August 5, 2024 • 36 mins
Will the Kamala sugar high end, or can she really beat Trump? Clay is nervous, Buck confident he'll pull it out. Stock market down over 1000 points. Business media reacts to the tanking economy. David Axelrod says it's still Trump's race to lose, Dems should not be overconfident. C&B take calls.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in everybody. Monday edition of The Klay Travis n.
Buck Sexton Show kicks off right now now. Jones down
over one thousand points this morning, dropping almost three percent
markets worldwide. Perhaps a reckoning with a lot of the
central bank policies, including our own FED policy that has
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been coming for a long time, obviously affecting your four
O one k, affecting your stocks, affecting the entire economy,
and with it the political race that is underway which
we're going to be diving into today. We also have
a likely vice president vice president for the Harris ticket
announcement tomorrow. Everyone's saying Shapiro, Clay, what are the better
(00:45):
betting market setting about Shapiro right now? Yeah, exactly as
we're talking right at this moment, Buck sixty seven percent
chance of Shapiro, nineteen percent Tim Waltz, and then it
drops off. Mark Kelly five percent, Andy Basheer three mayor
Pete one percent, So big favorite for Shapiro. What happened
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to rocketman Kelly failure to lift off? My friend? It
did not, you know, Houston had a problem. We've also
got a lot of the of the the latest in
the Kamala Trump showdown. It's it's happening at at ludacrous speed.
It's going crazy here because the media is having to
formulate an entire uh an entire narrative of who Kamala
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Harris is and what she will do, while also simultaneously
propping up the Biden agenda and the narrative that he's
done a good job. Remember part of what they've been
saying for two weeks straight now, since Kamala has been
the hand picked but not by voters nominee of the
Democrat Party, Clay, that the storyline has been Biden's done
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a great job. Kamala will continue the great job that
Biden has done. When everyone is watching as their you know, Vanguard,
Charles Schwab, E Trade, et cetera. Accounts are locking up
because everyone's trying to see what's going on with the
money that they've Oh, this is four to one ks
and this is people's retirements we're talking about here. It's
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really tough to make that case. I mean, Clay, I
was only out for a couple of days, but it's
like everything's gone to hell. You know, It's like I've
showed up here, I left you in charge and there's
some you know, there were some keg stands clearly happening.
There's some red solo cups on the floor. We got
to clean up this mess of the economy and the
Biden Kamala mirage real fast.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
No doubt. And this is where I have to be honest.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
She has made this race closer already than I thought
she would in the first two weeks. And I think
there's a complicity in the media. They are her top allies.
Fifteen days now, buck She's done no interviews, no public interactions.
She has done no statements off of a teleprompter in
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fifteen days. And compare that to what the media was
demanding of Joe Biden. I think it's pretty clear what
they're going to do. They are going to send Kamala
to the basement of whatever location she is in, and
they are going to run the weekend at Bernie's two
campaign But instead of with Joe Biden, they're going to
do it with Kamala, and they're gonna hope that Trump
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self destructs, and they're going to try to make the
entire race about Trump, and they're going to try to
just glide Kamala in without having her say anything buck
She has.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
No policy positions.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Now all she's really done so far is put out
written statements saying, Hey, when I said I wanted to
ban fracking, yeah, now.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I don't want to ban fracking anymore.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
When I said I want immigrants to have complete rights
basically as Americans, yeah, I don't leave that anymore. When
I said I wanted to defund the police, I don't
think we should defund the police. They're completely putting out
statements saying that everything she said before she no longer believes,
and the media is complicitly spreading this swill. And as
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a result, she has gotten a bounce that is significant.
And I said there was no way Biden could beat Trump.
I really stuck to it. I didn't believe they could
ever run him. I think Trump would have trounced Biden.
Kamala could beat Trump, and it's scary. But everybody needs
to get ready for this. Trump's campaign needs to get
more disciplined. They need to do a better job of
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taking this case to the American public than they have
over the last two weeks, or he could lose this race.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I think that what you're seeing with Kamala is the
Democrat machine at work in a way that they could
replicate with probably any known Democrat politician at this level.
Meaning I don't think that this is a testament to
anything about Kamala Harris other than this is what generic
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democrat gets you again, Trump Joe Biden, they were able
to present not only as generic Democrat in twenty twenty,
but through a complete fabrication, really we're able to also
position him as a uniter, as somebody you could trust
because he'd just been around so long. Basically they turned
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and give them credit. I mean, it's it's total deception,
but it worked when people were scared and the media
was forcing everyone to hyperventilate more than anyone should have
over COVID and all the rest of it. When the
media was freaked out, or rather when the people were
freaked out, the media pounced and they were able to
convince people that Biden's age was an asset, meaning he's
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the old grandpa you can trust and it's fine, and
he'll hold the country you know, close in a hug
and everything. He don't want Biden holding you too close.
He's a weirdo, you know. But that was the game
they played with Kamala Harris. It's we have a black
female candidate whose name you've heard because she's the VP,
and the Democrat mission is trying to then just make
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her the candidate, I mean the president rather that is it.
They've already made her the candidate. The machine is trying
to make her president and hiding her. I think, Clay,
I have to say, if you and I were advising
her on this one or advising her campaign, I think
hiding her is a good strategy for now. I think
the more people know Kamala, the less they will like her.
(06:22):
And because it's such a short election cycle that she
has to work with, it works in her favor. Because
you can hide somebody for ninety days, and I think
they're largely going to do that. You can't really hide
them for a year.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Well, you can't hide them on the campaign trail in Iowa,
New Hampshire, and South Carolina, and voters when they met
Kamala Harris overwhelmingly did not like her. So she is
now the nominee. They've officially given her the nomination despite
the fact that no one voted for her to be president,
and I think they know that she is significantly flawed
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when it comes to basic human interaction when it comes
to communication skills. Remember, she is the least popular vice
president that has ever existed in any of our lives,
and somehow they have turned the least popular vice president
in any of our lives into a at least right now,
very popular choice.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Now.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I do think there's a sugar high associated with this,
because the primary reason Joe Biden couldn't win didn't have
anything to do with the fact that he was a
Democrat or Republican. It was just that people had decided
he was too old to be president and policies didn't
really matter, and then he confirmed those on June twenty seventh.
There's a sugar high among Democrats because I think many
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of them had accepted, oh my goodness, we're going to lose.
And then Kamala Harris is this sort of lightning bolt
that arrives out of nowhere and puts you the savior
back into the race. And so they have immediately united
behind her, just because they now have a little bit
of giddy optimism that they may be able to beat Trump.
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I think there was a resignation that was setting in
among Democrats that Trump was gonna win Buck and now
She is the new hope that is rising up to
beat the great Satan in their minds Trump. This is
where Trump has to be more disciplined, because you were
out for the nabj buck. Every time he goes and
does a hostile interview, they rip him to shreds. Kamala
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Harris hasn't done an actual hostile interview in her entire
political career. What benefit do you get at this point
for leaving your camp and going out and fighting battles.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I'm not sure there's any well. I think that also
Trump is putting the legacy of his entire political movement
on the line in a way now against Kamala that
it wasn't even against Biden. I think, if you have
Kamala Harris win this election anyway, you know what. I
(08:54):
can't even psychologically go there right now. I'm very confident
that Donald Trump is going to pull this out.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I'm not usually I'm the one who's wildly optimistic that
wants to do like a high step into the end zone.
Over the weekend, as I looked at all the data,
I am very nervous that we may totally give this
one away.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
And I'm not gonna lie. I am. I'm very apprehensive.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Here's the good news, and we're gonna take your calls
on this one. And I'm wondering if any I'm curious
if anyone who would describe themselves as a or maybe
they wouldn't describe themselves this way, but I would describe
it this way as a super trumper, meaning you knew
he was gonna win in that primary in twenty sixteen,
and you knew that he was going to beat the
(09:44):
Muller investigation, and you believe still that he won in
twenty twenty and that they're Shenanigans is what cost him
that race? Are you worried?
Speaker 4 (09:53):
You know?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
That's what that for me? Is a super Trumper? Like
you're in the elite echelon of Trump's support. Are you
concer she learned it all about how this is going
with Kamala or are you still finding yourself thinking that
Trump is gonna pull this out and you don't have
any worries about it. I'd be curious to hear from
some of our people on that specifically, so we can
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open lines up for that eight hundred and two A
two two eight A two, you know, because I also
think Clay at this stage of the game, there's they
were brought solo. There's a rebound effect, and people have
described it as a sugar high. I see it a
little bit differently. I think that that expectations had been
so dramatically lowered for Biden that it's like a springboard
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right that now it's, oh my gosh, we have this
new candidate. Kamala Harris is a deeply unimpressive person who
is absolutely not qualified to be not only president, she
wasn't qualified to be vice president. She wasn't qualified to
be a senator, in my view, as not an impressive
person at all, though there are a lot of dumb
senators to be fair, but not an impressive person. If
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she's able to in this race, it means the Republicans
have to look at what the machinery that we have
is against the machinery that they have, because it means
that any Democrat could win this race effectively. It means
they could have run anybody who's got maybe a little
bit of you know that DEI push to play the
identity politics because because Clay, when it comes to speaking, connecting,
you know, public speaking, connecting with people, authenticity, charm, you know, charisma, leadership,
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decision making, wisdom, knowledge. Kamala Harris has none of those things.
I know, none of them. So if she can win,
what it means is that we have a Republican Party.
Even with the most you know, the most charismatic and
the most sort of one man army politician we've had
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since Ronald Reagan, we can't win. We have a massive rethink.
So I'm not going there yet because I still think
Trump is gonna pull up.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
But this is good because you're usually.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
You know, I'm out here in an undisclosed location and
my freedom bunker and Clay was, you know, at the helm,
and I you know, it's good. We didn't talk about
this beforehand. I'm confident for Trump, but only if the
Trump that showed up at that Biden debate, the one
who is calm and focused and delivers when it counts.
He's still gonna make his jokes. Trump still has to
be Trump. But you know, you need the best version
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of Trump to show up for this last ninety days.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Yeah, I'll say this when we go to break. I
think since his speech at the RNC, the best Trump
has not been on the campaign trail. I thought the
first thirty minutes were very good of his speech at
the RNC. I think he needed to land the plane.
He didn't. Whatever, it's a speech. A lot of people
went to bed. But I think that from that moment,
(12:49):
I would suggest to you that the best Trump has
not been on the campaign trail. I thought he ran
a fabulous campaign even after the shooting. I thought staying
down and letting Democrats to light themselves on fire, letting
Biden light himself on fire, I thought it was incredibly
disciplined Trump. The best version of Trump has not been
on the campaign trail since the election speech that night.
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And by the way, that doesn't mean that I think
that Trump is you know, like I'm trying to criticize.
I'm just saying, like if you were an athlete, if
you were watching a season and your team didn't play
well in two games, doesn't mean that you're not still
a fan of the team. It's just like, we got
to get buckled in here, we got to get focused.
I don't think the best version of Trump has been
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out there in the public for the last sixteen eighteen days.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Lines are open, let's talk about it coming up here.
But we also have a lot more to look at
in terms of the state by state polling. Some of
the clips from kama they're circling in from over the weekend.
You know what, you guys really need to start off
your Monday. We'll come back at some point here soon
next next segment or two Kamala explaining the Internet and clouds.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Yes, you need, you need.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Not a
good day to be looking at the four oh one
k's if you're fortunate enough to have stockholders. The stock
market around the world, starting in Japan last night for
US and now in the United States, is having a
bit of a free fall as I'm speaking to you
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right now. The Dow is down two percent, nearly eight
hundred points. The S and P five hundred is down
nearly two percent as well. The Nasdaq stock market down
over two percent. This is what it sounded like this
morning as Fox Business Network Stuart Varney and Lauren Siminetti
(16:32):
react at the collapse at the opening bill.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
Listen, right from the get go with down, what is
that one thousand points on the Dow? That's two point
seven percent.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
The Dow has not been down a thousand points since
September of twenty twenty two.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
Let's get to the NAWS deck because this really is
all about big tech coming out.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
History in the making, something would call it history in
the making.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Don't say that you've never been down a thousand points ever,
not even inter day on the NAWSDAK Is that true?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
That is true? Okay?
Speaker 6 (16:59):
Down six percent right from the get go, this is heavy,
heavy set, big tech.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Here we go.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Look at them go down.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
Microsoft is down twenty bucks. That's five percent, Alphabet five percent,
Meta six percent, Amazon six percent, Apple nine percent down.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Okay, so those are all big drops. Buck my advice
all the time. I know I just played that for
many of you and you're like, oh my god, I
don't even want to check. Don't check, buy, hold, put
it away, don't allow your emotions to get a hold
of you. But this is a sign, and we'll talk
about this maybe a bit. We come back that there
are many people who now believe that a recession is
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coming and that this idea of a soft landing for
the economy after high inflation is not going to be
a reality.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
And how does this look for Kamala Harris if a
recession hits Clay. This is why never give up hope.
Even if the economy is tanking. At least Kamma might
not be president.
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Speaker 7 (18:51):
We've had ten increases in interest rates, rate rises from
just about zero to five and a half percent. I'm
not taking its tone, and it's taken this long, if
you will, to work through the full effects into the economy.
And now people are realizing, the market investors, that things
are slowing down, possibly faster than the FED had anticipated.
And as a result, and you see this jim through
(19:13):
the unemployment numbers, inflation the hard work on inflation has
been done. But the other side of that scale is
that unemployment's going up. This was entirely predictable, and yet.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
The FED didn't predict it, neither to the economists, neither
of the experts. In fact, people have been talking about
how it'll be a very strong year for the market.
I follow a lot of the talking heads and the
consensus in the financial markets too, and there weren't many folks.
I know some of them, I work with some of them,
but there weren't many folks who really saw this coming. Clay,
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you know that the big discussion has been the soft landing.
Can the FED engineer a soft landing? Well, the answer
to that is still maybe. But it's kind of like
when you're on the plane and all of a sudden,
the stewardesses look really concerned and they like run down
the aisle and the captain comes on, here's we're we're
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you know, we're turbulent. Everybody sitting on everybody. You know,
when the captain kind of speeds up because things are
sounding a little scary or feeling a little scary out there,
and you see the stewardesses run to their seats and
strap themselves in. You know, we're hearing some lightning strikes
going on out there in the in the air around us.
It's not great right now. You know, this is some
of the some of the serving trays. The food's flying
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off them. I mean, they might still land this plane,
but it is. It is getting ugly out there, and
the Fed has not a It looks like it looks
like they may have raise rates too fast and lowered
rates too slowly, which is remarkable when you think about it.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Well, it's a mess, I mean.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
And again this is why I think the Trump team
has to lead with the economy. Just think about where
we were in January of twenty twenty one, when Joe
Biden took over. We were effectively through the COVID hit,
which was a disaster. Like I'm not defending the COVID decision,
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but we had basically come through that even Blue cities
and Blue states, people were going back to work. Inflation
was I believe one point four percent, Your mortgage rates
were under three percent, The stock market had come back substantially.
We didn't need to do anything other than continue to
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send people back to work, and Joe Biden tried to
spend five trillion dollars, and he still ended up spending
what is at one point nine trillion on top of
the original trillion. They blew it in a monster way,
and Kamala, who seems to have no economic knowledge or
policy at all, advocated for the five trillion as hard
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as anyone possibly could. And that's why we're sitting here
right now. Let me lay.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Out two pathways here and you can tell me what
you think of this. First off, I want to start
with this premise, starting with the premise that David Axelrod
put out on CNN. This has cut ten because I
think this is where I think this is a reality check.
I think this is where the race really stands, which
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is Kamala Harris is new to being the nominee, did
not even go through a bruising primary or primary of
any kind correct. In fact, couldn't even make it through
really the first round in her own Democrat primary in
twenty twenty. So she is untouched by negative ads. Really,
she is not yet vetted in any meaningful way in
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the public's eye. She has been chosen for these roles, right,
she was chosen to be vice president. Now she has
been chosen to be president by party elders and the
you know the proverbial smoke filled rooms, which I guess
don't have smoke anymore, maybe vaping. So here just spitting facts. Here,
Here is David Axwrod saying it's still Trump's to lose.
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Play ten.
Speaker 8 (23:12):
You know, there's a lot of irrational exuberance on the
side of on the Democratic side of the aisle right now,
because there was despair for some period of time about
what November was going to look like. Now people feel
like there's a chance. But it is absolutely Trump's race
to lose. Right now. He is ahead, and he is
ahead most of the battleground states, they're close, they could
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be won by either candidate. I think it's a wide
open race. But Trump has the advantage right now, and
nobody should. Everybody should be sober about that. On the
Democratic side.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
I agree with this. I think it is Trump's race
to lose. I think if Trump does his if Trump
plays his game the way he should, he comes out
winning this. However, I see, this is what I wanted
to pose to you. The economy is not No one's
going to argue that things are good in this moment.
Right The economy is looking really shaky. People are talking recession.
Goldman Sachs I think is upgraded now twenty five percent
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chance of recession. I mean, all of a sudden, we're
hearing the R word recession all over again. Is that
poison for a Democrat candidate because their party is in
power play? Or is it actually unintended brilliance for the
Democrats because Biden can get blamed for this by voters
and Kamala is a Democrat who is a new way
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for them. Do you know what I mean? How does
the economy factor into this election? Because it's going to
factor into this election.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
I think it comes down to can Trump Advance stay
disciplined enough. On Friday, Buck I said to me, this
is an EBC election, and I'm going to say this
probably every year gonna get sick of it. Everybody's going
to get sick of it. And from now until election day, economy,
border crime, that's all Trump should talk about. That's all
he should talk about. That's all jd. Vance should talk about.
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And look there are a couple of side notes. Hey,
when you got men pretend to be women beating the
crap out of Olympians like that sort of cultural thing,
can dive into it. My concern is Trump has gone
into the identity politics mud, and he is now writhing
around fighting with Kamala Harris over whether she's Indian, over
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whether she's black, over who her husband slept with, over
who she's Look, these are things that I think are
important that you and I can talk about, but we're
not running for president. I think what independent voters want
is the person who's going to handle the economy, border
and crime. The best that is indisputably Trump. But if
you get into oh, what percentage is Kamala Harris black?
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Or did her husband pay for an abortion from his
nanny with his first wife and that divorce happened, those
things matter. We're going to talk about him on the show.
But if I were advising Trump and this campaign, I
would say go back to economy, border crime, almost don't
touch anything else.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
I'm concerned it's the blame for it. I mean to
my initial question, do you I agree? I agree with that?
All all you know, EBC is that what you're EBC, EBC.
Just sum it up EBC all day, every day, EBC.
But I have to ask, do you think that if
the economy really does get indisputed.
Speaker 7 (26:18):
Right.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
The Democrats have been saying that a weak economy is good. Yeah,
you can say that a weak economy is good. You
can't say that a free fall recession. People getting blasted
out of their jobs and you know, things could get
really ugly here. Who knows what's going to happen with
the market where it is? People know that's bad. Does
does the does the Democrat brand carry over? Sucks that
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Kamala who's also the vice president, I would do. It's
not like she said, It's not like she's a Democrat
picked out of obscurity or something. She's a part of
this administration. Does she get the blame for this or
are they able to blame shift it to Biden and
say Kamala, you know, is the future and she'll know
what to do. Like, what's their point? What's there a
pivot point?
Speaker 3 (26:59):
My concern is we're not even having issues based campaign
that this is a cult of Trump is hitler and
Kamala is a black woman and that's why you should
vote for I think we have basically emoticonned this erase
right now, and it's like Kamala is smiley face. Trump
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is frownie face and My concern is the smiley face
emoticon is gonna win.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
This is where I were, you know, where we being
characters in the matrix, in the politics matrix. This is
where I feel like we're not necessarily aligned or thinking
in the same way. I mean, this is like pundits
in general, right, are people who do this for a living,
like the political commentator class. I mean, if you're a
(27:48):
guy making eighty grand a year and you live in
a suburb of a mid size city in Michigan, you
know you make eighty grand a year, you live you
live in the outskirts of Lansing. Okay, I still think
that the fact that everything is really expensive and you
probably have had a bunch of illegals dumped in your
state that are showing up in your town looking for
work all of a sudden, Like, I think that still
(28:09):
matters to you a lot more so, I think to turn.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
In this is the challenge.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
I think that it matters to men, like I think
Trump's gonna win men by fifteen. But I think a
lot of women are going to buy into the girl
power Kamala abortion. Trump is a sad, mean guy, That's
what that's their game plan. That's their people been telling
me that I'm wrong, which I hate. I don't like
(28:38):
being wrong, that Kamala is more likable than Hillary, and
I really don't see it that way. But now I'm
starting to see that I might be in the minority
just as a general thing, meaning that maybe she gets
Because Hillary didn't get the girl power bump that she
needed in twenty twenty, obviously, maybe Kamala will get the
bump that she needs. That that is a concern of mind.
They have gone after jd Vance so hard on this
(29:01):
issue of the cat lady comment, and it's clearly that
has been a concerted campaign. That's not just a thing
that's been getting clicks. This has been the They're trying
to define the Trump ticket of two white dudes early
on as kind of anti female and certainly anti minority.
But that we knew that was going to happen, even
(29:23):
when Biden was the nominated. They're acting like, well, he's,
you know, so pro minority.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
So look, I'm concerned, don't I'm I'm confident, or rather
I'm optimistic for Trump. Confident might be too strong, But
this is a concerning, concerning moment in time here because
I think that in some ways, we'll know who's going
to be president based on what happens, you know, in
the next thirty to forty five days, meaning what perception
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is created now because early voting starts how.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Soon thirty days?
Speaker 1 (29:53):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
So that's buck. I'll tell you when we come back.
I'll tell you the conversation that I had last night
right after Game of Thrones. I'm trying to the new
House of the Dragon or whatever, which I like, can't
they make it as.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Good as the original Game of Thrones though, I mean,
come on, they had the they have the playbook. The
original Game of Thrones was amazing television for what it was.
This is just like it's it's good. I'm watching it too, Clay,
It's how's the Dragon? It's just like the be movie
version of it. It's just not as good.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
I like it quite a bit. But we'll talk about
this maybe later in the show.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
But was laying in bed with my wife and and
I was like, I'm like, I felt like I was
like Rachel Maddow when Trump was feeling well, doing well.
I turned to her and I said, I think I
think Kabla may win. What do we do if that happens,
and I'll tell you what that conversation was. We also
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got a bunch of you who want to weigh in.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Can I just also tell you, guys, you know we're
gonna have to get the womp womp button out for Clay.
You know, maybe because I've be get some fresh air
and sunshine out here in the middle of nowhere. I'm
doing well because Clay is glad you're taking us on
a trip to Bummerville right now.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
I am telling you what I am seeing has me
very alarmed. And look, I want everybody to get out
and vote as early as possible. Heck, I want you
to vote like Democrats, meaning you know, even if you're dead,
go vote. But man, it's gonna be a I just
I think we're headed for a slobber knocker here down
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the stretch.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
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Speaker 3 (33:02):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Well, let's
take some of your calls closed out the first hour here,
a lot of you want to weigh in, variety of
different topics so far. Sherry in Ohio? What's got for us?
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Hello, Yeah, we're here. What's up, Sherry?
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Well, when you were asking, I trust Trump with my
heart and soul, but one word came to mind about
the Democrats, and that is Fetterman.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yep, it got him elected.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
So that's where my concerns.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Buck. You, thank you for the call, Sherry. You and
I have talked about this.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Fetterman couldn't freaking I have to be careful not to curse,
couldn't speak. The worst debate performance I've ever seen in
the history of debates on television.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
He won by five.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
I've called it the Fetterman effect, and I felt a
little bad for it afterwards, just because the guy, when
Israel needed people to stand and speak the truth, was
doing that, and so I said, looks good on Israel.
And we say that when people tell you the truth,
just because they're got a D by their name doesn't
mean that we trash them or we disagree with them
out of some kind of reflex. But they were able
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to make a guy with a brain dysfunction at the time,
the senator from Pennsylvania, a critical state, which is obviously
why it looks like Kamala was picking Shapiro. You see
all the funny memes about them and our friend the
other Shapiro as the VP. That would be funny. Yes,
you know, we're in a crazy, crazy electoral cycle. Let's see,
(34:30):
we have Mike in Mississippi. What's going on, Mike, Yeah,
I guys love the show.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Independent here Biden last time, Trump this time. Hey, guys,
I just want to say, it's like we've acted like,
you know, we weren't prepared for this, or we're surprised
about Kamala. It's it's Joe two point zero here.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Ohld on, Mike, I appreciate I appreciate your analysis. Why
did you vote for Biden in twenty and why are
you back to Trump in twenty four?
Speaker 2 (34:56):
And how'd you vote in sixteen?
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Yeah, sixteen, I just left it be. I didn't do it.
Biden was kind of all the misleading stuff. I listened
to both things. You know, people are surrounded by nine
percent Trump patriot at this time. I'm one hundred percent
because I've seen the difference between last time and this time. Yea,
we got we got a double comparison right here. Get her,
challenge her to the debates. Get out there, speak about
(35:21):
you know border you know, uh, the mess ups that
they have done. Stick with that stuff. Don't fall for
the race things. Get out there, set a plan for
the future. And and and don't stand there. I don't
understand what we're doing at this point, but letting them
feed the narrative and it's not gonna work. I'm just
baffled at what we're doing. And and according to my wife,
(35:44):
here's a good one. You know, we love Trump, we
know who it is, but he's not talking to us.
He's talking to the normal independence out there. And to
turn off to a lot of the ladies, that's hearing
about how great this is and how I was told
and I'm awesome, and we all totally understand that. But
you know, instead of telling that, you know, speak about
the million people we've led across the border. That's the stuff,
(36:05):
you know that they're trying to avoid. And tamalas speaking,
you know, normally on her script. Get her out there
to work. She has to justify and speak independently, and
I have a feeling that the normal person is going
to wake up.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Well. I appreciate the eloquence of our caller there, Clay.
Can I just throw into the mix here one thing
that I'm very confident about. Trump is gonna trump, And
I'd like to say that there's advice or there's listening
to the base on the issues and you know, economy,
(36:39):
border crime. I don't know, maybe Trump will, but you know,
the bear is out doing its thing outside the cave.
Welcome in everybody. Monday edition of The Klay Travis n.
Buck Sexton Show kicks off right now now. Jones down
over one thousand points this morning, dropping almost three percent
markets worldwide. Perhaps a reckoning with a lot of the
central bank policies, including our own FED policy that has
(00:21):
been coming for a long time, obviously affecting your four
O one k, affecting your stocks, affecting the entire economy,
and with it the political race that is underway which
we're going to be diving into today. We also have
a likely vice president vice president for the Harris ticket
announcement tomorrow. Everyone's saying Shapiro, Clay, what are the better
(00:45):
betting market setting about Shapiro right now? Yeah, exactly as
we're talking right at this moment, Buck sixty seven percent
chance of Shapiro, nineteen percent Tim Waltz, and then it
drops off. Mark Kelly five percent, Andy Basheer three mayor
Pete one percent, So big favorite for Shapiro. What happened
(01:08):
to rocketman Kelly failure to lift off? My friend? It
did not, you know, Houston had a problem. We've also
got a lot of the of the the latest in
the Kamala Trump showdown. It's it's happening at at ludacrous speed.
It's going crazy here because the media is having to
formulate an entire uh an entire narrative of who Kamala
(01:31):
Harris is and what she will do, while also simultaneously
propping up the Biden agenda and the narrative that he's
done a good job. Remember part of what they've been
saying for two weeks straight now, since Kamala has been
the hand picked but not by voters nominee of the
Democrat Party, Clay, that the storyline has been Biden's done
(01:52):
a great job. Kamala will continue the great job that
Biden has done. When everyone is watching as their you know, Vanguard,
Charles Schwab, E Trade, et cetera. Accounts are locking up
because everyone's trying to see what's going on with the
money that they've Oh, this is four to one ks
and this is people's retirements we're talking about here. It's
(02:14):
really tough to make that case. I mean, Clay, I
was only out for a couple of days, but it's
like everything's gone to hell. You know, It's like I've
showed up here, I left you in charge and there's
some you know, there were some keg stands clearly happening.
There's some red solo cups on the floor. We got
to clean up this mess of the economy and the
Biden Kamala mirage real fast.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
No doubt. And this is where I have to be honest.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
She has made this race closer already than I thought
she would in the first two weeks. And I think
there's a complicity in the media. They are her top allies.
Fifteen days now, buck She's done no interviews, no public interactions.
She has done no statements off of a teleprompter in
(03:01):
fifteen days. And compare that to what the media was
demanding of Joe Biden. I think it's pretty clear what
they're going to do. They are going to send Kamala
to the basement of whatever location she is in, and
they are going to run the weekend at Bernie's two
campaign But instead of with Joe Biden, they're going to
do it with Kamala, and they're gonna hope that Trump
(03:23):
self destructs, and they're going to try to make the
entire race about Trump, and they're going to try to
just glide Kamala in without having her say anything buck
She has.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
No policy positions.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Now all she's really done so far is put out
written statements saying, Hey, when I said I wanted to
ban fracking, yeah, now.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I don't want to ban fracking anymore.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
When I said I want immigrants to have complete rights
basically as Americans, yeah, I don't leave that anymore. When
I said I wanted to defund the police, I don't
think we should defund the police. They're completely putting out
statements saying that everything she said before she no longer believes,
and the media is complicitly spreading this swill. And as
(04:08):
a result, she has gotten a bounce that is significant.
And I said there was no way Biden could beat Trump.
I really stuck to it. I didn't believe they could
ever run him. I think Trump would have trounced Biden.
Kamala could beat Trump, and it's scary. But everybody needs
to get ready for this. Trump's campaign needs to get
more disciplined. They need to do a better job of
(04:30):
taking this case to the American public than they have
over the last two weeks, or he could lose this race.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I think that what you're seeing with Kamala is the
Democrat machine at work in a way that they could
replicate with probably any known Democrat politician at this level.
Meaning I don't think that this is a testament to
anything about Kamala Harris other than this is what generic
(04:58):
democrat gets you again, Trump Joe Biden, they were able
to present not only as generic Democrat in twenty twenty,
but through a complete fabrication, really we're able to also
position him as a uniter, as somebody you could trust
because he'd just been around so long. Basically they turned
(05:18):
and give them credit. I mean, it's it's total deception,
but it worked when people were scared and the media
was forcing everyone to hyperventilate more than anyone should have
over COVID and all the rest of it. When the
media was freaked out, or rather when the people were
freaked out, the media pounced and they were able to
convince people that Biden's age was an asset, meaning he's
(05:40):
the old grandpa you can trust and it's fine, and
he'll hold the country you know, close in a hug
and everything. He don't want Biden holding you too close.
He's a weirdo, you know. But that was the game
they played with Kamala Harris. It's we have a black
female candidate whose name you've heard because she's the VP,
and the Democrat mission is trying to then just make
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her the candidate, I mean the president rather that is it.
They've already made her the candidate. The machine is trying
to make her president and hiding her. I think, Clay,
I have to say, if you and I were advising
her on this one or advising her campaign, I think
hiding her is a good strategy for now. I think
the more people know Kamala, the less they will like her.
(06:22):
And because it's such a short election cycle that she
has to work with, it works in her favor. Because
you can hide somebody for ninety days, and I think
they're largely going to do that. You can't really hide
them for a year.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Well, you can't hide them on the campaign trail in Iowa,
New Hampshire, and South Carolina, and voters when they met
Kamala Harris overwhelmingly did not like her. So she is
now the nominee. They've officially given her the nomination despite
the fact that no one voted for her to be president,
and I think they know that she is significantly flawed
(06:56):
when it comes to basic human interaction when it comes
to communication skills. Remember, she is the least popular vice
president that has ever existed in any of our lives,
and somehow they have turned the least popular vice president
in any of our lives into a at least right now,
very popular choice.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Now.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I do think there's a sugar high associated with this,
because the primary reason Joe Biden couldn't win didn't have
anything to do with the fact that he was a
Democrat or Republican. It was just that people had decided
he was too old to be president and policies didn't
really matter, and then he confirmed those on June twenty seventh.
There's a sugar high among Democrats because I think many
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of them had accepted, oh my goodness, we're going to lose.
And then Kamala Harris is this sort of lightning bolt
that arrives out of nowhere and puts you the savior
back into the race. And so they have immediately united
behind her, just because they now have a little bit
of giddy optimism that they may be able to beat Trump.
(07:58):
I think there was a resignation that was setting in
among Democrats that Trump was gonna win Buck and now
She is the new hope that is rising up to
beat the great Satan in their minds Trump. This is
where Trump has to be more disciplined, because you were
out for the nabj buck. Every time he goes and
does a hostile interview, they rip him to shreds. Kamala
(08:20):
Harris hasn't done an actual hostile interview in her entire
political career. What benefit do you get at this point
for leaving your camp and going out and fighting battles.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I'm not sure there's any well. I think that also
Trump is putting the legacy of his entire political movement
on the line in a way now against Kamala that
it wasn't even against Biden. I think, if you have
Kamala Harris win this election anyway, you know what. I
(08:54):
can't even psychologically go there right now. I'm very confident
that Donald Trump is going to pull this out.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I'm not usually I'm the one who's wildly optimistic that
wants to do like a high step into the end zone.
Over the weekend, as I looked at all the data,
I am very nervous that we may totally give this
one away.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
And I'm not gonna lie. I am. I'm very apprehensive.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Here's the good news, and we're gonna take your calls
on this one. And I'm wondering if any I'm curious
if anyone who would describe themselves as a or maybe
they wouldn't describe themselves this way, but I would describe
it this way as a super trumper, meaning you knew
he was gonna win in that primary in twenty sixteen,
and you knew that he was going to beat the
(09:44):
Muller investigation, and you believe still that he won in
twenty twenty and that they're Shenanigans is what cost him
that race? Are you worried?
Speaker 4 (09:53):
You know?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
That's what that for me? Is a super Trumper? Like
you're in the elite echelon of Trump's support. Are you
concer she learned it all about how this is going
with Kamala or are you still finding yourself thinking that
Trump is gonna pull this out and you don't have
any worries about it. I'd be curious to hear from
some of our people on that specifically, so we can
(10:14):
open lines up for that eight hundred and two A
two two eight A two, you know, because I also
think Clay at this stage of the game, there's they
were brought solo. There's a rebound effect, and people have
described it as a sugar high. I see it a
little bit differently. I think that that expectations had been
so dramatically lowered for Biden that it's like a springboard
(10:37):
right that now it's, oh my gosh, we have this
new candidate. Kamala Harris is a deeply unimpressive person who
is absolutely not qualified to be not only president, she
wasn't qualified to be vice president. She wasn't qualified to
be a senator, in my view, as not an impressive
person at all, though there are a lot of dumb
senators to be fair, but not an impressive person. If
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she's able to in this race, it means the Republicans
have to look at what the machinery that we have
is against the machinery that they have, because it means
that any Democrat could win this race effectively. It means
they could have run anybody who's got maybe a little
bit of you know that DEI push to play the
identity politics because because Clay, when it comes to speaking, connecting,
you know, public speaking, connecting with people, authenticity, charm, you know, charisma, leadership,
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decision making, wisdom, knowledge. Kamala Harris has none of those things.
I know, none of them. So if she can win,
what it means is that we have a Republican Party.
Even with the most you know, the most charismatic and
the most sort of one man army politician we've had
(11:48):
since Ronald Reagan, we can't win. We have a massive rethink.
So I'm not going there yet because I still think
Trump is gonna pull up.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
But this is good because you're usually.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
You know, I'm out here in an undisclosed location and
my freedom bunker and Clay was, you know, at the helm,
and I you know, it's good. We didn't talk about
this beforehand. I'm confident for Trump, but only if the
Trump that showed up at that Biden debate, the one
who is calm and focused and delivers when it counts.
He's still gonna make his jokes. Trump still has to
be Trump. But you know, you need the best version
(12:23):
of Trump to show up for this last ninety days.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Yeah, I'll say this when we go to break. I
think since his speech at the RNC, the best Trump
has not been on the campaign trail. I thought the
first thirty minutes were very good of his speech at
the RNC. I think he needed to land the plane.
He didn't. Whatever, it's a speech. A lot of people
went to bed. But I think that from that moment,
(12:49):
I would suggest to you that the best Trump has
not been on the campaign trail. I thought he ran
a fabulous campaign even after the shooting. I thought staying
down and letting Democrats to light themselves on fire, letting
Biden light himself on fire, I thought it was incredibly
disciplined Trump. The best version of Trump has not been
on the campaign trail since the election speech that night.
(13:13):
And by the way, that doesn't mean that I think
that Trump is you know, like I'm trying to criticize.
I'm just saying, like if you were an athlete, if
you were watching a season and your team didn't play
well in two games, doesn't mean that you're not still
a fan of the team. It's just like, we got
to get buckled in here, we got to get focused.
I don't think the best version of Trump has been
(13:34):
out there in the public for the last sixteen eighteen days.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Lines are open, let's talk about it coming up here.
But we also have a lot more to look at
in terms of the state by state polling. Some of
the clips from kama they're circling in from over the weekend.
You know what, you guys really need to start off
your Monday. We'll come back at some point here soon
next next segment or two Kamala explaining the Internet and clouds.
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Yes, you need, you need.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Not a
good day to be looking at the four oh one
k's if you're fortunate enough to have stockholders. The stock
market around the world, starting in Japan last night for
US and now in the United States, is having a
bit of a free fall as I'm speaking to you
(16:11):
right now. The Dow is down two percent, nearly eight
hundred points. The S and P five hundred is down
nearly two percent as well. The Nasdaq stock market down
over two percent. This is what it sounded like this
morning as Fox Business Network Stuart Varney and Lauren Siminetti
(16:32):
react at the collapse at the opening bill.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
Listen, right from the get go with down, what is
that one thousand points on the Dow? That's two point
seven percent.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
The Dow has not been down a thousand points since
September of twenty twenty two.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
Let's get to the NAWS deck because this really is
all about big tech coming out.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
History in the making, something would call it history in
the making.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Don't say that you've never been down a thousand points ever,
not even inter day on the NAWSDAK Is that true?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
That is true? Okay?
Speaker 6 (16:59):
Down six percent right from the get go, this is heavy,
heavy set, big tech.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Here we go.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Look at them go down.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
Microsoft is down twenty bucks. That's five percent, Alphabet five percent,
Meta six percent, Amazon six percent, Apple nine percent down.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Okay, so those are all big drops. Buck my advice
all the time. I know I just played that for
many of you and you're like, oh my god, I
don't even want to check. Don't check, buy, hold, put
it away, don't allow your emotions to get a hold
of you. But this is a sign, and we'll talk
about this maybe a bit. We come back that there
are many people who now believe that a recession is
(17:36):
coming and that this idea of a soft landing for
the economy after high inflation is not going to be
a reality.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
And how does this look for Kamala Harris if a
recession hits Clay. This is why never give up hope.
Even if the economy is tanking. At least Kamma might
not be president.
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Speaker 7 (18:51):
We've had ten increases in interest rates, rate rises from
just about zero to five and a half percent. I'm
not taking its tone, and it's taken this long, if
you will, to work through the full effects into the economy.
And now people are realizing, the market investors, that things
are slowing down, possibly faster than the FED had anticipated.
And as a result, and you see this jim through
(19:13):
the unemployment numbers, inflation the hard work on inflation has
been done. But the other side of that scale is
that unemployment's going up. This was entirely predictable, and yet.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
The FED didn't predict it, neither to the economists, neither
of the experts. In fact, people have been talking about
how it'll be a very strong year for the market.
I follow a lot of the talking heads and the
consensus in the financial markets too, and there weren't many folks.
I know some of them, I work with some of them,
but there weren't many folks who really saw this coming. Clay,
(19:49):
you know that the big discussion has been the soft landing.
Can the FED engineer a soft landing? Well, the answer
to that is still maybe. But it's kind of like
when you're on the plane and all of a sudden,
the stewardesses look really concerned and they like run down
the aisle and the captain comes on, here's we're we're
(20:10):
you know, we're turbulent. Everybody sitting on everybody. You know,
when the captain kind of speeds up because things are
sounding a little scary or feeling a little scary out there,
and you see the stewardesses run to their seats and
strap themselves in. You know, we're hearing some lightning strikes
going on out there in the in the air around us.
It's not great right now. You know, this is some
of the some of the serving trays. The food's flying
(20:32):
off them. I mean, they might still land this plane,
but it is. It is getting ugly out there, and
the Fed has not a It looks like it looks
like they may have raise rates too fast and lowered
rates too slowly, which is remarkable when you think about it.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Well, it's a mess, I mean.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
And again this is why I think the Trump team
has to lead with the economy. Just think about where
we were in January of twenty twenty one, when Joe
Biden took over. We were effectively through the COVID hit,
which was a disaster. Like I'm not defending the COVID decision,
(21:15):
but we had basically come through that even Blue cities
and Blue states, people were going back to work. Inflation
was I believe one point four percent, Your mortgage rates
were under three percent, The stock market had come back substantially.
We didn't need to do anything other than continue to
(21:40):
send people back to work, and Joe Biden tried to
spend five trillion dollars, and he still ended up spending
what is at one point nine trillion on top of
the original trillion. They blew it in a monster way,
and Kamala, who seems to have no economic knowledge or
policy at all, advocated for the five trillion as hard
(22:01):
as anyone possibly could. And that's why we're sitting here
right now. Let me lay.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Out two pathways here and you can tell me what
you think of this. First off, I want to start
with this premise, starting with the premise that David Axelrod
put out on CNN. This has cut ten because I
think this is where I think this is a reality check.
I think this is where the race really stands, which
(22:27):
is Kamala Harris is new to being the nominee, did
not even go through a bruising primary or primary of
any kind correct. In fact, couldn't even make it through
really the first round in her own Democrat primary in
twenty twenty. So she is untouched by negative ads. Really,
she is not yet vetted in any meaningful way in
(22:49):
the public's eye. She has been chosen for these roles, right,
she was chosen to be vice president. Now she has
been chosen to be president by party elders and the
you know the proverbial smoke filled rooms, which I guess
don't have smoke anymore, maybe vaping. So here just spitting facts. Here,
Here is David Axwrod saying it's still Trump's to lose.
(23:11):
Play ten.
Speaker 8 (23:12):
You know, there's a lot of irrational exuberance on the
side of on the Democratic side of the aisle right now,
because there was despair for some period of time about
what November was going to look like. Now people feel
like there's a chance. But it is absolutely Trump's race
to lose. Right now. He is ahead, and he is
ahead most of the battleground states, they're close, they could
(23:34):
be won by either candidate. I think it's a wide
open race. But Trump has the advantage right now, and
nobody should. Everybody should be sober about that. On the
Democratic side.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
I agree with this. I think it is Trump's race
to lose. I think if Trump does his if Trump
plays his game the way he should, he comes out
winning this. However, I see, this is what I wanted
to pose to you. The economy is not No one's
going to argue that things are good in this moment.
Right The economy is looking really shaky. People are talking recession.
Goldman Sachs I think is upgraded now twenty five percent
(24:07):
chance of recession. I mean, all of a sudden, we're
hearing the R word recession all over again. Is that
poison for a Democrat candidate because their party is in
power play? Or is it actually unintended brilliance for the
Democrats because Biden can get blamed for this by voters
and Kamala is a Democrat who is a new way
(24:29):
for them. Do you know what I mean? How does
the economy factor into this election? Because it's going to
factor into this election.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
I think it comes down to can Trump Advance stay
disciplined enough. On Friday, Buck I said to me, this
is an EBC election, and I'm going to say this
probably every year gonna get sick of it. Everybody's going
to get sick of it. And from now until election day, economy,
border crime, that's all Trump should talk about. That's all
he should talk about. That's all jd. Vance should talk about.
(24:56):
And look there are a couple of side notes. Hey,
when you got men pretend to be women beating the
crap out of Olympians like that sort of cultural thing,
can dive into it. My concern is Trump has gone
into the identity politics mud, and he is now writhing
around fighting with Kamala Harris over whether she's Indian, over
(25:18):
whether she's black, over who her husband slept with, over
who she's Look, these are things that I think are
important that you and I can talk about, but we're
not running for president. I think what independent voters want
is the person who's going to handle the economy, border
and crime. The best that is indisputably Trump. But if
you get into oh, what percentage is Kamala Harris black?
(25:41):
Or did her husband pay for an abortion from his
nanny with his first wife and that divorce happened, those
things matter. We're going to talk about him on the show.
But if I were advising Trump and this campaign, I
would say go back to economy, border crime, almost don't
touch anything else.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
I'm concerned it's the blame for it. I mean to
my initial question, do you I agree? I agree with that?
All all you know, EBC is that what you're EBC, EBC.
Just sum it up EBC all day, every day, EBC.
But I have to ask, do you think that if
the economy really does get indisputed.
Speaker 7 (26:18):
Right.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
The Democrats have been saying that a weak economy is good. Yeah,
you can say that a weak economy is good. You
can't say that a free fall recession. People getting blasted
out of their jobs and you know, things could get
really ugly here. Who knows what's going to happen with
the market where it is? People know that's bad. Does
does the does the Democrat brand carry over? Sucks that
(26:41):
Kamala who's also the vice president, I would do. It's
not like she said, It's not like she's a Democrat
picked out of obscurity or something. She's a part of
this administration. Does she get the blame for this or
are they able to blame shift it to Biden and
say Kamala, you know, is the future and she'll know
what to do. Like, what's their point? What's there a
pivot point?
Speaker 3 (26:59):
My concern is we're not even having issues based campaign
that this is a cult of Trump is hitler and
Kamala is a black woman and that's why you should
vote for I think we have basically emoticonned this erase
right now, and it's like Kamala is smiley face. Trump
(27:21):
is frownie face and My concern is the smiley face
emoticon is gonna win.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
This is where I were, you know, where we being
characters in the matrix, in the politics matrix. This is
where I feel like we're not necessarily aligned or thinking
in the same way. I mean, this is like pundits
in general, right, are people who do this for a living,
like the political commentator class. I mean, if you're a
(27:48):
guy making eighty grand a year and you live in
a suburb of a mid size city in Michigan, you
know you make eighty grand a year, you live you
live in the outskirts of Lansing. Okay, I still think
that the fact that everything is really expensive and you
probably have had a bunch of illegals dumped in your
state that are showing up in your town looking for
work all of a sudden, Like, I think that still
(28:09):
matters to you a lot more so, I think to turn.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
In this is the challenge.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
I think that it matters to men, like I think
Trump's gonna win men by fifteen. But I think a
lot of women are going to buy into the girl
power Kamala abortion. Trump is a sad, mean guy, That's
what that's their game plan. That's their people been telling
me that I'm wrong, which I hate. I don't like
(28:38):
being wrong, that Kamala is more likable than Hillary, and
I really don't see it that way. But now I'm
starting to see that I might be in the minority
just as a general thing, meaning that maybe she gets
Because Hillary didn't get the girl power bump that she
needed in twenty twenty, obviously, maybe Kamala will get the
bump that she needs. That that is a concern of mind.
They have gone after jd Vance so hard on this
(29:01):
issue of the cat lady comment, and it's clearly that
has been a concerted campaign. That's not just a thing
that's been getting clicks. This has been the They're trying
to define the Trump ticket of two white dudes early
on as kind of anti female and certainly anti minority.
But that we knew that was going to happen, even
(29:23):
when Biden was the nominated. They're acting like, well, he's,
you know, so pro minority.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
So look, I'm concerned, don't I'm I'm confident, or rather
I'm optimistic for Trump. Confident might be too strong, But
this is a concerning, concerning moment in time here because
I think that in some ways, we'll know who's going
to be president based on what happens, you know, in
the next thirty to forty five days, meaning what perception
(29:48):
is created now because early voting starts how.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Soon thirty days?
Speaker 1 (29:53):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
So that's buck. I'll tell you when we come back.
I'll tell you the conversation that I had last night
right after Game of Thrones. I'm trying to the new
House of the Dragon or whatever, which I like, can't
they make it as.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Good as the original Game of Thrones though, I mean,
come on, they had the they have the playbook. The
original Game of Thrones was amazing television for what it was.
This is just like it's it's good. I'm watching it too, Clay,
It's how's the Dragon? It's just like the be movie
version of it. It's just not as good.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
I like it quite a bit. But we'll talk about
this maybe later in the show.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
But was laying in bed with my wife and and
I was like, I'm like, I felt like I was
like Rachel Maddow when Trump was feeling well, doing well.
I turned to her and I said, I think I
think Kabla may win. What do we do if that happens,
and I'll tell you what that conversation was. We also
(30:47):
got a bunch of you who want to weigh in.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Can I just also tell you, guys, you know we're
gonna have to get the womp womp button out for Clay.
You know, maybe because I've be get some fresh air
and sunshine out here in the middle of nowhere. I'm
doing well because Clay is glad you're taking us on
a trip to Bummerville right now.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
I am telling you what I am seeing has me
very alarmed. And look, I want everybody to get out
and vote as early as possible. Heck, I want you
to vote like Democrats, meaning you know, even if you're dead,
go vote. But man, it's gonna be a I just
I think we're headed for a slobber knocker here down
(31:23):
the stretch.
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Speaker 3 (33:02):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Well, let's
take some of your calls closed out the first hour here,
a lot of you want to weigh in, variety of
different topics so far. Sherry in Ohio? What's got for us?
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Hello, Yeah, we're here. What's up, Sherry?
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Well, when you were asking, I trust Trump with my
heart and soul, but one word came to mind about
the Democrats, and that is Fetterman.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yep, it got him elected.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
So that's where my concerns.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Buck. You, thank you for the call, Sherry. You and
I have talked about this.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Fetterman couldn't freaking I have to be careful not to curse,
couldn't speak. The worst debate performance I've ever seen in
the history of debates on television.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
He won by five.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
I've called it the Fetterman effect, and I felt a
little bad for it afterwards, just because the guy, when
Israel needed people to stand and speak the truth, was
doing that, and so I said, looks good on Israel.
And we say that when people tell you the truth,
just because they're got a D by their name doesn't
mean that we trash them or we disagree with them
out of some kind of reflex. But they were able
(34:09):
to make a guy with a brain dysfunction at the time,
the senator from Pennsylvania, a critical state, which is obviously
why it looks like Kamala was picking Shapiro. You see
all the funny memes about them and our friend the
other Shapiro as the VP. That would be funny. Yes,
you know, we're in a crazy, crazy electoral cycle. Let's see,
(34:30):
we have Mike in Mississippi. What's going on, Mike, Yeah,
I guys love the show.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Independent here Biden last time, Trump this time. Hey, guys,
I just want to say, it's like we've acted like,
you know, we weren't prepared for this, or we're surprised
about Kamala. It's it's Joe two point zero here.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Ohld on, Mike, I appreciate I appreciate your analysis. Why
did you vote for Biden in twenty and why are
you back to Trump in twenty four?
Speaker 2 (34:56):
And how'd you vote in sixteen?
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Yeah, sixteen, I just left it be. I didn't do it.
Biden was kind of all the misleading stuff. I listened
to both things. You know, people are surrounded by nine
percent Trump patriot at this time. I'm one hundred percent
because I've seen the difference between last time and this time. Yea,
we got we got a double comparison right here. Get her,
challenge her to the debates. Get out there, speak about
(35:21):
you know border you know, uh, the mess ups that
they have done. Stick with that stuff. Don't fall for
the race things. Get out there, set a plan for
the future. And and and don't stand there. I don't
understand what we're doing at this point, but letting them
feed the narrative and it's not gonna work. I'm just
baffled at what we're doing. And and according to my wife,
(35:44):
here's a good one. You know, we love Trump, we
know who it is, but he's not talking to us.
He's talking to the normal independence out there. And to
turn off to a lot of the ladies, that's hearing
about how great this is and how I was told
and I'm awesome, and we all totally understand that. But
you know, instead of telling that, you know, speak about
the million people we've led across the border. That's the stuff,
(36:05):
you know that they're trying to avoid. And tamalas speaking,
you know, normally on her script. Get her out there
to work. She has to justify and speak independently, and
I have a feeling that the normal person is going
to wake up.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Well. I appreciate the eloquence of our caller there, Clay.
Can I just throw into the mix here one thing
that I'm very confident about. Trump is gonna trump, And
I'd like to say that there's advice or there's listening
to the base on the issues and you know, economy,
(36:39):
border crime. I don't know, maybe Trump will, but you know,
the bear is out doing its thing outside the cave.
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