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August 19, 2025 36 mins

Hour 1 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show opens with a deep dive into the aftermath of a major White House meeting and President Trump’s efforts to broker peace between Ukraine and Russia. The hosts analyze Trump’s comments about arranging a face-to-face meeting between Vladimir Putin and Volodymyr Zelensky, his assurance that there will be no U.S. boots on the ground, and the debate over what a security guarantee for Ukraine might entail. They explore whether this could include air support from Poland or other NATO allies, and discuss Trump’s possible motivation to secure a Nobel Peace Prize, raising concerns about whether a rushed ceasefire could lead to future conflicts.

The conversation then shifts to domestic issues, focusing on rising crime in Washington, D.C. and whether deploying more law enforcement and federal agents could dramatically reduce violent crime rates. Clay and Buck highlight the political stakes for Democrats if a surge in policing proves effective, noting that D.C.’s current murder rate mirrors New York City’s peak crime era in 1990. They argue that addressing crime is less about complexity and more about political will, warning that a successful crackdown could expose years of failed policies in Democrat-controlled cities.

Listeners also get a lighter segment as the hosts react to a viral video of RFK Jr. working out in jeans and a belt, sparking a humorous debate about fitness habits and a viral challenge: 100 push-ups and 50 pull-ups in five minutes. Clay and Buck share their own workout routines, question whether middle-aged men can meet the challenge, and invite the audience to join in. This playful exchange underscores the show’s mix of serious analysis and cultural commentary.

Additional highlights include the announcement of Clay’s upcoming debate with Stephen A. Smith on sports, politics, and culture in New York City on September 16, and a look ahead to the return of NFL and college football, including a marquee matchup in Ireland. The hour closes with a discussion on the PGA Tour returning to Trump golf courses, signaling a cultural shift in sports and politics.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody. Tuesday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show kicks off now, and we are honored to
have all of you. Thanks for hanging out. And we
have the aftermath of the big White House showdown yesterday
really more of a more of a gathering showdown because
you didn't have Zelenski and Putent staring across the table

(00:21):
at each other. That may be in the works though
in fact Trump spoke to that. We will let you
hear from the President on that this morning called in
Fox of Friends. Also, the big big question, after some
of the discussions yesterday, does a security guarantee for Ukraine
involve US troops in any capacity? Trump has addressed that

(00:44):
as I thought he would, and I think it's something
that you will all certainly want to hear and be
pleased with what his take is on that. So we'll
get into that some early crime data out of DC
that Clay is going to hit you with in the
later this hour or the next hour. But there's anyone
to guess just up front before Clay sheds light via

(01:07):
statistics on what's happening in DC with crime, do you
think if you put more good guys with guns, who
are law enforcement, who are federal agents on the streets
of a place, will there be more or less, fewer
or more murders, fewer or more robberies. You know, Just

(01:32):
we'll all think this through for a second and then
we'll get into the numbers, because I want us to
go through that exercise.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Clay.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Democrats are going to start acting shocked by all this.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Like, oh my gosh, you mean to tell me that
more cops enforcing the law and present to arrest bad
people from doing bad things means there is less bad
stuff that happens.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
This is shocking. Yeah, I want to dive into that.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Also, I will suggest that all of the coverage about
more police officers may also dry down the amount of
crime because the bad guys are maybe looking over their
shoulder a little bit more, or they're more cognizant of
the dangers that can be out there for them because

(02:18):
they're aware that this is now a priority. So I
would submit it's not even just the guys on the
streets arresting the bad guys. It's letting the bad guys know, hey,
we're looking for you, and we got a lot more
people out than normal.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yes, there's the additional deterrence factor of we have more
people out there and they are being politically supported in
their law enforcement efforts. You're not going to be able
to pull out a camera and look, I'm not resisting
while you're resisting, Like why are you? You know this
is you see all these videos of people who they
refuse to comply and they keep saying I'm complying while

(02:51):
they're like elbowing the cop in the face. So yeah,
enough of that all. Speaking of that, did you see
the video of the I forget you know, different terms everywhere,
but essentially the county prosecutor from Massachusetts, the woman I
don't even know this is. Do you see this is
going viral? Who's telling the cop while she's super drunk
and I'm a da and he's like, congrats for you

(03:14):
or whatever for you. Yeah, I know this. I know
this from cop friends of mine and from just seeing
things out in the real world. I think there are
a few things that are more likely to get you
arrested by a cop than breaking the law and acting
like a jackass who's allowed to break the law when
the cop is like, you can't do that. Like if

(03:35):
I were a cop and someone tells me ooh, effectively
on above the law. I'm a DA. It's like, well,
now people try this with speeding tickets, people try this
with all kinds of things. Thank God for body cameras
because the cops know. The cops know that their actions
are correct, they know that it's being recorded. So all
this bullying that you get from this female DA who

(03:56):
is just I think the Scottish would say, bluett. She
is just bombed out of her mind drinking whatever it
is she's drinking. And and Clay, this is the truth.
It's It's a great thing for cops because we can
see what they actually do and therefore they can't be
bullied by people who are like I know your boss anyway.
Oh and then one other question I want to throw

(04:16):
out there before we get into the aftermath statements from Trump.
Clay raised this. I've thought about this many times myself.
Our friend Pete hag Seth, Secretary of Defense out there
in a video ladies, sadly he has a shirt on
during it. But but I just I think our FK
Junior does not have his shirt on during it?

Speaker 5 (04:33):
Right?

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Is that? Am I correct in that? Or no? No, no,
he's got his shirt and at least that I got
a shirt. Yeah, okay, all right, because because he does
like to work out without a shirt, we're aware of that.
But that's what that's a choice. Whatever. We all get that.
Why does RFK Junior work out in jeans? It's diabolical.
I'm not I'm not saying I'm some kind of expert,
clearly not. Okay, we all were. I'm not saying, but

(04:56):
jeans are not a comfortable thing to work out in.
And about every had a belt and a belt, jeans
with a belt on like incredible Hulk style, except the
jeans aren't all like broken from where If you're campaigning
and you're like, hey, let me just wrap out twenty
pushups to show what good shape I'm in. It's not scheduled,

(05:18):
but they had a scheduled to work out and RFK
rolled in in jeans and a belt to do a
push up and pull up challenge, and I just it.
I think it's diabolical. I don't know what the thought
process is.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
Maybe the least comfortable outfit to work jeans like starchy, uncomfortable, wrangler,
Leviy's whatever it is, jeans and a belt like I
don't even like wearing belts for normal life.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
It's weird, So why is he doing it. I'm just
throwing this out there. I know it's not important. Okay,
we'll talk about important stuff now, but it's just a
fun thought. Here's the important stuff. Trump on the Ukraine
War first of all, the two big takeaways, what comes
next and what's the status if there is an agreement
of US troops to guarantee security. This is cut one.

(06:10):
Here's what Trump said.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
I wouldn't say they are ever going to be best friends,
but they're doing okay, and we're just going to see.
So we're setting up a meeting. I sort of set
it up with Putin and Zelinski, and you know, they're
the ones that have to call the shots where we're
seven thousand miles away. You know, fairness, you know we
have We've spent through the previous administration three one hundred
and fifty villion dollars. Europe has spent a lot, also

(06:34):
one hundred villion. But it should be reversed if we
should have been in for anything, but it wouldn't have happened,
so that would have been much better because so many
people died. This is the biggest This is the biggest
bad situation since World War Two. There's been nothing even close.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Clay, He's getting them to sit down, and this process
is unfolding in a way where you're seeing who wants
there to be, who is rooting for peace, and who
cares more about a temporary setback for Trump's legacy than
stopping mass death and carnage in Europe. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
Look, I don't think you can criticize Trump for anything
he is doing trying to stop the fighting in Ukraine. Now,
as we talked about yesterday, I think you're in a
tough spot where Russia is demanding territory and Ukraine is
demanding that they never have to be in this situation again.

(07:31):
And I don't see any way that Ukraine agrees to
any of this without substantial security guarantees, because they've already
been screwed on security guarantees before. And so I think
it's going to put us into a tough spot now.
I think Trump, and this is what I was gonna mention.
I didn't mention it yesterday. For all of the criticism

(07:54):
out there about Trump, I think he desperately wants to
win the Nobel Peace Prize. I think he does and
My only concern about that, which is a very incredibly
defensible goal that's fabulous, is could his pursuit of the

(08:17):
Nobel Peace Prize, which is the exact opposite of all
of his critics who say, oh, he's going to start
in World War three, He's Adolph Hitler. Could his pursuit
of the Nobel Peace Prize make him accept a ceasefire
peace agreement that is actually not in the best interest

(08:37):
of the larger world. That's my only concern at this
point about I think Trump wants peace so badly that
he may be willing to give the benefit of the
doubt to Vladimir Putin about his future aggressions after Trump
has gone, because I do think once this war is stopped,
I don't think Vladimir Putin is going to do anything

(08:59):
while Trump is still in office. But I think Putin
can play the long game because he may be in
power for another twenty years and Trump is going to
be gone in three and a half. Another very important
follow up Clay was on the issue of US troops
as a guarantee of security, that being either a base

(09:20):
a US base there, which would be the most extreme,
I think version of the guarantee something like what we
have in South Korea, or even the promise by some
binding treaty or agreement, obligation, whatever, that the US will
be the cavalry coming over the hill if Russia were
to invade after a deal had been agreed to. Here

(09:40):
is what Trump says about this play for.

Speaker 6 (09:42):
What kind of assurances do you feel like you have
that going forward?

Speaker 1 (09:47):
And you know, past this.

Speaker 6 (09:49):
Trump administration, it won't be American boots on the ground
defending that border.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
The way, you have my issurance, and I'm president and
I'm just trying to stop people from being killed. Charlie. Look,
they're losing from five to seven thousand people a week.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
So he's he's pretty clear from what I understand claout
it's not going to be US boots on on the
ground in Ukraine.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
Yes, But to be fair to Trump, I think Trump
basically has all options on the table, and I think
all those options on the table could include some variation
of what is the security guarantee going to look like
for the United States.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
The thing his words here a little bit, he goes,
you have my assurance, because the way the question has
set up is obviously concerned about US troops. He goes,
you have my assurance, and I'm president. I'm just trying
to stop people from being killed. I want to that
that kind of leaves some open territory on that. Actually
that is not as yeah. And also boots on the ground,

(10:59):
what is I mean you have my assurance in response
to that question, it's not as clear when I read
through the transcript a second time and go hold on second.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
Well, not only that, I mean boots on the ground
doesn't mean you couldn't have airplanes taking off from a
bordering country to provide some sort of aerial support, right,
I mean, what, We're not gonna have boots on the ground,
but what if we have fifty fighter jets in Poland
that can be at the line of defense in six minutes? Right,

(11:27):
I mean they're not technically boots on the ground, but
air support from Poland or any other country that would
kind of surround there. So I think, I mean Trump.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
It would be a Turkey shoot of the Russian Air
Force if US actually decided that they were going to
really dig in. I mean, they've got some advanced planes.
Our stuff is way better.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
But so I think the phrasing that they chose there
is very interesting. What I said yesterday was I think
you could have a front line of Ukrainian troops. I
think you could have a supportive peacekeeping line of European troops.
And then what if the United States rings even more
soldiers just off the perimeter outside of the territory of Ukraine,

(12:09):
but where we could scramble as that third line of
defense instantaneously in the event that we needed to. I
think you're going to see a lot of play in
the joints, so to speak, about allowing Putin to potentially
feel like he got a victory, allowing Ukraine to feel
like they got a victory. And again, my concern is

(12:32):
that Trump wants peace to such an extent, it's the
exact opposite of all the criticism against him that he
could agree to a deal that doesn't have a lot
of teeth and sets us up for five years from
now to be in the same position we're in now.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
I would also I would point out that Zelenski and
Putin sitting down, which he has said clearly that that
is in process, and that's the next step. That's the
next phase. You got to get them to at least
agree roughly what the territory swaps or territory lines would
look like the security guarantee could come after that, right,

(13:08):
I mean this is this is like a phased process
of you need them to at least be able to say, okay,
these would be the lines. The security guarantee is the
enforcement mechanism for the lines. And so that that I
think is a conversation that can Now that doesn't mean
that Putin obviously won't agree to the lines on the
map if there's going to be a security guarantee that

(13:29):
he finds too threatening or whatever. But I do think
it's it's one and then the other. I also want
to point out that I checked just to be sure.
RFK Junior is doing lunges in jeans Clay even more psycho,
lunge even more psycho. I mean, there's got to be
chafing going on like lunges.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
Just that makes me, it makes me actually feel uncomfortable
to think about working out in jeans and a belt
like unless again, you're like on the construction crew and
suddenly there's a challenge about how many burpies you can do,
you know, like again to be getting dressed to go
to the gym, and that includes putting on. I think
he's got boots boots on too, Yes, yes, yeah, No,

(14:11):
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Speaker 1 (15:13):
Podcasts all right. I'm fired up and we got a
lot of fun things to roll through today. But I'm
watching this video of RFK Junior in his big Timberland
boots and his and his jeans and his belt, and
he's got on a ski park. You know, why not

(15:33):
just why not just go all in?

Speaker 4 (15:36):
It's wild the number of you that are arguing with me.
So I shared this video and it's Pete Hegset Defence
Secretary RFK Junior. They're trying to get people to work
out more and the challenge was fifty pull ups and
one hundred pushups in five minutes, and I said, that
is insanely difficult, and a ton of you are in

(16:00):
mentions like that's not that hard.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Unless you are a freak athlete.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
One hundred real pushups and fifty real pull.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Ups in five minutes.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
I think one in ten thousand men can complete that
challenge right now.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Now, maybe you're the one in ten thousand. I was
with you until the one in ten I think. I
don't think it's one of ten thousand. I don't think
I don't think it's what age range are we talking to,
because I mean, you know, some of you are very
harsh in the comments on us middle aged men. Klay
are middle aged men. Clay's gonna be fifty soon, for
heaven's sake, Like we're not twenty five anymore, guys, you know,

(16:41):
back off. I'm not talking about people that are in
professional good shape. I'm talking about the average guy. The
average guy probably weighs too twenty. What do you think
the average weight in America is right now? To twenty
in your forties. You have to adjust for age, right, Yeah,
the average American male at that about two twenty to
two thirty at in their forties, that would be my

(17:04):
most guys can rocket rocket. Most guys cannot bench press
their body weight. We had this discussion, like not even
close to being able to bench press their body This
is where the pull ups becomes much tougher, because that's
a strength to This is where people like your wife
and my wife, who are strong for their size, makes
it difference. Right when I was forty pounds heavier, I

(17:27):
could bench a lot more than I could bench right
now actually, and that was only a year ago. But
pull ups definitely better at pull ups now than I
was forty pounds heavier. So this is what you got
to take into account some.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
Of these incredible trained soldiers right now can do it.
I think, I think hardly anyone can do that. I
don't I don't know how many people listening to us
right now could do it. That is really hard.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
I mean, your middle aged guy post, post your photo,
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Speaker 1 (18:52):
Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. Want to
take your calls and your talkbacks and all that good stuff.
So make sure you hit us up the talkback on
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(19:15):
of our producer Greg I'mbudsman activities. According to the CDC,
the average American man in his middle age is about
two hundred pounds, but Clay, to be fair of the
average height is five to nine. So I the height
was a little less than I remembered, you know that
I had thought. So if you're six feet tall, I'd
say the average probably weigh is more like two fifteen

(19:37):
to twenty. But the average weight overall is two hundred pounds.
Man Clay thinks that it is very impressive. He thinks
it is a one in ten thousand shot for a
guy in middle age to be able to do what
it's one hundred pushups and fifty.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
Fifty pull ups in five minutes. And I mean, if
you doubt me on this, just go. You made a
good challenge. But I mean, I think these things are fun,
Like it's good to test yourself, it's good to challenge yourself.
You and I like to try to do these things,
but I don't like I feel comfortable. I can do
one hundred push ups in five minutes, no issue, right,

(20:13):
I think I could do fifty pull ups in five minutes,
no issue.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
But to do both in five minutes, you have to
be in crazy good shape, crazy good and look, I mean,
the reality is you have to break it up in
some way, so there's a transition time that is taking
up some of your time as well. I think probably
the way to.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
Do it would be to do sets of ten or
twenty push ups and then try to do five or
ten pull ups at a time, so you minimize the
number amount of time you're transitioning between the two different workouts.
Because most people are not going to be able to
do one hundred straight push ups or fifty straight pull ups,

(20:54):
so I think hardly anybody can do it, and a
lot of people don't realize how difficult it is, and
so pull out your phone at some point today. Just
don't injure yourselves. But at some point today, just pull
out your phone and time yourself trying to do push ups.
Most people can't even do ten push ups right, Like
the average man sadly cannot just do ten push ups.

(21:15):
So the idea that you're going to do one hundred
and you're not going to be getting worse. Here's a
good workout. I do this workout most days now. I
do one hundred squats, I do one hundred push ups,
and I do one hundred sit ups in right around
twelve minutes.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
It's easy, it is.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
I do sets of ten, and I mean that's a
challenge time wise, but it doesn't take up very much times.
Great workout. It's all natural. You don't have to have
any fancy attributes or you know, bench press machines or
anything else.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Just your body. One hundred one hundred, one hundred in
about twelve minutes is a really good challenge.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
Get your heart rate up. But I love this. I
like that they're putting challenges out there. But the number
of people who are just like this is no hard
I just I mean, unless you are professionally in good shape,
it is really hard to do so challenges out there,
gauntlet throne. I bet hardly anybody in the Clay and
Buck audience can do it right now?

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Yeah, well, oh hardly anyone. No, We've we got a
lot of meat eaters in this audience. Man, we got
we got played even even fifty pull ups, real pull up.
There's some former there's some retired Green Berets and seals
and rangers and you know State troopers and firemen. They're
like clay tracks. It is gay.

Speaker 4 (22:34):
Seth is in really good shape. I think that's fair
to say for a forty five year old guy. Heg
Seth is in the top ten percent best shape. I
don't think anybody could argue that he couldn't do it,
really Yeah, and RFK Junior couldn't do it now. RFK
Junior is like seventy some odd years old. May may
have a little bit of a of a I got

(22:55):
something to throw in the mix here. We're going to
get back to serious stuff in a second policy fixing
DC crime, I promise, because we may be rolling with
the secondary defense. At some point we've talked to him
and his team about this uh to be joined the
press pool so officially along in some capacity on the
road somewhere.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Do you think you could be Pete in an arm
wrestling match. I don't think so. I mean, he's got
pretty big guns. Yeah, you know, you know slouch there, Travis. Yeah,
I mean, I just I think Pete Pete is like
in really good shape. I think I could beat most
uh Trump cabinet officials in an arm wrestling contest. I
think Pete would get me. I think I could take Trump.

(23:34):
I got an advantage age wise, RFK Junior. I might
demand a drug test because I think that guy is
he's got a little bit of a pet He's got
to got some Barry bonds going in his favor. The
CDC should study whatever Rfk's drug test comes out, as
that would be interesting or not CDC, you know, the
NIH or whatever or not ah hhs wherever he runs.

(23:55):
Sorry I keep forgetting what he runs, But yes, I
think that uh Man, I'm a little probably thought you
were gonna say I was looking forward to this because
I was obviously gonna be on the you know, the
uh do O D plane videoing Clay On the Secretary
of defense arm wrestling to see who comes out champion.
But another time I'll find another one. We're gonna get you.
We're gonna get you in some kind of a physical

(24:16):
challenge here with something. Besson's got no chance. What Nick
those guys would I would wreck. It was a mean punch.
People said, I got twenty years on Bessant. I think
I would. I think I would wreck Bessant. Tulsi, Tulsie
actually strong. I think as being a man, I should
be able to out arm wrestle Tulsi. Kind of running

(24:39):
through the cabinet members. Linda McMahon, she has no hope.
Her husband, Vince, another steroid guy, would have some would
have a good chance against me. I think, even though
he's almost eighty, I still think we're gonna get you
and Pete. We're gonna to do stuff we'll have to do,
like a pull up challenge or something of YouTube. But
all right, back to that, back to fixing the world.
Stephen A. Smith, who Clay it's going to be having.

(25:01):
I keep feeling like I'm spoiling this, but you have
a debate with Stephen A Smith set up in New York. Right,
everyone knows this.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
September September sixteenth, Stephen A. Smith and I are debating
on every issue under the sun, sports, politics, culture, whatever
you want. I don't know the questions we're doing at
least an hour in New York City.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Here is Stephen A. Smith on the Ukraine war. Play ten.

Speaker 8 (25:24):
We ain't gonna act like he caused this now his
Democrats in office. It was boded in office when a
full fledged war against Ukraine took place courtesy of Russia's instigation.
No matter what they try to say to Trump, it
was Russia that invaded Crimea, and that was under the
Obama administration.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
It was Clinton in office when.

Speaker 8 (25:42):
You made a deal that this armed the Ukraine and
therefore weakened them, leaving them depending on the United States
and now here they are having to beg for support
that they're own because of what.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
We promised them as a nation. We promised them this.
You owe it to the Ukrainians, You absolutely do. While
I may disagree with the decibel level, I think overall
the analysis is correct there, and it's important because right
now there are all these people who are so opposed

(26:14):
to Trump, who just because this is where the focus is,
they're trying to find some way to look at Trump
as the problem when Trump is actually only either the
solution or the guy trying to be the solution. And
I think this is why he keeps saying this. And
it's not a minor point. Here's Trump. This has cut

(26:35):
six that this really got going actually under Obama. Notice
a pattern. Everybody Democrat in office, Russia grabs stuff. Democrat
in office, Russia gets more aggressive because they don't fear
repris all. This is cut six.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Well, the war really started over NATO and Crimea. They
wanted Crimea back. That was given, not a shot fired
by President Obama. And perhaps the worst real estate deal
I've ever seen. Crimea is the Apple of Ukraine. I mean,
it's so beautiful, and Obama gave it away. Nobody ever
mentions that if I ever did that, the fake news
would be they would be writing about me day and

(27:13):
night for years. He gave it away, he demanded that
they let it go, and Russia came in and took it,
just took it like from a candy from a baby.
That was really Obama's really, I mean, that was pure
and simple Obama's fault.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
It was Obama's fault and Obama was wimpy on not
even being willing to give basic assistance to the Ukrainians
to push back the initial Russian assault. Yes, and the
stephen A take is right.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
I just it's hard for me to hear it with
a straight face because it could also be at the
same decibel and argument about Lebron versus Jordan. So I
do think that Trump parachuting in here to try to
save the day. It's impossible to size him on this.

(28:02):
I don't even know even the people who hate Trump.
Yesterday at the White House, all of those European leaders
all working hard to try to solve this issue. And
I do think it's worth pointing out how much really
does Ukraine Russia impact us.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
In the United States?

Speaker 4 (28:23):
I mean really even in the price of oil and gas,
because we basically have winked, winked and nodded nodded at
India and China being able to take Russia's oil and gas,
so they're not driving up the price by buying it elsewhere.
I would argue, again, I'm not talking about morally, I'm
talking about just in terms of your mind. Everybody out

(28:46):
there listening to us today, does Russia and Ukraine being
in a war impact any of our lives at all,
I would argue no, like on a significant level where
it impacts any of our day to day existences at all,
I would argue no. Trump is trying to solve this
because morally he thinks that it is better for the

(29:09):
world if there is not a war there. But it
isn't really the United States's fight. And so all of
the criticism of Trump to me, when you really start
to look at everything that he's done, I think the
reason the Democrats are flailing and don't really have a
foundational belief system in place is because most of what's

(29:30):
Trump's doing is actually morally in the right, I mean honestly,
and even looking at what's going on in DC, which
we're going to dive into in the next hour, with
some of the numbers that are coming out, the fact
that Democrats have lined up and we got some talking
points that are just crazy. The fact that Democrats have

(29:52):
basically lined up with Trump shouldn't try to decrease the
violent crime rate in DC bonkers. And again at second
hour we'll really dive into this. But imagine if it worked.
Just imagine if sending a bunch of national Guard troops
in and having a lot more support on the streets

(30:14):
if suddenly the violent crime rate plummets in DC. Really,
what it shows is it's not that difficult to address crime.
It's just that the will to do it isn't there.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
This is why the political consequences are so concerning to Democrats,
because as we have seen with the border, as we've
said many times, they chose to let ten million people
just scam the system and come into the country illegally.
They chose to do that. It wasn't Oh, it wasn't
like a hurricane hit and nobody knew what was going on,
and oh, we couldn't have prepared for this. No, they

(30:47):
chose to do it, and Trump chose to shut it down.
What happens when it becomes too clear. It should already
be clear, but this DC experiment could make it even
more unavoidable. As a conclusion that they have chosen to
allow these cities, DC, Baltimore, South Side of Chicago, Saint Louis,

(31:07):
New Orleans go down, all these completely democrat controlled cities,
let them have high crime rates, high murder rates. What
does that mean about their ability to govern? Yes?

Speaker 4 (31:19):
And if it can be fixed that the Democrats are arguing, Oh,
it's racism, it's systemic, it's impossible, it's an intractable issue.
What if it's actually very fixable and all it takes
is marshaling resources in places where violent crime are at
their highest. I saw a great stat Buck, and again, well,
I really haven't got a bunch of stats on this.

(31:41):
DC today has the same murder rate as New York
City in nineteen ninety that I think for you living
in New York at that time, that was kind of
the peak of New York's murder rate, when over two
thousand people or whatever it was were being killed a
year in New York.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
That is DC today.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
So we are talking about DC having a crime rate
that is the same level as New York at its
worst before Giuliani came in and said, uh huh, we're
fixing this. We'll talk about it more. In the meantime.
NFL football it's back.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Yes, they may still make some awful decisions about the
messages that they have in the end zone.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
They need to take them out once and for all.
But college football also back. This weekend, we got a
big game in Ireland going on between Kansas State and
Iowa State. I think I got that right. You guys
can blow me up if I'm wrong. But college football
is going to be back. Big game in Ireland going
on this weekend next weekend. I'm looking forward to this.

(32:44):
I've never been to Florida State. I'm gonna go watch
Alabama play against Florida State. Looking forward to being down
there for that game. Going to be all over the place.
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Speaker 4 (33:55):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We'll dive
into some of the data on Prime when we come back,
including what I would say is a very surprising New
York Times editorial that happened over the weekend. We'll get
to a couple of your calls here in a moment.
One bit of news that I think is a sign
of America continuing to heal. And it might sound like

(34:17):
a small thing, but it's a symbolic in the.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
World of sports. The PGA, which pulled all golf events
from Trump golf courses, is going back to Trump golf courses. Buck,
the Trump Drau Course, the Big Green Monster is going
to host a PGA golf event. And it might sound
minor to some of you out there, but I do

(34:40):
think this is emblematic of the culture shifting in real
time in a big way, and much of it is
happening in sports. Okay, A couple of calls Gene in
Upstate New York, which you got for us. Gene.

Speaker 9 (34:55):
Hey, I'm up near Cooperstown, which I know you guys
are an o with.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
Daria, fabulous alous place. I was there two years ago
for my son's twelve you baseball tournaments, where the Baseball
Hall of Fame is beautiful in the summer.

Speaker 5 (35:07):
Thanks and wherever I travel to hear in New York
they think I live in an apartment house and then
take it someway right, and I tell them there's more
cows in the county I live in, and there are
people well anyway, Russia, Ukraine, in my opinion, we know
about Ladimir Putin. I don't think under any circumstances anywhere
in this universe would he want to see Donald Trump

(35:28):
get a win on this. Would he want to increase
Donald Trump's stature and decrease his stature. I think that's
a big fact that I don't know if anybody has
latched on to yet. And they talk about the Russian
troops that are dieing. If you looked at Russia's history,
and I know you guys are history buffs. They have
no regard for their troops. They send their troops into
battle like cannon fider.

Speaker 9 (35:49):
They did it. World War two generals just used tactics
that Allied generals would never use, and that's their history.
I'm sure that hasn't changed. But to put Donald Trump
to walk away with Nobel Peace Prize, I think Putin
will do anything for that not to happen on his back,
and I think that could be a factor in these negotiations.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
It's interesting, Thank you for the call. He's right about
Russian troops cannon fodder. Read World War II studies. What
they did is flat out unbelievable, the mini material they
were willing to lost. Hack look at Napoleon and what
he found out when he tried to conquer. Do you
buy that? I think it's an interesting theory. Do you
think Putin would not want Trump to win the Nobel
Peace Prize or do you think Putin cares? I don't

(36:33):
think Putin cares. Yeah, why would Putin care.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
That?

Speaker 4 (36:37):
He doesn't want Trump to get the shine? But I
think if PCs a strategically beneficial to himself, I don't
think he particularly cares. Crime data. When we come back,
is the surgeon DC working some numbers for you?

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Let's discuss

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