May 7, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show dives into several compelling topics, starting with the ongoing conclave to select the next pope. The hosts discuss the process and significance of this event, particularly for the Catholic community. They then shift to a heated debate about Florida's "Parental Rights in Education" bill, often misrepresented as the "Don't Say Gay" bill. Clay and Buck criticize Disney's reaction to the bill, highlighting the company's hypocrisy as it plans to open a new theme park in Abu Dhabi, a country with severe anti-LGBTQ+ laws.
The conversation also touches on broader issues of gender identity and indoctrination in schools, emphasizing the ideological battles surrounding these topics. The hosts play audio clips from ESPN's controversial moment of silence in solidarity with LGBTQ+ communities, contrasting it with Disney's actions in the UAE. They argue that the left's approach to these issues is inconsistent and driven by power dynamics.
Additionally, the show includes a discussion on the cultural and economic rise of various American cities, with Nashville and Miami highlighted as examples of rapid growth and increased popularity. The hosts also critique the left's stance on global LGBTQ+ rights, pointing out the lack of criticism towards oppressive regimes in the Islamic world.
In a lighter segment, Clay shares his experience attending a Michael Jackson musical, sparking a debate about separating art from the artist. The hour concludes with a preview of upcoming topics and interviews, promising more engaging content for listeners. This summary captures the essence of hour 2, focusing on the show's critical analysis and diverse discussions.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in hour number two Wednesday edition Clay Travis buck
Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.
Next hour. Top of the next hour, I just saw
they have locked the doors of the on the conclave
that will decide the next pope. We will head to Rome,
Vatican City. In particular, I suppose to talk with Raymond
(00:23):
Arroyo of Fox News about that potential process. And there
is much going on that will be dramatic, I would
imagine as we wait to see whether white pope will
white smoke will climb into the night sky in Rome
(00:43):
to let us know that there has been a new
pope crowned, or whether they will go into tomorrow. I
believe they have votes in the morning and the afternoon.
I was doing reading to try to familiarize myself with
this process because it's been a little while since we
selected a pope, and waiting to see when the smoke
comes out, whether it's black meaning they have not selected
(01:05):
a hope, or white meaning they have selected a hope.
How much attention do you pay to this as a
Catholic Buck A huge probably, I don't know thirty percent
of this audience roughly probably is Catholic. Do you pay
attention and know any of these names? Are there any like?
How do you think the average Catholic person in the
United States follows this process. I think it's a very
(01:27):
small number of people who know much about the possible
candidates among the various cardinals. So but I think that
there will be There is tremendous interest in who the
Pope will be, but there's not a lot of detailed
knowledge out there in general for what the possibilities are,
(01:47):
what they've stood for in the past. I'm speaking in
broad terms. If you are a world class expert on
all cardinals from all over the world, my apologies for
not thinking of you right away, But generally, I think
I think it's just we want to find out who
the Pope is. Pope's been a big deal for a
long time. I'm sending these to producer Greg right now.
(02:09):
I know he is listening. I want to add this
audio because I think it kind of epitomizes how lost
much of our media has become. But I don't know
how many of you know this story, so let me
give you a little bit of a background. Buck you
may or may not know this story. Three years ago
Florida passed that don't say the so called don't say
(02:30):
Gay bill in the state of Florida. Disney sued and
it turned into a major cultural flashpoint, such that Live
on Air on ESPN, which is owned by Disney, they
paused to have a moment of silence in allyship with
(02:51):
LGBTQI people who were upset by this. Can I just
also point out the media went full throttle so that
they could convince people the bill is the Parental Rights
and Education Bill. It's HB fifteen fifty seven, correct parental
rights and education. No where does it say you can't
say gay, and it's not even the name of the bill.
So it was a pure propaganda operation, completely accurate. And
(03:16):
I'm glad you brought that up because I was gonna
hammer this home because I think it has been discussed
recently as we've been talking about what books. Remember they
had the Supreme Court argument and even some people on
the left were like, man, that's crazy that you would
be reading these books to kindergarteners. All the Florida bill did,
(03:37):
Ron Desantus one hundred percent right on this. All the
bill did was say there will be no sex or
gender instruction for kindergartener, first, second, third grade kids. I
would even argue, I've got a fourth grader, he's ten.
I think you could expand it probably to fourth and
fifth grade, two until a kid gets to puberty ish age.
(04:03):
Fifth grade, sixth grade I think is certainly early a
little bit, but at least that's in the vicinity of
when kids might become aware of puberty. Why in the
world would any public school need to be teaching gender
sex based in any way issues to classrooms. Well, you know,
it's a question that we actually have to keep answering, right,
(04:26):
it's not a rhetorical question. Why do they want to
do this, because it's in doctrination, because it actually goes
to the core ideology, the core of the ideology they're
trying to present, which is that and it does not
make sense. But a lot of things don't make sense
that people ardently believe, right, you know, democrats think socialism
(04:47):
is going to work this time. Anyway, a lot of
things don't make sense, but one of them is that
doctors get the gender of the baby wrong. Yes, and
so it starts from the very youngest age that somehow
now they can like reverse bioengineer this, and they need
to get people as young as possible because otherwise it's
(05:09):
too clear that this is a choice, or this is
a psychological condition that develops as you get older. They
want this to be it is like it is like
skin color. It is an immutable thing that you must understand.
Is a is You know a person is that way,
and there's no change again, and so we must all
(05:30):
respect it equally. It is not like skin color as
we know it is. It is in fact, not a
physical manifestation at all, even though there are people who
are intersex, but that is not what transgenderism is. And
now we get to why they want to push it
so early, and why they want to push it on
such young kids because Clay in their mind. Also, this
(05:53):
is not about sex. This is about civil rights. This
is a civil rights issue. This is like training anti
race racism into second graders. Well, we got an audio
clip for that, but I think many people don't know
this happens. So the reason why I'm bringing it up
today is Disney has announced this morning that they are
going to be building a brand new theme park, New
(06:15):
disney World, Disneyland, whatever it is, in Abu Dhabi and
in Abu Dhabi, in the country of the UAE. I
believe you're better at geography than me. I looked it up.
In the UAE, you can be beheaded if you are gay,
So not exactly an expansive view of human sexuality in
(06:37):
the UAE. In the UAE, you could probably say gay,
but then you might be beheaded. Yes, it's a bad part. Okay,
So over this FLOORI to bill, which, as Buck Rightley
points out, was misattributed to a don't say gay bill.
It just said kindergarten first second, third graders can't be
gender instructed Disney, and I don't think this got enough tension,
(06:59):
which owns e s. They had a moment of silence
live on the air during a women's basketball game. This
is l Duncan. I have tagged her on Twitter to
ask when we should expect the moment of silence over
the new theme park that Disney is opening in Abu Dhabi.
(07:19):
But listen to what you could have tuned in just
to watch a women's college basketball game on a ESPN.
This is what you would have heard. This is what
they did over the Florida Bill. Listen cut twenty six.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Legislation happening in Florida and across other states as well
that are targeting our LGBTQI plus communities. Many of our
colleagues here at ESPN have planned and organized a walkout
that will be happening at three pm Eastern today. And
to be honest with you, we thought we were going
to come here today and really celebrate a sport that
has meant so much and done so much, including for
(07:54):
so many in the LGBTQI plus communities. But we understand
the gravity of this legislation and also how it is
affecting so many families across this country. And because of that,
our ally shit is going to take a front seat.
And with that, we're gonna pause in solidarity.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Okay, I'm going to play another cut for you that
I've had them introduced. Buck. This is during the women's
NCAA basketball tournament. You tune it in. It was South
Carolina and Howard are playing. You are a parent and
you're like, hey, I want to watch this basketball game
with my little girl or my little boy. You put
on sports. That is what you saw. Okay. This was
(08:35):
their reaction to the Florida bill. Now Disney is building
a theme park in Abu Dhabi where theoretically you could
be beheaded if you are gay. What is the necessity
that a ESPN must undertake here? Now, Buck? First off,
do we need to do a fact finding mission? Is
this going to be like Clay and Buck's excellent Abu
Dhabi adventure? Do we have to show up to this
new Is Minnie Mouse going to be wearing a Burco? Like?
(08:57):
How does this go? It's a fabulous question. And let
me say this. I don't begrudge companies that are global
in nature deciding to try and reach the largest global audience.
What I am opposed to is when you wag your
finger and lecture all of us in America and then
(09:19):
your company engages in behavior which is far worse than
what you are complaining about occurring here, and you are
shut up and you say nothing at all about it. Well,
what you see is with the ideology of the left
in America, it's all about power dynamics and who they
think they can bully, And in this country they can bully,
(09:41):
particularly what they views as a predominantly Christian and majority
white although you know it's not a huge majority, but
they think that they can bully them as much as
they possibly want to do absolutely anything that they want,
and we may comply, like we might actually just completely
That's why the gender thing, for example, matters so much
(10:02):
to them, because if they can get us to say that,
you know what, that that six foot eight, two hundred
and fifty pound dude who thinks he's a woman because
he grew his hair a little long, has't gotten a
haircut in a while and is dunking on all the
chicks on the basketball court and scoring one hundred and
forty points a game. That's good. That's civil rights, that's progress.
If they can make us do that, they can make
us do absolutely anything. But they know that they can't
(10:25):
actually pull this stuff off Clay in China, they can't
pull it off in the Middle East, they can't pull
it off in Africa. They can't pull off the wokeness
routine in countries or and or continents where overwhelmingly it's
one non white and two it's gonna be rejected. They're
gonna say, no, that's crazy to us. So this is
(10:45):
the well, the whole thing is a scam. They don't
actually mean what they say. On the left. Okay, this
is even crazier buck. This is the game itself. So
I just played the introduction of ESPN saying we're gonna
have a moment of silence. This is the game broadcasters.
I've never seen or heard this happen anywhere. This is
on ESPN's broadcast. You are sitting down to watch South
(11:09):
Carolina Howard Women's college basketball tournament. And this is what
the two game broadcasters said right after L. Duncan tossed
it to them. While the game is going on itself.
Listen to cut twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Corney Lyle Carolyn Pack. Now, Normally at this time we
would take a look back at the first half, but
there are things bigger than basketball that need to be
addressed at this time. Our friends, our family, our coworkers,
the players and coaches in our community are hurting right now.
And at three o'clock, about eight minutes ago, our LGBTQIA
plus teammates at Disney asked for our solidarity and support,
(11:47):
including our companies support in opposition to the Parental Rights
in Education bill in the state of Florida and similar legislature.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Across the United States.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
And a threat to any human right is a threat
to all human rights. Today, at this time, Courtney and
I we're gonna take a pause from our broadcast to
show our love and support for our friends, our families,
and our colleagues.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
The game is going on right now, and that's the
way it can, you believe. I don't think this got
enough attention when it happened. This was a couple of
years ago. But this morning, when I saw the Abu
Dhabi news, I couldn't help but think, well, this is interesting,
right if you're so opposed to the Florida Bill, which
buck you rightly pointed out, all it did was say kindergarten,
(12:39):
first second third graders were not going to instruct an
education related to sex, wasn't gay, trans anything else, which
overwhelming majorities of parents support, And that was their reaction
to the Florida Bill. Well, now they're building an entire
theme park in a country that believes gay people should
be beheaded, And I just think it illustrates the depths
(13:01):
of the hypocrisy that there will not be a sentilla
of noise that comes out of ESPN over this Disney
corporate decision. I mean, you're talking about gay people, but
what what do you think? How do you think it
goes for you and Abi Dabi Abu Dhabi. If you
walk around you're like, no, I'm actually a they. I
don't think it's the authorities. I don't think first of all,
(13:22):
it's an authoritarian state. They detain people, they torture people
to do whatever they want. I mean, it's a nice
place to visit. If you're an American or European you
got a lot of money. Just don't step out of
line at all, and don't talk about politics to anybody. Yeah,
I mean you think you walk around you're like, you know,
my name, my name is in Steve, it's actually Sally,
and like you have to use the preferred pronouns. I
don't even know what they would do with you, but
(13:43):
it would be really bad. They would not well this
is like imply the gays for Gaza. They would definitely
take you for a tour of their of their upper
deck and then the of the of the rooftop, and
then they would throw you off of it. Well, you know,
the American left is unseerious about on a global scale,
uh lgbt q I A plus rights because they just
(14:05):
the Muslim world by and large is allowed to do
whatever they want and with almost no with no protests,
no nothing. They'll never even leftists in America won't even
say that the the mother load of oppression when it
comes to gender and LGBTU, TQ and all that the
mother load of I mean, the real is the Islamic world.
(14:27):
They will never talk about that. By the way, as
a guy who isn't really as you point out a
lot diehard sports fan, can you believe that that exists,
that that audio on a sports broadcast network, that that video,
that that would have even occurred? Does that just blow
your mind? It blows my mind. Even though I know
how crazy these people are, the fact that happens still
(14:48):
blows my mind. I think a lot of sports viewers,
which I can't speak to, be one much, you know,
but I think that Clay, they just get They're just
used to just tuning. It's like when actors used to
give their p onions on things and I'm like, I
just want to see your movie. If it's good, just
shut up, I don't want. I feel like a lot
of sports viewers have gotten used to and maybe now
this is changing, all right. They're doing some you know,
(15:09):
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Hang with Clay and Buck podcast, Welcome back into Clay
and Buck. We're gonna dive a little more into this
subject matter. We were just discussing a second ago when
it comes to the gender identity issues that the Democrats
are pushing forward, including a sports commentary colleague of Clay's,
(16:53):
at least in the same industry. It's a colleague in
the same industry who had quite a comparison between trans
women playing sports to make and Clay is going to
play that for you when we come back here in
a second. I still keep looking at Clay and asking
this question. I think once every three or four months
or so, I say, how is it possible that a
(17:15):
sports network like ESPN could have so thoroughly lost its
mind considering who its audience is. Yeah, it's a question
that I've been I mean, that's one I'm glad I
started out kick to just kind of because otherwise you're
just kind of sometimes feel like you're yelling into the void.
And so we have built a really good business to
take advantage of the fact that they've lost their minds.
(17:37):
But I just I can't stop thinking about if you're
just a parent, you wanted to watch a women's basketball
game with your eight year old daughter, and you sit
down on your couch and suddenly they're pausing because they're
angry about a bill passed in Florida. And meanwhile they're
building theme parks now in Abu Dhabi. It's crazy. Still
(17:58):
think we got to go in to an Abudhabi adventure?
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(19:08):
On The Abbey Phillips Show in the evening, Jammel Hill,
who used to work at ESPN and was fired by
ESPN for, among other things, saying that Trump was a
white supremacist. Kind of an aggressive take for somebody who
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(19:28):
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(19:49):
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(20:30):
got a sweet because they're in general we're going to
a Titans game next year. I didn't know this. Well,
the new stadium doesn't open un till twenty twenty seven. Okay,
a couple of years. Nashville we're gonna get a super Bowl,
which is gonna be incredible. I think we're gonna get
the twenty twenty nine or twenty thirty super Bowl, which
for a kid who grew up in Nashville like me,
is on. Like if you had told me when I
(20:52):
was a kid, Hey, one day, Nashville is gonna have
a Super Bowl, I would have been like, you're crazy.
Much less all the different teams that we have now
and everything else. Do you think Nashville is sorry to
divert from it? We're gonna get back to ESPN craziness
really soon. Here has Nashville had the of any city
in America in the last call it ten years, the
(21:14):
biggest hero arc if you will, or like you know,
the biggest surge. I mean, I think I think people
put Austin up there, but I think Austin started to
have some I think it's number one. I mean, I'll
just tell you. When I went away to the East
Coast for college in nineteen ninety seven was when I
went off to college and I told people from Nashville
that I was from Nashville, and on the East coast,
(21:37):
west coast everywhere, they would be like, well, do you
guys have indoor plumbing there? Like that, I would have
wondered if you played the banjo for sure, that's right.
If people were like, oh, Nashville, that sounds like an
awful place, I would say about ten years ago, probably
about two thousand and five two thousand and six, was
(21:57):
when every time I mentioned that I was from Nashville,
people would say, Oh, that's I went there. That's one
of the most fun cities I've ever visited. And to
the point now where I would argue in my lifetime,
like in the maybe the twenty first century is a
good way to put it. I'm not sure any city
has gone from not very cool in the public perception
(22:18):
in two thousand to now considered by twenty twenty five
one of the coolest cities in America. Then Nashville. It's
a good question, Like what Austin is a good example,
but I think Austin kind of has faded because I
think Austin they've made some poor choices personally in some
of their leadership. Austin's Charleston's had a big run, a
(22:39):
big run. You know, a lot of people know about
and love Charleston. Savannah a little bit smaller, but same idea.
My uncle was a cop and Savannah clay in the
nineties and it was tough place. Well where you are Miami,
I would argue, from two thousand to twenty twenty five,
has Miami's maybe the coolest city man West Palm, West
(23:01):
Palm as well. Actually it's just getting exploded, Yeah, in
a poppy in a in a positive way. It's a
good question, you guys. Has had a great run. But
as a Miami person, I don't even know anything about Tampa.
But you know, sometimes I gotta throw a little shade.
It's it's a little bit like giants jets, you know.
It's like, Oh, Okay, Tampa, the other the other cool
big city in Florida, I would say, and I know
(23:21):
it's been growing rapidly for a long time. The Phoenix
area has certainly, I think in the last twenty five
years gotten cooler and uh and and really there aren't
that I mean, really, I would say Nashville, Austin Charlotte.
Probably Charlotte has come up some in the in the
overall perception Miami where you are Miami, for sure. California
(23:46):
cities have lost their their cachet, right, and so I
think some of those other places, whether it's Las Vegas, Boise, Idaho, uh, Phoenix,
where a lot of people from California have moved in
the Western and Western United States, I would say, have
all kind of taken off. There's a lot of people
and I haven't spent any time there. I think we
(24:06):
got a great affiliate. Oklahoma City is one that I
think a lot of people say is a very cool
place to live that in two thousand wouldn't have been
considered that cool of a place to be. Columbus, Ohio,
I think in the Midwest, has been a city that has,
you know, kind of hot. And then there's the other
the other side of this equation would be the rapid
(24:27):
deterioration places, which I mean I think, for example, I
know we've got a big affiliate in Portland where in
k ex there. Portland's a beautiful city, but yes, communists
cause a lot of problems in that city. As all
of you who live in the area. No Seattle. I
haven't even been to Seattle. It's actually the next city
that I really want to go to, just because I've
never been. And I think that's kind of weird. It's
(24:47):
supposed to be so beautiful. It's had a rough go
last let's say ten fifteen years, you know, and you
saw all that. Really, the West Coast cities in general,
with the exception of San Diego, have been on a
I think, been on a kind of a negative trajectory
because of crime, safety, cost of living stuff. Yeah, what
happens when democrats are in charge, which they are entirely
(25:09):
COVID totally has played in speaking of So that's a
good question. I'm actually curious. No, it's a great question.
I'm curious to see the suggestions because we might have
missed some places that people would that people would write
in and tell us what you think. I think that's
a good you know, and make them funny. What city
has had the biggest upswing? I said, hero RC. However,
you want to say the biggest, the best increase in
(25:33):
all good things in the last we'll call it the
last decade or so. Well, I think even the fun
since the twenty first century started Raleigh would be another
city that I would say, like the North Carolina area
population I mentioned Charlotte has exploded. But yeah, if you
had bought stock in a city in two thousand, decent
sized city, what city has exploded the most in the
(25:54):
last twenty five years in a positive way. It's a
fun discussion. I wanted to play this too. Speaking of
fun discussions, Jammel Hill sitting next to Scott Jennings, our
friend on CNN formerly of ESPN, Jammel Hill. Trump is
a white supremacist, Jammel Hill. Jammel Hill argued last night
trans men or whatever it is men and women's sports
(26:19):
is similar in her mind to Martin Luther King and
the civil rights movement. This is the argument she made.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
Listen, it's bathrooms today, it's sports today, is sports tomorrow,
It's the military today.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
It's also sports today.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
By the way, Yeah, it is sports today.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Americans agreeable, Oh, that's fine.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
And guess what the majority sometimes is wrong. That also happens,
right because the majority used to believe that doctor Martin
Luther King Junior was somebody who was a threat, that
somebody who was not a good American. The majority of
people used to be against civil rights?
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Were they right? No, they weren't. Okay, So I asked
Jamel on Twitter, We'll see if she responds buck based
on her analogy there, this has to me that Leah Thomas,
who is formerly Will Thomas, the dude who decided to
become a chick and win a women's championship, he has
to be the Jackie Robinson of transports. I want to
(27:13):
hear how Jamel Hill responds if the civil rights movement
hero in sports is Jackie Robinson, right, the first black
baseball player universally beloved now number forty two, everybody wears
that they have Jackie Robinson Day in Major League Baseball.
That would mean, by her analogy, that Leah Thomas is
the Jackie Robinson of transports, and that one day everyone
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will pretend to be a fan or will be a
fan of Leah Thomas. And I would love to hear
her response. I feel like I don't know this, but
I could guess this with pretty high certainty that you
and Jamil Hill have not seen eye to eye in
the sports world on a whole range of things for
(27:57):
some time. And you know what, sad, I liked Jammelle before.
I think Twitter broke her brain. She was Actually, she's
a great example of somebody that could have had an
incredible career in sports, because I do think she has
a sense of humor and she obviously is not an
awful communicator if she's on television and had success there,
But she got broken by Twitter. I really think she
(28:22):
got to the idea that far left wing insanity bonkers Twitter, Like,
why would a black woman be arguing and trying to
make an analogy in a rational way that the civil
rights movement is similar to men and women's sports. I mean,
just from a rational league, leave aside the politics. Would
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you really want to try to analogize Jackie Robinson and
Leah Thomas Because that's where her clear argument leads itself.
And I just think it's broken brain. I think they
bought into this idea buck that is so broken that
they can't come back from it. Also, what are what
(29:03):
is the next civil Let's say they won this rount.
Let's say they ended up winning this round at some point,
and so we all walk around using they pronouns when
told to you and all this stuff, which I would
note this is the opposite of what the of the
trajectory of the country recently. But let's say that somehow
this on this eighty twenty or ninety ten issue, they
were able to, I don't know, turn the tables in
(29:25):
a few years and get what does the next civil
rights struggle? Because you know that there has to be
the agitators and the apparatus have to find the next thing.
I mean, I have some ideas, as I've said all along. Eventually,
if they get their way, it will be you have
to be attracted to trans women as a straight man
or else you're a pigot. And you're not allowed to
(29:46):
demand gender on like dating apps or anything. Because anything
that in the real world breaks from the these are
women the same as women narrative is forbidden. So this
keeps going. It doesn't. It doesn't even stop at sports.
It's gonna be, hey, you know, you just graduated from
college and like you're now on match dot com, Like,
(30:07):
are you swiping right on a man or a woman?
Not allowed to big it? If you're not, they're real women,
You're a bigot. If you're not interested in sleeping with
a dude pretending to be a chick. Yeah, that's where
it goes.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
That.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
That is definitely where it goes. So that's why one
thing that we have learned, I think pretty thoroughly on
the right is the slippery slope is real, and in fact,
the slippery slope is undefeated. When when you try to
buy off the communists by giving them what they want,
they just get to the next demand, and now they're emboldened,
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ninety eight ninety eight ninety eight. Today News and politics,
but also a little comic relief. Clay Travis at Buck Sexton.
Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you
get your I Guess. So my wife, Clay is, if
I seem it all energetic today, it's because I woke
(32:07):
up this morning or you know, I usually wake up
around like seven am. Woke up and there was not
a stir in the house, nothing, And I went back
to sleep for an hour and it was so quiet
because my wife is with her parents. She's taken a
couple of days up there because her mom is is
a super you know, super mom. So there's like what
I can do to help with the baby. And then
(32:28):
there's what Carrie's mom can do to help with the baby.
And I'm just not as like I try. I'm just
not as a deaf. She can just snap her fingers
and like everything is changed and everything is clean, the
baby is. I don't have that skill set quite the
same way. I'm getting better. I can change the diapers
and do the things, but I'm in that zone now
where I'm gonna try not to change out of the
(32:48):
same pajamas for like three days and watch anything that
sci fi or zombie based because Carrie hates that stuff
and just just gonna me the dog and junk TV
and gluten free pizza. Now that's exciting. Not as exciting though,
as the little bird chirping in my ear that told
(33:12):
me that you, sir, went to a musical last night.
That's yes, I am. I am. I don't know how
you got tipped off, but I've been caught red handed here. Lara,
my lovely wife, got us tickets to go watch the
(33:34):
Michael Jackson musical at Tea Pack in downtown Nashville at
Tennessee Performing Arts Theater, and I went to I went
to watch the Michael Jackson Musical. Now, I will say,
while I am very anti musical, as you all well know,
and I do not believe any heterosexual men should go
watch musicals. I don't want to interrupt you keep going,
(33:56):
but I've got big thoughts on this. Go ahead. The
Michael Jackson Musical is basically kind of just a Michael
Jackson concert, right, Okay, okay, I thought right right. They
did this also on Broadway with the Beatles. If you
there's like a Beatles cover band that was doing a
clay a whole. On a second, you've got kind of
a double controversy that you've just walked into here. Now, yes,
(34:17):
you going to I appreciate that Laura is trying to
turn you into slightly less of a flip flop wearing philistine. Okay,
I get it. Good work, Laura. She wants to culture
you a little bit outside of just the sports and
legal realms. However, Michael Jackson, are are we where are
we on that? I'll be honest with you, I don't
(34:39):
you know. I think that Billy Jean may have been
the greatest pop song of its era, like of the
of the eighties. Like I think you can make that argument,
I feel weird about the Michael Jackson music. Now, Man,
I know, I say, oh, separate the art from the artist,
but wow, I don't know, how do you feel about that? Yeah,
I definitely thought at first of all, I think you
(35:01):
have to separate the art from the artists too, because
the truth of the matter is a lot of people
who have made tremendous art throughout human history actually had
really dark, awful sides. My wife's argument here, because she
pays more attention to this, is Michael Jackson was never
convicted of any crime. They tried to convict him, they
(35:23):
were unable to do so, and she just doesn't believe it.
She thinks that he is scarred because of his relationship
with the dad, which is clear. I mean that the dad,
the Jackson family dad was his name, Joe Jackson, I think,
was incredibly abusive of the family, and that Michael Jackson
(35:47):
really kind of just went into a shell. There's an
interesting theory out there. I don't know if you've seen
it in the Britney Spears era. It maybe has some
cogency that a lot of people psychologically when they becomes
super famous or are forever frozen at the age with
which they became famous for the first time, because their
(36:08):
progression as normal as humans ceases at that point in time,
and I do find it kind of fascinating in that respect.
The music is, I mean, Michael Jackson's music is pretty incredible.
It really was more like a concert than a Broadway play.
But this is a musical. I didn't think I'd go
to a musical anytime soon after my attack on music.
(36:29):
And you enjoyed it, and that was fine. It was good.
I didn't just like it at all. It was a
solid performance all around. Raymond Royo up next.
Welcome in hour number two Wednesday edition Clay Travis buck
Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.
Next hour. Top of the next hour, I just saw
they have locked the doors of the on the conclave
that will decide the next pope. We will head to Rome,
Vatican City. In particular, I suppose to talk with Raymond
(00:23):
Arroyo of Fox News about that potential process. And there
is much going on that will be dramatic, I would
imagine as we wait to see whether white pope will
white smoke will climb into the night sky in Rome
(00:43):
to let us know that there has been a new
pope crowned, or whether they will go into tomorrow. I
believe they have votes in the morning and the afternoon.
I was doing reading to try to familiarize myself with
this process because it's been a little while since we
selected a pope, and waiting to see when the smoke
comes out, whether it's black meaning they have not selected
(01:05):
a hope, or white meaning they have selected a hope.
How much attention do you pay to this as a
Catholic Buck A huge probably, I don't know thirty percent
of this audience roughly probably is Catholic. Do you pay
attention and know any of these names? Are there any like?
How do you think the average Catholic person in the
United States follows this process. I think it's a very
(01:27):
small number of people who know much about the possible
candidates among the various cardinals. So but I think that
there will be There is tremendous interest in who the
Pope will be, but there's not a lot of detailed
knowledge out there in general for what the possibilities are,
(01:47):
what they've stood for in the past. I'm speaking in
broad terms. If you are a world class expert on
all cardinals from all over the world, my apologies for
not thinking of you right away, But generally, I think
I think it's just we want to find out who
the Pope is. Pope's been a big deal for a
long time. I'm sending these to producer Greg right now.
(02:09):
I know he is listening. I want to add this
audio because I think it kind of epitomizes how lost
much of our media has become. But I don't know
how many of you know this story, so let me
give you a little bit of a background. Buck you
may or may not know this story. Three years ago
Florida passed that don't say the so called don't say
(02:30):
Gay bill in the state of Florida. Disney sued and
it turned into a major cultural flashpoint, such that Live
on Air on ESPN, which is owned by Disney, they
paused to have a moment of silence in allyship with
(02:51):
LGBTQI people who were upset by this. Can I just
also point out the media went full throttle so that
they could convince people the bill is the Parental Rights
and Education Bill. It's HB fifteen fifty seven, correct parental
rights and education. No where does it say you can't
say gay, and it's not even the name of the bill.
So it was a pure propaganda operation, completely accurate. And
(03:16):
I'm glad you brought that up because I was gonna
hammer this home because I think it has been discussed
recently as we've been talking about what books. Remember they
had the Supreme Court argument and even some people on
the left were like, man, that's crazy that you would
be reading these books to kindergarteners. All the Florida bill did,
(03:37):
Ron Desantus one hundred percent right on this. All the
bill did was say there will be no sex or
gender instruction for kindergartener, first, second, third grade kids. I
would even argue, I've got a fourth grader, he's ten.
I think you could expand it probably to fourth and
fifth grade, two until a kid gets to puberty ish age.
(04:03):
Fifth grade, sixth grade I think is certainly early a
little bit, but at least that's in the vicinity of
when kids might become aware of puberty. Why in the
world would any public school need to be teaching gender
sex based in any way issues to classrooms. Well, you know,
it's a question that we actually have to keep answering, right,
(04:26):
it's not a rhetorical question. Why do they want to
do this, because it's in doctrination, because it actually goes
to the core ideology, the core of the ideology they're
trying to present, which is that and it does not
make sense. But a lot of things don't make sense
that people ardently believe, right, you know, democrats think socialism
(04:47):
is going to work this time. Anyway, a lot of
things don't make sense, but one of them is that
doctors get the gender of the baby wrong. Yes, and
so it starts from the very youngest age that somehow
now they can like reverse bioengineer this, and they need
to get people as young as possible because otherwise it's
(05:09):
too clear that this is a choice, or this is
a psychological condition that develops as you get older. They
want this to be it is like it is like
skin color. It is an immutable thing that you must understand.
Is a is You know a person is that way,
and there's no change again, and so we must all
(05:30):
respect it equally. It is not like skin color as
we know it is. It is in fact, not a
physical manifestation at all, even though there are people who
are intersex, but that is not what transgenderism is. And
now we get to why they want to push it
so early, and why they want to push it on
such young kids because Clay in their mind. Also, this
(05:53):
is not about sex. This is about civil rights. This
is a civil rights issue. This is like training anti
race racism into second graders. Well, we got an audio
clip for that, but I think many people don't know
this happens. So the reason why I'm bringing it up
today is Disney has announced this morning that they are
going to be building a brand new theme park, New
(06:15):
disney World, Disneyland, whatever it is, in Abu Dhabi and
in Abu Dhabi, in the country of the UAE. I
believe you're better at geography than me. I looked it up.
In the UAE, you can be beheaded if you are gay,
So not exactly an expansive view of human sexuality in
(06:37):
the UAE. In the UAE, you could probably say gay,
but then you might be beheaded. Yes, it's a bad part. Okay,
So over this FLOORI to bill, which, as Buck Rightley
points out, was misattributed to a don't say gay bill.
It just said kindergarten first second, third graders can't be
gender instructed Disney, and I don't think this got enough tension,
(06:59):
which owns e s. They had a moment of silence
live on the air during a women's basketball game. This
is l Duncan. I have tagged her on Twitter to
ask when we should expect the moment of silence over
the new theme park that Disney is opening in Abu Dhabi.
(07:19):
But listen to what you could have tuned in just
to watch a women's college basketball game on a ESPN.
This is what you would have heard. This is what
they did over the Florida Bill. Listen cut twenty six.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Legislation happening in Florida and across other states as well
that are targeting our LGBTQI plus communities. Many of our
colleagues here at ESPN have planned and organized a walkout
that will be happening at three pm Eastern today. And
to be honest with you, we thought we were going
to come here today and really celebrate a sport that
has meant so much and done so much, including for
(07:54):
so many in the LGBTQI plus communities. But we understand
the gravity of this legislation and also how it is
affecting so many families across this country. And because of that,
our ally shit is going to take a front seat.
And with that, we're gonna pause in solidarity.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Okay, I'm going to play another cut for you that
I've had them introduced. Buck. This is during the women's
NCAA basketball tournament. You tune it in. It was South
Carolina and Howard are playing. You are a parent and
you're like, hey, I want to watch this basketball game
with my little girl or my little boy. You put
on sports. That is what you saw. Okay. This was
(08:35):
their reaction to the Florida bill. Now Disney is building
a theme park in Abu Dhabi where theoretically you could
be beheaded if you are gay. What is the necessity
that a ESPN must undertake here? Now, Buck? First off,
do we need to do a fact finding mission? Is
this going to be like Clay and Buck's excellent Abu
Dhabi adventure? Do we have to show up to this
new Is Minnie Mouse going to be wearing a Burco? Like?
(08:57):
How does this go? It's a fabulous question. And let
me say this. I don't begrudge companies that are global
in nature deciding to try and reach the largest global audience.
What I am opposed to is when you wag your
finger and lecture all of us in America and then
(09:19):
your company engages in behavior which is far worse than
what you are complaining about occurring here, and you are
shut up and you say nothing at all about it. Well,
what you see is with the ideology of the left
in America, it's all about power dynamics and who they
think they can bully, And in this country they can bully,
(09:41):
particularly what they views as a predominantly Christian and majority
white although you know it's not a huge majority, but
they think that they can bully them as much as
they possibly want to do absolutely anything that they want,
and we may comply, like we might actually just completely
That's why the gender thing, for example, matters so much
(10:02):
to them, because if they can get us to say that,
you know what, that that six foot eight, two hundred
and fifty pound dude who thinks he's a woman because
he grew his hair a little long, has't gotten a
haircut in a while and is dunking on all the
chicks on the basketball court and scoring one hundred and
forty points a game. That's good. That's civil rights, that's progress.
If they can make us do that, they can make
us do absolutely anything. But they know that they can't
(10:25):
actually pull this stuff off Clay in China, they can't
pull it off in the Middle East, they can't pull
it off in Africa. They can't pull off the wokeness
routine in countries or and or continents where overwhelmingly it's
one non white and two it's gonna be rejected. They're
gonna say, no, that's crazy to us. So this is
(10:45):
the well, the whole thing is a scam. They don't
actually mean what they say. On the left. Okay, this
is even crazier buck. This is the game itself. So
I just played the introduction of ESPN saying we're gonna
have a moment of silence. This is the game broadcasters.
I've never seen or heard this happen anywhere. This is
on ESPN's broadcast. You are sitting down to watch South
(11:09):
Carolina Howard Women's college basketball tournament. And this is what
the two game broadcasters said right after L. Duncan tossed
it to them. While the game is going on itself.
Listen to cut twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Corney Lyle Carolyn Pack. Now, Normally at this time we
would take a look back at the first half, but
there are things bigger than basketball that need to be
addressed at this time. Our friends, our family, our coworkers,
the players and coaches in our community are hurting right now.
And at three o'clock, about eight minutes ago, our LGBTQIA
plus teammates at Disney asked for our solidarity and support,
(11:47):
including our companies support in opposition to the Parental Rights
in Education bill in the state of Florida and similar legislature.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Across the United States.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
And a threat to any human right is a threat
to all human rights. Today, at this time, Courtney and
I we're gonna take a pause from our broadcast to
show our love and support for our friends, our families,
and our colleagues.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
The game is going on right now, and that's the
way it can, you believe. I don't think this got
enough attention when it happened. This was a couple of
years ago. But this morning, when I saw the Abu
Dhabi news, I couldn't help but think, well, this is interesting,
right if you're so opposed to the Florida Bill, which
buck you rightly pointed out, all it did was say kindergarten,
(12:39):
first second third graders were not going to instruct an
education related to sex, wasn't gay, trans anything else, which
overwhelming majorities of parents support, And that was their reaction
to the Florida Bill. Well, now they're building an entire
theme park in a country that believes gay people should
be beheaded, And I just think it illustrates the depths
(13:01):
of the hypocrisy that there will not be a sentilla
of noise that comes out of ESPN over this Disney
corporate decision. I mean, you're talking about gay people, but
what what do you think? How do you think it
goes for you and Abi Dabi Abu Dhabi. If you
walk around you're like, no, I'm actually a they. I
don't think it's the authorities. I don't think first of all,
(13:22):
it's an authoritarian state. They detain people, they torture people
to do whatever they want. I mean, it's a nice
place to visit. If you're an American or European you
got a lot of money. Just don't step out of
line at all, and don't talk about politics to anybody. Yeah,
I mean you think you walk around you're like, you know,
my name, my name is in Steve, it's actually Sally,
and like you have to use the preferred pronouns. I
don't even know what they would do with you, but
(13:43):
it would be really bad. They would not well this
is like imply the gays for Gaza. They would definitely
take you for a tour of their of their upper
deck and then the of the of the rooftop, and
then they would throw you off of it. Well, you know,
the American left is unseerious about on a global scale,
uh lgbt q I A plus rights because they just
(14:05):
the Muslim world by and large is allowed to do
whatever they want and with almost no with no protests,
no nothing. They'll never even leftists in America won't even
say that the the mother load of oppression when it
comes to gender and LGBTU, TQ and all that the
mother load of I mean, the real is the Islamic world.
(14:27):
They will never talk about that. By the way, as
a guy who isn't really as you point out a
lot diehard sports fan, can you believe that that exists,
that that audio on a sports broadcast network, that that video,
that that would have even occurred? Does that just blow
your mind? It blows my mind. Even though I know
how crazy these people are, the fact that happens still
(14:48):
blows my mind. I think a lot of sports viewers,
which I can't speak to, be one much, you know,
but I think that Clay, they just get They're just
used to just tuning. It's like when actors used to
give their p onions on things and I'm like, I
just want to see your movie. If it's good, just
shut up, I don't want. I feel like a lot
of sports viewers have gotten used to and maybe now
this is changing, all right. They're doing some you know,
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Hang with Clay and Buck podcast, Welcome back into Clay
and Buck. We're gonna dive a little more into this
subject matter. We were just discussing a second ago when
it comes to the gender identity issues that the Democrats
are pushing forward, including a sports commentary colleague of Clay's,
(16:53):
at least in the same industry. It's a colleague in
the same industry who had quite a comparison between trans
women playing sports to make and Clay is going to
play that for you when we come back here in
a second. I still keep looking at Clay and asking
this question. I think once every three or four months
or so, I say, how is it possible that a
(17:15):
sports network like ESPN could have so thoroughly lost its
mind considering who its audience is. Yeah, it's a question
that I've been I mean, that's one I'm glad I
started out kick to just kind of because otherwise you're
just kind of sometimes feel like you're yelling into the void.
And so we have built a really good business to
take advantage of the fact that they've lost their minds.
(17:37):
But I just I can't stop thinking about if you're
just a parent, you wanted to watch a women's basketball
game with your eight year old daughter, and you sit
down on your couch and suddenly they're pausing because they're
angry about a bill passed in Florida. And meanwhile they're
building theme parks now in Abu Dhabi. It's crazy. Still
(17:58):
think we got to go in to an Abudhabi adventure?
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the new stadium doesn't open un till twenty twenty seven. Okay,
a couple of years. Nashville we're gonna get a super Bowl,
which is gonna be incredible. I think we're gonna get
the twenty twenty nine or twenty thirty super Bowl, which
for a kid who grew up in Nashville like me,
is on. Like if you had told me when I
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was a kid, Hey, one day, Nashville is gonna have
a Super Bowl, I would have been like, you're crazy.
Much less all the different teams that we have now
and everything else. Do you think Nashville is sorry to
divert from it? We're gonna get back to ESPN craziness
really soon. Here has Nashville had the of any city
in America in the last call it ten years, the
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biggest hero arc if you will, or like you know,
the biggest surge. I mean, I think I think people
put Austin up there, but I think Austin started to
have some I think it's number one. I mean, I'll
just tell you. When I went away to the East
Coast for college in nineteen ninety seven was when I
went off to college and I told people from Nashville
that I was from Nashville, and on the East coast,
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west coast everywhere, they would be like, well, do you
guys have indoor plumbing there? Like that, I would have
wondered if you played the banjo for sure, that's right.
If people were like, oh, Nashville, that sounds like an
awful place, I would say about ten years ago, probably
about two thousand and five two thousand and six, was
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when every time I mentioned that I was from Nashville,
people would say, Oh, that's I went there. That's one
of the most fun cities I've ever visited. And to
the point now where I would argue in my lifetime,
like in the maybe the twenty first century is a
good way to put it. I'm not sure any city
has gone from not very cool in the public perception
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in two thousand to now considered by twenty twenty five
one of the coolest cities in America. Then Nashville. It's
a good question, Like what Austin is a good example,
but I think Austin kind of has faded because I
think Austin they've made some poor choices personally in some
of their leadership. Austin's Charleston's had a big run, a
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big run. You know, a lot of people know about
and love Charleston. Savannah a little bit smaller, but same idea.
My uncle was a cop and Savannah clay in the
nineties and it was tough place. Well where you are Miami,
I would argue, from two thousand to twenty twenty five,
has Miami's maybe the coolest city man West Palm, West
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Palm as well. Actually it's just getting exploded, Yeah, in
a poppy in a in a positive way. It's a
good question, you guys. Has had a great run. But
as a Miami person, I don't even know anything about Tampa.
But you know, sometimes I gotta throw a little shade.
It's it's a little bit like giants jets, you know.
It's like, Oh, Okay, Tampa, the other the other cool
big city in Florida, I would say, and I know
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it's been growing rapidly for a long time. The Phoenix
area has certainly, I think in the last twenty five
years gotten cooler and uh and and really there aren't
that I mean, really, I would say Nashville, Austin Charlotte.
Probably Charlotte has come up some in the in the
overall perception Miami where you are Miami, for sure. California
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cities have lost their their cachet, right, and so I
think some of those other places, whether it's Las Vegas, Boise, Idaho, uh, Phoenix,
where a lot of people from California have moved in
the Western and Western United States, I would say, have
all kind of taken off. There's a lot of people
and I haven't spent any time there. I think we
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got a great affiliate. Oklahoma City is one that I
think a lot of people say is a very cool
place to live that in two thousand wouldn't have been
considered that cool of a place to be. Columbus, Ohio,
I think in the Midwest, has been a city that has,
you know, kind of hot. And then there's the other
the other side of this equation would be the rapid
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deterioration places, which I mean I think, for example, I
know we've got a big affiliate in Portland where in
k ex there. Portland's a beautiful city, but yes, communists
cause a lot of problems in that city. As all
of you who live in the area. No Seattle. I
haven't even been to Seattle. It's actually the next city
that I really want to go to, just because I've
never been. And I think that's kind of weird. It's
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supposed to be so beautiful. It's had a rough go
last let's say ten fifteen years, you know, and you
saw all that. Really, the West Coast cities in general,
with the exception of San Diego, have been on a
I think, been on a kind of a negative trajectory
because of crime, safety, cost of living stuff. Yeah, what
happens when democrats are in charge, which they are entirely
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COVID totally has played in speaking of So that's a
good question. I'm actually curious. No, it's a great question.
I'm curious to see the suggestions because we might have
missed some places that people would that people would write
in and tell us what you think. I think that's
a good you know, and make them funny. What city
has had the biggest upswing? I said, hero RC. However,
you want to say the biggest, the best increase in
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all good things in the last we'll call it the
last decade or so. Well, I think even the fun
since the twenty first century started Raleigh would be another
city that I would say, like the North Carolina area
population I mentioned Charlotte has exploded. But yeah, if you
had bought stock in a city in two thousand, decent
sized city, what city has exploded the most in the
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last twenty five years in a positive way. It's a
fun discussion. I wanted to play this too. Speaking of
fun discussions, Jammel Hill sitting next to Scott Jennings, our
friend on CNN formerly of ESPN, Jammel Hill. Trump is
a white supremacist, Jammel Hill. Jammel Hill argued last night
trans men or whatever it is men and women's sports
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is similar in her mind to Martin Luther King and
the civil rights movement. This is the argument she made.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
Listen, it's bathrooms today, it's sports today, is sports tomorrow,
It's the military today.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
It's also sports today.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
By the way, Yeah, it is sports today.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Americans agreeable, Oh, that's fine.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
And guess what the majority sometimes is wrong. That also happens,
right because the majority used to believe that doctor Martin
Luther King Junior was somebody who was a threat, that
somebody who was not a good American. The majority of
people used to be against civil rights?
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Were they right? No, they weren't. Okay, So I asked
Jamel on Twitter, We'll see if she responds buck based
on her analogy there, this has to me that Leah Thomas,
who is formerly Will Thomas, the dude who decided to
become a chick and win a women's championship, he has
to be the Jackie Robinson of transports. I want to
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hear how Jamel Hill responds if the civil rights movement
hero in sports is Jackie Robinson, right, the first black
baseball player universally beloved now number forty two, everybody wears
that they have Jackie Robinson Day in Major League Baseball.
That would mean, by her analogy, that Leah Thomas is
the Jackie Robinson of transports, and that one day everyone
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will pretend to be a fan or will be a
fan of Leah Thomas. And I would love to hear
her response. I feel like I don't know this, but
I could guess this with pretty high certainty that you
and Jamil Hill have not seen eye to eye in
the sports world on a whole range of things for
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some time. And you know what, sad, I liked Jammelle before.
I think Twitter broke her brain. She was Actually, she's
a great example of somebody that could have had an
incredible career in sports, because I do think she has
a sense of humor and she obviously is not an
awful communicator if she's on television and had success there,
But she got broken by Twitter. I really think she
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got to the idea that far left wing insanity bonkers Twitter, Like,
why would a black woman be arguing and trying to
make an analogy in a rational way that the civil
rights movement is similar to men and women's sports. I mean,
just from a rational league, leave aside the politics. Would
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you really want to try to analogize Jackie Robinson and
Leah Thomas Because that's where her clear argument leads itself.
And I just think it's broken brain. I think they
bought into this idea buck that is so broken that
they can't come back from it. Also, what are what
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is the next civil Let's say they won this rount.
Let's say they ended up winning this round at some point,
and so we all walk around using they pronouns when
told to you and all this stuff, which I would
note this is the opposite of what the of the
trajectory of the country recently. But let's say that somehow
this on this eighty twenty or ninety ten issue, they
were able to, I don't know, turn the tables in
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a few years and get what does the next civil
rights struggle? Because you know that there has to be
the agitators and the apparatus have to find the next thing.
I mean, I have some ideas, as I've said all along. Eventually,
if they get their way, it will be you have
to be attracted to trans women as a straight man
or else you're a pigot. And you're not allowed to
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demand gender on like dating apps or anything. Because anything
that in the real world breaks from the these are
women the same as women narrative is forbidden. So this
keeps going. It doesn't. It doesn't even stop at sports.
It's gonna be, hey, you know, you just graduated from
college and like you're now on match dot com, Like,
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are you swiping right on a man or a woman?
Not allowed to big it? If you're not, they're real women,
You're a bigot. If you're not interested in sleeping with
a dude pretending to be a chick. Yeah, that's where
it goes.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
That.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
That is definitely where it goes. So that's why one
thing that we have learned, I think pretty thoroughly on
the right is the slippery slope is real, and in fact,
the slippery slope is undefeated. When when you try to
buy off the communists by giving them what they want,
they just get to the next demand, and now they're emboldened,
so they don't understand anything other than stopping them, defeating
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but also a little comic relief. Clay Travis at Buck Sexton.
Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you
get your I Guess. So my wife, Clay is, if
I seem it all energetic today, it's because I woke
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up this morning or you know, I usually wake up
around like seven am. Woke up and there was not
a stir in the house, nothing, And I went back
to sleep for an hour and it was so quiet
because my wife is with her parents. She's taken a
couple of days up there because her mom is is
a super you know, super mom. So there's like what
I can do to help with the baby. And then
(32:28):
there's what Carrie's mom can do to help with the baby.
And I'm just not as like I try. I'm just
not as a deaf. She can just snap her fingers
and like everything is changed and everything is clean, the
baby is. I don't have that skill set quite the
same way. I'm getting better. I can change the diapers
and do the things, but I'm in that zone now
where I'm gonna try not to change out of the
(32:48):
same pajamas for like three days and watch anything that
sci fi or zombie based because Carrie hates that stuff
and just just gonna me the dog and junk TV
and gluten free pizza. Now that's exciting. Not as exciting though,
as the little bird chirping in my ear that told
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me that you, sir, went to a musical last night.
That's yes, I am. I am. I don't know how
you got tipped off, but I've been caught red handed here. Lara,
my lovely wife, got us tickets to go watch the
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Michael Jackson musical at Tea Pack in downtown Nashville at
Tennessee Performing Arts Theater, and I went to I went
to watch the Michael Jackson Musical. Now, I will say,
while I am very anti musical, as you all well know,
and I do not believe any heterosexual men should go
watch musicals. I don't want to interrupt you keep going,
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but I've got big thoughts on this. Go ahead. The
Michael Jackson Musical is basically kind of just a Michael
Jackson concert, right, Okay, okay, I thought right right. They
did this also on Broadway with the Beatles. If you
there's like a Beatles cover band that was doing a
clay a whole. On a second, you've got kind of
a double controversy that you've just walked into here. Now, yes,
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you going to I appreciate that Laura is trying to
turn you into slightly less of a flip flop wearing philistine. Okay,
I get it. Good work, Laura. She wants to culture
you a little bit outside of just the sports and
legal realms. However, Michael Jackson, are are we where are
we on that? I'll be honest with you, I don't
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you know. I think that Billy Jean may have been
the greatest pop song of its era, like of the
of the eighties. Like I think you can make that argument,
I feel weird about the Michael Jackson music. Now, Man,
I know, I say, oh, separate the art from the artist,
but wow, I don't know, how do you feel about that? Yeah,
I definitely thought at first of all, I think you
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have to separate the art from the artists too, because
the truth of the matter is a lot of people
who have made tremendous art throughout human history actually had
really dark, awful sides. My wife's argument here, because she
pays more attention to this, is Michael Jackson was never
convicted of any crime. They tried to convict him, they
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were unable to do so, and she just doesn't believe it.
She thinks that he is scarred because of his relationship
with the dad, which is clear. I mean that the dad,
the Jackson family dad was his name, Joe Jackson, I think,
was incredibly abusive of the family, and that Michael Jackson
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really kind of just went into a shell. There's an
interesting theory out there. I don't know if you've seen
it in the Britney Spears era. It maybe has some
cogency that a lot of people psychologically when they becomes
super famous or are forever frozen at the age with
which they became famous for the first time, because their
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progression as normal as humans ceases at that point in time,
and I do find it kind of fascinating in that respect.
The music is, I mean, Michael Jackson's music is pretty incredible.
It really was more like a concert than a Broadway play.
But this is a musical. I didn't think I'd go
to a musical anytime soon after my attack on music.
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And you enjoyed it, and that was fine. It was good.
I didn't just like it at all. It was a
solid performance all around. Raymond Royo up next.
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