May 5, 2025 • 35 mins
Clay Travis and Buck Sexton have a humorous debate about Clay's confidence in swimming from Alcatraz to San Francisco, which sparks listener interactions and anecdotes about similar swims. This light-hearted segment transitions into a serious discussion on the Trump administration's latest deportation plan, highlighting the proposal to incentivize self-deportation by covering flight costs and offering financial rewards. The hosts analyze the potential effectiveness and ethical implications of this strategy, referencing insights from experts like Border Czar Tom Homan and WH Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller.
The conversation then shifts to the broader issue of immigration law enforcement, where Buck emphasizes the challenges of the current system and the need for more stringent measures. They also touch on the political dynamics at play, particularly the Democrats' approach to immigration and its long-term impact on American society.
In a lighter segment, the hosts discuss the recent Formula One event in Miami, sharing amusing stories about influencers and mishaps at the event. This leads to a broader conversation about sports, including Clay's upcoming attendance at the Indy 500 and the cultural significance of various racing events.
The hour concludes with a breaking news update from the Oval Office, where President Trump announces that the 2027 NFL Draft will be held in Washington, D.C., on the National Mall. This announcement is expected to generate significant media attention and public interest, especially given the involvement of NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell and the owner of the Washington Commanders.
Throughout the hour, Clay and Buck maintain a dynamic and engaging dialogue, blending humor with in-depth analysis of current events and political issues. This episode is a must-listen for fans of the show, offering a mix of entertainment and insightful commentary on pressing topics.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in Klay Travis buck Sexton show. We're going
to get into the latest deportation plan of the Trump team,
which is going to be I think, really kind of fascinating.
There also is a poll up do you believe I
could make the swim from Alcatraz to San Francisco or
(00:20):
would I drowned slash be eaten by sharks. Only eight
percent of people believe I could make the swim.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Buck. This is.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I just I understand that some of you are elite
swimmers out there. I just I don't think there's any
way that I would not be able to make it.
Like I could walk fifty miles today if I wanted to,
I could just keep going and swimming. I think I
would just you know, take a little break every now.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
And then, and then I would keep going.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Like I'm confident I could make the swim, But most
of you disagree. And there are a lot of flute
me games. One of you suggested I could turn my
flute into a snorkel, and a lot of you have
put me in bathing suit, which is not a flattering.
I am now deluged in my mentions with photos of
Clay in a speedo playing the flute in San Francisco Bay.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I was not expecting this. This is funny.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Paula Scanlon, who was Leah Thomas's teammate at the University
of Pennsylvania, has now weighed in and said that she
and Riley Gaines would be happy to help me train
the for the big swim from Alcatraz. I just know
I would get eaten by a shark, I'd swear. I
just feel like this is tempting fate from a shark
perspective more than anything else. So amazing responses so far,
(01:46):
lots of talkbacks. Here is Reginald from San Diego who
has already weighed in. He says he swam from Alcatraz
to San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Reginald, what did Reginald say? Aaj claim buck, I have
done it.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I have swim from Alcatraz and San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Had an hour, There was a lot of chop. It
was brutal that it could trun to be done. And
there were swim teams, you know, high school boys and girls.
He and you know Spee's doing it. So you don't
even have to have a wet suit. I had one.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I would definitely wear a wet suit. It was really funny.
If that's true. There were high school swim teams that
would just be lapping me the whole way and I
might have to be saved. But I feel better about
it since Reginald just let me know. You guys can
weigh in.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I wanted to.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Hit this two bucks, as one does, in addition to
my incredible ability to swim, which a lot of you
are having a great deal of fun with. I saw
this from Bill Malugin speaking of a guy who'd look
good in a bathing suit in an incredible transition there
and Bill allusion this morning broke News that I'm curious
(03:03):
to get your reaction to Buck. We played the audio
from Kristen Welker at NBC where they were making it
clear that the border is more secure than it ever
has been before. But we talked. I talked with Tom Homan,
and we've asked this question, how many people are self deporting?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
This morning, Mallujin reported.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
That they are going to be willing to pay listen
to this buck for the commercial flights of illegal aliens
who self deport, and they will give them an additional
thousand dollars once they are confirmed to have left the country.
This will save American taxpayers seventy percent, as it currently
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costs DHS on average about seventeen thousand dollars to arrest, detain,
and deport someone for the US while paying for the flights.
So this would cost way less and it's trying to
encourage people to self deport. Our friend Steven Miller, who
was on Friday with us Bucks, said the savings are
(04:04):
as much as one million dollars per illegal alien family,
given the long term cost of free welfare and public support.
Interesting idea. Do you think it works in any way?
Do people say, Okay, I'll take this free flight, I'll
go back home, because there is talk that some people
are here don't have the resources to get back to
(04:25):
the country that they came from. I like the idea.
I think the number has to be a bit higher,
quite a bit higher for people to and then you
do get into this. So now we're going to reward
illegal behavior, you know, which which is what you are doing?
That right, you're rewarding illegal behavior in some way. However,
the savings are without questions, so okay, well would we
(04:49):
what's more important, what's best for the country and the
taxpayer or that we further. You know, part of the
punishment is you have to leave the countries. It's not
like people are getting away entirely with the illegal act
of entry. But I so it's a thousand dollars they're
gonna have to Those are rookie numbers. I think they're
gonna have to pump those numbers up in order to
(05:10):
get to where they need to be on this But
one of the big problems, and this is what drives
me so nuts when we have these discussions about immigration,
one of the big problems that never gets addressed is
it is existing immigration immigration law right now that you
are not allowed to be a public charge, and that
includes legal immigrants. I might ask, yes, you are not
(05:32):
supposed to be able to come to this country and
be on welfare, period. Because everyone can understand that there's
a lot of poor places all over the world, and
if people can just get to America and be in
a safe place where all their bills are paid and
they don't have to do anything, they're going to want
to do that. And that's not good for the American people.
(05:53):
That's not a fair a fair bargain for us. But
that law, Clay or that part of statute is effectively
ignorre and there's all kinds of ways that states and
even federal programs, but state programs are exploited by illegals
to give them welfare. So the savings would be massive
(06:14):
if you could do this. I would say this seems
to be a pattern to remember with the buyouts of
federal employees. Initially it was a very very small number,
but it got a little bit bigger, a little bit bigger.
Part of this may be Clay, Okay, they're not going
to self deport right now, but if there are dramatic
increases in that deportation number such that people believe there's
(06:34):
a realistic chance they could be deported, better to do
it on your own terms, on your own schedule, and
get that thousand bucks.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
So we'll see.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I think the concept in general I actually like because
it's giving someone an incentive to return. I also think
it I'm going back to their home country. I also
think it helps to address what probably is an issue
for some people to your point, Buck that they don't
have the resources. They are a drain on the country
(07:07):
and on our taxpayer dollars, but they get here and
they don't want to walk all the way back to
South America, and as a result, they may feel like
they're trapped here. If they got a free flame flight
back home, my concern is that they would leave and
then try to come back right And you would hope
(07:29):
our southern border is secure enough that that wouldn't happen,
but that then we'd be paying for them to go
back home on a vacation, and then they find a
way to get back into the country. That would be
somewhat of my concern, But right now nobody seems to
be getting in, and so I like this idea. I
don't think it's at harms. Tom Holman told me that
they knew that around five thousand people had self deported
(07:53):
based on the cb IE app that they could track,
and he thought it was more than that. And so
I do think that there's nothing wrong with trying it,
and it eliminates to Steven Miller's point, what could potentially
be a really long process. And Trump, I believe, answered
(08:13):
that question from Kristen Welker, Well, everybody is focused on
the due process argument, but Trump's claim is very valid.
If we have to do millions of due process hearings,
there truly is no way to deport these people. I mean,
another thing they could do is say that they will
for people who self deport, you know, they'll give them
(08:35):
a thousand dollars and maybe they'll also waive the restriction
on being able to legally apply to the country. Now
legally apply to the country would be that takes a
long time and it's not an easy process. But you know,
I'm just saying they may try to come up with
new incentives to get people to leave and try to
come in a legal way. Money is obviously one, but
(08:58):
within the process they do, they.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
May do some other things.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Because right now, I mean, if you overstay your visa,
for example, you're not able to get into the visa
and you're not going to be able to become a
Green card holder, right I mean, if you break immigration
law and then try to come through the legal system,
you have all kinds of problems.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
But if you're just.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Illegal the whole time, yeah, and you just sort of
get to go along with it. Here's cut seven. Here's
Trump at answering that question from Kristen Welker about due
process for illegal aliens. Your Secretary of State says, everyone
who's here, citizens and non citizens deserve due process.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Do you agree, mister.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
I don't know. I'm not a lawyer. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Well, the Fifth Amendment, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
It seems it seems it might say that. But if
you're talking about that, then we'd have to have a
million or two million, or three million trials. We have
thousands of people that are some murderers and some drug
dealers and some of the worst people on earth. But
it is some of the worst, most dangerous people on earth.
And I was elected to get them the hell out
of here, and the courts are holding me from doing it.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
This is the essence of this, and this is what
we've tried to hammer home to a lot of you.
The courts are set up to allow tons of illegal
people into this country, and there is truly no mechanism
to deport millions of people from this country. The math
doesn't add up in terms of how long it takes
(10:23):
to get those people out. Democrats know it. That's why
they opened up the southern border.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
They knew.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
If twenty million, which is the number Tom Holman gave me,
twenty million illegals are here in four years. Let's say
that Trump is able to deport a million people. Percent
of the people that are illegally here are still here.
And then Democrats come in if they win in twenty
twenty nine, take the oath of office. You know what
they'll do buck immediately change the immigration laws and open
(10:52):
back up the southern border and allow millions of more
people in here. And that's that's the challenge we're in.
We have a system where they can all come here,
and our courts don't allow us right now to get
them all out. And I like Trump's answer here because
I do think it's time. How would you answer that
question structurally? Do twenty million illegal immigrants that shouldn't be
(11:15):
here that we know are not citizens, do they deserve
to have hearings in front of all of our courts.
There's no way that we could do that unless somehow
we just and maybe this is something they're thinking about.
Unless Trump issues an executive order and makes like one
hundred thousand new immigration judges and all they do is
(11:36):
hold these hearings, basically stamp it, and they're gone. That's
that to me. Is the only possible way is if
you had a special court in some way put in
place that only focused on illegal immigration, and you could
have these hearings basically around the clock at all times,
because otherwise there's no way to comply in our current
judiciary with due process rights as currently applause that would
(12:00):
lead to these people ever being forced out of the country.
I think part of the outrage over this too, is
that we've all seen that the decision it was a
decision to let in.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
The illegals under bid in the first place.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
They didn't want to stop it. They actively decided to
do this. So it's not a problem that Trump has
inherited that everybody wishes didn't happen. It was active sabotage
of our sovereignty by the Democrats. This was the choice
made by the Democrat Party, and we all understand why.
They think that the more illegals who come in, the
(12:35):
more people will be dependent on the state, and the
taxpayer resources and redistribution and the welfare state in America
will essentially turn it into a one party state when
you pilot enough people from the third World who are.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Going to need and desire state resources.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
So that's the plan, right, That's what they've been running with.
And in the meantime, we say, okay, fine, but you
can't have people the system who say the rule of
law means that the law can be violated endlessly, but
nobody can be punished for violating the law.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
That can't be the system.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
I mean, they can say whatever they want about this
or that statute, but that's there's a there's an in
principle rejection of that clay that I think is going on.
And that's what's different. Now they can point to whatever
statute a statute they want. They ignored the statutes that
should have kept out the fifteen million illegals who piled
in underbided, and now they want rule of law. You know,
(13:31):
they created an emergency. You don't get to create an
emergency and then say, hold on a second, you gotta
you know, you got to give us a proper and
do notice.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Before you do anything about it.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
It's like the house is burning down and you guys,
you guys lit the match and through the kerosene on
the floor. We're not sitting around debating how we put
the fire out with you. So that I think is
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Speaker 2 (15:25):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. You know, Clay, we had.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Formula one down here in Miami this yes weekend and
I did not. I did not make it this time.
I got to go last year. I know you are
a big sportsman. Are you a car racing man? So
I've been to NASCAR races. I haven't ever been to
(15:49):
an F one race, and I'm going to the ND
five hundred this year, which I'm told is a pretty
incredible experience. But I don't know anything about race car
driving very much in general.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
So like, I'll be.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Watching it purely for the party element, and I'm excited
for that, but it's not like I'm gonna be watching
it embedded in the nuance of the race itself, if
that makes sense. I'm not gonna be the guy who
is analyzed. Like I can watch baseball, basketball, football pretty
well and understand the larger strategy of play, the decisions
(16:26):
that are being made. No idea in the race universe,
but I know it's turned into a huge deal in Miami.
And did you see all those influencers that were on
the Lamborghini boat that sank? Did you see the story
that is vintage Miami. They had all these cute girls
on a boat that was made for I think five people,
(16:47):
and they put thirty on it, these influencer girls. The
boat started to sink. What did they do? They recorded
the boat sinking and posted it on Instagram. And now
they're all gonna make money. And they evidently saved an
expensive bottle tequila too. The guy, the fat guy, I
bet he's a fat guy who owned the boat, probably
not happy, but he should have known better than to
(17:10):
put thirty girls on the boat. They were there for
f one and the boat just sank right in the
harbor in Miami. Now, if I had been on the boat,
I would have been an excellent swimmer gotten right back
to land. These girls had to be rescued. I think,
if you have to, if you have to swim from
Alcatraz to land or go and do your best in
going one hundred and eighty miles an hour, just just
(17:33):
cold in one of those F one cars.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Which one do you do well?
Speaker 1 (17:36):
I think you have to be able to gear shift,
and so I don't even think I could get to
one eighty, right, I mean, you don't.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Just get the pot D drive.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
The CIA taught me how to drive stick, but I
haven't done it since since. I I mean I drove
stick back in the day. But I think the race
car stick is more challenging than the normal stick. My
brother's laughing at both. The CIA taught you how to
drive it stick shift, I expect I just reiterate that
I expected you to be a more aggressive driver.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I didn't expect you to be, you know, misdating.
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addition to Riley who now says that I have to
come to San Francisco an attempt to swim, she says,
they go out with a boat, they drop us off,
kayaks are there. I asked if there was somebody who
could rescue me if I started to drown, and Jesse
Kelly has weighed in and said, what did he say?
(19:18):
Don't listen to the haters, Clay. You can do this
and you should absolutely try, which is a very good thought.
You know one thing I'm thinking, Buck, Can you imagine
if I put a live webcam on like my head,
like my forehead, and you had a live vision of
me attempting. You probably hear it too, and we could
(19:38):
be honest something. Just think of all the money we
could raise for penalty towers, or we had a lot
of money for a really good cause.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
You know.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
I will say, if I made the swim, I think
Trump might have to revoke his idea of turning Alcatraz
into a prison, because it's supposed to be unescapable.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Right.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
If a fat, out of shape person like me can
from Alcatraz to San Francisco Bay, then I think the
three guys that vanished they made the swim, and I
think he would have to rescind his decision to try
to turn it into a prison. In addition to the
fact that we potentially could raise a lot of money
for charity, I also think that I could prove that
(20:18):
it is not an inescapable prison if I made it. Now,
if I drown, then maybe Trump would be like, hey,
we're you know, We're going to reopen Alcatraz and one
of the jail cells will name after Clay. This will
be the Travis Wing of Alcatraz Island in honor of
his untimely death. I will say, groc a bunch of
you have been sharing this. It is a myth, and
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this is inevitably going to blow up in my faith
because I'm gonna get eaten by a shark if I
try to do this. But and then this will go
megaviral and this will be the only thing people remember
from my entire life. It is a myth so far
that lots of people are getting eaten by sharks in
San Francisco Bay. In fact, it's never happened now. Also,
(21:02):
there's not a lot of people, to be fair, who
are in the water on a regular basis. I would
imagine in the San Francisco Bay area because the water
is cold and the beaches are not particularly fabulous. But
it has never occurred in San Francisco Bay that someone
has been eaten by a shark. Kara from Kentucky has
(21:24):
a talkback. Kara BB, what have we got here?
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Clay. I think you're great, but I think you're way
over confident when it comes to your swimming ability. Swimming
is a tough sport. My son's high school team has
won the state championship here in Kentucky for the past
thirty plus years. I'd like to invite you to come
to one of his practices. If you could make it
through that, you'll have my vote for Alcatraz.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I think I could make it through the problem is
I would be like me going to a elite high
school team's practice. I mean, I would have to be
there for like eight hours because they're going to do
twenty lapse or whatever, and it's going to take them
like three and a half minutes, and then it takes
me an hour. So I just I don't think. I
(22:07):
do not think I would drown. I think I could
always stay above the water, and I think if I
could stay above the water long enough, eventually I would
get to shore. Now, the one part of the calculus
here that I'm not confident about is what are the
currents like? In other words, like would it sweep me
(22:27):
further out? But the bay is not that big, so
I would think it would sweep me from one side
to the other. In other words, surely I would hit
land at some point, or one of the booies underneath
the Golden Gate Bridge, which is way far away, or
the Bay Bridge, which is also far away, because I
don't want to go out to open water, but you're
in the bay. So I just think at some point
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if you just stayed upright, eventually you would maybe die
of hypothermia. But if you didn't die of hypothermia, I
think you would end up on land. I mean, bottles
that get thrown into the ocean eventually end up on land.
You just got to not drown in the meantime. And
I don't think I would drown. I think I could
stay above the water. How much confidence do you have
(23:14):
that I could make it? How much would you have?
You just said, we have to raise the amount of
money we're willing to pay the guys to fly, like
a thousand dollars. Our friend Gurdusky said, they're offering thirty
five thousand dollars in Sweden. How much odd What odds
would you have to get for me to be able
to make it not to be rescued ten to one?
(23:37):
This is so it's a mile? Is that right? It's
a mile swim total? I think, so, yeah, that's not
that's not that bad. I mean the Statue of Liberty
is two miles from Manhattan, so that's that's considerably more.
I mean, do people swim back and forth in the
Statue of Liberty?
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (23:51):
What will Caine and Hegseth did. Was that the Navy
seal swim they did? Yeah, yeah, no, look you you'd
make it. The only thing I might get you would
be the I think either the currents or the cold.
The shark thing is just is just a thing in
your head to scare you. But which obviously, which would
by the way, work, because when you're like halfway back
and you're a long way from the shore, you're definitely
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gonna be expecting to get eaten by a shark. The
funny thing about about all I've spent like way too
much time, I think a lot of us have different fascinations,
you know, with with scary scary things where kids or whatever,
and and sharks is something I've read a lot of
shark attacks something I've read a lot about when I
was a kid. You know what's interesting is that your right, statistically,
you're you're very, very safe from shark attack. However, sharks
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are far more present around people than they ever realize,
and now because of drone technology, people are starting.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
To see that, Oh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
There's a lot of times where there's a you know,
one hundred people will be at a beach, they're all
in the ocean, splash around having a great time, and
just beyond the surf break about you know, thirty forty yards,
they'll be some big tiger sharks or something swimming around
out there. So sharks are much more present in the
environment than a lot than we realiz because you generally
don't see them right, you generally have no idea. So
(25:04):
that's kind of a funny thing, right, On the one hand,
we were more scared of them when we should be.
To the other hand, they're far more present than we
recognize them to be. Have I told you my shark story?
Have I told this audience to the shark story?
Speaker 2 (25:17):
This is I don't know. We gotta we gotta talk
about the economy. Clay, Okay, economy.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Jemmy far when I Trump's got it. I was seventh
grade Panama City Beach Church mission trip, Panama City Beach,
nineteen ninety. Not a very nice place. This is like
a bunker that we're staying in for the church retreat.
(25:43):
We have a jet ski rented. It's like a nineteen
year old kid with the jet ski who was like
one of the chaperones. He's taking us out one at
a time on the jet ski and we get out
on the jet ski and jet ski's back in like
nineteen ninety used to tip over all the time, and
it was really hard back in the day to get
back on a jet ski. Now it's actually comparatively easy.
(26:06):
They maintain and hold itself well two of us, it
was very difficult. So he's back on and suddenly this
lightguard comes roaring up on his own jet ski and
he says, everybody off the beach, we've spotted tiger sharks
in the area.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
One hundred per century.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Seventh grade weighs out on the ocean jet ski Panama
City Beach and the guy who is the nineteen year
old is like, hey, we can't get back up because
we keep tipping over. So he's on. He says, I'll
just drag you in. Says, I will drag you back
into the shallows. We got to make sure you don't
get eaten by a tiger Sharky. This is maybe the
(26:47):
greatest bait that's ever existed for tiger shark. I'm hanging
on to the back of the jet ski. The exhaust
is just pouring, you know, right in my face. I'm twelve,
and as it's pouring off, my swimsuit comes off. So
the whole beach covered with like twelve and thirteen year
old girls and I am hitting the waves, mooning the
(27:10):
entirety of Panama City Beach, Florida. This would have gone
certainly megaviral in the day when everybody has their well
I guess maybe not, because I was.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Like a shark like shark repellent. This is good. The
shark's not gonna mess with you.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Now I'm thinking to myself, all these que girls are
on the beach and now I'm naked, and I'm also
going to get eaten by a shark. This is maybe
the worst way for a twelve or thirteen year old
boy to go out ever in the history of mankind.
I get and by the way, by the grace of God,
I managed to hook my bathing suit on my right ankle,
(27:45):
so the webbing of the bathing suit, so I managed
to hang on to that for dear life. On the
right ankle, I get dropped off, and uh and I'm like,
you know, naked in the water, trying to get my
swimsuit on. And ever he's panicked on the beach because
there's tiger sharks. Everybody is fleeing the beach and somehow
(28:06):
I have managed to create this huge scene. People are
expecting me to get it eaten. So I've been, you know,
kind of in fear of sharks even more so ever
since that day.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
So I think, you know, after having.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Overcome that, after that story, I think now you definitely
have to do the Alcatraz swim, just just for your
your own dignity, you know. I feel like, well, a
wet suit's harder to get ripped off, I would think.
So if I'm in a wet suit, I think I
would be okay. But that's a true story. If you're
listening right now and you were on Panama City Beach
in June of nineteen ninety or so, and you saw
a kid mooning the whole beach.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
That was me. Now you're listening to me on the radio.
So I survived.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
That is probably a story that you didn't expect to
hear today.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
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Find them on the Free iHeartRadio app or wherever you
get your podcasts discussion about this and Clay, she was
I think a vote probably for you would make it,
but I think you'd be quite haggard after this. I
think that you'd be you'd have a tough one. Grandma
Judy said, we are the cure for depression. She said
she would giggle too much to come on the air.
(30:26):
She just wanted that message to be packed along. Oh
that's passed along, by the way, Very nice from Grandma Judy.
Breaking news actually in the Oval Office. This is going
to trigger a lot of people. Trump has just announced
that the twenty twenty seven NFL Draft will take place
in Washington, DC, that he will help host it, and
(30:46):
that it will be on the National Mall. Roger Goodell,
the Commissioner of the NFL, in the Oval Office right now,
along with the owner of the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
They'll always be the red skin.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
To me is really yeah, this is literally help host
the NFL Draft while he's I mean, I'm assuming he'll
be there showing up and announcing it. I mean I
would be stunned if they're doing it on the National Mall.
If he's announcing it right now, I would think he'd
probably announce a pick, which will everybody bonkers. Uh, but
we'll play that video for you. It's legit happening right
(31:22):
now as we are, as we are speaking.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
I guess maybe I'll end up actually watching an NFL
draft at some point.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
What happened?
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Have they?
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Have they calmed down about the fellow.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Sanders, mister Chador very sad I'm supposed to be for
this Chador fellow. I don't I know he waiting about
it to the Cleveland Browns in the fifth round. It
does seem that everybody has basically calmed down. But I
will say, you know this, You've learned it doing the
show with me.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
The sports media is going to lose their minds over
Roger Goodell, the commissioner of the NFL, being present at
the White House, for Trump to announce that the NFL
Draft is taking place, and that basically he'll be I mean,
you know, on the mall, I would be stunned. I
would be stunned, Buck, if he's not announcing some picks
(32:12):
or engaged in some way in a monster fashion. I mean,
it's right there in front of the White House.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
I think it's.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Taken so long for us to get to this point
that we don't really even we're not processing it necessarily
or enjoying it as much as we should, which is that.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
The era of.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Just companies and an organization's feel like they are free
to or feel compelled to always kind of stick a
thumb in the eye of anybody who's conservative or on
the writer or Republican. I really think that it's if
it hasn't come to an end, it's certainly a fraction
(32:57):
of what it used to be. I mean, it's a
uh either there's been such a tremendous change here where
companies I think at least recognize that they can't get
away with it anymore, so maybe they still want to
do it. I'm not saying everyone's changed their minds, obviously,
I know a lot of people voted for Kamala and
all that, but whether it's Clay, I mean, look at
the sports stuff. I remember when there when when the
(33:20):
wokeness in sports even I was paying attention because it
was everywhere, and you know, whether it was the BLM
stuff and everything else, it's it's gone right now. Maybe
we're just at a lull, but it seems to have
at least temporarily evaporated, and I think it's such a
good thing. No, it's totally a different world. I mean,
(33:41):
the Philadelphia Eagles just visited the White House. I think
this is an interesting way to kind of bring it
home for people to Now, some players didn't go, whatever
scheduling conflicts. They may not like Trump, but the team
itself went. Coaches, owners, a lot of the players, and
they were in the White House celebrating their Super Bowl
championship and they didn't go. In twenty eighteen, they refused
(34:05):
the President's invitation to visit the White House. Now, maybe
an NBA team or a WNBA team is not going
to be willing to go to the White House. We'll
see how that plays out. But the rest of sports
has just kind of returned to normalcy. And if you
told people, I don't know, eight years ago when Trump
was ripping Colin Kaepernick for not standing for the national anthem,
(34:30):
that one day the commissioner of the NFL, same commissioner
who was there then, Roger Goodell, would be showing up
in the Oval Office to shake hands and celebrate with
Trump the national NFL Draft coming to the National Mall.
I think a lot of people would have would have
called you crazy. Yet that clip is out. We will
play it for you when we come back. But first,
(34:51):
I think we're going to be joined by Nicole Parker
of the FBI to talk about the change that's heard
in the FBI since Cash mcfell came into office. Yeah,
ang and wokeness in the federal law enforcement ranked Nicole Parker,
former FBI agent, Fox News contributors, she'll be with us
here in just a few minutes.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
We'll last
Welcome back in Klay Travis buck Sexton show. We're going
to get into the latest deportation plan of the Trump team,
which is going to be I think, really kind of fascinating.
There also is a poll up do you believe I
could make the swim from Alcatraz to San Francisco or
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would I drowned slash be eaten by sharks. Only eight
percent of people believe I could make the swim.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Buck. This is.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I just I understand that some of you are elite
swimmers out there. I just I don't think there's any
way that I would not be able to make it.
Like I could walk fifty miles today if I wanted to,
I could just keep going and swimming. I think I
would just you know, take a little break every now.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
And then, and then I would keep going.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Like I'm confident I could make the swim, But most
of you disagree. And there are a lot of flute
me games. One of you suggested I could turn my
flute into a snorkel, and a lot of you have
put me in bathing suit, which is not a flattering.
I am now deluged in my mentions with photos of
Clay in a speedo playing the flute in San Francisco Bay.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I was not expecting this. This is funny.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Paula Scanlon, who was Leah Thomas's teammate at the University
of Pennsylvania, has now weighed in and said that she
and Riley Gaines would be happy to help me train
the for the big swim from Alcatraz. I just know
I would get eaten by a shark, I'd swear. I
just feel like this is tempting fate from a shark
perspective more than anything else. So amazing responses so far,
(01:46):
lots of talkbacks. Here is Reginald from San Diego who
has already weighed in. He says he swam from Alcatraz
to San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Reginald, what did Reginald say? Aaj claim buck, I have
done it.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I have swim from Alcatraz and San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Had an hour, There was a lot of chop. It
was brutal that it could trun to be done. And
there were swim teams, you know, high school boys and girls.
He and you know Spee's doing it. So you don't
even have to have a wet suit. I had one.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I would definitely wear a wet suit. It was really funny.
If that's true. There were high school swim teams that
would just be lapping me the whole way and I
might have to be saved. But I feel better about
it since Reginald just let me know. You guys can
weigh in.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I wanted to.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Hit this two bucks, as one does, in addition to
my incredible ability to swim, which a lot of you
are having a great deal of fun with. I saw
this from Bill Malugin speaking of a guy who'd look
good in a bathing suit in an incredible transition there
and Bill allusion this morning broke News that I'm curious
(03:03):
to get your reaction to Buck. We played the audio
from Kristen Welker at NBC where they were making it
clear that the border is more secure than it ever
has been before. But we talked. I talked with Tom Homan,
and we've asked this question, how many people are self deporting?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
This morning, Mallujin reported.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
That they are going to be willing to pay listen
to this buck for the commercial flights of illegal aliens
who self deport, and they will give them an additional
thousand dollars once they are confirmed to have left the country.
This will save American taxpayers seventy percent, as it currently
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costs DHS on average about seventeen thousand dollars to arrest, detain,
and deport someone for the US while paying for the flights.
So this would cost way less and it's trying to
encourage people to self deport. Our friend Steven Miller, who
was on Friday with us Bucks, said the savings are
(04:04):
as much as one million dollars per illegal alien family,
given the long term cost of free welfare and public support.
Interesting idea. Do you think it works in any way?
Do people say, Okay, I'll take this free flight, I'll
go back home, because there is talk that some people
are here don't have the resources to get back to
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the country that they came from. I like the idea.
I think the number has to be a bit higher,
quite a bit higher for people to and then you
do get into this. So now we're going to reward
illegal behavior, you know, which which is what you are doing?
That right, you're rewarding illegal behavior in some way. However,
the savings are without questions, so okay, well would we
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what's more important, what's best for the country and the
taxpayer or that we further. You know, part of the
punishment is you have to leave the countries. It's not
like people are getting away entirely with the illegal act
of entry. But I so it's a thousand dollars they're
gonna have to Those are rookie numbers. I think they're
gonna have to pump those numbers up in order to
(05:10):
get to where they need to be on this But
one of the big problems, and this is what drives
me so nuts when we have these discussions about immigration,
one of the big problems that never gets addressed is
it is existing immigration immigration law right now that you
are not allowed to be a public charge, and that
includes legal immigrants. I might ask, yes, you are not
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supposed to be able to come to this country and
be on welfare, period. Because everyone can understand that there's
a lot of poor places all over the world, and
if people can just get to America and be in
a safe place where all their bills are paid and
they don't have to do anything, they're going to want
to do that. And that's not good for the American people.
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That's not a fair a fair bargain for us. But
that law, Clay or that part of statute is effectively
ignorre and there's all kinds of ways that states and
even federal programs, but state programs are exploited by illegals
to give them welfare. So the savings would be massive
(06:14):
if you could do this. I would say this seems
to be a pattern to remember with the buyouts of
federal employees. Initially it was a very very small number,
but it got a little bit bigger, a little bit bigger.
Part of this may be Clay, Okay, they're not going
to self deport right now, but if there are dramatic
increases in that deportation number such that people believe there's
(06:34):
a realistic chance they could be deported, better to do
it on your own terms, on your own schedule, and
get that thousand bucks.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
So we'll see.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I think the concept in general I actually like because
it's giving someone an incentive to return. I also think
it I'm going back to their home country. I also
think it helps to address what probably is an issue
for some people to your point, Buck that they don't
have the resources. They are a drain on the country
(07:07):
and on our taxpayer dollars, but they get here and
they don't want to walk all the way back to
South America, and as a result, they may feel like
they're trapped here. If they got a free flame flight
back home, my concern is that they would leave and
then try to come back right And you would hope
(07:29):
our southern border is secure enough that that wouldn't happen,
but that then we'd be paying for them to go
back home on a vacation, and then they find a
way to get back into the country. That would be
somewhat of my concern, But right now nobody seems to
be getting in, and so I like this idea. I
don't think it's at harms. Tom Holman told me that
they knew that around five thousand people had self deported
(07:53):
based on the cb IE app that they could track,
and he thought it was more than that. And so
I do think that there's nothing wrong with trying it,
and it eliminates to Steven Miller's point, what could potentially
be a really long process. And Trump, I believe, answered
(08:13):
that question from Kristen Welker, Well, everybody is focused on
the due process argument, but Trump's claim is very valid.
If we have to do millions of due process hearings,
there truly is no way to deport these people. I mean,
another thing they could do is say that they will
for people who self deport, you know, they'll give them
(08:35):
a thousand dollars and maybe they'll also waive the restriction
on being able to legally apply to the country. Now
legally apply to the country would be that takes a
long time and it's not an easy process. But you know,
I'm just saying they may try to come up with
new incentives to get people to leave and try to
come in a legal way. Money is obviously one, but
(08:58):
within the process they do, they.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
May do some other things.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Because right now, I mean, if you overstay your visa,
for example, you're not able to get into the visa
and you're not going to be able to become a
Green card holder, right I mean, if you break immigration
law and then try to come through the legal system,
you have all kinds of problems.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
But if you're just.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Illegal the whole time, yeah, and you just sort of
get to go along with it. Here's cut seven. Here's
Trump at answering that question from Kristen Welker about due
process for illegal aliens. Your Secretary of State says, everyone
who's here, citizens and non citizens deserve due process.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Do you agree, mister.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
I don't know. I'm not a lawyer. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Well, the Fifth Amendment, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
It seems it seems it might say that. But if
you're talking about that, then we'd have to have a
million or two million, or three million trials. We have
thousands of people that are some murderers and some drug
dealers and some of the worst people on earth. But
it is some of the worst, most dangerous people on earth.
And I was elected to get them the hell out
of here, and the courts are holding me from doing it.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
This is the essence of this, and this is what
we've tried to hammer home to a lot of you.
The courts are set up to allow tons of illegal
people into this country, and there is truly no mechanism
to deport millions of people from this country. The math
doesn't add up in terms of how long it takes
(10:23):
to get those people out. Democrats know it. That's why
they opened up the southern border.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
They knew.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
If twenty million, which is the number Tom Holman gave me,
twenty million illegals are here in four years. Let's say
that Trump is able to deport a million people. Percent
of the people that are illegally here are still here.
And then Democrats come in if they win in twenty
twenty nine, take the oath of office. You know what
they'll do buck immediately change the immigration laws and open
(10:52):
back up the southern border and allow millions of more
people in here. And that's that's the challenge we're in.
We have a system where they can all come here,
and our courts don't allow us right now to get
them all out. And I like Trump's answer here because
I do think it's time. How would you answer that
question structurally? Do twenty million illegal immigrants that shouldn't be
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here that we know are not citizens, do they deserve
to have hearings in front of all of our courts.
There's no way that we could do that unless somehow
we just and maybe this is something they're thinking about.
Unless Trump issues an executive order and makes like one
hundred thousand new immigration judges and all they do is
(11:36):
hold these hearings, basically stamp it, and they're gone. That's
that to me. Is the only possible way is if
you had a special court in some way put in
place that only focused on illegal immigration, and you could
have these hearings basically around the clock at all times,
because otherwise there's no way to comply in our current
judiciary with due process rights as currently applause that would
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lead to these people ever being forced out of the country.
I think part of the outrage over this too, is
that we've all seen that the decision it was a
decision to let in.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
The illegals under bid in the first place.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
They didn't want to stop it. They actively decided to
do this. So it's not a problem that Trump has
inherited that everybody wishes didn't happen. It was active sabotage
of our sovereignty by the Democrats. This was the choice
made by the Democrat Party, and we all understand why.
They think that the more illegals who come in, the
(12:35):
more people will be dependent on the state, and the
taxpayer resources and redistribution and the welfare state in America
will essentially turn it into a one party state when
you pilot enough people from the third World who are.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Going to need and desire state resources.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
So that's the plan, right, That's what they've been running with.
And in the meantime, we say, okay, fine, but you
can't have people the system who say the rule of
law means that the law can be violated endlessly, but
nobody can be punished for violating the law.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
That can't be the system.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
I mean, they can say whatever they want about this
or that statute, but that's there's a there's an in
principle rejection of that clay that I think is going on.
And that's what's different. Now they can point to whatever
statute a statute they want. They ignored the statutes that
should have kept out the fifteen million illegals who piled
in underbided, and now they want rule of law. You know,
(13:31):
they created an emergency. You don't get to create an
emergency and then say, hold on a second, you gotta
you know, you got to give us a proper and
do notice.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Before you do anything about it.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
It's like the house is burning down and you guys,
you guys lit the match and through the kerosene on
the floor. We're not sitting around debating how we put
the fire out with you. So that I think is
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Speaker 2 (15:25):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. You know, Clay, we had.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Formula one down here in Miami this yes weekend and
I did not. I did not make it this time.
I got to go last year. I know you are
a big sportsman. Are you a car racing man? So
I've been to NASCAR races. I haven't ever been to
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an F one race, and I'm going to the ND
five hundred this year, which I'm told is a pretty
incredible experience. But I don't know anything about race car
driving very much in general.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
So like, I'll be.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Watching it purely for the party element, and I'm excited
for that, but it's not like I'm gonna be watching
it embedded in the nuance of the race itself, if
that makes sense. I'm not gonna be the guy who
is analyzed. Like I can watch baseball, basketball, football pretty
well and understand the larger strategy of play, the decisions
(16:26):
that are being made. No idea in the race universe,
but I know it's turned into a huge deal in Miami.
And did you see all those influencers that were on
the Lamborghini boat that sank? Did you see the story
that is vintage Miami. They had all these cute girls
on a boat that was made for I think five people,
(16:47):
and they put thirty on it, these influencer girls. The
boat started to sink. What did they do? They recorded
the boat sinking and posted it on Instagram. And now
they're all gonna make money. And they evidently saved an
expensive bottle tequila too. The guy, the fat guy, I
bet he's a fat guy who owned the boat, probably
not happy, but he should have known better than to
(17:10):
put thirty girls on the boat. They were there for
f one and the boat just sank right in the
harbor in Miami. Now, if I had been on the boat,
I would have been an excellent swimmer gotten right back
to land. These girls had to be rescued. I think,
if you have to, if you have to swim from
Alcatraz to land or go and do your best in
going one hundred and eighty miles an hour, just just
(17:33):
cold in one of those F one cars.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Which one do you do well?
Speaker 1 (17:36):
I think you have to be able to gear shift,
and so I don't even think I could get to
one eighty, right, I mean, you don't.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Just get the pot D drive.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
The CIA taught me how to drive stick, but I
haven't done it since since. I I mean I drove
stick back in the day. But I think the race
car stick is more challenging than the normal stick. My
brother's laughing at both. The CIA taught you how to
drive it stick shift, I expect I just reiterate that
I expected you to be a more aggressive driver.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I didn't expect you to be, you know, misdating.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
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addition to Riley who now says that I have to
come to San Francisco an attempt to swim, she says,
they go out with a boat, they drop us off,
kayaks are there. I asked if there was somebody who
could rescue me if I started to drown, and Jesse
Kelly has weighed in and said, what did he say?
(19:18):
Don't listen to the haters, Clay. You can do this
and you should absolutely try, which is a very good thought.
You know one thing I'm thinking, Buck, Can you imagine
if I put a live webcam on like my head,
like my forehead, and you had a live vision of
me attempting. You probably hear it too, and we could
(19:38):
be honest something. Just think of all the money we
could raise for penalty towers, or we had a lot
of money for a really good cause.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
You know.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
I will say, if I made the swim, I think
Trump might have to revoke his idea of turning Alcatraz
into a prison, because it's supposed to be unescapable.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Right.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
If a fat, out of shape person like me can
from Alcatraz to San Francisco Bay, then I think the
three guys that vanished they made the swim, and I
think he would have to rescind his decision to try
to turn it into a prison. In addition to the
fact that we potentially could raise a lot of money
for charity, I also think that I could prove that
(20:18):
it is not an inescapable prison if I made it. Now,
if I drown, then maybe Trump would be like, hey,
we're you know, We're going to reopen Alcatraz and one
of the jail cells will name after Clay. This will
be the Travis Wing of Alcatraz Island in honor of
his untimely death. I will say, groc a bunch of
you have been sharing this. It is a myth, and
(20:39):
this is inevitably going to blow up in my faith
because I'm gonna get eaten by a shark if I
try to do this. But and then this will go
megaviral and this will be the only thing people remember
from my entire life. It is a myth so far
that lots of people are getting eaten by sharks in
San Francisco Bay. In fact, it's never happened now. Also,
(21:02):
there's not a lot of people, to be fair, who
are in the water on a regular basis. I would
imagine in the San Francisco Bay area because the water
is cold and the beaches are not particularly fabulous. But
it has never occurred in San Francisco Bay that someone
has been eaten by a shark. Kara from Kentucky has
(21:24):
a talkback. Kara BB, what have we got here?
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Clay. I think you're great, but I think you're way
over confident when it comes to your swimming ability. Swimming
is a tough sport. My son's high school team has
won the state championship here in Kentucky for the past
thirty plus years. I'd like to invite you to come
to one of his practices. If you could make it
through that, you'll have my vote for Alcatraz.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I think I could make it through the problem is
I would be like me going to a elite high
school team's practice. I mean, I would have to be
there for like eight hours because they're going to do
twenty lapse or whatever, and it's going to take them
like three and a half minutes, and then it takes
me an hour. So I just I don't think. I
(22:07):
do not think I would drown. I think I could
always stay above the water, and I think if I
could stay above the water long enough, eventually I would
get to shore. Now, the one part of the calculus
here that I'm not confident about is what are the
currents like? In other words, like would it sweep me
(22:27):
further out? But the bay is not that big, so
I would think it would sweep me from one side
to the other. In other words, surely I would hit
land at some point, or one of the booies underneath
the Golden Gate Bridge, which is way far away, or
the Bay Bridge, which is also far away, because I
don't want to go out to open water, but you're
in the bay. So I just think at some point
(22:51):
if you just stayed upright, eventually you would maybe die
of hypothermia. But if you didn't die of hypothermia, I
think you would end up on land. I mean, bottles
that get thrown into the ocean eventually end up on land.
You just got to not drown in the meantime. And
I don't think I would drown. I think I could
stay above the water. How much confidence do you have
(23:14):
that I could make it? How much would you have?
You just said, we have to raise the amount of
money we're willing to pay the guys to fly, like
a thousand dollars. Our friend Gurdusky said, they're offering thirty
five thousand dollars in Sweden. How much odd What odds
would you have to get for me to be able
to make it not to be rescued ten to one?
(23:37):
This is so it's a mile? Is that right? It's
a mile swim total? I think, so, yeah, that's not
that's not that bad. I mean the Statue of Liberty
is two miles from Manhattan, so that's that's considerably more.
I mean, do people swim back and forth in the
Statue of Liberty?
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (23:51):
What will Caine and Hegseth did. Was that the Navy
seal swim they did? Yeah, yeah, no, look you you'd
make it. The only thing I might get you would
be the I think either the currents or the cold.
The shark thing is just is just a thing in
your head to scare you. But which obviously, which would
by the way, work, because when you're like halfway back
and you're a long way from the shore, you're definitely
(24:13):
gonna be expecting to get eaten by a shark. The
funny thing about about all I've spent like way too
much time, I think a lot of us have different fascinations,
you know, with with scary scary things where kids or whatever,
and and sharks is something I've read a lot of
shark attacks something I've read a lot about when I
was a kid. You know what's interesting is that your right, statistically,
you're you're very, very safe from shark attack. However, sharks
(24:36):
are far more present around people than they ever realize,
and now because of drone technology, people are starting.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
To see that, Oh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
There's a lot of times where there's a you know,
one hundred people will be at a beach, they're all
in the ocean, splash around having a great time, and
just beyond the surf break about you know, thirty forty yards,
they'll be some big tiger sharks or something swimming around
out there. So sharks are much more present in the
environment than a lot than we realiz because you generally
don't see them right, you generally have no idea. So
(25:04):
that's kind of a funny thing, right, On the one hand,
we were more scared of them when we should be.
To the other hand, they're far more present than we
recognize them to be. Have I told you my shark story?
Have I told this audience to the shark story?
Speaker 2 (25:17):
This is I don't know. We gotta we gotta talk
about the economy. Clay, Okay, economy.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Jemmy far when I Trump's got it. I was seventh
grade Panama City Beach Church mission trip, Panama City Beach,
nineteen ninety. Not a very nice place. This is like
a bunker that we're staying in for the church retreat.
(25:43):
We have a jet ski rented. It's like a nineteen
year old kid with the jet ski who was like
one of the chaperones. He's taking us out one at
a time on the jet ski and we get out
on the jet ski and jet ski's back in like
nineteen ninety used to tip over all the time, and
it was really hard back in the day to get
back on a jet ski. Now it's actually comparatively easy.
(26:06):
They maintain and hold itself well two of us, it
was very difficult. So he's back on and suddenly this
lightguard comes roaring up on his own jet ski and
he says, everybody off the beach, we've spotted tiger sharks
in the area.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
One hundred per century.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Seventh grade weighs out on the ocean jet ski Panama
City Beach and the guy who is the nineteen year
old is like, hey, we can't get back up because
we keep tipping over. So he's on. He says, I'll
just drag you in. Says, I will drag you back
into the shallows. We got to make sure you don't
get eaten by a tiger Sharky. This is maybe the
(26:47):
greatest bait that's ever existed for tiger shark. I'm hanging
on to the back of the jet ski. The exhaust
is just pouring, you know, right in my face. I'm twelve,
and as it's pouring off, my swimsuit comes off. So
the whole beach covered with like twelve and thirteen year
old girls and I am hitting the waves, mooning the
(27:10):
entirety of Panama City Beach, Florida. This would have gone
certainly megaviral in the day when everybody has their well
I guess maybe not, because I was.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Like a shark like shark repellent. This is good. The
shark's not gonna mess with you.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Now I'm thinking to myself, all these que girls are
on the beach and now I'm naked, and I'm also
going to get eaten by a shark. This is maybe
the worst way for a twelve or thirteen year old
boy to go out ever in the history of mankind.
I get and by the way, by the grace of God,
I managed to hook my bathing suit on my right ankle,
(27:45):
so the webbing of the bathing suit, so I managed
to hang on to that for dear life. On the
right ankle, I get dropped off, and uh and I'm like,
you know, naked in the water, trying to get my
swimsuit on. And ever he's panicked on the beach because
there's tiger sharks. Everybody is fleeing the beach and somehow
(28:06):
I have managed to create this huge scene. People are
expecting me to get it eaten. So I've been, you know,
kind of in fear of sharks even more so ever
since that day.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
So I think, you know, after having.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Overcome that, after that story, I think now you definitely
have to do the Alcatraz swim, just just for your
your own dignity, you know. I feel like, well, a
wet suit's harder to get ripped off, I would think.
So if I'm in a wet suit, I think I
would be okay. But that's a true story. If you're
listening right now and you were on Panama City Beach
in June of nineteen ninety or so, and you saw
a kid mooning the whole beach.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
That was me. Now you're listening to me on the radio.
So I survived.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
That is probably a story that you didn't expect to
hear today.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Buck when you started you started off the day, it's
a I did not. And here we are, and let
me think of what we could transition.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
You can weigh in eight hundred two four two two
what is it? Two a two two eight a two?
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
But in the meantime, if you want to win a prize,
like I want a prize on Panama City Beach back
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Speaker 2 (29:24):
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Speaker 1 (29:25):
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Find them on the Free iHeartRadio app or wherever you
get your podcasts discussion about this and Clay, she was
I think a vote probably for you would make it,
but I think you'd be quite haggard after this. I
think that you'd be you'd have a tough one. Grandma
Judy said, we are the cure for depression. She said
she would giggle too much to come on the air.
(30:26):
She just wanted that message to be packed along. Oh
that's passed along, by the way, Very nice from Grandma Judy.
Breaking news actually in the Oval Office. This is going
to trigger a lot of people. Trump has just announced
that the twenty twenty seven NFL Draft will take place
in Washington, DC, that he will help host it, and
(30:46):
that it will be on the National Mall. Roger Goodell,
the Commissioner of the NFL, in the Oval Office right now,
along with the owner of the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
They'll always be the red skin.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
To me is really yeah, this is literally help host
the NFL Draft while he's I mean, I'm assuming he'll
be there showing up and announcing it. I mean I
would be stunned if they're doing it on the National Mall.
If he's announcing it right now, I would think he'd
probably announce a pick, which will everybody bonkers. Uh, but
we'll play that video for you. It's legit happening right
(31:22):
now as we are, as we are speaking.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
I guess maybe I'll end up actually watching an NFL
draft at some point.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
What happened?
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Have they?
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Have they calmed down about the fellow.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Sanders, mister Chador very sad I'm supposed to be for
this Chador fellow. I don't I know he waiting about
it to the Cleveland Browns in the fifth round. It
does seem that everybody has basically calmed down. But I
will say, you know this, You've learned it doing the
show with me.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
The sports media is going to lose their minds over
Roger Goodell, the commissioner of the NFL, being present at
the White House, for Trump to announce that the NFL
Draft is taking place, and that basically he'll be I mean,
you know, on the mall, I would be stunned. I
would be stunned, Buck, if he's not announcing some picks
(32:12):
or engaged in some way in a monster fashion. I mean,
it's right there in front of the White House.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
I think it's.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Taken so long for us to get to this point
that we don't really even we're not processing it necessarily
or enjoying it as much as we should, which is that.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
The era of.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Just companies and an organization's feel like they are free
to or feel compelled to always kind of stick a
thumb in the eye of anybody who's conservative or on
the writer or Republican. I really think that it's if
it hasn't come to an end, it's certainly a fraction
(32:57):
of what it used to be. I mean, it's a
uh either there's been such a tremendous change here where
companies I think at least recognize that they can't get
away with it anymore, so maybe they still want to
do it. I'm not saying everyone's changed their minds, obviously,
I know a lot of people voted for Kamala and
all that, but whether it's Clay, I mean, look at
the sports stuff. I remember when there when when the
(33:20):
wokeness in sports even I was paying attention because it
was everywhere, and you know, whether it was the BLM
stuff and everything else, it's it's gone right now. Maybe
we're just at a lull, but it seems to have
at least temporarily evaporated, and I think it's such a
good thing. No, it's totally a different world. I mean,
(33:41):
the Philadelphia Eagles just visited the White House. I think
this is an interesting way to kind of bring it
home for people to Now, some players didn't go, whatever
scheduling conflicts. They may not like Trump, but the team
itself went. Coaches, owners, a lot of the players, and
they were in the White House celebrating their Super Bowl
championship and they didn't go. In twenty eighteen, they refused
(34:05):
the President's invitation to visit the White House. Now, maybe
an NBA team or a WNBA team is not going
to be willing to go to the White House. We'll
see how that plays out. But the rest of sports
has just kind of returned to normalcy. And if you
told people, I don't know, eight years ago when Trump
was ripping Colin Kaepernick for not standing for the national anthem,
(34:30):
that one day the commissioner of the NFL, same commissioner
who was there then, Roger Goodell, would be showing up
in the Oval Office to shake hands and celebrate with
Trump the national NFL Draft coming to the National Mall.
I think a lot of people would have would have
called you crazy. Yet that clip is out. We will
play it for you when we come back. But first,
(34:51):
I think we're going to be joined by Nicole Parker
of the FBI to talk about the change that's heard
in the FBI since Cash mcfell came into office. Yeah,
ang and wokeness in the federal law enforcement ranked Nicole Parker,
former FBI agent, Fox News contributors, she'll be with us
here in just a few minutes.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
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