September 24, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show delivers a dynamic mix of political insight, cultural commentary, and exclusive interviews, headlined by a conversation with Congressman Jim Jordan. The hour opens with a deep dive into Big Tech censorship, as Jordan discusses YouTube’s recent admission of suppressing conservative voices, particularly during the COVID-19 pandemic. The hosts and Jordan explore the First Amendment implications, the lack of accountability, and the financial damage inflicted on independent creators and media outlets. Jordan highlights pending legislation that would allow individuals to sue government officials who pressure platforms to censor speech, reinforcing the need for free speech protections in the digital age.
The discussion shifts to the Let Experienced Pilots Fly Act, a bipartisan effort to address airline staffing shortages and reduce flight delays. Buck and Clay advocate for keeping skilled pilots in the air, citing safety, efficiency, and passenger satisfaction. Congressman Jordan supports the initiative and recommends engaging Transportation Committee Chairman Sam Graves for further insight.
Next, the conversation turns to the Score Act, a bill aimed at reforming college athletics. Jordan outlines its goals: promoting competitive balance, protecting non-revenue and Olympic sports, and ensuring athletes pursue education. The bill seeks to preserve Division I standards and address concerns over frequent transfers and lost academic opportunities.
Clay and Buck also tackle the Jimmy Kimmel controversy, arguing that his removal from certain affiliate stations was a business decision, not censorship. They criticize Kimmel’s partisan approach and lack of humor, suggesting that networks like Nexstar and Sinclair are responding to audience demand for more balanced programming.
The hour includes a humorous segment on Buck’s quest to hit a 100 mph tennis serve, which segues into a broader conversation about aging, parenting challenges, and sleep regression. Buck shares personal anecdotes about his newborn son and the realities of fatherhood, adding a relatable and lighthearted touch to the show.
In a geopolitical pivot, Buck announces his upcoming fact-finding trip to Taiwan, where he’ll meet with senior officials to discuss national security, semiconductor production, and the growing threat from China. He emphasizes Taiwan’s strategic importance, noting that it produces 90% of the world’s advanced semiconductors, making it a critical flashpoint in global politics.
The hosts then dissect Gavin Newsom’s claim that there may not be a 2028 election, calling it dishonest fear-mongering designed to energize the Democratic base. Clay offers to bet $10 million that the election will happen, framing Newsom’s rhetoric as dangerous and irresponsible.
The hour wraps with a viral moment from the White House, where President Trump humorously commemorates Joe Biden with an auto-pen image instead of a portrait, showcasing Trump’s unmatched comedic instincts in politics. Clay and Buck argue that Trump’s humor is a key part of his cultural appeal and predict Democrats will soon pivot from demonizing him to lamenting his irreplaceable political presence.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, second hour playing, but that's going right now. Congressman
Jim Jordan of the Great State of Ohio is with us. Congressman,
I always appreciate you making the time.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Sure, thank you to be with you, and good to
be with you guys. But let's have you hit one hundred.
Have you hit one hundred.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
It's been raining.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
It's been raining a lot of Miami, so the courts
have been wet. But it's happened in Congressman, I'm telling
you this right now. You're reminding me that a deal
is a deal, a bet is a bet. I'm gonna
get out there, Laura Travis very excited for me to
cross that one hundred mile per hour mark. I'm only
get ninety seven, so it's really quite a leap to
get there. But I'm going to get there, and I
promise you, Congressman, you will be among the first to
(00:42):
know it's going to happen this calendar year.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Now that good to hear. Thank you, Thank you the
video you said, by the way, I was impressed it was.
I mean, I don't I like watching sports. I'm not
a tennis player, but I was impressed. Good for me,
you hit the ball. I mean, I did think you'd
hit it that close to one hundred, but it was
pretty impressive.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
So I think, hey, I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
You know, I'm a middle aged guy and I can
pretty much crank that serve at ninety seven miles an hour,
I said Clay. I told Clay one hundred initially, so
it's not like I was way off. All these people
are saying sixty in the replies. These people are nuts.
They need to get a speed gun.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
All right.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
So so since we've got that out there, thank you
for the reminder, though, because that is gonna happen. I'm
in Taiwan next week, so not a lot of tennis.
Oh I just kind of let that slip, didn't I
not a lot of tennis going there, but I will
be doing it when I get back here to lovely
Miami beach. Okay YouTube, YouTube YouTube, let's take a look here.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Here's where I am on this.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
And maybe you're talking to the to the more cynical
of the duo, as you may know, Congressman, as you
do know, Okay YouTube admits what we've known from the beginning.
They censored, and they've been censoring terribly. So what does
anything happen because of this what's the action item? The
information is important. I think people need to know.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
It's sure, but what happens.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Well, they put it in writing. So if in the
future they go back on their word, then there's you know,
you can't lie to Congress. There's eighteen US the one
one thousand and one, So there's there's going forward. I
think there's that second. They are reinstating people who they
took their channel with. People I mean there was there
was big names like Dan Bongino. He gets his you know,
he gets his channel back, he gets he gets to
go back. I think more importantly it's the thousands of
(02:15):
people that they that they cut off will get to
come back to. So, uh, that's helpful. But you're right,
you know what what happened to him? And this, I
mean some of this is four or five years uh,
you know, because it goes back to the COVID and
people speaking out against all the false things that the
government told us. And when you spoke out against it,
you got centered, you get you lost your you lost
your uh your channel on YouTube. So the yeah, that's tough,
(02:36):
but you know, I look at the glass half half full.
Going forward, people are being reinstated. They've admitted to it.
They've they've said they will never use fact checkers like
some of these other platforms did, because we all know,
you know, these fact checkers were leftist who you know,
labeled all kinds of things misinformation, disinformation, and censored people.
So I think all that's positive, but I get what
you're saying. All we can do, though, is is is
(02:57):
the best we can and as we're as we're moving forward.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Jim, I appreciate you coming on with us, and I
appreciate you calling out Buck because I've forgotten and it
is interesting how the rain has been coming down and
this allowed of.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Me rainy season hurricanes, excuse me, very tough for the
outdoor courts here, but you may proceed. Clay, we were
banned OutKick was banned. You had me in your credit
to come testify. I think back in February or March
of twenty one, they made me wear a mask. I
think it's like the only time I ever wore a mask,
even to testify at the hearing that was at the
(03:30):
absolute apex of we're going to restrict speech. So you've
been fighting these battles for a long time. I think
you deserve a lot of credit with that in mind.
One of the things that buck and I are super
frustrated by is there basically are no consequences. And I'm
curious what you think here. When YouTube banned us, when
they gave.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Us strikes, when they took us down, when they didn't
allow our videos to circulate, it had very real financial
consequences for a company that I owned at the time,
OutKick now thought Zones. But they're as Bucket's pointing out,
there are a lot of people out there that are
just trying to make two three four grand a month
off YouTube and that is a huge part of their
ability to fund what they're doing, and saying shouldn't there
(04:14):
be some sort of consequences, shouldn't Google, Slash YouTube have
to make some sort of I'm just tossing this out there,
huge payment to fund free speech so that they could
actually be sued by lawyers actually committed to free speech,
not what the ACL you used to do, Like what organization,
what way are their consequences, Because it seems pretty convenient
(04:36):
for YouTube now to say, oh, yeah, we did this.
We wouldn't allow this in a court of law, by
and large, when you admit wrongdoing. Usually there is a
consequence for the wrongdoing. Here there seems to be none.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, and we're working on We have legislation. Hart Hageman
a wonderful member from all our committee, and she's got
a bill that says if the government, you can go
after the government if they're pressuring people to censor you.
I mean, that's that's you know, classic violation of First Amendments.
So we're looking at at that. Like individuals in the government,
you'd have a private right of action. So we're looking
at that legislation we passed this last Congress out of committee.
(05:11):
We're looking to bring that back. But it is tough
to go after. I mean, maybe you can get a
class together and see if it works and say, you know,
these people were all kicked off, they were all lost,
you know, such and such revenue, this is their damage.
You might be able to do that, But I think
that's again, I think it's tough. And so what we're
trying to focus on is, Look, they've admitted to what
they did. They admitted that it came from the Biden administration,
(05:33):
they cave to it. They did this. It's not going
to happen very similar frankly to the letter Mark Zuckerberg
sentis last August where he said the same thing. The
Biden administration pressure is the censure. We did it, We're sorry,
we're going to stop, And to his credit, they've actually
changed policy there. They use the community notes approach to
posts that are put on their site or on their platform,
just like Elon does at X. So again I look
(05:56):
at the positive, but I get it. You know it
happened to you directly. I was shadow Band. There was
four of us members shadow Band back in twenty eighteen
by Twitter, before Elon had purchased that company. So I
know it's tough, but we've got to move forward and
look at the bright sid.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I think Congressman something that, as I mentioned, I'm gonna
be traveling a lot next week and the weeks after,
and Clay and I are actually gonna doing a bunch
of events, So flying is on my mind. And I've
seen some reporting again, because I think the most frustrating
thing is when it's crystal clear skies. Everything's fine, everyone's there,
(06:31):
we got there, we got through TSA, we did the
whole they did the whole thing, and then we're told
there's no crew there, Sorry, don't have people to actually
do the plane flying thing. You know, there's this let pilots,
let experience pilots fly bill that's been kicking around Cruise
as a sponsor Marshall Blackburn Center sponsor, as a sponsor
(06:55):
on the Senate side, is this actually something you guys
on the House side are looking at doing too, because
this is one of those things where we could get
some of the best pilots. We have to keep flying,
which means everybody's one in safe hands. Two the newer
pilots get better instruction, and three we have to wait
less at the gate for a couple of hours at
a time.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Can you guys get this done? Where is this?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I'm all for it. I'm not on the Transportation Committee,
but I'm all for it. I travel like the last
three weekends, I've been in Vegas and Sacramento one weekend,
Dallas the next weekend last week, and I went from
North Carolina to North Dakota. So I mean, I'm just
like you. We fly all the time, and you want
the best pilots, and you want it to be on
time and not have to mean the delays when it's
(07:35):
backed up and you can't even use land and you
can't even get to a gate because the gates are
all well, I mean, they're just on and on and on.
So it's frustrating. Yeah, and to the extent that you know,
allowing good pilots to stick around and continue to operate,
I think that's great. In fact, I had a pilot
talk to me at a fundraising. I forget what state
we were in, but he talked to me about this
very bill, and I said, yeah, this makes sense. I
(07:55):
hope we hope we do.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Get who on the Transportation committee you think, I mean,
who can we have on to talk.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
About this is damn Graves To have the chairman, Chairman Graves,
good man, he's shared that committee for a number of years.
Have him on and he can tell you in.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Clay, I'm telling you, yeah, I know you're a big
Southwest fan. We get this thing through and you're gonna
thank me because your delays are gonna drop. And by
the way, the older pilots are all the Clay and
buck listeners too, They're the ones that are all about
this show.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
I fly Southwest everywhere. You know, I'm not a bragger.
I don't like to draw attention to myself, as everyone
well knows, I have two million Southwest Airlines points. That's how.
And on my last Southwest Airlines flight from New York
City to Nashville, I don't think I said this on
the air. The pilots wanted to come out and shake hands.
They're like love the shows, like I was posing for
(08:42):
photos with the flight attendants. So I've got a lot
of awesome people at Southwest and I enjoy meeting everybody there. Congressman,
what is the latest? You were working hard and I
don't know the absolute latest, but the score act. I
know there are a lot of people out there that
are big college football fans, college sports fans in general,
are in the midst of the fall football season. What's
(09:03):
the latest there? What can you tell us?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
We're working on getting some Democrats to vote for it.
We have some some great supporters out there who want to,
you know, looking at some changes. You know, we got
a Cody Campbell, great guy with a big, big booster,
Texas Tech talking about some things that he thinks can happen,
particularly I think maybe better suited for the Senate. But
we're we're looking at those as well. The bill is
through committee. We do have some Democrats support for it.
(09:28):
I think there's strong support for it. To use your lingo, uh,
play with you know, people in the Southeast Conference part
of the country and the Big Ten part of the country.
So we'll we'll see, But we do want to get
this done and we continue to work on it. We
think it's a darn good start uh to help with
you know, I when we started this process, I said,
(09:48):
I think there are three things we we want to
focus on. We want we want real competition. Want some parody.
You don't want just the same teams winning all the time,
as much as I'd like to see the Badgers and
the buck guys, you know, always at the top. You
want you some parody. Uh. You you don't want to diminish
opportunity for athletes.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
UH.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
The USOC is very concerned about what happens to the
so called non revenue sports, the Olympic sports and women's sports,
and so we're trying to see how we can be
helpful there. And part of the thing in the bill
is we don't want any school to drop the sports
at state Division one you got to have sixteen. We
kept that in the We put that in the bill,
and then Finally, I do think we at some point
(10:26):
got to remember it's supposed to be about getting an education.
You got some of these athletes in football and basketball
who transfer, you know, six times in five years and
never get a degree. I don't think that's helpful to
the system or to that to that individual. So we're
trying to have those overall objectives in mind when we
put this legislation together. So we're not quite there yet.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
What should happen with Jimmy Kimmel. You know, we're going
to talk about this, I think at some point during
the course of the show. But you know, with the
YouTube we started off the show by saying, and I
think it's really important that Jimmy Kimmel is a small
pinprick of the importance of what Google and YouTube were doing.
Any comedian would be relative to the policies those companies
come in place. And Next Star and Sinclair are still
(11:10):
not caring. Meaning I'm not sure where your affiliate station is, jim,
But I know here in Nashville, I couldn't watch last
night if I wanted to. They have news on I'm
a Next Star affiliate here in the ABC Nashville market.
What in your mind is the right solution here if
you were the magic wand guy and you got to
analyze this.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Well, I looked at this the way you've always described
to Claire. I looked at this as Republicans by sneakers too.
Republicans watched Late Night TV two and I think Next
Star and Sinclair just said, you know, our we just
don't think it's appropriate that you know, excuse me if
your late night talk show hosts, you should you should
not do two things. You shouldn't kick off half the
potential audience and you and you should be funny. And
(11:50):
it seems like Jimmy Kimmel was failing on both of
those those two things. So I think I think Nextarn
and uh, Next Star and uh Sinclair said, we just
like something different, Frank. So I think this is a
business decision largely, and you know, it couldn't just be
the government censoring because ABC or Disney putting back on.
So yeah, I did. I think I looked at it
(12:11):
all throughout this whole thing, and I understand what what
Commissioner Carr said, but I looked at it largely as
this was a business deal. Next Star came Forard and said, no,
we want we want something different, and you can't blame
him for that because I think I think they're losing
money on the show ABC is. I didn't really thought
he was really that funny. It was all just we know,
it was all just attacking Trump all the time, and
(12:33):
and half the country doesn't doesn't particularly care for that.
So that's how I viewed it versus government government doing
what they did. And in all these areas where we
have emails from the Biden administration saying take down this
tweet a sap, and then with a tweet from RFK
Junior when he was running for president against Joe Biden
for goodness sake, So that's as bad as it gets.
It said, the Biden administration set up the disinformation governance
(12:57):
for most allwellian thing in history front of bureau, tell
you what you can say.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Ni Jenkowitz, I haven't forgotten her name.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Totally, totally. So so that's a that's a completely different
animal than next our saying we don't think our audience
really likes this show. We just assume be something else
that's a business called my mind.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Totally agree.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Congress and Jim Jordan will have you back and there
will be video of one hundred mile an hour service.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
It will happen. I will not be doing it. It's
gonna happen. Thank you, sir, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Speaking of speaking of serving up one hundred miles an
I'm glad we were reminded of this important, this important
milestone that middle aged buck is going to hit one way,
one way or another.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
And uh, I like, you're now calling yourself middle aged.
This happened out of nowhere. You used to be like, oh,
I'm a youthful guy, and now like, maybe tell you
middle aged, Like I'll talk you to be able to
get out of bed in the morning. I'm I'm gonna
let you a little secret.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
And now this probably isn't unique to tennis, but I
think it's more common in tennis. Everyone who plays tennis,
I don't you all know those those who play on
a regular basis, you know, play some USTA matches, or
play the club championship or the you know, local ladder
in their neighborhood or whatever.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
They're always like, oh, I haven't played so long. Oh
my shoulder has been really awful.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Like every time you talk to somebody you're about to
play tennis with, it's oh, my achilles has been so tight.
I haven't had surgery on it yet, but I'm really
you know, plubby bla. It's all a big psychout game.
So yeah, of course I'm playing up the middle aged
thing now Clay technically true, so I'm milking it for
all that it's worth. But middle aged buck is going
to get that hundred mile an hour surf somehow. I'll
find three more mph on my serve than the last
(14:38):
time out there. I did get a better system, but
you know what part of my system is chalk, friends,
cause I cannot let this go. I will not be denied.
And Chalk is like in the corner there, urging me on,
giving me that energy, drive and focus.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
I don't want to.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I don't want to end up like one of these
Biden Kamala voters like.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
I couldn't hit this over one hundred miles an hour.
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Speaker 4 (15:48):
Know what's you don't know right, but you could. On
the Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck podcast, Welcome back
in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton show. Let's get to some
of your talkbacks. A lot of reaction weighing in, I
don't know that this is true. You get a lot
of historical discussion on the show. TJ and Denver. We
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Speaker 5 (16:18):
Clay buck Writing messages on ammunition started World War Two
with bomber's business everything else. It's kind of interesting that
it's been picked up at a local level. We always
send messages to those that we bombed, so it's a
natural extension to a really sick mind.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Yeah. I've seen those old school photos buck of but
those are typically like bombs, right, not so.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Much as it's morale for troops fighting the enemy. Yeah,
but I mean you asked me, you know, you asked me, like,
is this a thing that people know? This is not
a thing that people You might do it if you're
fighting the Nazi war machine or if you're a lunatic terrorist,
but like, no, when I go to the range, people
aren't sitting there etching into It's really the casing, right,
the case. There's the cartridge, the whole thing. The bullet
(17:02):
is the part that actually you know, zoom through the air,
and then the casing is the part of it that
holds the powder the charge. No, no one's writing on
their casings, like, and that's not a thing. I do
think it's interesting historical analogy there. Some of these people
think they're warriors fighting Nazis.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Well, this is what I mean.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
I mean that's when they were writing on the bombs,
when they were fighting Nazis.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
That's right. They in their mind see themselves as heroic
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It's a man of exceptional taste and wisdom and definitely
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reading the memoir last night.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
It was very how late did you stay up with
your friend Kamala's book. I spent a solid hour before
I went to bed just reading. I was very excited.
It had automatically downloaded to my Kindle because I was
a pre purchaser, So I gotta I gotta pump those numbers.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
One.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
What is your What does your wife think when she
comes to get in bed and you are just curled
up comfortably reading Kamala Harris's book? Does she make fun
of you at all? What is her take on this?
Speaker 1 (19:38):
I could come up with something clever to say here,
but the truth is the baby's been waking up about
every hour all night long, so she's just thinking, how
are we going to get through the night? So you
are now because for a while there you had angel
baby that was sleeping perfectly on. So I'm just gonna
tell you guys this because yeah, okay, maybe I need
(19:59):
to learn a little humility on this one. As a
new parent, a lot of people are like, oh, are
you okay In the first three four months, and I
was like, okay, the baby is adorable and sleeps seven
eight hours a night every night. It was just like,
we didn't do anything. The baby just sleeps. And I
told my sister this. You know, I've got a little nephew,
and she had a very tough sleep schedule kind of
(20:19):
baby situation, and she couldn't believe it.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
She's like, what do you mean your baby sleep? Seven?
I was, look, he just I don't know what to
tell you.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
The baby just as I've had no how many times
have I showed up Clay and said, you all not
getting any sleep?
Speaker 4 (20:30):
And I'm like, no, it's been fine.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
That has changed and the last month it has been,
uh it has been.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
And now Carrie's taking the brunt of it. But you know,
I try to help out.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
And I'm also in the in the room when she's
getting up to go tend to the baby. I understand
what you parents are talking about when you're like, are
you okay?
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Now I need people to ask if I'm okay because
the sleep situation. I mean, Carrie's a trooper pushing through
all this. Every hour, I don't know, just every hour
little guys wake it up. I mean, he's I think
it's called the sleep regression. They say the five month
or six month's sleep regret. I heard it's very common.
Our first was I get Wara was an unbelievable trooper
with our oldest it was. It was brutal how bad
(21:10):
he was at sleeping. But it was funny to me
because for a few months, little baby Speed was just
always smiling and so happy and just sleeping and so smiley.
And people were like, how are you guys doing? And
I was like, this is amazing, and I have ten
more of these like this is now I'm like, this
parent thing is tough, this could be this can be
a little bit of a challenge sometimes. So I've learned.
I've learned the the curve has bent in the other
(21:31):
direction right now for the effort and the challenges here. Okay,
now to so yes, I was reading Kamalists and look
reading this thing, I want to get into a more
fulesome discussion of it when we're more focused on on
where Kamal is and all this. I would just say, uh,
it is very boring, and it is very clear that
(21:52):
she I didn't even know if she spent any time
at all even telling the ghostwriters what you're right. This
thing is is a book by committee. It's they've got
a couple of people, probably three or four writers who
were working on it or something Kamala didn't write a
word of it. Now I know that's not unusual, but
it just comes across as completely just like it's just
so inauthentic. It's I figured that it would read like
(22:15):
it was a like a mckimsey consulting platform where eight
different people have all weighed in and it's just bland
and inauthentic.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Well, and she and she knew. I mean, I'll tell
So this is the phase of the book that I'm in.
The phase of the book is.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Kamala discussing the lead up to her becoming the nominee.
And I'm only a few chapters in. I didn't read
that much last night. And also the disastrous debate. And
of course she's like, I, I was worried about him
going into this debate. And and by the way, she
affirms what I had said all along, because people were
saying that they pushed him to debate so they could
(22:53):
push him out. That's absolutely made no sense. That's absolutely
not true. His advisors thought. And this is from Kammalin. Now,
now I understand, this isn't a book, so it's all
you know, this is in intelligence circles. You would say
this is meant to influence as well as inform. Right,
this is not just someone giving you information. They're trying
to create a narrative. I get that, But this is
(23:14):
Kamala Harris saying, Oh, the advisors thought that they could
just get through this one night and then it would
all be fine. And she claims in the book that
she was of the mind that Joe should just not
debate at all, because basically all of the strategizing Clay,
if I may say so, that I was doing from
a Democrat mindset. He shouldn't debate. It's a disaster. Trump
(23:37):
didn't debate. He should just she says, whether you believe
it or not, she agreed with that, and that a
few of Biden's inner circle were convinced that he would
be able to not be okay for months, but for
one night he.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Could pull it off. And they said, look, they said
in original sin, Yeah they really, so that really just
be clear everybody that really was They thought they could,
you know, hoodwink everybody. They thought they could bamboozle us
one more time and that's all they had to do.
So it was a giant roll of the dice and
it came up snake eyes, right, mister gambling man, that's bad.
That's correct. You don't want the snake eyes. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
So that's one part of it that I thought was
interesting so far. I'll give you more coomoologist analysis as
I get further and deeper into the book. I also
mentioned that I am going to be clay Is solo
on the radio next week, and I was gonna wait
until Thursday to talk about this, but I talk a
little bit today. I am going on a fact finding
mission to Taiwan. I am scheduled to meet with some
(24:38):
of the most senior people in the time Whenese government.
I want to speak to them Clay about national security
with China and how that's looking, how the Trump administration
is doing vis a v not just Taiwanese but regional relations.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
How did the time.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Whenese feel about allies like Japan in this moment, and where,
you know, where do they feel about By the way,
this is the the most important national security flashpoint and
the most important economic choke point in the world right now.
Taiwan makes ninety percent of the top end chips silicon,
the silicon wafers that are needed to make an integrated circuit. Essentially,
(25:17):
they make ninety percent of the top end ones and
sixty percent of overall. Clay, none of the smart tech
that we have anywhere can function without Taiwini's production. Nowhere
else in the world can they make this stuff. And
China is saying they're going to take this island in
the next two years. So I talked to Clay about
this as a Clay I just you know, I'm going
on my own time, but it's also on behalf of
(25:37):
the show because I'm going to be interviewing people and
I'm going to be and Clay said, go for it.
Originally we were going to go together, but we realized
the logistics of that We're gonna be a a little
more challenging. But so I'll be out next week, but
I'll be in Taiwan trying to find out as much
as I can about what I think in the next
two years will be the most important geopolitical challenge in
the world. I mean, Ukraine is already a hot war
(26:00):
and we got to figure out how to wind that
thing down. But I think that's just going to grind
on for another few years. I don't think it's going
to change very much. This is a situation clay with China.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
You've talked about.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Remember when they when they hit Iran Iran with the reactors,
and also when the Ukraine War started, You're like, maybe
China's going to go for it. China goes for Taiwan
in any meaningful way, we have a We wake up
in a different world, truly, all of us, all of you,
whether you care about foreign policy or not. The markets
will the markets will be absolutely rocked. You'll see trillions
(26:31):
of dollars of wealth evaporate. I mean, it's it's scary stuff.
So I want to know what's going Look, hopefully none
of that happens. They continue a sort of status quo
and everything is great. But I think this is you know,
part of what we do on this show is try
to get ahead of where things are going. I'm telling
you this is going to be a big issue, and
it's going to be a big issue that the Trump
administration has to figure out. We're not just going to
(26:51):
be able to backburn or this.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
So that's a big trip. That's a long airplane flight.
So you are headed over there all of next week
and then you'll be back. Maybe you'll send some stuff
in from Taiwan, but that I'm I'm hoping can get
some high level interviews.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
You know, it's not it's not all set in stone
because they've got some very important stuff.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Going on over there.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
But I am going, you know, and we're going to
air some some of it on the show, assuming that
the people that I'm trying to sit down with will
sit down with me. But we're just gonna learn as
much as we can over there. Uh, and that's the
that's the plan. So really, you for to go ahead? No,
I was gonna say, do you want to play Gavin
Newsom here? Because we started off with you, We're gonna
play Yeah?
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Yeah, Sorry, I I.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Digress, But I realized I left the Taiwan thing rip
when I was talking to Jim Jordan. It's kind of
like when some of you found out that I was
having a carry but we're having a baby, because the
top of the show, it just, uh it bled into
the audio and I was like, well, you know, carry's
almost things that of all the things that could have leaked,
the fact that you were having a baby was the
thing that leaked off. It was very nice, Honestly, it
(27:54):
was very touching because my inbox and mentions and everything
was just full of wonderful listeners who were saying the
sweetest things, but the fact that we were expecting a
little baby boy. But it was funny because I was
going to do like a real announcement about it, and
I just kind of let it fly in an off
moment break to Clay.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
And it went on the air.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Okay, Gavin Newsom, back to the meat and potatoes here
of the news cycle, Gavin Newsom. Here he is saying
the kind of stuff that really ticks me off, but
this is very normal for him. That we're not even
going to have this is nineteen, not going to have
election in twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
We're struggling to communicate. We're struggling to win back now
the majority in the House of Representatives. And that's a
big part of what I'm doing, not just today in
terms of the work out here raising money, but also
raising awareness around how Donald Trump is trying to rig
the midterm elections and how I fear that we will
not have an election in twenty twenty eight. I really
(28:52):
mean that, and the core of my soul unless we
wake up to the code red what's happening in this country,
wake up soberly to how serious this.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Moment is clarcy, what is that?
Speaker 1 (29:06):
What is he really doing here saying that he and
his soul believes we're not even going to have an
election in twenty twenty eight?
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Like, what's the play as you see it? First of all,
I went on Twitter and I reiterated what I said
the last time he said this. I will put ten
million dollars up against Gavin. He can get it from
his donors that we will have an election in twenty
twenty eight. I don't even I think the Democrat base
(29:32):
eats this up. And I think this is already starting
the race in twenty twenty eight. I think that's the reality.
He can't possibly believe this. If you believe it, why
are you already effectively running for president? What does he
think this is going to happen? That Trump's going to
announce win? First of all, because the presidential race is
(29:53):
going to start in January of twenty seven, in earnest,
and by January of twenty eight will have the primaries
actually starting. So when exactly would Trump cancel the twenty
twenty eight election. I think Trump's going to eat up
the twenty twenty eight election because he's going to see
it as some form of an apprentice. It's a reality
(30:14):
television show made for him to be the king maker
on the Republican side of the equation, and probably to
weigh in a lot on the Democrat side of the
equation too. I just I look at this and I
think that it must be that the base of the
Democrat Party is so crazy that telling them that Trump
is going to cancel elections in some way paradoxically makes
(30:37):
Gavin Newsom a bigger favorite in twenty twenty eight. So
that's the motivation, I think what's going on here. He
clearly does not believe it. And this is part and parcel, unfortunately,
of why we're getting all these left wing political attacks,
because enough of the base of the Democrat Party believes
(30:58):
this that they're willing to kill Charlie Kirk, and that
they're willing to try to kill President Trump, and that
they are willing to frankly burn down Josh Shapiro's governor's mansion.
By the way, that was left wing political violence too,
even addressed against Democrats. There is a lot of crazy.
There are a lot of crazy people out there, and
(31:20):
the Democrat base is overwhelmingly made up of a lot
of crazy people, and they want to hear this fear
porn is. I think it titilates them. I think it
drives them. And Gavin Newsom is playing on it even
though he knows it's untrue, which is I think one
of the most dishonest things a politician can do. And
(31:42):
it's one thing if you actually have a strong opinion
that might be controversial, we might disagree with. I think
Bernie Sanders has a lot of opinions that he truly
believes that are wrong, and I disagree with him, but
I at least respect his right to make the argument.
Gavin Newsom doesn't believe this. He's lying. He just knows
it's politically and take just to say it, and he's
trying to take advantage of it. And that's the reality.
(32:03):
And it's hard to respect anybody adopting that perspective.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Some of these lunatic Democrats that you'll hear, I think
they actually believe the lunatic stuff, lunatic stuff that they say.
I don't think Avin Newsom believes one iota well a
sentilla of this nonsense.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
That's right. He's just playing them for fools. And there's
ten million dollars. Take me up on it, Gavin, I
feel really good about me winning the ten million. I'll
donate it to people out there so they can sue
for some endment cases. He's not going to respond because
he's a liar and he knows that this is a lie.
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with us as we are rolling through the program. White
House has just posted a video and it's a little
bit hard to describe how funny it is on the
radio because there is a punchline that comes at the
end that I'm going to spoil a bit for all
of you. But they have a west wing outdoor patio
(34:09):
walkway that white wall there that they have covered with
portraits or photographs of all the past presidents. And Margot Martin,
who is one of the president's top assistants, works there
in the oval office with him, just posted a video
of her walking along showing it and you can see
all the past presidents, and it gets to the first
(34:31):
Trump portrait, and then it goes to where Joe Biden's
portrait should be, and they have instead of a portrait
of Joe Biden, they have just a picture of the
auto pen, which is really really funny and also going
to drive people absolutely bonkers. I don't know who came
up with this idea in the West Wing. The comedic
(34:54):
sensibilities and we have talked about this a lot of
Trump are probably his most underrated characteristic because this is
a very very funny idea. It's the kind of idea
that you're sitting around and somebody comes up with when
you're having you know, beers after a long work day,
and people would laugh about it. Never do it. Trump's like,
great idea, do it. And so as a result, Joe
(35:15):
Biden is officially commemorated on the White House walkway now
with just an auto pin signing his name. Everybody else
has got a portrait. They have an autopin of Joe Biden,
which is very, very funny.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
One thing Democrats have never even been able to pretend
they could match in politics is have anybody at the
Trump level of politics who is as funny as he is, yes,
which you know, Democrats like to think of themselves as
the entertainers, and we've got all of Hollywood and everything else.
Trump is not just a political phenomenon and a cultural phenomenon.
(35:50):
He is by far the funniest politician in our lifetime. Honestly,
I mean really gonna have some great lines. But he
wasn't like a comedian, which is why as soon as
the midterms are over, they're gonna pivot. I'm telling you,
get ready for it, as you're gonna be on whiplash.
They're gonna pivot from Trump's Hitler to Republicans are never
(36:10):
gonna be able to replace Trump. In fact, that will
be their entire argument of much of twenty twenty seven. Now,
when they get into twenty twenty eighth, they'll probably go
back to insert whomever the nominee is is Hitler, he's
even worse than Trump. That'll be the pivot when they
actually get to the general election because they have nothing
else to argue.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
But they're gonna start arguing soon and recognizing the unique
political talents of Trump. When we come back. We got
Senator Rick Scott joining us at the bottom of the
final hour, but we'll dive into some of the Jimmy
Kimmel talk what do we think there, and also continue
to update you on all the news, the Ice shooting
and more
Okay, second hour playing, but that's going right now. Congressman
Jim Jordan of the Great State of Ohio is with us. Congressman,
I always appreciate you making the time.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Sure, thank you to be with you, and good to
be with you guys. But let's have you hit one hundred.
Have you hit one hundred.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
It's been raining.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
It's been raining a lot of Miami, so the courts
have been wet. But it's happened in Congressman, I'm telling
you this right now. You're reminding me that a deal
is a deal, a bet is a bet. I'm gonna
get out there, Laura Travis very excited for me to
cross that one hundred mile per hour mark. I'm only
get ninety seven, so it's really quite a leap to
get there. But I'm going to get there, and I
promise you, Congressman, you will be among the first to
(00:42):
know it's going to happen this calendar year.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Now that good to hear. Thank you, Thank you the
video you said, by the way, I was impressed it was.
I mean, I don't I like watching sports. I'm not
a tennis player, but I was impressed. Good for me,
you hit the ball. I mean, I did think you'd
hit it that close to one hundred, but it was
pretty impressive.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
So I think, hey, I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
You know, I'm a middle aged guy and I can
pretty much crank that serve at ninety seven miles an hour,
I said Clay. I told Clay one hundred initially, so
it's not like I was way off. All these people
are saying sixty in the replies. These people are nuts.
They need to get a speed gun.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
All right.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
So so since we've got that out there, thank you
for the reminder, though, because that is gonna happen. I'm
in Taiwan next week, so not a lot of tennis.
Oh I just kind of let that slip, didn't I
not a lot of tennis going there, but I will
be doing it when I get back here to lovely
Miami beach. Okay YouTube, YouTube YouTube, let's take a look here.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Here's where I am on this.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
And maybe you're talking to the to the more cynical
of the duo, as you may know, Congressman, as you
do know, Okay YouTube admits what we've known from the beginning.
They censored, and they've been censoring terribly. So what does
anything happen because of this what's the action item? The
information is important. I think people need to know.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
It's sure, but what happens.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Well, they put it in writing. So if in the
future they go back on their word, then there's you know,
you can't lie to Congress. There's eighteen US the one
one thousand and one, So there's there's going forward. I
think there's that second. They are reinstating people who they
took their channel with. People I mean there was there
was big names like Dan Bongino. He gets his you know,
he gets his channel back, he gets he gets to
go back. I think more importantly it's the thousands of
(02:15):
people that they that they cut off will get to
come back to. So, uh, that's helpful. But you're right,
you know what what happened to him? And this, I
mean some of this is four or five years uh,
you know, because it goes back to the COVID and
people speaking out against all the false things that the
government told us. And when you spoke out against it,
you got centered, you get you lost your you lost
your uh your channel on YouTube. So the yeah, that's tough,
(02:36):
but you know, I look at the glass half half full.
Going forward, people are being reinstated. They've admitted to it.
They've they've said they will never use fact checkers like
some of these other platforms did, because we all know,
you know, these fact checkers were leftist who you know,
labeled all kinds of things misinformation, disinformation, and censored people.
So I think all that's positive, but I get what
you're saying. All we can do, though, is is is
(02:57):
the best we can and as we're as we're moving forward.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Jim, I appreciate you coming on with us, and I
appreciate you calling out Buck because I've forgotten and it
is interesting how the rain has been coming down and
this allowed of.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Me rainy season hurricanes, excuse me, very tough for the
outdoor courts here, but you may proceed. Clay, we were
banned OutKick was banned. You had me in your credit
to come testify. I think back in February or March
of twenty one, they made me wear a mask. I
think it's like the only time I ever wore a mask,
even to testify at the hearing that was at the
(03:30):
absolute apex of we're going to restrict speech. So you've
been fighting these battles for a long time. I think
you deserve a lot of credit with that in mind.
One of the things that buck and I are super
frustrated by is there basically are no consequences. And I'm
curious what you think here. When YouTube banned us, when
they gave.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Us strikes, when they took us down, when they didn't
allow our videos to circulate, it had very real financial
consequences for a company that I owned at the time,
OutKick now thought Zones. But they're as Bucket's pointing out,
there are a lot of people out there that are
just trying to make two three four grand a month
off YouTube and that is a huge part of their
ability to fund what they're doing, and saying shouldn't there
(04:14):
be some sort of consequences, shouldn't Google, Slash YouTube have
to make some sort of I'm just tossing this out there,
huge payment to fund free speech so that they could
actually be sued by lawyers actually committed to free speech,
not what the ACL you used to do, Like what organization,
what way are their consequences, Because it seems pretty convenient
(04:36):
for YouTube now to say, oh, yeah, we did this.
We wouldn't allow this in a court of law, by
and large, when you admit wrongdoing. Usually there is a
consequence for the wrongdoing. Here there seems to be none.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, and we're working on We have legislation. Hart Hageman
a wonderful member from all our committee, and she's got
a bill that says if the government, you can go
after the government if they're pressuring people to censor you.
I mean, that's that's you know, classic violation of First Amendments.
So we're looking at at that. Like individuals in the government,
you'd have a private right of action. So we're looking
at that legislation we passed this last Congress out of committee.
(05:11):
We're looking to bring that back. But it is tough
to go after. I mean, maybe you can get a
class together and see if it works and say, you know,
these people were all kicked off, they were all lost,
you know, such and such revenue, this is their damage.
You might be able to do that, But I think
that's again, I think it's tough. And so what we're
trying to focus on is, Look, they've admitted to what
they did. They admitted that it came from the Biden administration,
(05:33):
they cave to it. They did this. It's not going
to happen very similar frankly to the letter Mark Zuckerberg
sentis last August where he said the same thing. The
Biden administration pressure is the censure. We did it, We're sorry,
we're going to stop, And to his credit, they've actually
changed policy there. They use the community notes approach to
posts that are put on their site or on their platform,
just like Elon does at X. So again I look
(05:56):
at the positive, but I get it. You know it
happened to you directly. I was shadow Band. There was
four of us members shadow Band back in twenty eighteen
by Twitter, before Elon had purchased that company. So I
know it's tough, but we've got to move forward and
look at the bright sid.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I think Congressman something that, as I mentioned, I'm gonna
be traveling a lot next week and the weeks after,
and Clay and I are actually gonna doing a bunch
of events, So flying is on my mind. And I've
seen some reporting again, because I think the most frustrating
thing is when it's crystal clear skies. Everything's fine, everyone's there,
(06:31):
we got there, we got through TSA, we did the
whole they did the whole thing, and then we're told
there's no crew there, Sorry, don't have people to actually
do the plane flying thing. You know, there's this let pilots,
let experience pilots fly bill that's been kicking around Cruise
as a sponsor Marshall Blackburn Center sponsor, as a sponsor
(06:55):
on the Senate side, is this actually something you guys
on the House side are looking at doing too, because
this is one of those things where we could get
some of the best pilots. We have to keep flying,
which means everybody's one in safe hands. Two the newer
pilots get better instruction, and three we have to wait
less at the gate for a couple of hours at
a time.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Can you guys get this done? Where is this?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I'm all for it. I'm not on the Transportation Committee,
but I'm all for it. I travel like the last
three weekends, I've been in Vegas and Sacramento one weekend,
Dallas the next weekend last week, and I went from
North Carolina to North Dakota. So I mean, I'm just
like you. We fly all the time, and you want
the best pilots, and you want it to be on
time and not have to mean the delays when it's
(07:35):
backed up and you can't even use land and you
can't even get to a gate because the gates are
all well, I mean, they're just on and on and on.
So it's frustrating. Yeah, and to the extent that you know,
allowing good pilots to stick around and continue to operate,
I think that's great. In fact, I had a pilot
talk to me at a fundraising. I forget what state
we were in, but he talked to me about this
very bill, and I said, yeah, this makes sense. I
(07:55):
hope we hope we do.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Get who on the Transportation committee you think, I mean,
who can we have on to talk.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
About this is damn Graves To have the chairman, Chairman Graves,
good man, he's shared that committee for a number of years.
Have him on and he can tell you in.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Clay, I'm telling you, yeah, I know you're a big
Southwest fan. We get this thing through and you're gonna
thank me because your delays are gonna drop. And by
the way, the older pilots are all the Clay and
buck listeners too, They're the ones that are all about
this show.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
I fly Southwest everywhere. You know, I'm not a bragger.
I don't like to draw attention to myself, as everyone
well knows, I have two million Southwest Airlines points. That's how.
And on my last Southwest Airlines flight from New York
City to Nashville, I don't think I said this on
the air. The pilots wanted to come out and shake hands.
They're like love the shows, like I was posing for
(08:42):
photos with the flight attendants. So I've got a lot
of awesome people at Southwest and I enjoy meeting everybody there. Congressman,
what is the latest? You were working hard and I
don't know the absolute latest, but the score act. I
know there are a lot of people out there that
are big college football fans, college sports fans in general,
are in the midst of the fall football season. What's
(09:03):
the latest there? What can you tell us?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
We're working on getting some Democrats to vote for it.
We have some some great supporters out there who want to,
you know, looking at some changes. You know, we got
a Cody Campbell, great guy with a big, big booster,
Texas Tech talking about some things that he thinks can happen,
particularly I think maybe better suited for the Senate. But
we're we're looking at those as well. The bill is
through committee. We do have some Democrats support for it.
(09:28):
I think there's strong support for it. To use your lingo, uh,
play with you know, people in the Southeast Conference part
of the country and the Big Ten part of the country.
So we'll we'll see, But we do want to get
this done and we continue to work on it. We
think it's a darn good start uh to help with
you know, I when we started this process, I said,
(09:48):
I think there are three things we we want to
focus on. We want we want real competition. Want some parody.
You don't want just the same teams winning all the time,
as much as I'd like to see the Badgers and
the buck guys, you know, always at the top. You
want you some parody. Uh. You you don't want to diminish
opportunity for athletes.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
UH.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
The USOC is very concerned about what happens to the
so called non revenue sports, the Olympic sports and women's sports,
and so we're trying to see how we can be
helpful there. And part of the thing in the bill
is we don't want any school to drop the sports
at state Division one you got to have sixteen. We
kept that in the We put that in the bill,
and then Finally, I do think we at some point
(10:26):
got to remember it's supposed to be about getting an education.
You got some of these athletes in football and basketball
who transfer, you know, six times in five years and
never get a degree. I don't think that's helpful to
the system or to that to that individual. So we're
trying to have those overall objectives in mind when we
put this legislation together. So we're not quite there yet.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
What should happen with Jimmy Kimmel. You know, we're going
to talk about this, I think at some point during
the course of the show. But you know, with the
YouTube we started off the show by saying, and I
think it's really important that Jimmy Kimmel is a small
pinprick of the importance of what Google and YouTube were doing.
Any comedian would be relative to the policies those companies
come in place. And Next Star and Sinclair are still
(11:10):
not caring. Meaning I'm not sure where your affiliate station is, jim,
But I know here in Nashville, I couldn't watch last
night if I wanted to. They have news on I'm
a Next Star affiliate here in the ABC Nashville market.
What in your mind is the right solution here if
you were the magic wand guy and you got to
analyze this.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Well, I looked at this the way you've always described
to Claire. I looked at this as Republicans by sneakers too.
Republicans watched Late Night TV two and I think Next
Star and Sinclair just said, you know, our we just
don't think it's appropriate that you know, excuse me if
your late night talk show hosts, you should you should
not do two things. You shouldn't kick off half the
potential audience and you and you should be funny. And
(11:50):
it seems like Jimmy Kimmel was failing on both of
those those two things. So I think I think Nextarn
and uh, Next Star and uh Sinclair said, we just
like something different, Frank. So I think this is a
business decision largely, and you know, it couldn't just be
the government censoring because ABC or Disney putting back on.
So yeah, I did. I think I looked at it
(12:11):
all throughout this whole thing, and I understand what what
Commissioner Carr said, but I looked at it largely as
this was a business deal. Next Star came Forard and said, no,
we want we want something different, and you can't blame
him for that because I think I think they're losing
money on the show ABC is. I didn't really thought
he was really that funny. It was all just we know,
it was all just attacking Trump all the time, and
(12:33):
and half the country doesn't doesn't particularly care for that.
So that's how I viewed it versus government government doing
what they did. And in all these areas where we
have emails from the Biden administration saying take down this
tweet a sap, and then with a tweet from RFK
Junior when he was running for president against Joe Biden
for goodness sake, So that's as bad as it gets.
It said, the Biden administration set up the disinformation governance
(12:57):
for most allwellian thing in history front of bureau, tell
you what you can say.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Ni Jenkowitz, I haven't forgotten her name.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Totally, totally. So so that's a that's a completely different
animal than next our saying we don't think our audience
really likes this show. We just assume be something else
that's a business called my mind.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Totally agree.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Congress and Jim Jordan will have you back and there
will be video of one hundred mile an hour service.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
It will happen. I will not be doing it. It's
gonna happen. Thank you, sir, Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Speaking of speaking of serving up one hundred miles an
I'm glad we were reminded of this important, this important
milestone that middle aged buck is going to hit one way,
one way or another.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
And uh, I like, you're now calling yourself middle aged.
This happened out of nowhere. You used to be like, oh,
I'm a youthful guy, and now like, maybe tell you
middle aged, Like I'll talk you to be able to
get out of bed in the morning. I'm I'm gonna
let you a little secret.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
And now this probably isn't unique to tennis, but I
think it's more common in tennis. Everyone who plays tennis,
I don't you all know those those who play on
a regular basis, you know, play some USTA matches, or
play the club championship or the you know, local ladder
in their neighborhood or whatever.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
They're always like, oh, I haven't played so long. Oh
my shoulder has been really awful.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Like every time you talk to somebody you're about to
play tennis with, it's oh, my achilles has been so tight.
I haven't had surgery on it yet, but I'm really
you know, plubby bla. It's all a big psychout game.
So yeah, of course I'm playing up the middle aged
thing now Clay technically true, so I'm milking it for
all that it's worth. But middle aged buck is going
to get that hundred mile an hour surf somehow. I'll
find three more mph on my serve than the last
(14:38):
time out there. I did get a better system, but
you know what part of my system is chalk, friends,
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And Chalk is like in the corner there, urging me on,
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Speaker 4 (14:53):
I don't want to.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I don't want to end up like one of these
Biden Kamala voters like.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
I couldn't hit this over one hundred miles an hour.
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Speaker 4 (15:48):
Know what's you don't know right, but you could. On
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Clay buck Writing messages on ammunition started World War Two
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Speaker 4 (16:34):
Yeah. I've seen those old school photos buck of but
those are typically like bombs, right, not so.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Much as it's morale for troops fighting the enemy. Yeah,
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Speaker 4 (17:18):
Well, this is what I mean.
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Speaker 4 (17:23):
That's right. They in their mind see themselves as heroic
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Love it.
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a second, shall we uh? And this is going to
transition into also my comologist deep dive. As I was
reading the memoir last night.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
It was very how late did you stay up with
your friend Kamala's book. I spent a solid hour before
I went to bed just reading. I was very excited.
It had automatically downloaded to my Kindle because I was
a pre purchaser, So I gotta I gotta pump those numbers.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
One.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
What is your What does your wife think when she
comes to get in bed and you are just curled
up comfortably reading Kamala Harris's book? Does she make fun
of you at all? What is her take on this?
Speaker 1 (19:38):
I could come up with something clever to say here,
but the truth is the baby's been waking up about
every hour all night long, so she's just thinking, how
are we going to get through the night? So you
are now because for a while there you had angel
baby that was sleeping perfectly on. So I'm just gonna
tell you guys this because yeah, okay, maybe I need
(19:59):
to learn a little humility on this one. As a
new parent, a lot of people are like, oh, are
you okay In the first three four months, and I
was like, okay, the baby is adorable and sleeps seven
eight hours a night every night. It was just like,
we didn't do anything. The baby just sleeps. And I
told my sister this. You know, I've got a little nephew,
and she had a very tough sleep schedule kind of
(20:19):
baby situation, and she couldn't believe it.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
She's like, what do you mean your baby sleep? Seven?
I was, look, he just I don't know what to
tell you.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
The baby just as I've had no how many times
have I showed up Clay and said, you all not
getting any sleep?
Speaker 4 (20:30):
And I'm like, no, it's been fine.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
That has changed and the last month it has been,
uh it has been.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
And now Carrie's taking the brunt of it. But you know,
I try to help out.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
And I'm also in the in the room when she's
getting up to go tend to the baby. I understand
what you parents are talking about when you're like, are
you okay?
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Now I need people to ask if I'm okay because
the sleep situation. I mean, Carrie's a trooper pushing through
all this. Every hour, I don't know, just every hour
little guys wake it up. I mean, he's I think
it's called the sleep regression. They say the five month
or six month's sleep regret. I heard it's very common.
Our first was I get Wara was an unbelievable trooper
with our oldest it was. It was brutal how bad
(21:10):
he was at sleeping. But it was funny to me
because for a few months, little baby Speed was just
always smiling and so happy and just sleeping and so smiley.
And people were like, how are you guys doing? And
I was like, this is amazing, and I have ten
more of these like this is now I'm like, this
parent thing is tough, this could be this can be
a little bit of a challenge sometimes. So I've learned.
I've learned the the curve has bent in the other
(21:31):
direction right now for the effort and the challenges here. Okay,
now to so yes, I was reading Kamalists and look
reading this thing, I want to get into a more
fulesome discussion of it when we're more focused on on
where Kamal is and all this. I would just say, uh,
it is very boring, and it is very clear that
(21:52):
she I didn't even know if she spent any time
at all even telling the ghostwriters what you're right. This
thing is is a book by committee. It's they've got
a couple of people, probably three or four writers who
were working on it or something Kamala didn't write a
word of it. Now I know that's not unusual, but
it just comes across as completely just like it's just
so inauthentic. It's I figured that it would read like
(22:15):
it was a like a mckimsey consulting platform where eight
different people have all weighed in and it's just bland
and inauthentic.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Well, and she and she knew. I mean, I'll tell
So this is the phase of the book that I'm in.
The phase of the book is.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Kamala discussing the lead up to her becoming the nominee.
And I'm only a few chapters in. I didn't read
that much last night. And also the disastrous debate. And
of course she's like, I, I was worried about him
going into this debate. And and by the way, she
affirms what I had said all along, because people were
saying that they pushed him to debate so they could
(22:53):
push him out. That's absolutely made no sense. That's absolutely
not true. His advisors thought. And this is from Kammalin. Now,
now I understand, this isn't a book, so it's all
you know, this is in intelligence circles. You would say
this is meant to influence as well as inform. Right,
this is not just someone giving you information. They're trying
to create a narrative. I get that, But this is
(23:14):
Kamala Harris saying, Oh, the advisors thought that they could
just get through this one night and then it would
all be fine. And she claims in the book that
she was of the mind that Joe should just not
debate at all, because basically all of the strategizing Clay,
if I may say so, that I was doing from
a Democrat mindset. He shouldn't debate. It's a disaster. Trump
(23:37):
didn't debate. He should just she says, whether you believe
it or not, she agreed with that, and that a
few of Biden's inner circle were convinced that he would
be able to not be okay for months, but for
one night he.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Could pull it off. And they said, look, they said
in original sin, Yeah they really, so that really just
be clear everybody that really was They thought they could,
you know, hoodwink everybody. They thought they could bamboozle us
one more time and that's all they had to do.
So it was a giant roll of the dice and
it came up snake eyes, right, mister gambling man, that's bad.
That's correct. You don't want the snake eyes. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
So that's one part of it that I thought was
interesting so far. I'll give you more coomoologist analysis as
I get further and deeper into the book. I also
mentioned that I am going to be clay Is solo
on the radio next week, and I was gonna wait
until Thursday to talk about this, but I talk a
little bit today. I am going on a fact finding
mission to Taiwan. I am scheduled to meet with some
(24:38):
of the most senior people in the time Whenese government.
I want to speak to them Clay about national security
with China and how that's looking, how the Trump administration
is doing vis a v not just Taiwanese but regional relations.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
How did the time.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Whenese feel about allies like Japan in this moment, and where,
you know, where do they feel about By the way,
this is the the most important national security flashpoint and
the most important economic choke point in the world right now.
Taiwan makes ninety percent of the top end chips silicon,
the silicon wafers that are needed to make an integrated circuit. Essentially,
(25:17):
they make ninety percent of the top end ones and
sixty percent of overall. Clay, none of the smart tech
that we have anywhere can function without Taiwini's production. Nowhere
else in the world can they make this stuff. And
China is saying they're going to take this island in
the next two years. So I talked to Clay about
this as a Clay I just you know, I'm going
on my own time, but it's also on behalf of
(25:37):
the show because I'm going to be interviewing people and
I'm going to be and Clay said, go for it.
Originally we were going to go together, but we realized
the logistics of that We're gonna be a a little
more challenging. But so I'll be out next week, but
I'll be in Taiwan trying to find out as much
as I can about what I think in the next
two years will be the most important geopolitical challenge in
the world. I mean, Ukraine is already a hot war
(26:00):
and we got to figure out how to wind that
thing down. But I think that's just going to grind
on for another few years. I don't think it's going
to change very much. This is a situation clay with China.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
You've talked about.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Remember when they when they hit Iran Iran with the reactors,
and also when the Ukraine War started, You're like, maybe
China's going to go for it. China goes for Taiwan
in any meaningful way, we have a We wake up
in a different world, truly, all of us, all of you,
whether you care about foreign policy or not. The markets
will the markets will be absolutely rocked. You'll see trillions
(26:31):
of dollars of wealth evaporate. I mean, it's it's scary stuff.
So I want to know what's going Look, hopefully none
of that happens. They continue a sort of status quo
and everything is great. But I think this is you know,
part of what we do on this show is try
to get ahead of where things are going. I'm telling
you this is going to be a big issue, and
it's going to be a big issue that the Trump
administration has to figure out. We're not just going to
(26:51):
be able to backburn or this.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
So that's a big trip. That's a long airplane flight.
So you are headed over there all of next week
and then you'll be back. Maybe you'll send some stuff
in from Taiwan, but that I'm I'm hoping can get
some high level interviews.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
You know, it's not it's not all set in stone
because they've got some very important stuff.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Going on over there.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
But I am going, you know, and we're going to
air some some of it on the show, assuming that
the people that I'm trying to sit down with will
sit down with me. But we're just gonna learn as
much as we can over there. Uh, and that's the
that's the plan. So really, you for to go ahead? No,
I was gonna say, do you want to play Gavin
Newsom here? Because we started off with you, We're gonna
play Yeah?
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Yeah, Sorry, I I.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Digress, But I realized I left the Taiwan thing rip
when I was talking to Jim Jordan. It's kind of
like when some of you found out that I was
having a carry but we're having a baby, because the
top of the show, it just, uh it bled into
the audio and I was like, well, you know, carry's
almost things that of all the things that could have leaked,
the fact that you were having a baby was the
thing that leaked off. It was very nice, Honestly, it
(27:54):
was very touching because my inbox and mentions and everything
was just full of wonderful listeners who were saying the
sweetest things, but the fact that we were expecting a
little baby boy. But it was funny because I was
going to do like a real announcement about it, and
I just kind of let it fly in an off
moment break to Clay.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
And it went on the air.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Okay, Gavin Newsom, back to the meat and potatoes here
of the news cycle, Gavin Newsom. Here he is saying
the kind of stuff that really ticks me off, but
this is very normal for him. That we're not even
going to have this is nineteen, not going to have
election in twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
We're struggling to communicate. We're struggling to win back now
the majority in the House of Representatives. And that's a
big part of what I'm doing, not just today in
terms of the work out here raising money, but also
raising awareness around how Donald Trump is trying to rig
the midterm elections and how I fear that we will
not have an election in twenty twenty eight. I really
(28:52):
mean that, and the core of my soul unless we
wake up to the code red what's happening in this country,
wake up soberly to how serious this.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Moment is clarcy, what is that?
Speaker 1 (29:06):
What is he really doing here saying that he and
his soul believes we're not even going to have an
election in twenty twenty eight?
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Like, what's the play as you see it? First of all,
I went on Twitter and I reiterated what I said
the last time he said this. I will put ten
million dollars up against Gavin. He can get it from
his donors that we will have an election in twenty
twenty eight. I don't even I think the Democrat base
(29:32):
eats this up. And I think this is already starting
the race in twenty twenty eight. I think that's the reality.
He can't possibly believe this. If you believe it, why
are you already effectively running for president? What does he
think this is going to happen? That Trump's going to
announce win? First of all, because the presidential race is
(29:53):
going to start in January of twenty seven, in earnest,
and by January of twenty eight will have the primaries
actually starting. So when exactly would Trump cancel the twenty
twenty eight election. I think Trump's going to eat up
the twenty twenty eight election because he's going to see
it as some form of an apprentice. It's a reality
(30:14):
television show made for him to be the king maker
on the Republican side of the equation, and probably to
weigh in a lot on the Democrat side of the
equation too. I just I look at this and I
think that it must be that the base of the
Democrat Party is so crazy that telling them that Trump
is going to cancel elections in some way paradoxically makes
(30:37):
Gavin Newsom a bigger favorite in twenty twenty eight. So
that's the motivation, I think what's going on here. He
clearly does not believe it. And this is part and parcel, unfortunately,
of why we're getting all these left wing political attacks,
because enough of the base of the Democrat Party believes
(30:58):
this that they're willing to kill Charlie Kirk, and that
they're willing to try to kill President Trump, and that
they are willing to frankly burn down Josh Shapiro's governor's mansion.
By the way, that was left wing political violence too,
even addressed against Democrats. There is a lot of crazy.
There are a lot of crazy people out there, and
(31:20):
the Democrat base is overwhelmingly made up of a lot
of crazy people, and they want to hear this fear
porn is. I think it titilates them. I think it
drives them. And Gavin Newsom is playing on it even
though he knows it's untrue, which is I think one
of the most dishonest things a politician can do. And
(31:42):
it's one thing if you actually have a strong opinion
that might be controversial, we might disagree with. I think
Bernie Sanders has a lot of opinions that he truly
believes that are wrong, and I disagree with him, but
I at least respect his right to make the argument.
Gavin Newsom doesn't believe this. He's lying. He just knows
it's politically and take just to say it, and he's
trying to take advantage of it. And that's the reality.
(32:03):
And it's hard to respect anybody adopting that perspective.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Some of these lunatic Democrats that you'll hear, I think
they actually believe the lunatic stuff, lunatic stuff that they say.
I don't think Avin Newsom believes one iota well a
sentilla of this nonsense.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
That's right. He's just playing them for fools. And there's
ten million dollars. Take me up on it, Gavin, I
feel really good about me winning the ten million. I'll
donate it to people out there so they can sue
for some endment cases. He's not going to respond because
he's a liar and he knows that this is a lie.
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House has just posted a video and it's a little
bit hard to describe how funny it is on the
radio because there is a punchline that comes at the
end that I'm going to spoil a bit for all
of you. But they have a west wing outdoor patio
(34:09):
walkway that white wall there that they have covered with
portraits or photographs of all the past presidents. And Margot Martin,
who is one of the president's top assistants, works there
in the oval office with him, just posted a video
of her walking along showing it and you can see
all the past presidents, and it gets to the first
(34:31):
Trump portrait, and then it goes to where Joe Biden's
portrait should be, and they have instead of a portrait
of Joe Biden, they have just a picture of the
auto pen, which is really really funny and also going
to drive people absolutely bonkers. I don't know who came
up with this idea in the West Wing. The comedic
(34:54):
sensibilities and we have talked about this a lot of
Trump are probably his most underrated characteristic because this is
a very very funny idea. It's the kind of idea
that you're sitting around and somebody comes up with when
you're having you know, beers after a long work day,
and people would laugh about it. Never do it. Trump's like,
great idea, do it. And so as a result, Joe
(35:15):
Biden is officially commemorated on the White House walkway now
with just an auto pin signing his name. Everybody else
has got a portrait. They have an autopin of Joe Biden,
which is very, very funny.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
One thing Democrats have never even been able to pretend
they could match in politics is have anybody at the
Trump level of politics who is as funny as he is, yes,
which you know, Democrats like to think of themselves as
the entertainers, and we've got all of Hollywood and everything else.
Trump is not just a political phenomenon and a cultural phenomenon.
(35:50):
He is by far the funniest politician in our lifetime. Honestly,
I mean really gonna have some great lines. But he
wasn't like a comedian, which is why as soon as
the midterms are over, they're gonna pivot. I'm telling you,
get ready for it, as you're gonna be on whiplash.
They're gonna pivot from Trump's Hitler to Republicans are never
(36:10):
gonna be able to replace Trump. In fact, that will
be their entire argument of much of twenty twenty seven. Now,
when they get into twenty twenty eighth, they'll probably go
back to insert whomever the nominee is is Hitler, he's
even worse than Trump. That'll be the pivot when they
actually get to the general election because they have nothing
else to argue.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
But they're gonna start arguing soon and recognizing the unique
political talents of Trump. When we come back. We got
Senator Rick Scott joining us at the bottom of the
final hour, but we'll dive into some of the Jimmy
Kimmel talk what do we think there, and also continue
to update you on all the news, the Ice shooting
and more
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