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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in our number two Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Buck is
in Taiwan, and I'll read a couple of tweets that
he has sent from Taiwan. He is there for this
entire week. He will be back on Monday. Just FYI
(00:21):
appreciate all of.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
You hanging out with us.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Lots of feedback rolling in on a variety of different topics.
We'll get to some of that in the next couple
of hours of the show. Senator Mullen of Oklahoma gonna
be on with us at two o'clock about an hour
from now, and then Steve Scalise, we will discuss the
potential shutdown that is on the horizon.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Not ideal.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Polls according to The New York Times on who's going
to be blamed if the government shuts down? And first
of all, should or should not the government be shut down?
Sixty five percent of all voters say the government should
not be shut down, just twenty seven percent of people
say it should. Ninety two percent of Republicans say the
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government shouldn't be shut down. Fifty nine percent of independence
say the government shouldn't be shut down. Only forty seven
percent of Democrats say it should. This to me is
just indicative of what's happened to the Democrat Party. They
take their cue from the activist twenty percent that is
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completely out of touch with everything going on in the world,
and allow them to dictate all of the choices that
they make in the process.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
So that is the latest there.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
We've been talking about Pete Hegsett's big address to the military. Basically,
if I had to synthesize what he said, We're putting
merit back into the military and there will be actual
physical expectations for both men and women at the highest
possible standard. And in the process, we're going to send
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a message to the rest of the nation that the
meritocracy is back as our primary focus in American life.
And I would say that's one of the biggest messages
that is echoing across the entire Trump two point oh regime. Trump,
I believe is still talking to the me. He's basically
been talking to the media NonStop for two straight days.
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Remember when they would make a big deal about, Oh,
Joe Biden's going to take a question now, or Joe
Biden's going to have a public event now, This has
been going on every day basically for the entire year
of Trump two point zero. And it's easy to forget
the fact that we didn't see Biden, that they just
hit him. They did a couple of public events, he
(03:04):
never took questions. Whenever he took questions, they turned it
into a huge epic story. Meanwhile, Trump is just asking,
taking and answering questions on a regular basis. Okay, I
told you that I wanted to play a couple of
the cuts from my interview with Paul Feinbaum that I
(03:27):
did over the weekend, and yesterday I shared some cuts.
Paul Feinbaum, I think is very likely to run for
the Senate from Alabama. But some of you out there
spend as much time as I do sitting around wondering
how did we end up in a situation where so
much insanity is governing everything that happens on a day
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to day basis. And I think much of it came
because the Left took over culture in this country. I
mentioned my extreme appreciation for jk Rowling at the end
of the last hour of the program here, and I
don't even know what jk Rowling thinks about a large
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percentage of the issues going on in the world. But
I do believe that she'll acknowledge truth, and that if
you can acknowledge truth, I can work with you on
other issues. But when you tell me men can become women,
or you start referring to women as birthing people. By
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the way, good luck to my ten year assistant Katie,
who is right now in labor having baby number two.
She is phenomenal, helps to keep my work life in
order and balance.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
And she has a baby boy who's two. Some of
you have seen him.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
He occasionally makes an appearance on the video because she's
out at the house frequently. She is a woman having
a baby, not a birthing person. But good luck to her.
She is in labor right now. I doubt she is listening.
There's probably better things for her to be consuming right
now than this show. But she is in labor right now.
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So for those of you who have been through the
labor process, maybe lift her up in prayer a little bit.
That is a challenge no matter who you are, and
baby number two is on the way for her, so
that is very exciting for she and her family. But
one of the reasons why I love what JK. Riling
did is she works in the Hollywood universe, and she
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was willing to speak truth to that audience around her,
even though many of them were made uncomfortable by the
fact that she spoke the truth. And this is one
of the things about speaking the truth. You get attacked
when you make other people uncomfortable because you draw attention
to their untruth. So that is a reality that is
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I think incredibly significant here.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
This is what is going on when you're being attacked
like JK. Rowling is.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
It's not because you actually have an unpopular opinion. It's
because you're saying what they know to be true and
forcing them to recognize that they are liars. That's why
what she's saying is so powerful. And I've spent a
lot of time doing on a smaller scale in sports
what JK. Rowling I think has done in pop culture
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when it comes to speaking true to people who should
know better. And I want to share this cut with
all of you because I did a sit down with
Paul Feinbaum and I've been talking about this for a
long time. The Left took over ESPN as part of
their attempt to take over sports, because think about it,
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if they can get sports fans to say, there's no
difference between men and women. It's actually heroic for a
man to win a women swimming championship. That's how they
take over the whole culture. Because once they can get
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you to admits something that you know is untrue, then
they own you. They have control of your soul because
once they can get you to say one thing that
you know is one hundred percent not true, they can
get you to say a second or third, and they
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get into the brain and they slowly take it over.
And I think it's been intentional to focus on sports.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I saw it.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I never would have thought that I would be talking
to you on this show because I was just a
guy who likes sports like a huge majority of you.
I love going to a college football tailgate. I like
having drinks. I like gambling on sports, my favorite thing.
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If you told me, Clay, you have one day left
to live, I would probably say, I want to take
my family and I want to go to an awesome
college football game, and I want to spend the whole
day tailgating, and I want to spend the whole day
hanging out with them, and then at the end of
the day, just say bye. That's probably how I would
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choose to spend if you told me, hey, you only
have one day left, that may well be what I
would want to do. Celebrate, spend time with the people
that I love, doing something that we have all shared together.
Some of you may think that's crazy. A lot of
you out there, I think can understand. And so it
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was intentional, and they did it in a very subtle way.
Initially they only praised left wing politicians. They had Barack
Obama on ESPN all the time in completely unthreatening ways.
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They had him pick in CAA tournament winners, they had
him talk about how much he liked sports.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
And you say, okay, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
They're going to do that for Republicans too, right right, Well,
Donald Trump in twenty nineteen wanted to go and did
go to the LSU Alabama football game in Tuscaloosa.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
It's a big game, Joe Burrow against TUWA.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Talk about WOA, LSU one of the top teams, Alabama
one of the top teams.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
I was there.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
It was a fabulous electric atmosphere. Paul Feinbaum is one
of the top voices in college football, probably foremost known
of all of the sec Network, so Southeastern Conference, not
the Securities in Exchange Commission, probably the best known of
all their employees. And he wanted to do something special
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for that game, and so he had set up an
interview with President Trump, not to dive into the complexities
of politics, just to talk about sports, just like ESPN
had spent eight years doing with Barack Obama. But guess
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what Disney owned ESPN said, No, We're not going to
allow that to happen. We've got a different rule when
it comes to Republicans in office than we do Democrats.
And I want to play this cut. I've known this
was going on for a long time. People have told
me about it behind the scenes. Most of them have
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not said it publicly. I get credit to Paul Pinbaum
for saying it publicly with me. This went up long
form interview. If you're interested, you can go check it
out on YouTube. I posted the link. Here is cut three.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Listen to this.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I've never said this before, but why am I going
to hold this back? I just moved and registered in Alabama,
but I am a registered Republican North Carolina as at
this hour, and I was a registered Republican in Alabama
before I moved, and you've.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Never said that public.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
I've never discussed politics one single time because it is
frowned upon, and it's also overall night good business for somebody.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Doing a sports show. Yeah, to go down that lane. Okay,
I'm gonna ask you. I'm gonna put you in that lane.
Did you vote for Donald Trump?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Yes, But they also tell us not to discuss that.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
What do you think would happen if you told ESPN, Hey,
I'm going to have President Trump on my radio show.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I almost did that once.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
What happened?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Do you remember the twenty nineteen game LSU in Alabama?
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah, when he came in. I was there.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
I mean they, I mean that was in the borough
versus to one of the great college football games of
all time.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
I reached out to a friend of mine in DC.
He said, you want to get Trump? I said yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
But by the way, anyone who has ever hosted a
show in the history of mankind that does not want
the president, whether it's Democrat, Republican, whoever the hell it is,
is either lying to you or complete moron. To interject,
so he said, I think he said I was.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I was doing a get up in first take in
New York two days a week. I said, I would
be in New York on Wednesday. I'd have to come through.
He said, we could. I think we could do it
as a White House Thursday morning. Can you get there?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I said, yeah, I can go there.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
I'm in New York right.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
He said, let me let me, let me, let me
run it down the flag pole and he said he
texted me back saying it's looking good.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
I had.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
I called my boss. Uh. And they killed it.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
They killed it.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
They had Barack Obama all the time on the program,
and Finebaum acknowledge that all sorts of ESPN programming, They
sent reporters into the White House with him on a
regular basis. They wouldn't let Trump come on and just
talk about going to the LSU Alabama game.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Why because people would like him.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
It would humanize Donald Trump like they spent eight years
humanizing Barack Obama. Disney, ESPN wouldn't let that happen because
Trump was a Republican.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
This is a big deal, you know.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Everybody just focused on, Hey, Jimmy Kimmel made a joke,
and oh my goodness, how much bigger is it that
ESPN wouldn't let Paul Feinbaum interview President Trump before a
big game that he was going to attend Orders of
Magnitude because of what it represent.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Sense.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
They didn't want to treat Trump the exact same as
they treated Obama because culturally, they were using sports to
try to divide us all, to take us away from
the meritocracy, and to interject identity politics into sport. Because
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if they can do that, and they control the culture
of sport, they get young men, they get young women,
they can infiltrate their thoughts and tell them, hey, you
know what, it's actually to be celebrated that a man
is competing in women's sports. Hey, you know what, it's
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super racist. Remember when they tried to turn the NFL,
they had Colin Kaepernick comparing the NFL draft to a
slave market.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Man. When you really start looking.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
At it, it's so alkylated, it's so intentional, and I
just could once I saw it, I couldn't start fighting
it hard enough. That's how I'm sitting here talking with
all of you right now. Okay, we've got a couple
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about the more on Don Lemon on the backside here.
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Lemon has a very important message for all of you
that we will play for you here in just a
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as he has decided that he needs to address the
men of white America. Not by the way, the white
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us as we are rolling
through the Tuesday edition of the program. The reminder, we'll
check in on Capitol Hill, both the House and the
Senate in the third hour of the program. Senator Mark
Wayne Mullen at Oklahoma and Steve Scalise Buck is in Taiwan.
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He may have a couple of things coming from over
there before he is done.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
But I wanted to play this cut for all of you.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
This is Don Lemon, and as I said, he has
a message for the white men of America in particular.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Let's play it.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
Men who look like you, men who vote like you,
and men who sound like you. White men, something is broken,
something is cracked deep inside when so many of you
believe the answer to fear, to loss, to change is violence.
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Are you listening to me? I hope I'm saying it
loud enough for the people in the back right.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
So that is Don Lemon, recently fired by CNN. What
I think is interesting about this is this is an
example of what I was just talking about in the
world of sports identity politics. I believe identity politics is
the root cancer of America today and we have to
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grab it and root it out, destroy it in all
facets of our society. And there are many different prongs
of identity politics, but essentially what identity politics is is
how do you rank people based on oppression and who
is allowed to say to talk to groups and what
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are they allowed to say?
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Right?
Speaker 1 (20:48):
And so, if you were thinking about this like a
left winger, does your particular identity is a proxy to
allow you to say anything about anyone? For instance, if
you are a black transgender person, you would see yourself
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as the peak of the oppression pyramid. That is, you
are the most oppressed that anyone has ever been, and
therefore you are allowed to talk negatively about everybody else
because of your identity. Don Lemon is a gay black guy,
he believes, and maybe we should play that again, but
he believes that he should be able to lecture white
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men on why they are so violent. Right, it doesn't
matter that it's not true. It's the identity politics worldview
of Don Lemon is as a gay black man because
of his identity being both gay and black, He's allowed
to say things that other people can't about other groups.
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White men are allowed to be attacked by everybody. And
you guys all know this. White men are in the
world of identity politics the great Satan. We are the
cause of the left wing worldview of all negativity that
has ever.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Existed in the history of the world.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
And from there you also can stare step into black
straight men and Hispanic straight men, and Asian hate straight
and Asian straight men.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
We're all to blame.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Right collectively, men are toxic, Masculinity is toxic, heterosexuality is wrong.
Football is too violent. Right, all of these things kind
of roll together. But I just want to want you
to think about that clip that I just played for you.
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What is important I think about it is the degree
to which it reflects untruth. That is, factually, if Don
Lemmon were going to lecture anyone in America about their
rates of violence based on their race and their gender,
he would have to talk to black men. Right, let
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me play that one more time, and I just want
you to think in your head, what if Don Lemon
had actually addressed this clip to black men.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Listen, men who look like you men who vote like
you and men who sound like you, white men. Something
is broken, something is cracked deep inside when so many
of you believe the answer to fear, to loss, to
change is violence.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Are you listening to me? I hope. I'm saying it
loud enough for the people in the back, Okay.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I mean it would actually be an instructive element here
to just strip out white men and put in black men.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Why wouldn't he say that?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
If Don Lemon is concerned about rates of violence in America,
truly concerned, and he wants to break it down by
race and gender, the group he should be talking to
is black men. He should be saying, black men, why
are you so violent? You represent six percent of the population,
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You commit nearly half of all murders. That's wildly outside
of what should be expected on a per capita basis.
In fact, white, Hispanic and Asian men are far less
violent than you are.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Why are you so angry? Black men?
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Why are you killing each other at such incredible high rates?
I want you to listen up. I'm paraphrasing what Don
Lemon just said to me, in particular, especially you guys
in the black in the back. All of you, black guys,
why are you behaving like this? It would immediately be
seen if Tucker Carlson did that take, if Klay Travis
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did that take, if Buck Sexton did that take. If
a white guy sat down in front of the camera
and directly addressed black men and said, you guys are
way too violent, you are the problem. You need to
listen to me, it would probably go megaviral, but immediately
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it would be called racist, there would be demands that
the person who was speaking be canceled. And yet based
on the data, it would actually have far more legitimacy
than what Don Lemmon just said to white men. So
I just want you to think about this for a minute.
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And my general proposition is it's not helpful to break
down racial groups and directly address them and you are
the problem, because it doesn't create a environment where things
get better. Right Because as soon as you attack someone
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and say you're the problem, by and large, when you're
an external figure from that group, sometimes internal figures.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Right.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Black men can directly address black men, maybe in a
way that cuts through. White men can address address white men,
Asian men, Hispanic men. Speaking inside the group, it's perceived
as less of attack because you're seen as one of
the group, right. But in general, I think this is
such an important clip because it's an example of untruth.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Right.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
They wanted to talk about misinformation and disinformation all the time.
We can't solve problems in America unless we look at
the data and try to analyze it. This is why
I think tru decision to send troops into Memphis, to
send troops into Louisiana, to send troops into potentially Chicago,
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and certainly to send troops into Washington, d C. Is
actually important because it forces us to have a real
conversation about where violent crime occurs and who the victims
of violent crime are. Some of you probably know I
don't know how many of you may have eve been
listening to this show for years. I'm a big believer
in look at a data set and try to address
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a problem. If you believe as I do, that there
is far too much violence in America and we want
to lower the rates of overall violence, the way to
do that is to go to the communities with the
highest rates of violence and solve them. I live in
a neighborhood and a city where there is very little
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violent crime. If the President of the United States surged
resources in Franklin, tent where I live, the rate of
violent crime would barely move in the state of Tennessee
because there is almost no violent crime here. But I
live in the state of Tennessee. If they surge resources
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in Memphis, Memphis, I don't have the data in front
of me, but I would bet Memphis is well over
half of the murders that occur in the state of
Tennessee on a yearly basis. That's my bet off the
top of my head. Maybe some of you out there
have the data, you can share it with me. But
in order to drive down the rate of violent crime
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in Tennessee, you would have to go to the places
that have the highest rates of violent crime, and the
places with the highest rates of violent crime overwhelmingly have
black residents. How can we solve it if we don't
talk about it, and how can we solve it? When
Don Lemmon is doing the equivalent of saying, why don't
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you surge groups in Franklin, Tennessee, where Klay Travis lives, well, okay,
the crime rate is almost non existent. That would be
an inefficient use of resources. If the goal is to
drive down crime. If I came on here and I said,
we have to drive the rate of Asian murdered a zero,
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I will not stand for all these violent Asian men.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
I'm sick of all of you. We have a serious
violent crime rate with Asian men. And everybody said, yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Clay's right, what Surger resources into Asian communities.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
You know what happened.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Nobody would even notice. Even if we drove the rate
of Asian violent crime down to zero, it is so
low that it wouldn't actually make much of us very
much safer at all.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Now.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
It's good to have less crime, but rates of crime,
particularly rates of violent crime, overwhelmingly skew in the black community.
So when Don Lemmon, a black guy, is lecturing white
guys for rates of violent crime, he's actively lying about
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where crime comes from. And Buck asked a good question.
I saw this from him. He's over in Taiwan right
now and he tweeted this, and I think it's worth
thinking about what does a truly safe city feel like.
Strolled through a park in downtown Taipei, Taiwan, last night
around nine to thirty pm, long after sundown. Playgrounds were full.
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Children wandered in grassy areas, while parents calmly watched from
benches under dim street lights. Young women crossed through wooded
pathways alone, nobody concerned in the least about vagrants, druggies, mugging,
or worse. Because tolerance of a crime is a choice
society makes. Taiwan has made the right one and benefits
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from that every day Democrat runs cities in the US
have made the wrong choice over and over, so we
all suffer.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
It's shameful and cruel. He's right, it's one hundred percent right.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
How many times have you thought, as you were going
around in a city, well, I better get this done
before dark. Well I would never take my kids to
that park after dark? Well what why would I better
get my jog in Now? I can't be out on
the streets after dark. We've just accepted violent crime as
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a reality in this country.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Do you know why?
Speaker 1 (31:41):
I think we have Because people are afraid of being
called racist by looking and examining where violent crime comes from.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
This ties one thought I was talking about with JK.
Rowling earlier.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Being honest some times requires that you be willing to
risk that people might say awful things about you that
you know are untrue. But think about this. I wanted
to play that Don Lemon clip, not only because it's
factually inaccurate, but what's the really racist choice. We're going
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to allow rates of violent crime in black neighborhoods to
be huge, massive impediments to the success of the vast
majority of the residents in that neighborhood because we're willing
to deal with violent crime and allow it to continue
to occur because people are afraid of being called racist
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if too many of the violent criminals arrested are black.
Much of Democrat crime positions is just calling the criminal
justice system racist. Isn't it actually racist to require the
vast majority of people who live in inner city neighborhoods
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to live in constant fear and danger because of a
small segment of the population that is engaging in constant
acts of violence with no justice system at all to
protect them. Wouldn't systemic racism actually be forcing the vast
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majority of black people to live in violent, crime ridden
cities instead of arresting people and letting everybody live safe
and healthy and productive wives. What's the first thing that
people do when they get money. Almost always, it's moved
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to a safer neighborhood, white, Black, Asian and Hispanic. I
got a crazy idea. What if we just decided that
we're not going to let any neighborhood be unsafe. Yeah,
for a little while, it might be uncomfortable because we'd
have to put a lot of bad guys behind bars,
but you know what would happen Eventually without the bad
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guys on the streets, we'd all be a lot safer.
Not doing so because you're concerned about the color of
the skin of the bad guys. Guess what, that's racist,
And the people that actually have to deal with it,
they're overwhelmingly black. So don Lemon, it's a little bit
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of nuance for you. You wouldn't make a video addressing
violent crime rates for black men?
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Why not?
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Why would you do it for white men? And I'm
guessing hoping it wasn't because you just happened to get
into a fight with your married partner, a white guy.
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