January 8, 2025 • 36 mins
Adam Carolla tells us about his experience with the fire and what some of the issues in the state are. Are environmentalists to blame? The climate change crowd weighs in.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show Podcast. Second hour of play and Bock kicks off.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Now we've got Adam Carolla joining us from California. You
all know, Adam, Adam, appreciate you making the time for
us under circumstances. We know a lot going on. It's
a very tough situation. Tell us what you know, what
you're seeing, and what everyone needs to be aware of.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
So yesterday I went to the Equinox Gym on Sunset
Boulevard and pch and I walked out of the place
at about ten forty five in the morning, and I
looked up Sunset Boulevard and I said, I think there's
a fire up there, and that's exactly where it started
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when it started. Then I went into Glendale, California to
do my podcast and subsequently came back to Malibu where
I live at about six in the evening, sat down,
and as soon as my aunt hit the sofa, we
were alerted that it was time to evacuate. So packed
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up what I needed to get by and then drove
out to Burbank, California, and checked into a hotel where
I'm at right now. So obviously, I've been following it
through the news and talking to neighbors and that sort
of thing, but I've not been back since I left
last night.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
How's your home? Do you know personally how your home
has been.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I woke up this morning to a neighbor telling me
it was all gone, and then then the neighbor revised
the report later on to maybe it's still there.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
So that's a that's a big range of reporting from
the neighbor, I'll point out.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Yeah, you know, sometimes the ladies jumped the gun a
little bit with the information. So I was pretty devastated
this morning, and now I'm in some sort of hopeful phase.
But there's really not a great way to get information
because you can't go down there and look for yourself.
(02:14):
So you watch the news and you see little bits
and pieces where you.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Go, oh, that's the restaurant up the street.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
You know, you try to piece together cobble together some information,
but it's pretty much just sitting on pins and needles,
waiting to get back there to see if it's gone
or not.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Now, Adam, you've probably seen the President already. Wait In
has some harsh words for Governor Neuscomb as he calls him.
So President Trump is going right after it here and
specifically saying that there's been inadequate expansion to the water
system and effectively inadequate preparation for an event like this
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by the state of California, perhaps by Los Angeles County.
In addition to that, what is the truth of that?
I mean, for people who don't live there, I think
it's hard to know what's proposed, what's been considered, and
what could have been done.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
I mean, do you have a read on Is there
just growth?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Is there grotesque in competence at play here in terms
of the preparation for an event like this?
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Well, I did twenty minutes on my podcast on today's show,
which was on the subject of most of these fires
are started by downed power line. So we have a
decrepid power grid, and our power lines are not buried.
They're up on power poles, and the power poles are
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eighty years old. So when the winds hit, they knock
the poles down and the hot wires start the fire,
and or when it gets windy, they just shut off
all the power, so you have no power in the
middle of trying to evacuate because we have a decrepit system.
Keep in mind News is now putting more money into
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the high speed rail, which isn't high speed rail from
Bakersfield to Merced, about one hundred and fifty miles way
out of California, in the middle of nowhere. Nobody lives
in Bakersfield or mersaid they're already eighty billion dollars over
budget on it. And I did twenty minutes on why
don't we take that eighty billion dollars or the two
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hundred billion dollars that's going to cost a build rail
from Merced to Bakersfield, which impacts nobody, and use that
money to upgrade our grid and bury those lines up
and down pch where the fire is happening and all
the multimillion dollar houses, there's fire poles fall all over
the place. One of their big problems is power lines.
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Everywhere the fire pole catches on fire, the power lines
come down, the trucks can't pull in, and you can't
evacuate if there's hot wires or even cold power lines
on the ground that you don't.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Know are live or not.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
It's a big issue, and it's insane that we have
the same technologies they had in eighteen seventy five with
the Power polls.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
You've lived in California, not since eighteen seventy five, but
a lot of people have moved in during your lifetime there, Adam,
how would you assess we were just talking on the show.
You know, if the hurricane God Forbid hits Florida, which
happens pretty much every year of different varieties. Right now,
Floridians feel very confident that their governor and their local
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government is going to do the best job possible responding
to that hurricane. What do you think your average Californian
thinks about the city and state leadership in California in
terms of responding to something like this. What value add
if any, is California getting from its political leadership or
is it actually detracting from the innate goodness of many
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of the people in the LA area.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Well, you know, as you know, we're all sort of
vibes and we want the first you know, African American
woman fire chief and mayor, and we get all into that.
But when the s goes down, then we want to
know what's going on. You know, I was looking at
it today and I realized we have an incompetent mayor
Karen Bass, who is in India or something or Africa
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doing something collecting beads. I don't know what she was
doing over there, but she's incompetence. We don't have a
system of reservoirs and water collection and fire hydrants and stuff.
It's all a mess. Obviously. The think about this, the
places that just burn to the ground, the multi million
dollar houses, and I'm not saying two million dollar houses,
(06:42):
I'm saying twenty eight million dollar houses.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
The houses that burn to the ground in the community
were Malibu Palisades and Santa Monica, all overwhelmingly blue, all
Newsome voters, all Karen Bass voters. They voted for all
of this, and now their houses are gone.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I mean that is kind of reaping what you sow
on some level, right, Adam. And so many people have
left California. I was talking about the number of UCLA
and USC flags I see in my Tennessee neighborhood. Now
a lot of them moved to to Florida, where Buck lives. Now,
as a lifelong Californian, have you thought, hey, is it
time to uproot and go somewhere else? Through COVID, I
(07:26):
know you travel all over the country doing your shows.
But has this maybe and many of the other things
that have just kind of strung together calamity after calamity
for Californians. Does it make you want to uproot?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Oh yeah, I bought land in Henderson or Fat, Nevada,
and I'm literally leaving after my podcast to head up
to Vegas and do some shows, but to go look
at my land and meet with the architect and the builder. So,
oh yeah, those plans have been on the table for
a long time because all you do is pay taxes.
(07:59):
And it's it's three parts. It's you pay taxes, you
pay an aortent amount of taxes, you get nothing in return,
and they wag their finger at you and want to
know why you're not doing more or paying your fair share.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
You get villainized. So it's not only the.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Part where you don't get anything, and it's not only
the part where you pay for everything. Then whenever these
guys run for elections, they villainize the people that are
keeping the lights on in California.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Why do you think, Adam, there, there isn't a faster
recognition of what you're describing right there, Whether someone wants
to call it, you know being being red pilled. I
don't know seeing reality reacting to events with with common sense?
Is is it just the ideological? Uh, there's they're so ideological.
It's dug in that there's not enough suffering from the
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bad policy to make people want to try leadership.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
That's different. I mean Gavin Newson was supposed to be
recalled and then he wasn't.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Yeah, I'll tell you there's gonna be a lot of converts.
And I'll tell you where the where the conversion happens
over to the logical side, over to the right side
when you try to build something. So I'll be fast here.
But I've been a builder my whole life. I had
to pull permits on everything. When you have to deal
with the city and pull permits, that's when you become conservative.
(09:27):
And if you hear Bill Maher in the last five
years sounding a little more like us, he brings up
trying to get a solar shack built, right. He wanted
to get solar power in his house. He had to
pull permits. It took him three years. They wouldn't let
him do it. And now he sounds like God because
now he's pied because he doesn't want to bureaucracy. Bill
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Mahersh spoken more about bureaucracy and red tape and burdenso
rules in the last two years than he has in
the thirty years before that.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
It's because he trying to do something.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
All these houses and the palisades, all the houses in Malibu,
all the.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Houses in Santa Monica.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
When they try to rebuild, and a couple of those
yentas from the Coastal Commission tell them no, or you're
gonna have to wait in line, or it's going to
take five years. That's when they're going to turn.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I know, we want your home to be okay. We
want you and everybody else out there listening in LA
to be fine. Questions that you're in the entertainment space.
I know that you have been a Trump supporter for
some time. Has the culture of Los Angeles and the
culture of Hollywood expanded, as it is to many different
locations creating content. How have you found it responding to
(10:44):
the Trump election this time compared to in twenty sixteen
and maybe in twenty twenty. Is there a vibe shift
that you can feel?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah, Remember all of Hollywood. Hollywood are mostly powered, mostly
hypocritical power. Now, if you don't believe me that there's
runaway production. They all film in Canada. Why they film
in Canada they get a tax break. Then they come
back to their homes in Beverly Hills and lecture everyone
about paying a little bit more in taxes so others
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could get a hand up.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Right. So they're all hypocrites, they're.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
All cowards, and they'll go with whatever flow the nation's
go into, especially money wise. You've seen it with Disney,
You've seen it with all these corporations getting rid of DEI.
Now you've seen.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
It with the tech ros.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
So they will line up behind Trump just for commerce.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Well, that's a good thing, that's I think.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Also we're seeing that at them with the break in
the the corporate embargo boycott if you will, of all
things Trump from Amazon now or is it Netflix?
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Who is? You know?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Amazon's doing the forty million dollars deal with Milania for
the boom of the new Milania biography, right, new millennium, Right?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I mean, are we going to see a lot more
of that at them?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Do you think now they realize that they can't just
continue to stiff farm half the country?
Speaker 4 (12:05):
I think so. And also I think as.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Trump's implemented plans bear fruit and start to be effective.
And as the aforementioned Gavin Newsom and the Karen Basses
and all the blue cities and the crime and the
crime on the subway and the fires in Los Angeles,
you know, as Los Angeles and New York City start
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to implode, and as Trump's policies bear fruit, I think
You're going to wake up even the heaviest sleepers.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
And I would add this to Adam, thanks for coming
on with us, and we certainly are wishing you the best.
You know this, and I've seen it happen a lot,
the amount of times you're on a television show or
you're on some sort of production and guys come up
who have the cameras, or guys come up who are
building the sets, and they just whisper, you know, something like, man,
(13:00):
I'm with you, You're right about everything. There's actually a
huge contingent even in the entertainment space, that agrees with
a lot of what we say every single day.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Oh yeah, And it's always a sort of blue collar
side of it.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
So he's the guys on the.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Dark side of the bright lights, you know, Yeah, the
grits and the cameramen. You know the truck drivers, all
those guys, the teams. They're always the guys who quietly
tell you they agree and then pull their mask back
up real quick under their way.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
That's right, Adam, Best of luck. Thank you for making
the time. I know it's a crazy time right now
out in LA. If you hear anything else you want
to call in an update is fel free. We appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Man, Well, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Guys, for sure, that's Adam Carolla. Awesome dude out in
La Lifelong, California, and you just heard it from him.
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I mean, that's I mean, credit to him, that's pretty compelling.
But I think as a lot of these guys who
were longtime Californians, you can just feel the disappointment, like
they don't like you were in New York, like you
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loved living and you don't want to abandon a place
that you lived and you loved, but they just force
you out. I know, it's a different issue. It is.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
It is heartbreaking for me to see just in terms
of what happens when things go wrong in a place
that you grew up and that you love.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Heartbreaking for me to see.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
People standing so far back in the subways in New
York City because they're just afraid, yeah, their backs their
backs literally to the wall when they're on the subway
platforms because they're afraid of some maniac pushing them in
front of an oncoming train. Because of some of the
incidents that have happened in the subway recently. It doesn't
have to you know, it doesn't have to be this way.
(16:32):
And when you know, Adam, I thought that was really
interesting when he was laying out the power line issue.
I've also we've got a lot of people writing in
by the Way to say that there should be more
water collection mechanisms, that the water system and what California
we know has water problems as it is, and and
I think they've gotten a lot of rain the last
year or two and there's been very little effort to
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try to gather that well, you know, to collect it
for for later use in a reservoir in some form.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
So there's a lot that could be done. But why
doesn't California have world class infrastructure?
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Good to you think world class infrastructure? I mean, how
much money have they spent on the high speed train
to nowhere and the tracks that don't actually do anything?
And then you think how much money have they spent
on having enough firefighters and having enough gear in place
to deal with something like this.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
You pay fourteen percent state income tax and I paid
it in California, and you don't have enough fireman. I
think also the mayor just cut the fire budget last year.
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Speaker 2 (18:35):
All right, So we've got a lot of interesting stuff
coming in here on the email front about the situation
in California, the wildfires that are breaking out there. We'll
also get some of your calls here eight hundred two
eight two two eight A two. Joan writes. The travesty
of the California fires is that original settlers and forest
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managers developed the fire control measures that worked over many decades.
They realized long ago that they were living in a
desert region and the Santa Ana winds were very dangerous
if there was a fire. They employed controlled burns, fire pits,
and other measures to prevent the spread of fires. Experts
predicted that the fire risks would increase when enviros started
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their insane lawsuits a few decades ago. The legislature could
fix the problem with the lass, with the laws to
permit sound forestry management. However, it is California here, Clay.
I would I would point out this that I think
one of the great frustrations a lot of people have
as they see this unfold is while we're saying, look,
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you know, I understand the most important thing now is
your thoughts and prayers go for everybody who's affected, Go
to everybody who's affected, and that emergency services do the
best job that they can and save as many people
in houses as as possible. There is always going to
be a conversation about the response, the political leadership, the
culpability or the lack of preparation in that for that leadership.
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But you know, they also always want to make it
about climate change. And I think that that, unfortunately is
it's a very deeply ideological divide. And I think it
also means that you don't get to focus in on
things that would actually help. Saying that the global temperature
is increasing whatever they think that it is on a
(20:23):
yearly basis is not helpful in actually dealing with this
at all. But it then turns you see what I mean,
all of the focus and energy becomes diverted from immediate
actionable measures to do something about this too. Hey, it's
(20:44):
climate change. Now we need to pass some bill in Congress,
you know what I mean? Yeah, And actually bucket kind
of ties in. I was reading a great piece in
the Wall Street Journal a couple of days ago about
critical race theory and how it actually just stise the
argument itself. In other words, they get it completely backward
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that actually Western civilization is what allows critical race theory
to even exist because without Western civilization, we would all
still be living in such poor environments that nobody would
be able to worry about race and gender and ethnicity.
But what I'm hearing from a lot of people is
climate change actually is preventing the situation that would provide
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more help for issues associated with climate right, So in
other words, we should have way more reservoirs to be
holding water, to be able to provide more water for
the people in Los Angeles area. To your point, we
had a really great winter, I believe in the Sierra
Madre Mountains. They now have filled up the reservoirs to
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record levels over the last generation or so, but we
don't have enough, so we still lose a lot of
that water, which is what Trump has said.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
It goes out into the Pacific Ocean. It isn't recollected.
And one reason we don't have more reservoirs is because
the climate change people are concerned about the impact of
the reservoirs on the climate. So then you end up
with this situation where it becomes almost a self fulfilling
prophecy because you're not fighting the actual ravages of the climate.
As as Adam said, and also as the guy who
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called in who used to fly plane said, this is
something that existed throughout the history of this depography. Right,
It's not like wildfires just started in LA now. They've
been going on for as long as Los Angeles has
existed as a community, Yes, and long before.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
You would think that also improvements in technology. I saw
people sharing online that even if power went out in
their area, they still were able to stay or rather,
if the internet went out in the area, they were
still a bit to stay on because of starlink and
how and that meant that there is additional communication capability
in some of these areas that have been hit by
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you know, outages because because of the fire. You would
think that with increased technology and also the increased impetus
of more and more of these kinds of how more
and more housing and habit you know, inhabitants in some
of these areas that we know are at risk of
these fires, that they would have more sophisticated systems in place. Instead.
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It just feels like, as you're watching this and it's
devastating and it's a gut punch just to see this
happening to you know, our fellow American's fellow human beings.
It looks like not very much is done at all
to improve the overall infrastructure. I mean, I'm not saying
not much as being done by the firefighters on the
front lines now, I just mean in terms of the
state of California getting it in advance of this and
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exceeding previous capabilities to be able to blunt this kind
of a fire. It's it seems to me like a
lot of people writing in saying the same thing, which
is that this is this needs to be addressed. Pete
writes in California has a water system built fifty years
ago for a population of twenty million. The state now
has forty million people, but the greenies have made it
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impossible to enlarge the state's water system. The state needs
more dams, which create reservoirs needed to store the snow
melt from the sierras and screw the delta smell.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Yeah, that's what I've heard from a lot of people,
is that there needs to be more reservoir building. The
problem is that, as he just laid out, you got
the environmentalist to say, oh, no, we're going to have
an impact on the insert fish or you know, random
bird or random salamander. And as a result, you have
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to deal with this in the LA area and I don't.
That's what's so frustrating about it is the people who
are making the argument about climate change are actually making
the climate more dangerous based on the policies that they
implement and endorse. And it's like, to your point, Buck,
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the cognition like it doesn't connect. Oh, we're making things
worse while we're trying to advocate to make things better.
It's like they can't process that connection because they're so
focused on their own moral righteousness associated with climate change
that they don't understand the consequences of their own actions.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yes, and that means that you wouldn't get the kind
of respond I mean, you're you're not getting the kind
of action and response to to fix these things from
a you know, a community or a collective. Dare I say,
you know, there shouldn't be such a divide over like, well,
how do we agree how do we deal with this
in the future, Like when you have a bad hurricane
Clay and if they don't have you know, if the
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levee isn't big enough, or if they don't have enough resource,
everything can sort of agree with these with these wildfires.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
I mean the front page the New York Times.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
I've seen the past, it's, you know, well, this is
why we need to pass a bill, you know, mandating
electric cars.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
It's like, what are you people talking about? That's that's
not what the problem is. I think also it ties
into your question, and you have a unique perspective on
it because you're a lifelong York City resident. What happened
in normal city? Yeah, oh yeah, oh careful, I don't
want the tax hounds on your scent. What had to happen,
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you know in New York City was New York City
got so awful that people were willing to elect Rudy
Giuliani and they were willing to say, hey, you know what,
the crime is so bad, the just deterioration of city
living is so bad that we're willing to change our trajectory.
And I think that happened in twenty twenty four. A
lot of black, Asian Hispanic voters finally said, looked around
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and said, our community actually getting better. What's going to
take for LA to make that choice?
Speaker 4 (26:40):
You know?
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Karen Bass against Rick Caruso was that battle right, and
Caruso lost because to Adam's point. All of these left
wing liberals said, oh, Karen bass is our solution, She's
our salvation. We got to have a black woman running
Los Angeles. Well, now she's in Ghana. The city's burning.
Rick Caruso is rightly pointing out that there's also of
flaws responding to this crisis to many of those people.
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Do any of those people make the connection that their
vote has the consequence of making their life worse. That's
what has to happen. It's almost like an intervention. You know,
you can be an alcoholic, but until you recognize that
you have an issue with alcohol, everybody else pointing to
it and saying, hey, dude, maybe you should have less
to drink, it doesn't register until you make that connection
inside your brain. And frustrating because it does. It takes
(27:26):
a long time for an attic to recognize the addiction. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Absolutely, I'll take some calls coming up here, and also
we'll talk about you know, Fetterman on the Clay mentioned this,
Fetterman on the immigration issue making some sense and not
the first time. Also, Democrats what they are not willing
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We are breaking down the absolute latest and awful situation
in Los Angeles wildfires continuing to spread our thanks to
Adam crowa comedian who joined us at the top of
the second hour. Listening to the show regularly awesome guy.
His house may or may not be burned down. He
doesn't know, but he kind of took us into the
window of what life in Los Angeles surrounding these wildfires
(29:03):
is like. Will continue to break all that down. We
come back top of the next hour. We're going to
pivot a bit. There's a Lake and Riley Act that
is now in front of the Senate. John Fetterman went
on with Fox News did an interview. I think he's
going to vote for most of the Trump cabinet nominees,
not least, because he sees the way the wind is blowing,
(29:26):
for lack of a better way to describe it, in Pennsylvania,
where a Democrat senator lost Dave McCormick was elected, and
where Trump won by roughly one hundred and twenty thousand
votes in that state. His Senate seat still several years
away from being up for reelection, and he will be
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think it actually kind of ties in because we've had
a couple of callers talk about leaving California. This is
four straight years that California has led the nation in departures.
(31:32):
Listen to the states where people are moving. South Carolina
number one overall, Texas number two, North Carolina number three,
Florida your home state now number four, Tennessee my home
state number five in that list Tennessee, Florida and Texas
no state income tax. Where are people moving from Pennsylvania,
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New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, California. This is as we
get ready for twenty twenty eight and twenty thirty two
in the presidential election cycle, they're going to be redoing
the map. In twenty thirty there is a profound shift
in power that is moving to red states that is
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only continuing to accelerate, and I think a lot of
you listening to us right now have found yourself moving
to states that more reflect your values. Red states are thriving,
and I think this is going to end up buck
being maybe the biggest legacy of COVID overall is the
amount of power rolling into these Red states and the
(32:38):
amount of population growth economic growth that's going to follow.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
I'm living it here, right, I mean, you're a born
and raised Red Stater and Tennessee is still going strong
and doing great and getting a lot of the people
that have decided they'd had enough elsewhere. I sit here
as somebody who I look. I mean, until not that
long ago, so I thought that New York was the
single greatest place in the entire world.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
I really believe that.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
And I had done a fair amount of traveling some
pretty nasty places for the CIA, but I had done
a fair amount of traveling, and I just thought New
York City was incredible. But with COVID and everything else
piled on top of it, it just felt like too
much had gone too far to ignore it. And I
think a lot of people are recognizing that you have
(33:24):
a tremendous amount of advantage in your career as well,
if you're flexible at being able to move. You know,
it used to be for certain jobs, Clay, you had
to be in certain places. That was very much the case.
And I know they're bringing more and more people back
into the office for investment banking, for example in New
York things like that, But if you want to be
in finance, you really had to be in New York City,
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you know, certainly twenty thirty years ago.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
And now you.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Know, people open you know, hedge funds and they do
it wherever they want, and they open mutual funds and
they can live anywhere in the country. So yeah, it's
it's a different demographic America, you know, going forward, because
of what happened during COVID.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
And I also still believe maybe this is.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Am I am I convincing myself of this Clay that
there was still in the back of people's minds a
lot of frustration in this last election about COVID stuff
that oh, I think you're right to it, you know,
I didn't get talked about. But I still feel like
people the overall sense that the Democrats there was madness there,
there was something where some kind of insanity had overtaken
(34:27):
the Democrat Party. It was COVID in the and the
gender madness. You know, those were the two areas where
I feel like it was just too much.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
And this is what I was saying yesterday for those
of us who were right on almost everything COVID, and
trust me, it was a small group, particularly in the media.
I know a lot of you were right in the
way that you lived your lives. We're not going to
get a definite. Hey, I was wrong. I think I
missed up yesterday and said that Martin McCarey was getting
(34:55):
What did I say. I think I said that he
was maybe getting the I think he's get the CDC.
He's going right, Yeah, I think I think I said FDA.
I think I screwed that up. I think he's getting
the CDC or whatever it is. You're seeing these guys
get elevated who were right about COVID, doctor Bodacharia out
in out in California, the people that were the most
(35:16):
outspoken about this in the scientific community, in the medical community,
Fdachie been chosen to do that. Yeah, I wanted to
make sure I got that right. But that's as close
to an acknowledgment of wrongdoing that we're going to get.
Just like the Zuckerberg statement that we talked about yesterday,
that's about as far as people are going to go
(35:38):
is saying hey, I'm changing everything, but not acknowledging in
the process that they were wrong about everything. This is
about as good a vindication as we're going to get.
I think you're right. I do think it factored in
in a big way in the twenty twenty four elections,
because I meet a lot of people out there still
who say, hey, this was the first year I ever
voted for Trump. That's something had to change in order
(35:59):
to move them in that direction.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
The single biggest moment I think of policy for the
income administration play is going to be seen on the
illegal immigration issue. Let's dive into where that stands and
also this Betterman comment that has gotten a lot of
attention and where the Democrats are on deporting illegal criminals.
Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show Podcast. Second hour of play and Bock kicks off.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Now we've got Adam Carolla joining us from California. You
all know, Adam, Adam, appreciate you making the time for
us under circumstances. We know a lot going on. It's
a very tough situation. Tell us what you know, what
you're seeing, and what everyone needs to be aware of.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
So yesterday I went to the Equinox Gym on Sunset
Boulevard and pch and I walked out of the place
at about ten forty five in the morning, and I
looked up Sunset Boulevard and I said, I think there's
a fire up there, and that's exactly where it started
(00:48):
when it started. Then I went into Glendale, California to
do my podcast and subsequently came back to Malibu where
I live at about six in the evening, sat down,
and as soon as my aunt hit the sofa, we
were alerted that it was time to evacuate. So packed
(01:12):
up what I needed to get by and then drove
out to Burbank, California, and checked into a hotel where
I'm at right now. So obviously, I've been following it
through the news and talking to neighbors and that sort
of thing, but I've not been back since I left
last night.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
How's your home? Do you know personally how your home
has been.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I woke up this morning to a neighbor telling me
it was all gone, and then then the neighbor revised
the report later on to maybe it's still there.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
So that's a that's a big range of reporting from
the neighbor, I'll point out.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Yeah, you know, sometimes the ladies jumped the gun a
little bit with the information. So I was pretty devastated
this morning, and now I'm in some sort of hopeful phase.
But there's really not a great way to get information
because you can't go down there and look for yourself.
(02:14):
So you watch the news and you see little bits
and pieces where you.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Go, oh, that's the restaurant up the street.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
You know, you try to piece together cobble together some information,
but it's pretty much just sitting on pins and needles,
waiting to get back there to see if it's gone
or not.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Now, Adam, you've probably seen the President already. Wait In
has some harsh words for Governor Neuscomb as he calls him.
So President Trump is going right after it here and
specifically saying that there's been inadequate expansion to the water
system and effectively inadequate preparation for an event like this
(02:54):
by the state of California, perhaps by Los Angeles County.
In addition to that, what is the truth of that?
I mean, for people who don't live there, I think
it's hard to know what's proposed, what's been considered, and
what could have been done.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
I mean, do you have a read on Is there
just growth?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Is there grotesque in competence at play here in terms
of the preparation for an event like this?
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Well, I did twenty minutes on my podcast on today's show,
which was on the subject of most of these fires
are started by downed power line. So we have a
decrepid power grid, and our power lines are not buried.
They're up on power poles, and the power poles are
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eighty years old. So when the winds hit, they knock
the poles down and the hot wires start the fire,
and or when it gets windy, they just shut off
all the power, so you have no power in the
middle of trying to evacuate because we have a decrepit system.
Keep in mind News is now putting more money into
(04:03):
the high speed rail, which isn't high speed rail from
Bakersfield to Merced, about one hundred and fifty miles way
out of California, in the middle of nowhere. Nobody lives
in Bakersfield or mersaid they're already eighty billion dollars over
budget on it. And I did twenty minutes on why
don't we take that eighty billion dollars or the two
(04:24):
hundred billion dollars that's going to cost a build rail
from Merced to Bakersfield, which impacts nobody, and use that
money to upgrade our grid and bury those lines up
and down pch where the fire is happening and all
the multimillion dollar houses, there's fire poles fall all over
the place. One of their big problems is power lines.
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Everywhere the fire pole catches on fire, the power lines
come down, the trucks can't pull in, and you can't
evacuate if there's hot wires or even cold power lines
on the ground that you don't.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Know are live or not.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
It's a big issue, and it's insane that we have
the same technologies they had in eighteen seventy five with
the Power polls.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
You've lived in California, not since eighteen seventy five, but
a lot of people have moved in during your lifetime there, Adam,
how would you assess we were just talking on the show.
You know, if the hurricane God Forbid hits Florida, which
happens pretty much every year of different varieties. Right now,
Floridians feel very confident that their governor and their local
(05:32):
government is going to do the best job possible responding
to that hurricane. What do you think your average Californian
thinks about the city and state leadership in California in
terms of responding to something like this. What value add
if any, is California getting from its political leadership or
is it actually detracting from the innate goodness of many
(05:54):
of the people in the LA area.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Well, you know, as you know, we're all sort of
vibes and we want the first you know, African American
woman fire chief and mayor, and we get all into that.
But when the s goes down, then we want to
know what's going on. You know, I was looking at
it today and I realized we have an incompetent mayor
Karen Bass, who is in India or something or Africa
(06:20):
doing something collecting beads. I don't know what she was
doing over there, but she's incompetence. We don't have a
system of reservoirs and water collection and fire hydrants and stuff.
It's all a mess. Obviously. The think about this, the
places that just burn to the ground, the multi million
dollar houses, and I'm not saying two million dollar houses,
(06:42):
I'm saying twenty eight million dollar houses.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
The houses that burn to the ground in the community
were Malibu Palisades and Santa Monica, all overwhelmingly blue, all
Newsome voters, all Karen Bass voters. They voted for all
of this, and now their houses are gone.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I mean that is kind of reaping what you sow
on some level, right, Adam. And so many people have
left California. I was talking about the number of UCLA
and USC flags I see in my Tennessee neighborhood. Now
a lot of them moved to to Florida, where Buck lives. Now,
as a lifelong Californian, have you thought, hey, is it
time to uproot and go somewhere else? Through COVID, I
(07:26):
know you travel all over the country doing your shows.
But has this maybe and many of the other things
that have just kind of strung together calamity after calamity
for Californians. Does it make you want to uproot?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Oh yeah, I bought land in Henderson or Fat, Nevada,
and I'm literally leaving after my podcast to head up
to Vegas and do some shows, but to go look
at my land and meet with the architect and the builder. So,
oh yeah, those plans have been on the table for
a long time because all you do is pay taxes.
(07:59):
And it's it's three parts. It's you pay taxes, you
pay an aortent amount of taxes, you get nothing in return,
and they wag their finger at you and want to
know why you're not doing more or paying your fair share.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
You get villainized. So it's not only the.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Part where you don't get anything, and it's not only
the part where you pay for everything. Then whenever these
guys run for elections, they villainize the people that are
keeping the lights on in California.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Why do you think, Adam, there, there isn't a faster
recognition of what you're describing right there, Whether someone wants
to call it, you know being being red pilled. I
don't know seeing reality reacting to events with with common sense?
Is is it just the ideological? Uh, there's they're so ideological.
It's dug in that there's not enough suffering from the
(08:56):
bad policy to make people want to try leadership.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
That's different. I mean Gavin Newson was supposed to be
recalled and then he wasn't.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Yeah, I'll tell you there's gonna be a lot of converts.
And I'll tell you where the where the conversion happens
over to the logical side, over to the right side
when you try to build something. So I'll be fast here.
But I've been a builder my whole life. I had
to pull permits on everything. When you have to deal
with the city and pull permits, that's when you become conservative.
(09:27):
And if you hear Bill Maher in the last five
years sounding a little more like us, he brings up
trying to get a solar shack built, right. He wanted
to get solar power in his house. He had to
pull permits. It took him three years. They wouldn't let
him do it. And now he sounds like God because
now he's pied because he doesn't want to bureaucracy. Bill
(09:47):
Mahersh spoken more about bureaucracy and red tape and burdenso
rules in the last two years than he has in
the thirty years before that.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
It's because he trying to do something.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
All these houses and the palisades, all the houses in Malibu,
all the.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Houses in Santa Monica.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
When they try to rebuild, and a couple of those
yentas from the Coastal Commission tell them no, or you're
gonna have to wait in line, or it's going to
take five years. That's when they're going to turn.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I know, we want your home to be okay. We
want you and everybody else out there listening in LA
to be fine. Questions that you're in the entertainment space.
I know that you have been a Trump supporter for
some time. Has the culture of Los Angeles and the
culture of Hollywood expanded, as it is to many different
locations creating content. How have you found it responding to
(10:44):
the Trump election this time compared to in twenty sixteen
and maybe in twenty twenty. Is there a vibe shift
that you can feel?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah, Remember all of Hollywood. Hollywood are mostly powered, mostly
hypocritical power. Now, if you don't believe me that there's
runaway production. They all film in Canada. Why they film
in Canada they get a tax break. Then they come
back to their homes in Beverly Hills and lecture everyone
about paying a little bit more in taxes so others
(11:15):
could get a hand up.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Right. So they're all hypocrites, they're.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
All cowards, and they'll go with whatever flow the nation's
go into, especially money wise. You've seen it with Disney,
You've seen it with all these corporations getting rid of DEI.
Now you've seen.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
It with the tech ros.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
So they will line up behind Trump just for commerce.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Well, that's a good thing, that's I think.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Also we're seeing that at them with the break in
the the corporate embargo boycott if you will, of all
things Trump from Amazon now or is it Netflix?
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Who is? You know?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Amazon's doing the forty million dollars deal with Milania for
the boom of the new Milania biography, right, new millennium, Right?
Speaker 1 (11:58):
I mean, are we going to see a lot more
of that at them?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Do you think now they realize that they can't just
continue to stiff farm half the country?
Speaker 4 (12:05):
I think so. And also I think as.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Trump's implemented plans bear fruit and start to be effective.
And as the aforementioned Gavin Newsom and the Karen Basses
and all the blue cities and the crime and the
crime on the subway and the fires in Los Angeles,
you know, as Los Angeles and New York City start
(12:29):
to implode, and as Trump's policies bear fruit, I think
You're going to wake up even the heaviest sleepers.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
And I would add this to Adam, thanks for coming
on with us, and we certainly are wishing you the best.
You know this, and I've seen it happen a lot,
the amount of times you're on a television show or
you're on some sort of production and guys come up
who have the cameras, or guys come up who are
building the sets, and they just whisper, you know, something like, man,
(13:00):
I'm with you, You're right about everything. There's actually a
huge contingent even in the entertainment space, that agrees with
a lot of what we say every single day.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Oh yeah, And it's always a sort of blue collar
side of it.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
So he's the guys on the.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Dark side of the bright lights, you know, Yeah, the
grits and the cameramen. You know the truck drivers, all
those guys, the teams. They're always the guys who quietly
tell you they agree and then pull their mask back
up real quick under their way.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
That's right, Adam, Best of luck. Thank you for making
the time. I know it's a crazy time right now
out in LA. If you hear anything else you want
to call in an update is fel free. We appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Man, Well, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
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I mean, that's I mean, credit to him, that's pretty compelling.
But I think as a lot of these guys who
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that you lived and you loved, but they just force
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Speaker 2 (16:00):
It is heartbreaking for me to see just in terms
of what happens when things go wrong in a place
that you grew up and that you love.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Heartbreaking for me to see.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
People standing so far back in the subways in New
York City because they're just afraid, yeah, their backs their
backs literally to the wall when they're on the subway
platforms because they're afraid of some maniac pushing them in
front of an oncoming train. Because of some of the
incidents that have happened in the subway recently. It doesn't
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And when you know, Adam, I thought that was really
interesting when he was laying out the power line issue.
I've also we've got a lot of people writing in
by the Way to say that there should be more
water collection mechanisms, that the water system and what California
we know has water problems as it is, and and
I think they've gotten a lot of rain the last
year or two and there's been very little effort to
(16:54):
try to gather that well, you know, to collect it
for for later use in a reservoir in some form.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
So there's a lot that could be done. But why
doesn't California have world class infrastructure?
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Good to you think world class infrastructure? I mean, how
much money have they spent on the high speed train
to nowhere and the tracks that don't actually do anything?
And then you think how much money have they spent
on having enough firefighters and having enough gear in place
to deal with something like this.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
You pay fourteen percent state income tax and I paid
it in California, and you don't have enough fireman. I
think also the mayor just cut the fire budget last year.
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All right, So we've got a lot of interesting stuff
coming in here on the email front about the situation
in California, the wildfires that are breaking out there. We'll
also get some of your calls here eight hundred two
eight two two eight A two. Joan writes. The travesty
of the California fires is that original settlers and forest
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managers developed the fire control measures that worked over many decades.
They realized long ago that they were living in a
desert region and the Santa Ana winds were very dangerous
if there was a fire. They employed controlled burns, fire pits,
and other measures to prevent the spread of fires. Experts
predicted that the fire risks would increase when enviros started
(19:15):
their insane lawsuits a few decades ago. The legislature could
fix the problem with the lass, with the laws to
permit sound forestry management. However, it is California here, Clay.
I would I would point out this that I think
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as they see this unfold is while we're saying, look,
(19:36):
you know, I understand the most important thing now is
your thoughts and prayers go for everybody who's affected, Go
to everybody who's affected, and that emergency services do the
best job that they can and save as many people
in houses as as possible. There is always going to
be a conversation about the response, the political leadership, the
culpability or the lack of preparation in that for that leadership.
(20:02):
But you know, they also always want to make it
about climate change. And I think that that, unfortunately is
it's a very deeply ideological divide. And I think it
also means that you don't get to focus in on
things that would actually help. Saying that the global temperature
is increasing whatever they think that it is on a
(20:23):
yearly basis is not helpful in actually dealing with this
at all. But it then turns you see what I mean,
all of the focus and energy becomes diverted from immediate
actionable measures to do something about this too. Hey, it's
(20:44):
climate change. Now we need to pass some bill in Congress,
you know what I mean? Yeah, And actually bucket kind
of ties in. I was reading a great piece in
the Wall Street Journal a couple of days ago about
critical race theory and how it actually just stise the
argument itself. In other words, they get it completely backward
(21:05):
that actually Western civilization is what allows critical race theory
to even exist because without Western civilization, we would all
still be living in such poor environments that nobody would
be able to worry about race and gender and ethnicity.
But what I'm hearing from a lot of people is
climate change actually is preventing the situation that would provide
(21:29):
more help for issues associated with climate right, So in
other words, we should have way more reservoirs to be
holding water, to be able to provide more water for
the people in Los Angeles area. To your point, we
had a really great winter, I believe in the Sierra
Madre Mountains. They now have filled up the reservoirs to
(21:51):
record levels over the last generation or so, but we
don't have enough, so we still lose a lot of
that water, which is what Trump has said.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
It goes out into the Pacific Ocean. It isn't recollected.
And one reason we don't have more reservoirs is because
the climate change people are concerned about the impact of
the reservoirs on the climate. So then you end up
with this situation where it becomes almost a self fulfilling
prophecy because you're not fighting the actual ravages of the climate.
As as Adam said, and also as the guy who
(22:21):
called in who used to fly plane said, this is
something that existed throughout the history of this depography. Right,
It's not like wildfires just started in LA now. They've
been going on for as long as Los Angeles has
existed as a community, Yes, and long before.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
You would think that also improvements in technology. I saw
people sharing online that even if power went out in
their area, they still were able to stay or rather,
if the internet went out in the area, they were
still a bit to stay on because of starlink and
how and that meant that there is additional communication capability
in some of these areas that have been hit by
(22:58):
you know, outages because because of the fire. You would
think that with increased technology and also the increased impetus
of more and more of these kinds of how more
and more housing and habit you know, inhabitants in some
of these areas that we know are at risk of
these fires, that they would have more sophisticated systems in place. Instead.
(23:19):
It just feels like, as you're watching this and it's
devastating and it's a gut punch just to see this
happening to you know, our fellow American's fellow human beings.
It looks like not very much is done at all
to improve the overall infrastructure. I mean, I'm not saying
not much as being done by the firefighters on the
front lines now, I just mean in terms of the
state of California getting it in advance of this and
(23:42):
exceeding previous capabilities to be able to blunt this kind
of a fire. It's it seems to me like a
lot of people writing in saying the same thing, which
is that this is this needs to be addressed. Pete
writes in California has a water system built fifty years
ago for a population of twenty million. The state now
has forty million people, but the greenies have made it
(24:04):
impossible to enlarge the state's water system. The state needs
more dams, which create reservoirs needed to store the snow
melt from the sierras and screw the delta smell.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Yeah, that's what I've heard from a lot of people,
is that there needs to be more reservoir building. The
problem is that, as he just laid out, you got
the environmentalist to say, oh, no, we're going to have
an impact on the insert fish or you know, random
bird or random salamander. And as a result, you have
(24:37):
to deal with this in the LA area and I don't.
That's what's so frustrating about it is the people who
are making the argument about climate change are actually making
the climate more dangerous based on the policies that they
implement and endorse. And it's like, to your point, Buck,
(24:58):
the cognition like it doesn't connect. Oh, we're making things
worse while we're trying to advocate to make things better.
It's like they can't process that connection because they're so
focused on their own moral righteousness associated with climate change
that they don't understand the consequences of their own actions.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yes, and that means that you wouldn't get the kind
of respond I mean, you're you're not getting the kind
of action and response to to fix these things from
a you know, a community or a collective. Dare I say,
you know, there shouldn't be such a divide over like, well,
how do we agree how do we deal with this
in the future, Like when you have a bad hurricane
Clay and if they don't have you know, if the
(25:38):
levee isn't big enough, or if they don't have enough resource,
everything can sort of agree with these with these wildfires.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
I mean the front page the New York Times.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
I've seen the past, it's, you know, well, this is
why we need to pass a bill, you know, mandating
electric cars.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
It's like, what are you people talking about? That's that's
not what the problem is. I think also it ties
into your question, and you have a unique perspective on
it because you're a lifelong York City resident. What happened
in normal city? Yeah, oh yeah, oh careful, I don't
want the tax hounds on your scent. What had to happen,
(26:11):
you know in New York City was New York City
got so awful that people were willing to elect Rudy
Giuliani and they were willing to say, hey, you know what,
the crime is so bad, the just deterioration of city
living is so bad that we're willing to change our trajectory.
And I think that happened in twenty twenty four. A
lot of black, Asian Hispanic voters finally said, looked around
(26:35):
and said, our community actually getting better. What's going to
take for LA to make that choice?
Speaker 4 (26:40):
You know?
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Karen Bass against Rick Caruso was that battle right, and
Caruso lost because to Adam's point. All of these left
wing liberals said, oh, Karen bass is our solution, She's
our salvation. We got to have a black woman running
Los Angeles. Well, now she's in Ghana. The city's burning.
Rick Caruso is rightly pointing out that there's also of
flaws responding to this crisis to many of those people.
(27:04):
Do any of those people make the connection that their
vote has the consequence of making their life worse. That's
what has to happen. It's almost like an intervention. You know,
you can be an alcoholic, but until you recognize that
you have an issue with alcohol, everybody else pointing to
it and saying, hey, dude, maybe you should have less
to drink, it doesn't register until you make that connection
inside your brain. And frustrating because it does. It takes
(27:26):
a long time for an attic to recognize the addiction. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Absolutely, I'll take some calls coming up here, and also
we'll talk about you know, Fetterman on the Clay mentioned this,
Fetterman on the immigration issue making some sense and not
the first time. Also, Democrats what they are not willing
to go along with them. It's pretty stunning stuff. We'll
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We are breaking down the absolute latest and awful situation
in Los Angeles wildfires continuing to spread our thanks to
Adam crowa comedian who joined us at the top of
the second hour. Listening to the show regularly awesome guy.
His house may or may not be burned down. He
doesn't know, but he kind of took us into the
window of what life in Los Angeles surrounding these wildfires
(29:03):
is like. Will continue to break all that down. We
come back top of the next hour. We're going to
pivot a bit. There's a Lake and Riley Act that
is now in front of the Senate. John Fetterman went
on with Fox News did an interview. I think he's
going to vote for most of the Trump cabinet nominees,
not least, because he sees the way the wind is blowing,
(29:26):
for lack of a better way to describe it, in Pennsylvania,
where a Democrat senator lost Dave McCormick was elected, and
where Trump won by roughly one hundred and twenty thousand
votes in that state. His Senate seat still several years
away from being up for reelection, and he will be
in the twenty twenty eight cycle, however, which is a
(29:46):
big deal because that means that he'll be running in
a presidential election year as opposed to an off year cycle.
And I think he's recognizing that will mean a lot
of voters who otherwise did not vote in twenty two
and we'll see whether or not he can stay there.
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miss it. Buck I mentioned this, I was going to
hit you with the data on U hauls, and I
think it actually kind of ties in because we've had
a couple of callers talk about leaving California. This is
four straight years that California has led the nation in departures.
(31:32):
Listen to the states where people are moving. South Carolina
number one overall, Texas number two, North Carolina number three,
Florida your home state now number four, Tennessee my home
state number five in that list Tennessee, Florida and Texas
no state income tax. Where are people moving from Pennsylvania,
(31:56):
New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, California. This is as we
get ready for twenty twenty eight and twenty thirty two
in the presidential election cycle, they're going to be redoing
the map. In twenty thirty there is a profound shift
in power that is moving to red states that is
(32:17):
only continuing to accelerate, and I think a lot of
you listening to us right now have found yourself moving
to states that more reflect your values. Red states are thriving,
and I think this is going to end up buck
being maybe the biggest legacy of COVID overall is the
amount of power rolling into these Red states and the
(32:38):
amount of population growth economic growth that's going to follow.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
I'm living it here, right, I mean, you're a born
and raised Red Stater and Tennessee is still going strong
and doing great and getting a lot of the people
that have decided they'd had enough elsewhere. I sit here
as somebody who I look. I mean, until not that
long ago, so I thought that New York was the
single greatest place in the entire world.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
I really believe that.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
And I had done a fair amount of traveling some
pretty nasty places for the CIA, but I had done
a fair amount of traveling, and I just thought New
York City was incredible. But with COVID and everything else
piled on top of it, it just felt like too
much had gone too far to ignore it. And I
think a lot of people are recognizing that you have
(33:24):
a tremendous amount of advantage in your career as well,
if you're flexible at being able to move. You know,
it used to be for certain jobs, Clay, you had
to be in certain places. That was very much the case.
And I know they're bringing more and more people back
into the office for investment banking, for example in New
York things like that, But if you want to be
in finance, you really had to be in New York City,
(33:45):
you know, certainly twenty thirty years ago.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
And now you.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Know, people open you know, hedge funds and they do
it wherever they want, and they open mutual funds and
they can live anywhere in the country. So yeah, it's
it's a different demographic America, you know, going forward, because
of what happened during COVID.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
And I also still believe maybe this is.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Am I am I convincing myself of this Clay that
there was still in the back of people's minds a
lot of frustration in this last election about COVID stuff
that oh, I think you're right to it, you know,
I didn't get talked about. But I still feel like
people the overall sense that the Democrats there was madness there,
there was something where some kind of insanity had overtaken
(34:27):
the Democrat Party. It was COVID in the and the
gender madness. You know, those were the two areas where
I feel like it was just too much.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
And this is what I was saying yesterday for those
of us who were right on almost everything COVID, and
trust me, it was a small group, particularly in the media.
I know a lot of you were right in the
way that you lived your lives. We're not going to
get a definite. Hey, I was wrong. I think I
missed up yesterday and said that Martin McCarey was getting
(34:55):
What did I say. I think I said that he
was maybe getting the I think he's get the CDC.
He's going right, Yeah, I think I think I said FDA.
I think I screwed that up. I think he's getting
the CDC or whatever it is. You're seeing these guys
get elevated who were right about COVID, doctor Bodacharia out
in out in California, the people that were the most
(35:16):
outspoken about this in the scientific community, in the medical community,
Fdachie been chosen to do that. Yeah, I wanted to
make sure I got that right. But that's as close
to an acknowledgment of wrongdoing that we're going to get.
Just like the Zuckerberg statement that we talked about yesterday,
that's about as far as people are going to go
(35:38):
is saying hey, I'm changing everything, but not acknowledging in
the process that they were wrong about everything. This is
about as good a vindication as we're going to get.
I think you're right. I do think it factored in
in a big way in the twenty twenty four elections,
because I meet a lot of people out there still
who say, hey, this was the first year I ever
voted for Trump. That's something had to change in order
(35:59):
to move them in that direction.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
The single biggest moment I think of policy for the
income administration play is going to be seen on the
illegal immigration issue. Let's dive into where that stands and
also this Betterman comment that has gotten a lot of
attention and where the Democrats are on deporting illegal criminals.
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