took
when Donald Trump left office first time whome buyers, their
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age was thirty three. Makes some sense now after Biden's
ridiculous runaway inflation, it's forty years old. WHOA, that's cral Like,
imagine the first average first time home buyer in America
is forty as. They're unhappy because what they feel is
like the American dream has been stolen from them. Right,
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they got ripped off when they went to college, right,
they got charged again. They come out of college with
two hundred thousand dollars of student loans, right, and they
don't get a rocking job when you graduate college. So
like that dream has treated them unfairly. It didn't really
train them to get the great jobs. And then because
we took away like shop class and we took pray,
the ability for real people to work with their hands,
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real people to have those great jobs. Is bringing those
great jobs back. And we are going to do the
greatest training program in the history of America because you know,
automation and advanced manufacturing is coming to America. You know
what that advanced manufacturing needs. It needs technicians, right, it
needs people who understand how to fix bi tech products.
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Jobs start at seventy five grand, go up to one
hundred and fifty grand, two hundred grand, and that does
not require a marketing degree from some college.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I mean, we're already there. And this is what this
is what I've told people.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
If you go to any machine shop in this country,
you are going to see a environment that is clean,
that is automated, that is a good work environment, great benefits,
and you're going to be able to run your job
from your cell phone, from a computer. These are not
the jobs of the past that people think of. But
how do we convince the American people of that? And
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as we're talking about this, and we're talking about bringing
manufacturing back to the United States, and obviously that's where
my heart has always been. I think that there is
an opportunity for those big ticket items to go down
in price. You talk about capitalism, but I'm hearing the
Big Three, I'm hearing the automotive industry saying that bringing
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these having these tariffs, bringing these companies back to the
United States is actually going to allow us to get
lower prices on our cars. Do you think that's going
to happen?
Speaker 4 (10:25):
It's definitely going to happen. It's absolutely going to happen
because now you've got everybody's got to build here. And
look at what happened to the Big three automakers when
Donald Trump started this process. They were worried and afraid
because what happened is we had exported our jobs. I mean,
imagine treating Mexico and Canada like their Alabama in Georgia,
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so you could just drive across the border back and forth,
back and forth. So of course the automakers they went
to Mexico. You can break the union and you can
get cheap Mexican labor, right, and not the same jobs.
It's just it was ridiculous how Clinton did that. It
was crazy town. So Donald Trump fixes it, says, you've
got to build in America. Right, they're gonna be great
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jobs people in America. But more importantly, everybody's got to
build in America. The competition's going to be insane, and
we're going to drive the price of cars down. That's
the whole idea. Plus, if you want to buy a
car and you want to finance the car, it's deductible.
Because Donald Trump understands that that's a good way to
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make it cheaper for people to buy cars. So I
think car prices are gonna come down. But the most
exciting thing, like I flew out to Arizona to this
semiconductive plant. Then we're gonna have five hundred to seven
hundred billion dollars of semiconductive plants being built in America.
There was a twenty billion dollar factory, the sexiest looking
factory you've ever seen in your life. Three thousand people
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working there, all technicians, right, all people working with their hands.
And I and interviewed these guys and sat with them,
and they said, I have the greatest job. And I said,
what's your job? He goes. I'm officially a pipefitter, he goes.
But my job is tetris he goes. I's the most
sophisticated pipe fitting in the history of the world. This
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is the most complex, most exciting job. I love my job.
And that was the example, right, the guy and I said,
how much to make? He goes. I got hired at
seventy five and now make a bucket a quarter. Right,
I have the best job. Every day I come to
work and I love what I do because it's the
most complex, but it's exactly what I want to do.
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All right, this is the job that are coming.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yeah, well, I hey, I hear it. I appreciate it.
I see it here in the state of Michigan. I
think people are seeing it all across the country and
we are looking forward to a wonderful twenty twenty six
with this administration. The United States Secretary of Commerce, Howard Lutnik,
thank you so much for being on.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
The show today. Great being here, and thank you all.
Stick around.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
We're going to be talking midterms with former Trump campaign
and our NC political director James Blair will be right back.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Play Travis and Buck Sexton telling it like it is.
Just find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever
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Speaker 2 (13:15):
Welcome back to the Clay and Bucks Show. I am
Tutor Dixon and I'm guest hosting today. I have Kyle
Olsen with me from The Midwesterner. Read that at the
Midwesterner that news, and I want to jump right into
police drones. I don't know if you guys have heard
about these police drones.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
They're out there and all over.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Actually I saw it in the Wall Street Journal and
I just kind of started like going down this rabbit
hole of what exactly is a police drone. And apparently
they're out in California. They're going to the beach. They
have lights, they come up and talk to you, they
fly over you, and they tell you to get off
the beach, but they can actually give you a ticket.
So then as I'm like digging deeper into this and
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finding out that these are in Cincinnati, they're in Louisiana,
and I'm thinking this is the type of thing that
Kyle would tell me to think deeper about, to be
worried about.
Speaker 7 (14:06):
Well, I think so, because it really gets to the
police state, and we're seeing this across the country, whether
it's these drones, which you know, I would argue are
violating private property rights because they're just crossing.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
But so I want to say, the crazy thing about
this is because you say that there was this guy quoted.
He's from the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a foundation I've obviously
never heard of, Beryl lipped in and he says there
are so few restrictions on police drones when it comes
to citizen privacy because the technology is so new.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
So that to me is.
Speaker 7 (14:38):
Scary too, right, And we're seeing in a lot of
these States. The technologies developing, but the laws are not
keeping up with the technology. And we're seeing this also
when it comes to speed cameras, red light cameras. You
know here in Michigan we have historically we have not
had red light cameras and speed cameras. But what the
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politicians will do is because they want to control our lives,
they will say, well, we just we want to have
speed cameras, but we just want them to protect people.
So we're only going to put them in construction zones,
or we're only going to put them in school zones.
But then, of course that's how they start the law,
and then it expands from there.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Wear a mask, stay six feet apart. It's only for
fifteen days. I mean, they use fear to control you.
That we've seen this before with COVID. That's exactly how
they controlled what we're going to do. This to me
is so much bigger because they're like, this is great.
It's first responders. They're going out and they're making sure
that if you have a gunfight, suddenly there's a police
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drone there. They can get through the traffic faster, they
can get to the fight faster. Well, wait a minute,
what are they doing once they get there? Are they
just monitoring? Are they just recording? And then at some
point are they going to be weaponized? I know that
sounds insane, but we use drones for that kind of thing,
So how do we know they're not going to be
weaponized at some point? And then we get into AI
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and pre crime and all of these things that freak
me out. In the past, we talked to a group
when I was running for office. We talked to a
group that wanted to do this type of thing in
schools where they're monitoring every face, and then every face
they don't recognize, they go, oh, that could be somebody
that's going to plan a crime in the school, and
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they prey on the parents' fear, like, oh, I don't
want to shoot her in my school. So yeah, I
do want this. I want everybody monitored. But at a
certain point are we all monitored? Are we all going
to be watched? At a certain point do we say
we're not going to allow ourselves to be facial recognition AI,
police drones, weaponized drones out on the streets with our kids.
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We just got to be aware of this. We got
to watch what's happening. Stay tuned, We're going to be
back with fraud in Ohio.
Speaker 8 (16:56):
Play Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines. Welcome
back to.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
The Clay and Buck Show. I'm Tutor Dixon.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I'm guest hoping hosting today and I'm coming to you
live from the Wood Radio Studios here in Grand Rapids, Michigan.
Our next guest has actually joined me on the Tutor
Dixon podcast in the Clan Buck podcast network, and you've
seen her all over TV. She is attorney and Republican
strategist Maheck Cook. Maheck, Welcome to the program.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Tudor, thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
I am so excited because you are in Ohio most
of the time. I don't think you're in Ohio right now,
but most of the time you're in Ohio, and right
now social media is buzzing with these fraud videos. You've
been talking about what's going on in Ohio, we're seeing
it in Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
People are as aware of what's going on around the country,
but it's happening in Ohio.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
To tell us what you've seen.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
There, So Tudor, you know, honestly, once the Minnesota fraud
had been exposed, many people started coming to me and
say the same things happening in Ohio, And with very
easy research, I was able to detect that we have
the second largest Somalian population and they're concentrated in Columbus.
There has been years of claims, whether it was fraud
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through home health care services or daycare centers, and so
several of the whistleblowers came to me and said that
they had reported broad and nothing has happened, and they
provided me with evidences. And I looked into this and
realized that there is alleged fraud with individuals claiming that
they need home health services. So you could be somebody
who decides to take your aging parent in in the
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state of Ohio and be a home health care provider.
You can earn between I would say seventy to ninety
thousand dollars, depending on how many hours you qualify for
and how many hours of quote care your parent needs.
But most of these parents aren't getting the care according
to these providers. They don't qualify for home help because
they don't have the medical condition that's necessary. And when
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the home health providers would push back on these unnamed sources,
I can't disclose it. They would say, well, we're going
to shop for a doctor that will rubber stand my
paperwork because we've had it before and we're going to
get it again. And I think that this fraud is rampant.
And when you have a welfare system that's not actually auditing,
but not making sure that people actually need the services
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that are really meant for Ohioans that are disabled, with
kids with autism, you can fill in the blank on
the people that need services, and it's being taken by
a minority of people that are abusing the system, Well,
you get fraud. And Minnesota was just the tip of
the sphere. If you continue to see every state needs
to audit their welfare program. I don't think it's being
done today, and it's clearly being exposed all over social media.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
There's so much to say here too, because the reason
it doesn't always get audited is because there's this radical media.
There's these radical electives who are like, you can't say
that people can't get this welfare. This is critical, but
it's hurting, as you pointed out so importantly, it is
hurting the people of Ohio. It is hurting the people
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of the United States who deserve these services. When I
traveled around our state, it was amazing the number of
people who said, we can't get the home healthcare money
that we were expecting. And these are people who have
loved ones who are quadriplegics, who can't take care of themselves.
They have true medical conditions and they can't get it.
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But these folks in Ohio, in Minnesota, they're taking this money.
Is this a state by state issue or is this
something the federal government can get involved in?
Speaker 5 (20:37):
So I think we need a twofold approach. I think
we need to audit America state by state. We need
to work with the federal government. We need actual forensic
auditors to come in because I don't trust the states
to actually do their job. Look at what Minnesota's doing.
They're actually denying fraud after massive evidence of it. We
have ninety nine people that have been indicted through pam
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Body and the DOJ, so I don't trust dates. I
think federal government needs to create another division in my opinion,
and the DOJ. Plenty of attorneys have reached out to
me personally to say, we will do this for free,
to expose the fraud. We will do the leg work.
We want to make sure this money returns to taxpayers
who need it, and You're right, it's heartbreaking. I can't
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tell you how many people have reached out and said,
my mother needs care, she has cancer, my wife filled
the blank, and I've been able to provide them at
least with good doctors and providers that will actually assess
their parents and help them through the process. That's what
we're supposed to be doing, not just handing it over
to a group of people that were put on us
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in the nineties, massive communities that never assimilated but turned
out to gain the system. And I'm tired of the
word racist tutor. Today it's about I don't care what
you look like, I don't care what you sound like.
If you come to the United States, you better follow
our rule of law, and if you don't, you need
to leave. I think two words for people today. If
you are committing and you aren't a US citizen or
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you're not a taxpayer, get out. That's what I want
in this country. I want our money to return back
to taxpayers who deserve it. So every state needs to
work with the federal government. Any state who doesn't decide
to audit that tells you everything you need to know
that they are hiding something.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Well, I mean, think about it.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
When Governor Walls was running his failed vice presidential campaign,
he was out there saying, we're leading, we're leading in
home healthcare, we're leading in childcare, in the state funding childcare.
And now we find out billions of dollars went back
to Somalia. It seems to be a lot of Somali communities.
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Why so widespread? I mean, this isn't It's very weird
to me. It's Minnesota, it's Maine, it's Ohio. It's like
not a climate that's similar to Somalia. What is happening here?
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Well, a lot of these individuals, again, we didn't process
them one by one to see if they're going to
add value to the United States of America. We allowed
them to come in on asylum and refugee status, and
they came in in groups, and then they figured out
what states had a low bar for home health networks daycares,
and they'd come in and drove. They haven't assimilated. And
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my biggest problem today is as they're committing fraud, as
they're committing violations, we're not having state enforcement. We're not
having auditing. And everybody claims that, well, you can't target
one community, Well you certainly can. If it's happening in
just one community, then you've got to take the stuff seriously.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
I mean, not assimilating is like an understatement.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
You've got people who are elected officials who are openly
in campaign videos talking about how they have to take
care of their home country, our country which they are
referring to Somalia. Sometimes they catch themselves and say our
former country. But they're still campaigning on sending money to Somalia,
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not on taking care of the community here. How is
it possible that these people get elected with the message
of we're sending money to another country, we're getting into
the US government to take care of Somalia.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Ohio representative. If mel Muhammad actually has a video and
it is going now viral, he is Somalian in Ohio
got elected and he has a video saying that they
have a group chat ilhan Omar is part of this
many others. I haven't seen the chat, clearly not Samalians.
Don't know who else is a part of it, but
he is alleging that their main goal is to fight
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for Somalia to help Somalian debt and to send money back.
And when you look at his district, most of the
Somalians live there. I haven't gone through his FEC filings
yet to see what type of election donations he gets,
but I think common sense without even looking would tell
you that the majority of the Somalian community obviously voted
for him if they were in the district, and then
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they sent money to his campaign. I mean, we are
being infiltrated by people who don't want to assimilate and
who hate America, like Ilhan Omar. And this is just
now the national narrative that we're fighting in the Democrat Party.
But we allowed it. I mean both administrations have allowed
for asylum claims and refugee I practice immigration law, and
I can tell you when you continue to just let
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people say the word asylum without investigation, that's when fraud starts.
That's when we start a welfare system that's not actually
taking care of American taxpayers.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Well, we also allowed this sympathetic attitude toward people who
openly said that they were here because they hate America
and they want to take it over. And that's something
that is is we've heard from Ilhan Omar. And in fact,
that video that you're talking about, I'm pretty sure that
the guy you're talking about in the video, the elected
official in Ohio refers to Congresswoman Omar as their representative
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at the federal level, like the Somalian representative at the federal.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
One hundred percent right. And to come to this country
to represent us and then to turn turn your backs
on American taxpayers and say we're here to represent Somalia.
I mean again, this is the infiltration of a community
that does not want to work for the best interests
of American taxpayers. And I think voters are waking up today.
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And part of it is because we were drowning under
Joe Biden's inflation, inability to afford gas, groceries, baby formula,
and milk, you name it. And so many people at
least in Ohio that are reaching out to me or
saying we can barely afford a lot of the things
through the previous administration. Thank God for President Trump, But
how is it that Somalians are getting our tax dollars
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and I can't take care of my aging parents. So
I think the hypocrisy is what's going to tank the Democrats.
We have to be smarter, we have to be stronger
as a voting base. But I also think Tutor it
comes down to if elected officials will not do these audits,
we're not going to need to get the Trump administration
involved in every single state elon divid on a federal level.
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So ask for it on the state level. Ask to
the federal partnership. I know that this president is transparent
and willing to fight. We have a national debt that
is in the trillions of dollars. This is the only
way to fight it. Weed out illegals, broadways to abuse.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Thank you so much for sharing and thank you for
fighting every day. Attorney and Republican strategists based in Ohio,
maheck Cook, thank you for being here.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
Thanks so much.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
As we listen to this, I mean, it is shocking,
it's stunning. I want to hear what you guys think
about this, So I want you to call in.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
The number is eight hundred.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Two eight two two eight eight to two, call in
so we can hear your thoughts. I mean, I want
to hear, Kyle what they have to say about the
police drones that we talked about earlier too. So when
we went to commercial everybody, it's like, that's terrifying to
think that we're going to have police drones all over
we are being monitored by police. This is not being
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monitored again, call in, it's eight hundred two eight two
eight two. Tell us what you think. But isn't that
shocking to you when you hear this compared to what
we just said about the police drums?
Speaker 7 (28:08):
Well, and I think people have legitimate questions about Okay,
this is being uncovered and it's taking citizen journalists to
uncover it. Now, what's going to be done? Is the
state going to do an investigation? In Ohio? For example?
Is Mike Dwine the governor of Ohio? Is what is
he going to do?
Speaker 2 (28:26):
What is the legislature sure the governor of Minnesota to
resign because it seems as though he's been somewhat complicit
in this.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
There's no question about that. There's no question because the
situation with Minnesota, it was talked about in twenty eighteen
and Kamala Harris when she vetted him, she knew that
this was a problem and she went with him anyway
because I think that they are they're indifferent to it.
They use this money to buy votes, to win districts,
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to win elections, to register people to vote. This is
how this is one of the ways that they're winning
and it and it needs to be exposed and people
need to be held accountable. And I agree with her.
When states aren't going to do something, the Trump administration
has to do something. These these problems are being exposed.
There needs to be accountability. People want to see accountability.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
It's just interesting to me because people pushed back so
hard on Doje, They were anti Elon.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
They they thought he was moving too fast. I think
it had to happen.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
I think he had to do what he did to
prepare our minds to see what this is.
Speaker 7 (29:35):
But I don't know that our minds are prepared because
we're seeing billions and billions of dollars in Minnesota. Well
what is what is a significantly bigger state that probably
is worse California? And how do we even can we
even wrap our minds around the amount of potential fraud
that are that's happening in places like California.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Can you even get into a state like California that's
so protected by Democrats.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
I mean, they've got they've got registration, same day registration.
They've got ballot harvesting.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
I mean, they have it so protected that it is
Democrat land and you can't get in. We want to
know what you think. We're gonna go to a break,
but we want you to call in. It's eight hundred
two eight two two eight eight two call us. We'll
be right back with your audience answers and questions after this.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Do you guys walk up to a micy anything goes
Clay Travis and Buck sext to find them on the
free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Welcome back to the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.
I am Tutor Dixon from the Tutor Dixon Podcast alongside
Kyle Olsen from the Midwestern Dot News, and we are
coming to you live from the Wood Radio Studios in
Grand Rapids, Michigan. Kyle, we want to take some audience
questions about what we've been talking about. So just a reminder,
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we've been talking about police drones, and we've been talking
about this fraud coming out of Ohio. And it looks
like we've got Cheryl calling from Wisconsin.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
So let's take Cheryl. Cheryl, what's up? What do you
want to talk about.
Speaker 9 (31:19):
You know, I am so disgusted. I am so sick
when to just learn about something like this, all of
us that live day to day have no idea what
is going on until somebody like Nicholas Shirley. Thank god
for this guy who is joining us. I'll tell you
right now. President Trunk needs to get this guy on
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his team. This is amazing, but it's also it's sickening
what these people have done to our country to not
even investigate these these businesses that have dark windows.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
And I mean, but to think that this kid just
walked up. I mean, that's all it took was for him.
Speaker 7 (32:06):
And that's to me, that's what's so significant about it.
You know, you've got you have sixty Minutes, you have CNN,
you have all of these networks. They've got you know,
massive budgets and you know, highly experienced people and everything.
But then you have a citizen journalist that goes up
and just ask questions and exposes the truth.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Yeah, yeah, Cheryl, thank you so much for calling it.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
We're hoping that the administration is listening and they are
going to do something. I want to bring Jim in
really quick from Florida because Jim. Jim sounds like he's
mad as well.
Speaker 10 (32:39):
Yeah, tut Or, how you doing. I hope you had
a merry.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Christmas, very merry Christmas.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
Well, I'll tell you this.
Speaker 10 (32:45):
I want that state penalized because I'm going to tell
you this, there's no way Elmer Fudd looking Waltz did
not know that was happening. And you know, and I
know he did because of the fact they always bring
up this racial clonent. They're afraid to confront the Somali community.
That's not my problem. I think taxes in Florida for
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federal dollars to go to every state in this union,
and I want that money back for every citizen that
plays the fairway.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
I want the money back.
Speaker 10 (33:17):
And Jim, I don't know what more to say.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
We agree, appreciate it, we agree, we appreciate you calling.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Hey, everybody, stay or stick around.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
We're going to be back with our two of the Clay,
Travis and Buck Sexton Show in the meantime. While you're
in the break, find me on social media at Tutor
Dixon and subscribe to the Tutor Dixon podcast that's in
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it wherever you listen to or watch your podcasts, but
stay right here. We're going to be back with more
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Speaker 8 (34:00):
Clay, Travis, and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hello, and welcome to the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.
The guys are off today, but you've got me. I'm
Tutor Dixon from the Tutor Dixon Podcast and I'm coming
to you live from the Wood Radio Studios in Grand Rapids, Michigan.
We have a big show for you today and we
are starting with the US Secretary of Commerce, Howard Lutnik.
The Secretary is here to talk about affordability and President
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Trump's economic agenda.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Welcome, Secretary Lutnik.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Great to be here with you.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I'm so excited to have you because we have such
good news in the economy right now. We have lower
prices on gas, energy, prescription drugs, the interest rate is lower.
But I want to talk to you because we still
see signs that consumer confidence is low.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
How do we stop that? How do we change that?
What's happening there?
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Well, so you start with at least people have energy
prices down, So gas prices are down. But what we
going to focus on this year is getting the price
of electricity in people's houses down. See, people are worried
about it's if they see a big data center being
built in their neighborhood to think it, holy cap this
data center is going to suck up all the energy,
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and my price of my running my house is going
to go up. So what we're going to do is
we're going to require that these data centers give the
famous word, give give ten percent of their power to
the local grid to drive down the price of electricity.
So every one of these data centers, instead of becoming
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a bad thing for the community, becomes a party for
the community. And that's the way we're going to turn
this hard so that not only are gas prices down,
but electricity prices down. So that's one example of the
way we're thinking about this.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Okay, I like that, but we are freaked out because
of what the Democrats did with all of this energy.
We have very little supply in states like Michigan where
I am they.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I mean, we had the Trump administration save the.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Power plant that actually powers my neighborhood because they wanted
to shut it down. How do we reverse all of
these years of damage from this fake climate story.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
They had the.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Right. We have gas, possibly the most in the world,
and we have oil, and you know what, China's got
They got only coal. They don't have gas, and they
don't have oil. So what they did is they the
Chinese created this narrative that, you know, let's be environmental
because what they were doing is they were suckering us
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because we have gas and we have oil. So let's
get us to start doing electric cars. Why because they
make batteries and we do not. I mean, how stupid
is that? How about My favorite is Europe. They currently
think they need to go to all electric cars by
twenty thirty and they don't even make a battery. They're
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going to make themselves subservient to the Chinese. So dumb.
So thank god we've got President Trump and the White
House who understands it and is quickly changing it. So
that's why we are going all in our drill, baby drill.
We're going to get gas pipelines rolling again. Right. We
are building as fast as we can these gas turbines,
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and we are going to open clean, beautiful coal. Right.
These are the moves that are our assets. I mean,
if we're the richest country in the world, right, why
would we It's like we're the fastest runner in the world.
Yet we're trying to run the race holding our right
hand on our right ankle. I mean, it's just dopey,
right like Biden closed right Alaska, where we have six
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hundred and thirty five million acres of oil, as much
oil as Saudi Arabia. We have got to use our
assets and the power and strains of America to drive
down the cost of energy here to make sure America
stays the richest country in the world. And as I said,
thank goodness, got Donald Trump in the White House who
understands it, and you got people in this cabinet who
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really understand it and are going to drive this home.
And you're going to see this during his term. He
thinks in terms of this term.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Now, okay, so let me ask you this. When I
was in manufacturing and we were shipping casting and steel
castings all across the United States of America, suddenly the
cost of gas goes way up and we put.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Surg charges on our products.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
And then we bring those surcharges down as the price
of gas goes down and the product becomes less expensive.
So I keep being told, doesn't matter what the price
of gas is the products. Now that the retailers have
the products at a certain price, they're going to stay
at that price.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Why is it not that we're.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Going to see as the cost of goods shipping across
the country goes down in price.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Why can't we see those prices go down.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
It's all about capitalism and competition. If there's no competition,
the price is going to stay high and the guy's
going to make more mone Right. If we've got competition,
someone will say, look, my costs are lower, I'm going
to sell it lower. And that's that's the beauty of capitalism. Right.
We've got to make it so that we bring manufacturing home,
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we bring competitive manufacturing home.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Not only does it produce.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
The jobs, right, and both the construction jobs and the
operating jobs, but it brings more production here, which creates
that competition, which drives down those prices. And so when
the President says he's got eighteen trillion dollars eighteen trillion
committed to build in America, what you're going to see
is you saw four point three percent this quarter. Right.
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Next quarter is going to be a little weird because
we had the shutdown. I don't know how that affects things,
but you're going to see next year. I think I
called it this year I said you were going to
cross four. I think next year we cross five, and
we've got a good shot following it. Across six percent
GDP growth. That means we're going to be growing. The
growth of the United States of America will equal or
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be bigger than virtually every other country in the world.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
What does that mean to the average person, Well, if
you think about it from the average person, it means
more jobs, higher wages, more jobs and higher wages, and.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
It fixes you know, the overall the company and the
fixes are deficit, so the president can bring down taxes.
If you think about it, it's this kind of growth
that allowed him to say no tax on tips, no
tax on overtime, and no tax on Social Security. These
people don't feel that yet. They won't feel it truth
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until April. Right, you're working for tips and you're working
for overtime. You know it sounds good like you heard
it on TV. But when does it hit my pocket?
You know, when it hits your pocket April. So what
you want to do is you want to have me
on this radio show at the end of April when
it's everybody's happy because they finally got the checks in
their pockets one thousand, two thousand dollars in their pocket
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and they see how President Trump is delivering for them.
So we've got to get electricity prices down. We've got
to drive interest rates now because this this housing crap
with you know, Jay Powell kept the interest rates too high.
Why is the greatest economy in the world, with the greatest,
greatest credit in the world, paying like the thirtieth highest
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interest rate in the world.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I heard the President yesterday saying he doesn't know if
he's made a decision on firing him yet or not.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Well, he's deeply thinking about it because the guy, you know,
did a disaster with building the building for four billion dollars,
which was like totally you know, ripping off America. Spend
it's four billion dollars on some building where economists live.
You got to be kidne me. But the answer is
he has no matter which way he plays it. By May,
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he's going to have a new chairman of the FED,
and that new Chairman of the Fed's job is going
to be to get the interest rates fairly where they
should be. Why is everyone else in the world paying
two percent and we're paying four Why and what you
know what that does. That's what Biden did. He took
when Donald Trump left office first time whome buyers, their
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age was thirty three. Makes some sense now after Biden's
ridiculous runaway inflation, it's forty years old. WHOA, that's cral Like,
imagine the first average first time home buyer in America
is forty as. They're unhappy because what they feel is
like the American dream has been stolen from them. Right,
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they got ripped off when they went to college, right,
they got charged again. They come out of college with
two hundred thousand dollars of student loans, right, and they
don't get a rocking job when you graduate college. So
like that dream has treated them unfairly. It didn't really
train them to get the great jobs. And then because
we took away like shop class and we took pray,
the ability for real people to work with their hands,
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real people to have those great jobs. Is bringing those
great jobs back. And we are going to do the
greatest training program in the history of America because you know,
automation and advanced manufacturing is coming to America. You know
what that advanced manufacturing needs. It needs technicians, right, it
needs people who understand how to fix bi tech products.
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Jobs start at seventy five grand, go up to one
hundred and fifty grand, two hundred grand, and that does
not require a marketing degree from some college.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I mean, we're already there. And this is what this
is what I've told people.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
If you go to any machine shop in this country,
you are going to see a environment that is clean,
that is automated, that is a good work environment, great benefits,
and you're going to be able to run your job
from your cell phone, from a computer. These are not
the jobs of the past that people think of. But
how do we convince the American people of that? And
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as we're talking about this, and we're talking about bringing
manufacturing back to the United States, and obviously that's where
my heart has always been. I think that there is
an opportunity for those big ticket items to go down
in price. You talk about capitalism, but I'm hearing the
Big Three, I'm hearing the automotive industry saying that bringing
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these having these tariffs, bringing these companies back to the
United States is actually going to allow us to get
lower prices on our cars. Do you think that's going
to happen?
Speaker 4 (10:25):
It's definitely going to happen. It's absolutely going to happen
because now you've got everybody's got to build here. And
look at what happened to the Big three automakers when
Donald Trump started this process. They were worried and afraid
because what happened is we had exported our jobs. I mean,
imagine treating Mexico and Canada like their Alabama in Georgia,
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so you could just drive across the border back and forth,
back and forth. So of course the automakers they went
to Mexico. You can break the union and you can
get cheap Mexican labor, right, and not the same jobs.
It's just it was ridiculous how Clinton did that. It
was crazy town. So Donald Trump fixes it, says, you've
got to build in America. Right, they're gonna be great
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jobs people in America. But more importantly, everybody's got to
build in America. The competition's going to be insane, and
we're going to drive the price of cars down. That's
the whole idea. Plus, if you want to buy a
car and you want to finance the car, it's deductible.
Because Donald Trump understands that that's a good way to
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make it cheaper for people to buy cars. So I
think car prices are gonna come down. But the most
exciting thing, like I flew out to Arizona to this
semiconductive plant. Then we're gonna have five hundred to seven
hundred billion dollars of semiconductive plants being built in America.
There was a twenty billion dollar factory, the sexiest looking
factory you've ever seen in your life. Three thousand people
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working there, all technicians, right, all people working with their hands.
And I and interviewed these guys and sat with them,
and they said, I have the greatest job. And I said,
what's your job? He goes. I'm officially a pipefitter, he goes.
But my job is tetris he goes. I's the most
sophisticated pipe fitting in the history of the world. This
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is the most complex, most exciting job. I love my job.
And that was the example, right, the guy and I said,
how much to make? He goes. I got hired at
seventy five and now make a bucket a quarter. Right,
I have the best job. Every day I come to
work and I love what I do because it's the
most complex, but it's exactly what I want to do.
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All right, this is the job that are coming.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yeah, well, I hey, I hear it. I appreciate it.
I see it here in the state of Michigan. I
think people are seeing it all across the country and
we are looking forward to a wonderful twenty twenty six
with this administration. The United States Secretary of Commerce, Howard Lutnik,
thank you so much for being on.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
The show today. Great being here, and thank you all.
Stick around.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
We're going to be talking midterms with former Trump campaign
and our NC political director James Blair will be right back.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Play Travis and Buck Sexton telling it like it is.
Just find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever
you get your podcasts.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Welcome back to the Clay and Bucks Show. I am
Tutor Dixon and I'm guest hosting today. I have Kyle
Olsen with me from The Midwesterner. Read that at the
Midwesterner that news, and I want to jump right into
police drones. I don't know if you guys have heard
about these police drones.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
They're out there and all over.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Actually I saw it in the Wall Street Journal and
I just kind of started like going down this rabbit
hole of what exactly is a police drone. And apparently
they're out in California. They're going to the beach. They
have lights, they come up and talk to you, they
fly over you, and they tell you to get off
the beach, but they can actually give you a ticket.
So then as I'm like digging deeper into this and
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finding out that these are in Cincinnati, they're in Louisiana,
and I'm thinking this is the type of thing that
Kyle would tell me to think deeper about, to be
worried about.
Speaker 7 (14:06):
Well, I think so, because it really gets to the
police state, and we're seeing this across the country, whether
it's these drones, which you know, I would argue are
violating private property rights because they're just crossing.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
But so I want to say, the crazy thing about
this is because you say that there was this guy quoted.
He's from the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a foundation I've obviously
never heard of, Beryl lipped in and he says there
are so few restrictions on police drones when it comes
to citizen privacy because the technology is so new.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
So that to me is.
Speaker 7 (14:38):
Scary too, right, And we're seeing in a lot of
these States. The technologies developing, but the laws are not
keeping up with the technology. And we're seeing this also
when it comes to speed cameras, red light cameras. You
know here in Michigan we have historically we have not
had red light cameras and speed cameras. But what the
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politicians will do is because they want to control our lives,
they will say, well, we just we want to have
speed cameras, but we just want them to protect people.
So we're only going to put them in construction zones,
or we're only going to put them in school zones.
But then, of course that's how they start the law,
and then it expands from there.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Wear a mask, stay six feet apart. It's only for
fifteen days. I mean, they use fear to control you.
That we've seen this before with COVID. That's exactly how
they controlled what we're going to do. This to me
is so much bigger because they're like, this is great.
It's first responders. They're going out and they're making sure
that if you have a gunfight, suddenly there's a police
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drone there. They can get through the traffic faster, they
can get to the fight faster. Well, wait a minute,
what are they doing once they get there? Are they
just monitoring? Are they just recording? And then at some
point are they going to be weaponized? I know that
sounds insane, but we use drones for that kind of thing,
So how do we know they're not going to be
weaponized at some point? And then we get into AI
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and pre crime and all of these things that freak
me out. In the past, we talked to a group
when I was running for office. We talked to a
group that wanted to do this type of thing in
schools where they're monitoring every face, and then every face
they don't recognize, they go, oh, that could be somebody
that's going to plan a crime in the school, and
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they prey on the parents' fear, like, oh, I don't
want to shoot her in my school. So yeah, I
do want this. I want everybody monitored. But at a
certain point are we all monitored? Are we all going
to be watched? At a certain point do we say
we're not going to allow ourselves to be facial recognition AI,
police drones, weaponized drones out on the streets with our kids.
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We just got to be aware of this. We got
to watch what's happening. Stay tuned, We're going to be
back with fraud in Ohio.
Speaker 8 (16:56):
Play Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines. Welcome
back to.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
The Clay and Buck Show. I'm Tutor Dixon.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I'm guest hoping hosting today and I'm coming to you
live from the Wood Radio Studios here in Grand Rapids, Michigan.
Our next guest has actually joined me on the Tutor
Dixon podcast in the Clan Buck podcast network, and you've
seen her all over TV. She is attorney and Republican
strategist Maheck Cook. Maheck, Welcome to the program.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Tudor, thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
I am so excited because you are in Ohio most
of the time. I don't think you're in Ohio right now,
but most of the time you're in Ohio, and right
now social media is buzzing with these fraud videos. You've
been talking about what's going on in Ohio, we're seeing
it in Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
People are as aware of what's going on around the country,
but it's happening in Ohio.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
To tell us what you've seen.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
There, So Tudor, you know, honestly, once the Minnesota fraud
had been exposed, many people started coming to me and
say the same things happening in Ohio, And with very
easy research, I was able to detect that we have
the second largest Somalian population and they're concentrated in Columbus.
There has been years of claims, whether it was fraud
(18:13):
through home health care services or daycare centers, and so
several of the whistleblowers came to me and said that
they had reported broad and nothing has happened, and they
provided me with evidences. And I looked into this and
realized that there is alleged fraud with individuals claiming that
they need home health services. So you could be somebody
who decides to take your aging parent in in the
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state of Ohio and be a home health care provider.
You can earn between I would say seventy to ninety
thousand dollars, depending on how many hours you qualify for
and how many hours of quote care your parent needs.
But most of these parents aren't getting the care according
to these providers. They don't qualify for home help because
they don't have the medical condition that's necessary. And when
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the home health providers would push back on these unnamed sources,
I can't disclose it. They would say, well, we're going
to shop for a doctor that will rubber stand my
paperwork because we've had it before and we're going to
get it again. And I think that this fraud is rampant.
And when you have a welfare system that's not actually auditing,
but not making sure that people actually need the services
(19:19):
that are really meant for Ohioans that are disabled, with
kids with autism, you can fill in the blank on
the people that need services, and it's being taken by
a minority of people that are abusing the system, Well,
you get fraud. And Minnesota was just the tip of
the sphere. If you continue to see every state needs
to audit their welfare program. I don't think it's being
done today, and it's clearly being exposed all over social media.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
There's so much to say here too, because the reason
it doesn't always get audited is because there's this radical media.
There's these radical electives who are like, you can't say
that people can't get this welfare. This is critical, but
it's hurting, as you pointed out so importantly, it is
hurting the people of Ohio. It is hurting the people
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of the United States who deserve these services. When I
traveled around our state, it was amazing the number of
people who said, we can't get the home healthcare money
that we were expecting. And these are people who have
loved ones who are quadriplegics, who can't take care of themselves.
They have true medical conditions and they can't get it.
(20:27):
But these folks in Ohio, in Minnesota, they're taking this money.
Is this a state by state issue or is this
something the federal government can get involved in?
Speaker 5 (20:37):
So I think we need a twofold approach. I think
we need to audit America state by state. We need
to work with the federal government. We need actual forensic
auditors to come in because I don't trust the states
to actually do their job. Look at what Minnesota's doing.
They're actually denying fraud after massive evidence of it. We
have ninety nine people that have been indicted through pam
(20:59):
Body and the DOJ, so I don't trust dates. I
think federal government needs to create another division in my opinion,
and the DOJ. Plenty of attorneys have reached out to
me personally to say, we will do this for free,
to expose the fraud. We will do the leg work.
We want to make sure this money returns to taxpayers
who need it, and You're right, it's heartbreaking. I can't
(21:19):
tell you how many people have reached out and said,
my mother needs care, she has cancer, my wife filled
the blank, and I've been able to provide them at
least with good doctors and providers that will actually assess
their parents and help them through the process. That's what
we're supposed to be doing, not just handing it over
to a group of people that were put on us
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in the nineties, massive communities that never assimilated but turned
out to gain the system. And I'm tired of the
word racist tutor. Today it's about I don't care what
you look like, I don't care what you sound like.
If you come to the United States, you better follow
our rule of law, and if you don't, you need
to leave. I think two words for people today. If
you are committing and you aren't a US citizen or
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you're not a taxpayer, get out. That's what I want
in this country. I want our money to return back
to taxpayers who deserve it. So every state needs to
work with the federal government. Any state who doesn't decide
to audit that tells you everything you need to know
that they are hiding something.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Well, I mean, think about it.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
When Governor Walls was running his failed vice presidential campaign,
he was out there saying, we're leading, we're leading in
home healthcare, we're leading in childcare, in the state funding childcare.
And now we find out billions of dollars went back
to Somalia. It seems to be a lot of Somali communities.
(22:40):
Why so widespread? I mean, this isn't It's very weird
to me. It's Minnesota, it's Maine, it's Ohio. It's like
not a climate that's similar to Somalia. What is happening here?
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Well, a lot of these individuals, again, we didn't process
them one by one to see if they're going to
add value to the United States of America. We allowed
them to come in on asylum and refugee status, and
they came in in groups, and then they figured out
what states had a low bar for home health networks daycares,
and they'd come in and drove. They haven't assimilated. And
(23:13):
my biggest problem today is as they're committing fraud, as
they're committing violations, we're not having state enforcement. We're not
having auditing. And everybody claims that, well, you can't target
one community, Well you certainly can. If it's happening in
just one community, then you've got to take the stuff seriously.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
I mean, not assimilating is like an understatement.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
You've got people who are elected officials who are openly
in campaign videos talking about how they have to take
care of their home country, our country which they are
referring to Somalia. Sometimes they catch themselves and say our
former country. But they're still campaigning on sending money to Somalia,
(23:56):
not on taking care of the community here. How is
it possible that these people get elected with the message
of we're sending money to another country, we're getting into
the US government to take care of Somalia.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Ohio representative. If mel Muhammad actually has a video and
it is going now viral, he is Somalian in Ohio
got elected and he has a video saying that they
have a group chat ilhan Omar is part of this
many others. I haven't seen the chat, clearly not Samalians.
Don't know who else is a part of it, but
he is alleging that their main goal is to fight
(24:33):
for Somalia to help Somalian debt and to send money back.
And when you look at his district, most of the
Somalians live there. I haven't gone through his FEC filings
yet to see what type of election donations he gets,
but I think common sense without even looking would tell
you that the majority of the Somalian community obviously voted
for him if they were in the district, and then
(24:55):
they sent money to his campaign. I mean, we are
being infiltrated by people who don't want to assimilate and
who hate America, like Ilhan Omar. And this is just
now the national narrative that we're fighting in the Democrat Party.
But we allowed it. I mean both administrations have allowed
for asylum claims and refugee I practice immigration law, and
I can tell you when you continue to just let
(25:17):
people say the word asylum without investigation, that's when fraud starts.
That's when we start a welfare system that's not actually
taking care of American taxpayers.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Well, we also allowed this sympathetic attitude toward people who
openly said that they were here because they hate America
and they want to take it over. And that's something
that is is we've heard from Ilhan Omar. And in fact,
that video that you're talking about, I'm pretty sure that
the guy you're talking about in the video, the elected
official in Ohio refers to Congresswoman Omar as their representative
(25:49):
at the federal level, like the Somalian representative at the federal.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
One hundred percent right. And to come to this country
to represent us and then to turn turn your backs
on American taxpayers and say we're here to represent Somalia.
I mean again, this is the infiltration of a community
that does not want to work for the best interests
of American taxpayers. And I think voters are waking up today.
(26:18):
And part of it is because we were drowning under
Joe Biden's inflation, inability to afford gas, groceries, baby formula,
and milk, you name it. And so many people at
least in Ohio that are reaching out to me or
saying we can barely afford a lot of the things
through the previous administration. Thank God for President Trump, But
how is it that Somalians are getting our tax dollars
(26:40):
and I can't take care of my aging parents. So
I think the hypocrisy is what's going to tank the Democrats.
We have to be smarter, we have to be stronger
as a voting base. But I also think Tutor it
comes down to if elected officials will not do these audits,
we're not going to need to get the Trump administration
involved in every single state elon divid on a federal level.
(27:01):
So ask for it on the state level. Ask to
the federal partnership. I know that this president is transparent
and willing to fight. We have a national debt that
is in the trillions of dollars. This is the only
way to fight it. Weed out illegals, broadways to abuse.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Thank you so much for sharing and thank you for
fighting every day. Attorney and Republican strategists based in Ohio,
maheck Cook, thank you for being here.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
Thanks so much.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
As we listen to this, I mean, it is shocking,
it's stunning. I want to hear what you guys think
about this, So I want you to call in.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
The number is eight hundred.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Two eight two two eight eight to two, call in
so we can hear your thoughts. I mean, I want
to hear, Kyle what they have to say about the
police drones that we talked about earlier too. So when
we went to commercial everybody, it's like, that's terrifying to
think that we're going to have police drones all over
we are being monitored by police. This is not being
(27:55):
monitored again, call in, it's eight hundred two eight two
eight two. Tell us what you think. But isn't that
shocking to you when you hear this compared to what
we just said about the police drums?
Speaker 7 (28:08):
Well, and I think people have legitimate questions about Okay,
this is being uncovered and it's taking citizen journalists to
uncover it. Now, what's going to be done? Is the
state going to do an investigation? In Ohio? For example?
Is Mike Dwine the governor of Ohio? Is what is
he going to do?
Speaker 2 (28:26):
What is the legislature sure the governor of Minnesota to
resign because it seems as though he's been somewhat complicit
in this.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
There's no question about that. There's no question because the
situation with Minnesota, it was talked about in twenty eighteen
and Kamala Harris when she vetted him, she knew that
this was a problem and she went with him anyway
because I think that they are they're indifferent to it.
They use this money to buy votes, to win districts,
(28:56):
to win elections, to register people to vote. This is
how this is one of the ways that they're winning
and it and it needs to be exposed and people
need to be held accountable. And I agree with her.
When states aren't going to do something, the Trump administration
has to do something. These these problems are being exposed.
There needs to be accountability. People want to see accountability.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
It's just interesting to me because people pushed back so
hard on Doje, They were anti Elon.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
They they thought he was moving too fast. I think
it had to happen.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
I think he had to do what he did to
prepare our minds to see what this is.
Speaker 7 (29:35):
But I don't know that our minds are prepared because
we're seeing billions and billions of dollars in Minnesota. Well
what is what is a significantly bigger state that probably
is worse California? And how do we even can we
even wrap our minds around the amount of potential fraud
that are that's happening in places like California.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Can you even get into a state like California that's
so protected by Democrats.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
I mean, they've got they've got registration, same day registration.
They've got ballot harvesting.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
I mean, they have it so protected that it is
Democrat land and you can't get in. We want to
know what you think. We're gonna go to a break,
but we want you to call in. It's eight hundred
two eight two two eight eight two call us. We'll
be right back with your audience answers and questions after this.
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Speaker 2 (30:45):
Welcome back to the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.
I am Tutor Dixon from the Tutor Dixon Podcast alongside
Kyle Olsen from the Midwestern Dot News, and we are
coming to you live from the Wood Radio Studios in
Grand Rapids, Michigan. Kyle, we want to take some audience
questions about what we've been talking about. So just a reminder,
(31:05):
we've been talking about police drones, and we've been talking
about this fraud coming out of Ohio. And it looks
like we've got Cheryl calling from Wisconsin.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
So let's take Cheryl. Cheryl, what's up? What do you
want to talk about.
Speaker 9 (31:19):
You know, I am so disgusted. I am so sick
when to just learn about something like this, all of
us that live day to day have no idea what
is going on until somebody like Nicholas Shirley. Thank god
for this guy who is joining us. I'll tell you
right now. President Trunk needs to get this guy on
(31:43):
his team. This is amazing, but it's also it's sickening
what these people have done to our country to not
even investigate these these businesses that have dark windows.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
And I mean, but to think that this kid just
walked up. I mean, that's all it took was for him.
Speaker 7 (32:06):
And that's to me, that's what's so significant about it.
You know, you've got you have sixty Minutes, you have CNN,
you have all of these networks. They've got you know,
massive budgets and you know, highly experienced people and everything.
But then you have a citizen journalist that goes up
and just ask questions and exposes the truth.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Yeah, yeah, Cheryl, thank you so much for calling it.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
We're hoping that the administration is listening and they are
going to do something. I want to bring Jim in
really quick from Florida because Jim. Jim sounds like he's
mad as well.
Speaker 10 (32:39):
Yeah, tut Or, how you doing. I hope you had
a merry.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Christmas, very merry Christmas.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
Well, I'll tell you this.
Speaker 10 (32:45):
I want that state penalized because I'm going to tell
you this, there's no way Elmer Fudd looking Waltz did
not know that was happening. And you know, and I
know he did because of the fact they always bring
up this racial clonent. They're afraid to confront the Somali community.
That's not my problem. I think taxes in Florida for
(33:07):
federal dollars to go to every state in this union,
and I want that money back for every citizen that
plays the fairway.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
I want the money back.
Speaker 10 (33:17):
And Jim, I don't know what more to say.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
We agree, appreciate it, we agree, we appreciate you calling.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Hey, everybody, stay or stick around.
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