September 4, 2025 • 37 mins
In Hour 1 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, the hosts dive deep into the cultural and political pulse of America, emphasizing the ongoing shift toward traditional values and conservative resurgence. The hour opens with Clay highlighting the record-breaking ratings of football and the success of American Eagle’s Sydney Sweeney ad campaign, which he views as emblematic of a broader cultural pendulum swinging back toward sanity, beauty, and Americana. This cultural shift, he argues, is closely tied to the popularity of President Donald Trump and a rejection of progressive narratives.
The hosts explore the impact of woke advertising agencies, particularly those on Madison Avenue, which they claim have pushed ideologically driven campaigns that alienate mainstream consumers. They cite examples like Bud Light and Cracker Barrel, arguing that conservative consumers are now influencing corporate decisions by voting with their wallets. The success of campaigns featuring traditional beauty and sports is seen as a rejection of androgynous and politically charged marketing.
Clay and Buck also discuss the strategic importance of winning the culture war, asserting that cultural victories are more impactful than policy debates. They call for continued pressure on corporations to align with conservative values and celebrate companies that do so, believing success will breed imitation.
The conversation shifts to crime and public safety, with a focus on urban violence and the Trump administration’s tough-on-crime stance. A poignant clip from a Chicago grandmother underscores the desperation felt in high-crime neighborhoods and the desire for increased law enforcement presence. The hosts criticize progressive leaders for failing to protect vulnerable communities and highlight the disconnect between elite rhetoric and everyday realities.
Body cameras are praised for providing transparency and protecting police officers from false accusations. The hosts argue that footage often reveals restraint and professionalism in law enforcement, countering mainstream media narratives. They also discuss the psychological toll of police work and the importance of understanding the realities officers face.
Toward the end of the hour, Clay and Buck address a controversial report suggesting the Trump administration is considering banning gun ownership for transgender individuals, citing mental health concerns. They acknowledge the complexity of the issue, balancing Second Amendment rights with public safety, and note the political dilemma this poses for Democrats who advocate both gun control and transgender rights.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wel come in the Thursday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.
(00:04):
I don't know if Buck knows this, but the NFL
is back and a lot of you are going to
be watching tonight. A lot of you watched the Texas
and Ohio State game. Buck. I don't know if this
is a good or bad thing for you, but football
is setting all time record ratings, the likes of which
have never been seen before. And I've got a theory
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on what it represents. And it ties in with another
fun story that I thought we could jump into here,
and it ties in with the cultural pendulum having swung
in a massive direction back to sanity. And I think
you have to give Donald Trump a lot of credit
for this, but I think he is symptomatic of where
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the country is moving. And I've got a bunch of
takes on this as the data comes out, let me
give you an idea of where we're headed. By the way,
in the third hour, We've got a couple of fun
gets for you. Katie Miller, she has got a brand
new podcast. She is interviewing a lot of people. She
was Elon Musk's top assistant in the White House. She
is the wife of Stephen Miller, who many of you
(01:12):
have heard on this program for a very long time,
among the most influential advisors in the White House. Deputy
chief of Staff, I think is his official title, beneath
Susie Wiles. She is going to be on with us
in the third hour to talk about some of these
cultural trends two thirty part of the Clay and Buck podcast.
Network doctor Nicole Safire, many of you obviously see her
(01:34):
on Fox News on a regular basis as well. She
will join us. So that has all come in the
third hour. But this morning, Buck, as I was getting
ready for the show, as I was walking my fifth
grader to school, as I do most mornings, the stock
market opened, I looked down at my phone. I knew
it was going to be a big pop out of
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the gate. But American Eagle stuff for those of you
who saw the Sydney Sweeney advertisements and just said, you
know what, I think, A pretty girl in jeans and
a company that is not apologizing for it is likely
to do well. Last night, American Eagle said their Sydney
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Sweeney ad campaign is so successful that they are now
increasing their earnings expectations and their profit expectations, and the
stock as I speak to you all today is up
thirty two and a half percent. Today alone, the stock
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up four and a half dollars. So if you just
heard us talking about this advertisement, if you just saw
them talking about it on Fox News, and you thought
to yourself, you know what, a pretty girl in jeans
seems like a pretty good idea. And then as you
saw all the con traversy stirred up on the left,
(03:02):
people saying, oh, this is eugenics. Maybe we can go
back and pull the ABC Good Morning America story where
they put on the expert to say, oh, this is
very troubling. This is calling a blonde hair, blue eyed
girl saying she has good genes as a punt on
J E A N S G E N E s
(03:23):
A clear double entendre. There, if you thought this is
all ridiculous, this is going to work. I give credit
to American Eagle. They didn't run and hide. I know
because my grandma, grandma of my kids, My mom took
a picture of my son at back to school season
standing in front of a Sidney Sweeney ad. I know
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that even grandmas were aware of this ad campaign, and
maybe some of you out there. You bought your kids
and your grandkids American eagle gear just to make a
statement on this buck. I do think that this is
a sign of the culture shift having occurred in a
big way. I think the popularity of football going through
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the roof ratings wise, I think it's directly connected to
this pretty girls sports. It's all coming back together again.
It never left popularity, but they wanted to tell us
that fat androgynist model is going to sell lingerie. Guess
what America is not crazy? People like football, they like
pretty girls, and my goodness, you could have made a
(04:30):
lot of money by betting on both.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Well.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I want to find out what the next company is
that plans to just do an old school all Americana
good feeling at I mean, it seems like a you know,
Clay As you know, we've talked about marketing execs. Madison
Avenue ad execs are among the most woke as a profession,
(04:53):
most woke individuals you'll find anywhere. I mean, they're really
up there with like Broadway choreographers in terms of their politics,
and they are being in some other planet. And I
think because of America's overall prosperity, the dominance of many
American companies.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
They've been able to.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Get away with their ideological decisions, ideologically based decisions instead
of what's based the company for a long time. That
perhaps is in the early stages of changing.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
We shall see.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
I will say I haven't seen a change in the
advertising kind of companies. I should say the kind of
companies advertising and conservative media haven't seen that happen yet.
We were hearing, you know, early rumbles that this may
go on, and now I think there's a little more
of a wait and see Trump's first year. Let's see
if he stays focused and stays on it. But I
(05:44):
think that consumers and the American people need to continue
to push and that just means be vocal about your
preferences and put your dollars where your heart is. Actually
make decisions based upon where where companies align with your values.
And in some cases it's just fun and making America
and wanting to sell a good product that can align
with your values. It doesn't have to be you know,
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everything is draped in an American flag and talks about
defeating a Communists.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Although that's fine too, but just here trying to use
the old the oldest.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Trick in the marketing book, a beautiful woman selling a
product to people that they will like. It turns out
that still works if you're willing to do it. It
certainly works better than a three hundred pound androgynous purple
hair ear plugged.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
You know, whatever we're dealing with, it's crazy. I do
think that the retreat that you saw from Cracker Barrel.
And this is where the impact of bud Light really
comes in, because I've heard so many people out there.
They get sometimes upset when we talk about culture, not
just on this program, but on all programs, and they're like,
(06:53):
tell me more about the tax plan for small businesses.
And I'm like, okay, yeah, I mean, I'm in favor
of lower taxes all these things. But culture is how
you win. I'm sorry, culture, culture, culture, the older I
get in all facets. Your company's culture is how you
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win your team, both as a actual athletic team and
just the team around you. Your family. Culture is how
you win culture. Culture, culture, and you have to win culture.
And what I am seeing right now is Buck's point.
I told you guys this about fan duel yesterday, and
(07:36):
I got a lot of reaction to it. I don't
think most people outside of media understand that the advertising
agencies are the wokest part of American life, and they
are the bottleneck that is putting all this ridiculousness. I
would argue a lot of it is filth out into
the larger cultural arena because they control so much of
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the access to the marketplace, and they were the ones
pushing all this androgynous models, all this hey being three
hundred and fifty pounds, that's how we should sell athletic gear. Hey,
let's put an actual man in a Nike sports bra
and let's say, hey, girls go buy Nike sports bras
to work out in. I mean, these are the ads
(08:21):
that they were putting in. They're the reason bud Light
put this trans influencer on a can in the first place.
We have to destroy them. We have to destroy them.
And I understand there's a lot of cowardice out there,
but that's how you win culture. That is how you
go back to some form of normalcy in American life.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
And I think that it's incumbent upon everybody to remember
this as they're making their decisions. Uh. And you know,
we talked about Crockett coffee here on the show and
how we're already you know, some of you listen to
Joe PAGs. Joe PAGs are selling Crockett coffee and Ben
Ferguson is selling Crocket coffee. You know, we're putting money
into the broader conservative of media economy because Clay and
(09:02):
I remember what it was like. I remember the early days.
Sponsors that would come on you have the same thing.
Sponsors that would stand with you. They felt like family.
And that's one of the reasons why we're so attached
to many of our longtime sponsors here on this show,
because they're with us shoulder to shoulder. Yeah, they're trying
to offer up great products to all of you, but
they make a be very clear about this, and I
(09:23):
don't ever want to make it feel like this is
something we don't talk about. They make every sponsor on
this and other conservative programs out there, they make a
decision to stand with you, all of you and your
values because there are a lot of companies out there
that we would make a ton of money for by
just telling you about their great products. And they're like,
(09:43):
I'm sorry, have you heard what Klay Travis says about
trans guys playing on women's field hockey. Have you heard
what Buck Sexton said about COVID lockdowns and fauci And
I'm that is the God's honest truth. That is exactly
what goes on.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
This is one where strategically the left understands how to
win culture better they created And again we're taking you
into the weeds a little bit, but I think it's
important for you guys to understand it, and certainly Rush
lived through it because some of the creation of these
groups were designed to try to destroy Rush's show. As
many of you well remember, the left created entire companies
(10:24):
that they're All they did was reach out to big
brand advertisers and say, are you sure you want to
be affiliated with this conservative by the way, very broadly
defined conservative. Because I did a sports talk show and
I had FanDuel cancel on me over saying men can't
(10:45):
be in women's sports. I mean, how many sports gamblers
do you think in America believe that men should be
able to compete in women's sports?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
I generally don't think the guys we were paying really
close attention to which ponies gonna come in first, or
which touchdown is going to be the game winner? Sitting
there chopping their cigars, like, you know, what we really
need more future is female.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
T shirts and by the way, also beer companies. I mean,
this is the Cracker Barrel's decision writ large, and I
think a lot of these companies are now going to
start firing some of these marketing agencies, but they're the
ones with the choke hold on culture. You need to
see the Sydney Sweeney ad campaign work because cowardice is
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common and most marketers are not particularly smart, and they
follow whichever direction they're led. And if they're told put
fat chicks into sports bras or put dudes with penises
into sports bras to sell women's athletic gear, they'll do
it because they're cowards and that's what they were told.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
And you see in the case of the Cracker Barrel
and all a Cracker Barel situation. I just want to
say this too, for I've been reading conservative media and
I've doing all this stuff now since I was in
high school.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
So we're going on thirty thirty years of.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Seeing what the sponsors are, seeing what the climate is,
and how advertisers and corporations treat anything that half the
country a little niche market own as half the country
fully endorses and supports, and so there is a sense
of a I don't know if it's a renaissance, it's
certainly a turning of the tide. There is a sense
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that things now under this Trump administration are better than
they have ever been in this regard. There's still a
lot of work to be done, though, because it's crazy
and you see a lot of these shows Clay after
the Trump election, after Trump's election win that have been canceled.
A lot of these programs that have they were being
propped up by people and companies selling.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Other stuff to you.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Right, so it's like the corporation is making money selling
you toaster ovens or whatever, and then people who are
in a media subsidiary that the corporation owns are able
to write check that are subsidized by the toaster ovens
that you don't realize are actually paying the bills so
that you can have Stephen Colbert be a not funny
(13:08):
jerk on TV every night making thirty million dollars a
year while the staff is getting fired. That is the
lib media business model. And once you understand that it
is not free and open, fair choice, and once you
understand how they've seated themselves top to bottom in these
corporate institutions. How they've decided to use the levers of
power and their advantage to their advantage. Clay, this has
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been worth. It's been worth presidential elections. I'm just gonna
say it. I mean, the Democrats have been in office
at different times because of this apparatus that we are
outlining for you right now. So trust me, it matters.
And you have to win the culture wars. And this
is why I think this is significant. And we're winning
the culture wars, and we're winning young men, and we
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need to add on more steam. Young women want to
look like Sidney Sweeney. Young men want to play football.
They want to be bigger, stronger, faster than they are.
They don't want to be failures, they don't want to
be mediocrites. And this sameness, this cultural androgyny that is
being sold by the left, we're lighting it on fire.
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But we need to pour on more fuel. We need
to continue to stack wins. That's why this is important.
This is how you stack multiple wins. And I do
think we should celebrate and draw attention to companies that
are making the right decisions because other companies will emulate them,
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because success is contagious, and what somebody has success, others
will follow. Our civilization is built on the aspiration to greatness,
to beauty, to discovery, to be, to be someone who
is not just eating the gruel that is handed by
the commissars and told what to do and what to
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Speaker 3 (16:55):
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Speaker 1 (17:15):
Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I've only got thirty seconds, so why don't you tell
me what do you want to talk about next? Because
I was about to dive into the crime stuff. But you,
I know you, you're you're fired up to talk about
Sidney Sweeney for another four or five hours, So you
tell me where are we doing?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
We should do the whole show just talking about how
great Sidney Sweeney looks in those jeans. And remember she's
a Republican NA Trump voter, which she kind of owned.
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Com Code Clay, Welcome back in Clay, Travis buck Sexton Show.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we
are rolling through the Thursday edition of the program, and
we've got a ton of different things that you guys
are reacting to. But I did want to play this
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because I think one of the aspects of Trump and
his particular focus on crime is it actually is connecting
with a lot of people out there that are having
to deal with legitimate crime. And here is a grandmother
of a Chicago crime victim speaking to Fox News about
(19:38):
what she sees. This is a woman named missus Gail.
I believe is how they identify her. This was on
Fox News saying, hey, bring them on, what do we
have to lose? I would bet for you that this
is how ninety plus percent of people that actually are
living in crime ravaged neighborhoods feel to cut one.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
My name is miss Guel, My grandson is Gregory Wilson.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
The third.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
You got people still arriving still and killing. Just the
other day a fail year old boy got killed, shot
in the head. It's like it's never going to end.
So if mister Trump want to bring these troops to Chicago. Hey,
bring them on. Well, we've got to lose you know
what I'm saying, Put some fear on. Let them know
that they hear. They want, you know, to protect the
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city of Chicago. We got elderly people afraid to ride
the red line. You got kids can't go outside and play.
You got women don't want to walk walk at night alone.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Look, this is one of the things that I think
is not getting enough attention. It's not going to shock
you that most mainstream media is now focused on this.
It's very easy for wealthy people who have gated communities
and have private security and or have their own community
police that are rapidly responding to any issue that might arise.
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It's very easy for those people to say, hey, it's
safe in this city. We don't need Trump, we don't
need national Guard, we don't need more police. But the
people that actually are in areas where crime takes place
would overwhelmingly welcome being able to be more secure. And
this is where I think the true lie of the
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Black Lives Matter protests are exposed, because essentially what Karen
Bass in LA and Brandon Johnson in Chicago and Governor
Wes Moore of the State of Maryland are actually saying
is black lives don't matter if it requires more police officers.
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And we know that those police officers and those National
Guard troops save and the people that they save save lives,
and the people's lives that they save are overwhelmingly black.
Yet they don't want the help.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Well, what you're seeing are a lot of people coming
forward and being very loud about how they don't need
more police. Maybe but they don't want more police. For
the people who do need and want more police. This
is a common thing, right. This is one of the
one of the tragic realities of this debate is that
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you have so many wealthy, influential people. I'm talking now
on the politician and media side. Also, are we gonna
talk about how ilhan Omar is worth so much money? Now?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
You and I were talking about this off air yesterday.
I mean, not like right now, but can we just
put a pin in that one?
Speaker 3 (22:41):
How are all these how are these politicians getting so
rich out of nowhere? We don't really understand what's going on.
I think that's worth worth asking them more about. But
these people who are in politics and media and in
general out there who are saying you don't need more
you don't need more police, you don't need more law
enforce and help in these areas. They are unfortunately relegating.
(23:04):
They are consigning others to continue to live in crime
infested neighborhoods. Yes, this is a choice, and this can
be stopped. People who just want you to believe, and
I know you all know this, but people who want
you to believe that there have to be five hundred
to six hundred murders a year in Chicago just because
that's how it goes are lying or they're idiots.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
It's just not true. It does not have to be
that way.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
In fact, there have been times where the city of Chicago,
if you went back far enough.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
I'd certainly had nowhere near that number of murders.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
So Clay, I think that this is something that Republicans
are going to continue to win on as an issue.
I think they're going to continue to bring more people
over to their side because this is a this is
a just reasonable or unreasonable thing. This isn't something that,
as we've discussed, should fall along deeply partisan lines, although
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it does fall along partisan lines. And I would just
remind everybody that the BLM two point zero era, even
when that was really going, when they would actually talk
to people, when they would do polling in high crime neighborhoods,
they might say things like I want justice for George Floyd.
But they'd also say I think more cops would help.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
And there's a lot of that.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
You know, if you look at the real data on this,
people who live in high crime neighborhoods want less crime
in those neighborhoods, and they have an understanding of we
need more cops to get this done. They don't want
the cops to use excessive force. They don't want the cops.
And that brings me to body cams for a second.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Here at Clay Sah.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
You know, I've been on this little kick online because
it must be said.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I remember there.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Was all this talk, all this stuff about oh my gosh,
because you know, even back in like the Occupy Wall
Street era, there were all these anti cop protests that
were part of it, racist murdering cops. They would have
these banners up and all this stuff. What body cameras show,
whether it's just someone who who's being drunk, disorderly and
really entitled. You know, do you know that I'm an
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assistant district attorney, sir, excuse me, sir, you know the
cops like, yeah, I don't care, I don't care. You're
not you've been trespassed from a premises or somebody coming
at an individual with a knife.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
I mean, I just saw this yesterday. Without body cameras,
we all know this.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
The community, the community organizers whatever that means, would be
saying that these were murders committed by cops. Yes, and
every time, every time there was a minority shot by
a police officer. If we didn't have body cameras, if
there was any daylight to tell everybody, uh you know,
the national media to tell everybody that this was a
(25:42):
racist cop murdering somebody, we'd have to go through that
whole national handwringing, Oh my gosh, racism, and we have
to talk about Jim Crow and the legacy of slavery and
all these things. Well, with body cameras, what you see
is cops. A lot of the cops play that I
see in these incidents are far more patient than I
be as a cop. I'm saying, yeah, like if I
saw myself in their shoes, I would have gone to force,
(26:06):
probably quicker than they do.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Which says a lot to me. I mean the most
recent one that I was watching video of yesterday, a
woman comes storming at a police officer with a with
a butcher knife and yeh, I'm telling you, if these
cameras didn't exist, I can think of five or six
different cases where you watched it on camera and you said, man,
(26:29):
that was a You know, that cop is lucky to
be alive because what people don't realize the camera actually
shows you is and you know this because you're a
trained you're a highly trained marksman. But the amount of
time it takes for someone to get to you, even
if they don't have a gun, with a knife or
with something that they could use in a violent way
(26:52):
on you, is almost instantaneous. Right.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
This is where you get the twenty foot rule. They
teach law enforce and they teach in the in the
intel agencies and military. If somebody's within twenty feet and
you have to come out of the draw out of
a holster, I know a lot of you are like, fuck,
I can draw, okay, fine, But the average person, and
the average cop who has a gun is not going
to be able to get an aim shot off at
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somebody storming them from you know, at an able bodied
mail within twenty feet. If they have a knife, they're
going to stab you. You might kill them, but they're
gonna stab you first.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Yeah. And also I think it shows because what did
you hear a lot of why don't they just shoot
them in the leg instead? Which is one of the
most ridiculous when you're being and a lot of these
body cameras, you see people get shot in the leg
and they're still stabbing. And also you see how hard
it is when someone is running at you trying to
do ill to you to hit them at period, right,
(27:46):
Like I mean, you're reacting your body is like it is.
I think it's putting people because the body cameras not
only are they showing what the officer sees, but they're
putting people inside of the officer's body, right, because effectively
you then are you know, everybody wants to play shooter
video games, right like the Fortnight's of the world. There
(28:07):
are a ton of them, the call of duties that
are super popular. When you are standing there in the
officer's perspective, you I think most people have the reaction.
A lot of people do buck that you just had
of man. This officer is actually way more conciliatory than
I might well be in this situation.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Well is this also goes to something this is when
you think about this, and this is true of all
these different law enforcement debates that happen about what is
what is reasonable and also what the incentives are here.
And we have a lot of cops who listen to
this show, and we appreciate that a lot of former
cops listen to this show. All of them know that
even in the best of circumstances in terms of clarity
(28:50):
for a lethal use of force incident, there it's you've
taken a human life. There's psychological trauma that comes along
with that. You're gonna get put There's gonna be an
investigation of this. Even I'm talking about the most clean shoot,
so to speak, imaginable, like somebody running at you with
a knife or someone pulling out a gum when you're
saying drop it, drop it, drop it drop you know
on video they're still gonna put you on leave. You've
(29:13):
still taken a human life. There's a there's a psychological
toll from that. A lot of the military guys know this,
and you know, the point is nobody wants to do that.
No one's looking to do that in law enforcement, except
in the most extreme and and unusual circumstances where you
get some kind of a psychopath in there because there's
like a hunt. There's basically a million cops in this country,
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so you're, you know, a million of anything. You're gonna
have a couple of lunatics, but in general, they're not
trying to do anything other than get home to their
families and do their jobs. And you know, there's there's
the there's that old joke, Clay. It's like I don't
remember all of it, and somebody remember it, but it's
you know, heaven is like the British or the cops,
(29:56):
and you know the uh or the brit Yeah, and
the British the cops. The Italians are the cooks, the
French or I forget what it is. But I always
think about how people point to the British as having
such good police, and I see here, I'm like, actually,
given the amount of violence and stuff that Americans have,
you know that American cops have to go through, American
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cops are phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I agree. I mean, I think if you actually contemplate
and look at this. There was, to be fair, a
lot of police that were saying, hey, we don't really
want body cams on us. Remember it wasn't but I
think increasingly every cop out there is saying, yeah, we
got to have this. I totally butchered this joke. So
can I just remind you Heaven is where the cooks
(30:42):
are French, the police are British, the mechanics are German,
the lovers are Italian. That was what I couldn't remember,
and everything is organized by the Swiss. And Hell is
where the cooks are British, the mechanics are French, and
everything is organized by the Italians. Anyway, you get the idea.
Italy is an amazing country. But boy oh boys in
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a mess.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Yeah, yeah, you don't want to You don't want to
have to get your Wi Fi linked up in Italy.
That's that's like a six month operation from what I'm told.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
And you don't want to have to ask a fringe
person to help you on anything. I'm not going to disagree.
I'm not going to disagree on that one, all right.
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Speaker 3 (32:48):
Appreciate all of you, and we have some great things
that are coming your way. Remember later on in the program.
Katie Miller with the Katie Miller Podcast. She's a Stephen
Miller's wife. She's a former Trumpetman official, and we'll be
talking to her about some great stuff going on. And
doctor Nicole Sapphire, she's a Fox News analyst, she's a doctor.
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rid of vaccine requirements in schools.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Clay very interesting, and there's a.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
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today on Capitol Hill. Who's the guy from Colorado's.
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I'm the Senator Bennett Bennett. Senator Bennett, He's like RFK Junior,
You sir, bad for health.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
You know, he's not exactly inspiring people to feel like
the people making decisions for them are in their best
interest when it comes to health, That's for sure. I
would say, RFK Junior, I think he kind of enjoys
the enjoys the scrum, if you will. I think he
enjoys the throwdown over this stuff with some of these
bureaucrats because the bureaucratic health establishment post COVID, all the
(34:01):
all the rib shots that can get Let me hit
you here as we're finishing up the hour, buck you
I got, I got the ultimate Donnie Brooke that I
think will break out among this listenership.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Uh, maybe I'm wrong. The Trump administration is discussing, according
to our friend Mary Margaret Olahan, who we had on
the show's Daily Wire, White House Reporter does a really
good job, they're discussing barring anyone who is trans from
being able to purchase guns, saying that they are not
(34:39):
mentally stable enough in their health. Uh to be basically
redlining them as a baseline.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
This is according to Mary Margaret's reporting. Justice Department, let
me read it. Uh, Justice Department is deliberating banning guns
for transgender people as part of a range of options
to block mentally unstable individuals from committing acts of violence.
Senior DOJ official, quoted by Ola Han, says, we're not
(35:09):
playing semantics with words like dysphoria. We're talking about trannies
and we don't think they should have guns. I mean
that's pretty I mean this, I mean I'm reading directly
from Mary Margaret Ola Han's reporting here.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
This they demand, this is the argument. And you know
we had Trey Gaudi on and he made this argument.
They demand that we do something. We do something. Well,
you want to address mental health. Uh, there's a mental
health concern, that's there. There's a reality here. There is
a mental health concern. You know, you're not allowed to
buy a gun. People don't know this. You're not allowed
to buy a gun if you're addicted to any illegal substance.
(35:50):
You're federally prohibited. That's the charge they brought against Hunter.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Right.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
But what I'm saying, you know that there are barriers
to buying guns based upon your status.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
This is why I said a Donnie Brook could break
out because I can see both sides. I mean, I'm
working through this report in real time for Mary Margaret,
because I can see on the one hand, the Second
Amendment absolutists saying well, this opens the door to what
is a mental illness. On the other hand, I think
a lot of you also are saying, well, there is
a high rate of trans violence. Two different schools have
(36:30):
been shot up now by people on trans medications. Are
people who are arguing they're a different gender than they
actually are mentally stable enough to be able to buy guns.
And by the way, I think it actually puts Democrats
in a real quandary to your point, Buck, because their
argument is for more gun restrictions, but they also believe
(36:50):
trans people are the gender they claim. This is an
interesting one. We'll talk a little bit more about it.
Cleeve Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.
Wel come in the Thursday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.
(00:04):
I don't know if Buck knows this, but the NFL
is back and a lot of you are going to
be watching tonight. A lot of you watched the Texas
and Ohio State game. Buck. I don't know if this
is a good or bad thing for you, but football
is setting all time record ratings, the likes of which
have never been seen before. And I've got a theory
(00:25):
on what it represents. And it ties in with another
fun story that I thought we could jump into here,
and it ties in with the cultural pendulum having swung
in a massive direction back to sanity. And I think
you have to give Donald Trump a lot of credit
for this, but I think he is symptomatic of where
(00:50):
the country is moving. And I've got a bunch of
takes on this as the data comes out, let me
give you an idea of where we're headed. By the way,
in the third hour, We've got a couple of fun
gets for you. Katie Miller, she has got a brand
new podcast. She is interviewing a lot of people. She
was Elon Musk's top assistant in the White House. She
is the wife of Stephen Miller, who many of you
(01:12):
have heard on this program for a very long time,
among the most influential advisors in the White House. Deputy
chief of Staff, I think is his official title, beneath
Susie Wiles. She is going to be on with us
in the third hour to talk about some of these
cultural trends two thirty part of the Clay and Buck podcast.
Network doctor Nicole Safire, many of you obviously see her
(01:34):
on Fox News on a regular basis as well. She
will join us. So that has all come in the
third hour. But this morning, Buck, as I was getting
ready for the show, as I was walking my fifth
grader to school, as I do most mornings, the stock
market opened, I looked down at my phone. I knew
it was going to be a big pop out of
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the gate. But American Eagle stuff for those of you
who saw the Sydney Sweeney advertisements and just said, you
know what, I think, A pretty girl in jeans and
a company that is not apologizing for it is likely
to do well. Last night, American Eagle said their Sydney
(02:19):
Sweeney ad campaign is so successful that they are now
increasing their earnings expectations and their profit expectations, and the
stock as I speak to you all today is up
thirty two and a half percent. Today alone, the stock
(02:40):
up four and a half dollars. So if you just
heard us talking about this advertisement, if you just saw
them talking about it on Fox News, and you thought
to yourself, you know what, a pretty girl in jeans
seems like a pretty good idea. And then as you
saw all the con traversy stirred up on the left,
(03:02):
people saying, oh, this is eugenics. Maybe we can go
back and pull the ABC Good Morning America story where
they put on the expert to say, oh, this is
very troubling. This is calling a blonde hair, blue eyed
girl saying she has good genes as a punt on
J E A N S G E N E s
(03:23):
A clear double entendre. There, if you thought this is
all ridiculous, this is going to work. I give credit
to American Eagle. They didn't run and hide. I know
because my grandma, grandma of my kids, My mom took
a picture of my son at back to school season
standing in front of a Sidney Sweeney ad. I know
(03:46):
that even grandmas were aware of this ad campaign, and
maybe some of you out there. You bought your kids
and your grandkids American eagle gear just to make a
statement on this buck. I do think that this is
a sign of the culture shift having occurred in a
big way. I think the popularity of football going through
(04:08):
the roof ratings wise, I think it's directly connected to
this pretty girls sports. It's all coming back together again.
It never left popularity, but they wanted to tell us
that fat androgynist model is going to sell lingerie. Guess
what America is not crazy? People like football, they like
pretty girls, and my goodness, you could have made a
(04:30):
lot of money by betting on both.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Well.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I want to find out what the next company is
that plans to just do an old school all Americana
good feeling at I mean, it seems like a you know,
Clay As you know, we've talked about marketing execs. Madison
Avenue ad execs are among the most woke as a profession,
(04:53):
most woke individuals you'll find anywhere. I mean, they're really
up there with like Broadway choreographers in terms of their politics,
and they are being in some other planet. And I
think because of America's overall prosperity, the dominance of many
American companies.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
They've been able to.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Get away with their ideological decisions, ideologically based decisions instead
of what's based the company for a long time. That
perhaps is in the early stages of changing.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
We shall see.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
I will say I haven't seen a change in the
advertising kind of companies. I should say the kind of
companies advertising and conservative media haven't seen that happen yet.
We were hearing, you know, early rumbles that this may
go on, and now I think there's a little more
of a wait and see Trump's first year. Let's see
if he stays focused and stays on it. But I
(05:44):
think that consumers and the American people need to continue
to push and that just means be vocal about your
preferences and put your dollars where your heart is. Actually
make decisions based upon where where companies align with your values.
And in some cases it's just fun and making America
and wanting to sell a good product that can align
with your values. It doesn't have to be you know,
(06:05):
everything is draped in an American flag and talks about
defeating a Communists.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Although that's fine too, but just here trying to use
the old the oldest.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Trick in the marketing book, a beautiful woman selling a
product to people that they will like. It turns out
that still works if you're willing to do it. It
certainly works better than a three hundred pound androgynous purple
hair ear plugged.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
You know, whatever we're dealing with, it's crazy. I do
think that the retreat that you saw from Cracker Barrel.
And this is where the impact of bud Light really
comes in, because I've heard so many people out there.
They get sometimes upset when we talk about culture, not
just on this program, but on all programs, and they're like,
(06:53):
tell me more about the tax plan for small businesses.
And I'm like, okay, yeah, I mean, I'm in favor
of lower taxes all these things. But culture is how
you win. I'm sorry, culture, culture, culture, the older I
get in all facets. Your company's culture is how you
(07:16):
win your team, both as a actual athletic team and
just the team around you. Your family. Culture is how
you win culture. Culture, culture, and you have to win culture.
And what I am seeing right now is Buck's point.
I told you guys this about fan duel yesterday, and
(07:36):
I got a lot of reaction to it. I don't
think most people outside of media understand that the advertising
agencies are the wokest part of American life, and they
are the bottleneck that is putting all this ridiculousness. I
would argue a lot of it is filth out into
the larger cultural arena because they control so much of
(08:01):
the access to the marketplace, and they were the ones
pushing all this androgynous models, all this hey being three
hundred and fifty pounds, that's how we should sell athletic gear. Hey,
let's put an actual man in a Nike sports bra
and let's say, hey, girls go buy Nike sports bras
to work out in. I mean, these are the ads
(08:21):
that they were putting in. They're the reason bud Light
put this trans influencer on a can in the first place.
We have to destroy them. We have to destroy them.
And I understand there's a lot of cowardice out there,
but that's how you win culture. That is how you
go back to some form of normalcy in American life.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
And I think that it's incumbent upon everybody to remember
this as they're making their decisions. Uh. And you know,
we talked about Crockett coffee here on the show and
how we're already you know, some of you listen to
Joe PAGs. Joe PAGs are selling Crockett coffee and Ben
Ferguson is selling Crocket coffee. You know, we're putting money
into the broader conservative of media economy because Clay and
(09:02):
I remember what it was like. I remember the early days.
Sponsors that would come on you have the same thing.
Sponsors that would stand with you. They felt like family.
And that's one of the reasons why we're so attached
to many of our longtime sponsors here on this show,
because they're with us shoulder to shoulder. Yeah, they're trying
to offer up great products to all of you, but
they make a be very clear about this, and I
(09:23):
don't ever want to make it feel like this is
something we don't talk about. They make every sponsor on
this and other conservative programs out there, they make a
decision to stand with you, all of you and your
values because there are a lot of companies out there
that we would make a ton of money for by
just telling you about their great products. And they're like,
(09:43):
I'm sorry, have you heard what Klay Travis says about
trans guys playing on women's field hockey. Have you heard
what Buck Sexton said about COVID lockdowns and fauci And
I'm that is the God's honest truth. That is exactly
what goes on.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
This is one where strategically the left understands how to
win culture better they created And again we're taking you
into the weeds a little bit, but I think it's
important for you guys to understand it, and certainly Rush
lived through it because some of the creation of these
groups were designed to try to destroy Rush's show. As
many of you well remember, the left created entire companies
(10:24):
that they're All they did was reach out to big
brand advertisers and say, are you sure you want to
be affiliated with this conservative by the way, very broadly
defined conservative. Because I did a sports talk show and
I had FanDuel cancel on me over saying men can't
(10:45):
be in women's sports. I mean, how many sports gamblers
do you think in America believe that men should be
able to compete in women's sports?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
I generally don't think the guys we were paying really
close attention to which ponies gonna come in first, or
which touchdown is going to be the game winner? Sitting
there chopping their cigars, like, you know, what we really
need more future is female.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
T shirts and by the way, also beer companies. I mean,
this is the Cracker Barrel's decision writ large, and I
think a lot of these companies are now going to
start firing some of these marketing agencies, but they're the
ones with the choke hold on culture. You need to
see the Sydney Sweeney ad campaign work because cowardice is
(11:27):
common and most marketers are not particularly smart, and they
follow whichever direction they're led. And if they're told put
fat chicks into sports bras or put dudes with penises
into sports bras to sell women's athletic gear, they'll do
it because they're cowards and that's what they were told.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
And you see in the case of the Cracker Barrel
and all a Cracker Barel situation. I just want to
say this too, for I've been reading conservative media and
I've doing all this stuff now since I was in
high school.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
So we're going on thirty thirty years of.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Seeing what the sponsors are, seeing what the climate is,
and how advertisers and corporations treat anything that half the
country a little niche market own as half the country
fully endorses and supports, and so there is a sense
of a I don't know if it's a renaissance, it's
certainly a turning of the tide. There is a sense
(12:25):
that things now under this Trump administration are better than
they have ever been in this regard. There's still a
lot of work to be done, though, because it's crazy
and you see a lot of these shows Clay after
the Trump election, after Trump's election win that have been canceled.
A lot of these programs that have they were being
propped up by people and companies selling.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Other stuff to you.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Right, so it's like the corporation is making money selling
you toaster ovens or whatever, and then people who are
in a media subsidiary that the corporation owns are able
to write check that are subsidized by the toaster ovens
that you don't realize are actually paying the bills so
that you can have Stephen Colbert be a not funny
(13:08):
jerk on TV every night making thirty million dollars a
year while the staff is getting fired. That is the
lib media business model. And once you understand that it
is not free and open, fair choice, and once you
understand how they've seated themselves top to bottom in these
corporate institutions. How they've decided to use the levers of
power and their advantage to their advantage. Clay, this has
(13:30):
been worth. It's been worth presidential elections. I'm just gonna
say it. I mean, the Democrats have been in office
at different times because of this apparatus that we are
outlining for you right now. So trust me, it matters.
And you have to win the culture wars. And this
is why I think this is significant. And we're winning
the culture wars, and we're winning young men, and we
(13:51):
need to add on more steam. Young women want to
look like Sidney Sweeney. Young men want to play football.
They want to be bigger, stronger, faster than they are.
They don't want to be failures, they don't want to
be mediocrites. And this sameness, this cultural androgyny that is
being sold by the left, we're lighting it on fire.
(14:14):
But we need to pour on more fuel. We need
to continue to stack wins. That's why this is important.
This is how you stack multiple wins. And I do
think we should celebrate and draw attention to companies that
are making the right decisions because other companies will emulate them,
(14:34):
because success is contagious, and what somebody has success, others
will follow. Our civilization is built on the aspiration to greatness,
to beauty, to discovery, to be, to be someone who
is not just eating the gruel that is handed by
the commissars and told what to do and what to
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Welcome back into Clay and Buck.
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We got a lot going on today and we want
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all of us. That means talkbacks, calls, all that good stuff.
Eight hundred two A two two eight a two on
the lines. And we got some things to dive into,
mister Clay, for example, the Trump administrata.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I've only got thirty seconds, so why don't you tell
me what do you want to talk about next? Because
I was about to dive into the crime stuff. But you,
I know you, you're you're fired up to talk about
Sidney Sweeney for another four or five hours, So you
tell me where are we doing?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
We should do the whole show just talking about how
great Sidney Sweeney looks in those jeans. And remember she's
a Republican NA Trump voter, which she kind of owned.
She's a Floridian, has a great place down in the
Florida Keys. But Buck, I've got a winner for everybody
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Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we
are rolling through the Thursday edition of the program, and
we've got a ton of different things that you guys
are reacting to. But I did want to play this
(19:14):
because I think one of the aspects of Trump and
his particular focus on crime is it actually is connecting
with a lot of people out there that are having
to deal with legitimate crime. And here is a grandmother
of a Chicago crime victim speaking to Fox News about
(19:38):
what she sees. This is a woman named missus Gail.
I believe is how they identify her. This was on
Fox News saying, hey, bring them on, what do we
have to lose? I would bet for you that this
is how ninety plus percent of people that actually are
living in crime ravaged neighborhoods feel to cut one.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
My name is miss Guel, My grandson is Gregory Wilson.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
The third.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
You got people still arriving still and killing. Just the
other day a fail year old boy got killed, shot
in the head. It's like it's never going to end.
So if mister Trump want to bring these troops to Chicago. Hey,
bring them on. Well, we've got to lose you know
what I'm saying, Put some fear on. Let them know
that they hear. They want, you know, to protect the
(20:26):
city of Chicago. We got elderly people afraid to ride
the red line. You got kids can't go outside and play.
You got women don't want to walk walk at night alone.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Look, this is one of the things that I think
is not getting enough attention. It's not going to shock
you that most mainstream media is now focused on this.
It's very easy for wealthy people who have gated communities
and have private security and or have their own community
police that are rapidly responding to any issue that might arise.
(21:02):
It's very easy for those people to say, hey, it's
safe in this city. We don't need Trump, we don't
need national Guard, we don't need more police. But the
people that actually are in areas where crime takes place
would overwhelmingly welcome being able to be more secure. And
this is where I think the true lie of the
(21:25):
Black Lives Matter protests are exposed, because essentially what Karen
Bass in LA and Brandon Johnson in Chicago and Governor
Wes Moore of the State of Maryland are actually saying
is black lives don't matter if it requires more police officers.
(21:49):
And we know that those police officers and those National
Guard troops save and the people that they save save lives,
and the people's lives that they save are overwhelmingly black.
Yet they don't want the help.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Well, what you're seeing are a lot of people coming
forward and being very loud about how they don't need
more police. Maybe but they don't want more police. For
the people who do need and want more police. This
is a common thing, right. This is one of the
one of the tragic realities of this debate is that
(22:24):
you have so many wealthy, influential people. I'm talking now
on the politician and media side. Also, are we gonna
talk about how ilhan Omar is worth so much money? Now?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
You and I were talking about this off air yesterday.
I mean, not like right now, but can we just
put a pin in that one?
Speaker 3 (22:41):
How are all these how are these politicians getting so
rich out of nowhere? We don't really understand what's going on.
I think that's worth worth asking them more about. But
these people who are in politics and media and in
general out there who are saying you don't need more
you don't need more police, you don't need more law
enforce and help in these areas. They are unfortunately relegating.
(23:04):
They are consigning others to continue to live in crime
infested neighborhoods. Yes, this is a choice, and this can
be stopped. People who just want you to believe, and
I know you all know this, but people who want
you to believe that there have to be five hundred
to six hundred murders a year in Chicago just because
that's how it goes are lying or they're idiots.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
It's just not true. It does not have to be
that way.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
In fact, there have been times where the city of Chicago,
if you went back far enough.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
I'd certainly had nowhere near that number of murders.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
So Clay, I think that this is something that Republicans
are going to continue to win on as an issue.
I think they're going to continue to bring more people
over to their side because this is a this is
a just reasonable or unreasonable thing. This isn't something that,
as we've discussed, should fall along deeply partisan lines, although
(23:56):
it does fall along partisan lines. And I would just
remind everybody that the BLM two point zero era, even
when that was really going, when they would actually talk
to people, when they would do polling in high crime neighborhoods,
they might say things like I want justice for George Floyd.
But they'd also say I think more cops would help.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
And there's a lot of that.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
You know, if you look at the real data on this,
people who live in high crime neighborhoods want less crime
in those neighborhoods, and they have an understanding of we
need more cops to get this done. They don't want
the cops to use excessive force. They don't want the cops.
And that brings me to body cams for a second.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Here at Clay Sah.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
You know, I've been on this little kick online because
it must be said.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I remember there.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Was all this talk, all this stuff about oh my gosh,
because you know, even back in like the Occupy Wall
Street era, there were all these anti cop protests that
were part of it, racist murdering cops. They would have
these banners up and all this stuff. What body cameras show,
whether it's just someone who who's being drunk, disorderly and
really entitled. You know, do you know that I'm an
(25:04):
assistant district attorney, sir, excuse me, sir, you know the
cops like, yeah, I don't care, I don't care. You're
not you've been trespassed from a premises or somebody coming
at an individual with a knife.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
I mean, I just saw this yesterday. Without body cameras,
we all know this.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
The community, the community organizers whatever that means, would be
saying that these were murders committed by cops. Yes, and
every time, every time there was a minority shot by
a police officer. If we didn't have body cameras, if
there was any daylight to tell everybody, uh you know,
the national media to tell everybody that this was a
(25:42):
racist cop murdering somebody, we'd have to go through that
whole national handwringing, Oh my gosh, racism, and we have
to talk about Jim Crow and the legacy of slavery and
all these things. Well, with body cameras, what you see
is cops. A lot of the cops play that I
see in these incidents are far more patient than I
be as a cop. I'm saying, yeah, like if I
saw myself in their shoes, I would have gone to force,
(26:06):
probably quicker than they do.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Which says a lot to me. I mean the most
recent one that I was watching video of yesterday, a
woman comes storming at a police officer with a with
a butcher knife and yeh, I'm telling you, if these
cameras didn't exist, I can think of five or six
different cases where you watched it on camera and you said, man,
(26:29):
that was a You know, that cop is lucky to
be alive because what people don't realize the camera actually
shows you is and you know this because you're a
trained you're a highly trained marksman. But the amount of
time it takes for someone to get to you, even
if they don't have a gun, with a knife or
with something that they could use in a violent way
(26:52):
on you, is almost instantaneous. Right.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
This is where you get the twenty foot rule. They
teach law enforce and they teach in the in the
intel agencies and military. If somebody's within twenty feet and
you have to come out of the draw out of
a holster, I know a lot of you are like, fuck,
I can draw, okay, fine, But the average person, and
the average cop who has a gun is not going
to be able to get an aim shot off at
(27:16):
somebody storming them from you know, at an able bodied
mail within twenty feet. If they have a knife, they're
going to stab you. You might kill them, but they're
gonna stab you first.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Yeah. And also I think it shows because what did
you hear a lot of why don't they just shoot
them in the leg instead? Which is one of the
most ridiculous when you're being and a lot of these
body cameras, you see people get shot in the leg
and they're still stabbing. And also you see how hard
it is when someone is running at you trying to
do ill to you to hit them at period, right,
(27:46):
Like I mean, you're reacting your body is like it is.
I think it's putting people because the body cameras not
only are they showing what the officer sees, but they're
putting people inside of the officer's body, right, because effectively
you then are you know, everybody wants to play shooter
video games, right like the Fortnight's of the world. There
(28:07):
are a ton of them, the call of duties that
are super popular. When you are standing there in the
officer's perspective, you I think most people have the reaction.
A lot of people do buck that you just had
of man. This officer is actually way more conciliatory than
I might well be in this situation.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Well is this also goes to something this is when
you think about this, and this is true of all
these different law enforcement debates that happen about what is
what is reasonable and also what the incentives are here.
And we have a lot of cops who listen to
this show, and we appreciate that a lot of former
cops listen to this show. All of them know that
even in the best of circumstances in terms of clarity
(28:50):
for a lethal use of force incident, there it's you've
taken a human life. There's psychological trauma that comes along
with that. You're gonna get put There's gonna be an
investigation of this. Even I'm talking about the most clean shoot,
so to speak, imaginable, like somebody running at you with
a knife or someone pulling out a gum when you're
saying drop it, drop it, drop it drop you know
on video they're still gonna put you on leave. You've
(29:13):
still taken a human life. There's a there's a psychological
toll from that. A lot of the military guys know this,
and you know, the point is nobody wants to do that.
No one's looking to do that in law enforcement, except
in the most extreme and and unusual circumstances where you
get some kind of a psychopath in there because there's
like a hunt. There's basically a million cops in this country,
(29:35):
so you're, you know, a million of anything. You're gonna
have a couple of lunatics, but in general, they're not
trying to do anything other than get home to their
families and do their jobs. And you know, there's there's
the there's that old joke, Clay. It's like I don't
remember all of it, and somebody remember it, but it's
you know, heaven is like the British or the cops,
(29:56):
and you know the uh or the brit Yeah, and
the British the cops. The Italians are the cooks, the
French or I forget what it is. But I always
think about how people point to the British as having
such good police, and I see here, I'm like, actually,
given the amount of violence and stuff that Americans have,
you know that American cops have to go through, American
(30:17):
cops are phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I agree. I mean, I think if you actually contemplate
and look at this. There was, to be fair, a
lot of police that were saying, hey, we don't really
want body cams on us. Remember it wasn't but I
think increasingly every cop out there is saying, yeah, we
got to have this. I totally butchered this joke. So
can I just remind you Heaven is where the cooks
(30:42):
are French, the police are British, the mechanics are German,
the lovers are Italian. That was what I couldn't remember,
and everything is organized by the Swiss. And Hell is
where the cooks are British, the mechanics are French, and
everything is organized by the Italians. Anyway, you get the idea.
Italy is an amazing country. But boy oh boys in
(31:04):
a mess.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Yeah, yeah, you don't want to You don't want to
have to get your Wi Fi linked up in Italy.
That's that's like a six month operation from what I'm told.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
And you don't want to have to ask a fringe
person to help you on anything. I'm not going to disagree.
I'm not going to disagree on that one, all right.
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Speaker 3 (32:48):
Appreciate all of you, and we have some great things
that are coming your way. Remember later on in the program.
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Miller's wife. She's a former Trumpetman official, and we'll be
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rid of vaccine requirements in schools.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Clay very interesting, and there's a.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
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today on Capitol Hill. Who's the guy from Colorado's.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
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I'm the Senator Bennett Bennett. Senator Bennett, He's like RFK Junior,
You sir, bad for health.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
You know, he's not exactly inspiring people to feel like
the people making decisions for them are in their best
interest when it comes to health, That's for sure. I
would say, RFK Junior, I think he kind of enjoys
the enjoys the scrum, if you will. I think he
enjoys the throwdown over this stuff with some of these
bureaucrats because the bureaucratic health establishment post COVID, all the
(34:01):
all the rib shots that can get Let me hit
you here as we're finishing up the hour, buck you
I got, I got the ultimate Donnie Brooke that I
think will break out among this listenership.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Uh, maybe I'm wrong. The Trump administration is discussing, according
to our friend Mary Margaret Olahan, who we had on
the show's Daily Wire, White House Reporter does a really
good job, they're discussing barring anyone who is trans from
being able to purchase guns, saying that they are not
(34:39):
mentally stable enough in their health. Uh to be basically
redlining them as a baseline.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
This is according to Mary Margaret's reporting. Justice Department, let
me read it. Uh, Justice Department is deliberating banning guns
for transgender people as part of a range of options
to block mentally unstable individuals from committing acts of violence.
Senior DOJ official, quoted by Ola Han, says, we're not
(35:09):
playing semantics with words like dysphoria. We're talking about trannies
and we don't think they should have guns. I mean
that's pretty I mean this, I mean I'm reading directly
from Mary Margaret Ola Han's reporting here.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
This they demand, this is the argument. And you know
we had Trey Gaudi on and he made this argument.
They demand that we do something. We do something. Well,
you want to address mental health. Uh, there's a mental
health concern, that's there. There's a reality here. There is
a mental health concern. You know, you're not allowed to
buy a gun. People don't know this. You're not allowed
to buy a gun if you're addicted to any illegal substance.
(35:50):
You're federally prohibited. That's the charge they brought against Hunter.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Right.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
But what I'm saying, you know that there are barriers
to buying guns based upon your status.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
This is why I said a Donnie Brook could break
out because I can see both sides. I mean, I'm
working through this report in real time for Mary Margaret,
because I can see on the one hand, the Second
Amendment absolutists saying well, this opens the door to what
is a mental illness. On the other hand, I think
a lot of you also are saying, well, there is
a high rate of trans violence. Two different schools have
(36:30):
been shot up now by people on trans medications. Are
people who are arguing they're a different gender than they
actually are mentally stable enough to be able to buy guns.
And by the way, I think it actually puts Democrats
in a real quandary to your point, Buck, because their
argument is for more gun restrictions, but they also believe
(36:50):
trans people are the gender they claim. This is an
interesting one. We'll talk a little bit more about it.
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