May 2, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show kicks off with a lively discussion on several hot-button issues. The hosts delve into Donald Trump's Alabama commencement address, highlighting his introduction by Nick Saban and the significant topics Trump covered, including his executive order to end NPR funding. This move sparks a debate on the role of taxpayer dollars in supporting media entities, with Clay and Buck criticizing NPR's left-wing bias and discussing the implications of Trump's decision.
The conversation shifts to Kilmar Abrego Garcia, a Democrat from Maryland, whose controversial actions, including domestic violence and human trafficking, are exposed. The hosts express their disbelief at the Democrats' choice of Garcia as a representative against Trump's deportation policies, emphasizing the incompetence in such decisions.
Buck Sexton praises President Trump for his decisive action against NPR funding, arguing that all media should compete fairly in the marketplace without government support. They play several clips of NPR's leader, Katherine Maher, discussing the challenges posed by the First Amendment and her approach to disinformation, which further fuels the hosts' criticism of NPR's operations.
The show also touches on Trump's stance on women's sports, with Trump asserting that men should not compete in women's sports, a statement that garners significant applause from the University of Alabama graduates. This leads to a broader discussion on the cultural shift in education, with Clay and Buck comparing the value of state schools versus elite northeastern institutions, and the changing perceptions of higher education.
Additionally, the hosts discuss the job market, noting the addition of 177,000 jobs in April and a 4.2% unemployment rate, which Clay attributes to positive market trends. They encourage listeners to stay calm and invest for the long term, highlighting the recent surge in stock prices.
The hour concludes with a humorous debate on whether a hot girlfriend should help her boyfriend move, featuring an opinion from Clay and Buck Podcast Network host, Karol Markowitz. This light-hearted segment adds a fun twist to the show's otherwise serious topics.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, Friday edition
of the program. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.
Twelve hours up, three more to go here on the weekend.
We hope to send you into the weekend and a
good mood. Lots to dive into Donald Trump at Alabama
commencement address. Heck of an introduction from Nick Saban. We
will discuss NPR funding pulled. We're going to dive into that.
(00:25):
And kilmar Abrao Garcia, democrats favorite Maryland dad turns out
his wife is on audio begging for help because he
has been beating her, and he is on video engaged
in human trafficking being pulled over in my home state
(00:46):
of Tennessee. This guy is maybe, as we have said
for some time, but I think even Democrats are like
oh man, even for Democrats, stupidity choosing an El Salvadoran
gang beating wife beating, human trafficking illegal immigrant to be
the front facing opposition to Trump's deportation policies in America
(01:09):
is next level in competence. We will discuss all that
and more, But Buck, I wanted to start. I got
to give President Trump a tremendous amount of credit because
he is actually doing what has been discussed for decades
as long as I can remember, you correct me if
(01:30):
I'm wrong. You've been in the conservative side of media
for longer than I have. But as long as I've
been doing media, Republicans have been teeing off at NPR
and saying, why do our tax dollars go to support
left wing propaganda in any way? And nothing ever happens. Well,
last night Trump decided to finally sign a executive order
(01:54):
that will end all of the money that NPR gets.
And I think this is pretty substantial, and I want
to play several different aspects of this, but I think
you'll sign off off the top here on this buck.
Everyone should have to compete in the marketplace. Our show
competes directly within PR, probably in hundreds of markets across
(02:17):
the country.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
The federal government is not giving us millions of dollars
to aid in our business in any way. We've got
to go out and our company has to sell ads.
We have to compete for ratings in five hundred I
think it's fifty five different markets in all fifty states
across the country, and we don't get any built in advantage,
and that's how it should be. Everyone in media should compete,
(02:42):
and the shows that are the most popular should have
the most success. I've never understood why the government should
be giving money to NPR for any reason, regardless of
what their politics were, But given how left wing their
politics are, the idea that publicans basically should be funding
opposition research with taxpayer dollars is crazy and I wanted
(03:07):
to play several different cuts of the crazy leader of NPR.
The crew did a good job pulling all of this. First,
she says the number one challenge that she faces buck
this is Catherine Mayer says the number one challenge she
faces is the First Amendment. This is not an ideal
(03:28):
thing for someone in media to be saying. This is
the head of NPR, cut eleven back in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
The number one challenge here that we see is, of course,
the First Amendment in the United States is a fairly
robust protection of rights. And that is a protection of
rights both for platforms, which I actually think is very
important that platforms have those rights to be able to
regulate what kind of content they want on their sites,
but it also means that it is a little bit
(03:55):
tricky to really address some of the real challenges of
where does bad information come from and sort of the
influenced peddlers who have made a real market economy around it.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Okay, so the first amendment is quote the number one
challenge that she faces. Here is another cut. This is
from June twenty second, twenty twenty one as well. At
this time she was the CEO of basically Wikipedia, I
believe correct, all of the different Wikipedia related entities. And
have I told you this, Buck, I don't know if
(04:25):
you've ever gone into your Wikipedia page. Lara, my wife
went into my Wikipedia page and tried to edit it
because she was upset at there being a bunch of
things that she knew to be inaccurate having been married
to me for twenty one years. She tried to make
edits to my Wikipedia page and they were rejected because
they said that she did not have adequate knowledge to
(04:46):
be able to change the Wikipedia page. And I think,
did they really erase that you are universally considered the handsomest.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Sports talk radio host out there? Did they really get
rid of that claim?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Let me tell you something, Buck, I'm not sure that
Laura's adjustments on my Wikipedia page would have actually even
been very positive, but they would have been accurate, because
I think she has a pretty good sense of the
last twenty years or so of my career. But I
did think that was very funny because somehow she ended
up on the page, and she was telling me this
a while back. She said, I want to you know,
(05:18):
there's lots of stuff that's totally wrong on there, and
she was like, and I went in and tried to
fix it, and they told me that the editor you know,
that my edits weren't allowed to be accepted because I
didn't have the requisite Wikipedia Street cred or whatever to
be considered an expert on this. So I did think
that was very funny. But here she is saying that
she took a very active information approach to disinformation and
(05:43):
wanted to make sure of all of her censorship moves. Again,
cut Tin, we took.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
A very active approach to disinformation and disinformation coming into
the lot, not just the last selection, but also looking
at how we supported our editing community in an unprecedented
moment where we were not only dealing with the global pandemic,
we were dealing with a novel virus which is by
definition means we knew nothing about it in real time
and we're trying to figure it out as the pandemic
(06:09):
went along. And so we really set up in response
to both the pandemic but also in response to the
upcoming US election and as a model for future elections
outside of the US, including a number that are happening
this year. The model was around, how do we create
sort of a clearing house of information that brings the
institution of the Wikimedia Foundation with the editing community in
(06:31):
order to be able to identify threats early on through
conversations with government of course, as well as other platform operators,
to understand sort of what the landscape looks like.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Okay, so that continues, and then I want to play
one more cut just to kind of let us everybody
out there understand because a lot of people may not
pay attention to NPR. And I do think this is significant.
She says, truth is a distraction from finding consensus.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
This is nine.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
One of the most significant differences critical from moving from
polarization to productivity is that the wikipedians who write these
articles aren't actually focused on finding the truth. They're working
for something that's a little bit more attainable, which is
the best of what we can know right now, and
after seven years there, I actually believe that they're onto
something that for our most tricky disagreements, seeking the truth
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and seeking to convince others of the truth isn't necessarily
the best place to start. In fact, I think our
reverence for the truth might become might have become a
bit of a distraction that is preventing us from finding
consensus and getting important things done.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Buck, what do you think this NPR CEO is awful?
They just sent us the links of all the stories
which are clearly biased. Trump is finally doing the right
thing here, right, and it's taken decades for it to happen. Yeah,
I mean, Clay, I don't think it really is going
to change very much. I mean, one, this woman is
no longer the CEO. To the funding level that they
(08:00):
get from the government is not huge.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I don't even know what it is.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
But I do think it's funny that they complain about
the cut to the funding level. Right, They'll say in
the same breath, Well, most of the funding for NPR
and PBS doesn't actually come from the government. Okay, Well,
then why do you get it at all. So there's
a principle that's at stake here of why would any
media entity that is it's clearly ideological start with that,
(08:26):
But why would it get state funds or government funds.
It makes no sense. There's no argument for it to continue,
So why should it continue. The only argument is that
people on the left like it and they want to
have they want to have a rigged game or rigged system.
But yeah, this woman, these soundbites, Just to be clear,
these were older, and she was pretty unanimously voted off
(08:48):
the island of more senior media executive jobs because saying
that the First Amendment is an impediment to your information operation,
to the SIOP that you're running, is not something that
is generally going to be well received by a majority
of the American public.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I would hope, I would think.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
But yeah, Trump says that he's pulling this, I'm not
sure that he'll be able to. This is the problem
we keep running into once again, congressionally authorized funding versus
executive branch administering of different pools of cash that have
gone to all these different agencies. So we'll see they're
challenging this play obviously right away and they're saying that
(09:27):
their money comes from Congress, not from the president. YadA YadA.
But it's the right move, it's the right thing to do.
I'm glad that he's doing it. It makes the libs cry,
which is always fun. That woman is the president CEO
of NPR. At the time, she was head of Wikipedia.
So Catherine Mayer that all that audio is, Oh, yes,
she's still the pro My gosh, I'm sorry. I thought
(09:49):
she got I thought she got fired.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
She got elevated to that job in March of twenty
twenty four, which was when all this audio from Wikipedia.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
W I'm sorry I sent in that.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
I sent in the clip of her this morning, the
old clipper her. I thought she had been I thought
she had been like reassigned out of the role. I
didn't realize she she is.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
She is the president and CEO of NPR all that
and now she was not at the time that we
played that audio. She was at Wikipedia. But she got
elevated after that too, head of INPR. That is wild
are raising And I saw your tweet about this, and
I think we should hammer this home. If it is
truly not a significant form of revenue for them taxpayer dollars.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Why do they fight so hard to keep it? To
your points?
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I mean, if we lost two percent of the revenue
on this show because somebody was affiliated with the show
that shouldn't have been, and you and I came on
and we were beating the drums and screaming about how
we needed to keep the two percent, I think a
lot of you would say this is very strange. The
what's interesting, Buck, is the way that it is crafted
(10:58):
direct in PR money is not very substantial, but I
think they're backdoring substantial dollars through local NPR affiliates such
that their budget would be severely constrained without this money,
because otherwise, why are they.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Squealing it care so much? Right?
Speaker 4 (11:16):
And why give the right a talking point that is correct.
It's not just something we say, it's the truth, which
is that they shouldn't be getting this money because if
they are media entities that can compete in a fair marketplace,
there's no reason for this. That's stunning. That woman, I
remember replying those clips a while ago. I'm actually in shock.
I don't know why. I thought that they had moved
her somewhere else, So thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I mean what you would think that given that she
is politically radioactive and they are now in the Trump era,
that maybe it would make sense to have a new
president and CEO. But no, she is still there and
she is still taking our taxpayer dollars, and they are
suing along with Corporation of Public Broadcasting to say that
(11:56):
they must have all these dollars and that Trump does
not have the authority to resind them in any way.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Well, I also think that they.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
There's clear I think you're right that there's more money
than they there's more ways that they get money from
the public than they let on, because otherwise, why have
this vulnerability out there that allows us to constantly bash them?
Although I think we've been bashing them for so long
without consequence that maybe they don't care at some level.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
But I think that.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
It's gonna be interesting to see how this actually goes.
They like the idea of government funding something like NPR.
They want to keep this, I think at some level
because they want the precedent to be there that this
is something the government does. The government has a role
in information operations.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Which is what this is.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
NPR is an information operation, you know, and you can
tell you can take that in a very kind of
bland where you can take into the more military info
ops or psyops sense. I mean, they are running political
programming to the American people under the guise of it
being a free and form a free and fair marketplace
of ideas based entity, and it clearly is a rigged system.
(13:05):
I mean, and they don't want it to be called
the rig system anymore, then stop rigging the system.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
And they're competing directly with us, which is why I mean,
I think on a you know, sort of larger just
standing on precedent, standing on principal perspective, it makes sense.
But also if you're listening to this program, the government's
not giving us tens of millions of dollars, and so
if that's not occurring here, we should have an open
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Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Appreciate all of you hanging
out with us. We are rolling through the Friday edition
of the program down in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, where they used
to be good at football. I'm old enough Buck to
remember when Alabama was actually good at football. Feels like
not that long ago. Nick Saban introduced Donald Trump for
(19:17):
the commencement address at the University of Alabama. And I
don't know if you've heard this story yet, Buck, I've
not heard this story from Nick Saban. He said in
twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen, when they won national championships,
they went to visit the White House and Trump invited
them into the Oval Office and he took several team
captains in with him. And this is a great story
(19:39):
about Trump. One point zero and what was on the
resolute desk Listen to cut six.
Speaker 7 (19:45):
He's the first president that invited us to come in
the over office. So I take the three captains in
the over office and President's really nice to everybody, and
he's got this very big, good looking auspicious box on
his desk that has a red button on top. And
one of the players said, is that what you launt
(20:07):
some missiles with? And he said, well, push it and
find out. Player said, no, I don't want to do that.
He said, oh, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, push it.
See see what happens.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Find out.
Speaker 7 (20:21):
So Rashaun Evans finally got the guts up, went over,
pushed the red button. Some lady came in with a
coke on a tray.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Do you remember that, you may have said, I don't
remember seeing it when I was in the Oval office.
But there were reports that Trump had just a diet
coke button and he would push it, and whenever he
pushed it, somebody would show up with the diet coke,
which is very, very funny. I haven't heard Nick Saban
tell that story. And then listen to this reaction buck
during the commencement address, Trump says, Hey, as long as
(20:51):
I'm president, no men are going to play women's sports.
And listen to the soon to be University of Alabama
graduates go crazy.
Speaker 8 (20:58):
I love sports.
Speaker 9 (20:59):
I think I should have come here. I think I
should have come here. Congratulations as well to the women's
track and field team for winning two SEC titles this year.
That's something. As long and as long as I'm president,
we will always protect women's sports.
Speaker 10 (21:17):
Men will not play in women's sports.
Speaker 9 (21:29):
Nowhere they say that it's an eighty twenty issue. No,
it's a ninety seven to three issue.
Speaker 8 (21:37):
I think.
Speaker 9 (21:39):
No, men will not be playing in women's sports. Well,
already I said that, and I classified it with a
very powerful executive order, as you know.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Okay, so Buck. He also said something that I think
is interesting. And as a New Yorker from the Northeast
who now has married into an SEC family thanks to
your lovely wife, Carrie, he said, and Trump we should
mention today, by the way, said that he's going to
take away Harvard's nonprofit status based on some of their
(22:10):
political activities. But he said something that I think is
becoming very true. And he told the kids at Alabama this.
He said, it's not the case anymore that even necessarily
you want to be trying to go to a quote
unquote elite Northeastern school, the ivy leagues, that sort of universe,
which used to be an incredible aspiration, that you want
(22:32):
to go to a school like Alabama, Because he thinks
the Crimson Tide can outperform the Harvard Crimson And I'm
paraphrasing him there a bit, but that's basically what he said.
I'm curious how you would analyze this now that you
live in Florida. And Trump also said there, hey, I
should have come to the University of Alabama. I think
he went to Ivy League institutions in the Northeast. The
(22:52):
culture shift in education, I think is really one of
the most profound that I have seen over the last generation.
I mean, I can just speak to what it was
like when I growing up in New York City and
going to you guys. I went to Regis, which is
a very interesting place because I think it's still the
only tuition free private high school in the country.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
So it is entirely private. It is funded by.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Alumni and by an initial donation from an anonymous family.
And the whole game was you try to get into
the college that is essentially the highest ranked or gives
you the most money. That was the consideration for a
lot of my classmates, because they wanted Some kids got
full rides. I had a friend, and I'm going to
(23:38):
tell you this, I had a friend who turned down
the Jefferson scholar scholarship at UVA to go.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
And take out loans at Harvard.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
This was many years ago, and I remember even at
that time thinking free UVA for four years. Better idea
that going to Harvard and taking out loans. And that
was twenty, you know, thirty years ago now, so I
thought that was nuts. But I went to GW for
the scholarship. I wouldn't have gone if they hadn't given
me a scholarship. I mean to that to that point.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
But you know, it used to be I think much
more people. Again, I'm speaking from a you know, New
York City kid perspective, but I'm sure this was replicated.
It looked a lot of my classmates in college were
from you know, good public schools in New Jersey and
the good public schools in Massachusetts, and you know that
we had we had a lot of that going on, right,
and a lot of kids from California. It's particularly Los
(24:30):
Angeles in my school. But the whole point was you
tried to get into the highest ranked school you could,
you know, and your college admissions conversation was okay on
the US News and World Report rankings, Where do we
think we have a realistic shot. Where do we think
that we have a safety school. I mean, it was
all this big game of trying to get into the
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best school, the highest ranked school. And I just think
that that's changed a lot. And I know it's changed
a lot because when I talked to different family who
have kids. You know, we're very close to a couple
of families who live our neighbors here who've got you know,
just like same age as your boys, Clay. You know,
they've got like, you know, a fifteen year old, a
seventeen year old. And I talked to the parents, and
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the kids are thinking about things like where do I
want to go to school for four years? What programs
do I want to be enrolled in? And I think
that there's a lot of reasons for this. I'd be
curious to know what some of the parents in the
audience think, or you know, recent parents people have had
kids go through the system college recently. Because Clay, for
one thing, these schools are not what they promised to be,
(25:34):
which is elite incubators of the top intellectual talent that
will therefore translate into you having a great, a great career. Right,
That's actually not how it works anymore.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I think part of it is people have realized a
lot of these schools take plenty of people who really
aren't cognitively that impressive for different reasons, and so that
waters down the brand of Oh, you must be so
small because you went It's just not true. I know
dumbasses who went to Harvard, and.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
I really mean that they had either really rich parents
where they were a really special profile or demographic applying.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
You know, they checked all the right boxes.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
And I think people also are just realizing that there
are more places with remote work and the way the
economy is trending, there are more places where you can
be and have a better life, a better lifestyle, and
raise a family than just the most expensive metros in
the country.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
That's I know that's a lot, but I really thought
about this stuff.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
No, I mean, I think about it now because I'm
taking my junior in high school and we're going on
these campus visits, and so much I think of college
is not necessarily just classroom. I actually think that's a
small part of it. It's what you learn from the
people around you. My best friends today are people typically
(26:53):
that I went to law school with at Vanderbilt back
in the day.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
When we're twenty two to twenty three years old.
Speaker 6 (26:59):
And.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
The value of that is just being around smart people.
And I mentioned that I went to GW. I still
have a lot of good friends from college as well.
We were in the honors program at GW. They gave
us scholarships, these honor programs, like you mentioned the Jefferson
scholar thing at UVA. Every state school in America now
has an honors program that, if you are able to
(27:23):
get into, is IVY League elite without all of the
crazy left wing shenanigans. So a lot of these schools, man,
I gotta tell you. You get into the University of
Florida now, and it pains me to say it, as
a University of Tennessee fan. You get into the University
of Georgia, Alabama where we just played it from the
(27:44):
University of Tennessee, and you are in an honors part
of that university. I think that education is probably I
can't believe I'm saying this. I think that education is
better now than what you would get in the IVY
League because I think you get a wider variety of
perspectives at a state school. I think you're way less
likely to feel like you're being incubated in some far
(28:05):
left wing universe. And I've visited some of these schools
back and I don't want to call them out because
my kids are in the middle of applying. The first
thing they say is an apology to Native Americans. When
you begin campus tool, text me about that. That was hilarious.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
They actually they're doing Native American land apologies on college.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Elite schools, elite campuses. I know my teenager looked at me.
I thought we were like getting SNL pranked. The way
that you would start at one of these elite colleges
is not by saying, hey, we're happy to have you here. Hey,
let's talk about this being one of the greatest schools
in the country. It's before we tell you anything else,
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we would like to apologize to the Native Americans and
acknowledge that our university is now located on what used
to be Native American lands. And I really I looked around.
That didn't happen when I visited twenty years ago. I
felt like I was being pranked. I thought like somebody
was going to pop out with a camera. That's how
you begin the process of selling me on wanting to
(29:09):
pay one hundred thousand dollars intuition basically, and and room
cost for my kids. I every parent who's around our
age has to be sitting there thinking, and certainly older parents.
There's no way this is the real world. Surely some
of these things are going to get dialed back, but
(29:30):
for that to be the front facing idea that you're
putting out there about your university makes me not want
my kid to even apply at schools like those.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Yes, so, but I think this is a good thing
because also there's people should think differently about the school
they go to and and this idea that it's a
ticket to As you know, Clay, Also in the professional world,
people tend to care a lot more about where you
went to grad school in terms of its eliteness. Like
(29:59):
you went to built law school. Nobody even really cares
where you went to undergrad if you went to a
top twenty law school like Vanderbilt is right, so that's
something that gets far more attention. Like I looked at
I was going to go to Columbia Business School, right,
I was gonna get my Columbia MBA. That would be
even more But put all that stuff aside, look at
look at a lot of the people. Look at a
(30:20):
lot of the most successful people in America right now,
and I know just I don't mean the richest, although
that often is goes hand in hand, but the people
who are doing the coolest and most amazing stuff, a
lot of them went to either a school that nobody
would ever be quote impressed by, or didn't finish school
or didn't go out. I'm talking about college, not you know,
graduate high school obviously, but you know, I think that
(30:41):
the the the flow of information that people have access
to now as well. You can take entire classes on
the classics from Yale University professors online. Now, I mean,
and that's just one example. There's all over the place.
So what what really, what information advantage do you have
of going to one of these places that cost eighty
thousand dollars a year and you're going to be cold
(31:03):
all the time and everybody drinks too much like AMers.
You know, this is a it's a change, I think
in the approach to what people think. And I even
talked about how we didn't even have sororities at my school.
I feel to this day like something was stolen from me.
No sororities.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
You had never been to a college football game. I'm
telling you that a lot of these kids are seeing
what it's like on an SEC football Saturday, and they're saying,
why in the world would I not do this eight
saturdays a year. We did have Women and Gender Studies
as a major, however, so no sororities at Amherst. But WAGS,
(31:39):
which is what they called it was something you could
major in for four years. I like the other kind
of WAGS better, which came out of Britain wives and
girlfriends of soccer stars. You know that's kind of the Let.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Me tell you, nobody who was majoring in WAGS was
ever going to want to be in a sorority.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
I can tell you that.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Or or date a successful athlete. I don't think they're
going to be on that flows out. Not a lot
of that going on.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Nose rings though, a lot of nose rings, So if
you're interested in that, WAGS was a great place you
could find out where the best nose ring dealers were.
All right, we'll take some of your calls here. Also,
we got some friends who weighed in on the moving
Should your hot girlfriend help you move controversy it's Friday.
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All right, welcome back into Clay En Bucks, Steven Miller,
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that because there's an opening of the National Security Advisor,
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Miller here coming up in a few minutes. Yesterday some controversy.
We had a call or actually was a talkback and
(34:28):
he and he said that he broke up with his
hot too hot for him, he said, like too hot
to be dating him.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
But you know, sometimes we get lucky in life.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
All guys can hope my wife is too hot for me,
but she married me, so I'm I'm pleased, you know,
I'll take it.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
But too hot for him didn't help him move. He
broke up with her. I got.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
I got Carol Markowitz and Lisa Booth Clay fired up
about this member. They're on the Klay and Buck podcast networks.
To go subscribe they both do. Lisa Booth Carol Markuitz
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in on should your hot girlfriend help you move controversy.
(35:11):
We'll start with Carol Markowitz hit. It starts with.
Speaker 8 (35:15):
Carol Markowitz from The Carol Markowitz Show and normally so
my first instinct is that no girlfriend, hot or not,
should help you move. It's just not our department. I'm
big on heteronormative division of labor. Help you decorate when
you move in sure, even help you unpack. Okay, but Carrie,
(35:37):
heavy boxes. That's what your guy friends are for. Having
said that, when you're in your twenties, anything goes. I
definitely helped boyfriends move at that age. But if you
are looking for that more traditional setup as you get older,
where men do the heavy, yucky stuff and kill bugs
along the way while women care for the home, cook
(36:00):
take care of the children, and generally coordinate life, then
you start that kind of thing early on, and the
hot girlfriend did nothing wrong.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Carol Waite in what do you think? I think Carol
should read every book. I don't know that anybody has
a better voice than Carol. I mean, I know MPR
is getting unfunded, but they should actually have Carol doing
their updates at the end of every hour because she
has perfect voice.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
I will hear from others.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Look, I think that if you need your girlfriend to
help you carry a heavy box, your masculinity is in question.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
You were probably a white guy for Kamala.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Yes, you were probably a white dude for Harris if
you need help carrying boxes by your girlfriend because she
may be stronger than you and have a bigger penis.
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, Friday edition
of the program. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.
Twelve hours up, three more to go here on the weekend.
We hope to send you into the weekend and a
good mood. Lots to dive into Donald Trump at Alabama
commencement address. Heck of an introduction from Nick Saban. We
will discuss NPR funding pulled. We're going to dive into that.
(00:25):
And kilmar Abrao Garcia, democrats favorite Maryland dad turns out
his wife is on audio begging for help because he
has been beating her, and he is on video engaged
in human trafficking being pulled over in my home state
(00:46):
of Tennessee. This guy is maybe, as we have said
for some time, but I think even Democrats are like
oh man, even for Democrats, stupidity choosing an El Salvadoran
gang beating wife beating, human trafficking illegal immigrant to be
the front facing opposition to Trump's deportation policies in America
(01:09):
is next level in competence. We will discuss all that
and more, But Buck, I wanted to start. I got
to give President Trump a tremendous amount of credit because
he is actually doing what has been discussed for decades
as long as I can remember, you correct me if
(01:30):
I'm wrong. You've been in the conservative side of media
for longer than I have. But as long as I've
been doing media, Republicans have been teeing off at NPR
and saying, why do our tax dollars go to support
left wing propaganda in any way? And nothing ever happens. Well,
last night Trump decided to finally sign a executive order
(01:54):
that will end all of the money that NPR gets.
And I think this is pretty substantial, and I want
to play several different aspects of this, but I think
you'll sign off off the top here on this buck.
Everyone should have to compete in the marketplace. Our show
competes directly within PR, probably in hundreds of markets across
(02:17):
the country.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
The federal government is not giving us millions of dollars
to aid in our business in any way. We've got
to go out and our company has to sell ads.
We have to compete for ratings in five hundred I
think it's fifty five different markets in all fifty states
across the country, and we don't get any built in advantage,
and that's how it should be. Everyone in media should compete,
(02:42):
and the shows that are the most popular should have
the most success. I've never understood why the government should
be giving money to NPR for any reason, regardless of
what their politics were, But given how left wing their
politics are, the idea that publicans basically should be funding
opposition research with taxpayer dollars is crazy and I wanted
(03:07):
to play several different cuts of the crazy leader of NPR.
The crew did a good job pulling all of this. First,
she says the number one challenge that she faces buck
this is Catherine Mayer says the number one challenge she
faces is the First Amendment. This is not an ideal
(03:28):
thing for someone in media to be saying. This is
the head of NPR, cut eleven back in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
The number one challenge here that we see is, of course,
the First Amendment in the United States is a fairly
robust protection of rights. And that is a protection of
rights both for platforms, which I actually think is very
important that platforms have those rights to be able to
regulate what kind of content they want on their sites,
but it also means that it is a little bit
(03:55):
tricky to really address some of the real challenges of
where does bad information come from and sort of the
influenced peddlers who have made a real market economy around it.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Okay, so the first amendment is quote the number one
challenge that she faces. Here is another cut. This is
from June twenty second, twenty twenty one as well. At
this time she was the CEO of basically Wikipedia, I
believe correct, all of the different Wikipedia related entities. And
have I told you this, Buck, I don't know if
(04:25):
you've ever gone into your Wikipedia page. Lara, my wife
went into my Wikipedia page and tried to edit it
because she was upset at there being a bunch of
things that she knew to be inaccurate having been married
to me for twenty one years. She tried to make
edits to my Wikipedia page and they were rejected because
they said that she did not have adequate knowledge to
(04:46):
be able to change the Wikipedia page. And I think,
did they really erase that you are universally considered the handsomest.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Sports talk radio host out there? Did they really get
rid of that claim?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Let me tell you something, Buck, I'm not sure that
Laura's adjustments on my Wikipedia page would have actually even
been very positive, but they would have been accurate, because
I think she has a pretty good sense of the
last twenty years or so of my career. But I
did think that was very funny because somehow she ended
up on the page, and she was telling me this
a while back. She said, I want to you know,
(05:18):
there's lots of stuff that's totally wrong on there, and
she was like, and I went in and tried to
fix it, and they told me that the editor you know,
that my edits weren't allowed to be accepted because I
didn't have the requisite Wikipedia Street cred or whatever to
be considered an expert on this. So I did think
that was very funny. But here she is saying that
she took a very active information approach to disinformation and
(05:43):
wanted to make sure of all of her censorship moves. Again,
cut Tin, we took.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
A very active approach to disinformation and disinformation coming into
the lot, not just the last selection, but also looking
at how we supported our editing community in an unprecedented
moment where we were not only dealing with the global pandemic,
we were dealing with a novel virus which is by
definition means we knew nothing about it in real time
and we're trying to figure it out as the pandemic
(06:09):
went along. And so we really set up in response
to both the pandemic but also in response to the
upcoming US election and as a model for future elections
outside of the US, including a number that are happening
this year. The model was around, how do we create
sort of a clearing house of information that brings the
institution of the Wikimedia Foundation with the editing community in
(06:31):
order to be able to identify threats early on through
conversations with government of course, as well as other platform operators,
to understand sort of what the landscape looks like.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Okay, so that continues, and then I want to play
one more cut just to kind of let us everybody
out there understand because a lot of people may not
pay attention to NPR. And I do think this is significant.
She says, truth is a distraction from finding consensus.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
This is nine.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
One of the most significant differences critical from moving from
polarization to productivity is that the wikipedians who write these
articles aren't actually focused on finding the truth. They're working
for something that's a little bit more attainable, which is
the best of what we can know right now, and
after seven years there, I actually believe that they're onto
something that for our most tricky disagreements, seeking the truth
(07:22):
and seeking to convince others of the truth isn't necessarily
the best place to start. In fact, I think our
reverence for the truth might become might have become a
bit of a distraction that is preventing us from finding
consensus and getting important things done.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Buck, what do you think this NPR CEO is awful?
They just sent us the links of all the stories
which are clearly biased. Trump is finally doing the right
thing here, right, and it's taken decades for it to happen. Yeah,
I mean, Clay, I don't think it really is going
to change very much. I mean, one, this woman is
no longer the CEO. To the funding level that they
(08:00):
get from the government is not huge.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I don't even know what it is.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
But I do think it's funny that they complain about
the cut to the funding level. Right, They'll say in
the same breath, Well, most of the funding for NPR
and PBS doesn't actually come from the government. Okay, Well,
then why do you get it at all. So there's
a principle that's at stake here of why would any
media entity that is it's clearly ideological start with that,
(08:26):
But why would it get state funds or government funds.
It makes no sense. There's no argument for it to continue,
So why should it continue. The only argument is that
people on the left like it and they want to
have they want to have a rigged game or rigged system.
But yeah, this woman, these soundbites, Just to be clear,
these were older, and she was pretty unanimously voted off
(08:48):
the island of more senior media executive jobs because saying
that the First Amendment is an impediment to your information operation,
to the SIOP that you're running, is not something that
is generally going to be well received by a majority
of the American public.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I would hope, I would think.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
But yeah, Trump says that he's pulling this, I'm not
sure that he'll be able to. This is the problem
we keep running into once again, congressionally authorized funding versus
executive branch administering of different pools of cash that have
gone to all these different agencies. So we'll see they're
challenging this play obviously right away and they're saying that
(09:27):
their money comes from Congress, not from the president. YadA YadA.
But it's the right move, it's the right thing to do.
I'm glad that he's doing it. It makes the libs cry,
which is always fun. That woman is the president CEO
of NPR. At the time, she was head of Wikipedia.
So Catherine Mayer that all that audio is, Oh, yes,
she's still the pro My gosh, I'm sorry. I thought
(09:49):
she got I thought she got fired.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
She got elevated to that job in March of twenty
twenty four, which was when all this audio from Wikipedia.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
W I'm sorry I sent in that.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
I sent in the clip of her this morning, the
old clipper her. I thought she had been I thought
she had been like reassigned out of the role. I
didn't realize she she is.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
She is the president and CEO of NPR all that
and now she was not at the time that we
played that audio. She was at Wikipedia. But she got
elevated after that too, head of INPR. That is wild
are raising And I saw your tweet about this, and
I think we should hammer this home. If it is
truly not a significant form of revenue for them taxpayer dollars.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Why do they fight so hard to keep it? To
your points?
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I mean, if we lost two percent of the revenue
on this show because somebody was affiliated with the show
that shouldn't have been, and you and I came on
and we were beating the drums and screaming about how
we needed to keep the two percent, I think a
lot of you would say this is very strange. The
what's interesting, Buck, is the way that it is crafted
(10:58):
direct in PR money is not very substantial, but I
think they're backdoring substantial dollars through local NPR affiliates such
that their budget would be severely constrained without this money,
because otherwise, why are they.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Squealing it care so much? Right?
Speaker 4 (11:16):
And why give the right a talking point that is correct.
It's not just something we say, it's the truth, which
is that they shouldn't be getting this money because if
they are media entities that can compete in a fair marketplace,
there's no reason for this. That's stunning. That woman, I
remember replying those clips a while ago. I'm actually in shock.
I don't know why. I thought that they had moved
her somewhere else, So thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I mean what you would think that given that she
is politically radioactive and they are now in the Trump era,
that maybe it would make sense to have a new
president and CEO. But no, she is still there and
she is still taking our taxpayer dollars, and they are
suing along with Corporation of Public Broadcasting to say that
(11:56):
they must have all these dollars and that Trump does
not have the authority to resind them in any way.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Well, I also think that they.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
There's clear I think you're right that there's more money
than they there's more ways that they get money from
the public than they let on, because otherwise, why have
this vulnerability out there that allows us to constantly bash them?
Although I think we've been bashing them for so long
without consequence that maybe they don't care at some level.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
But I think that.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
It's gonna be interesting to see how this actually goes.
They like the idea of government funding something like NPR.
They want to keep this, I think at some level
because they want the precedent to be there that this
is something the government does. The government has a role
in information operations.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Which is what this is.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
NPR is an information operation, you know, and you can
tell you can take that in a very kind of
bland where you can take into the more military info
ops or psyops sense. I mean, they are running political
programming to the American people under the guise of it
being a free and form a free and fair marketplace
of ideas based entity, and it clearly is a rigged system.
(13:05):
I mean, and they don't want it to be called
the rig system anymore, then stop rigging the system.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
And they're competing directly with us, which is why I mean,
I think on a you know, sort of larger just
standing on precedent, standing on principal perspective, it makes sense.
But also if you're listening to this program, the government's
not giving us tens of millions of dollars, and so
if that's not occurring here, we should have an open
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Welcome back into Clay and Bucks. So we got a
guest line up today that is incredible. I wanted to
tell you about it, so you know where we're going
here on the show. Steven Miller, Deputy White House Chief
of Staff, will be with us. In just a little bit.
Joe Conca of Fox News will be in the New
York studio, our New York studio to talk about his
latest book. And then former NYPD Inspector Paul Morrow will
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be with us. I believe he is launching a new
program on Fox Nation. And he was, as I told you,
my uniformed commanding officer when I was in the Intel Division.
So it's been fifteen years and now I get to
hang out with then captain and later after I left,
inspector Deputy Inspector Moro.
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So we'll talk to him about one his show.
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But also I want to ask about these sanctuary city
designations and how low law enforcement, state law enforcement, what's
going on with that. I think that's a very important
piece of the deportation struggle that the Trump administration is
going through right now. Now, Clay some good news as well.
I can tell Clay was in a good mood when
he sat down today. You know he's checking his stocks,
(16:17):
checking it twice, going to make sure that he's naughtyven nice.
Employers added one hundred and seventy seven thousand jobs in April,
solid hiring, four point two percent unemployment. And beyond that,
Clay our market watcher, clay watch mark, you see market
is looking good. I hope you listen to us and
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It's not on the screen anymore as things have started
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since April, stock prices. If you're out there and you've
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out with us. We are rolling through the Friday edition
of the program down in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, where they used
to be good at football. I'm old enough Buck to
remember when Alabama was actually good at football. Feels like
not that long ago. Nick Saban introduced Donald Trump for
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the commencement address at the University of Alabama. And I
don't know if you've heard this story yet, Buck, I've
not heard this story from Nick Saban. He said in
twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen, when they won national championships,
they went to visit the White House and Trump invited
them into the Oval Office and he took several team
captains in with him. And this is a great story
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about Trump. One point zero and what was on the
resolute desk Listen to cut six.
Speaker 7 (19:45):
He's the first president that invited us to come in
the over office. So I take the three captains in
the over office and President's really nice to everybody, and
he's got this very big, good looking auspicious box on
his desk that has a red button on top. And
one of the players said, is that what you launt
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some missiles with? And he said, well, push it and
find out. Player said, no, I don't want to do that.
He said, oh, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, push it.
See see what happens.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Find out.
Speaker 7 (20:21):
So Rashaun Evans finally got the guts up, went over,
pushed the red button. Some lady came in with a
coke on a tray.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Do you remember that, you may have said, I don't
remember seeing it when I was in the Oval office.
But there were reports that Trump had just a diet
coke button and he would push it, and whenever he
pushed it, somebody would show up with the diet coke,
which is very, very funny. I haven't heard Nick Saban
tell that story. And then listen to this reaction buck
during the commencement address, Trump says, Hey, as long as
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I'm president, no men are going to play women's sports.
And listen to the soon to be University of Alabama
graduates go crazy.
Speaker 8 (20:58):
I love sports.
Speaker 9 (20:59):
I think I should have come here. I think I
should have come here. Congratulations as well to the women's
track and field team for winning two SEC titles this year.
That's something. As long and as long as I'm president,
we will always protect women's sports.
Speaker 10 (21:17):
Men will not play in women's sports.
Speaker 9 (21:29):
Nowhere they say that it's an eighty twenty issue. No,
it's a ninety seven to three issue.
Speaker 8 (21:37):
I think.
Speaker 9 (21:39):
No, men will not be playing in women's sports. Well,
already I said that, and I classified it with a
very powerful executive order, as you know.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Okay, so Buck. He also said something that I think
is interesting. And as a New Yorker from the Northeast
who now has married into an SEC family thanks to
your lovely wife, Carrie, he said, and Trump we should
mention today, by the way, said that he's going to
take away Harvard's nonprofit status based on some of their
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political activities. But he said something that I think is
becoming very true. And he told the kids at Alabama this.
He said, it's not the case anymore that even necessarily
you want to be trying to go to a quote
unquote elite Northeastern school, the ivy leagues, that sort of universe,
which used to be an incredible aspiration, that you want
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to go to a school like Alabama, Because he thinks
the Crimson Tide can outperform the Harvard Crimson And I'm
paraphrasing him there a bit, but that's basically what he said.
I'm curious how you would analyze this now that you
live in Florida. And Trump also said there, hey, I
should have come to the University of Alabama. I think
he went to Ivy League institutions in the Northeast. The
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culture shift in education, I think is really one of
the most profound that I have seen over the last generation.
I mean, I can just speak to what it was
like when I growing up in New York City and
going to you guys. I went to Regis, which is
a very interesting place because I think it's still the
only tuition free private high school in the country.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
So it is entirely private. It is funded by.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Alumni and by an initial donation from an anonymous family.
And the whole game was you try to get into
the college that is essentially the highest ranked or gives
you the most money. That was the consideration for a
lot of my classmates, because they wanted Some kids got
full rides. I had a friend, and I'm going to
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tell you this, I had a friend who turned down
the Jefferson scholar scholarship at UVA to go.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
And take out loans at Harvard.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
This was many years ago, and I remember even at
that time thinking free UVA for four years. Better idea
that going to Harvard and taking out loans. And that
was twenty, you know, thirty years ago now, so I
thought that was nuts. But I went to GW for
the scholarship. I wouldn't have gone if they hadn't given
me a scholarship. I mean to that to that point.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
But you know, it used to be I think much
more people. Again, I'm speaking from a you know, New
York City kid perspective, but I'm sure this was replicated.
It looked a lot of my classmates in college were
from you know, good public schools in New Jersey and
the good public schools in Massachusetts, and you know that
we had we had a lot of that going on, right,
and a lot of kids from California. It's particularly Los
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Angeles in my school. But the whole point was you
tried to get into the highest ranked school you could,
you know, and your college admissions conversation was okay on
the US News and World Report rankings, Where do we
think we have a realistic shot. Where do we think
that we have a safety school. I mean, it was
all this big game of trying to get into the
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best school, the highest ranked school. And I just think
that that's changed a lot. And I know it's changed
a lot because when I talked to different family who
have kids. You know, we're very close to a couple
of families who live our neighbors here who've got you know,
just like same age as your boys, Clay. You know,
they've got like, you know, a fifteen year old, a
seventeen year old. And I talked to the parents, and
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the kids are thinking about things like where do I
want to go to school for four years? What programs
do I want to be enrolled in? And I think
that there's a lot of reasons for this. I'd be
curious to know what some of the parents in the
audience think, or you know, recent parents people have had
kids go through the system college recently. Because Clay, for
one thing, these schools are not what they promised to be,
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which is elite incubators of the top intellectual talent that
will therefore translate into you having a great, a great career. Right,
That's actually not how it works anymore.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I think part of it is people have realized a
lot of these schools take plenty of people who really
aren't cognitively that impressive for different reasons, and so that
waters down the brand of Oh, you must be so
small because you went It's just not true. I know
dumbasses who went to Harvard, and.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
I really mean that they had either really rich parents
where they were a really special profile or demographic applying.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
You know, they checked all the right boxes.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
And I think people also are just realizing that there
are more places with remote work and the way the
economy is trending, there are more places where you can
be and have a better life, a better lifestyle, and
raise a family than just the most expensive metros in
the country.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
That's I know that's a lot, but I really thought
about this stuff.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
No, I mean, I think about it now because I'm
taking my junior in high school and we're going on
these campus visits, and so much I think of college
is not necessarily just classroom. I actually think that's a
small part of it. It's what you learn from the
people around you. My best friends today are people typically
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that I went to law school with at Vanderbilt back
in the day.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
When we're twenty two to twenty three years old.
Speaker 6 (26:59):
And.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
The value of that is just being around smart people.
And I mentioned that I went to GW. I still
have a lot of good friends from college as well.
We were in the honors program at GW. They gave
us scholarships, these honor programs, like you mentioned the Jefferson
scholar thing at UVA. Every state school in America now
has an honors program that, if you are able to
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get into, is IVY League elite without all of the
crazy left wing shenanigans. So a lot of these schools, man,
I gotta tell you. You get into the University of
Florida now, and it pains me to say it, as
a University of Tennessee fan. You get into the University
of Georgia, Alabama where we just played it from the
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University of Tennessee, and you are in an honors part
of that university. I think that education is probably I
can't believe I'm saying this. I think that education is
better now than what you would get in the IVY
League because I think you get a wider variety of
perspectives at a state school. I think you're way less
likely to feel like you're being incubated in some far
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left wing universe. And I've visited some of these schools
back and I don't want to call them out because
my kids are in the middle of applying. The first
thing they say is an apology to Native Americans. When
you begin campus tool, text me about that. That was hilarious.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
They actually they're doing Native American land apologies on college.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Elite schools, elite campuses. I know my teenager looked at me.
I thought we were like getting SNL pranked. The way
that you would start at one of these elite colleges
is not by saying, hey, we're happy to have you here. Hey,
let's talk about this being one of the greatest schools
in the country. It's before we tell you anything else,
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we would like to apologize to the Native Americans and
acknowledge that our university is now located on what used
to be Native American lands. And I really I looked around.
That didn't happen when I visited twenty years ago. I
felt like I was being pranked. I thought like somebody
was going to pop out with a camera. That's how
you begin the process of selling me on wanting to
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pay one hundred thousand dollars intuition basically, and and room
cost for my kids. I every parent who's around our
age has to be sitting there thinking, and certainly older parents.
There's no way this is the real world. Surely some
of these things are going to get dialed back, but
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for that to be the front facing idea that you're
putting out there about your university makes me not want
my kid to even apply at schools like those.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Yes, so, but I think this is a good thing
because also there's people should think differently about the school
they go to and and this idea that it's a
ticket to As you know, Clay, Also in the professional world,
people tend to care a lot more about where you
went to grad school in terms of its eliteness. Like
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you went to built law school. Nobody even really cares
where you went to undergrad if you went to a
top twenty law school like Vanderbilt is right, so that's
something that gets far more attention. Like I looked at
I was going to go to Columbia Business School, right,
I was gonna get my Columbia MBA. That would be
even more But put all that stuff aside, look at
look at a lot of the people. Look at a
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lot of the most successful people in America right now,
and I know just I don't mean the richest, although
that often is goes hand in hand, but the people
who are doing the coolest and most amazing stuff, a
lot of them went to either a school that nobody
would ever be quote impressed by, or didn't finish school
or didn't go out. I'm talking about college, not you know,
graduate high school obviously, but you know, I think that
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the the the flow of information that people have access
to now as well. You can take entire classes on
the classics from Yale University professors online. Now, I mean,
and that's just one example. There's all over the place.
So what what really, what information advantage do you have
of going to one of these places that cost eighty
thousand dollars a year and you're going to be cold
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all the time and everybody drinks too much like AMers.
You know, this is a it's a change, I think
in the approach to what people think. And I even
talked about how we didn't even have sororities at my school.
I feel to this day like something was stolen from me.
No sororities.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
You had never been to a college football game. I'm
telling you that a lot of these kids are seeing
what it's like on an SEC football Saturday, and they're saying,
why in the world would I not do this eight
saturdays a year. We did have Women and Gender Studies
as a major, however, so no sororities at Amherst. But WAGS,
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which is what they called it was something you could
major in for four years. I like the other kind
of WAGS better, which came out of Britain wives and
girlfriends of soccer stars. You know that's kind of the Let.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Me tell you, nobody who was majoring in WAGS was
ever going to want to be in a sorority.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
I can tell you that.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Or or date a successful athlete. I don't think they're
going to be on that flows out. Not a lot
of that going on.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Nose rings though, a lot of nose rings, So if
you're interested in that, WAGS was a great place you
could find out where the best nose ring dealers were.
All right, we'll take some of your calls here. Also,
we got some friends who weighed in on the moving
Should your hot girlfriend help you move controversy it's Friday.
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White House Deputy Chief of Staff, and perhaps perhaps an
additional title going his way. Shortly we'll ask him about
that because there's an opening of the National Security Advisor,
isn't there, but we will. We will talk to Steven
Miller here coming up in a few minutes. Yesterday some controversy.
We had a call or actually was a talkback and
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he and he said that he broke up with his
hot too hot for him, he said, like too hot
to be dating him.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
But you know, sometimes we get lucky in life.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
All guys can hope my wife is too hot for me,
but she married me, so I'm I'm pleased, you know,
I'll take it.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
But too hot for him didn't help him move. He
broke up with her. I got.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
I got Carol Markowitz and Lisa Booth Clay fired up
about this member. They're on the Klay and Buck podcast networks.
To go subscribe they both do. Lisa Booth Carol Markuitz
do great shows. Listening to them this weekend for all
the eighties out there. By the way, two of the
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subscribe to Clay and Buck network. Let's start with weigh
in on should your hot girlfriend help you move controversy.
(35:11):
We'll start with Carol Markowitz hit. It starts with.
Speaker 8 (35:15):
Carol Markowitz from The Carol Markowitz Show and normally so
my first instinct is that no girlfriend, hot or not,
should help you move. It's just not our department. I'm
big on heteronormative division of labor. Help you decorate when
you move in sure, even help you unpack. Okay, but Carrie,
(35:37):
heavy boxes. That's what your guy friends are for. Having
said that, when you're in your twenties, anything goes. I
definitely helped boyfriends move at that age. But if you
are looking for that more traditional setup as you get older,
where men do the heavy, yucky stuff and kill bugs
along the way while women care for the home, cook
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take care of the children, and generally coordinate life, then
you start that kind of thing early on, and the
hot girlfriend did nothing wrong.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Carol Waite in what do you think? I think Carol
should read every book. I don't know that anybody has
a better voice than Carol. I mean, I know MPR
is getting unfunded, but they should actually have Carol doing
their updates at the end of every hour because she
has perfect voice.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
I will hear from others.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Look, I think that if you need your girlfriend to
help you carry a heavy box, your masculinity is in question.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
You were probably a white guy for Kamala.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Yes, you were probably a white dude for Harris if
you need help carrying boxes by your girlfriend because she
may be stronger than you and have a bigger penis.
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