January 29, 2024 • 36 mins
The border crisis is entirely based on Biden decisions, and he could shut it down any time without a border bill. Trump promises deportations on Day One. Buck's review of "Masters of the Air." The asylum scam that is inundating America with illegal immigrants. Clay and Buck take calls.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Showdown at the Border continues. Welcome back to play in
Buck our two underway now, and we know that the
numbers are absolutely bonkers. You're talking about over ten thousand
a day now in parts of the US Mexico border
coming across Texas doing something about it. And I think
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one thing you may see is if Texas continues in
this way, there may well be other states that start
to see, notably Arizona, start to see more of a
surge across their border. I think that's very possible, maybe
in southern California as well. But in the meantime, we're
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looking at what Texas is going to do about this.
About the Supreme Court decision that merely says it's very
important that we speak with clarity on this. It just
says that the federal governments allowed to remove the razor wire.
If they say the razor wire is in the way, now,
it's crazy that they say it's in the way because
it's helping them do their job. But federal government, and
(01:12):
let's be clear, I believe Border Patrol also put out
a statement over the weekend that they will not arrest
any members of you know, Texas law enforcement who are
putting razor wire down. So they're like, we're not getting
in the middle of this. We refuse to go to
that next level of a federal state law enforcement showdown.
(01:33):
So I think cooler heads are prevailing on that, which
I thought given that border patrol is about thirty percent
US military veterans. People don't generally know that, but a
lot of vets in border patrol. That's not surprising to me.
Texas is going to continue with the razor wire, continue
to put it down. It has not been told that
(01:55):
it cannot do this, so it is not breaking any laws.
It is not find a Supreme Court decision. All the
decisions had to do with was can the federal government
remove what Texas puts down? Well, yes they can. Apparently
how much time and resources do they want to spend
in that effort. Well, there's also this talk about the
(02:15):
deal and Langford, Senator Langford of Oklahoma has been involved
in this on the Republican side. On the Democrat side,
Senator Tim Kaine was on one of those Sunday shows
which still exists, kind of amazing setting the political agenda
for the week, sure saying that this is a painful
(02:36):
bipartisan compromise. Play eight.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Look, this is a painful compromise. This is a tough bill.
I wish it were an immigration reform bill and not
just a border security bill. But the fentanyl issue is
a crisis. Yes, I wish this was a comprehensive immigration
reform bill, not just a border security bill. We got
to dig into the details, but we've got to find
a compromise. And as was pointed out, this compromise is
(03:01):
also key to opening up the security funding that we
need for Ukraine, humanitarian assistance in Gaza, defense support for Israel.
All that is hinging upon getting this deal.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Okay, Clay, the bill is unnecessary in its entirety. This
is this is I think what the single most important
thing that everybody should take away about what's going on
right now at the US Mexico border is that this
is entirely the result of Biden decisions. And Biden could
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basically shut it all down tomorrow if he wanted to.
We have our friend Ryan Gurdusky joining us tomorrow to
talk about the polls in the primary. But you know
he's sharing this, Clay, just so he's getting helping him
get the word out. Federal Code eight USC eleven eighty two.
F Okay, this is in the Federal code right now.
This is federal law. A president can already impose restrictions
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or outright suspendy into the US of aliens when they
determined that entry would be detrimental to the country's interests
for periods as they shall deem necessary. Clay Biden has
the right and as an executive branch power to just
say sorry, we're full right now. You can't keep coming
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over and just have people removed and deported straight away.
He can do that. That is the law right now.
So all this talk about, oh, we need a law
to figure out the No, the problem here is not
the lack of law. The problem is the lawlessness that
comes from a lack of political will.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
So they're going to try to argue that Republicans are
responsible for the situation.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
At the border.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
That's what you need to understand about where this is headed.
And I thought Stephen Miller really succinctly summed it up
for us. Was he on Friday, Thursday, whatever he was
on last week? Who would be Biden's Is he would
be Donald Trump's borders are I believe if Trump ends
up winning the election in twenty twenty four, and Steven
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Miller would be directly involved in every decision that was
made there, and he said and he tweeted this as well.
All Joe Biden would have to do to fix the
border is just reinstitute all of the policies that Donald
Trump put in place at the border on the first day.
If you remember when Joe Biden got sworn in, and
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then he went to the White House and he started
signing all those executive orders. Remember they had him sitting
at that little desk for some reason, like signing all
the executive orders. On the very first day that he
was in the White House, he rescinded all of the
border policies put in place by and large by Donald
Trump and basically let it be known that the southern
border was wide open and anybody could come into the country.
(05:48):
And but here, so first of all, let me say
this too. People out there who are interested in protecting
the southern border of the United States and are not
members of the military National Guard, in no way of
a field with either be very careful about the choices
that you're making in the same way that there were
Feds everywhere trying to catch people who were showing up
(06:12):
to protest January sixth than Washington, DC. I believe they
want to make it such that if you are a
private citizen who is in some way interested in trying
to protect the southern border, and there's talk about convoys
going down there, and there's talks about individuals making the
trip down there, be very careful about who you're talking to,
(06:33):
Be very careful about what text messages you're sending the
guy who is the most aggressive in your group about
the need to protect America. It would not stun me
at all if that is a federal agent looking to
try to catch you and trap you and make it
look like America's chief adversaries and enemies are inside of
the country. Second part on this, buck and this is
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the gamble that I think the Biden administration has made,
and I hope that I'm wrong on this. It's almost
impossible to deport millions of people, and so what the
Biden administration I think has made the decision is we're
going to flood this country with ten million illegals during
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our four years, and we'll make it twenty million illegals
if we win reelection and we get into a second term,
and it's going to be impossible to ever get those
people out of this country. That's the gamble that I
think they're making.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, it's actually not impossible, though, right, I mean, they
want people to believe it's impossible. Back in nineteen the
nineteen fifties, nineteen fifty three, nineteen fifty four, Eisenhower administration
just said, look, we've got too many illegal Mexicans who
have come into the country. And they deported one point
three million of them. Well, that would be phenomenal, that's
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with I mean, and let me know, far fewer illegals
than are here right now. I mean a fraction of
the illegals that are here in country now, and they
they deported one point three million of them in one
one sweep, effectively over a period of months. And I
think that Trump is really catching on now by telling
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everybody that this is going to be a central promise
of his administration. He was in Las Vegas on Saturday,
and this is clay right now. This is the first
thing that he's saying He's going to do. The first
thing he is promising day one deportations of illegals who
have come here play for.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
We have no choice. Within moments of my inauguration, we
will begin the largest domestic deportation operation in America. But
to all, we have no choice because this is not sustainable.
It's no under Joe Biden and his thugs are so
desperate to stop us. They know that we are the
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only ones who can stop them.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
They know that now he would have the power as
president to do this. This is not a matter of
congressional action. These individuals are in the country in violation
of US law. I mean, depends on who we're talking about,
but in general, illegals are here in violation of federal
immigration law. The whole notion of asylum seeking too, I
(09:17):
should add, it is also within the Federal Code as
a regulatory matter, not as a legislative matter. That that
can be changed. They can say, look, sorry, we're making
it a higher standard. Asylum is a nice thing that
we do for the rest of the world. As Americans.
We set the standards of what that should be, and
the federal government can just say, look, we got too
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many people who are lying about this. You have to
actually have some proof of a threat. You have to
be able to tell a story that is demonstrable. You
can't just say I have a credible fear. That would
change the game too, Clay. So if Trump follows through
on this, it is a very different immigration situation than
what we've seen for four years.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
So the incentive structure has changed because what is being
spread down all through Latin America and indeed around the world.
Because I believe we have had over one hundred different
countries represented in people crossing our southern border, and I
think that's so important to understand what exactly is going
on if somebody crossed from Mexico. You mentioned the nineteen
(10:22):
fifties with Eisenhower. Historically immigration patterns were people from Mexico
might come north to work in jobs in the United
States and then they go back home and they're seasonally
crossing the border back and forth, but they still have
really kind of their roots in Mexico. Well, that's somewhat
feasible if you're from Africa, or you're from Asia, or
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you're from far down into Latin America. The idea that
you're going to be easily going back and forth and
having sort of a foot in each country is no
longer viable. And so what's going on here is we're
getting people who are coming permanently. To your point, they're
saying that they desire asylum. They don't have court hearings
(11:08):
until the twenty thirties. Now they have kids. In the meantime,
their kids become citizens, and they get integrated in some
way into American commerce and becomes very difficult to remove them.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
They're breaking laws, they're scamming our system, they're taking advantage
of the kindness of the American people. And if you
change this, you know, they're spending thousands of dollars to
pay off the cartels, they're spending whatever they're spending to
especially if they're flying from somewhere else in the world
to get to Mexico in the first place, or to
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get to somewhere in South America and then to make
their way up through Mexico to our border. So all
of a sudden, if you may, you know, if you
come here from pick a country in the you know,
from Pakistan, all right, and you try to just do
this thing where you show up at the US Mexico border,
and there are people who come from Pakistan. Just to
be clear, the people come from name a contact. Over
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one hundred countries have come across our southern border since
over one hundred sixty at this point. I mean, I
mean it's just crazy. Yeah, So every third world country
in the world now has people that are just showing
up and doing this and scamming the system. Uh, if
you find out that you're going to go through that
whole process, you're going to pay the cartels three thousand
dollars in cash or five thousand dollars in cash, whatever
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it is, and end up getting sent back to Pakistan
or you know, Burma or you know West Africa or wherever,
You're probably not going to do it, right. I mean,
if you think that you're going to get turned away.
And this is not about locking people up, it's not
about hurting people they're ruining their lives or anything else.
It's about saying, we have a system, we have rule
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of law in this country. We're going to return you
to your country if you come here illegally. That's all
it is. That's all this is about. And uh, you
know this is this is I think the primary message
that Trump is bringing to people at rallies, and I
mean the Biden White House, there only is to lie
about this, to say, oh, we have to have a
(13:03):
compre we have to tie this to Ukraine funding. Let
me think about that for a second, Clay, we got
to tie this to you? Is one has nothing to
do with the other. It's just a gross trick that
they're trying to pull because they don't want people to
see what they're really all about. When it comes to
the border. It's one hundred percent what it is. And
Biden has to own this. But understand what he's going
(13:25):
to try to do is confuse people by saying the
reason the southern border is open is because Republicans didn't
take action on this bill. When all he has to
do is pull out a pin one stroke of the pen.
He can solve the border crisis by himself. He doesn't
need Congress involved at all. All right, let's take some
of your calls on this. Eight hundred two A two
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Speaker 1 (15:15):
Okay, Buck, you I mentioned, did not watch any of
the games over the weekend, but you gave a review
of Masters of the Air.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
I I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
I had this on my horizon because I enjoyed Band
of Brothers, which is so well done, and The Pacific
and I was thinking, okay, this is the next iteration
it's Steven Spielberg, or sorry, it's Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg,
isn't it or the same.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
People who did producing it. I mean, I don't think
they're that involved, but they're they're writing checks and you know,
involved in some of them.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
And they did a good job with the prior World
War Two epics that that a lot of Private.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Mind is a is a phenomenal. It's an A plus movie.
Band of Brothers for me, is an A plus TV show.
You know, those are as good as it gets in
the genre. The Pacific has A plus episodes. I would
say there were a couple of episodes that you just
didn't need at all. You all know what I'm talking about,
where he's like in Australia having dinner with some family
(16:15):
and you're like, I just don't need to. You know,
I understand that they are, you know, humans with lives
and aspirations outside of the war and everything too. But
you know there's a reason why, Like you don't see
people washing their hands a lot in these you know,
and doing other things they do at home. They're not
gonnahow you on video anyway. Yeah, the Masters of the
Air just thinks it's just bad. I think I gave
(16:35):
it a so you're done. You're not even gonna keep
watching this series. I'm gonna give it one or two
more because you know, Carrie and I wanted it. We
this is the rare Carrie likes romantic comedies and she'll
watch war stuff, no sci fi, no fantasy, no, you know,
there's a whole So I'm like, when your watch Game
of Thrones, Nope, when I'm anything with dragons, she's out. Okay,
(16:56):
anything with lasers, she's out. So I'm on my own
a lot that stuff. We find this show, I think
we're gonna like it. The two main characters are named
Buck and Bucky, and there's a hole back and forth
about how that came to be, and I'm like, all right,
at least anything that's not Uncle Buck. I feel like
is bringing the Buck name back to its previous grandeur.
But there's just just slow. The dialogue is bad. It's
(17:21):
you know that they could have done so much more
with what they have. You don't really like any of
the characters. It's a shame. Man.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
This is one of the most crushing reviews I bet
they'll have because this audience is primed to love the
love this show right would be probably one of the
of all media audiences, one of the highest percentages of
audience that would actually consider it.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
This should be. But that's the thing. There's no excuse
for the show not to be excellent, and it is
far from excellent. And that's what bothers me. You know,
you see something like all quiet in the rest of
Western Front. I know it's World War One. It's a
German movie. That's an A plus movie, this subject matter,
the production value, there's no reason why I shouldn't be as
good as it is.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
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Speaker 2 (18:50):
Do it today. Let's take a call here from Jerome
in Indiana, who is a legal immigrants to this country.
He's got a question about all this. What's up, Jerome?
Speaker 5 (19:08):
Yes, Hi, good afternoon, Thank you. What I wanted to
ask for both of you, since you all know the
legal stuff is for people that are seeking asylum, isn't
it possible for them to process those people at the
US embassy from the country order from.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yes, this is a Jerome. This is a very important
point you raisedon I thank you for calling in, and
we'll address this now, because these are further layers of
what I call the scam that's going on here. The
answer is, yes, if you arrive in the US, you
are an asylum and you want to be effectively a refugee,
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you're considered to be seeking asylum. But you can get
the same process by being in your home country going
to the embassy, and you can apply for refugees dat.
So refugee and assi lee are very similar. It's just
a question of where your uh, where you are physically
when you do it. Uh, these individuals should be going
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if they were true asylum seekers or refugees, they should
be going into their home country and uh, you know,
going to the US embassy and going through the process
and doing the interviews and waiting there. But Clay, the
other part of this that's really interesting, and this does
not get talked about enough. Asylum seekers under our law,
under immigration law, cannot be people who are transiting countries
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in the process of getting here. The asylum just to
ever saying it is truly for Hey, I'm you know,
back in the old Soviet days, right like I'm a
visiting you know, musician. I'm a violinist, and if I
go back to the you know, Moscow Royal Symphony, They're
going to execute me because I'm politically outspoken. Will you
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guys take me in, put me back on the plane,
and I may be tortured and executed. That's what asylum
is for. What people are doing is they're showing up.
I mean, I used Pakistan before, you know, pick another country, Thailand,
they're showing. They're leaving Thailand, they're going They're flying into
you know, Peru or Venezuela or maybe Mexico directly, they're
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transiting a third party to come to America and in
doing so, violating what would be necessary for them to
be a true asylum seeker because they're supposed to apply
clay in Mexico, that's actually the rule. So the whole
thing is a fraud. I don't know else people need
to hear. That's why I have all these single adult
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males who are scamming our system coming across the border,
millions of them now.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
And that's why I keep pointing out that this became
such a big issue. Know when I was in Italy
in March I was talking with Italian guys who were
taking us around in Naples, and Italy has had a
huge issue with illegals coming in from Africa because it's
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not that far geographically. They want to get into the
EU where they could theoretically be able to get better
benefits and everything else than they would have in Africa.
What's crazy is even Europe, which has had a major issue, right,
this has turned into a monstrous issue all over Europe
too because they brought in so many immigrants and if
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you follow geopolitical stories and even want to read about
what's going on there, whether it's France, whether it's Italy,
whether it's Germany, whether it's Sweden, Switzerland, England, all of
these countries are having immigrants come in who have no
interest whatsoever in becoming citizens of those countries that are
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similar to the past. Right, France is fascinating for this
buck because France is actually a color where they say
we don't see a country where they say we don't
see color, we see you as French or not free.
And they actually have taken our phrase woke and they
call it wokism. That's not a very good French action,
but accent but the wa Wokism. By the way, little
(23:12):
beret On Clay all of a sudden a little bage
in his Handla Wokism. They savage in France, the idea
of the woke ideology, and this has been across the board.
They've had all these interesting disputes, for instance with me Too,
where a lot of people have come out women in
France and attacked the concept of me too. And Gerard Deperdeaux,
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the most famous French actor. I can't believe that my
knowledge of France was probably not anywhere near as high
as people expected based on all this knowledge of French
geopolitics here. But my point on it is buck these
African immigrants are having more difficulty getting into Europe, even
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though geographically it's far easier to get into to get
into Italy, to get into any of these countries from
North Africa. They're getting on planes to your point, they're
flying to Latin America or Mexico, and they're walking right
into our country. So, I mean, this is kind of
crazy to think about. It's easier for an African illegal
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immigrant to get in the United States, which should be
wildly difficult just based on raw geography, than it is
to actually get into Europe.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
You know, you also have to start looking at what
does it mean to have sovereignty and what does it
mean to have rule of law? You know, why is
it that we don't have Canadians voting in our elections.
Canadians speak the same language, they live right next door
to us, a lot of you know, you can't even
tell some Canadians you think they're Midwesterners. You know, they're
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just as nice, just as polite, right, so you can't
tell the difference. And yet Hawaii, which is in the
middle of the Pacific Ocean, a totally separate land mass,
one of the most isolated island chains in the world,
those are Americans. Why is that? It's because it's American soil.
Because we have nation states that make these determinations, that
draw boundaries on a map and say we control what
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goes on on this soil. The moment that all of
a sudden, anyone can show up and anyone can be
a part of this, and there's no by your leave necessary,
it's just I want to be here. I'm here. You
start to ask, well, how long do we really have
a country? How long do we have a cultural unit?
How long do we have linguistic ties, historical ties, a
(25:35):
shared heritage, a shared love of the way that we
do things here versus the way that we do things
somewhere else. I mean, I always point out in the
European context, Clay, it can feel even more obvious. You know,
you look at a country like the Netherlands. It's not
a very big country, right, It's not very big geographically,
it's not very big population wise. You let in a
million people from a very different culture. Very quickly, very suddenly,
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you realize you're starting to be in a different political entity.
Now it's not the same country it was before you
let in five million people into a country of that size,
you're definitely in a different place, different laws, different and
you know, we could talk about those laws look like
and what the religious persuasion of some of the migrants
is versus what the people that are there. But this
is why you have so many governments in Europe that
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are increasingly turning more right wing, more conservative, because the
people that live in these countries are saying, what's the point,
Like if you can just show off and you don't
have to learn the language, and you don't have to
feel like there's any affinity. You don't have to obey
our laws. Why am I here? Why would I give
my life for this place? Why do I pay taxes
to this place? Why can people show up at my
(26:43):
door and take away my freedom because I don't give
them the prescribed amount of taxation that they demand.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Well, and I think there's lots of people looking around
the country. Let's use our listeners. In Southeast Michigan right now.
I think a lot of people are looking around at
some of what is being said surrounding October seventh and
thinking to themselves, my goodness, how in the world are
we living in a state where there are huge portions
(27:13):
of Michigan now right dearborn, in particular, where large majorities
of Arab people living there don't believe that Israel should
exist and are using American political institutions as immigrants to
argue against, for instance.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Israel existing. It's just the culture of a place.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
And we haven't even talked about the clip that has
gone super viral of elon Omar arguing that basically she
exists to do the bidding of small eland and defend
Muslim interest in the United States, above her responsibilities as
a United States citizen and I think there are lots
of people asking these questions, not only the United States,
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but just about nationhood in general. And remember, Puck, you
can't become a citizen of China. There is no immigration
to China. There's no immigration to Japan. By and large,
there are many big group of seven nations. The United
States is actually the outlier in terms of its incredible
welcoming nature, in terms of its birthright citizenship perspectives. These
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things don't exist in many of the other largest economies
in the world.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
If immigration that is unrestricted doesn't put strain on the
load bearing walls of our republic, why do we have
immigration laws. There's no reason for them, right if there
was nothing that could go awry, if there were no
challenges that would come from just unrestricted, unrestrained, free flowing
(28:49):
immigration into this country. People say, oh, but what about
you know, what about the early eighteen hundreds. Those are pioneers.
There's no welfare state, folks. Okay, if you got here
on a creaking wooden ship and you didn't die of
scurvy or typhus or whatever it was, go out in
the woods with a hatchet. Nobody was putting you up
in a four star hotel in New York City and
saying we're gonna pay for your food and your health
(29:12):
care and your schooling, and you know, and you're gonna
be voting. Is so so the historical analogies people use
here are completely off. They don't even talk about how
a third of people that showed up at Ellis Island,
a third of people that made it into this country
legally self deported from America because it was so hard
(29:32):
to make a go of it here, because the immigrants
were in such challenging legal immigrants were in such challenging circumstance.
I've been to the Tenement Museum in the Lower East
Side of New York City. It's, man, it is sorry
you've ever been there, you see every show.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
I haven't been there, but I've I've read the stories
about the life and the way that people lived in
that era is quite a lot different than what people do.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Irish living, you know, eight eight in a room, you know,
and Italian and Jews living eight in a room in
the Lower east Side, and you know, there'd be outbreaks
of communical disease, and I mentioned typhus and typhoid and
these other things, and they just be stacking bodies like
firewood in front of the building, and you know, that
was just the deal. They were immigrants. You know, there
(30:16):
was no there was no huge outcry about now it
was inhumane and awful, but I'm just saying, that's what
people were getting on ships to come here for. And
that's why when you're talking about what's going on now,
people are flying here on a plane, walking across the
border and saying, where's all my free stuff? And they're
getting all their free stuff.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
And by the way, we're four percent of the world
population United States. If you're fortunate enough to be a
citizen of the United States, we are four percent of
the United States population. It's pretty wild to think about
the rate at which we are adding people illegally, and
and how many.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
People just don't have any issue with that. And you know,
the US is a pretty I'm going to say US
is a pretty arrogant place when it comes to the
rule of law. And we're the only country I know
of that has true global taxation. You're an American citizen,
you live anywhere, you are subject to US federal income tax.
You're living in an island in the South Pacific, but
you have in a US passport, you are subject to
(31:11):
US tax law. You're subject to all US federal laws
while you're traveling abroad, no matter where you are. Very
few countries have anything like that. So they're gonna say,
you can live somewhere else and not be subject to
anything other than holding a US passport and we'll tax you.
But immigration law, we're not going to enforce that. So
people can live next door to you illegally and get
(31:31):
government benefits for free, and there's no problem. I mean, look,
this is why it's the biggest issue in the country
right now. Let's take some calls. We come back. Eight
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Speaker 1 (32:54):
Several of you want to ask a few questions out there.
Eight hundred and two to two A two. John Kirby,
speaking live says the US will respond after the murder,
the death the killing of three service members by Iranian
backed terror organizations, that the US will respond at a
time and place of its choosing, so not giving us
(33:17):
very much information there. Chris in Indianapolis, Indiana, what you
got for us.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
Yeah, thank you very much. I'm kind of the where
the rubber meets the road kind of guy. With the
cartels being in charge of of all these people coming
across the border. My question is, I wonder who here
is working with the cartels to allow us to happen.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Well, thanks for the call, Chris. I don't know about
working here to allow it to happen. The cartels bring
all of the people to the border. They typically have
color coordinated wristbands to ensure that they have evidence that
these people have paid and contextualizing for Chris, they are
the size of this business. The Mexican drug cartels. Illegal
(34:07):
shipping of humans into our country is more profitable for
them than the NFL is in terms of revenue that
is produced. That's staggering for anybody out there to think
about the size of this business for the cartels and
how much money they're making. It's a bigger business than
the NFL is in the United States. But in terms
(34:29):
of who's participating here, I mean, I don't think anybody's
necessarily getting directly paid off. I think just the Biden
administration is allowing all of these people to come. It's
creating a tremendous business opportunity for the cartels, and in
conjunction with their illegal transit of drugs, they're also illegally
transiting people. They're just taking out advantage of the opportunity
(34:52):
that's there. Yeah, when you look at the amount of
money that these cartels are making between their human smuggling
and drug smuggling operation, and then you wonder rule of
law in Mexico not particularly strong, you start to think
who's really in charge of that government everybody? And I
think about how brazen it is.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
To be running mass international human smuggling operation the cartels
are doing. They're doing it in broad daylight. I've seen
I've seen them. I've seen the smugglers doing what they
do from the other side of the Rio Grande. And
guess what, they're not worried about it. They're not concerned.
They're not waiting for the federals to swoop in and
arrest them, and they don't care. So, you know, it's
not going to get better on the Mexican side of
(35:30):
the border anytime soon either, I can tell you that much.
They're just you know, hoping that they don't have an
all out cartel war in the meantime, but that's a
country where rule of law is unfortunately kind of a fiction.
Henry in California, what's up.
Speaker 7 (35:46):
Sex, Thanks good pleasure to talk to you, guys, my
first time calling.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
I have a question.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Thank you you guys.
Speaker 8 (35:51):
Maybe you can help me with my question. I have
support Donald Trump.
Speaker 7 (35:56):
I live in LA and I'm in the middle of
the train is of the war with all these leftis
of liberals. It's really hard, but I support Donald Trump
and his deportations strategy for his hopefully for his new administration.
It comes in on twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
I got twenty seconds.
Speaker 8 (36:14):
Wonder twenty yeah, right, I wonder if what are the
policies that could be implemented that obviously that are not
working now. I mean they could work, but what new
policies can.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Work to deportations lots of them and shutting down the war. Yeah.
Thanks for the Paul.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
We'll talk about that and the political ramifications of that,
as well as the latest on the terror attacks in
the Middle East.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Next
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Showdown at the Border continues. Welcome back to play in
Buck our two underway now, and we know that the
numbers are absolutely bonkers. You're talking about over ten thousand
a day now in parts of the US Mexico border
coming across Texas doing something about it. And I think
(00:29):
one thing you may see is if Texas continues in
this way, there may well be other states that start
to see, notably Arizona, start to see more of a
surge across their border. I think that's very possible, maybe
in southern California as well. But in the meantime, we're
(00:52):
looking at what Texas is going to do about this.
About the Supreme Court decision that merely says it's very
important that we speak with clarity on this. It just
says that the federal governments allowed to remove the razor wire.
If they say the razor wire is in the way, now,
it's crazy that they say it's in the way because
it's helping them do their job. But federal government, and
(01:12):
let's be clear, I believe Border Patrol also put out
a statement over the weekend that they will not arrest
any members of you know, Texas law enforcement who are
putting razor wire down. So they're like, we're not getting
in the middle of this. We refuse to go to
that next level of a federal state law enforcement showdown.
(01:33):
So I think cooler heads are prevailing on that, which
I thought given that border patrol is about thirty percent
US military veterans. People don't generally know that, but a
lot of vets in border patrol. That's not surprising to me.
Texas is going to continue with the razor wire, continue
to put it down. It has not been told that
(01:55):
it cannot do this, so it is not breaking any laws.
It is not find a Supreme Court decision. All the
decisions had to do with was can the federal government
remove what Texas puts down? Well, yes they can. Apparently
how much time and resources do they want to spend
in that effort. Well, there's also this talk about the
(02:15):
deal and Langford, Senator Langford of Oklahoma has been involved
in this on the Republican side. On the Democrat side,
Senator Tim Kaine was on one of those Sunday shows
which still exists, kind of amazing setting the political agenda
for the week, sure saying that this is a painful
(02:36):
bipartisan compromise. Play eight.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Look, this is a painful compromise. This is a tough bill.
I wish it were an immigration reform bill and not
just a border security bill. But the fentanyl issue is
a crisis. Yes, I wish this was a comprehensive immigration
reform bill, not just a border security bill. We got
to dig into the details, but we've got to find
a compromise. And as was pointed out, this compromise is
(03:01):
also key to opening up the security funding that we
need for Ukraine, humanitarian assistance in Gaza, defense support for Israel.
All that is hinging upon getting this deal.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Okay, Clay, the bill is unnecessary in its entirety. This
is this is I think what the single most important
thing that everybody should take away about what's going on
right now at the US Mexico border is that this
is entirely the result of Biden decisions. And Biden could
(03:35):
basically shut it all down tomorrow if he wanted to.
We have our friend Ryan Gurdusky joining us tomorrow to
talk about the polls in the primary. But you know
he's sharing this, Clay, just so he's getting helping him
get the word out. Federal Code eight USC eleven eighty two.
F Okay, this is in the Federal code right now.
This is federal law. A president can already impose restrictions
(03:58):
or outright suspendy into the US of aliens when they
determined that entry would be detrimental to the country's interests
for periods as they shall deem necessary. Clay Biden has
the right and as an executive branch power to just
say sorry, we're full right now. You can't keep coming
(04:19):
over and just have people removed and deported straight away.
He can do that. That is the law right now.
So all this talk about, oh, we need a law
to figure out the No, the problem here is not
the lack of law. The problem is the lawlessness that
comes from a lack of political will.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
So they're going to try to argue that Republicans are
responsible for the situation.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
At the border.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
That's what you need to understand about where this is headed.
And I thought Stephen Miller really succinctly summed it up
for us. Was he on Friday, Thursday, whatever he was
on last week? Who would be Biden's Is he would
be Donald Trump's borders are I believe if Trump ends
up winning the election in twenty twenty four, and Steven
(05:05):
Miller would be directly involved in every decision that was
made there, and he said and he tweeted this as well.
All Joe Biden would have to do to fix the
border is just reinstitute all of the policies that Donald
Trump put in place at the border on the first day.
If you remember when Joe Biden got sworn in, and
(05:27):
then he went to the White House and he started
signing all those executive orders. Remember they had him sitting
at that little desk for some reason, like signing all
the executive orders. On the very first day that he
was in the White House, he rescinded all of the
border policies put in place by and large by Donald
Trump and basically let it be known that the southern
border was wide open and anybody could come into the country.
(05:48):
And but here, so first of all, let me say
this too. People out there who are interested in protecting
the southern border of the United States and are not
members of the military National Guard, in no way of
a field with either be very careful about the choices
that you're making in the same way that there were
Feds everywhere trying to catch people who were showing up
(06:12):
to protest January sixth than Washington, DC. I believe they
want to make it such that if you are a
private citizen who is in some way interested in trying
to protect the southern border, and there's talk about convoys
going down there, and there's talks about individuals making the
trip down there, be very careful about who you're talking to,
(06:33):
Be very careful about what text messages you're sending the
guy who is the most aggressive in your group about
the need to protect America. It would not stun me
at all if that is a federal agent looking to
try to catch you and trap you and make it
look like America's chief adversaries and enemies are inside of
the country. Second part on this, buck and this is
(06:54):
the gamble that I think the Biden administration has made,
and I hope that I'm wrong on this. It's almost
impossible to deport millions of people, and so what the
Biden administration I think has made the decision is we're
going to flood this country with ten million illegals during
(07:16):
our four years, and we'll make it twenty million illegals
if we win reelection and we get into a second term,
and it's going to be impossible to ever get those
people out of this country. That's the gamble that I
think they're making.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yeah, it's actually not impossible, though, right, I mean, they
want people to believe it's impossible. Back in nineteen the
nineteen fifties, nineteen fifty three, nineteen fifty four, Eisenhower administration
just said, look, we've got too many illegal Mexicans who
have come into the country. And they deported one point
three million of them. Well, that would be phenomenal, that's
(07:52):
with I mean, and let me know, far fewer illegals
than are here right now. I mean a fraction of
the illegals that are here in country now, and they
they deported one point three million of them in one
one sweep, effectively over a period of months. And I
think that Trump is really catching on now by telling
(08:13):
everybody that this is going to be a central promise
of his administration. He was in Las Vegas on Saturday,
and this is clay right now. This is the first
thing that he's saying He's going to do. The first
thing he is promising day one deportations of illegals who
have come here play for.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
We have no choice. Within moments of my inauguration, we
will begin the largest domestic deportation operation in America. But
to all, we have no choice because this is not sustainable.
It's no under Joe Biden and his thugs are so
desperate to stop us. They know that we are the
(08:52):
only ones who can stop them.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
They know that now he would have the power as
president to do this. This is not a matter of
congressional action. These individuals are in the country in violation
of US law. I mean, depends on who we're talking about,
but in general, illegals are here in violation of federal
immigration law. The whole notion of asylum seeking too, I
(09:17):
should add, it is also within the Federal Code as
a regulatory matter, not as a legislative matter. That that
can be changed. They can say, look, sorry, we're making
it a higher standard. Asylum is a nice thing that
we do for the rest of the world. As Americans.
We set the standards of what that should be, and
the federal government can just say, look, we got too
(09:38):
many people who are lying about this. You have to
actually have some proof of a threat. You have to
be able to tell a story that is demonstrable. You
can't just say I have a credible fear. That would
change the game too, Clay. So if Trump follows through
on this, it is a very different immigration situation than
what we've seen for four years.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
So the incentive structure has changed because what is being
spread down all through Latin America and indeed around the world.
Because I believe we have had over one hundred different
countries represented in people crossing our southern border, and I
think that's so important to understand what exactly is going
on if somebody crossed from Mexico. You mentioned the nineteen
(10:22):
fifties with Eisenhower. Historically immigration patterns were people from Mexico
might come north to work in jobs in the United
States and then they go back home and they're seasonally
crossing the border back and forth, but they still have
really kind of their roots in Mexico. Well, that's somewhat
feasible if you're from Africa, or you're from Asia, or
(10:45):
you're from far down into Latin America. The idea that
you're going to be easily going back and forth and
having sort of a foot in each country is no
longer viable. And so what's going on here is we're
getting people who are coming permanently. To your point, they're
saying that they desire asylum. They don't have court hearings
(11:08):
until the twenty thirties. Now they have kids. In the meantime,
their kids become citizens, and they get integrated in some
way into American commerce and becomes very difficult to remove them.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
They're breaking laws, they're scamming our system, they're taking advantage
of the kindness of the American people. And if you
change this, you know, they're spending thousands of dollars to
pay off the cartels, they're spending whatever they're spending to
especially if they're flying from somewhere else in the world
to get to Mexico in the first place, or to
(11:39):
get to somewhere in South America and then to make
their way up through Mexico to our border. So all
of a sudden, if you may, you know, if you
come here from pick a country in the you know,
from Pakistan, all right, and you try to just do
this thing where you show up at the US Mexico border,
and there are people who come from Pakistan. Just to
be clear, the people come from name a contact. Over
(12:00):
one hundred countries have come across our southern border since
over one hundred sixty at this point. I mean, I
mean it's just crazy. Yeah, So every third world country
in the world now has people that are just showing
up and doing this and scamming the system. Uh, if
you find out that you're going to go through that
whole process, you're going to pay the cartels three thousand
dollars in cash or five thousand dollars in cash, whatever
(12:22):
it is, and end up getting sent back to Pakistan
or you know, Burma or you know West Africa or wherever,
You're probably not going to do it, right. I mean,
if you think that you're going to get turned away.
And this is not about locking people up, it's not
about hurting people they're ruining their lives or anything else.
It's about saying, we have a system, we have rule
(12:43):
of law in this country. We're going to return you
to your country if you come here illegally. That's all
it is. That's all this is about. And uh, you
know this is this is I think the primary message
that Trump is bringing to people at rallies, and I
mean the Biden White House, there only is to lie
about this, to say, oh, we have to have a
(13:03):
compre we have to tie this to Ukraine funding. Let
me think about that for a second, Clay, we got
to tie this to you? Is one has nothing to
do with the other. It's just a gross trick that
they're trying to pull because they don't want people to
see what they're really all about. When it comes to
the border. It's one hundred percent what it is. And
Biden has to own this. But understand what he's going
(13:25):
to try to do is confuse people by saying the
reason the southern border is open is because Republicans didn't
take action on this bill. When all he has to
do is pull out a pin one stroke of the pen.
He can solve the border crisis by himself. He doesn't
need Congress involved at all. All right, let's take some
of your calls on this. Eight hundred two A two
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Speaker 1 (15:15):
Okay, Buck, you I mentioned, did not watch any of
the games over the weekend, but you gave a review
of Masters of the Air.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
I I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
I had this on my horizon because I enjoyed Band
of Brothers, which is so well done, and The Pacific
and I was thinking, okay, this is the next iteration
it's Steven Spielberg, or sorry, it's Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg,
isn't it or the same.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
People who did producing it. I mean, I don't think
they're that involved, but they're they're writing checks and you know,
involved in some of them.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
And they did a good job with the prior World
War Two epics that that a lot of Private.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Mind is a is a phenomenal. It's an A plus movie.
Band of Brothers for me, is an A plus TV show.
You know, those are as good as it gets in
the genre. The Pacific has A plus episodes. I would
say there were a couple of episodes that you just
didn't need at all. You all know what I'm talking about,
where he's like in Australia having dinner with some family
(16:15):
and you're like, I just don't need to. You know,
I understand that they are, you know, humans with lives
and aspirations outside of the war and everything too. But
you know there's a reason why, Like you don't see
people washing their hands a lot in these you know,
and doing other things they do at home. They're not
gonnahow you on video anyway. Yeah, the Masters of the
Air just thinks it's just bad. I think I gave
(16:35):
it a so you're done. You're not even gonna keep
watching this series. I'm gonna give it one or two
more because you know, Carrie and I wanted it. We
this is the rare Carrie likes romantic comedies and she'll
watch war stuff, no sci fi, no fantasy, no, you know,
there's a whole So I'm like, when your watch Game
of Thrones, Nope, when I'm anything with dragons, she's out. Okay,
(16:56):
anything with lasers, she's out. So I'm on my own
a lot that stuff. We find this show, I think
we're gonna like it. The two main characters are named
Buck and Bucky, and there's a hole back and forth
about how that came to be, and I'm like, all right,
at least anything that's not Uncle Buck. I feel like
is bringing the Buck name back to its previous grandeur.
But there's just just slow. The dialogue is bad. It's
(17:21):
you know that they could have done so much more
with what they have. You don't really like any of
the characters. It's a shame. Man.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
This is one of the most crushing reviews I bet
they'll have because this audience is primed to love the
love this show right would be probably one of the
of all media audiences, one of the highest percentages of
audience that would actually consider it.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
This should be. But that's the thing. There's no excuse
for the show not to be excellent, and it is
far from excellent. And that's what bothers me. You know,
you see something like all quiet in the rest of
Western Front. I know it's World War One. It's a
German movie. That's an A plus movie, this subject matter,
the production value, there's no reason why I shouldn't be as
good as it is.
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Speaker 2 (18:50):
Do it today. Let's take a call here from Jerome
in Indiana, who is a legal immigrants to this country.
He's got a question about all this. What's up, Jerome?
Speaker 5 (19:08):
Yes, Hi, good afternoon, Thank you. What I wanted to
ask for both of you, since you all know the
legal stuff is for people that are seeking asylum, isn't
it possible for them to process those people at the
US embassy from the country order from.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yes, this is a Jerome. This is a very important
point you raisedon I thank you for calling in, and
we'll address this now, because these are further layers of
what I call the scam that's going on here. The
answer is, yes, if you arrive in the US, you
are an asylum and you want to be effectively a refugee,
(19:49):
you're considered to be seeking asylum. But you can get
the same process by being in your home country going
to the embassy, and you can apply for refugees dat.
So refugee and assi lee are very similar. It's just
a question of where your uh, where you are physically
when you do it. Uh, these individuals should be going
(20:11):
if they were true asylum seekers or refugees, they should
be going into their home country and uh, you know,
going to the US embassy and going through the process
and doing the interviews and waiting there. But Clay, the
other part of this that's really interesting, and this does
not get talked about enough. Asylum seekers under our law,
under immigration law, cannot be people who are transiting countries
(20:37):
in the process of getting here. The asylum just to
ever saying it is truly for Hey, I'm you know,
back in the old Soviet days, right like I'm a
visiting you know, musician. I'm a violinist, and if I
go back to the you know, Moscow Royal Symphony, They're
going to execute me because I'm politically outspoken. Will you
(20:58):
guys take me in, put me back on the plane,
and I may be tortured and executed. That's what asylum
is for. What people are doing is they're showing up.
I mean, I used Pakistan before, you know, pick another country, Thailand,
they're showing. They're leaving Thailand, they're going They're flying into
you know, Peru or Venezuela or maybe Mexico directly, they're
(21:20):
transiting a third party to come to America and in
doing so, violating what would be necessary for them to
be a true asylum seeker because they're supposed to apply
clay in Mexico, that's actually the rule. So the whole
thing is a fraud. I don't know else people need
to hear. That's why I have all these single adult
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males who are scamming our system coming across the border,
millions of them now.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
And that's why I keep pointing out that this became
such a big issue. Know when I was in Italy
in March I was talking with Italian guys who were
taking us around in Naples, and Italy has had a
huge issue with illegals coming in from Africa because it's
(22:06):
not that far geographically. They want to get into the
EU where they could theoretically be able to get better
benefits and everything else than they would have in Africa.
What's crazy is even Europe, which has had a major issue, right,
this has turned into a monstrous issue all over Europe
too because they brought in so many immigrants and if
(22:29):
you follow geopolitical stories and even want to read about
what's going on there, whether it's France, whether it's Italy,
whether it's Germany, whether it's Sweden, Switzerland, England, all of
these countries are having immigrants come in who have no
interest whatsoever in becoming citizens of those countries that are
(22:49):
similar to the past. Right, France is fascinating for this
buck because France is actually a color where they say
we don't see a country where they say we don't
see color, we see you as French or not free.
And they actually have taken our phrase woke and they
call it wokism. That's not a very good French action,
but accent but the wa Wokism. By the way, little
(23:12):
beret On Clay all of a sudden a little bage
in his Handla Wokism. They savage in France, the idea
of the woke ideology, and this has been across the board.
They've had all these interesting disputes, for instance with me Too,
where a lot of people have come out women in
France and attacked the concept of me too. And Gerard Deperdeaux,
(23:36):
the most famous French actor. I can't believe that my
knowledge of France was probably not anywhere near as high
as people expected based on all this knowledge of French
geopolitics here. But my point on it is buck these
African immigrants are having more difficulty getting into Europe, even
(23:56):
though geographically it's far easier to get into to get
into Italy, to get into any of these countries from
North Africa. They're getting on planes to your point, they're
flying to Latin America or Mexico, and they're walking right
into our country. So, I mean, this is kind of
crazy to think about. It's easier for an African illegal
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immigrant to get in the United States, which should be
wildly difficult just based on raw geography, than it is
to actually get into Europe.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
You know, you also have to start looking at what
does it mean to have sovereignty and what does it
mean to have rule of law? You know, why is
it that we don't have Canadians voting in our elections.
Canadians speak the same language, they live right next door
to us, a lot of you know, you can't even
tell some Canadians you think they're Midwesterners. You know, they're
(24:49):
just as nice, just as polite, right, so you can't
tell the difference. And yet Hawaii, which is in the
middle of the Pacific Ocean, a totally separate land mass,
one of the most isolated island chains in the world,
those are Americans. Why is that? It's because it's American soil.
Because we have nation states that make these determinations, that
draw boundaries on a map and say we control what
(25:12):
goes on on this soil. The moment that all of
a sudden, anyone can show up and anyone can be
a part of this, and there's no by your leave necessary,
it's just I want to be here. I'm here. You
start to ask, well, how long do we really have
a country? How long do we have a cultural unit?
How long do we have linguistic ties, historical ties, a
(25:35):
shared heritage, a shared love of the way that we
do things here versus the way that we do things
somewhere else. I mean, I always point out in the
European context, Clay, it can feel even more obvious. You know,
you look at a country like the Netherlands. It's not
a very big country, right, It's not very big geographically,
it's not very big population wise. You let in a
million people from a very different culture. Very quickly, very suddenly,
(26:00):
you realize you're starting to be in a different political entity.
Now it's not the same country it was before you
let in five million people into a country of that size,
you're definitely in a different place, different laws, different and
you know, we could talk about those laws look like
and what the religious persuasion of some of the migrants
is versus what the people that are there. But this
is why you have so many governments in Europe that
(26:21):
are increasingly turning more right wing, more conservative, because the
people that live in these countries are saying, what's the point,
Like if you can just show off and you don't
have to learn the language, and you don't have to
feel like there's any affinity. You don't have to obey
our laws. Why am I here? Why would I give
my life for this place? Why do I pay taxes
to this place? Why can people show up at my
(26:43):
door and take away my freedom because I don't give
them the prescribed amount of taxation that they demand.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Well, and I think there's lots of people looking around
the country. Let's use our listeners. In Southeast Michigan right now.
I think a lot of people are looking around at
some of what is being said surrounding October seventh and
thinking to themselves, my goodness, how in the world are
we living in a state where there are huge portions
(27:13):
of Michigan now right dearborn, in particular, where large majorities
of Arab people living there don't believe that Israel should
exist and are using American political institutions as immigrants to
argue against, for instance.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Israel existing. It's just the culture of a place.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
And we haven't even talked about the clip that has
gone super viral of elon Omar arguing that basically she
exists to do the bidding of small eland and defend
Muslim interest in the United States, above her responsibilities as
a United States citizen and I think there are lots
of people asking these questions, not only the United States,
(27:58):
but just about nationhood in general. And remember, Puck, you
can't become a citizen of China. There is no immigration
to China. There's no immigration to Japan. By and large,
there are many big group of seven nations. The United
States is actually the outlier in terms of its incredible
welcoming nature, in terms of its birthright citizenship perspectives. These
(28:21):
things don't exist in many of the other largest economies
in the world.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
If immigration that is unrestricted doesn't put strain on the
load bearing walls of our republic, why do we have
immigration laws. There's no reason for them, right if there
was nothing that could go awry, if there were no
challenges that would come from just unrestricted, unrestrained, free flowing
(28:49):
immigration into this country. People say, oh, but what about
you know, what about the early eighteen hundreds. Those are pioneers.
There's no welfare state, folks. Okay, if you got here
on a creaking wooden ship and you didn't die of
scurvy or typhus or whatever it was, go out in
the woods with a hatchet. Nobody was putting you up
in a four star hotel in New York City and
saying we're gonna pay for your food and your health
(29:12):
care and your schooling, and you know, and you're gonna
be voting. Is so so the historical analogies people use
here are completely off. They don't even talk about how
a third of people that showed up at Ellis Island,
a third of people that made it into this country
legally self deported from America because it was so hard
(29:32):
to make a go of it here, because the immigrants
were in such challenging legal immigrants were in such challenging circumstance.
I've been to the Tenement Museum in the Lower East
Side of New York City. It's, man, it is sorry
you've ever been there, you see every show.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
I haven't been there, but I've I've read the stories
about the life and the way that people lived in
that era is quite a lot different than what people do.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Irish living, you know, eight eight in a room, you know,
and Italian and Jews living eight in a room in
the Lower east Side, and you know, there'd be outbreaks
of communical disease, and I mentioned typhus and typhoid and
these other things, and they just be stacking bodies like
firewood in front of the building, and you know, that
was just the deal. They were immigrants. You know, there
(30:16):
was no there was no huge outcry about now it
was inhumane and awful, but I'm just saying, that's what
people were getting on ships to come here for. And
that's why when you're talking about what's going on now,
people are flying here on a plane, walking across the
border and saying, where's all my free stuff? And they're
getting all their free stuff.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
And by the way, we're four percent of the world
population United States. If you're fortunate enough to be a
citizen of the United States, we are four percent of
the United States population. It's pretty wild to think about
the rate at which we are adding people illegally, and
and how many.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
People just don't have any issue with that. And you know,
the US is a pretty I'm going to say US
is a pretty arrogant place when it comes to the
rule of law. And we're the only country I know
of that has true global taxation. You're an American citizen,
you live anywhere, you are subject to US federal income tax.
You're living in an island in the South Pacific, but
you have in a US passport, you are subject to
(31:11):
US tax law. You're subject to all US federal laws
while you're traveling abroad, no matter where you are. Very
few countries have anything like that. So they're gonna say,
you can live somewhere else and not be subject to
anything other than holding a US passport and we'll tax you.
But immigration law, we're not going to enforce that. So
people can live next door to you illegally and get
(31:31):
government benefits for free, and there's no problem. I mean, look,
this is why it's the biggest issue in the country
right now. Let's take some calls. We come back. Eight
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Speaker 1 (32:54):
Several of you want to ask a few questions out there.
Eight hundred and two to two A two. John Kirby,
speaking live says the US will respond after the murder,
the death the killing of three service members by Iranian
backed terror organizations, that the US will respond at a
time and place of its choosing, so not giving us
(33:17):
very much information there. Chris in Indianapolis, Indiana, what you
got for us.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
Yeah, thank you very much. I'm kind of the where
the rubber meets the road kind of guy. With the
cartels being in charge of of all these people coming
across the border. My question is, I wonder who here
is working with the cartels to allow us to happen.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Well, thanks for the call, Chris. I don't know about
working here to allow it to happen. The cartels bring
all of the people to the border. They typically have
color coordinated wristbands to ensure that they have evidence that
these people have paid and contextualizing for Chris, they are
the size of this business. The Mexican drug cartels. Illegal
(34:07):
shipping of humans into our country is more profitable for
them than the NFL is in terms of revenue that
is produced. That's staggering for anybody out there to think
about the size of this business for the cartels and
how much money they're making. It's a bigger business than
the NFL is in the United States. But in terms
(34:29):
of who's participating here, I mean, I don't think anybody's
necessarily getting directly paid off. I think just the Biden
administration is allowing all of these people to come. It's
creating a tremendous business opportunity for the cartels, and in
conjunction with their illegal transit of drugs, they're also illegally
transiting people. They're just taking out advantage of the opportunity
(34:52):
that's there. Yeah, when you look at the amount of
money that these cartels are making between their human smuggling
and drug smuggling operation, and then you wonder rule of
law in Mexico not particularly strong, you start to think
who's really in charge of that government everybody? And I
think about how brazen it is.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
To be running mass international human smuggling operation the cartels
are doing. They're doing it in broad daylight. I've seen
I've seen them. I've seen the smugglers doing what they
do from the other side of the Rio Grande. And
guess what, they're not worried about it. They're not concerned.
They're not waiting for the federals to swoop in and
arrest them, and they don't care. So, you know, it's
not going to get better on the Mexican side of
(35:30):
the border anytime soon either, I can tell you that much.
They're just you know, hoping that they don't have an
all out cartel war in the meantime, but that's a
country where rule of law is unfortunately kind of a fiction.
Henry in California, what's up.
Speaker 7 (35:46):
Sex, Thanks good pleasure to talk to you, guys, my
first time calling.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
I have a question.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Thank you you guys.
Speaker 8 (35:51):
Maybe you can help me with my question. I have
support Donald Trump.
Speaker 7 (35:56):
I live in LA and I'm in the middle of
the train is of the war with all these leftis
of liberals. It's really hard, but I support Donald Trump
and his deportations strategy for his hopefully for his new administration.
It comes in on twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
I got twenty seconds.
Speaker 8 (36:14):
Wonder twenty yeah, right, I wonder if what are the
policies that could be implemented that obviously that are not
working now. I mean they could work, but what new
policies can.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Work to deportations lots of them and shutting down the war. Yeah.
Thanks for the Paul.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
We'll talk about that and the political ramifications of that,
as well as the latest on the terror attacks in
the Middle East.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
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