July 7, 2025 • 36 mins
In Hour 2 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, the hosts deliver a powerful mix of breaking news, political analysis, and cultural commentary. The hour opens with continued coverage of the catastrophic Texas floods, which have claimed over 90 lives in the Hill Country region west of San Antonio. TX Congressman Chip Roy, whose district was directly impacted, is discussed ahead of his upcoming appearance. Clay and Buck emphasize the importance of emergency preparedness, rescue operations, and non-politicized disaster response.
The conversation then shifts to the economic landscape, highlighting the passage of the “Big Beautiful Bill” signed by former President Donald Trump. The hosts analyze its potential to act as “jet fuel for the economy,” citing upcoming trade deals, the expiration of a tariff pause, and the resilience of the stock market. They challenge the pessimistic forecasts of economic collapse, arguing that growth-focused policy is the key to balancing the budget and restoring fiscal health.
A major segment is devoted to Medicaid reform, with a focus on work requirements for able-bodied recipients. The hosts cite the Oregon Medicaid study, which found no significant health improvements from Medicaid coverage, and question the efficiency of the $600 billion spent annually on the program. They argue for accountability, work incentives, and tax reform, criticizing the 37% federal tax rate and the broader burden on American workers.
The hour’s most provocative discussion centers on affirmative action and racial identity in college admissions. Clay and Buck dissect the case of Zohran Mamdani, who falsely claimed to be African-American on his Columbia University application. Despite a solid SAT score of 2140, Mamdani was rejected, raising questions about racial preferences, merit-based admissions, and the “racial spoil system.” The hosts compare this case to those of Elizabeth Warren and Rachel Dolezal, calling for a race-blind admissions process and emphasizing the success of Nigerian-American and Asian-American communities as evidence against systemic racism.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everybody. Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off
right now. Appreciates you being with us. Just an update here.
We are following closely events in the Hill Country of
Texas or west of San Antonio, with these horrible floods
that I've taken now at least ninety lives I believe,
or close to ninety lives with the latest count.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
We are following us closer.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
We're going to talk to Congressmanship Roy this is his
district that got hit so badly by the flash floods,
and we'll talk to him about what's going on in
the rescue, search and rescue operations, and also look into
could this have been mitigated. I think prevented is unlikely,
but mitigated meaning less awful than it was under the circumstances.
(00:48):
We'll discuss that with him, and also maybe a little
bit of the people that are politicizing this. It's so
beneath contempt and so just so grotesque that I don't
know how much time we really should spend on it, Clay,
because anybody who says things like, well, this is a
maga area. I know there was a doctor who got fired,
(01:11):
I just yeah, it's people it's awful. I think in general,
when disaster happens, Okay, I'm talking about the disaster itself,
it is almost impossible to argue, Hey, this person is
responsible for this disaster. Right, I'm talking about natural disaster.
(01:31):
Where it is fair, I think to talk is when
the government doesn't respond, when the government doesn't respond rapidly
to take care of people, when FEMA does a poor job,
that's that's a reality. Right At some point that conversation
is real. I think responde hits flood hits, and you're like, oh,
this is the president's fault, or it's a senator's fault,
(01:52):
or it's a voter's fault. I mean the little girls
who were at that camp. They didn't vote in the
twenty twenty fourth. When girls at summer camp and if
kids die, and your thought is this is a political thing,
I want to respond to it immediately. You need to
look at your shore. There's something deeply, there's something you did,
(02:13):
something broken inside, no question. So hey, we're following this
close that We've updated you to the best of our
knowledge about what's going on right now, still search and
rescue efforts. We can also get to some more of
your calls on the back half of this hour if
you want to talk about things that were missed or
things that we need to know about, or you just
want to share your thoughts as a member of that
community we're taking. We have lines lit from people that
(02:34):
were effectively in the flood areas. Uh so we want
to hear from from you first and foremost on that.
I did want to because we've been off for a
few days, focus on some news stories that deal with
the economy and and what I think we can expect
here going forward. Another another moment of what we tell
you is going to happen generally happens on this show.
(02:56):
We said it about the Seawan Combs verdict, which is
very different than the big View a full bill situation.
But we said that, and we also said that, I mean,
I was basically ready as soon as the Center passed
the clay. I was like, yeah, it's basically a done deal.
And you correctly said, well, the House and then try, yeah,
I know, I know, but this is not really and
sure enough, yes, the process was. It went back to
(03:16):
the House, they didn't do anything. They passed the thing
as it was. Trump signed it on the big beautiful
Bill so it happened as we thought, and the objections
based on budgetary and spending issues, those did not actually
those did not materialize into anything that got really any
attention before the holiday. So Trump signed it, and here
(03:38):
we are. Now let's get into some of what happens
now on this, because I think this is I think
there's some important components of this, some aspects of this
that deserve us to drill in on a little bit.
First of all, you know Speaker Johnson saying that it's
going to be jet fuel for the economy. I think
we actually said exactly that here on the show, so
(03:59):
you know that that's can't disagree with that. I think
it's going to be incredibly powerful. The US is close
to a couple of trade deals that was being reported
on last night. Scott Best in the Treasury Secretary looking
at this clay. There is the tariff pause that Trump
(04:19):
put in place that ends next week. So the negotiating
period is coming to a terminus here, or at least
the negotiating period as set forth the last time around,
is coming to a point here. But the people that
have been saying that this is going to result in
disaster the whole time and it's all going to be
skyrocketing prices. They were wrong before, I think they're gonna
(04:40):
be wrong again. And I think we could get some
very big things, big things done here in terms of
trade in the days ahead. And I think Trump has
bought a lot of goodwill from people out there to
finish this negotiation because so far the econ he's been
doing really well, and the scary stuff about the trade
(05:03):
negotiations have not come to fruition at all. And I
think this is another example where expert opinion that in
some way, having tariffs put in place and negotiating these
trade deals, we're going to destroy the United States economy.
I mean, on Wednesday or Thursday, right before the July
(05:25):
fourth holiday, we were at an all time high in
the S and P five hundred stock market in general,
and we're still basically there now today. So look, is
it going to potentially come back a little bit, Yes,
But I think the doom and gloom the world is
going to collapse. Catastrophists have been proven wrong when it
(05:48):
comes to tariff negotiations and what the impact is going
to be going forward.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I just think they're wrong.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
And that doesn't mean that there may not be challenges
ahead A can somewhat yes. Look to me, we talked
a lot about this on Wednesday or sorry, Tuesday. To me,
the pivot now that the big beautiful bill has passed
is growth, growth.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Growth.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
The way that we are going to get our financial
house in order now is we have to get the
economy moving at higher than three percent level. Growth is
the best thing that can happen. Economic growth to start
to bring in way more revenue to start to balance
(06:37):
the budget. That's what's going to have to happen. And
the bill was imperfect, as all bills are. We talked
about this. A lot of people just don't want to
address the reality of government spending and debts. There isn't
the political will to address it. Part of me, Buck,
I think I said this on the show, but part
of me feels like politicians are just going to be
(06:58):
fine with having to cut benefits because the math doesn't
add up, and they're just going to say, hey, the
math is what it is and avoid having to make
any decisions in advance, and then in twenty thirty three
or whatever the year is, they're just going to be
They're going to look at it and say, hey, everybody
gets seventy percent of what was promised because the money
(07:19):
isn't there, and we're sorry, but that's the reality, and
you have to deal with it because otherwise it would
require having real conversations about it, and it doesn't feel
like anybody wants to have a real conversation. We're just
kind of living in this magical era where what the
math shows us is going to happen down the line.
(07:40):
We're not going to acknowledge it until basically we're there.
You know, there are Democrats who are saying this is
going to be what results in disaster in the midterms
for Republicans. First of all, if Trump hadn't if this
hadn't gotten pasted, and this had gotten if this had
fallen apart on the on the shoals, if this had
come apart on the shoals of cong ris in fighting,
(08:02):
that would be far worse for the Republicans because you'd ask,
what exactly are they doing if they can't do this,
and because they have the votes, as we saw, Republicans
have the votes, they got it through. Trump's very excited
about it. I would note the attacks on it are
along the lines of the cuts to Medicaid. Uh, and
it's not really cuts, as Scott Beston has pointed out, it's.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
A decrease in the increase over it.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
He talked about this, Yeah, they they've allowed the idea
of a cut is just slowing growth. So it's like, hey,
you're fat, but instead of putting on ten pounds of
extra weight this year, you put on six. Nobody would say, boy,
that's a real cut. You're still getting fatter. You're just
getting fat or slower. Scott Bessant reminded Dana batt, Oh,
(08:46):
we should do the CNN. Megan Kelly did a breakdown
of the CNNMSNBC ratings, and it's it's just crazy over there.
No one's watching these channels anymore that we know. We
grew up with CNN as.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
This brand, global news and all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
And he's completely falling apart. But anyway, he went on.
Scott Bessent was talking to Dana bash about the Medicaid
work requirements cut three and listen to him explain reality
a bit.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
I think to have them register twice a year for
these benefits, that is not a burden.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
My impression of the Republican Party is that historically wanted
to cut through the red tape and not create more
red tape.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Well, no, no, no, But we've also wanted to put in
work requirements, which somehow was very popular under Bill Clinton,
was popular under President Obama, and this Democratic Party blew
out the deficit in twenty twenty, and you know they
never want to bring it back. But work requirements even
pull well with the median Democratic voter. Maybe not the
(09:51):
fringe work requirements play. You have to actually do something
if you're an able body. We're not talking about you know,
mom with kids, We're not talking about disabled people. You
have to be willing to check in and say, hey,
I'm trying to do something productive for society, and therefore
please continue to give me healthcare welfare, which is what
(10:12):
Medicaid is.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
It only requires twenty hours for able body, mostly men,
and twenty hours of work is considered to be enough,
and some of that can be charity work. So I mean,
we're talking legitimately about hey, just do something. There's a
huge percentage and I hope that some of the deportations
(10:33):
are going to impact this in a positive way. There's
a huge percentage of men that just don't work. And
I'm not talking about sixty five year old men. I'm
talking about twenty five, thirty five, forty five men who
are in the prime earning years of what should be
their work life and just don't work, just don't do anything.
And why should they get Why should we who are
(10:56):
out there working give them benefits?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I got fired up over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
You know, the big beautiful bill has passed, but it
preserves thirty seven percent tax rates. Right, that's the highest
level tax rate. Think about that for a minute. Well,
we've just accepted as reality. That means that if you
are out there paying thirty seven percent tax and I am,
that means I work Monday Tuesday every week just for
(11:21):
the government. Presume that I don't work seven days, which
I basically do, but five days a week Monday to Friday.
If you're paying thirty seven percent, this doesn't even count
state taxes, property taxes, all those other things, just the
federal government every day of the week. I work Monday
and Tuesday for the federal government.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
That's kind of.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Crazy that we just accept thirty seven percent tax rates.
And a lot of you out there, if you live
in California, or you live in New York or you
live in Illinois, you're actually paying over half every work week.
Half of the time. You basically are an employee of
the u United States government or your local tax authority.
(12:03):
It's crazy that we have just accepted this as reality,
but that's where we are. Medicaid here, according to GROC
which I do find a very useful and fun tool
on the fly to use, Medicaid spending in twenty twenty
four was a little over six hundred billion dollars. Six
hundred billion dollars. And remember that's that's not including Medicare,
(12:28):
which is for people sixty five and up. That is
the amount of money that the country is spending on
for people who, for one reason or another are unable
to get insurance or health care coverage themselves. That is
a very large sum of money that is going toward this.
I mean, it's what it's approaching like the Pentagon budget
(12:50):
that we spend on Medicaid.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
What do you think.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
That actually the big problem we have. I think there
are two major broken parts of America or right now.
One is the tax code completely broken. Two is healthcare.
It's completely broken. Regardless of what your politics are. That's
six hundred billion dollars. You just said, how much of
that do you think actually benefits health? In other words,
(13:14):
if it weren't spent, that there would be a precipitous
decline in overall health.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
There.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
There was a big study the Oregon Study years ago,
a study out of Oregon that showed that the actual
health outcomes for people with Medicaid versus people who are
similar socioeconomic status who do not have access to Medicaid,
they they could find no difference. Remember emergency emergency services. Anybody,
(13:42):
you walk in the emergency room, you get treated, although
these days you might wait twelve hours in a hallway
because there's a ton of illegals who are going for
frontline care and everything. But put that aside for a moment,
emergency room care, and that's you know, there's a moral
obligation that society has accepted where if you need medical treatment,
you get treated. Okay, fine, But Medicaid is more the
routine that going in for this checkup or that or whatever.
(14:05):
How much of that is waste and how much of
that isn't even benefiting the patients who are going in
for I think any one really knows. If you ask me,
I think we could cut half of all medical treatments
in America, all of them half, and I think we
would see no impact in quality of life or length
of life. Right In other words, we're just wasting money
(14:28):
so much every single day and getting not great outcomes.
And if you question that, just look at the average lifespan.
We spend way more money in America on healthcare than
any other country.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
We don't live the longest. So this is the Oregon experiment.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
This is published in a really radical right wing thing
called the New England Journal of Medicine. Randomized controlled study
Medicaid coverage generated no significant improvements in physical health outcomes
in the first two years that was a decade ago.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
No, they can't even say that it makes it healthier
at all in any way. I mean, I think, just
based on data, look at life spans and correspond them
with money spent there is we are not getting our
money's worth if you compare how long we live to
other countries that spend a fraction on healthcare of what
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the racial spoils, system, everybody let's talk about this for
(18:57):
a little, bit shall. We racial spoils. System that's actually
how it was referred to in A Supreme court. DECISION
i want to, say By elido at one, point and
as you, know you're not allowed to for college admissions
discriminate on the basis of race. Anymore schools are still
doing it left and. Right The trump administration is going
to have to sue a lot of, them and other
people are going to have to bring a lot of.
Lawsuits they're going to have to feel the financial pain
(19:20):
of their, racism because that's what it is. Now because
the same system that said you're allowed to take people
based on their skin color over other, people or based
on their, ethnicity you, know indigenous, persons, background whatever it
is for you, Know Native, americans that same system now, says,
(19:41):
no that's actually. Wrong you shouldn't do, that and you're
no longer able to do. That and this brings me
To zoran And clay still. By his middle name Is
kwame Yep Zorn quame Mam Dami mamdani applied in two
thousand and nine To. Colombia New York times wrote about,
This there's a lot going on here, everyone and he
(20:03):
claimed that he Was African. American, now just so we
get the, facts let me just get the facts out
black the clip the clip the box that he checked
Is African american or?
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Black?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Right, well, well if he's he's hanging his hat so to,
SPEAK i mean he's he's you, know claiming that The
African american part of it is like because he was
Qualified africa because he was born In. Africa so we're
gonn talk about this in a, second, Right, so, uh
he says He's African american and slash.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Black now we know that's that's he's clearly not. Black.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Uh and but this goes to a few. Things first of,
all this guy is AND i don't think he didn't get, in,
right he did not get admitted To. Columbia now there's
only two there's only really one. WAY i think that
that's possible based on because Now Chris, rufo you don't
Want rufo on on your on your. Tail you don't
want him coming after. You he has his Whole columbia.
(20:57):
File have you seen? This, no he has this Whole
columbia admissions. File Somehow Chris rufo got. This and he
has HIS sat, scores he has. Everything Chris rufo has
all this. Stuff so here's here's what we. Have he
got a twenty one forty out of twenty four. HUNDRED
i wish it was out of the sixteen hundred BECAUSE.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
I don't know what twenty one to forty.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
REALLY i, MEAN i guess that's like a seven hundred,
Equivalent so maybe it's like a fourteen, hundred which is
not a bad, score it's a GOOD sat. Score but For,
colombia if you're white Or, asian that's probably not going
to cut, it not even. Close so this guy he,
Applied he. Applied the point here is everyone he. Did
(21:41):
he pulled In Elizabeth. Warren all, right let's just let's
just get right down to This Clay KUAM i mean
a month, Sorry Zoran Kwame momdami Figured i'll pretend to
be black to get for the purposes of, admission to
get Into Columbia. University it didn't. WORK i think they
figured it. Out that's WHAT i was gonna say. BEFORE
i think they knew this guy wasn't really.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Black.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Uh and he's now saying because he was born In,
Africa well under that, Standard elon musk any White South,
african anyone born In egypt Or North, AFRICA i might,
add if You're, algerian there are Many algerians players are
as light skinned as you AND i. Are, okay there's
a whole ethnic berber B r b E r there a.
(22:27):
Lot some of them have blue eyes and light hair
and light. Skin live In North africa and been indigenous
To North africa for like a thousand years or.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Something all, right they've been there a long.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Time if you applied as A North, african as An
African american, slash, black people would would flip.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Out if you Were.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Egyptian cairo is a huge, city millions of mons of,
people they would flip. Out mamdani tried to pull the
card of, Oh I'm Kwame, mamdani the black guy applying To.
Columbia let me. In the guy's a. Fraud he played
The Elizabeth warren and now we know. Yes AND i
think also to build on the analogy MADE i, Mean
(23:07):
charlie's tarone is From South, Africa Elon musk is From South.
Africa If Elon musk had gotten government contracts because he
had Marked African american on applications for the government contract he,
Said i'm a black small business, owner give me loan,
preference people would lose their. Minds AND i think what
(23:29):
this really kind of brings up Is the reason he
did this is because his test scores were not. Incredible
according to this, article eighty ninth. Percentile it's good to
be top ten percent most. Things that's not good enough
to be a white or An asian kid and get Into.
Colombia so he was trying to pretend that he had
(23:54):
black background because the standard to be.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Admitted if you are.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Black that would be good enough to get. In and
here is this racial spoil system in, general it just
has to. Vanish it really does have to to once
and for, all give up the, ghost so to. Speak
if you want to go to these elite schools and
they want to only take kids who are, amazing right
(24:19):
like getting over fifteen, hundred sixteen hundred's on THE, sat thirty,
four thirty, five thirty six on THE, act GREAT ap,
scores good, GPAs all those. Things that's, fine but they
should do it on a race blind. Level and if
they really want to focus on, diversity the only diversity
that matters is diversity of, thought because otherwise you have
(24:42):
a bunch of people who look different but think the exact,
same which is unfortunately what has become the case in
so many elite institutions out. There SO i think this
should be. Disqualifying and you can, say, okay well he
was only eighteen years. OLD i, mean look at the
standard that they put in place For Rachel. Doleozol Rachel,
(25:02):
dolesol for those of you who don't, remember was a
white woman who was pretending to be black THAT i
believe ran The Spokane WASHINGTON naacp. Chapter they found out
that she was actually just a white woman who was
somewhat dark skinned and was pretending to be, black and
she was ostracized from popular, society from, politics from all that.
(25:27):
World this guy is clearly trying to trade on the
racial spoil. System the fact that his middle name Is.
QUAME i guarantee you he got HIS sat scores and
he looked at it and he, said there's no, way
as An asian or white kid THAT i would get.
In but my middle name Is. Quame MAYBE i can
(25:48):
confuse people by Clicking African american or. Black here's the other, Thing,
buck AND i think this is. Important he wasn't Actually African.
American he did not become An american citizen in till twenty.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Eighteen so even if you're.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Going to give him, though, well he was born In,
Africa so it's fine for him to Click African. American
we know what the intent of the racial box there.
Was he wasn't Even African, american so he actually. Lied
now here's a question for you THAT i THINK i
hope people are going to look. Into was he admitted
as a minority to the school that he ultimately went,
(26:23):
To Boden, boden WHICH i couldn't even pronounced fourteen hundred At,
boden he'd get.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
In that's that's that's not so you think he got in.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
REGARDLESS i, MEAN i went to A nescac, school So
boden's technically a, competitor and you, Know boden's not that
hard to get. Into oh, snap The boden alumni are
going to flip out at The amherst. Guy but, sorry,
no it's a very good. School but he. Was that's the, Thing,
Clay boden is the school you know that this guy
Would that's that's the school that he would get into
(26:52):
for on his own. Merit he tried to get Into
columbia pulling The I'm Kwame Mamdani mandani, card, right that's
the Now here's where he may have gotten caught his
dad was actually a faculty, member so the admission staff
may have looked into, this AND i wonder if they
rejected him because they thought that he was lying about usually.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Background it actually blew up on. Him and this is
a huge.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Deal this is a huge deal BECAUSE i know this
from friends of mine who work at. UNIVERSITIES i have
a friend who works At Columbia, university for, example don't
want to name, them don't want to get fired for
being friends with. Me but his children can go To
columbia for, free which when you think about that, value
and then on top of, that the unspoken part of
the deal is if your child is even vaguely, child you,
(27:38):
know young adult when they're going to, college if your
kid is vaguely, qualified they are much more likely to
be accepted and they go for. Free a Huge These
Ivy league schools a Huge this is true of all THE,
ivs a lot of schools in, general but The ivy's
for sure a huge benefit To. NOW i think it
might only be for like tenured. Professors there's probably some you.
KNOW i don't know if you're the guy who you,
(28:01):
know like sweeping the floors of the, auditorium but MAYBE
i actually don't. Know i'm getting beyond my brief on.
That but there's this other STORY i just want to
remind everybody of from twenty. FIFTEEN i interviewed this, guy you,
Know Mindy, kaling the actress slash comedian from The. Office,
yes her, brother her. Brother, YEAH i wondered if he
(28:22):
tell this story for people who THE dj Chokol ingham
was his.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Name he Was.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Indian Mindy kaling is his. Sister so she's a famous, actress,
comedian she's from the. Office she's The South asian descent
woman in the. Office so you've the one who's like
anyway you know she is if you've seen the. Office
He clay didn't get Into uh he had very mediocre,
scores didn't get into the medical school programs he wanted,
(28:49):
to so he, reapplied shaved his, HEAD i, believe, yes
shaved his, head darkened his uh you, know tried to
like change the photos so he would look darker in the.
Photo he tried to appear more black and changed his
name To Jojo and guess, what same, score same, person
(29:11):
all of a sudden getting into top medical programs across the,
country and the left. Went he wrote a book about. It,
Right was it a book or a movie he made about?
This it was a website ALMOST i, Mean i'm just
telling you what it's. Called almost black dot com was
the website that he. Launched you know what it goes
to is it points out the absurdity he got looked
(29:34):
at as An indian guy and didn't get in. Anywhere
because CAN i tell you? Something this is, Yeah oh, sorry,
YEAH i just this is the amazing. Thing this IS,
cnn which is now like about to be on the
trash heap and turned into a channel where they sell
Like sawrowsky crystals or something to, You clay THE cnn
piece on, this there's little evidence to suggest that his
posturing as a black applicant helped him get into the following.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Schools there's nothing but ev he, applied didn't get it,
anywhere says he's, black changes his appearance and gets into
a bunch of, schools And CNN's, like there's no evidence
that being black helped.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Him this was a delusion that we were all supposed
to live.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
In not only, THAT i mean the fact that the
if you care about minority, advancement.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
All of These indian.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Kids are so successful In america that they're actually being
penalized for Being, indian and same thing is true Of Chinese.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
JAPANESE i, mean we've talked about this, BEFORE i think
on the. Program but do.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
You know the highest earning race and sex group In,
america It's asian. Men asian men on average make more
money than anyone In. America, Okay so you have all
these young first and second generation immigrants that want to be,
doctors and they're being used their race against them because
there's too many of them doing so. Great this guy
(30:58):
pretends to be black can suddenly get in. Everywhere Nigerian
american immigrants out earn Native american you, know native Born.
AMERICAN i should, say, yeah, households, yes SO i mean
you got to but substantially they're actually a high earning
is a perfect distillation of the actual lack of. Racism
(31:19):
that you could come here From nigeria and immediately become
wealthier than the average person who's been born. Here the
fact that people From nigeria are desperate to get, here
or the fact that people from any part Of africa
Or asia Or Latin america destroys the racism argument on its.
Face why would you want to come to a profoundly racist.
(31:41):
Country BUT i actually give credit to. THAT i remember
that story Because Mindy kayaling is actually a super, leftist
at least publicly in the way that she is.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Embraced, yeah of, Course.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Claid it's also the reason they got upset about this
is because it exposed the absurdity of the whole situation
as well as the truth of. It and the truth
of the affirmative action regime in this country has been
that they've been changing standards for, people primarily people who are,
Black Native american Or, hispanic primarily changing it so that
they give them a couple of hundred points equivalent on
THE sat and lying about. It and they've been doing
(32:15):
this for about forty, years and people are sick of
pretending that this isn't what's been going. On our generation
is the one that saw, it and it's all a
big lie and we're tired of.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
It.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Yeah and also let's also point out doctors theoretically the
people that you would want to be the smartest and
the best at taking. Care we're not talking about somebody
getting a graduate degree in ethics studies or.
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you get your. Podcasts welcome back In Clay Travis Buck Sexton.
Show we're gonna be joined By Congressman Ship roy at
the top of the next. Hour hearing about ten, minutes
he represents the area Of texas that was so horribly
(34:50):
flooded over the, weekend over ninety lost lives so.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Far we'll update you on the absolute.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Latest THERE i was, reading, continuing we're talking about Mom
donnie lying about being black And African. American he, scored
according To Chris rufo in the eighty ninth percent. Aisle
they've changed the way that they handle scoring On SAT's.
Acts eighty ninth percentile generally pretty, good but buck the
(35:18):
eighty ninth percentile, score which is around to twelve, eighty
would have been nowhere near good enough for An asian
kid to be able to get into a top, school
which is why he's pretending to Be African. AMERICAN i
did The, YEAH i, Mean i'm glad you pointed this.
OUT i did the back of the envelope math on,
that AND i, assumed, okay well divide. It it's like
a seven, hundred seven hundred times. Too, no, no if
(35:39):
it's more like a twelve. Eighty his chance of getting
in as a non minority To columbia basically, zero no.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
CHANCE i mean not even with even with his dad
as a. Professor.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Professor, yeah, yeah it's just they would have said you're
just not, qualified like you won't be able to handle
the you, know the low so kind of rough For, Boden,
BODEN i thought you were taking a fourteen hundred Sorry,
boden twelve. Eighty, no let me say this too for
people out there that might BE i do think this
is a story because if he marked Black African american
On colombia's, APPLICATION i wonder if he might have gotten
(36:13):
a minority scholarship at a place Like boden or somewhere
else that he ended up. Applying because his middle name
Is quame and he's saying He's African american or, BLACK
i think it's reasonable to assume that he might be mixed. Race,
well they would give HIM i would probably be financial.
AID i don't think That. Boden those small ness packs
(36:33):
Like emerst didn't have, Scholarships but some people go for
free based on the financial aid they.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Get so he might have.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Got but he has wealthy, parents so did he get you,
know he has well off.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Parents did he get a lot of financial?
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Aid clay to your, point because he pretended to be,
black possible real question
Welcome everybody. Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off
right now. Appreciates you being with us. Just an update here.
We are following closely events in the Hill Country of
Texas or west of San Antonio, with these horrible floods
that I've taken now at least ninety lives I believe,
or close to ninety lives with the latest count.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
We are following us closer.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
We're going to talk to Congressmanship Roy this is his
district that got hit so badly by the flash floods,
and we'll talk to him about what's going on in
the rescue, search and rescue operations, and also look into
could this have been mitigated. I think prevented is unlikely,
but mitigated meaning less awful than it was under the circumstances.
(00:48):
We'll discuss that with him, and also maybe a little
bit of the people that are politicizing this. It's so
beneath contempt and so just so grotesque that I don't
know how much time we really should spend on it, Clay,
because anybody who says things like, well, this is a
maga area. I know there was a doctor who got fired,
(01:11):
I just yeah, it's people it's awful. I think in general,
when disaster happens, Okay, I'm talking about the disaster itself,
it is almost impossible to argue, Hey, this person is
responsible for this disaster. Right, I'm talking about natural disaster.
(01:31):
Where it is fair, I think to talk is when
the government doesn't respond, when the government doesn't respond rapidly
to take care of people, when FEMA does a poor job,
that's that's a reality. Right At some point that conversation
is real. I think responde hits flood hits, and you're like, oh,
this is the president's fault, or it's a senator's fault,
(01:52):
or it's a voter's fault. I mean the little girls
who were at that camp. They didn't vote in the
twenty twenty fourth. When girls at summer camp and if
kids die, and your thought is this is a political thing,
I want to respond to it immediately. You need to
look at your shore. There's something deeply, there's something you did,
(02:13):
something broken inside, no question. So hey, we're following this
close that We've updated you to the best of our
knowledge about what's going on right now, still search and
rescue efforts. We can also get to some more of
your calls on the back half of this hour if
you want to talk about things that were missed or
things that we need to know about, or you just
want to share your thoughts as a member of that
community we're taking. We have lines lit from people that
(02:34):
were effectively in the flood areas. Uh so we want
to hear from from you first and foremost on that.
I did want to because we've been off for a
few days, focus on some news stories that deal with
the economy and and what I think we can expect
here going forward. Another another moment of what we tell
you is going to happen generally happens on this show.
(02:56):
We said it about the Seawan Combs verdict, which is
very different than the big View a full bill situation.
But we said that, and we also said that, I mean,
I was basically ready as soon as the Center passed
the clay. I was like, yeah, it's basically a done deal.
And you correctly said, well, the House and then try, yeah,
I know, I know, but this is not really and
sure enough, yes, the process was. It went back to
(03:16):
the House, they didn't do anything. They passed the thing
as it was. Trump signed it on the big beautiful
Bill so it happened as we thought, and the objections
based on budgetary and spending issues, those did not actually
those did not materialize into anything that got really any
attention before the holiday. So Trump signed it, and here
(03:38):
we are. Now let's get into some of what happens
now on this, because I think this is I think
there's some important components of this, some aspects of this
that deserve us to drill in on a little bit.
First of all, you know Speaker Johnson saying that it's
going to be jet fuel for the economy. I think
we actually said exactly that here on the show, so
(03:59):
you know that that's can't disagree with that. I think
it's going to be incredibly powerful. The US is close
to a couple of trade deals that was being reported
on last night. Scott Best in the Treasury Secretary looking
at this clay. There is the tariff pause that Trump
(04:19):
put in place that ends next week. So the negotiating
period is coming to a terminus here, or at least
the negotiating period as set forth the last time around,
is coming to a point here. But the people that
have been saying that this is going to result in
disaster the whole time and it's all going to be
skyrocketing prices. They were wrong before, I think they're gonna
(04:40):
be wrong again. And I think we could get some
very big things, big things done here in terms of
trade in the days ahead. And I think Trump has
bought a lot of goodwill from people out there to
finish this negotiation because so far the econ he's been
doing really well, and the scary stuff about the trade
(05:03):
negotiations have not come to fruition at all. And I
think this is another example where expert opinion that in
some way, having tariffs put in place and negotiating these
trade deals, we're going to destroy the United States economy.
I mean, on Wednesday or Thursday, right before the July
(05:25):
fourth holiday, we were at an all time high in
the S and P five hundred stock market in general,
and we're still basically there now today. So look, is
it going to potentially come back a little bit, Yes,
But I think the doom and gloom the world is
going to collapse. Catastrophists have been proven wrong when it
(05:48):
comes to tariff negotiations and what the impact is going
to be going forward.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I just think they're wrong.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
And that doesn't mean that there may not be challenges
ahead A can somewhat yes. Look to me, we talked
a lot about this on Wednesday or sorry, Tuesday. To me,
the pivot now that the big beautiful bill has passed
is growth, growth.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Growth.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
The way that we are going to get our financial
house in order now is we have to get the
economy moving at higher than three percent level. Growth is
the best thing that can happen. Economic growth to start
to bring in way more revenue to start to balance
(06:37):
the budget. That's what's going to have to happen. And
the bill was imperfect, as all bills are. We talked
about this. A lot of people just don't want to
address the reality of government spending and debts. There isn't
the political will to address it. Part of me, Buck,
I think I said this on the show, but part
of me feels like politicians are just going to be
(06:58):
fine with having to cut benefits because the math doesn't
add up, and they're just going to say, hey, the
math is what it is and avoid having to make
any decisions in advance, and then in twenty thirty three
or whatever the year is, they're just going to be
They're going to look at it and say, hey, everybody
gets seventy percent of what was promised because the money
(07:19):
isn't there, and we're sorry, but that's the reality, and
you have to deal with it because otherwise it would
require having real conversations about it, and it doesn't feel
like anybody wants to have a real conversation. We're just
kind of living in this magical era where what the
math shows us is going to happen down the line.
(07:40):
We're not going to acknowledge it until basically we're there.
You know, there are Democrats who are saying this is
going to be what results in disaster in the midterms
for Republicans. First of all, if Trump hadn't if this
hadn't gotten pasted, and this had gotten if this had
fallen apart on the on the shoals, if this had
come apart on the shoals of cong ris in fighting,
(08:02):
that would be far worse for the Republicans because you'd ask,
what exactly are they doing if they can't do this,
and because they have the votes, as we saw, Republicans
have the votes, they got it through. Trump's very excited
about it. I would note the attacks on it are
along the lines of the cuts to Medicaid. Uh, and
it's not really cuts, as Scott Beston has pointed out, it's.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
A decrease in the increase over it.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
He talked about this, Yeah, they they've allowed the idea
of a cut is just slowing growth. So it's like, hey,
you're fat, but instead of putting on ten pounds of
extra weight this year, you put on six. Nobody would say, boy,
that's a real cut. You're still getting fatter. You're just
getting fat or slower. Scott Bessant reminded Dana batt, Oh,
(08:46):
we should do the CNN. Megan Kelly did a breakdown
of the CNNMSNBC ratings, and it's it's just crazy over there.
No one's watching these channels anymore that we know. We
grew up with CNN as.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
This brand, global news and all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
And he's completely falling apart. But anyway, he went on.
Scott Bessent was talking to Dana bash about the Medicaid
work requirements cut three and listen to him explain reality
a bit.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
I think to have them register twice a year for
these benefits, that is not a burden.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
My impression of the Republican Party is that historically wanted
to cut through the red tape and not create more
red tape.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Well, no, no, no, But we've also wanted to put in
work requirements, which somehow was very popular under Bill Clinton,
was popular under President Obama, and this Democratic Party blew
out the deficit in twenty twenty, and you know they
never want to bring it back. But work requirements even
pull well with the median Democratic voter. Maybe not the
(09:51):
fringe work requirements play. You have to actually do something
if you're an able body. We're not talking about you know,
mom with kids, We're not talking about disabled people. You
have to be willing to check in and say, hey,
I'm trying to do something productive for society, and therefore
please continue to give me healthcare welfare, which is what
(10:12):
Medicaid is.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
It only requires twenty hours for able body, mostly men,
and twenty hours of work is considered to be enough,
and some of that can be charity work. So I mean,
we're talking legitimately about hey, just do something. There's a
huge percentage and I hope that some of the deportations
(10:33):
are going to impact this in a positive way. There's
a huge percentage of men that just don't work. And
I'm not talking about sixty five year old men. I'm
talking about twenty five, thirty five, forty five men who
are in the prime earning years of what should be
their work life and just don't work, just don't do anything.
And why should they get Why should we who are
(10:56):
out there working give them benefits?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I got fired up over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
You know, the big beautiful bill has passed, but it
preserves thirty seven percent tax rates. Right, that's the highest
level tax rate. Think about that for a minute. Well,
we've just accepted as reality. That means that if you
are out there paying thirty seven percent tax and I am,
that means I work Monday Tuesday every week just for
(11:21):
the government. Presume that I don't work seven days, which
I basically do, but five days a week Monday to Friday.
If you're paying thirty seven percent, this doesn't even count
state taxes, property taxes, all those other things, just the
federal government every day of the week. I work Monday
and Tuesday for the federal government.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
That's kind of.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Crazy that we just accept thirty seven percent tax rates.
And a lot of you out there, if you live
in California, or you live in New York or you
live in Illinois, you're actually paying over half every work week.
Half of the time. You basically are an employee of
the u United States government or your local tax authority.
(12:03):
It's crazy that we have just accepted this as reality,
but that's where we are. Medicaid here, according to GROC
which I do find a very useful and fun tool
on the fly to use, Medicaid spending in twenty twenty
four was a little over six hundred billion dollars. Six
hundred billion dollars. And remember that's that's not including Medicare,
(12:28):
which is for people sixty five and up. That is
the amount of money that the country is spending on
for people who, for one reason or another are unable
to get insurance or health care coverage themselves. That is
a very large sum of money that is going toward this.
I mean, it's what it's approaching like the Pentagon budget
(12:50):
that we spend on Medicaid.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
What do you think.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
That actually the big problem we have. I think there
are two major broken parts of America or right now.
One is the tax code completely broken. Two is healthcare.
It's completely broken. Regardless of what your politics are. That's
six hundred billion dollars. You just said, how much of
that do you think actually benefits health? In other words,
(13:14):
if it weren't spent, that there would be a precipitous
decline in overall health.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
There.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
There was a big study the Oregon Study years ago,
a study out of Oregon that showed that the actual
health outcomes for people with Medicaid versus people who are
similar socioeconomic status who do not have access to Medicaid,
they they could find no difference. Remember emergency emergency services. Anybody,
(13:42):
you walk in the emergency room, you get treated, although
these days you might wait twelve hours in a hallway
because there's a ton of illegals who are going for
frontline care and everything. But put that aside for a moment,
emergency room care, and that's you know, there's a moral
obligation that society has accepted where if you need medical treatment,
you get treated. Okay, fine, But Medicaid is more the
routine that going in for this checkup or that or whatever.
(14:05):
How much of that is waste and how much of
that isn't even benefiting the patients who are going in
for I think any one really knows. If you ask me,
I think we could cut half of all medical treatments
in America, all of them half, and I think we
would see no impact in quality of life or length
of life. Right In other words, we're just wasting money
(14:28):
so much every single day and getting not great outcomes.
And if you question that, just look at the average lifespan.
We spend way more money in America on healthcare than
any other country.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
We don't live the longest. So this is the Oregon experiment.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
This is published in a really radical right wing thing
called the New England Journal of Medicine. Randomized controlled study
Medicaid coverage generated no significant improvements in physical health outcomes
in the first two years that was a decade ago.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
No, they can't even say that it makes it healthier
at all in any way. I mean, I think, just
based on data, look at life spans and correspond them
with money spent there is we are not getting our
money's worth if you compare how long we live to
other countries that spend a fraction on healthcare of what
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show I flew
back yesterday Buck. I was just telling people off air
Ali and the team awesome time down on the Gulf
of America.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Met a lot of Clay and Buck.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Listeners outkickreaders like that is definitely our wheel house down
down on thirty eight down on the Gulf of America
the Florida Panhandle. But I was flying back and on
Southwest Airlines and one of the flight attendants came over
and she said, you know, basically, you look like Clay Travis,
(17:18):
but he's a lot taller than you. And I really
had no idea how to respond. And part of me
was like, hey, I should be like, yeah, you know
Clay Travis, he's like six', five super.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Ripped he's, not you, know fat and.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Short by the, Way i'm six feet BUT i was just, like,
WELL i think she was, like maybe it's just because
you're sitting. DOWN i got a picture taken with her
AS i was. Leaving but have you ever had somebody
say you look like someone except you're not as good
as they might otherwise have. BEEN i had no idea
how to. Respond i'm, like, well you, know this is,
(17:51):
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the racial spoils, system, everybody let's talk about this for
(18:57):
a little, bit shall. We racial spoils. System that's actually
how it was referred to in A Supreme court. DECISION
i want to, say By elido at one, point and
as you, know you're not allowed to for college admissions
discriminate on the basis of race. Anymore schools are still
doing it left and. Right The trump administration is going
to have to sue a lot of, them and other
people are going to have to bring a lot of.
Lawsuits they're going to have to feel the financial pain
(19:20):
of their, racism because that's what it is. Now because
the same system that said you're allowed to take people
based on their skin color over other, people or based
on their, ethnicity you, know indigenous, persons, background whatever it
is for you, Know Native, americans that same system now, says,
(19:41):
no that's actually. Wrong you shouldn't do, that and you're
no longer able to do. That and this brings me
To zoran And clay still. By his middle name Is
kwame Yep Zorn quame Mam Dami mamdani applied in two
thousand and nine To. Colombia New York times wrote about,
This there's a lot going on here, everyone and he
(20:03):
claimed that he Was African. American, now just so we
get the, facts let me just get the facts out
black the clip the clip the box that he checked
Is African american or?
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Black?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Right, well, well if he's he's hanging his hat so to,
SPEAK i mean he's he's you, know claiming that The
African american part of it is like because he was
Qualified africa because he was born In. Africa so we're
gonn talk about this in a, second, Right, so, uh
he says He's African american and slash.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Black now we know that's that's he's clearly not. Black.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Uh and but this goes to a few. Things first of,
all this guy is AND i don't think he didn't get, in,
right he did not get admitted To. Columbia now there's
only two there's only really one. WAY i think that
that's possible based on because Now Chris, rufo you don't
Want rufo on on your on your. Tail you don't
want him coming after. You he has his Whole columbia.
(20:57):
File have you seen? This, no he has this Whole
columbia admissions. File Somehow Chris rufo got. This and he
has HIS sat, scores he has. Everything Chris rufo has
all this. Stuff so here's here's what we. Have he
got a twenty one forty out of twenty four. HUNDRED
i wish it was out of the sixteen hundred BECAUSE.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
I don't know what twenty one to forty.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
REALLY i, MEAN i guess that's like a seven hundred,
Equivalent so maybe it's like a fourteen, hundred which is
not a bad, score it's a GOOD sat. Score but For,
colombia if you're white Or, asian that's probably not going
to cut, it not even. Close so this guy he,
Applied he. Applied the point here is everyone he. Did
(21:41):
he pulled In Elizabeth. Warren all, right let's just let's
just get right down to This Clay KUAM i mean
a month, Sorry Zoran Kwame momdami Figured i'll pretend to
be black to get for the purposes of, admission to
get Into Columbia. University it didn't. WORK i think they
figured it. Out that's WHAT i was gonna say. BEFORE
i think they knew this guy wasn't really.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Black.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Uh and he's now saying because he was born In,
Africa well under that, Standard elon musk any White South,
african anyone born In egypt Or North, AFRICA i might,
add if You're, algerian there are Many algerians players are
as light skinned as you AND i. Are, okay there's
a whole ethnic berber B r b E r there a.
(22:27):
Lot some of them have blue eyes and light hair
and light. Skin live In North africa and been indigenous
To North africa for like a thousand years or.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Something all, right they've been there a long.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Time if you applied as A North, african as An
African american, slash, black people would would flip.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Out if you Were.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Egyptian cairo is a huge, city millions of mons of,
people they would flip. Out mamdani tried to pull the
card of, Oh I'm Kwame, mamdani the black guy applying To.
Columbia let me. In the guy's a. Fraud he played
The Elizabeth warren and now we know. Yes AND i
think also to build on the analogy MADE i, Mean
(23:07):
charlie's tarone is From South, Africa Elon musk is From South.
Africa If Elon musk had gotten government contracts because he
had Marked African american on applications for the government contract he,
Said i'm a black small business, owner give me loan,
preference people would lose their. Minds AND i think what
(23:29):
this really kind of brings up Is the reason he
did this is because his test scores were not. Incredible
according to this, article eighty ninth. Percentile it's good to
be top ten percent most. Things that's not good enough
to be a white or An asian kid and get Into.
Colombia so he was trying to pretend that he had
(23:54):
black background because the standard to be.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Admitted if you are.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Black that would be good enough to get. In and
here is this racial spoil system in, general it just
has to. Vanish it really does have to to once
and for, all give up the, ghost so to. Speak
if you want to go to these elite schools and
they want to only take kids who are, amazing right
(24:19):
like getting over fifteen, hundred sixteen hundred's on THE, sat thirty,
four thirty, five thirty six on THE, act GREAT ap,
scores good, GPAs all those. Things that's, fine but they
should do it on a race blind. Level and if
they really want to focus on, diversity the only diversity
that matters is diversity of, thought because otherwise you have
(24:42):
a bunch of people who look different but think the exact,
same which is unfortunately what has become the case in
so many elite institutions out. There SO i think this
should be. Disqualifying and you can, say, okay well he
was only eighteen years. OLD i, mean look at the
standard that they put in place For Rachel. Doleozol Rachel,
(25:02):
dolesol for those of you who don't, remember was a
white woman who was pretending to be black THAT i
believe ran The Spokane WASHINGTON naacp. Chapter they found out
that she was actually just a white woman who was
somewhat dark skinned and was pretending to be, black and
she was ostracized from popular, society from, politics from all that.
(25:27):
World this guy is clearly trying to trade on the
racial spoil. System the fact that his middle name Is.
QUAME i guarantee you he got HIS sat scores and
he looked at it and he, said there's no, way
as An asian or white kid THAT i would get.
In but my middle name Is. Quame MAYBE i can
(25:48):
confuse people by Clicking African american or. Black here's the other, Thing,
buck AND i think this is. Important he wasn't Actually African.
American he did not become An american citizen in till twenty.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Eighteen so even if you're.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Going to give him, though, well he was born In,
Africa so it's fine for him to Click African. American
we know what the intent of the racial box there.
Was he wasn't Even African, american so he actually. Lied
now here's a question for you THAT i THINK i
hope people are going to look. Into was he admitted
as a minority to the school that he ultimately went,
(26:23):
To Boden, boden WHICH i couldn't even pronounced fourteen hundred At,
boden he'd get.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
In that's that's that's not so you think he got in.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
REGARDLESS i, MEAN i went to A nescac, school So
boden's technically a, competitor and you, Know boden's not that
hard to get. Into oh, snap The boden alumni are
going to flip out at The amherst. Guy but, sorry,
no it's a very good. School but he. Was that's the, Thing,
Clay boden is the school you know that this guy
Would that's that's the school that he would get into
(26:52):
for on his own. Merit he tried to get Into
columbia pulling The I'm Kwame Mamdani mandani, card, right that's
the Now here's where he may have gotten caught his
dad was actually a faculty, member so the admission staff
may have looked into, this AND i wonder if they
rejected him because they thought that he was lying about usually.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Background it actually blew up on. Him and this is
a huge.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Deal this is a huge deal BECAUSE i know this
from friends of mine who work at. UNIVERSITIES i have
a friend who works At Columbia, university for, example don't
want to name, them don't want to get fired for
being friends with. Me but his children can go To
columbia for, free which when you think about that, value
and then on top of, that the unspoken part of
the deal is if your child is even vaguely, child you,
(27:38):
know young adult when they're going to, college if your
kid is vaguely, qualified they are much more likely to
be accepted and they go for. Free a Huge These
Ivy league schools a Huge this is true of all THE,
ivs a lot of schools in, general but The ivy's
for sure a huge benefit To. NOW i think it
might only be for like tenured. Professors there's probably some you.
KNOW i don't know if you're the guy who you,
(28:01):
know like sweeping the floors of the, auditorium but MAYBE
i actually don't. Know i'm getting beyond my brief on.
That but there's this other STORY i just want to
remind everybody of from twenty. FIFTEEN i interviewed this, guy you,
Know Mindy, kaling the actress slash comedian from The. Office,
yes her, brother her. Brother, YEAH i wondered if he
(28:22):
tell this story for people who THE dj Chokol ingham
was his.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Name he Was.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Indian Mindy kaling is his. Sister so she's a famous, actress,
comedian she's from the. Office she's The South asian descent
woman in the. Office so you've the one who's like
anyway you know she is if you've seen the. Office
He clay didn't get Into uh he had very mediocre,
scores didn't get into the medical school programs he wanted,
(28:49):
to so he, reapplied shaved his, HEAD i, believe, yes
shaved his, head darkened his uh you, know tried to
like change the photos so he would look darker in the.
Photo he tried to appear more black and changed his
name To Jojo and guess, what same, score same, person
(29:11):
all of a sudden getting into top medical programs across the,
country and the left. Went he wrote a book about. It,
Right was it a book or a movie he made about?
This it was a website ALMOST i, Mean i'm just
telling you what it's. Called almost black dot com was
the website that he. Launched you know what it goes
to is it points out the absurdity he got looked
(29:34):
at as An indian guy and didn't get in. Anywhere
because CAN i tell you? Something this is, Yeah oh, sorry,
YEAH i just this is the amazing. Thing this IS,
cnn which is now like about to be on the
trash heap and turned into a channel where they sell
Like sawrowsky crystals or something to, You clay THE cnn
piece on, this there's little evidence to suggest that his
posturing as a black applicant helped him get into the following.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Schools there's nothing but ev he, applied didn't get it,
anywhere says he's, black changes his appearance and gets into
a bunch of, schools And CNN's, like there's no evidence
that being black helped.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Him this was a delusion that we were all supposed
to live.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
In not only, THAT i mean the fact that the
if you care about minority, advancement.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
All of These indian.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Kids are so successful In america that they're actually being
penalized for Being, indian and same thing is true Of Chinese.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
JAPANESE i, mean we've talked about this, BEFORE i think
on the. Program but do.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
You know the highest earning race and sex group In,
america It's asian. Men asian men on average make more
money than anyone In. America, Okay so you have all
these young first and second generation immigrants that want to be,
doctors and they're being used their race against them because
there's too many of them doing so. Great this guy
(30:58):
pretends to be black can suddenly get in. Everywhere Nigerian
american immigrants out earn Native american you, know native Born.
AMERICAN i should, say, yeah, households, yes SO i mean
you got to but substantially they're actually a high earning
is a perfect distillation of the actual lack of. Racism
(31:19):
that you could come here From nigeria and immediately become
wealthier than the average person who's been born. Here the
fact that people From nigeria are desperate to get, here
or the fact that people from any part Of africa
Or asia Or Latin america destroys the racism argument on its.
Face why would you want to come to a profoundly racist.
(31:41):
Country BUT i actually give credit to. THAT i remember
that story Because Mindy kayaling is actually a super, leftist
at least publicly in the way that she is.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Embraced, yeah of, Course.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Claid it's also the reason they got upset about this
is because it exposed the absurdity of the whole situation
as well as the truth of. It and the truth
of the affirmative action regime in this country has been
that they've been changing standards for, people primarily people who are,
Black Native american Or, hispanic primarily changing it so that
they give them a couple of hundred points equivalent on
THE sat and lying about. It and they've been doing
(32:15):
this for about forty, years and people are sick of
pretending that this isn't what's been going. On our generation
is the one that saw, it and it's all a
big lie and we're tired of.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
It.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Yeah and also let's also point out doctors theoretically the
people that you would want to be the smartest and
the best at taking. Care we're not talking about somebody
getting a graduate degree in ethics studies or.
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donnie lying about being black And African. American he, scored
according To Chris rufo in the eighty ninth percent. Aisle
they've changed the way that they handle scoring On SAT's.
Acts eighty ninth percentile generally pretty, good but buck the
(35:18):
eighty ninth percentile, score which is around to twelve, eighty
would have been nowhere near good enough for An asian
kid to be able to get into a top, school
which is why he's pretending to Be African. AMERICAN i
did The, YEAH i, Mean i'm glad you pointed this.
OUT i did the back of the envelope math on,
that AND i, assumed, okay well divide. It it's like
a seven, hundred seven hundred times. Too, no, no if
(35:39):
it's more like a twelve. Eighty his chance of getting
in as a non minority To columbia basically, zero no.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
CHANCE i mean not even with even with his dad
as a. Professor.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Professor, yeah, yeah it's just they would have said you're
just not, qualified like you won't be able to handle
the you, know the low so kind of rough For, Boden,
BODEN i thought you were taking a fourteen hundred Sorry,
boden twelve. Eighty, no let me say this too for
people out there that might BE i do think this
is a story because if he marked Black African american
On colombia's, APPLICATION i wonder if he might have gotten
(36:13):
a minority scholarship at a place Like boden or somewhere
else that he ended up. Applying because his middle name
Is quame and he's saying He's African american or, BLACK
i think it's reasonable to assume that he might be mixed. Race,
well they would give HIM i would probably be financial.
AID i don't think That. Boden those small ness packs
(36:33):
Like emerst didn't have, Scholarships but some people go for
free based on the financial aid they.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Get so he might have.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Got but he has wealthy, parents so did he get you,
know he has well off.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Parents did he get a lot of financial?
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Aid clay to your, point because he pretended to be,
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