September 10, 2024 • 36 mins
Bestselling author and commentator Bill O'Reilly joins C&B to give Donald Trump debate advice and discuss his own just-published book. 1995 clip of Kamala Harris being asked if she's Willie Brown's daughter. Michigan Supreme Court rules RFK Jr. will stay on ballot. Callers weigh in on whether women care about Kamala's past as Willie Brown's mistress.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Second hour play and Buck kicks off right now. We
are joined by THEE What and Only Bill O'Reilly, Uncle
Bell in the house, everybody. He's got a new book
out today confronting the president's no spin assessments from Washington
to Biden. Perfect timing to have him on with the
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release of the new book. Also go to Bill O'Reilly
dot com for his no spin news analysis there, day
in and day out. Bill, great to have you back.
We've got a debate tonight. How are you seeing it?
As we get ready here to watch these two intellectual
combatants have at it on stage.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Well, the pressure's on Kamala Harris, but I don't believe
the Vice president is going to do anything different, So
I've got our website. The strategy is, no matter what
the issue, Trump did it. It's open borders and catastrophe
stemming from that. It was Trump's immigration policies that did it.
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He doesn't want immigration reform, inflation. Trump lighted the fuse
that afghanis stand. It was Trump's policies, misguided for the Taliban,
that led to that. That's what Harris is going to
put out there, so people should expect it now with
Donald Trump, you don't know what he's gonna do, right,
which is always the drama when Trump appears anywhere. If
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it were me and I wrote a message of the
day and a column entitled the Kamala Mystery, if I
were Donald Trump tonight, I would understand that no corporate
media type is ever going to challenge or define Kamala Harris.
(01:44):
So this is my chance to do it. And how
you do it is this. So David mu Are, the
anchor of ABC News, he asked Trump a question, right,
and Trump has to be polite tonight. Number one light
should have that tattooed onto his wrist light because David,
(02:05):
I'll get to that at a moment. But I want
to tell the audience watching this evening that I'm very
uneasy standing here on the stage as an American, not
as somebody who's running for president, because I don't know
what has happened in the past three and a half years.
I don't know why the Biden Harris administration opened the border,
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leading to millions of foreign nationals, some of them dangerous,
coming into this country. I don't know. When I left
office that inflation was one point four percent, and I
went to nine percent in a year. I don't know why,
So I hope you guys asked the vice president those
questions because I'd like to know. Now back to York question, David,
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You see what I mean. So he embarrasses and puts
the moderators on the spot. He gets his point across
that kam Larrens doesn't define any thing, and then he
can answer any questions they throw out. So I don't
know w Donald Trump reads my stuff. I think he might,
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but if he does that, he'll win the election. If
he does that.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
We just had a big discussion about who's actually up
for grabs here, and the data from twenty twenty reflects
that Trump didn't actually underperform massively among black voters, Hispanic voters,
any of those groups. He actually lost a lot of
suburban women. And I think it's because they bought into
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the idea, and I think some of them are embarrassed,
but they bought into the idea that COVID was going
to kill everybody and that every school had to shut down,
and that Trump was uniquely unqualified to deal with COVID.
Then Joe Biden came in and he tried to mandate
COVID shots and basically he flailed around for three and
a half years, and I think it's been an unmitigated disaster.
(03:59):
Do you do you buy into some of those suburban
women are still up to grabs up for grabs. If not,
which groups do you think are going to end up
making this decision to who wins the election and how
would you suggest Trump should go after them?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I don't think that Trump should target any groups. I
think that he should basically speak to everybody as an individual,
one on one. I'm the former president. Here's what I
did for you, It's what I'm going to do a
few votes for me. I wouldn't target various groups. I
disagree a little bit with your analysis on women. I
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think that Donald Trump is a problem with American women
because they don't like his demeanor. He's mean, and women
take that much more personally than men. And I think
that's a fact. And so it's not so much that
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they objected his COVID policy or whatever. And now women,
the majority of American women do the grocery shopping for
the home. They got to know they're getting pounded. They
got to know that discretionary income is way off. So
it's a matter of Trump trying to reassure women that
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he's going to help them and their families if he's elected,
and he's got to do it in a way that's
not He don't have to be provocative doing that. You
don't say, Look, you remember the old Saturday Night Live skit, right, Jane,
you ignorant slut? Remember that, dan Aykroyd. You guys don't
remember that? You too?
Speaker 1 (05:45):
You?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah, all right, Well that Trump does a variation of
that every time he talks about aris. You don't need
to do that. You just have to say, look, the
woman doesn't have any problem solving skills and won't even
give an interview. And here's a kicker. I sent the
book to Trump, Confronting the Prisons because Trump's a friend
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of mine, and Trump's in the book, okay, And I
sent him the note. I said, look, you might want
to read this book because it's relevant to you today.
Because Kamala Harrison her campaign is doing exactly what Warren
Harding did in nineteen twenty exactly the same thing. She's
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not answering any questions about anything, and he believes she
can win doing that, and Harding won. He beat the
Democrats because the country was set up with Woodrow Wilson.
It was all personal and harding was a disaster. I
mean that it was so bad it was almost laughable.
(06:52):
And that's why the relevancy of my book to today
is important. But anyway, Trump needs to be a human
being up there, not a caricature. No matter how she
tries to bait him. Just use the old Reagan line
to Jimmy Carter in nineteen eighty. There you go again.
Just use it and everybody at home will go, yeah,
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there she goes again. Listen, if it were you Clay
or you Buck or me O'Reilly, and we were on
that stage against Kamala Harris, what do you think would
happen a visceration?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
She would be destroyed utterly. Be a tough knight for Kamala.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
There would Because you do this for a living. I
do this for a living. We analyze what is actually
happening without crazy emotion. And that's what Trump has to
do now. He's been told that a million times. But
whether he can bring discipline to his presentation, I think
he will. He's got to know this is a shot,
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because he should be ten points up.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Now, how are you feeling about where Trump is right now?
In the momentum shift, Bill, I mean the polls now,
some of them are showing Trump ahead a little, some
of them are showing in the swing state. It's basically
a tie within the margin of error, but better than
Trump was doing in twenty twenty at this point, better
than Trump was doing in twenty sixteen at this point
when he won. Are you feeling confident or do you
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still have concerns that Trump's going to have to turn
on the after burners here to get it done.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I think it's a dead heat, and I think that
Donald Trump has to cut down on his rhetorical mistakes.
If he does that, he probably will eat it out
because I don't believe Kamala Harris has any game at all.
You want to do a sports metaphor, what does she got?
(08:55):
Tell me what she's got? Tell me one thing, just
one thing that's better now than it was four years
ago when Trump left office. Just give me one. But
that's the kind of stuff you've got to present to
the American people. You got to just get it down
to the basic level and stop with all this crazy
stuff about skin color and unmarried people like cats and dogs.
(09:18):
This is insane. You just say, hey, you're an American,
You're living your life. Is anything in your life better
now than it was when I was there? And he
answers no. All the polls show that. So I'm a
simple man. You guys know that. And it's a miracle
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that a simple man like Bill O'Reilly can be the
best selling nonfiction author in the world. But simplicity can
go a long way.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
That's not a bad line to be able to drop. Congratulations,
I know you've got a new book coming out today.
What do you today? In fact, yes, and I'm sure
it will be a best seller.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
As confronting the presidents on the day of the debate,
Clay no less almost like a not bad time at all.
All Right, So.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
You we talked about how CNN's moderators basically vanished on
June twenty seven to a large extent and allowed the
story to be Trump versus Biden, and obviously Biden's mental
and physical cognition revealed itself. Do you think ABC's moderators
will do the same or tomorrow morning when everybody is
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assessing and later tonight as everybody breaks down, do you
think the ABC moderators make themselves a part of this debate?
Or do they kind of fade into the background. A
CNN did.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Excellent question, thank you. So, as I reported the day
after the CNN debate that sunk Biden, the moderators Happer
and Besh were told you better fair your jobs on
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the line, so they were scared to death and they
were neutral. When Dana Bash interviewed Kamala Harris, she turned
into poor performance because she didn't follow up. He refused
to she allowed evasions. So tonight you got David Muir,
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not known for being a very astute interviewer. Would you
both agree with that?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yes, he's very handsome though, as Play says, as place.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Is incredibly handsome and the most popular ABC the News broadcast.
He's very good at reading glass, right, Yeah, he needs glass.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Well, So you guys know, I worked as a correspondent
for ABC News under Jennings, Peter Jennings, and I knew Copple,
and I knew the whole boy and the whole network.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
There.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Muir is a good news reader, all right. He says
tonight fifteen times in the first five minutes, so that
yest tonight, tonight, tonight, tonight, tonight. So that means he's
not writing the script, somebody's writing it for him. I've
never seen David Muir do an interview that went WHOA,
But maybe he will rise to the occasion. The other one,
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Lindsay Davis, is a liberal woman. There's no question about that.
She comes at it from a sensibility of race and gender.
She'll probably be a little feights there. But do I
expect either of them to push Kamala Harris or point
out that she's evading.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
No.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
However, I do know that the CEO of Disney, which
owns ABC News, has issued instructions, not himself, through his minions,
that they better not show any overt bias against Trump.
And these are two individuals who are not going to
go against the power, So I don't expect any overt byrant.
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I expect them to just accept what Tomalas says and
here and here's a good question for them if they're
listening to Clay Buck, which they should be. Tom Aerson's
basic campaign now is we're gonna go We're gonna start
a new direction. Why do you need a new direction?
You just told us that Joe Biden is the greatest
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president since Lincoln. Why are we going in a new direction?
Speaker 1 (13:24):
What isn't that fantastic?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Again? Simple question, that's your whole campaign. Oh go in
a new direction? Loo hey joy, We're gonna have a
lot of joy. What if by we's so great? Why
are you doing a new direction? See? These are the
kind of stuff that can make a difference. But I
don't expect that to be asked or anything close to it.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Bill, the book is out. It is fantastic. We appreciate
you coming on with us confronting the presidents. No spin
assessments from Washington to Biden. Enjoy the debate. We will
talk to you again soon, and also check out Bill
O'Reilly dot com.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Thank you, sir, Thanks having in guys, always a pleasure.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
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Speaker 3 (16:04):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We will
take some of your calls. Buck asked, I reiterate eight
hundred and two two two eight two. Do you believe
that Kamala Harris sleeping with the married man Willie Brown
using it to get four hundred thousand dollars in jobs
could cancel out for some women their concerns about Trump's
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character because, in the words of Joe Biden, you basically
got two alley cats. Let's toss out the morals and
the character and let's go straight to the issues, which
Trump wins on all of them. Here is Buck, a
now going viral clip from nineteen ninety five. Kamala Harris
asked if she is Willy Brown's daughter as she parties
beside him.
Speaker 7 (16:49):
He's a rogue, all right, notorious for his flamboyant lifestyle,
flashy clothes, fancy parties, fine women, and fast cars.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
All right, we can stop it.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
There Kamala Harris, The camera zooms in on her as
she is asked by a reporter are you his daughter?
It is clearly Kamala Harris partying next to Willie Brown,
who would give her four hundred thousand dollars. Buck says,
I'm crazy. There is no impact here. I think that
you could cancel out the morals issue because you got
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to say, Okay, you got a couple of alley cats here,
let's move on to the issue.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
No, I don't think anyone really care when you're talking
about the morals issue. That's different from the tone issue
with Trump. Thinking that Trump can be a bully, which
some people I can't explain why they do, but some
people view with this, and some women think that he's
kind of a bully and he can be kind of mean.
Listen to what Bill said, it's not oh but you
know he was a philanderer or whatever. I just don't
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think anybody cares in any meaningful way. Although the clip
is amazing. I will agree with that. It is an
amazing clip.
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Speaker 1 (18:57):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck debate tonight. It's gonna
be a big one. It's gonna be huge, and we
are diving into all of the latest in terms of
the numbers, but also the analysis. What is likely to
be discussed tonight where the pressure points, the pain points
may be for each of these combatants on the stage
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of politics, and we'll get some of your calls here
in a second. Worth noting that the Michigan State Supreme
Court has ruled and RFK Junior will stay on the
ballot there. That is not good. So not good. If
you want Trump to win, maybe it doesn't matter. I
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hope it doesn't matter. That would be great, But this
is not the situation that you want RFK. You have
understand he has his own internal polling and he's gonna
have a better sense of this than anybody. The reason
he has been advocating for taking his name off the
ballot even after the Trump you know, apart from or
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in addition to the Trump endorsement, is he knows that
he's taking more Trump voters than he is commal Of voters.
So staying on the ballot in Michigan, you might say, well,
people know that he's endorsed Trump. Yeah, but if five
thousand or ten thousand people decide they're going to vote
for RFK Junior or some kind of a protest or
they're just going to do it anyway, that could be
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the difference in Michigan. I don't I don't want to
get ahead of ourselves because we don't know. Maybe it
doesn't matter, maybe Trump sweeps the the battleground states. But
this was my concern, and I know it wasn't It
wasn't fun to be the guy sent around so saying, Hey,
this vanity campaign. I know it's all fun for everybody,
but may actually cause some problems. This could be a problem.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I also think it's significant Buck because they tried to
tell us that RFK Junior's endorsement didn't matter at all.
We'll get what they do, not what they say. If
it didn't matter at all, why is the Secretary of
State of Michigan, a Democrat, fighting so hard to keep
RFK Junior's name on the ballot. Remember he said, hey,
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I want to pull my name off the ballot. I've
withdrawn from the race. I don't want anyone to vote
for me. And the Secretary of State of Michigan has
gone all the way to the Michigan Supreme Court to
ensure that his name stays on the ballot. What are
they doing, not what they're saying. What they're doing suggests
that they know rfk's endorsement of Trump is a big
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deal and has a substantial impact, and so They're hoping
that they can keep him on the ballot because they
want people to vote for him instead of Trump, which
the data reflects will happen in Michigan.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
And to your point, if you.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Come down to five or ten thousand votes and correct
me if I'm wrong, but I think Trump won Michigan
in twenty sixteen by eleven thousand votes. I think that
was the final margin. If the crew in New York
correct me on that if I'm wrong, I think in
twenty sixteen, I think Trump won Michigan by eleven thousand votes.
I don't think it's crazy at all to think that
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eleven thousand people in Michigan would vote for RFK Junior
that might otherwise vote for Trump. We got a bunch
of people who want a way in with the question.
We asked women about Kamala Harris being the side chick
the mistress of Willie Brown when she was young, and
whether that can cancel out my theory some of the
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antipathy towards Donald Trump and his character from female voters.
Buck says, no, I think the answer may be yes.
Cindy and Champagne Illinois. Big win for your Ali and
I over the Kansas Jayhawks. I don't know if you
paid attention to that, but many people in Illinois did.
Speaker 8 (22:42):
Lily, you you can't miss that. But you're right, I
did not know that about her. So what you did
was brings beforefront some information that changes. I mean, I'm
not thrilled about her anyway, but she's now on the
same level as as Trump, and I don't like Trump.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Were you voting for Trump? It's important. Were you voting
for Trump though? Anyway?
Speaker 8 (23:08):
Yes, I was, as a matter of fact, and I
don't I don't know if I qualify this as suburban women.
You guys have not defined that for me.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Well, that's a good point.
Speaker 8 (23:18):
I'm glad you brought out disinformation, and you need to
bring out more of her dirt because there do you think?
Speaker 3 (23:26):
So here's here's my question for you, Cindy, to your point,
you were voting for Trump anyway, but you didn't know
about this. If you talk to other women, do you
think other women know about this? And do you agree
with me that some of them, who may not like
Trump's morals or his character issues, might be aligned with
him on the issues itself. My theory is if they
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know Kamala is not a saint too, and she has
her own past.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
It helps Trump objection leading the witness go ahead.
Speaker 8 (23:55):
Yeah, I agree, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
I love you, Cindy, congratulations, thank you for calling in
just great astute analysis.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
I have to say, book, we have Carol in Ohio.
What's going on?
Speaker 5 (24:10):
Carol, Well, I'd say that it doesn't matter. I think
Bill Clinton proved that there are people just loved him
to death, no matter what happened with Monica Lewinsky. And
I don't think they're going to care in the presidential election.
If Kamala Harris slept with somebody thirty years ago, they're
not going to care. I think what's more important is
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that this whole convicted felon thing, and I think he
needs to counteract that, and that would be really easy,
and I think he needs to point that out tonight,
say look how many times she's going to say it,
Look how many times she says it in her stump speeches,
And let's talk about what's really happening. They've spent millions
of your hard earned tax dollars on bugus charges to
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come after me, to remove me, so that they can
get to you and control you. I think he has
to turn that around, because I think more people throw
that out. I hear it all the time. Well, he's
a convicted selling I don't hear anything about his marriages,
so I think he needs to go after that. But
I don't think people really care. They care if the
woman down the street is chieving, but they don't care,
you know, or the guy down the street is teeving
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with some woman, they don't care about it. In a
presidential election.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I think Carolin Ohio is astute and on point, mister Clay,
So I.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Disagree completely with Carol in Ohio Rebecca in Cleveland. Let's
see if Rebecca has good sense or not. Rebecca, what
do you think?
Speaker 8 (25:32):
Hi?
Speaker 9 (25:32):
Yes, I just wanted to give a married woman's perspective
on this. I think it goes actually beyond a moral issue,
and it goes to a trust in integrity issue. If
I can't trust that Kamala Harris is not going to
sleep with my husband, how can I trust that she's
going to have my and my family's best interests in
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mind as she's running the country.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Well, Rebecca, were you voting for Trump?
Speaker 9 (25:58):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Okay, so, but but Rebecca, do you think this is
really the question is are there women out there, and
my answer is yes, I think you question whether that's
true or not. Buck that are almost entirely voting based
on an emotional opinion of Trump, rooted in he's a cheater,
I don't like him, He's dishonest, And they have bought
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into the idea that Kamala Harris is the opposite of Trump,
when in reality, distilled Joe Biden's term, They're both just
a couple of alley cats in that they I've never met.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
I've never met this, this amalgamation or this this construct
of the suburban woman who was open to voting for
Kamala and open to voting for Trump and cares about
morals but doesn't care about the policies, and now that
she knows that Kamala slept with some guy thirty years ago,
is like, ah, now are you familiar with women? But
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they forever my my accountant, my my dentist. I mean,
everyone I know is right wing. You've got to understand something, buddy,
like I don't. I don't deal with a lot of
the uh of the communists in a day to day sense,
So I might I might be missing something, but I've
never Yeah, Clay every woman who we've had called in
so far, and we love all of you. Thank you
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so much for listening to the show. They're Trump voters,
So there's another data point. This is what That's what
I'm saying. Of course they're trump Why are they trumpeters
or Trumpeters? Because they care about facts and family and
policy and and you know, they have a sense of
of their own morality and integrity, and they operate in
the world of the true, not the operator in the
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world of the make believe this construct. What you're talking
about is someone who is open to voting for either
and then cares a kammas leap with somebody thirty years ago.
That's what we're not getting. I haven't got any of
those calls yet. And I'm not saying you're wrong about
things that don't exist, but I think you're wrong. You
like that's Pedrizio baby.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Yeah, yeah, I'm not gonna say you're wrong, but I
think you're clearly wrong. I will say I would acknowledge
that the number of women out there who are undecided
voters that didn't know that Kamala slept with Willy Brown
and are listening to this show is probably small, but it.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Was clear was thirty years ago. I don't understand. I
mean like this, and Trump is not exactly like I
just I don't understand, like who cares? I don't understand.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
I don't think women. I don't think women ever forgive
side chicks. I don't think married women ever forgive mistresses.
I think they hate them with a passion. They see
them as home wreckers. And Kamala in this context. Look
if Kamala had gone on and married Willie Brown and
they had kids, I think some women would forgive her.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
I am good at this. I got in her head, and.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
I should have been a psychologist. I'm telling you I'm
in their head right now. And there are women that
are listening to me right now that are like, how
are you so in my head?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
I tell you. Grow up in New York City. I
know plenty of women who don't like the guy that
divorces the first wife for like the younger, sexier, you
know model, so to speak, the next time around. But
you know what, we're a big country with big boy ideas,
and like we got other things to think about it.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
I will say, in Trump's defense, he married and had
kids with those women. I think the porn star is
the bigger issue for him, which is why it's lingered
and why they focused on it. But my point is,
if they can tell you that Trump's sleeping with a
porn star allegedly in any playoff playmate by the way, allegedly, yeah,
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allegedly in two thousand and six or whatever year it was,
and they can make it a story for nine years,
it seems fair to make Kamala Harris sleeping with Willie
Brown while he was married. She was twenty nine, he
was sixty a story for four months. That seems fair, Kathy,
and since but we got all Ohio is riled up
(30:03):
about this story. If nobody else is Kathy. Sorry, Cali
in Cincinnati, CALLI what do you think?
Speaker 10 (30:11):
Hi me there? Sadly, I have to say, I don't
think suburban housewives, flush moms are gonna care. They are
still concerned about Trump's mean tweets and they are still
focused on that. And when I'm talking to these women,
I try to drive home. I tried to talk about policy,
and even in Cincinnati, Ohio, they don't know what's going
(30:34):
on in spring Grow, Ohio, just north of Cincinnati with
the Haitian migrants and whatnot. So it's not on the news,
it's not in front of them, so they still just
think Trump is mean.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Thank you for the call, Cali. You know who just
wait in. Laura Travis via text Buck is so wrong.
Laura never agrees with me, with me on anything, she says.
I'm gonna read my wife's text. I know at least
three women who have said out loud to me they
would never vote for Trump because they just don't trust
him and think he's kind of sleazy. If they know
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Kamala is also sleazy, it forces them to make a
decision on an actual issue rather than just voting emotionally.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
She may say it better than me. You disagreement is
so often a paragona virtue. Her movie choices are world class,
and whenever she tells you that you are wrong, Clay,
she is spot on.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Which is basically all the time. She never agrees with
me on anything. So that's why I had to read
that text message. She's out driving right now. She keeps
claymation in the cage, you know what I mean. She
doesn't let him get too crazy out there. But I
just man, if it were recent stuff, I'd be a
little bit more willing to believe the line of argument
that is going to matter in this election. I feel
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like I feel like this is on the list of
things that people are thinking about when they're casting their ballots.
I think the Kamala Willie Brown thing doesn't I don't
think it makes the top twenty five. It might not
make the top fift for most rational people. I think
that's true. But much of the opposition to Trump is
rooted in emotion, not logic, and so if you can
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point out something that is emotionally flawed with another emotional flaw,
it sometimes forces people to go back and reconsider it.
But by the way, we're only talking in theory about
like six hundred thousand people in three hundred and thirty
million that are still out there right now undecided about
(32:30):
how they're going to vote. That's kind of crazy in
and of itself, right, I mean, we're talking about point
five percent of the population at most.
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of the stories that we played for you yesterday that
continue to echo. We will ask him what he has
seen in the third hour. But top of the next
hour debate is here. It's going to start in what
about seven hours from now. Trump's team, some of them
might well be listening. What advice would you give peak
(35:47):
performance advice for Trump? I've got a couple of ideas.
I bet you have a couple of ideas.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Buck.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
We will lay out the debate to come, what we
expect from the moderators, and how we anticipate it's all
going to go when we come back.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Third hour, final hour before the debate. Corinn in Utah,
we got fifty seconds. Wanted to get you in. What's up?
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (36:09):
I agree with Buck, And here's my reason. You have
a lot of women out there that are single issue voters.
They simply want to see a woman in the White House,
and a lot of them are going to justify it
in their mind. Turn about is fair play whatever you
got to do to get ahead. And it's kind of
like a lot of people believe that it's okay to
(36:30):
be racist against twice because we've been racist against blacks
for so long.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
One ill does not cure another ill. But I certainly
understand that argument. By the way, am I racist? I
mentioned earlier? Really good documentary Matt Walsh. It's out this weekend.
I think you guys will enjoy it when we come back.
More of your calls and advice for Trump on the
Big Night here on clay Buck
Second hour play and Buck kicks off right now. We
are joined by THEE What and Only Bill O'Reilly, Uncle
Bell in the house, everybody. He's got a new book
out today confronting the president's no spin assessments from Washington
to Biden. Perfect timing to have him on with the
(00:20):
release of the new book. Also go to Bill O'Reilly
dot com for his no spin news analysis there, day
in and day out. Bill, great to have you back.
We've got a debate tonight. How are you seeing it?
As we get ready here to watch these two intellectual
combatants have at it on stage.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Well, the pressure's on Kamala Harris, but I don't believe
the Vice president is going to do anything different, So
I've got our website. The strategy is, no matter what
the issue, Trump did it. It's open borders and catastrophe
stemming from that. It was Trump's immigration policies that did it.
(01:00):
He doesn't want immigration reform, inflation. Trump lighted the fuse
that afghanis stand. It was Trump's policies, misguided for the Taliban,
that led to that. That's what Harris is going to
put out there, so people should expect it now with
Donald Trump, you don't know what he's gonna do, right,
which is always the drama when Trump appears anywhere. If
(01:24):
it were me and I wrote a message of the
day and a column entitled the Kamala Mystery, if I
were Donald Trump tonight, I would understand that no corporate
media type is ever going to challenge or define Kamala Harris.
(01:44):
So this is my chance to do it. And how
you do it is this. So David mu Are, the
anchor of ABC News, he asked Trump a question, right,
and Trump has to be polite tonight. Number one light
should have that tattooed onto his wrist light because David,
(02:05):
I'll get to that at a moment. But I want
to tell the audience watching this evening that I'm very
uneasy standing here on the stage as an American, not
as somebody who's running for president, because I don't know
what has happened in the past three and a half years.
I don't know why the Biden Harris administration opened the border,
(02:25):
leading to millions of foreign nationals, some of them dangerous,
coming into this country. I don't know. When I left
office that inflation was one point four percent, and I
went to nine percent in a year. I don't know why,
So I hope you guys asked the vice president those
questions because I'd like to know. Now back to York question, David,
(02:49):
You see what I mean. So he embarrasses and puts
the moderators on the spot. He gets his point across
that kam Larrens doesn't define any thing, and then he
can answer any questions they throw out. So I don't
know w Donald Trump reads my stuff. I think he might,
(03:10):
but if he does that, he'll win the election. If
he does that.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
We just had a big discussion about who's actually up
for grabs here, and the data from twenty twenty reflects
that Trump didn't actually underperform massively among black voters, Hispanic voters,
any of those groups. He actually lost a lot of
suburban women. And I think it's because they bought into
(03:38):
the idea, and I think some of them are embarrassed,
but they bought into the idea that COVID was going
to kill everybody and that every school had to shut down,
and that Trump was uniquely unqualified to deal with COVID.
Then Joe Biden came in and he tried to mandate
COVID shots and basically he flailed around for three and
a half years, and I think it's been an unmitigated disaster.
(03:59):
Do you do you buy into some of those suburban
women are still up to grabs up for grabs. If not,
which groups do you think are going to end up
making this decision to who wins the election and how
would you suggest Trump should go after them?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I don't think that Trump should target any groups. I
think that he should basically speak to everybody as an individual,
one on one. I'm the former president. Here's what I
did for you, It's what I'm going to do a
few votes for me. I wouldn't target various groups. I
disagree a little bit with your analysis on women. I
(04:40):
think that Donald Trump is a problem with American women
because they don't like his demeanor. He's mean, and women
take that much more personally than men. And I think
that's a fact. And so it's not so much that
(05:04):
they objected his COVID policy or whatever. And now women,
the majority of American women do the grocery shopping for
the home. They got to know they're getting pounded. They
got to know that discretionary income is way off. So
it's a matter of Trump trying to reassure women that
(05:27):
he's going to help them and their families if he's elected,
and he's got to do it in a way that's
not He don't have to be provocative doing that. You
don't say, Look, you remember the old Saturday Night Live skit, right, Jane,
you ignorant slut? Remember that, dan Aykroyd. You guys don't
remember that? You too?
Speaker 1 (05:45):
You?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah, all right, Well that Trump does a variation of
that every time he talks about aris. You don't need
to do that. You just have to say, look, the
woman doesn't have any problem solving skills and won't even
give an interview. And here's a kicker. I sent the
book to Trump, Confronting the Prisons because Trump's a friend
(06:09):
of mine, and Trump's in the book, okay, And I
sent him the note. I said, look, you might want
to read this book because it's relevant to you today.
Because Kamala Harrison her campaign is doing exactly what Warren
Harding did in nineteen twenty exactly the same thing. She's
(06:32):
not answering any questions about anything, and he believes she
can win doing that, and Harding won. He beat the
Democrats because the country was set up with Woodrow Wilson.
It was all personal and harding was a disaster. I
mean that it was so bad it was almost laughable.
(06:52):
And that's why the relevancy of my book to today
is important. But anyway, Trump needs to be a human
being up there, not a caricature. No matter how she
tries to bait him. Just use the old Reagan line
to Jimmy Carter in nineteen eighty. There you go again.
Just use it and everybody at home will go, yeah,
(07:15):
there she goes again. Listen, if it were you Clay
or you Buck or me O'Reilly, and we were on
that stage against Kamala Harris, what do you think would
happen a visceration?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
She would be destroyed utterly. Be a tough knight for Kamala.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
There would Because you do this for a living. I
do this for a living. We analyze what is actually
happening without crazy emotion. And that's what Trump has to
do now. He's been told that a million times. But
whether he can bring discipline to his presentation, I think
he will. He's got to know this is a shot,
(07:57):
because he should be ten points up.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Now, how are you feeling about where Trump is right now?
In the momentum shift, Bill, I mean the polls now,
some of them are showing Trump ahead a little, some
of them are showing in the swing state. It's basically
a tie within the margin of error, but better than
Trump was doing in twenty twenty at this point, better
than Trump was doing in twenty sixteen at this point
when he won. Are you feeling confident or do you
(08:24):
still have concerns that Trump's going to have to turn
on the after burners here to get it done.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I think it's a dead heat, and I think that
Donald Trump has to cut down on his rhetorical mistakes.
If he does that, he probably will eat it out
because I don't believe Kamala Harris has any game at all.
You want to do a sports metaphor, what does she got?
(08:55):
Tell me what she's got? Tell me one thing, just
one thing that's better now than it was four years
ago when Trump left office. Just give me one. But
that's the kind of stuff you've got to present to
the American people. You got to just get it down
to the basic level and stop with all this crazy
stuff about skin color and unmarried people like cats and dogs.
(09:18):
This is insane. You just say, hey, you're an American,
You're living your life. Is anything in your life better
now than it was when I was there? And he
answers no. All the polls show that. So I'm a
simple man. You guys know that. And it's a miracle
(09:39):
that a simple man like Bill O'Reilly can be the
best selling nonfiction author in the world. But simplicity can
go a long way.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
That's not a bad line to be able to drop. Congratulations,
I know you've got a new book coming out today.
What do you today? In fact, yes, and I'm sure
it will be a best seller.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
As confronting the presidents on the day of the debate,
Clay no less almost like a not bad time at all.
All Right, So.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
You we talked about how CNN's moderators basically vanished on
June twenty seven to a large extent and allowed the
story to be Trump versus Biden, and obviously Biden's mental
and physical cognition revealed itself. Do you think ABC's moderators
will do the same or tomorrow morning when everybody is
(10:28):
assessing and later tonight as everybody breaks down, do you
think the ABC moderators make themselves a part of this debate?
Or do they kind of fade into the background. A
CNN did.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Excellent question, thank you. So, as I reported the day
after the CNN debate that sunk Biden, the moderators Happer
and Besh were told you better fair your jobs on
(11:02):
the line, so they were scared to death and they
were neutral. When Dana Bash interviewed Kamala Harris, she turned
into poor performance because she didn't follow up. He refused
to she allowed evasions. So tonight you got David Muir,
(11:24):
not known for being a very astute interviewer. Would you
both agree with that?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yes, he's very handsome though, as Play says, as place.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Is incredibly handsome and the most popular ABC the News broadcast.
He's very good at reading glass, right, Yeah, he needs glass.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Well, So you guys know, I worked as a correspondent
for ABC News under Jennings, Peter Jennings, and I knew Copple,
and I knew the whole boy and the whole network.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
There.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Muir is a good news reader, all right. He says
tonight fifteen times in the first five minutes, so that
yest tonight, tonight, tonight, tonight, tonight. So that means he's
not writing the script, somebody's writing it for him. I've
never seen David Muir do an interview that went WHOA,
But maybe he will rise to the occasion. The other one,
(12:13):
Lindsay Davis, is a liberal woman. There's no question about that.
She comes at it from a sensibility of race and gender.
She'll probably be a little feights there. But do I
expect either of them to push Kamala Harris or point
out that she's evading.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
No.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
However, I do know that the CEO of Disney, which
owns ABC News, has issued instructions, not himself, through his minions,
that they better not show any overt bias against Trump.
And these are two individuals who are not going to
go against the power, So I don't expect any overt byrant.
(13:00):
I expect them to just accept what Tomalas says and
here and here's a good question for them if they're
listening to Clay Buck, which they should be. Tom Aerson's
basic campaign now is we're gonna go We're gonna start
a new direction. Why do you need a new direction?
You just told us that Joe Biden is the greatest
(13:20):
president since Lincoln. Why are we going in a new direction?
Speaker 1 (13:24):
What isn't that fantastic?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Again? Simple question, that's your whole campaign. Oh go in
a new direction? Loo hey joy, We're gonna have a
lot of joy. What if by we's so great? Why
are you doing a new direction? See? These are the
kind of stuff that can make a difference. But I
don't expect that to be asked or anything close to it.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Bill, the book is out. It is fantastic. We appreciate
you coming on with us confronting the presidents. No spin
assessments from Washington to Biden. Enjoy the debate. We will
talk to you again soon, and also check out Bill
O'Reilly dot com.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Thank you, sir, Thanks having in guys, always a pleasure.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
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little bit of testosterone in his life, and maybe you
wouldn't be having to buy me a steak, and maybe
he would still be the nominee out there right now
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(14:28):
no vitality, no exceptional energy. He looked like a dead
man walking. If you don't want to look like Joe
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Speaker 3 (16:04):
Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We will
take some of your calls. Buck asked, I reiterate eight
hundred and two two two eight two. Do you believe
that Kamala Harris sleeping with the married man Willie Brown
using it to get four hundred thousand dollars in jobs
could cancel out for some women their concerns about Trump's
(16:28):
character because, in the words of Joe Biden, you basically
got two alley cats. Let's toss out the morals and
the character and let's go straight to the issues, which
Trump wins on all of them. Here is Buck, a
now going viral clip from nineteen ninety five. Kamala Harris
asked if she is Willy Brown's daughter as she parties
beside him.
Speaker 7 (16:49):
He's a rogue, all right, notorious for his flamboyant lifestyle,
flashy clothes, fancy parties, fine women, and fast cars.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
All right, we can stop it.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
There Kamala Harris, The camera zooms in on her as
she is asked by a reporter are you his daughter?
It is clearly Kamala Harris partying next to Willie Brown,
who would give her four hundred thousand dollars. Buck says,
I'm crazy. There is no impact here. I think that
you could cancel out the morals issue because you got
(17:25):
to say, Okay, you got a couple of alley cats here,
let's move on to the issue.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
No, I don't think anyone really care when you're talking
about the morals issue. That's different from the tone issue
with Trump. Thinking that Trump can be a bully, which
some people I can't explain why they do, but some
people view with this, and some women think that he's
kind of a bully and he can be kind of mean.
Listen to what Bill said, it's not oh but you
know he was a philanderer or whatever. I just don't
(17:50):
think anybody cares in any meaningful way. Although the clip
is amazing. I will agree with that. It is an
amazing clip.
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Welcome back into Clay and Buck debate tonight. It's gonna
be a big one. It's gonna be huge, and we
are diving into all of the latest in terms of
the numbers, but also the analysis. What is likely to
be discussed tonight where the pressure points, the pain points
may be for each of these combatants on the stage
(19:18):
of politics, and we'll get some of your calls here
in a second. Worth noting that the Michigan State Supreme
Court has ruled and RFK Junior will stay on the
ballot there. That is not good. So not good. If
you want Trump to win, maybe it doesn't matter. I
(19:40):
hope it doesn't matter. That would be great, But this
is not the situation that you want RFK. You have
understand he has his own internal polling and he's gonna
have a better sense of this than anybody. The reason
he has been advocating for taking his name off the
ballot even after the Trump you know, apart from or
(20:04):
in addition to the Trump endorsement, is he knows that
he's taking more Trump voters than he is commal Of voters.
So staying on the ballot in Michigan, you might say, well,
people know that he's endorsed Trump. Yeah, but if five
thousand or ten thousand people decide they're going to vote
for RFK Junior or some kind of a protest or
they're just going to do it anyway, that could be
(20:24):
the difference in Michigan. I don't I don't want to
get ahead of ourselves because we don't know. Maybe it
doesn't matter, maybe Trump sweeps the the battleground states. But
this was my concern, and I know it wasn't It
wasn't fun to be the guy sent around so saying, Hey,
this vanity campaign. I know it's all fun for everybody,
but may actually cause some problems. This could be a problem.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I also think it's significant Buck because they tried to
tell us that RFK Junior's endorsement didn't matter at all.
We'll get what they do, not what they say. If
it didn't matter at all, why is the Secretary of
State of Michigan, a Democrat, fighting so hard to keep
RFK Junior's name on the ballot. Remember he said, hey,
(21:04):
I want to pull my name off the ballot. I've
withdrawn from the race. I don't want anyone to vote
for me. And the Secretary of State of Michigan has
gone all the way to the Michigan Supreme Court to
ensure that his name stays on the ballot. What are
they doing, not what they're saying. What they're doing suggests
that they know rfk's endorsement of Trump is a big
(21:26):
deal and has a substantial impact, and so They're hoping
that they can keep him on the ballot because they
want people to vote for him instead of Trump, which
the data reflects will happen in Michigan.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
And to your point, if you.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Come down to five or ten thousand votes and correct
me if I'm wrong, but I think Trump won Michigan
in twenty sixteen by eleven thousand votes. I think that
was the final margin. If the crew in New York
correct me on that if I'm wrong, I think in
twenty sixteen, I think Trump won Michigan by eleven thousand votes.
I don't think it's crazy at all to think that
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eleven thousand people in Michigan would vote for RFK Junior
that might otherwise vote for Trump. We got a bunch
of people who want a way in with the question.
We asked women about Kamala Harris being the side chick
the mistress of Willie Brown when she was young, and
whether that can cancel out my theory some of the
(22:23):
antipathy towards Donald Trump and his character from female voters.
Buck says, no, I think the answer may be yes.
Cindy and Champagne Illinois. Big win for your Ali and
I over the Kansas Jayhawks. I don't know if you
paid attention to that, but many people in Illinois did.
Speaker 8 (22:42):
Lily, you you can't miss that. But you're right, I
did not know that about her. So what you did
was brings beforefront some information that changes. I mean, I'm
not thrilled about her anyway, but she's now on the
same level as as Trump, and I don't like Trump.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Were you voting for Trump? It's important. Were you voting
for Trump though? Anyway?
Speaker 8 (23:08):
Yes, I was, as a matter of fact, and I
don't I don't know if I qualify this as suburban women.
You guys have not defined that for me.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Well, that's a good point.
Speaker 8 (23:18):
I'm glad you brought out disinformation, and you need to
bring out more of her dirt because there do you think?
Speaker 3 (23:26):
So here's here's my question for you, Cindy, to your point,
you were voting for Trump anyway, but you didn't know
about this. If you talk to other women, do you
think other women know about this? And do you agree
with me that some of them, who may not like
Trump's morals or his character issues, might be aligned with
him on the issues itself. My theory is if they
(23:47):
know Kamala is not a saint too, and she has
her own past.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
It helps Trump objection leading the witness go ahead.
Speaker 8 (23:55):
Yeah, I agree, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
I love you, Cindy, congratulations, thank you for calling in
just great astute analysis.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
I have to say, book, we have Carol in Ohio.
What's going on?
Speaker 5 (24:10):
Carol, Well, I'd say that it doesn't matter. I think
Bill Clinton proved that there are people just loved him
to death, no matter what happened with Monica Lewinsky. And
I don't think they're going to care in the presidential election.
If Kamala Harris slept with somebody thirty years ago, they're
not going to care. I think what's more important is
(24:32):
that this whole convicted felon thing, and I think he
needs to counteract that, and that would be really easy,
and I think he needs to point that out tonight,
say look how many times she's going to say it,
Look how many times she says it in her stump speeches,
And let's talk about what's really happening. They've spent millions
of your hard earned tax dollars on bugus charges to
(24:53):
come after me, to remove me, so that they can
get to you and control you. I think he has
to turn that around, because I think more people throw
that out. I hear it all the time. Well, he's
a convicted selling I don't hear anything about his marriages,
so I think he needs to go after that. But
I don't think people really care. They care if the
woman down the street is chieving, but they don't care,
you know, or the guy down the street is teeving
(25:15):
with some woman, they don't care about it. In a
presidential election.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I think Carolin Ohio is astute and on point, mister Clay,
So I.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Disagree completely with Carol in Ohio Rebecca in Cleveland. Let's
see if Rebecca has good sense or not. Rebecca, what
do you think?
Speaker 8 (25:32):
Hi?
Speaker 9 (25:32):
Yes, I just wanted to give a married woman's perspective
on this. I think it goes actually beyond a moral issue,
and it goes to a trust in integrity issue. If
I can't trust that Kamala Harris is not going to
sleep with my husband, how can I trust that she's
going to have my and my family's best interests in
(25:52):
mind as she's running the country.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Well, Rebecca, were you voting for Trump?
Speaker 9 (25:58):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Okay, so, but but Rebecca, do you think this is
really the question is are there women out there, and
my answer is yes, I think you question whether that's
true or not. Buck that are almost entirely voting based
on an emotional opinion of Trump, rooted in he's a cheater,
I don't like him, He's dishonest, And they have bought
(26:22):
into the idea that Kamala Harris is the opposite of Trump,
when in reality, distilled Joe Biden's term, They're both just
a couple of alley cats in that they I've never met.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
I've never met this, this amalgamation or this this construct
of the suburban woman who was open to voting for
Kamala and open to voting for Trump and cares about
morals but doesn't care about the policies, and now that
she knows that Kamala slept with some guy thirty years ago,
is like, ah, now are you familiar with women? But
(26:57):
they forever my my accountant, my my dentist. I mean,
everyone I know is right wing. You've got to understand something, buddy,
like I don't. I don't deal with a lot of
the uh of the communists in a day to day sense,
So I might I might be missing something, but I've
never Yeah, Clay every woman who we've had called in
so far, and we love all of you. Thank you
(27:18):
so much for listening to the show. They're Trump voters,
So there's another data point. This is what That's what
I'm saying. Of course they're trump Why are they trumpeters
or Trumpeters? Because they care about facts and family and
policy and and you know, they have a sense of
of their own morality and integrity, and they operate in
the world of the true, not the operator in the
(27:39):
world of the make believe this construct. What you're talking
about is someone who is open to voting for either
and then cares a kammas leap with somebody thirty years ago.
That's what we're not getting. I haven't got any of
those calls yet. And I'm not saying you're wrong about
things that don't exist, but I think you're wrong. You
like that's Pedrizio baby.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Yeah, yeah, I'm not gonna say you're wrong, but I
think you're clearly wrong. I will say I would acknowledge
that the number of women out there who are undecided
voters that didn't know that Kamala slept with Willy Brown
and are listening to this show is probably small, but it.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Was clear was thirty years ago. I don't understand. I
mean like this, and Trump is not exactly like I
just I don't understand, like who cares? I don't understand.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
I don't think women. I don't think women ever forgive
side chicks. I don't think married women ever forgive mistresses.
I think they hate them with a passion. They see
them as home wreckers. And Kamala in this context. Look
if Kamala had gone on and married Willie Brown and
they had kids, I think some women would forgive her.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
I am good at this. I got in her head, and.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
I should have been a psychologist. I'm telling you I'm
in their head right now. And there are women that
are listening to me right now that are like, how
are you so in my head?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
I tell you. Grow up in New York City. I
know plenty of women who don't like the guy that
divorces the first wife for like the younger, sexier, you
know model, so to speak, the next time around. But
you know what, we're a big country with big boy ideas,
and like we got other things to think about it.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
I will say, in Trump's defense, he married and had
kids with those women. I think the porn star is
the bigger issue for him, which is why it's lingered
and why they focused on it. But my point is,
if they can tell you that Trump's sleeping with a
porn star allegedly in any playoff playmate by the way, allegedly, yeah,
(29:42):
allegedly in two thousand and six or whatever year it was,
and they can make it a story for nine years,
it seems fair to make Kamala Harris sleeping with Willie
Brown while he was married. She was twenty nine, he
was sixty a story for four months. That seems fair, Kathy,
and since but we got all Ohio is riled up
(30:03):
about this story. If nobody else is Kathy. Sorry, Cali
in Cincinnati, CALLI what do you think?
Speaker 10 (30:11):
Hi me there? Sadly, I have to say, I don't
think suburban housewives, flush moms are gonna care. They are
still concerned about Trump's mean tweets and they are still
focused on that. And when I'm talking to these women,
I try to drive home. I tried to talk about policy,
and even in Cincinnati, Ohio, they don't know what's going
(30:34):
on in spring Grow, Ohio, just north of Cincinnati with
the Haitian migrants and whatnot. So it's not on the news,
it's not in front of them, so they still just
think Trump is mean.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Thank you for the call, Cali. You know who just
wait in. Laura Travis via text Buck is so wrong.
Laura never agrees with me, with me on anything, she says.
I'm gonna read my wife's text. I know at least
three women who have said out loud to me they
would never vote for Trump because they just don't trust
him and think he's kind of sleazy. If they know
(31:07):
Kamala is also sleazy, it forces them to make a
decision on an actual issue rather than just voting emotionally.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
She may say it better than me. You disagreement is
so often a paragona virtue. Her movie choices are world class,
and whenever she tells you that you are wrong, Clay,
she is spot on.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Which is basically all the time. She never agrees with
me on anything. So that's why I had to read
that text message. She's out driving right now. She keeps
claymation in the cage, you know what I mean. She
doesn't let him get too crazy out there. But I
just man, if it were recent stuff, I'd be a
little bit more willing to believe the line of argument
that is going to matter in this election. I feel
(31:47):
like I feel like this is on the list of
things that people are thinking about when they're casting their ballots.
I think the Kamala Willie Brown thing doesn't I don't
think it makes the top twenty five. It might not
make the top fift for most rational people. I think
that's true. But much of the opposition to Trump is
rooted in emotion, not logic, and so if you can
(32:10):
point out something that is emotionally flawed with another emotional flaw,
it sometimes forces people to go back and reconsider it.
But by the way, we're only talking in theory about
like six hundred thousand people in three hundred and thirty
million that are still out there right now undecided about
(32:30):
how they're going to vote. That's kind of crazy in
and of itself, right, I mean, we're talking about point
five percent of the population at most.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
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ones where you tell me that I'm right and Clay
is wrong, because those are the best calls. We'll get
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we're going to be joined by Warren Davidson. He is
a congressman who is representing the state of Ohio near
all of this craziness associated with Springfield, Ohio and all
(35:24):
of the stories that we played for you yesterday that
continue to echo. We will ask him what he has
seen in the third hour. But top of the next
hour debate is here. It's going to start in what
about seven hours from now. Trump's team, some of them
might well be listening. What advice would you give peak
(35:47):
performance advice for Trump? I've got a couple of ideas.
I bet you have a couple of ideas.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Buck.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
We will lay out the debate to come, what we
expect from the moderators, and how we anticipate it's all
going to go when we come back.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Third hour, final hour before the debate. Corinn in Utah,
we got fifty seconds. Wanted to get you in. What's up?
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (36:09):
I agree with Buck, And here's my reason. You have
a lot of women out there that are single issue voters.
They simply want to see a woman in the White House,
and a lot of them are going to justify it
in their mind. Turn about is fair play whatever you
got to do to get ahead. And it's kind of
like a lot of people believe that it's okay to
(36:30):
be racist against twice because we've been racist against blacks
for so long.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
One ill does not cure another ill. But I certainly
understand that argument. By the way, am I racist? I
mentioned earlier? Really good documentary Matt Walsh. It's out this weekend.
I think you guys will enjoy it when we come back.
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