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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody to the Clay Travis and
Buck Sexton Show on this lovely Wednesday, all across the land.
(00:23):
A lot of news to talk about. Trump's big Golden Dome,
the biggest, beautifulest, most golden Dome. Talked about it yesterday,
got into some really interesting stuff about the future of warfare.
AI technology integrated into a global a global battlefield. It's
so much stuff to dive into on that, and we
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will update you on some of the key moments from it.
And our friend Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth was there
as well as long as well as the leader of
Space Force. Space Force getting their moment in the sun,
if you will. Something that Trump came up with as
an idea looks pretty prescient in retrospect, doesn't it. At
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the time, I remember there was a snickering. There was, Oh,
Space Force, what was it gonna be like Star Trek. No, Actually,
it's really important as Elon and SpaceX are the pre
eminent satellite launch company slash nation state in the world,
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and something like Clay, I think eighty percent of the
satellites in orbit. Are SpaceX launched at this point. So
the world is the world of space is changing so rapidly,
and it affects us so much. This is no longer
just about oh, maybe we can do a cool thing
and and get you know, figure out something the first
time we did this or no. No, this is affecting
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telecommunications for all of us. It's affecting targeting on the
battlefield's there's a huge world of stuff that we've been
thinking is coming for a long time. It is here imminently,
and so we'll talk a bit about that. Obviously, the
Golden Dome stuff is big. Clay is also going to
update us on this. Right. It was a state assembly
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woman in Maine's the It's crazy that the Supreme Court
of the United States had to weigh in to get
Laurel Libby, who is in Maine, and I know we
have a lot of people listening in Maine to get
her able to vote again because they basically stripped her
of all representative rights because she spoke out against a
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boy winning a girls championship in the state of Maine.
And so I we've had her on the show before
and we may have her on the show again. But
I just the world that we have entered where the
Supreme Court of the United States has to get involved
because Democrats don't want anyone to speak out against men
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and women's sports, and in fact will not allow them
to be representing district A. I buck this thing off
the crazy train. Democrats are on a crazy train going
so fast that I can't even believe some of the
places we end up. I know we have to keep
playing whack a mole with this too. I wish that
we could say this argument is done and over with.
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We won, but they won't stop. So we can't stop
because if we do, we seed ground to them in
their crazy anyway, Clay O bring us into that. I
think it's a really interest conversation. More from Tom Homan
on the border. But so look, let's take a moment here. Okay,
we had had this exchange here Clay and I and
all of you and a lot of you weighed in
about this book, that original sin, this book that has
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come out which I stand behind. I do not advise you. Know,
you can read some of the excerpts if you want online,
and you'll get the idea. I don't think that you
learn very much the specifics of the details might be
somewhat lurid, but we already knew all of this, So
this would only be news to people so foolish that
they believe the Democrat media when they said Biden didn't
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have dimension. This would only be a situation of oh
my gosh, revelation for people who were completely hoodwinked by
this con And we were not, as we know from you,
and neither were any of you. Because if you chose right, Claire,
if you choose to listen to this show, it means
you are independent, thinking enough and wise enough to see
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through the bull crap that places like CNN and the
Washington Post were peddling. Right, so we're already know. We're
sitting here like we already knew. Okay, but we had
talked about whether we would have Jake Tapper on to
talk about his book. I can tell you that Jake
Tapper is a guy who in earlier years, when CNN
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was feeling robust, he was a behind the scenes, a
very nasty guy with very sharp elbows and very underhanded
in his dealings with people in media, in my opinion,
and I could give lots of details about it, and
now all of a sudden, he's coming out like a
whipped dog like now, all of a sudden, it's well,
you know, I guess maybe I was wrong. Okay, So
(05:09):
do we have him on or not? That was the question. Well,
now I think it's kind of moot because he went
on Meghan Kelly's show. And full credit to Meghan, who
is a great interviewer and is you know, is fearless.
She and Jake are friends, and she's open about that
they're friends. He went on her show. I thought, come on,
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there's no way she's gonna really hold him to account. Now,
would he have gotten rougher stuff, Clay if he had
come on this show first? Yes, But did she fulfill
the necessary role here of not letting him get away
with lies and nonsense and asking the tough questions? Yes
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she did, Yes she did. I mean I think on
this show it would have been like it would have
been hard for me not to start swearing, honestly. But
here we go. Let's start with some of this club's
work through some of this together. This is one of
the better moments. This is from Megan's interview with Tapp
and then you say, Buck, why are we talking about this?
Because we're still in the early stages of the Democrats
finally admitting what we were saying all along. And it's
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the biggest political scandal of our lifetime. I don't know
what could be bigger than this. And it's the biggest
media scandal of our lifetime for sure. This is cut
to Megan Kelly's show with tap or play it over here.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
In my ecosphere, we were covering all of these. It
wasn't just falling down, it was getting lost. It was
some of the stuff you report in your book. We
knew and we were reporting on, like the multi jump
cuts in the videos of him, or it was obvious
he couldn't get through a one minute take. It was
clear to us that he was using teleprompter, and there
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was some reporting on that at the time, all of
which the White House was denying. Now the current white House,
I have some connections with the Joe Biden white House.
I had none, but you did. There was an attempted
cover up. It could only ever work if you allowed it,
if the press allowed it. Some of us right not to,
and some of us were complicit.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
The Biden white House did not like me.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Okay, this is I do not have great connections with
the Biden White House.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Well clearly, so you said you talked to over two
hundred sources for this boat and worked.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I know. That's the point is that they were not
being honest.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
That's let's play a couple of these because I think
what she said is important. He says, I didn't have
great contacts in the Biden White House. Well that's a
lie and also totally but he brags about interviewing two
hundred people for a tell all book, So you have
to have some connections to be able to get them
to talk to you. This also is great, And she
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goes off on him and says, one of us didn't
miss the biggest story of the century in presidential politics
Cut three.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
In the Street Journal Get It in June of twenty
twenty four, and Jake Tapper and CNN couldn't find sources
for this story. Then before he dropped out.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Annie Lynsky and Shavon Hughes did amazing job in their
reporting and they should be heralded.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
And I heralded them.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
I had them on my show right after the debate
to talk about their great reporting to the debate.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
But you did not put them on when they published
that story, which was before the debate.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Correct.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
I don't know what the booking situation was, but it
wasn't because I didn't want them.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
I'm sure I will. I'm sure I said that, let's
book that did they?
Speaker 5 (08:22):
You?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
You put on a Democrat and you allowed the Democrat
to rip on the report as a Ruper Murdoch sponsored
hit piece. It's just.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Going to do if we're going to if we're going
to do this, let's just stick to the facts here, Okay,
when there is a damnating report.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
That's what I've been doing all along.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
I'm one of them.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Didn't miss the biggest story of the century when it
comes to presidential politics, and one of us did.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I give her credit? This is what I wanted us
to do if we had Jake on instead. Megan did it.
So I one more, because I do think this matters, Buck,
I will give Jake Tapper some small measure of credit here.
He says he apologized to Laura Trump. We talked about
this on the show, because he ripped her and said, oh,
you're mocking his stutter and and derided the idea that
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she could argue he wasn't mentally or a horrible thing
to say. Yes, a horrible thing to say. I mean
to say, what what a kids would say? We will
play the full clip. I mean it was it was
gutter stuff that he pulled with Laura Trump, who you know,
you know her, Clay, I know her. It's a lovely person, Okay.
It is like you know, you'd want you'd want to
leave your kids with her at the barbecue, you know,
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for for the day and know that they have a
great time, Like she's a lovely person. Well, and what
it's representative of is I've seen less of this, but
I was concerned on Sunday when you say, hey, I
don't believe Joe Biden when he says he found out
he had cancer on Friday. That doesn't mean that you
want somebody to be unsuccessful in their fight against cancer, right,
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And so when you criticized Joe Biden, what they tried
to say was, oh, well, that's your being unfair. You're
going after him because of a stutter, which is designed
to limit any criticism by directly attacking you. That is
a clear attempt that they made to try to protect
Biden by attacking anybody or raising it as an issue
pure propaganda, which nobody believed. And here's why they Clay,
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No person would think, first of all, if you're making
fun of a stutter, you would make fun of a stutter.
And nobody in public life would think that making fun
of a stutter is something that you should do, because
people would say that's cruel, that's a jerk move. Yeah,
talking about a president having dementia who has the nuclear
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codes is fair gain. And by the way, this is
just a natural outgrowth of anything we don't like as racist,
anything we don't like as sexist. They don't actually address
the arguments. As soon as you go to a personal attack,
that is a sign that you have lost the argument.
But to Jake Tapper's minimal credit here he is. He
says he has apologized till Laura Trump cut four.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
You covered the Biden presidency aggressively throughout the four years,
and you didn't cover mental acuity hardly at all. I
mean time and time again when issues came up. You
seem to be running cover for the president. Interested Well,
I mean, we'll start with a Laura Trump issue that
you referred. Do you want to apologize to Laura Trump?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Now I've already apologized her. I called her months ago,
and what does she say.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
I mean, I don't want to disclose the contents of
a private conversation, but I thought the conversation went well,
and she said, she has said this publicly, so I
feel fine sharing it. She said that she would never
mock anybody's stutter.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
But I mean, you know, after we did.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
The research for this book and I realized how bad
his acuity issues were, I like, I mean, I called
Laura Trump and I said, you were you were right.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
She was totally right.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I just got such a lie. Just got to keep
repeating at Clay, this was not a mistake. It was
an op. Just for everything you hear from these Democrats
about this, it was not a mistake. It was an op.
Just have that running through your head. They knew what
they were doing. They knew all along, and we knew
all along, and we knew that they knew that we knew,
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and yet the game just kept on playing out like this,
Which is why, I mean, I see, here's the thing, Clay,
I correctly not to relitigate this. I correctly identified the
ruthlessness and the lying nature of the Democrat Party with
regard to Biden. In twenty twenty four, the only wrinkle
in my whole, the only wrinkle in my whole thesis
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all along, stretching back for years, the debate that was
the whole. That was when if they had gotten through
that debate, Biden was the candidate. Everybody should remember that
he had cancer. They knew, they hit it, and they
knew he had dementia, and they were hiding that all along,
and they would have never told these stories if he
had won the election. That's the other thing about this.
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The whole game was they have the cancer out, they
talk about his cancer. He steps down for that, not dementia,
and no one asked any questions, and Kamala starts giving
speeches about being the first black woman president. Totally, And
the only reason now that this book is coming out
is because Jake Tapper has no benefit whatsoever from having
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to play a Democrat propagandist, so he can effectively bury
Biden's political legacy and to a large extent, Kamalis too,
because I think the conversation is going to shift to
what Kamala, you argued for years that Biden was okay.
I think this is going to sabotage any future that
Kamala had, so they've taken her down. This takes her
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down to this is this is what's got along She's
I told you, remember this, I told all of you.
She's gonna end up provost at some U C. School,
you know, and they're just gonna She's gonna be kind
of sent sent to the archives, as we used to
say in the CIA, send to the archives. I think
think this is going to be tough, honestly for anybody
that was in the Biden cabinet when they try to
run in twenty eight. Maybe not in the Democrat primary,
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although I'm curious for the outsiders who weren't in the
Biden camp whether they can attack this and whether it
has residents, but certainly in the general election. Can you
imagine JD. Van's running against mayor Peet or somebody like
that and saying, dude, you lied to us for four
years about Biden's mental acuity. Why can we trust you
on anything? I think that will register really well with
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be negotiation around the around the edges. But just a
little bit of an update on that. Want to play
that flashback for those of you that might have missed it.
Here was Laura Trump, this is the President's daughter in
law back in October I believe it was of twenty
twenty on with Jake Tapper arguing that there was no
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way to defend Biden's physical and mental cognition and getting
lectured for not being nice enough to Biden because it
was just a stutter.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Listen, first and foremost, I had no idea that Joe
Biden ever suffered from a stutter. I think what we
see on stage with Joe Biden, Jake is very clearly
a cognitive decline.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
That's what I'm referring to. It makes me uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
That's so amazing.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
It's so amazing to me that.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
I'm trying to figure out.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
An answer cognitive decline.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Trying to tell me that what I was suggesting was
I think.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
That you were mocking his stutter. Yeah, I think you
were mocking his stutter. And I think you have absolutely
no standing to diagnose somebody's cognitive decline. I would think
that somebody in the Pump family would be more sensitive
to people who do do not have medical licenses diagnosing
politicians from afar.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Okay, so Tapper is now apologized for that. But hold on,
hold on, hold on, hold on. Just this is important, Clay,
because I know this guy. Okay, I've known him a
long time. I used to work at CNN. That is
Jake Tapper when he thinks he can get away with it.
That's actually Jake Tapper. So all this other stuff you're
seeing with Megan where he's like, oh, I missed it,
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Jake Tapper is I will hit you as a person
on TV with a line to hurt your reputation if
I can get away with it. That's actually who he is. Yes,
And also he now says, oh, Biden would have never
got elected if it weren't for COVID or people like
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and Buck. It is kind of fun to watch these
democrats come forward and just completely send up mock and
go after their own I mean, whether they were a
part of it or whether they weren't or they just
were kind of on the sidelines. It is a remarkable
intramural squabble that is going on right right now. And
(20:47):
it's not only does that do I think play the
Democrat Party does not have a political leader right now,
and it does not. And that's the first time in
my adult lifetime where we've gone through We went through
really uh you know, the Clinton era. Uh, and we
went through the Obama era, and then you know, there
have been some other people that have popped up here
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and there. For a hot second, maybe it was gonna
be John Carey. Isn't that astonishing? Maybe it was gonna
be John Edwards. Remember everybody, when John Edwards during the
campaign cheated on his wife, she was in remission from
her fatal cancer, as he said on television. Do you
remember that interview? That was one of the he wanted
everyone to be very clear. My wife that I cheated
on during the campaign and had a love child, she
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was in remission when the cheating happened. So this is
one of those points where I, you know, like a
lot of these guys I think, end up, as you
well know, bucks surrounded by advisors that are not very
smart and don't actually give them good advice. This is
where you need a common sense advisor. And when he
was saying, hey, I'm gonna admit that I cheated on
my wife, You're like, Okay, well that's gonna be tough.
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That's probably not gonna play that I play that well
in the in the general electorate. And then he says,
but I think it's important that everybody understand and that
she was in remission from her cancer at the time
that I cheated on her, So she wasn't actually getting chemotherapy.
First of all, I doubt that that's true. Second, the
argument that you're gonna make there somebody who's like the
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director of common sense has the flow throw a flag
and just say I think you need to own the
whole cheating thing and just say like, yeah, I was
a jerk. I mean, moro on, and don't try to
go into the mitigation of my wife's My wife's actually
tragically fatal cancer was in remission during that little period
of the cheating anyway. But John Edwards was a was
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a an incredible scumbag. If you actually looked into his background,
you're noticing a trend we're about to get into this
by the way. In fact, guys, get cut cut five ready.
I want to go to that before we get into
the Democrats. Get cut five ready, But before I says,
you'll notice a lot of these Democrats just really bad people.
I don't know, I don't know else this is. I
don't know how else to say it, you know, And
and there's some you know, you could argue, oh, well,
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you know, the Clintons are smart, but they're obviously horrible people,
both of them. Not good people, not ethical, not decent
at all at all. And I could go, we could
do a whole show just on how gross they are.
But also John Edwards not ethical, not a good person.
He was so adept as a ambulance chasing trial lawyer
at suing obstetricians in the state of South Carolina Clay
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that it became functionally impossible for a lot of women.
And this particularly ticks me off as somebody who just
had to go to the ultrasounds and my wife and
you know, you know, here in South Florida we had
very good care. What if I had to drive or
fly to go get you know, the ultrasound on because
nobody could afford insurance in my state. Because of the
slimy trial lawyer that was John Edwards in his era
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in South Carolina. John Edwards in South Carolina used to
in summations for juries, he would he would talk about
like he would say that he was speaking on behalf
of somebody's like you know, dead child or something like
he was summoning their spirit. I mean, a total snake
oil salesman. And he was close to being the Democrat,
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the Democrat, you know, president of the United States. And
by the way that they have been a better choice
than John Carrey, even with all of those things. Yeah, yes, possibly, possibly, No,
I mean John Kerry me the guys. The best thing
John carry ever did was figure out how to marry
women twice who had a lot of money made by
other men. I mean, that's the truth about John Kerrey.
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It's not an accident when you do it twice. Yeah,
that's a that's a really good point. I mean he
married a billionaire heiress for hines that I mean that
was like and after marrying another really wealthy and I
didn't even know the first oh yeah, oh yeah, John Kerry,
he does when it comes to marrying wealthy wealthy divorces
or widows John carried on't miss he's uh, he knew
exactly what he wanted anyway. Oh yeah, wrecked in a
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manner of Gengrish Khan. You know, speaking from the Senate.
Guy was a jerk. I bring it up because they're jerks.
And here's the thing, Clay, you and I was sad
here we talked. I mean, the Biden family. I really
believe this. I think Bill and Hillary probably sat around
at some point and Bill was like, I mean those
people are sketchy, those those bodis are dirtbags. I mean,
I don't even that's a really good Bill Clinton. You
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haven't done your Bill Clinton much on the show. Your
Boy's got Your boy's got game over here, Clay, you
know what I mean, Like, I just like to keep
you on your toes. I think the Clinton's thought that
the Bidens were scummy, which is a whole other And
Jake Tapper here from the interview with Megan, I want
to oh no, there's a different interview. Sorry, this was Katie.
I don't want to be mean. I don't want to
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be mean, but maybe I kind of do. Did you
know that she was still doing anything? I did not
know that she was still doing anything. Also may have
had a little bit of a crush on her back
in the Today Show.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Days she was cute.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
What oh yeah, what yeah, Katie Kirka was back in
the day, Clay good hat. I don't know what you
didn't think she was cute when in like nineteen nineteen
ninety three, No, Clay, I did agree that the Today
Show propaganda seeped into your brain. And she's a I mean,
it's not like I was in New York today, she
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was a New York City six. I put Katie kirk
that's just driving listening to w o R. No idea
what she's you know, she's just chilling.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Uh, fight out.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
We had no ideas. She is still doing media and
then Buck calls her a New York City six after
I say that she's good looking in nineteen ninety three, right,
you get me fired off because people in the media.
I was watching Sports Center with Oberman uh and Dan
Patrick before Oberman was crazy. Also, what's Oberman like in
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New York City four?
Speaker 3 (26:40):
On his.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
A three? Oberman is a crazy man now, Like he
even looks like he's in a straight jacket. Would he
make That's a good example of a guy. He's looking
more and more like Rosie O'Donnell if you actually put
them side by side. True story, Rosie O'Donnell and Oberman
are becoming like a sixty eight year old lesbian woman
and the same person like that keep over not a
(27:04):
good look. Not a good look for a man to
be told, hey, you kind of have You're a doppelganger
for a sixty eight year old lesbian. I think I
would retire if somebody said that about me. No shock,
Rosie apparently doesn't like your old lesbian doesn't like living
in Ireland as much as she thought she would when
she fled. She's give her at least the give her
the credit for Trump wins and she actually fled the country. Apparently,
(27:26):
I do give a small measure of credence if you
say I'm going to leave the country, if if if
a candidate wins and then you stay. It's hard for
me to respect your political opinion. I still don't respect
it much, but at least you stood behind it and
moved to Ireland. So so back to our thesis of
democrats are Democrat leadership are scumbags And truly, in a way,
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I will say this, I think on a well you know,
I think the I think the Bidens make the Clintons
look JV when it comes to scumminess. I think that's
if you take the totality of all of them, right,
I think Bill as an individual worse than any of
the Bidens. But if you add the whole Biden family,
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like I don't, I don't think you know, Chelsea has
been involved in anything sketchy. You know, she's married. I
also think Bill and Hillary Clinton are especially Bill, but
Hillary too are a different intellectual caliber than Joe and Jill. Right, Like, no,
no question that that is true. There there's like there's
a fifteen to twenty IQ point gap between the Clintons
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and the Bidens. And I would argue, by the way,
I think the Obamas, both of the Obamas are substantially
smarter than both of the Bidens. I think I think
that's right, clearly. Know for sure, I'm not sure about Michelle.
Barack is way smarter than than Joe Biden was. But
I do think you know, we Trump was calling them
the Biden crime family for years, okay for years, and
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the media pretended like this was just going in one
ear and out the other. The president's son was the
point man and the bagman for an international bribery ring. Okay,
that's what was going on, And people go, oh, but
what about Trump and the emoluments. Plus Trump's already a billionaire.
These people are idiots. No one's buying Trump off because
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they're you know, if someone in some country didn't approve
his building, he'd build a building somewhere else. And he
doesn't even need the money. The whole thing is absurd.
And yet Jake Tapper, finally, after years of Trump saying
the Biden crime family, I think Jake Tapper should have
to call them the Biden crime family. This has cut
five from the apparently still doing interviews Katie Kirk interview
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play it.
Speaker 7 (29:40):
How big a factor was the Hunter stuff?
Speaker 3 (29:42):
I think it was considerable.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
I think Hunter was driving the decision making for the
family in a way that people he was almost like
a chief of staff of the family.
Speaker 7 (29:51):
Does that strike you as pretty bizarre?
Speaker 4 (29:53):
It's bizarre because I think he is provably, demonstrably unethical, sleazy,
and prone to horrible decisions.
Speaker 7 (30:02):
I mean, tell me how you really feel well, I mean,
I just just look at the record.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
I mean, after his brother died, he cheated on his
wife with his brother's widow and then got her addicted
to Kraack. That's just one thing I could say. I
mean it there. I don't have a lot of personal
regard for him. The idea of letting him drive the
family car, as it were, is just really, really questionable.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
So everything that he said about Hunter Biden, We've been
saying for years on this program, and they show up
and act as if this is a major uncovered aspect.
Here's something I want you to think about as we
go to break buck And this is also true for
all of you out there. Are there people who are
hearing what Jake Tapper is saying and in disbelief that
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all of this happened. I mean this honestly. Like pretend
that you are super busy in your day to day life,
and you trust the New York Time to keep you updated.
You trust MSNBC. You flip it on when you have
breakfast because you have been a card carrying left wing
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democrat for some time, you put on Jake Tapper. Are
any of those people having moments of in just sort
of what's the word that I'm thinking of here? Are
they wondering how in the world did all of this
(31:30):
happen and I didn't know. And oh, by the way,
there are lots of other people, for instance, everyone listening
to this program who knew all of this for years.
In other words, are they having that moment of realization?
Are there millions of people out there who are suddenly
picking up the Washington Post we'll talk about their editorial
(31:51):
or reading this Jake Tapper book and they're like wow,
and do they have the next step of boy, I
was lied to. I wonder why all those people that
I look down on. The Trump voter drive in a truck,
the Trump voter who's working in a grocery store aisle
right now stocking while they're listening to us on their break.
(32:12):
The person who is out there at Walmart or a
gas station, good, normal, decent, regular people who knew all
of this. Do those people who think of themselves as
so much smarter than everyone else, do they have a
moment of self reflection and realization? In all honesty? Imagine
MSNBC viewing New York Times reading you're busy in life,
(32:36):
Do you reconsider who you use and who you trust
to keep you informed? Only twenty three percent of people
are still getting COVID shots. Do the other seventy seven
percent of people say, hey, you know, maybe those people
who were skeptical of the COVID shot, do they have
that moment of realization? How are they thinking today? What
are they thinking as all of this is coming out?
(32:59):
I do want I do try to put myself in
their shoes and think, what if I was just a
super busy moron and I had trusted all these legacy
media outlets. Do I distrust them?
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Now?
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Can I put out a call on this? Actually, I'm
just wondering, yeah, because we have some Democrats who listen,
and I'm just you know, and maybe it's the Democrats
because they they they're you know, ardently pro choice or
there's some issue that makes them. But I'm as curious
to any of our Democrats listening. Did you know all
along that they were lying to you? And you know,
but you still vote the way that you do? If
we can get a call or an email on that,
I know it's kind of specific, but I'm curious, Like,
(33:33):
do the people watching Jake on CNN at night when
he was doing it, They're like, no, I get it.
I mean he's got to do this because anything to
stop Trump? You know? Was that? Was that really what
the audience was thinking. I don't know if any of
you listening have that. I'm curious, and and by the way,
if you have changed your viewing or listening habits. I
bet there's some of you who came in. I know,
starting in COVID, we've been doing this for four years.
(33:56):
How did you find us? Some of you have been
listening to Rush since nineteen ninety three, or you know,
you've been here for thirty some odd years. But those
of you who are newer, maybe you used to watch
CNN and all the time, maybe used to watch the
MSNBC's you subscribe to the New York Times, Washington Post.
I mean I read everything that they put out there.
I knew that they were wrong on all of this,
But to suddenly for them to argue, hey, yeah, we
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it's also an insult to the audience because they led
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Speaker 6 (36:28):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
He is a lawyer this they do exist who has
at least remained somewhat consistent in his principles over time
when it comes to defending the First Amendment. Uh, you know,
you're the last Samurai the movie, the last Samurai. He
may be the last like you know, civil civil rights advocate.
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you know, which is what you actually should want lawyers
to be as committed to principle overprofit. And Uh, we're
gonna talk with Alan Dershowitz. But you and I want
to talk with Alan Dershowitz, among other things, about the
Ditty trial that's currently underway. I think people might be
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super close. I don't do true crime stuff in that
much detail, or I don't follow it that closely, but
I do know kind of how some of these things
can go. And uh, I'm not nearly as convinced. I'll
tell you this play. I'm not nearly as convinced as
I think a lot of people that did. He is
legally speaking finished. I think professionally and socially, he's a
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going away on the stuff they've they've brought against him.
We'll talk about that with Dershowitz and more will come
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