December 12, 2024 • 36 mins
What the HECK is going on with these drones over NJ? Hundreds of reports of drone sightings. The late night comedians are joking about Chris Wray resigning- but they’re propagandists, not comedians. What is the best alien movie? Buck takes calls from listeners about the drones- theories about what they are. The FBI admits to having 26 people in the crowd on January 6th.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, second hour clay en Buck kicks off, and
I know I said we talk United Healthcare Assassin aftermath,
and we will.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
But some of you been have been poking me on
this one, and.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
I think it's worth us having a little discussion over first,
what the heck is going on with these drones over
New Jersey, you know, Jersey.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
What's happening here? I don't know. People are asking me.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Look, you gotta remember I've I officially left the CIA in.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Uh oh gosh, twenty eleven.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I think so, yeah, maybe it's maybe it's the end
of twenty ten and a drone technology as well as UFOs,
that's all. You know, that's a long time. I mean,
that's that could be like light years difference, right, So
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
People ask me this. I don't know. I wish, I
wish I had.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I wish there was a dare I say, Harry Potter
like Book of Secrets or Wisdom or some I'm thinking
the CI that's got like Area fifty one, jfk assassination,
all these things, and I had access to it. But no,
it was not that cool. It was not like that.
And yeah, they did not give me, you know, exploding
cuff links or an Aston Martin with machine guns in it.
(01:17):
That was really disappointing, by the way, because that would
have been cool. I don't know, but I do know
that something weird is going on. And here's what we've
got with this. Every news outlet is essentially covering this,
and if you haven't been paying attention to it, there
have been hundreds of reports of drone sightings in the
(01:40):
sky in New Jersey and a lot of like video
of this too. And I guess it used to be.
Now there are other people who are much deeper on
the UFO stuff than I am. I just want to
I want to assert this some of my conservative brethren.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
What is the female for brethren, It's cistern? Is that right? Anyway?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Some of my conservative brothers and sisters out there are
way more into the UFO thing than I am. And
I will say a rare point of contention within the
Sexton family, who generally see eye to eye on things.
Got a family of great patriots. About half of us
think that there are UFOs that are extraterrestrial life, and
half of the Sexton's are on my I'm the skeptic,
(02:27):
so I am if Scully is the skeptic, right and
Moulder is the believer. Am I right in that? So
from from the old X Files days. I did watch
it as a kid. I just don't remember it very well.
I mean those guy who's a girl that are aliens
stuff like that. I'm on the very skeptical side of
the not that you don't see things or what. Clearly
(02:47):
people are seeing things, but I just don't think that
there's little green alien manner any of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
And it wasn't there. It wasn't long ago.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
They actually had a uh was it in somewhere in
Latin America? Right, They had the remains of an alien
and they were trying.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
To pass this off and people are like, no, it's real,
it's real. Like, I'm pretty sure it's not. I'm pretty
sure it's not. Anyway.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yeah, So back to what's going on here with the Wow.
Cistern is the word. I just learned a new word
that I didn't even know that was a word. See,
we learned together. That's one of the great things about
this show. I want to learn stuff to talk to
you about it, and that means I have to learn
stuff all the time. Honestly, side note in all seriousness,
one of my favorite parts of this job is that
I can constantly justify reading whatever book I want and
(03:37):
taking the time to dive into any topic because the
more I know, the better I am as a radio host,
the more information I have.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
So I do love that, right.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I mean, if I were like a structural engineer building
bridges or something, the very important job. But I don't
think it's you don't get you to show up and
be like I was reading about the siege of Malta
fifteen sixties and let me tell you about it. So yes,
I've learned a new word today. And I also have
learned that the Pentagon is apparently saying that this isn't
(04:07):
their stuff, So we know that the UFOs aren't officially
speaking from the Pentagon. Now that they could be, they
could be not actually telling us the truth, wouldn't be
the first time here is let me just put this
out there. We have members of Congress, like Congressman Jeff
Van Drew has said that Iran, you know what, here
(04:29):
is a United States Congressman from New Jersey explaining what
he sees or what's going on here with these drones
over the sky.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
In New Jersey. It's got twenty six play.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Iran launched a mothership probably about a month ago that
contains these drones. That mothership is off I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Tell you the deal.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
It's off the east coast of the United States of America.
They've launched drones. Is everything that we can see or hear.
And again, these are from high sources. I don't say
this slightly. Iran and made a deal with China to
purchase drones, motherships, and technology in order to go forward.
The sources I have are good. They can't reveal who
(05:10):
they are because they are speaking to me in confidentiality.
These drones should be shot down, whether it was some
crazy hobbyist that we can't imagine, or whether it is Iran,
and I think it very possibly could be, they should
be shot down.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Okay, This is a United States Congressman saying he has
sources who have told him that this is that there's
an Iranian drone mothership off the US East coast that
is the hub for these drones to be in the
sky in New Jersey in a is that is that possible?
(05:51):
It sounds a little sounds a little off to me,
but I don't know. And here's what I do know.
I do know that there was a spy.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Balloon that was just kind of flying over the US
for all.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Remember that one just sort of just oooh, just going
over the US in our airspace.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
And no one knew what to do about it or what.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Just just Chinese spy balloon flying over the United States
taking pictures of stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
I know that droned. So this is where I like
to start on these things.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
There's the stuff that we know and can talk about,
and then we can get into the theories. And by
the way, I want, I want realistic theories or explanations
about this. If you call and tell me that you
yourself were kidnapped by little green men, they experimented on you,
I don't think we're going to put that on the air.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
So if you have a real theory about what this is, especially.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
If you have a background in I don't know, aeronautics, aerospace,
and defense, whatever it may be, let me know and
call in to us and tell us what you think
is going on here. Because here's the If it's not foreign,
which we have been told by different reports now, and
if it is not American, what is it. I don't
(07:02):
believe that it's actual aliens, just to be clear, but
I'm also highly skeptical of all that stuff. I agree
with Elon Musk on this. The guy who's actually putting
rockets into space. He's like, if there was intelligent life
that we had already been in contact with, we would know.
This wouldn't be a hard thing. This wouldn't be a
hard thing to figure out. Oh I know, Oh gosh,
I'm sorry. Team, you're gonna get the emails. You're gonna
get over this one.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
How dare you, sir?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
How dare unidentified unidentified flying.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
You?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
A unidentified aeriel?
Speaker 4 (07:32):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
UAP? Now that's the new one they use UFO.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Why can't we just say UFO unidentified flying object, unidentified
aerial phenomena. I guess because it can be like a
light or something. It's not necessarily an object that is real.
Of course, we have evidence of that. We have pilots,
military pilots and others who have said they've seen stuff
that's that's very funky. Funky is not the scientific term,
but it is a term that I like to use.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
That's all. That's all.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Well, I'm good, but we don't have any evidence of
actual foreign space aliens or anything. Look, I don't talk
about UFOs on the show. I don't get that deep
into the stuff because I think it's generally a waste
of time. But when there are drones flying over US
sovereign territory and we know that there's something going on
and no one seems to have a real answer about it,
(08:20):
I do think that that is something we should demand
some answers for right. The drones, according to NBC News,
take that as you will, which are not hobbyists but commercial,
commercial grade devices. According to many officials have smart concerns
over privacy, security, and public safety. Since the first sightings
in mid November, eyewitness reports social media videos that officials
(08:44):
confirm the drones are up to six feet in diameter,
can quickly go from emitting eerie lights to no light
at all and often avoid detection.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
This is NBC News.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
This isn't you know UFO slash Unidentified Aliens dot net.
You know this is a news site. The unexplained drone
sightings and the lack of information about them are prompting
uncertainty and frustration from local officials and law enforcement agencies,
who say agencies like the FBI and Homeland Security aren't
(09:16):
doing enough to be transparent with residents. At a Wednesday
briefing by Governor Phil Murphy's office Governor New Jersey, a
representative from Homeland Security joined via Skype to speak alongside
state officials on the issue. The FBI announced it was
opening an investigation. Did not have a representative present. Little
(09:36):
information is available, so just no one is saying there
aren't drones.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
I haven't like that.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
So there are drones, although tell us is what they're not,
but they won't tell us what they are.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
I think that's a little weird.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Something smells on that, right, there's an issue here, and
here's something else that I know. I know the Jeff
Andrew comment about Iran and the mothership whatever might sound crazy. Iran, Russia, China,
and North Korea our work are more enmeshed and more
intertwined over the last four years than at any time
(10:13):
I think ever. Those countries are doing more transfer of
military technology, obviously, oil business, all kinds of stuff they are.
And when you're talking about Russian and Chinese and North
Korean technology and mixed in with you know, whatever Iran
has in the pot, there could be some stuff that
(10:37):
is much more advanced than what we would be used
to from any one of those countries. There could be
some stuff we haven't seen yet. You know, you can't
tell me that AI is the future and going to
change the world we live in and make computers smarter.
I mean, this is a very basic way of approaching
(10:57):
and make computers smarter than we ever imagined was possible beforehand.
And then also tell me that there aren't advances in
aerospace and missile and weapons technology, drone technology that are
going to be incredibly rapid and seem very space age,
if you will, in the near future. Like these things
all line up. But I also think that on this issue,
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the fact that the government still seems to believe they
can just tell us, yeah, you know, we got nothing
to say on that, or we don't have to give
you answers on that. No, you really do, you really do?
We have to know what's going on here. And I
think that we've become a little too particularly in the
Biden era, we've become a little too complacent as a
(11:46):
country about true foreign adversaries. I don't know, maybe because
the president's son was getting millions of dollars from China,
it certainly didn't hurt. China certainly didn't hurt. I think
that's something we can all agree on. All right, I'm
gonna take some of your your drone calls on this one,
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To be VIP.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
But this is bizarre, honestly, and it does remind me
of the frenzy around the Chinese spy balloon, which eventually
they just did to say, Yeah, China's taken photos of
all of our sensitive stuff from way way high up
in the sky. And what do we do about it?
You know, what are we gonna do about it? I
mean shooting down these drones? Could we even do that
if we wanted to? What do we shoot them down with?
(12:31):
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So we're gonna take some of your UFO commentary.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Coming up here.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I am very curious to see what you think or
UAP unidentified aerial phenomena. That is something that I wasn't
expecting to be talking about today on the show. But
the stake over New Jersey look New Jersey also has
some very lovely parts. But you know, like, really, why
only New Jersey? I got a lot of questions here right,
(15:35):
they're not I haven't seen them anywhere only over New Jersey.
A lot of you would start to take shots at
the Turnpike and all, you know in the smell coming
into New York.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I'm not doing that.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
I'm just saying why New Jersey and and not you know,
anywhere else? You know, drones don't want to check out
what's going on in the Hampton's or something. It's it
seems like it strikes me as fishy, That's all I'm saying.
The whole thing strikes me as a bit fishy. And also,
I will tell you the Democrats getting all worked up
(16:08):
over the FBI resignation, it just feels like they can't
How much can they really pretend to care about things
when they know their audience no longer really believes them.
I wonder what the answer to that question is. You
got a Colbert This is cut eight is upset that
America's top law enforcement officer. Well, here here's his hahaha,
(16:32):
unfunny joke play a breaking.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Story this afternoon out of Washington, DC, FBI Director Christopher
Ray has announced plans to step down before Trump's inauguration. Well,
I think it's fitting that America's top law enforcement officer
is timing his resignation to coincide with the end of law.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
You know, I know it's supposed to be joke, but
he's a propaganda It's really not a joke. It's meant
to make people who have lived in this anti Trump
delusion still feel comfortable in that delusion. So it's meant
to keep them believing things that are lies. It's meant
to keep them believing things that are untrue.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
And and for me, I just.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
I'm sitting here and I'm so reminded of they really
tried to throw Trump in prison. Can we all keep
that in mind as he's coming into the president again.
I know, you know, and I know, but this was
the plan. The plan was to throw them into prison.
They brought four different criminal prosecutions against him for garbage,
(17:35):
for non crimes, for Nothingville, for naha, and they want
a lectures about rule of law. Really, oh man, I
gotta say no. Wonder people are turning off a lot
of these shows, a lot of these channels. There's just
no way to be a well adjusted person who has
(17:55):
the capability of independent thought and to go along with
any of these guards.
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we're about to get into your calls here about the
UFOs over New Jersey.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
You know what I mean, They're looking for the best
place to get some more to Della. You know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
No, I'm wondering. I know that's only a little part
of New Jersey that's near New York. There are people
live in like southern New Jersey. In western New Jersey.
I think there's it's like turkey and bear hunting in
parts of New Jersey. I know, it's like beautiful state.
It's a rurald But New Yorkers have this very limited
it's really the Sopranos. I'm just gonna say the Sopranos
kind of dominated. And then I guess the Jersey Shore.
(19:33):
The pop culture sense of New Jersey, of the garden
state called such because it is so lovely in so
many places, so we have this very fun and plus
I'm from New York, so it's New Jersey's like our
little brother. You just have to sometimes just give them
a little little shot in the ribs.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
You know, you love them. I love New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I love them, but I gotta give them a little
shot in the ribs sometimes but they get yeah, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
You know, it's like, come on.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
But I also think that we should figure out why
there are unidentified aerial objects flying around in New Jersey airspace.
Everyone's saying drones. Okay, let's assume they're drones. Who's drones?
We'll take calls on this momentarily also makes me think, what.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Is the best alien movie? You know, what is the
best alien movie?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I feel like I really like this series, the original
series V for Victory from way back in the day.
I remember watching that and I thought that was really cool.
This is a long time ago, well at least for me,
and I'm trying to think what else would be. Everyone
loves Independence Day. I mean, it's it's hokey, but it
is good, Like I enjoy Independence Day man Will Smith.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Who would have thought?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
But you know, there's some really good alien stuff out there.
I'm trying to think of what the what the single best?
Let me know, send me some emails or calling with
some ideas for the best alien movie or TV show
of all time. Marilyn in Pennsylvania has some thoughts on
the Jersey drone. O.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
What's going on Maryland?
Speaker 6 (21:02):
Well, it's pretty much of a no brainer to me.
If the nine Entity was responsible for it, they would
have come forward already and have calmed everybody down. But
since that hasn't happened, obviously they're malevolent and they have
to be eliminated.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I see your logic here, and I don't see the
flaw in it with I mean, maybe we just wouldn't
be able to scramble fighters in time and get them
in this airspace. And I don't know what the capabilities
are for Air National Guard in New.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Jersey or something.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
But yeah, if it was thank you for calling in Maryland.
I think this is an Akham's razor moment, where if
it was just Amazon getting ready to deliver, you know,
your next package of razors or something, wouldn't they just
say yeah, no, it's our stuff, guys, no worries. So
we all agree they're a drug like This isn't a
no one actually saw anything moment. That's those are the
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tough ones when someone's like, oh, they were little men
and then there was like a ray beam from this
flying saucer.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
We never hear flying saucer anymore? Why is that flying saucer?
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (22:08):
That was a thing too, but they never you never
hear about or Rather, this isn't about whether people believe
that there was a thing.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
It's just what is the thing? Everyone seems to agree
there were things, So what is the thing or the things?
There's many of them.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Randy in Cocoa, Florida, Floridian like me, what's going on?
Speaker 7 (22:31):
Randy, Hi, Clay and Buck. I love your show. I
and my wife listened to it all the time. You
make a tremendous lifeline of sanity in very very dark times,
and I thank you very much for that.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Thank you, sir.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
To start off on Independence Day, my classmate Bill Pullman,
that was his first good break. We both lived on
the first floor of Golden Hall at Oneada State College,
and I enjoyed thoroughly following his career and watching him
develop and grow as an actor. Well getting up there
now we're in our seventies.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
He's a good actor, you know, he's I think he's
a little underrated.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Actually, was he a cool guy?
Speaker 7 (23:14):
Yes he was. We used to go training. We would
steal trays out of Lee Hall and then ride them
down the slope in front of our dorm. Not sure
whatever happened to the trays, but we had a great time.
My question or my remark about the UFOs is the
Air Force needs to track them conscientiously because eventually a
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pattern of where they're going from and coming to would develop,
and they need to identify that location. And if it's
a ship, they need to blow it to smithereens if
it's a location in the United States, they need to
glass it. There's no substitute for common sense here. And
I don't understand why the Air Force is showing a
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complete lack of aggressiveness with respect to this. And if
Uncle Joe, crazy Uncle Joe doesn't want them to do
anything about it, they should disobey him. They're not under
an obligation to obey orders that are absurd or illegal.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
All right, thank you so much, Thank you so much
for calling in. Yeah, I can't explain why there's all
this unexplained stuff going on here. And just remember they
had to shoot down that. It was just back in
twenty twenty three, so we all remember it.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
They had to.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Shoot down that Chinese spy balloon off.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Of the US territorial waters off the coast of South Carolina, right,
So this kind of thing has happened recently where yeah,
there was a foreign adversary and this is all agreed upon.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Again, this is facts in public in evidence. Everyone agrees
we had the Chinese come up with a let's be
fair to them, a clever way of taking a lot
of surveillance photos and footage and other things too, other
readings that we're not even really thinking about.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
There's a lot you know.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Maybe they were able to get a lot of suck
up a lot of communications technology, that kind of stuff.
So yeah, this isn't it's not unthinkable that there could
be a foreign adversary that would use a form of
drone that we weren't particularly well versed in or familiar
with in the past. I would assume you would need
(25:37):
to have a particular expertise in this, I think to
know whether they have any capability like this. I do
know that, for example, in Ukraine, already on the front
lines between Russian and Ukraine. Drones are being Drones are
now a constant.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Part of warfare. They used to be.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
We thought of drones as really the Reaper, the Reaper drone,
and the Predator drone.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Right, the Reaper was bigger. There's a Predator drone.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Predator drone has the hell fire missiles, and I think
the I forget Reaper probably has munitions too.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
It's been a while since I.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Was, you know, in the game, but Reaper was mostly
long high altitude surveillance stuff like that, right, And the
Predator drone was used in strikes, and it's been all
these movies and stuff. Now now you have people infantryment
on the front lines operating their own drones, their own
lethal drones. It's not particularly sophisticated technology, but it's become ubiquitous.
(26:34):
And it also they're also used for surveillance purposes, such
that you even see these reports about the need for
twelve gage shotguns with bird shot on the front lines
of a war, because that's really the best tool to shoot.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Down a drone.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Just like you would a duck, you can shoot down
a drone that's coming in to try to explode in
your your foxhole or in your trench in eastern Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
So this stuff is advancing very, very rapidly. We'll take
one more here.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Dennis and Texas worked at a naval air research facility.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
What's going on, Dennis, Hi, I can play.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
I'm glad to speak to you, first time caller, a
longtime listener to you and your predecessor. I worked in
my professional career years ago in a company that did
research and development work for all four services, and we
worked with Picatinny, with Patuxet, which is another facility on
(27:31):
the Patuxet River that the Navy uses for research projects,
not too far away from New Jersey, and these are
sensitive sites today. My concern is that these drones are
doing what you said. They're tracking, they're measuring, they're assessing,
(27:54):
their gathering GPS information. But I'm wondering why they haven't
if they are foreign, been taken down because of what
happened with the Chinese balloon. I mean, that was such
an embarrassment for the country, let alone the administration. I
would think that by now, if if we had a capability,
(28:15):
or if we were being truthful about what's going on here,
we would have taken them down, and quite frankly, at
the altitude they're flying, you know, a three inch magnum
number six shot would take them down. Or if they're
trying to run away, which they seem to be doing
by the way, when you get close to them, which
means they're being actively controlled, then you know, directed energy
(28:38):
weapon would easily take down something flying that low and
that's slow. And I think our Pentagons is simply lying
to us.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Interesting, all right, Yeah, that is the simplest explanation, is
that this is a sensitive military program. That is they're
not being honest about. My issue was, and that is,
why are they doing this out? And like why dow Jersey,
why broad daylight or you know, out in the open?
I mean, I think this is going on at night
mostly right, but why do this in a place where
(29:11):
people are going to see it unless they're also doing
some form of spying. I don't thank you so much, Dennis.
I don't have the answers on this one. Well, no
one seems to have the real answers yet. We'll we'll
continue to look at this and figure it out, but
it's it's definitely strange. And look, one thing I think
you can expect from the incoming Trump administration. Are they
(29:34):
going to release files about some of this stuff that
for some reason in the past they have been unwilling
to talking about the classified side of things they've been
unwilling to release. I think the answer is going to
be yes. I think that they're going to say, you
know what, people need to know. People have a right
to know about some of this, and that.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Could get very interesting. That could get very interesting.
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things here a little breaking news for you. FBI wanting
to I think front run the story if you will,
before the Trump administration comes in. The Inspector General of
(31:23):
the Department of Justice, Michael Horowitz, has come out with
the number of confidential human sources the FBI had in
the crowd on January sixth, twenty six of them, I
believe is the number.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Over two dozen.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
It says here, I think twenty six is the total
three assigned to the FBI to be present for the event,
according to Fox News is reporting on this. But so
there were a couple dozen FBI informants in the crowd.
A few things to note on this one. Okay, that's
what they're telling us. We'll see right there, they're putting
(32:08):
this out there beforehand, right before, right before Trump takes over.
Isn't that so interesting? Isn't the timing fascinating?
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Right before Trump takes over?
Speaker 1 (32:18):
They like, oh no, no, we only had a We
only had twenty six FBI informants in the January sixth crowd.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Twenty six. It's a pretty pretty good number.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Okay, it wasn't one in twenty six of them, and
three of them were directed, they say, by the FBI
to be there. Others just happened to be there.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Hmmm. That's interesting. Look.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
I can tell you from having been a part of
the NYPD Intelligence Divisions Undercover counter Terrors and Investigations and
operations in New York City that a lot of the
handler informant relationship, the handler being the government guy, the
(33:04):
person with the badge.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Is spoken and not written down.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
A lot of it is talked about in person and
not necessarily written up. Oh, I know, Buck, that's not
what the regulations say. Yeah, I know. So there's there's
gonna be more than this. I can tell you. I
don't just accept this at face value. Point one point two. Yeah,
(33:32):
we'll see they're saying, Oh, none of them were directed
to directed to tell anybody to do anything illegal on
January sixth. Yeah, I'm sure they didn't write out in
an email, hey, guys, start a riot and then blame
Trump supporters for it or whatever. I don't think the
FBI would do that as inept as it seems the
(33:54):
Secret Services. I don't think the Secret Service would do
that either. You see this Secret Service guy fired six
rounds from five feet away at Ryan Ruth, the attempted
assassin of Donald Trump at the golf course. Not the
guy who actually shot Trump's here. That's a different guy.
Second assassination attempt on Donald Trump, Secret Service five feet away,
(34:16):
six rounds, no hits five feet. I do a lot
of shooting. If you can't hit somebody with six rounds
at five feet, you should not be carrying a firearm
in law enforcement. I'm sorry, that's just the truth, right,
(34:37):
And I'm actually not sorry.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
You all know that's true.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
If you can't hit a human sized I'm not even
saying center mass, We're not even talking about like two
in the chest, one on the head, you know, neutralize
the threat. I'm saying you can't even hit a adult
human target at five feet anywhere. Not in the knee,
not in the foot, not in the arm, nothing. You
shouldn't be carrying a firearm. It was a rough year
(35:01):
last year for the Secret Service. There's no I'm sorry
this past year. So I keep thinking it's twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
In my head. It was a rough year for the
Secret Service. Anyway.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
I don't I want to get on that too much
now because the point here, the primary news story is
still that the FBI is coming forward to tell us, oh, yeah, look,
we had a few dozen informants in that crowd, but
like they weren't told to do bad things? Okay, what
do they do? What did they actually say? What were
they involved? What would happen if we put them under
oath and said, hey, what would happen if we pulled
(35:33):
their personal communications text messages? These strike me as valid questions. No,
I don't know, Maybe they'll strike cash Betel and coming
FBI director as valid questions for more follow up. Uh,
they're clearly doing this because they want to get ahead
of whatever is going to come out.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I'm very aware of this, so you don't have to
email me and tell me Buck, but you got underd No.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
I know what they're doing. I'm telling you so that
we all know. You know, I know, we know what
they are doing. But the timing of this is not
an accident at all. I will continue to follow this one.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
We'd come back.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
I want to talk to you about this United Healthcare
CEO assassination. We've gotten a lot of emails, a lot
of calls about it. I have some pretty strong feelings
on it, and I think we should address that. And
also we'll get into more of your calls, more of
your emails, all that good stuff. So stick around and
(36:30):
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All right, second hour clay en Buck kicks off, and
I know I said we talk United Healthcare Assassin aftermath,
and we will.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
But some of you been have been poking me on
this one, and.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
I think it's worth us having a little discussion over first,
what the heck is going on with these drones over
New Jersey, you know, Jersey.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
What's happening here? I don't know. People are asking me.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Look, you gotta remember I've I officially left the CIA in.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Uh oh gosh, twenty eleven.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I think so, yeah, maybe it's maybe it's the end
of twenty ten and a drone technology as well as UFOs,
that's all. You know, that's a long time. I mean,
that's that could be like light years difference, right, So
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
People ask me this. I don't know. I wish, I
wish I had.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I wish there was a dare I say, Harry Potter
like Book of Secrets or Wisdom or some I'm thinking
the CI that's got like Area fifty one, jfk assassination,
all these things, and I had access to it. But no,
it was not that cool. It was not like that.
And yeah, they did not give me, you know, exploding
cuff links or an Aston Martin with machine guns in it.
(01:17):
That was really disappointing, by the way, because that would
have been cool. I don't know, but I do know
that something weird is going on. And here's what we've
got with this. Every news outlet is essentially covering this,
and if you haven't been paying attention to it, there
have been hundreds of reports of drone sightings in the
(01:40):
sky in New Jersey and a lot of like video
of this too. And I guess it used to be.
Now there are other people who are much deeper on
the UFO stuff than I am. I just want to
I want to assert this some of my conservative brethren.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
What is the female for brethren, It's cistern? Is that right? Anyway?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Some of my conservative brothers and sisters out there are
way more into the UFO thing than I am. And
I will say a rare point of contention within the
Sexton family, who generally see eye to eye on things.
Got a family of great patriots. About half of us
think that there are UFOs that are extraterrestrial life, and
half of the Sexton's are on my I'm the skeptic,
(02:27):
so I am if Scully is the skeptic, right and
Moulder is the believer. Am I right in that? So
from from the old X Files days. I did watch
it as a kid. I just don't remember it very well.
I mean those guy who's a girl that are aliens
stuff like that. I'm on the very skeptical side of
the not that you don't see things or what. Clearly
(02:47):
people are seeing things, but I just don't think that
there's little green alien manner any of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
And it wasn't there. It wasn't long ago.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
They actually had a uh was it in somewhere in
Latin America? Right, They had the remains of an alien
and they were trying.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
To pass this off and people are like, no, it's real,
it's real. Like, I'm pretty sure it's not. I'm pretty
sure it's not. Anyway.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yeah, So back to what's going on here with the Wow.
Cistern is the word. I just learned a new word
that I didn't even know that was a word. See,
we learned together. That's one of the great things about
this show. I want to learn stuff to talk to
you about it, and that means I have to learn
stuff all the time. Honestly, side note in all seriousness,
one of my favorite parts of this job is that
I can constantly justify reading whatever book I want and
(03:37):
taking the time to dive into any topic because the
more I know, the better I am as a radio host,
the more information I have.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
So I do love that, right.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I mean, if I were like a structural engineer building
bridges or something, the very important job. But I don't
think it's you don't get you to show up and
be like I was reading about the siege of Malta
fifteen sixties and let me tell you about it. So yes,
I've learned a new word today. And I also have
learned that the Pentagon is apparently saying that this isn't
(04:07):
their stuff, So we know that the UFOs aren't officially
speaking from the Pentagon. Now that they could be, they
could be not actually telling us the truth, wouldn't be
the first time here is let me just put this
out there. We have members of Congress, like Congressman Jeff
Van Drew has said that Iran, you know what, here
(04:29):
is a United States Congressman from New Jersey explaining what
he sees or what's going on here with these drones
over the sky.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
In New Jersey. It's got twenty six play.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Iran launched a mothership probably about a month ago that
contains these drones. That mothership is off I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Tell you the deal.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
It's off the east coast of the United States of America.
They've launched drones. Is everything that we can see or hear.
And again, these are from high sources. I don't say
this slightly. Iran and made a deal with China to
purchase drones, motherships, and technology in order to go forward.
The sources I have are good. They can't reveal who
(05:10):
they are because they are speaking to me in confidentiality.
These drones should be shot down, whether it was some
crazy hobbyist that we can't imagine, or whether it is Iran,
and I think it very possibly could be, they should
be shot down.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Okay, This is a United States Congressman saying he has
sources who have told him that this is that there's
an Iranian drone mothership off the US East coast that
is the hub for these drones to be in the
sky in New Jersey in a is that is that possible?
(05:51):
It sounds a little sounds a little off to me,
but I don't know. And here's what I do know.
I do know that there was a spy.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Balloon that was just kind of flying over the US
for all.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Remember that one just sort of just oooh, just going
over the US in our airspace.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
And no one knew what to do about it or what.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Just just Chinese spy balloon flying over the United States
taking pictures of stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
I know that droned. So this is where I like
to start on these things.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
There's the stuff that we know and can talk about,
and then we can get into the theories. And by
the way, I want, I want realistic theories or explanations
about this. If you call and tell me that you
yourself were kidnapped by little green men, they experimented on you,
I don't think we're going to put that on the air.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
So if you have a real theory about what this is, especially.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
If you have a background in I don't know, aeronautics, aerospace,
and defense, whatever it may be, let me know and
call in to us and tell us what you think
is going on here. Because here's the If it's not foreign,
which we have been told by different reports now, and
if it is not American, what is it. I don't
(07:02):
believe that it's actual aliens, just to be clear, but
I'm also highly skeptical of all that stuff. I agree
with Elon Musk on this. The guy who's actually putting
rockets into space. He's like, if there was intelligent life
that we had already been in contact with, we would know.
This wouldn't be a hard thing. This wouldn't be a
hard thing to figure out. Oh I know, Oh gosh,
I'm sorry. Team, you're gonna get the emails. You're gonna
get over this one.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
How dare you, sir?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
How dare unidentified unidentified flying.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
You?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
A unidentified aeriel?
Speaker 4 (07:32):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
UAP? Now that's the new one they use UFO.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Why can't we just say UFO unidentified flying object, unidentified
aerial phenomena. I guess because it can be like a
light or something. It's not necessarily an object that is real.
Of course, we have evidence of that. We have pilots,
military pilots and others who have said they've seen stuff
that's that's very funky. Funky is not the scientific term,
but it is a term that I like to use.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
That's all. That's all.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Well, I'm good, but we don't have any evidence of
actual foreign space aliens or anything. Look, I don't talk
about UFOs on the show. I don't get that deep
into the stuff because I think it's generally a waste
of time. But when there are drones flying over US
sovereign territory and we know that there's something going on
and no one seems to have a real answer about it,
(08:20):
I do think that that is something we should demand
some answers for right. The drones, according to NBC News,
take that as you will, which are not hobbyists but commercial,
commercial grade devices. According to many officials have smart concerns
over privacy, security, and public safety. Since the first sightings
in mid November, eyewitness reports social media videos that officials
(08:44):
confirm the drones are up to six feet in diameter,
can quickly go from emitting eerie lights to no light
at all and often avoid detection.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
This is NBC News.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
This isn't you know UFO slash Unidentified Aliens dot net.
You know this is a news site. The unexplained drone
sightings and the lack of information about them are prompting
uncertainty and frustration from local officials and law enforcement agencies,
who say agencies like the FBI and Homeland Security aren't
(09:16):
doing enough to be transparent with residents. At a Wednesday
briefing by Governor Phil Murphy's office Governor New Jersey, a
representative from Homeland Security joined via Skype to speak alongside
state officials on the issue. The FBI announced it was
opening an investigation. Did not have a representative present. Little
(09:36):
information is available, so just no one is saying there
aren't drones.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
I haven't like that.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
So there are drones, although tell us is what they're not,
but they won't tell us what they are.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
I think that's a little weird.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Something smells on that, right, there's an issue here, and
here's something else that I know. I know the Jeff
Andrew comment about Iran and the mothership whatever might sound crazy. Iran, Russia, China,
and North Korea our work are more enmeshed and more
intertwined over the last four years than at any time
(10:13):
I think ever. Those countries are doing more transfer of
military technology, obviously, oil business, all kinds of stuff they are.
And when you're talking about Russian and Chinese and North
Korean technology and mixed in with you know, whatever Iran
has in the pot, there could be some stuff that
(10:37):
is much more advanced than what we would be used
to from any one of those countries. There could be
some stuff we haven't seen yet. You know, you can't
tell me that AI is the future and going to
change the world we live in and make computers smarter.
I mean, this is a very basic way of approaching
(10:57):
and make computers smarter than we ever imagined was possible beforehand.
And then also tell me that there aren't advances in
aerospace and missile and weapons technology, drone technology that are
going to be incredibly rapid and seem very space age,
if you will, in the near future. Like these things
all line up. But I also think that on this issue,
(11:23):
the fact that the government still seems to believe they
can just tell us, yeah, you know, we got nothing
to say on that, or we don't have to give
you answers on that. No, you really do, you really do?
We have to know what's going on here. And I
think that we've become a little too particularly in the
Biden era, we've become a little too complacent as a
(11:46):
country about true foreign adversaries. I don't know, maybe because
the president's son was getting millions of dollars from China,
it certainly didn't hurt. China certainly didn't hurt. I think
that's something we can all agree on. All right, I'm
gonna take some of your your drone calls on this one,
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Speaker 2 (12:07):
To be VIP.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
But this is bizarre, honestly, and it does remind me
of the frenzy around the Chinese spy balloon, which eventually
they just did to say, Yeah, China's taken photos of
all of our sensitive stuff from way way high up
in the sky. And what do we do about it?
You know, what are we gonna do about it? I
mean shooting down these drones? Could we even do that
if we wanted to? What do we shoot them down with?
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So we're gonna take some of your UFO commentary.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Coming up here.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I am very curious to see what you think or
UAP unidentified aerial phenomena. That is something that I wasn't
expecting to be talking about today on the show. But
the stake over New Jersey look New Jersey also has
some very lovely parts. But you know, like, really, why
only New Jersey? I got a lot of questions here right,
(15:35):
they're not I haven't seen them anywhere only over New Jersey.
A lot of you would start to take shots at
the Turnpike and all, you know in the smell coming
into New York.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I'm not doing that.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
I'm just saying why New Jersey and and not you know,
anywhere else? You know, drones don't want to check out
what's going on in the Hampton's or something. It's it
seems like it strikes me as fishy, That's all I'm saying.
The whole thing strikes me as a bit fishy. And also,
I will tell you the Democrats getting all worked up
(16:08):
over the FBI resignation, it just feels like they can't
How much can they really pretend to care about things
when they know their audience no longer really believes them.
I wonder what the answer to that question is. You
got a Colbert This is cut eight is upset that
America's top law enforcement officer. Well, here here's his hahaha,
(16:32):
unfunny joke play a breaking.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Story this afternoon out of Washington, DC, FBI Director Christopher
Ray has announced plans to step down before Trump's inauguration. Well,
I think it's fitting that America's top law enforcement officer
is timing his resignation to coincide with the end of law.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
You know, I know it's supposed to be joke, but
he's a propaganda It's really not a joke. It's meant
to make people who have lived in this anti Trump
delusion still feel comfortable in that delusion. So it's meant
to keep them believing things that are lies. It's meant
to keep them believing things that are untrue.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
And and for me, I just.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
I'm sitting here and I'm so reminded of they really
tried to throw Trump in prison. Can we all keep
that in mind as he's coming into the president again.
I know, you know, and I know, but this was
the plan. The plan was to throw them into prison.
They brought four different criminal prosecutions against him for garbage,
(17:35):
for non crimes, for Nothingville, for naha, and they want
a lectures about rule of law. Really, oh man, I
gotta say no. Wonder people are turning off a lot
of these shows, a lot of these channels. There's just
no way to be a well adjusted person who has
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the capability of independent thought and to go along with
any of these guards.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
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we're about to get into your calls here about the
UFOs over New Jersey.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
You know what I mean, They're looking for the best
place to get some more to Della. You know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
No, I'm wondering. I know that's only a little part
of New Jersey that's near New York. There are people
live in like southern New Jersey. In western New Jersey.
I think there's it's like turkey and bear hunting in
parts of New Jersey. I know, it's like beautiful state.
It's a rurald But New Yorkers have this very limited
it's really the Sopranos. I'm just gonna say the Sopranos
kind of dominated. And then I guess the Jersey Shore.
(19:33):
The pop culture sense of New Jersey, of the garden
state called such because it is so lovely in so
many places, so we have this very fun and plus
I'm from New York, so it's New Jersey's like our
little brother. You just have to sometimes just give them
a little little shot in the ribs.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
You know, you love them. I love New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I love them, but I gotta give them a little
shot in the ribs sometimes but they get yeah, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
You know, it's like, come on.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
But I also think that we should figure out why
there are unidentified aerial objects flying around in New Jersey airspace.
Everyone's saying drones. Okay, let's assume they're drones. Who's drones?
We'll take calls on this momentarily also makes me think, what.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Is the best alien movie? You know, what is the
best alien movie?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I feel like I really like this series, the original
series V for Victory from way back in the day.
I remember watching that and I thought that was really cool.
This is a long time ago, well at least for me,
and I'm trying to think what else would be. Everyone
loves Independence Day. I mean, it's it's hokey, but it
is good, Like I enjoy Independence Day man Will Smith.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Who would have thought?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
But you know, there's some really good alien stuff out there.
I'm trying to think of what the what the single best?
Let me know, send me some emails or calling with
some ideas for the best alien movie or TV show
of all time. Marilyn in Pennsylvania has some thoughts on
the Jersey drone. O.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
What's going on Maryland?
Speaker 6 (21:02):
Well, it's pretty much of a no brainer to me.
If the nine Entity was responsible for it, they would
have come forward already and have calmed everybody down. But
since that hasn't happened, obviously they're malevolent and they have
to be eliminated.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I see your logic here, and I don't see the
flaw in it with I mean, maybe we just wouldn't
be able to scramble fighters in time and get them
in this airspace. And I don't know what the capabilities
are for Air National Guard in New.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Jersey or something.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
But yeah, if it was thank you for calling in Maryland.
I think this is an Akham's razor moment, where if
it was just Amazon getting ready to deliver, you know,
your next package of razors or something, wouldn't they just
say yeah, no, it's our stuff, guys, no worries. So
we all agree they're a drug like This isn't a
no one actually saw anything moment. That's those are the
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tough ones when someone's like, oh, they were little men
and then there was like a ray beam from this
flying saucer.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
We never hear flying saucer anymore? Why is that flying saucer?
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (22:08):
That was a thing too, but they never you never
hear about or Rather, this isn't about whether people believe
that there was a thing.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
It's just what is the thing? Everyone seems to agree
there were things, So what is the thing or the things?
There's many of them.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Randy in Cocoa, Florida, Floridian like me, what's going on?
Speaker 7 (22:31):
Randy, Hi, Clay and Buck. I love your show. I
and my wife listened to it all the time. You
make a tremendous lifeline of sanity in very very dark times,
and I thank you very much for that.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Thank you, sir.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
To start off on Independence Day, my classmate Bill Pullman,
that was his first good break. We both lived on
the first floor of Golden Hall at Oneada State College,
and I enjoyed thoroughly following his career and watching him
develop and grow as an actor. Well getting up there
now we're in our seventies.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
He's a good actor, you know, he's I think he's
a little underrated.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Actually, was he a cool guy?
Speaker 7 (23:14):
Yes he was. We used to go training. We would
steal trays out of Lee Hall and then ride them
down the slope in front of our dorm. Not sure
whatever happened to the trays, but we had a great time.
My question or my remark about the UFOs is the
Air Force needs to track them conscientiously because eventually a
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pattern of where they're going from and coming to would develop,
and they need to identify that location. And if it's
a ship, they need to blow it to smithereens if
it's a location in the United States, they need to
glass it. There's no substitute for common sense here. And
I don't understand why the Air Force is showing a
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complete lack of aggressiveness with respect to this. And if
Uncle Joe, crazy Uncle Joe doesn't want them to do
anything about it, they should disobey him. They're not under
an obligation to obey orders that are absurd or illegal.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
All right, thank you so much, Thank you so much
for calling in. Yeah, I can't explain why there's all
this unexplained stuff going on here. And just remember they
had to shoot down that. It was just back in
twenty twenty three, so we all remember it.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
They had to.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Shoot down that Chinese spy balloon off.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Of the US territorial waters off the coast of South Carolina, right,
So this kind of thing has happened recently where yeah,
there was a foreign adversary and this is all agreed upon.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Again, this is facts in public in evidence. Everyone agrees
we had the Chinese come up with a let's be
fair to them, a clever way of taking a lot
of surveillance photos and footage and other things too, other
readings that we're not even really thinking about.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
There's a lot you know.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Maybe they were able to get a lot of suck
up a lot of communications technology, that kind of stuff.
So yeah, this isn't it's not unthinkable that there could
be a foreign adversary that would use a form of
drone that we weren't particularly well versed in or familiar
with in the past. I would assume you would need
(25:37):
to have a particular expertise in this, I think to
know whether they have any capability like this. I do
know that, for example, in Ukraine, already on the front
lines between Russian and Ukraine. Drones are being Drones are
now a constant.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Part of warfare. They used to be.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
We thought of drones as really the Reaper, the Reaper drone,
and the Predator drone.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Right, the Reaper was bigger. There's a Predator drone.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Predator drone has the hell fire missiles, and I think
the I forget Reaper probably has munitions too.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
It's been a while since I.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Was, you know, in the game, but Reaper was mostly
long high altitude surveillance stuff like that, right, And the
Predator drone was used in strikes, and it's been all
these movies and stuff. Now now you have people infantryment
on the front lines operating their own drones, their own
lethal drones. It's not particularly sophisticated technology, but it's become ubiquitous.
(26:34):
And it also they're also used for surveillance purposes, such
that you even see these reports about the need for
twelve gage shotguns with bird shot on the front lines
of a war, because that's really the best tool to shoot.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Down a drone.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Just like you would a duck, you can shoot down
a drone that's coming in to try to explode in
your your foxhole or in your trench in eastern Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
So this stuff is advancing very, very rapidly. We'll take
one more here.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Dennis and Texas worked at a naval air research facility.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
What's going on, Dennis, Hi, I can play.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
I'm glad to speak to you, first time caller, a
longtime listener to you and your predecessor. I worked in
my professional career years ago in a company that did
research and development work for all four services, and we
worked with Picatinny, with Patuxet, which is another facility on
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the Patuxet River that the Navy uses for research projects,
not too far away from New Jersey, and these are
sensitive sites today. My concern is that these drones are
doing what you said. They're tracking, they're measuring, they're assessing,
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their gathering GPS information. But I'm wondering why they haven't
if they are foreign, been taken down because of what
happened with the Chinese balloon. I mean, that was such
an embarrassment for the country, let alone the administration. I
would think that by now, if if we had a capability,
(28:15):
or if we were being truthful about what's going on here,
we would have taken them down, and quite frankly, at
the altitude they're flying, you know, a three inch magnum
number six shot would take them down. Or if they're
trying to run away, which they seem to be doing
by the way, when you get close to them, which
means they're being actively controlled, then you know, directed energy
(28:38):
weapon would easily take down something flying that low and
that's slow. And I think our Pentagons is simply lying
to us.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Interesting, all right, Yeah, that is the simplest explanation, is
that this is a sensitive military program. That is they're
not being honest about. My issue was, and that is,
why are they doing this out? And like why dow Jersey,
why broad daylight or you know, out in the open?
I mean, I think this is going on at night
mostly right, but why do this in a place where
(29:11):
people are going to see it unless they're also doing
some form of spying. I don't thank you so much, Dennis.
I don't have the answers on this one. Well, no
one seems to have the real answers yet. We'll we'll
continue to look at this and figure it out, but
it's it's definitely strange. And look, one thing I think
you can expect from the incoming Trump administration. Are they
(29:34):
going to release files about some of this stuff that
for some reason in the past they have been unwilling
to talking about the classified side of things they've been
unwilling to release. I think the answer is going to
be yes. I think that they're going to say, you
know what, people need to know. People have a right
to know about some of this, and that.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Could get very interesting. That could get very interesting.
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things here a little breaking news for you. FBI wanting
to I think front run the story if you will,
before the Trump administration comes in. The Inspector General of
(31:23):
the Department of Justice, Michael Horowitz, has come out with
the number of confidential human sources the FBI had in
the crowd on January sixth, twenty six of them, I
believe is the number.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Over two dozen.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
It says here, I think twenty six is the total
three assigned to the FBI to be present for the event,
according to Fox News is reporting on this. But so
there were a couple dozen FBI informants in the crowd.
A few things to note on this one. Okay, that's
what they're telling us. We'll see right there, they're putting
(32:08):
this out there beforehand, right before, right before Trump takes over.
Isn't that so interesting? Isn't the timing fascinating?
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Right before Trump takes over?
Speaker 1 (32:18):
They like, oh no, no, we only had a We
only had twenty six FBI informants in the January sixth crowd.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Twenty six. It's a pretty pretty good number.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Okay, it wasn't one in twenty six of them, and
three of them were directed, they say, by the FBI
to be there. Others just happened to be there.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Hmmm. That's interesting. Look.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
I can tell you from having been a part of
the NYPD Intelligence Divisions Undercover counter Terrors and Investigations and
operations in New York City that a lot of the
handler informant relationship, the handler being the government guy, the
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person with the badge.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Is spoken and not written down.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
A lot of it is talked about in person and
not necessarily written up. Oh, I know, Buck, that's not
what the regulations say. Yeah, I know. So there's there's
gonna be more than this. I can tell you. I
don't just accept this at face value. Point one point two. Yeah,
(33:32):
we'll see they're saying, Oh, none of them were directed
to directed to tell anybody to do anything illegal on
January sixth. Yeah, I'm sure they didn't write out in
an email, hey, guys, start a riot and then blame
Trump supporters for it or whatever. I don't think the
FBI would do that as inept as it seems the
(33:54):
Secret Services. I don't think the Secret Service would do
that either. You see this Secret Service guy fired six
rounds from five feet away at Ryan Ruth, the attempted
assassin of Donald Trump at the golf course. Not the
guy who actually shot Trump's here. That's a different guy.
Second assassination attempt on Donald Trump, Secret Service five feet away,
(34:16):
six rounds, no hits five feet. I do a lot
of shooting. If you can't hit somebody with six rounds
at five feet, you should not be carrying a firearm
in law enforcement. I'm sorry, that's just the truth, right,
(34:37):
And I'm actually not sorry.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
You all know that's true.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
If you can't hit a human sized I'm not even
saying center mass, We're not even talking about like two
in the chest, one on the head, you know, neutralize
the threat. I'm saying you can't even hit a adult
human target at five feet anywhere. Not in the knee,
not in the foot, not in the arm, nothing. You
shouldn't be carrying a firearm. It was a rough year
(35:01):
last year for the Secret Service. There's no I'm sorry
this past year. So I keep thinking it's twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
In my head. It was a rough year for the
Secret Service. Anyway.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
I don't I want to get on that too much
now because the point here, the primary news story is
still that the FBI is coming forward to tell us, oh, yeah, look,
we had a few dozen informants in that crowd, but
like they weren't told to do bad things? Okay, what
do they do? What did they actually say? What were
they involved? What would happen if we put them under
oath and said, hey, what would happen if we pulled
(35:33):
their personal communications text messages? These strike me as valid questions. No,
I don't know, Maybe they'll strike cash Betel and coming
FBI director as valid questions for more follow up. Uh,
they're clearly doing this because they want to get ahead
of whatever is going to come out.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I'm very aware of this, so you don't have to
email me and tell me Buck, but you got underd No.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
I know what they're doing. I'm telling you so that
we all know. You know, I know, we know what
they are doing. But the timing of this is not
an accident at all. I will continue to follow this one.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
We'd come back.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
I want to talk to you about this United Healthcare
CEO assassination. We've gotten a lot of emails, a lot
of calls about it. I have some pretty strong feelings
on it, and I think we should address that. And
also we'll get into more of your calls, more of
your emails, all that good stuff. So stick around and
(36:30):
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