December 16, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show delivers an intense analysis of global terrorism, political correctness, and security failures following the Bondi Beach terror attack in Australia. Buck Sexton, hosting solo, breaks down why this massacre—where 15 people were killed during a Hanukkah celebration—was clearly an act of radical Islamic jihadism, not a gun-control issue. He exposes the absurdity of proposed tougher gun laws in New South Wales, arguing that the real threat lies in extremist ideology, not firearms. Buck emphasizes that terrorists can kill with knives, vehicles, or bombs, making gun bans ineffective and dangerous for law-abiding citizens.
The hour explores the police response failures during the Bondi attack, highlighting video evidence of officers—particularly female officers—struggling to subdue armed attackers under restrictive use-of-force policies. Buck calls for an honest conversation about physical realities in law enforcement and the dangers of politically driven policing standards. Buck also investigates the attackers’ training links to jihadist networks in the southern Philippines, including ISIS affiliates like Abu Sayyaf and BIFF. He explains how these terror groups provide ideological indoctrination and tactical skills, drawing parallels to patterns seen in past plots against U.S. targets. This segment underscores the resurgence of radical Islam and the global spread of jihadist ideology.
The discussion pivots to political correctness and its role in enabling extremism, with Buck and callers condemning Western governments for appeasement and weakness. He cites Benjamin Netanyahu’s scathing criticism of Australia’s Prime Minister for failing to curb antisemitism and contrasts that with Senator John Fetterman’s surprising moral clarity in calling out the “rot” within the Democratic Party over anti-Israel rhetoric. Buck argues that the left’s obsession with Islamophobia narratives blinds them to the real threat of jihadist violence.
Listeners weigh in on gun buyback programs, which Buck labels “compensated confiscation,” and caller Jacqueline warns that political correctness fuels radical Islamist violence worldwide. Buck reinforces that mass delusion—not climate change or nuclear war—is humanity’s greatest threat, previewing themes from his upcoming book Manufacturing Delusion.
The hour closes with Buck addressing growing media fixation on Trump’s comments about Rob Reiner, noting how the press weaponizes outrage while ignoring violence against conservatives. He promises deeper analysis and Trump’s latest Oval Office remarks in Hour 3.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome into the second hour of the Claye Travis and
Buck Sexton Show. So first hour we did a deep
dive into the Brown University shooting and how indicators are
looking like this is a political assassination and there are
things pointing in the direction of an Islamist Jihattist ideology
(00:26):
behind it that is not confirmed. That is just where
the facts currently are pointing. Could change, just like how
they arrested the wrong suspect and the guy had nothing
to do with it. Right, things change, we tell you,
But we already know for sure that the Bondai Beach attack,
which occurred over the weekend, I believe fifteen were killed
(00:48):
in that the Bondai Beach attack was definitely jihadism, definitely
Islamic radicalism. One thing that's always interesting to note about
Islamic radicals, they don't think that they're radicals. They just
think they're the real ones, the real Muslims. They always
say it. In fact, they and al Qaeda did this,
(01:10):
has done this a number of times. And this really
came to prominence in the earlier phase of the g
WATT the Global War on Terror, when Abu Musab al
Zarkawi and Aqi al Qaeda in Iraq, which actually broke
away from al Qaeda proper, and al Qaeda thought that
AQI was being too violent believe it or not toward
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Muslims because Zarkawi was a psychopath, I mean, he was
a sadist, and there was a sense that they were
killing too many non belief sorry, too many Muslims who
were just not good enough Muslims. This is the tough
theory doctrine, you know, so you are cast out if
(01:53):
you are tough feared. So we've seen we've seen that
before as well. Here in this case, you have these
Muslims attacking Jews, and that is not, unfortunately a surprise
or a rarity in these kinds of attacks target and
(02:15):
Jews at a Honka celebration, and it is very obvious
these guys had Isis flags at home as a father
and son team. The father was killed, the son is
in the hospital with wounds. It was a father and
son team. They wanted to kill as many people as possible.
I have a few things I want to talk about
(02:36):
with this. One is the police response, and then also
a little bit about the training and possible support that
these guys got. But the police response was abysmal. The
police station was close, police station was not far away
at all, and police were able to get there very quickly.
(02:57):
The problem is the police were useless. At least some
of the police who arrived, a number of them on
video unfortunately caught on video for them were female officers
who were completely useless and did nothing. You know, this
is where there's a whole conversation to be had about
the role of women in law enforcement. Now, there are
(03:20):
some great female cops out there, I get it. I
don't want you all calling in right now and yelling
at me. But in an era where we are increasingly
told that cops are not allowed to use lethal force
except in the most clear cut circumstances, but have to
use force meaning wrestle, meaning you know, use their arms
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and maybe their knees to do takedowns and stuff, women
are at a disadvantage. It's just true. It's obvious women
are at a disadvantage. And if I'm a bad guy
and a female, you know, and a guy gets out
of the car and then a woman gets out of
the car, I know which one I'm going to try
to wrestle and maybe get a gun from first. Obviously,
(04:05):
can we just speak about these things as though we
all know what's going on because that's what's happening. So
that is true, doesn't mean that there's not a role
for them in a law enforcement I'm not saying that.
I'm just saying we need to stop living in this
fantasy that is pushed on us by the media and
by Hollywood, where one hundred and twenty pound women with
the right you know, jiu jitsu lock are gonna be
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able to wrestle no false wrong. They can shoot somebody,
for sure. You have a much better chance of arguing
of telling me, well, look, they can shoot. Just by
the way, there are a lot of women who shoot
the flies off off a gnat at one hundred yards,
way better shots than me. I'm not a great shot
at all. I'm not disparaging women's ability to shoot it all.
But I'm just saying, if you're telling people in law enforcement,
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don't shoot unless you have absolutely no choice, you got
to try to wrestle the suspect. You've got to try
to get the knife out of his hand. Yet women
are at a disadvantage, at a disadvantage just the way
it is. And to notice how for some of you
that's gonna and maybe even some of the female law
enforcement listening that might trigger people a little bit. That
might be a little it's true. We have to say
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what's true. This is obvious. Just like I was saying
in the last hour, Radical Islam is the biggest problem
when it comes to terrorism and people trying to undermine
civilization through violence and a theocratic totalitarianism, by far the
biggest problem in the world of that type. Nothing else
even close. So again we say the things that we
(05:36):
know to be true. So the police response was abysmal,
and now they're saying that they're going to get this
is the New South Wales premiere. That's a state in
province I guess, or whatever they call them. They're in
Australia saying they're going to get the toughest gun laws
play twenty nine. Please do we have cut twenty nine.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Our approach to this terrible crime in New South Wales
is multifaceted, but I want to make it clear that
our efforts to firstly work with the New South Wales
Police on counter terrorism efforts continue. Secondly, fighting anti Semitism
in our community, which will not be done in a
week or a month but it is a long term important
project for the Government of New South Wales working with
(06:26):
civic leaders and the people of this state. Thirdly, gun
law reform in New South Wales, with legislation brought into
the New South Wales Parliament to make gun laws tougher
in this state. I'm determined to bring in the toughest
gun laws in Australia and they'll be significantly tightened in
New South Wales.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
How are you going to tighten? How are you going
to make gun laws tougher? Someone explain that to me,
and how would that have stopped this? There are millions
of guns in circulation currently in Australia. You're going to
do another buyback, a buyback that resulted in even more
guns in circulation. This is an absurdity. And if you're
(07:09):
wondering how absurd it is, think about this. It's not
like these guys couldn't have pulled this off, or even
something far worse without guns at all. The problem is
the person, Okay, the problem is the terrorist. The Israelis
have understood this for a long time with their security practices.
It's not about a tool. A gun is a tool.
(07:30):
The problem is somebody who thinks to himself, I'm going
to find people of a religion that I hate because
I've largely been trained by my culture and my ideology
to hate them, and I'm going to try to get
them when they are absolutely helpless and when they're supposed
to be having joy and be with family, and I'm
going to murder as many of them as possible, because
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I have convinced myself, in some demonic inversion of morality,
that that is a righteous thing to do. That the
problem is that person, right, The problem is that jihattist
in this instance, and they could have done this very
very much using vehicles, and that has been done in
(08:13):
the past with far worse casualties than what we saw here.
I might add, so what are you gonna do. You're
gonna have car You're gonna have further car restrictions, You're
gonna have these gun restrictions. They could build a bomb,
or they could do what they've done in the UK
and so many other places, run around stabbing people. You
get somebody who you know is crazy enough and gets
a big kitchen knife, they can kill ten people before
(08:35):
the cops can do anything about it. And that's with
a knife in the UK, they're so silly, so unseerious
on security matters that they're talking about banning knives. That's great.
Everyone's gonna be sitting there, you know, chopping up their
steak with spoons. We can't make these kinds of concessions
to the barbarians. We can't decide that our own society
(08:56):
doesn't get And this brings me right into the Second Amendment.
In this country, the bad people, the demons, don't get
to decide how I live my life or how I
defend myself. They don't. They don't get that vote. And unfortunately,
in Australia it seems increasing that they want to give
the demons that vote. They want to give the evildoers
that capability. Now, these guys, it seems also very likely
(09:23):
were trained up by a Jihadis group. Some of you
saw there's video making the rounds. The guy does maneuver
his you know, he maneuvers and the reloading of his
rifle with with some some efficiency. This isn't like ninja stuff.
It doesn't take years and years of practice. You know,
you get enough time out on a range, anybody can
learn to reload and fire a rifle, especially innocent old
(09:45):
ladies and kids walking around. This isn't this isn't something
that requires some hard to come by skill set. But
you're gonna see more about this. It looks like these
guys trained in the Southern Philippines. That brings us to
yet another realm of jihadism. Separate then separate from the
(10:11):
Moro Islamic Liberation Front. People will probably talk about that
because it's the m i LF. Yes, the MILF terrorist group.
The MILF had a essentially a negotiated end with the
Philippine government, so it's actually offshoots of the MILF. The
(10:34):
MILF was about a separate It is really a separatist
group more than anything else. The ones that you have
to look for now are the Islamic State affiliate in
the area, the Abu Sayf group. They've been doing terrible
things for a long time. The Bangsamoro Islamic Freedom Fighters
the BIFF, their breakaway from the MILF. So there are
(10:57):
these jihadist entities that operate in the Southern Philippines. So
that is that is where these guys had traveled recently.
According to Australian police, spent most of November in the Philippines.
This has been confirmed by the way quote. It remains
unclear what they were doing there. I don't think it's
(11:21):
going to be that unclear for long. Their final destination
was Devow, a city on the southern island of mind Now.
Isis troops held the siege in a different city on
mind Now in twenty seventeen. This is a hotbed of
Islamic radicalism. I can tell you that when we used
(11:44):
to do the sea counter terrorism work in New York,
a lot of the bad guys who wanted to blow
up the subways or blow up a synagogue, and those
are usually what the plots are, just kill a lot
of people in Central Park or Times Square. They interestingly,
you know, I've spent some time in either Pakistan's tribal
areas or Yemen, which is basically one giant tribal area
(12:05):
before they engaged in their attack, and then we would
find out, oh, they were trained, and they got spiritual sanctioning,
they got ideological uh affirmation if you will, from those
Jihatis in there, and the blessing of that jihadist group
to go kill a bunch of innocent people. So another instance,
(12:27):
another instance where we have Jie Hottish terrorism, and the
left doesn't want to talk about it. The left doesn't
want to talk about it. They want to make this,
but they want to make it about the guns. It's
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here to play and Buck. I also think it's worth
noting because I had asked this question of the il
Exstein yesterday of IFCJ when she was on with US,
how's Australia doing with the radicalism in its midst? And
(14:20):
I asked it with look, I can't pay attention to
every Western countries. You know details of their counter terrorism
operations and programs day to day. You could do a
whole career just doing this for one country. But I
had a feeling based on the leftward tilt of Australia,
particularly after COVID. I've never been able to think of
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Australia the same way. After that that they just went
completely insane and we're all on board, and there was
like barely a peep of protest out of anybody there.
Total waste, total waste. We're all still paying the price
for it, by the way, in so many ways. But
then Yahoo said so I had a feeling that they
were bad at dealing with the jihadism in their midst.
(15:04):
But here's Benjamin n Yaho's saying that the Australian Prime
minister has stunk when it comes to standing up to
anti semitism. Play twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Now.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
About four months ago, I sent Prime Minister Albanize of
Australia a letter in which I gave him warning that
the Australian government's policy was promoting and encouraging antisemitism in Australia. Instead,
Prime Minister, you replaced weakness with weakness, and appeasement with
(15:32):
more appeasement. Your government did nothing to stop the spread
of anti Semitism in Australia. You did nothing to curb
the cancer cells that were growing inside your country. You
took no action, You let the disease spread, and the
result is the orific attacks on Jews we saw today.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
He's really calling out that Australian Prime Minister on this one.
So I think there's something too that because he was
met Yahoo is not holding back at all. Also, someone
else calling out the anti Israel left a voice that
you've heard do this many times. And as I've said,
(16:13):
I freely admit this my analysis of Fetterman, I underestimated
this guy. I know he's bad on some issue still,
or I should say I disagree with him on some
issues still, but he has showed some backbone and a
lot more moral clarity certainly on this than ninety something
percent of Democrats out there. Here he is talking about
(16:37):
the rot, the Jihattist rot within the Democrat Party play thirty.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Mainstream outlets like The New York Times is constantly CONSTI
get a strong anti Israel views on those things and
other media as well to call it what it is,
and now here in my own party, I've been incredibly disappointed,
you know, and people are trying to pretend these kinds
of words and turns like you know, from the River
(17:01):
to the Sea, or to globalize the Infatada and all
those other things.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
We all know what this means. And I refuse to
pander to that.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
And now for for me, it's been a rot, you know,
within the American left and within my party.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
He's totally right. It is a rot with a Democrat party.
And I give him full credit for calling it out.
Like I was saying before, if you're a radical Muslim,
who are you voting for? A Democrat? If you're a
radical Muslim member of Congress, which party you in? Democrat?
Really it's interesting, isn't it. The Democrat Party is the
wide open tent, the large and expansive home for any
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to Clay Travis and Buck Sexton, and play is out today.
He's attending a funeral his uncle passed away sadly, so
he'll be back with us tomorrow. I want to get
(19:06):
some of your calls here. Caller Jeff in Pennsylvania wants
to talk gun buybacks. What's up, Jeff?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Hi? Yes, I wanted to talk gun buyback. I heard
you the other day refer to the buyback programs, and
what they actually are is compensated confiscation. The government never
undoes guns. They were made by private manufacturers, sold through
licensed dealers, and bought by individuals. So any of these
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programs like they've had in Australia in the UK, they're
compensated confiscation. And we've had some programs in big cities
here in the US, but they've all been voluntary, thank goodness.
So it's just a point to bring up that this
is part of the let's not blaming the individual for
the evil they perform, and they're blaming the gun and
they think if they get rid of it through these
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confiscation programs, that will solve their problems.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Jeff, I completely agree with you. I've always disliked this.
I was trying to think of a better term for it.
Actually when we brought up the other day, you're right,
it is not a buyback because you can't buy back
something that was never yours, and so it's really a lie.
And so I agree with you. It's a bit like
calling somebody undocumented. No, they have documents, they just don't
have citizenship for America documents, right, I mean this is
(20:22):
this is a misdirection at best. So you're completely correct.
I agree with everything you said, and I think it's
an excellent point. Thank you for calling in. Yeah, the
buyback thing is will give you what we determine as
fair market value for your gun, or you go to prison.
I remember when they outlawed after the new Town School shooting,
(20:48):
when they outlawed AR fifteen's essentially in the state of California,
I mean sorry, state of Connecticut. They had this like
you have to turn They had some period you had
to turn in your AR fifteen and it was probably
more like your semi automatic rifle with the scary characteristics
of a stock and things like that, or immovable stock.
But you had to turn these guns. And there were
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some analysis of I don't know, there were fifty to
one hundred thousand of these guns in the state of
keep say, in California, I'm sorry, state of Connecticut, in circulation,
and almost nobody turned them manti fire call. So technically
there are a lot of people walking around who who
Connecticut had made felons. I don't what purpose does that
possibly serve? Plus the guy, the horrific school shooter there
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stole it from lawful gun owners, right, didn't He didn't
he like get into the gun safe for something that
belonged to his parents. He stole I mean, or he
took guns that belonged to somebody else. So anyway, Uh, Chuck,
and Tampa wants to talk. What's up? Chuck? Oh, he dropped,
Jacqueline and Brooklyn wants to talk. What's up? Jacqueline?
Speaker 6 (21:51):
Hi? Buck, You know, I know you understand this, and
I know many of you listeners understand this, but it
bears repeating. A lot of what is going on with
these radical Islamists is a direct result of political correctness.
We've seen it not only here in this country in
the United States, it has been prevalent and spreading like
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wildfire throughout the European countries like France and also the
United Kingdom and now Australia. So it's not going to stop.
To hold the cliche holds true. You cannot coexist with
he who wants you dead. They kill their own people,
as you correctly pointed out, if you're not Muslim enough,
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they kill them also. So there's no way around this.
And I want to say, I'm sorry to hear about
Clay's uncle, But the only reason I'm now listening is
because Clay is not there because he threw Curtis under
the bus regarding the mayoral election in New York. So
I'm glad to be listening to you today.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Well, I hope you will come back because we would
love to have you listening again, and Clay wants you
back to But thank you very much for thank you
very much are calling in. I would just say, yeah,
this is the toch fury belief is when you can
think about this, you get to declare another Muslim, a
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non Muslim, a kaff here and a past state so
that you can kill them under Islamic law. This is
central jihadist principle. And so and there sometimes is a
little bit of well they can be it's because they're
collaborators we can kill them, or because they're not only
do stuff, or hey, if they die, they're martyrs so
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they get to go to heaven with all the virgins too.
This is really what these Jihatas believe. This is what
they tell themselves. It is a delusion. Again, when I
talk about in my book, this is why delusions are
so scary. Why mass delusions are the biggest threat to humanity.
It's not climate change, it's not nuclear winter. It is
mass delusion that is the single biggest threat to humanity.
And that is why Manufacturing Delusion my book. You should
(23:57):
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your home. That is pub day. All right, So thank
you for those Thank you very much for those calls.
So do we have this uh oh the audio. Oh
that's a shame they found this story. It's buck sex
(24:18):
and clashes with academic over radical Islam. This was a
great one. They are, in fact coming after us. I said,
this is great. We can't we can't find the audio
right now. I'll take you back to it, though. So
this is the way that the CNN, the CNN commentary
would operate when there's an incident, like a horrible terrorist attack.
(24:40):
I was there on their desk, and they I was
one of the best. I mean, I was actually the
best that they had at doing this. Just gonna be
honest with you. There are other plays. There are some
really good national security analysts that you will see on
Fox and I mean as practitioners, very you know, very smart.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
You know.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Steve Yates is on Fox a lot, you guys know,
I love him. He's a brilliant guys at Heritage Foundation.
Jim carrafinals at Heritage He's another super smart guy. He's
a friend of mine.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
Me.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
I go to them like, there are General Jack Keene.
I don't want to I start naming people. Then I
want to name twenty other people. But Fox has some
very good national like like top tier national security analysts.
When I used to go on CNN and the terrorism
analysts that they would have, I'm like, who they get
some professor for some college, like nobody's ever heard of.
Speaker 7 (25:26):
It was like, I don't I don't like all the
Islamophobia in this conversation.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
I mean, you know, I don't know where this lady
came from. You get some guy who is like an
Air Force no offense Air Force Air Force lieutenant colonel
in the nineties or something, it's like, oh, let me
tell you what's going on in Syria today. It's like,
what are you, buddy, He's got off the golf course
at one of your Air Force bases. Come on, but boom,
So you know, I sit here and I say to myself,
(25:54):
CNN has all these crazies, has all these crazies that
are going on. There's a This was the the nice
attack of Nice, France, Bastille Day right there, Bastille Day,
Bastille Day, if you're in America. And they, guys, how
I think it was eighty something died in that attack.
(26:15):
And it was a truck that just found the most
crowded areas where people were out celebrating the holiday, beautiful
south of France, just crushing people, mowing people down in
this truck, no gun truck. And I'm telling you, if
we can find the audio, we'll play it for you.
It's guys, check media eyed. I'm sure it was up
on media eye. Okay, they got it, they got it.
(26:39):
It's big. I knew you guys, if you guys never
let me down. I knew you'd find this one. But
I had some you know, he right in my you know,
in my ear about labout radically. I mean, we we're
talking about his labophobia. I'm like, lady, who are you like, well,
what do you know about anything? You're not if you've
been within one hundred miles of an actual Islamic radical
(26:59):
in alb wrote a book, Get Out of Here, Get
Out of Here. But I was the only one that
night who went on and was like, you know, I
think the terrorists of the problem. That was a radical
concept at CNN at that time. This is twenty sixteen
to go on CNN and say I think the Islamic
terrorist is the person that we should really focus on
(27:21):
here as the issue, and not our inability to assimilate
Muslims in Europe specifically. That was what the gist of
the conversation was. So you people are just crazy. You know,
they're trying to destroy our civilization. They're trying to kill
us and trying to ruin our day to day lives.
I mean, think of I always have to point this
out to everybody too. They'll do this thing and it
(27:45):
drives me nuts, and I hate this. You'll get like
Ezra Cline and some of these supposed intellectuals in the left,
and they're just honestly, you have to have some wisdom
and some virtue as a person to be really smart.
In my eyes, it can't just be high IQ. There
are a lot of high IQ people who make terrible decisions,
who are on the wrong side of the most importantation
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that doesn't there's a difference. There's a difference between high
cognition and wisdom. There's a difference between high cognition and
having the right answers, knowing what should be done, huge difference,
as you know, in these things and the left on
this stuff, they're alway, they're just always wrong. It's just
so pathetic. They're always wrong. And you know that they'll
(28:27):
they'll make these arguments that are that are absurd, they'll
make these arguments that it's always about our Islamophobia, and
you never stop, you never stop to say, hold on
a second, if assimilation is the problem, are they working
hard to assimilate too, or you know, why is it
our fault? If we're going to pretend that the issue
here is the lack of assimilation of the Muslim minority
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in these countries, why does that inherently fall on us?
Do you think that when Irish and German and other
immigrant Jews came from from Poland and from the from
Russian the Russian step, I mean, they fled and came
to America. Do you think that when they arrived there
was this expectation, well, first of all, that we were
going to give them all welfare and pay for everything.
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And two that you know it wasn't on them to
figure it out. We were supposed to figure it out
for them.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
No.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
I always just think this stuff is well once you
get down to the roots of the argument. There are
people who are just rooting against us, our way of life,
our freedoms. It's true there are people who really root
for the other team in all of this, and they
can't see that, but that is the end result of
where they stand on this stuff. And when you're talking
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about terrorism, specifically radical Islamic terrorism, oh oh but sorry,
the other thing I was gonna say, See, I could
do this stuff all I haven't. I get to put
my terrorism hat on here for or counter terrorism, my
terrorist analysis had on here, which is really what This
is why Glenn Beck hired me initially at the Blaze,
to his enormous credit, I must say, because I sat
(29:59):
down with him at his office in the Blaze, which
was empty at the time. Basically they were just beginning
the Blaze and Glenn sat down and he started asking
me little questions, a little bit of this, a little
bit of that in the Middle East, and I was
at that point so dialed in I was like an encyclopedia.
I'm not gonna lie. I was, and Glenn was like,
let's hire this kid. Good for him, by the way,
thank you Glenn. You know, for somebody to in one
(30:21):
meeting decide that he's gonna roll the dice and give
me a career. But it was these issues that I
really knew. But people talk about the whether it's the most,
it's Islamic terrors and we have to worry about the most,
or these other these other things. I'll say it's white nationalism,
you know, the the real problem is all the white
nationalists in this country. As if you know, we're we're
(30:43):
worried when we're when we're going into the Like I say,
when I go to Tsa, we worried about some you know,
skinhead with like neo Nazi tattoos getting on the planet.
Give me a break. We all know what we're worried about. Okay,
we're all very aware of that. But that goes to
my point of the entire terrorist counter terrorist apparatus in
America has been overwhelmingly until January sixth, and the FBI
(31:04):
had to track down old ladies and their fanny packs
for taking a selfie in the Capitol. The whole counter
terrorism and apparatus has been devoted toward stopping radical Islam.
So we've spent trillions of dollars to prevent more nine
to elevens, to prevent the spread of this stuff. And
there were a lot of other plots and a lot
of other attacks that didn't happen, And now those ones
(31:28):
never really get seered into our memory for obvious reasons,
the way that the successful, even smaller scale attacks to.
But we have had this massive expenditure for over twenty
years to stop people from going Allahu walk bar and
hitting the plunger on a suicide fest, to stop people
from saying Allahu walk Bar and mowing down a bunch
of people who are at a Honika celebration in Australia,
(31:49):
to stop people from go down the list all these things,
And you go over to New York Times, you go
you click on vox if that's even still a thing.
You go to the Huffing the Post, and you know
what they want to tell you.
Speaker 7 (31:59):
The real problem is sovereign citizens, white nationalists. That's the
real terrorism threat. Truly delusional people are delusional all right.
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news cycle or that are just out there in the media,
(34:27):
and only people who care about what are stuff, or
that are that are as involved as you are and
I are, would pay pay attention to excuse me again,
cold uh. But then there's the stuff that makes its
way outward where the so called normis or the everyday
(34:48):
people who aren't as into politics and the news as
you are and I am. And I'm getting a lot
of people that want to ask me, you know, what
do you think about what Trump said about h Rob
Ryaner's murder. It's clearly murdered him and his wife. And
one thing I really don't like is being asked This
(35:08):
happened to be a couple of times the last twenty
four hours. I don't like being asked to speak for
someone else who speaks quite clearly for themselves. You know,
I've had people do this as well, and I'm not
so I don't. I don't like know Tucker super well,
for example, I'm always got along with Tucker. You know,
(35:29):
he was always very very kind to my wife when
she worked on a show years ago. But they'll say,
you know, old did you you know Tucker said this?
What do you think Tucker says what he says? I
say what I say. I'm not I'm not in the
I don't have to sit here and play. The media
loves that that that live. Media loves this game, and
they're really getting into really attacking people here, or rather
(35:54):
pushing people to attack Trump on this Rob Ryer thing.
But I want to take this from a little bit
of a different direction. I want to remind everybody of
what the current atmosphere is for what is considered acceptable
discourse when there's violence against a conservative. Now, it's not
to say that what Trump said is what I said
(36:14):
what I wanted to say about the Rob Ryners stuff yesterday,
But there's more now. They're clearly trying to make this
the big story, the big issue. So I will spend
some time on it. I will also bring you some
of the latest comments from Trump, including the Oval office yesterday.
So we are going to have a stacked third hour,
my friends. This show is rolling along. I'm going to
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and try to address my vocal cords, and we will
come back in the third There we go, come back
in the third hour. We'll hang out.
Welcome into the second hour of the Claye Travis and
Buck Sexton Show. So first hour we did a deep
dive into the Brown University shooting and how indicators are
looking like this is a political assassination and there are
things pointing in the direction of an Islamist Jihattist ideology
(00:26):
behind it that is not confirmed. That is just where
the facts currently are pointing. Could change, just like how
they arrested the wrong suspect and the guy had nothing
to do with it. Right, things change, we tell you,
But we already know for sure that the Bondai Beach attack,
which occurred over the weekend, I believe fifteen were killed
(00:48):
in that the Bondai Beach attack was definitely jihadism, definitely
Islamic radicalism. One thing that's always interesting to note about
Islamic radicals, they don't think that they're radicals. They just
think they're the real ones, the real Muslims. They always
say it. In fact, they and al Qaeda did this,
(01:10):
has done this a number of times. And this really
came to prominence in the earlier phase of the g
WATT the Global War on Terror, when Abu Musab al
Zarkawi and Aqi al Qaeda in Iraq, which actually broke
away from al Qaeda proper, and al Qaeda thought that
AQI was being too violent believe it or not toward
(01:33):
Muslims because Zarkawi was a psychopath, I mean, he was
a sadist, and there was a sense that they were
killing too many non belief sorry, too many Muslims who
were just not good enough Muslims. This is the tough
theory doctrine, you know, so you are cast out if
(01:53):
you are tough feared. So we've seen we've seen that
before as well. Here in this case, you have these
Muslims attacking Jews, and that is not, unfortunately a surprise
or a rarity in these kinds of attacks target and
(02:15):
Jews at a Honka celebration, and it is very obvious
these guys had Isis flags at home as a father
and son team. The father was killed, the son is
in the hospital with wounds. It was a father and
son team. They wanted to kill as many people as possible.
I have a few things I want to talk about
(02:36):
with this. One is the police response, and then also
a little bit about the training and possible support that
these guys got. But the police response was abysmal. The
police station was close, police station was not far away
at all, and police were able to get there very quickly.
(02:57):
The problem is the police were useless. At least some
of the police who arrived, a number of them on
video unfortunately caught on video for them were female officers
who were completely useless and did nothing. You know, this
is where there's a whole conversation to be had about
the role of women in law enforcement. Now, there are
(03:20):
some great female cops out there, I get it. I
don't want you all calling in right now and yelling
at me. But in an era where we are increasingly
told that cops are not allowed to use lethal force
except in the most clear cut circumstances, but have to
use force meaning wrestle, meaning you know, use their arms
(03:42):
and maybe their knees to do takedowns and stuff, women
are at a disadvantage. It's just true. It's obvious women
are at a disadvantage. And if I'm a bad guy
and a female, you know, and a guy gets out
of the car and then a woman gets out of
the car, I know which one I'm going to try
to wrestle and maybe get a gun from first. Obviously,
(04:05):
can we just speak about these things as though we
all know what's going on because that's what's happening. So
that is true, doesn't mean that there's not a role
for them in a law enforcement I'm not saying that.
I'm just saying we need to stop living in this
fantasy that is pushed on us by the media and
by Hollywood, where one hundred and twenty pound women with
the right you know, jiu jitsu lock are gonna be
(04:28):
able to wrestle no false wrong. They can shoot somebody,
for sure. You have a much better chance of arguing
of telling me, well, look, they can shoot. Just by
the way, there are a lot of women who shoot
the flies off off a gnat at one hundred yards,
way better shots than me. I'm not a great shot
at all. I'm not disparaging women's ability to shoot it all.
But I'm just saying, if you're telling people in law enforcement,
(04:51):
don't shoot unless you have absolutely no choice, you got
to try to wrestle the suspect. You've got to try
to get the knife out of his hand. Yet women
are at a disadvantage, at a disadvantage just the way
it is. And to notice how for some of you
that's gonna and maybe even some of the female law
enforcement listening that might trigger people a little bit. That
might be a little it's true. We have to say
(05:13):
what's true. This is obvious. Just like I was saying
in the last hour, Radical Islam is the biggest problem
when it comes to terrorism and people trying to undermine
civilization through violence and a theocratic totalitarianism, by far the
biggest problem in the world of that type. Nothing else
even close. So again we say the things that we
(05:36):
know to be true. So the police response was abysmal,
and now they're saying that they're going to get this
is the New South Wales premiere. That's a state in
province I guess, or whatever they call them. They're in
Australia saying they're going to get the toughest gun laws
play twenty nine. Please do we have cut twenty nine.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Our approach to this terrible crime in New South Wales
is multifaceted, but I want to make it clear that
our efforts to firstly work with the New South Wales
Police on counter terrorism efforts continue. Secondly, fighting anti Semitism
in our community, which will not be done in a
week or a month but it is a long term important
project for the Government of New South Wales working with
(06:26):
civic leaders and the people of this state. Thirdly, gun
law reform in New South Wales, with legislation brought into
the New South Wales Parliament to make gun laws tougher
in this state. I'm determined to bring in the toughest
gun laws in Australia and they'll be significantly tightened in
New South Wales.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
How are you going to tighten? How are you going
to make gun laws tougher? Someone explain that to me,
and how would that have stopped this? There are millions
of guns in circulation currently in Australia. You're going to
do another buyback, a buyback that resulted in even more
guns in circulation. This is an absurdity. And if you're
(07:09):
wondering how absurd it is, think about this. It's not
like these guys couldn't have pulled this off, or even
something far worse without guns at all. The problem is
the person, Okay, the problem is the terrorist. The Israelis
have understood this for a long time with their security practices.
It's not about a tool. A gun is a tool.
(07:30):
The problem is somebody who thinks to himself, I'm going
to find people of a religion that I hate because
I've largely been trained by my culture and my ideology
to hate them, and I'm going to try to get
them when they are absolutely helpless and when they're supposed
to be having joy and be with family, and I'm
going to murder as many of them as possible, because
(07:51):
I have convinced myself, in some demonic inversion of morality,
that that is a righteous thing to do. That the
problem is that person, right, The problem is that jihattist
in this instance, and they could have done this very
very much using vehicles, and that has been done in
(08:13):
the past with far worse casualties than what we saw here.
I might add, so what are you gonna do. You're
gonna have car You're gonna have further car restrictions, You're
gonna have these gun restrictions. They could build a bomb,
or they could do what they've done in the UK
and so many other places, run around stabbing people. You
get somebody who you know is crazy enough and gets
a big kitchen knife, they can kill ten people before
(08:35):
the cops can do anything about it. And that's with
a knife in the UK, they're so silly, so unseerious
on security matters that they're talking about banning knives. That's great.
Everyone's gonna be sitting there, you know, chopping up their
steak with spoons. We can't make these kinds of concessions
to the barbarians. We can't decide that our own society
(08:56):
doesn't get And this brings me right into the Second Amendment.
In this country, the bad people, the demons, don't get
to decide how I live my life or how I
defend myself. They don't. They don't get that vote. And unfortunately,
in Australia it seems increasing that they want to give
the demons that vote. They want to give the evildoers
that capability. Now, these guys, it seems also very likely
(09:23):
were trained up by a Jihadis group. Some of you
saw there's video making the rounds. The guy does maneuver
his you know, he maneuvers and the reloading of his
rifle with with some some efficiency. This isn't like ninja stuff.
It doesn't take years and years of practice. You know,
you get enough time out on a range, anybody can
learn to reload and fire a rifle, especially innocent old
(09:45):
ladies and kids walking around. This isn't this isn't something
that requires some hard to come by skill set. But
you're gonna see more about this. It looks like these
guys trained in the Southern Philippines. That brings us to
yet another realm of jihadism. Separate then separate from the
(10:11):
Moro Islamic Liberation Front. People will probably talk about that
because it's the m i LF. Yes, the MILF terrorist group.
The MILF had a essentially a negotiated end with the
Philippine government, so it's actually offshoots of the MILF. The
(10:34):
MILF was about a separate It is really a separatist
group more than anything else. The ones that you have
to look for now are the Islamic State affiliate in
the area, the Abu Sayf group. They've been doing terrible
things for a long time. The Bangsamoro Islamic Freedom Fighters
the BIFF, their breakaway from the MILF. So there are
(10:57):
these jihadist entities that operate in the Southern Philippines. So
that is that is where these guys had traveled recently.
According to Australian police, spent most of November in the Philippines.
This has been confirmed by the way quote. It remains
unclear what they were doing there. I don't think it's
(11:21):
going to be that unclear for long. Their final destination
was Devow, a city on the southern island of mind Now.
Isis troops held the siege in a different city on
mind Now in twenty seventeen. This is a hotbed of
Islamic radicalism. I can tell you that when we used
(11:44):
to do the sea counter terrorism work in New York,
a lot of the bad guys who wanted to blow
up the subways or blow up a synagogue, and those
are usually what the plots are, just kill a lot
of people in Central Park or Times Square. They interestingly,
you know, I've spent some time in either Pakistan's tribal
areas or Yemen, which is basically one giant tribal area
(12:05):
before they engaged in their attack, and then we would
find out, oh, they were trained, and they got spiritual sanctioning,
they got ideological uh affirmation if you will, from those
Jihatis in there, and the blessing of that jihadist group
to go kill a bunch of innocent people. So another instance,
(12:27):
another instance where we have Jie Hottish terrorism, and the
left doesn't want to talk about it. The left doesn't
want to talk about it. They want to make this,
but they want to make it about the guns. It's
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here to play and Buck. I also think it's worth
noting because I had asked this question of the il
Exstein yesterday of IFCJ when she was on with US,
how's Australia doing with the radicalism in its midst? And
(14:20):
I asked it with look, I can't pay attention to
every Western countries. You know details of their counter terrorism
operations and programs day to day. You could do a
whole career just doing this for one country. But I
had a feeling based on the leftward tilt of Australia,
particularly after COVID. I've never been able to think of
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Australia the same way. After that that they just went
completely insane and we're all on board, and there was
like barely a peep of protest out of anybody there.
Total waste, total waste. We're all still paying the price
for it, by the way, in so many ways. But
then Yahoo said so I had a feeling that they
were bad at dealing with the jihadism in their midst.
(15:04):
But here's Benjamin n Yaho's saying that the Australian Prime
minister has stunk when it comes to standing up to
anti semitism. Play twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Now.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
About four months ago, I sent Prime Minister Albanize of
Australia a letter in which I gave him warning that
the Australian government's policy was promoting and encouraging antisemitism in Australia. Instead,
Prime Minister, you replaced weakness with weakness, and appeasement with
(15:32):
more appeasement. Your government did nothing to stop the spread
of anti Semitism in Australia. You did nothing to curb
the cancer cells that were growing inside your country. You
took no action, You let the disease spread, and the
result is the orific attacks on Jews we saw today.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
He's really calling out that Australian Prime Minister on this one.
So I think there's something too that because he was
met Yahoo is not holding back at all. Also, someone
else calling out the anti Israel left a voice that
you've heard do this many times. And as I've said,
(16:13):
I freely admit this my analysis of Fetterman, I underestimated
this guy. I know he's bad on some issue still,
or I should say I disagree with him on some
issues still, but he has showed some backbone and a
lot more moral clarity certainly on this than ninety something
percent of Democrats out there. Here he is talking about
(16:37):
the rot, the Jihattist rot within the Democrat Party play thirty.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Mainstream outlets like The New York Times is constantly CONSTI
get a strong anti Israel views on those things and
other media as well to call it what it is,
and now here in my own party, I've been incredibly disappointed,
you know, and people are trying to pretend these kinds
of words and turns like you know, from the River
(17:01):
to the Sea, or to globalize the Infatada and all
those other things.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
We all know what this means. And I refuse to
pander to that.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
And now for for me, it's been a rot, you know,
within the American left and within my party.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
He's totally right. It is a rot with a Democrat party.
And I give him full credit for calling it out.
Like I was saying before, if you're a radical Muslim,
who are you voting for? A Democrat? If you're a
radical Muslim member of Congress, which party you in? Democrat?
Really it's interesting, isn't it. The Democrat Party is the
wide open tent, the large and expansive home for any
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some of your calls here. Caller Jeff in Pennsylvania wants
to talk gun buybacks. What's up, Jeff?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Hi? Yes, I wanted to talk gun buyback. I heard
you the other day refer to the buyback programs, and
what they actually are is compensated confiscation. The government never
undoes guns. They were made by private manufacturers, sold through
licensed dealers, and bought by individuals. So any of these
(19:35):
programs like they've had in Australia in the UK, they're
compensated confiscation. And we've had some programs in big cities
here in the US, but they've all been voluntary, thank goodness.
So it's just a point to bring up that this
is part of the let's not blaming the individual for
the evil they perform, and they're blaming the gun and
they think if they get rid of it through these
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confiscation programs, that will solve their problems.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Jeff, I completely agree with you. I've always disliked this.
I was trying to think of a better term for it.
Actually when we brought up the other day, you're right,
it is not a buyback because you can't buy back
something that was never yours, and so it's really a lie.
And so I agree with you. It's a bit like
calling somebody undocumented. No, they have documents, they just don't
have citizenship for America documents, right, I mean this is
(20:22):
this is a misdirection at best. So you're completely correct.
I agree with everything you said, and I think it's
an excellent point. Thank you for calling in. Yeah, the
buyback thing is will give you what we determine as
fair market value for your gun, or you go to prison.
I remember when they outlawed after the new Town School shooting,
(20:48):
when they outlawed AR fifteen's essentially in the state of California,
I mean sorry, state of Connecticut. They had this like
you have to turn They had some period you had
to turn in your AR fifteen and it was probably
more like your semi automatic rifle with the scary characteristics
of a stock and things like that, or immovable stock.
But you had to turn these guns. And there were
(21:08):
some analysis of I don't know, there were fifty to
one hundred thousand of these guns in the state of
keep say, in California, I'm sorry, state of Connecticut, in circulation,
and almost nobody turned them manti fire call. So technically
there are a lot of people walking around who who
Connecticut had made felons. I don't what purpose does that
possibly serve? Plus the guy, the horrific school shooter there
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stole it from lawful gun owners, right, didn't He didn't
he like get into the gun safe for something that
belonged to his parents. He stole I mean, or he
took guns that belonged to somebody else. So anyway, Uh, Chuck,
and Tampa wants to talk. What's up? Chuck? Oh, he dropped,
Jacqueline and Brooklyn wants to talk. What's up? Jacqueline?
Speaker 6 (21:51):
Hi? Buck, You know, I know you understand this, and
I know many of you listeners understand this, but it
bears repeating. A lot of what is going on with
these radical Islamists is a direct result of political correctness.
We've seen it not only here in this country in
the United States, it has been prevalent and spreading like
(22:11):
wildfire throughout the European countries like France and also the
United Kingdom and now Australia. So it's not going to stop.
To hold the cliche holds true. You cannot coexist with
he who wants you dead. They kill their own people,
as you correctly pointed out, if you're not Muslim enough,
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they kill them also. So there's no way around this.
And I want to say, I'm sorry to hear about
Clay's uncle, But the only reason I'm now listening is
because Clay is not there because he threw Curtis under
the bus regarding the mayoral election in New York. So
I'm glad to be listening to you today.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Well, I hope you will come back because we would
love to have you listening again, and Clay wants you
back to But thank you very much for thank you
very much are calling in. I would just say, yeah,
this is the toch fury belief is when you can
think about this, you get to declare another Muslim, a
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non Muslim, a kaff here and a past state so
that you can kill them under Islamic law. This is
central jihadist principle. And so and there sometimes is a
little bit of well they can be it's because they're
collaborators we can kill them, or because they're not only
do stuff, or hey, if they die, they're martyrs so
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they get to go to heaven with all the virgins too.
This is really what these Jihatas believe. This is what
they tell themselves. It is a delusion. Again, when I
talk about in my book, this is why delusions are
so scary. Why mass delusions are the biggest threat to humanity.
It's not climate change, it's not nuclear winter. It is
mass delusion that is the single biggest threat to humanity.
And that is why Manufacturing Delusion my book. You should
(23:57):
go get a copy of to buy it. It will
arrive February seventeenth, when the books are actually sent to
your home. That is pub day. All right, So thank
you for those Thank you very much for those calls.
So do we have this uh oh the audio. Oh
that's a shame they found this story. It's buck sex
(24:18):
and clashes with academic over radical Islam. This was a
great one. They are, in fact coming after us. I said,
this is great. We can't we can't find the audio
right now. I'll take you back to it, though. So
this is the way that the CNN, the CNN commentary
would operate when there's an incident, like a horrible terrorist attack.
(24:40):
I was there on their desk, and they I was
one of the best. I mean, I was actually the
best that they had at doing this. Just gonna be
honest with you. There are other plays. There are some
really good national security analysts that you will see on
Fox and I mean as practitioners, very you know, very smart.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
You know.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Steve Yates is on Fox a lot, you guys know,
I love him. He's a brilliant guys at Heritage Foundation.
Jim carrafinals at Heritage He's another super smart guy. He's
a friend of mine.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
Me.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
I go to them like, there are General Jack Keene.
I don't want to I start naming people. Then I
want to name twenty other people. But Fox has some
very good national like like top tier national security analysts.
When I used to go on CNN and the terrorism
analysts that they would have, I'm like, who they get
some professor for some college, like nobody's ever heard of.
Speaker 7 (25:26):
It was like, I don't I don't like all the
Islamophobia in this conversation.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
I mean, you know, I don't know where this lady
came from. You get some guy who is like an
Air Force no offense Air Force Air Force lieutenant colonel
in the nineties or something, it's like, oh, let me
tell you what's going on in Syria today. It's like,
what are you, buddy, He's got off the golf course
at one of your Air Force bases. Come on, but boom,
So you know, I sit here and I say to myself,
(25:54):
CNN has all these crazies, has all these crazies that
are going on. There's a This was the the nice
attack of Nice, France, Bastille Day right there, Bastille Day,
Bastille Day, if you're in America. And they, guys, how
I think it was eighty something died in that attack.
(26:15):
And it was a truck that just found the most
crowded areas where people were out celebrating the holiday, beautiful
south of France, just crushing people, mowing people down in
this truck, no gun truck. And I'm telling you, if
we can find the audio, we'll play it for you.
It's guys, check media eyed. I'm sure it was up
on media eye. Okay, they got it, they got it.
(26:39):
It's big. I knew you guys, if you guys never
let me down. I knew you'd find this one. But
I had some you know, he right in my you know,
in my ear about labout radically. I mean, we we're
talking about his labophobia. I'm like, lady, who are you like, well,
what do you know about anything? You're not if you've
been within one hundred miles of an actual Islamic radical
(26:59):
in alb wrote a book, Get Out of Here, Get
Out of Here. But I was the only one that
night who went on and was like, you know, I
think the terrorists of the problem. That was a radical
concept at CNN at that time. This is twenty sixteen
to go on CNN and say I think the Islamic
terrorist is the person that we should really focus on
(27:21):
here as the issue, and not our inability to assimilate
Muslims in Europe specifically. That was what the gist of
the conversation was. So you people are just crazy. You know,
they're trying to destroy our civilization. They're trying to kill
us and trying to ruin our day to day lives.
I mean, think of I always have to point this
out to everybody too. They'll do this thing and it
(27:45):
drives me nuts, and I hate this. You'll get like
Ezra Cline and some of these supposed intellectuals in the left,
and they're just honestly, you have to have some wisdom
and some virtue as a person to be really smart.
In my eyes, it can't just be high IQ. There
are a lot of high IQ people who make terrible decisions,
who are on the wrong side of the most importantation
(28:06):
that doesn't there's a difference. There's a difference between high
cognition and wisdom. There's a difference between high cognition and
having the right answers, knowing what should be done, huge difference,
as you know, in these things and the left on
this stuff, they're alway, they're just always wrong. It's just
so pathetic. They're always wrong. And you know that they'll
(28:27):
they'll make these arguments that are that are absurd, they'll
make these arguments that it's always about our Islamophobia, and
you never stop, you never stop to say, hold on
a second, if assimilation is the problem, are they working
hard to assimilate too, or you know, why is it
our fault? If we're going to pretend that the issue
here is the lack of assimilation of the Muslim minority
(28:49):
in these countries, why does that inherently fall on us?
Do you think that when Irish and German and other
immigrant Jews came from from Poland and from the from
Russian the Russian step, I mean, they fled and came
to America. Do you think that when they arrived there
was this expectation, well, first of all, that we were
going to give them all welfare and pay for everything.
(29:10):
And two that you know it wasn't on them to
figure it out. We were supposed to figure it out
for them.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
No.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
I always just think this stuff is well once you
get down to the roots of the argument. There are
people who are just rooting against us, our way of life,
our freedoms. It's true there are people who really root
for the other team in all of this, and they
can't see that, but that is the end result of
where they stand on this stuff. And when you're talking
(29:38):
about terrorism, specifically radical Islamic terrorism, oh oh but sorry,
the other thing I was gonna say, See, I could
do this stuff all I haven't. I get to put
my terrorism hat on here for or counter terrorism, my
terrorist analysis had on here, which is really what This
is why Glenn Beck hired me initially at the Blaze,
to his enormous credit, I must say, because I sat
(29:59):
down with him at his office in the Blaze, which
was empty at the time. Basically they were just beginning
the Blaze and Glenn sat down and he started asking
me little questions, a little bit of this, a little
bit of that in the Middle East, and I was
at that point so dialed in I was like an encyclopedia.
I'm not gonna lie. I was, and Glenn was like,
let's hire this kid. Good for him, by the way,
thank you Glenn. You know, for somebody to in one
(30:21):
meeting decide that he's gonna roll the dice and give
me a career. But it was these issues that I
really knew. But people talk about the whether it's the most,
it's Islamic terrors and we have to worry about the most,
or these other these other things. I'll say it's white nationalism,
you know, the the real problem is all the white
nationalists in this country. As if you know, we're we're
(30:43):
worried when we're when we're going into the Like I say,
when I go to Tsa, we worried about some you know,
skinhead with like neo Nazi tattoos getting on the planet.
Give me a break. We all know what we're worried about. Okay,
we're all very aware of that. But that goes to
my point of the entire terrorist counter terrorist apparatus in
America has been overwhelmingly until January sixth, and the FBI
(31:04):
had to track down old ladies and their fanny packs
for taking a selfie in the Capitol. The whole counter
terrorism and apparatus has been devoted toward stopping radical Islam.
So we've spent trillions of dollars to prevent more nine
to elevens, to prevent the spread of this stuff. And
there were a lot of other plots and a lot
of other attacks that didn't happen, And now those ones
(31:28):
never really get seered into our memory for obvious reasons,
the way that the successful, even smaller scale attacks to.
But we have had this massive expenditure for over twenty
years to stop people from going Allahu walk bar and
hitting the plunger on a suicide fest, to stop people
from saying Allahu walk Bar and mowing down a bunch
of people who are at a Honika celebration in Australia,
(31:49):
to stop people from go down the list all these things,
And you go over to New York Times, you go
you click on vox if that's even still a thing.
You go to the Huffing the Post, and you know
what they want to tell you.
Speaker 7 (31:59):
The real problem is sovereign citizens, white nationalists. That's the
real terrorism threat. Truly delusional people are delusional all right.
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and only people who care about what are stuff, or
that are that are as involved as you are and
I are, would pay pay attention to excuse me again,
cold uh. But then there's the stuff that makes its
way outward where the so called normis or the everyday
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people who aren't as into politics and the news as
you are and I am. And I'm getting a lot
of people that want to ask me, you know, what
do you think about what Trump said about h Rob
Ryaner's murder. It's clearly murdered him and his wife. And
one thing I really don't like is being asked This
(35:08):
happened to be a couple of times the last twenty
four hours. I don't like being asked to speak for
someone else who speaks quite clearly for themselves. You know,
I've had people do this as well, and I'm not
so I don't. I don't like know Tucker super well,
for example, I'm always got along with Tucker. You know,
(35:29):
he was always very very kind to my wife when
she worked on a show years ago. But they'll say,
you know, old did you you know Tucker said this?
What do you think Tucker says what he says? I
say what I say. I'm not I'm not in the
I don't have to sit here and play. The media
loves that that that live. Media loves this game, and
they're really getting into really attacking people here, or rather
(35:54):
pushing people to attack Trump on this Rob Ryer thing.
But I want to take this from a little bit
of a different direction. I want to remind everybody of
what the current atmosphere is for what is considered acceptable
discourse when there's violence against a conservative. Now, it's not
to say that what Trump said is what I said
(36:14):
what I wanted to say about the Rob Ryners stuff yesterday,
But there's more now. They're clearly trying to make this
the big story, the big issue. So I will spend
some time on it. I will also bring you some
of the latest comments from Trump, including the Oval office yesterday.
So we are going to have a stacked third hour,
my friends. This show is rolling along. I'm going to
(36:37):
pour some honey in some hot water with some lemon
and try to address my vocal cords, and we will
come back in the third There we go, come back
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