September 2, 2025 • 36 mins
In Hour 2 of The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show, the hosts continue their deep dive into the escalating crisis of urban crime in America, with a sharp focus on cities like Chicago, Washington D.C., and Memphis. They highlight the Trump administration’s proactive stance on law and order, praising President Trump’s efforts to reduce violent crime and carjackings while exposing the political resistance from Democrat leaders who, they argue, are failing to protect their constituents.
The conversation centers around the staggering statistic that 50 people were shot in Chicago over Labor Day weekend, prompting Clay and Buck to question why Democratic officials like Mayor Brandon Johnson oppose federal assistance, including National Guard deployment, to restore safety. They contrast Johnson’s slogan-heavy rhetoric with more pragmatic voices like Morning Joe’s Joe Scarborough, who surprisingly called for bipartisan cooperation with Trump to address crime in Illinois.
The hosts also revisit the controversial remarks of Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass, who suggested that increased policing would lead to too many arrests of black and brown individuals. Clay and Buck challenge this logic, emphasizing that the real victims of unchecked crime are often minorities living in high-crime neighborhoods. They argue that the true measure of safety is whether women and children can walk or jog freely in their communities without fear.
Listeners from cities like St. Louis, Kansas City, and New Orleans call in to share personal stories and support the idea of deploying the National Guard to restore order. The hosts also discuss the political implications of rising crime, noting that Trump’s support among black male voters surged in 2024, and that Democrats risk losing more ground if they continue to ignore public safety concerns.
Later in the hour, Clay and Buck shift to the New York City mayoral race, scrutinizing the candidacy of Zohran Mamdani, a self-described democratic socialist. They dissect the New York Times’ attempt to downplay his ideology and warn that his proposed policies—like government-run grocery stores—could devastate the city’s economy and infrastructure. The hosts debate whether Mamdani is a true ideologue or simply an inexperienced politician who may struggle to implement his radical agenda.
The segment also includes reflections on past NYC mayors like Rudy Giuliani, Michael Bloomberg, and Bill de Blasio, comparing their leadership styles and impact on crime. Clay and Buck argue that Bloomberg’s business acumen and Giuliani’s law enforcement background made them effective leaders, while de Blasio’s progressive policies contributed to the city’s decline.
Listeners weigh in on TX Rep. Jasmine Crockett’s speaking style and its impact on political discourse, with some defending her as relatable and others criticizing her for pandering. The hour closes with powerful caller stories from Chicago and North Carolina, reinforcing the urgent need for real solutions to urban violence and challenging political leaders to walk the streets of their cities without security to truly understand the crisis.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in second hour of Clay and Buck. It kicks
off right now. Thanks for being here with us. So,
as we know, a major push by this Trump White House,
the President himself has been on the issue of crime
in DC. We spent a lot of time on it,
and I think.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
So far it has been a big political winner for
Donald Trump because he's doing two things simultaneously. It's a
brilliant Trump move. Brilliant Trump move he has.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
He is putting wins up on the board while also
encouraging in essence because he pushed for it Democrats to
defend the indefensible. So it's coming at this from two sides.
One is it's just the right thing to do. It's
a good thing to do, make people safer, bring down
the murder rate, bring down the carjacking rate. Yay, we
think we'd all be on board for that, right, But
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two Democrats go.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Hey, like, so there's a lot of murders in DC.
I mean, who doesn't have this?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
A lot of places don't have the problem. But you
know what I mean, they're trying to suggest like no
big deal. And in the process everyone looks at them,
including some Democrats, look at them and say what is
your problem, like we actually want fewer murders. We need
to be a party some places. It has to be
which one of us is better at achieving the desired
goal and the murder rate should be one of them.
(01:18):
Are Democrats? Are Republicans better at bringing this down? It
shouldn't be Democrats are the This is pretty good and
Republicans are. No, it is not, because it is clearly
way too high in DC and it's clearly way too
high in Chicago as well. Over the weekend, fifty people
shot eight faithly. Over Labor Day weekend, five zero fifty
(01:40):
people were shot in the city of Chicago.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Chicago is not that big. It is two million people,
about one point eight million, I think clay is the number.
New York is eight point five million by comparison, So
Chicago is Is it still larger than Houston is like
its own You know, you can like drive for an
hour and a half and still be in Houston. I
(02:05):
think technically so it's a little tough to metro areas.
It's still New York LA Chicago one two three. I
think Houston and Dallas are four and five if I'm
not mistaken again on the metropolitan areas.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
But again, Houston, it's like, what is Houston. Well, it's
a very big place. So fifty people shot at so
many people. I think we're all clear on that. It's
not like this is aberrant numbers for Chicago either. This
is some random no on Labor Day weekend you go back.
There are a lot of weekends where you have thirty shot,
forty shot. I mean, these numbers are out of control.
(02:40):
And it was very interesting to me Clay this morning,
sure enough, on good Old MSNBC, there was a conversation
that was happening, and it was Joe Scarborough. But we'll
get into this reaching out in essence to the Democrat intelligency,
(03:00):
including the governor of Illinois, of course includes in its
environs the city of Chicago, saying that it is time
to partner up with Trump on the issue of crume.
This is on MSNBC Play four.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I actually think that JB. Prinsker should do something radical.
I think you should pick up the phone, call the
President and say you know, and I know, you don't
have the constitutional authority to deploy the National Guard here
and to police my You can do that in DC,
you can't do that in Chicago. But let's partner up.
These are the most dangerous parts of my state. We
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would love to figure out how to have a partnership
that's constitutional, that respects the sort of balance of federalism
between the federal government and the state government, and let's
work together to save lives.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
That sounds entirely reasonable, doesn't it. Play.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
It sounds like the kind of thing that somebody who
might be trying to make a move to be a
voice to bring the Democrats not toward the center but
towards sanity, would be making.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Good Old Morning Joe. I think he sees a laying clay.
He's wrong saying the president doesn't have the authority. He's
one hundred percent right with everything else he said. This
is what should happen. This is to be. To give
her credit, DC Mayor Muriel Bowser seems to be doing,
to the best of her ability, an attempt to work
(04:27):
with Trump to make Washington, DC safer. And I don't
understand why anyone out there would be trying to prevent
the President from making his or her city or state
safer than it otherwise would be. And we have here
is Brandon Johnson, the mayor of Chicago, contrasting with the
(04:51):
reasonable take that we just heard that's what you would
have heard on MSNBC. Worth noting that if you are
losing Joe Scarborough on MSNBC, how many MSNBC viewers might
be hearing somewhat same takes suddenly as part of Trump
two point zero. That to me is a sign that
(05:12):
the virulent Trump is Hitler agenda. Leave aside the fact
that we all know it's a lie. It doesn't rate anymore.
It doesn't actually motivate the viewers. Even you have Morning
Joe there, Joe Scarborough himself, who remembers a former Republican
so he can play you want to talk about code
switching this guy, he'll switch jerseys, He'll switch you know,
(05:33):
whatever was gonna He wrapped the Florida Gulf Coast, one
of the most beautiful places in the country. I believe
I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
So he would have been the thirty a congressman, right,
I mean he was yes at one point, yes, right,
I think yeah, yeah, as close as God's Country on
the Gulf of America, no less on the Gulf of America.
He would have been a congressman for it. But there's
that position, and then you get the more hardcore or
left wing Democrat position here from Chicago Mayor Johnson. This
(06:05):
is cut five. Here's the other approach to Chicago player.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
No federal troops in the city of Chicago, no militarized
force in the city of Chicago. We're gonna defend our
democracy in the city of Chicago. We're gonna protect the
humanity of every single person in the city of Chicago.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Uh, just slogans, meaningless community organizer slogans that will do
nothing to bring down the murder rate, nothing to address
the crime rate. I mean, somebody should just ask. Somebody
should ask the mayor of Chicago, is fifty people over
the weekend shot in your city too much? Do you
view that as an urgent problem, sir? And try to
(06:49):
pin him down on this, because he would just go
back into the slogan's play.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I don't understand what the audience is for arguing we're
gonna stand up to the president trying to bring more
law and order to cities that eighty one percent of
Americans believe have too much violence. Ninety nine percent of
Americans believe have some form of violence that's too much.
(07:16):
I don't understand who is out there. Again, this ties
in buck with the argument we saw from Mayor Karen
Vass where she just said the quiet part out loud.
She said, well, we can't have more police and more
National Guard troops because then too many black and brown
people are going to get arrested. So you really have
(07:36):
the argument being made of, well, there's gonna be too
many black and brown people arrested, so that's why we
don't want more law and order in the city. But
what about all the black and brown people who are
going to be victims if these people are not arrested.
That is the immediate question that's begged. And I think
the vast majority of people out there, regardless of your background,
(08:00):
your kids to be safe and want to be able
to walk in the streets and not worry about it.
I have said for a long time to me, the
test of whether a neighborhood is safe is are you
okay with your wife, your girlfriend, your daughter, your granddaughter
going for a jog at dusk in a neighborhood like
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if you're if you're a woman who is significant in
your life or a girl who's significant in your life,
goes outside and it's six PM and she's like, Hey,
I'm going to go for a jog for thirty minutes.
Are you comfortable with her doing that? It should be
the point, that should be the case that everywhere in
America we are comfortable with that happening. But right now,
(08:43):
tons of you listening, you'd say, yeah, my daughter, she
can't go for a job. My sixteen year old she's
training cross country, or she's a soccer player and she's
trying to stay in shape. She can't go jogging if
she might get out after dust. That is the ultimate test.
I lived this test.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
This reality in New York City in the in the nineties, yep,
where it was you can't go jogging at night. That's
why the Central Park jogger case was well, it was horrific,
but also it was so in hit home for so
many people. It's like, you can't even go jogging in
Central Park in this city. That was the without something
horrific happening. Yes, and and then you had the uh,
(09:23):
you know the realities of you couldn't go to Central
Park at night. But I would say, play in these
cases we're talking about, would you be comfortable driving through
these neighborhoods in a nice car and broad daylight. That's
a different. That's a different the standard you're talking about
a true safety. I think the standard you could apply
to the south side of Chicago, or I guess it's
the south in some of the western precincts of Chicago,
or you know, you could apply to the more dangerous
(09:44):
parts of Memphis, New Orleans. You get on the list
of these cities is would you be willing to drain up?
Would you get in your friends Mercedes or your friend's
BMW or whatever and drive through these areas, spend an
hour driving around and feel safe? And I think in
some of these places you would say, absolutely not. Would
you stop and get gas? When you talked about this,
(10:04):
And we're not I think the primary people who are
gonna be victims of crime, and by which I mean
we're grown men, not elderly. Like we're not in theory
easy marks. You see all those push ups that Clay
did on that video. No one's gonna mess with Clay.
We're not easy marks. I mean, we're six foot you know,
(10:24):
decent sized guys, right, Some got some weight to throw
around over here, maybe a little too much, but you know,
I could box out if I need to.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
But when you were in Saint Louis and they told you, hey,
you can't walk anywhere at this hotel. And when I
was in Memphis.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
They told me not to go stroll around at night
by myself in the downtown the night, like the main
part of downtown, the heart of the city. They straight
up told.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Me that I'm staying in one of the nicer areas
of Memphis with my kid because he's got an event
going on. And the lady working the front desk at
the hotel at eight thirty pm was like, are you
sure you want to go outside? And I was like, well,
I you know, I forgot my charger. I'm just going
to go fill up my gas tank and get a
(11:08):
charger at the local gas station. Here. It's like, okay,
be careful at eight thirty I mean, I mean, this
is where we are. To your point, Saint Louis. I
want the National Guard called in State Guard, but obviously
in many different people. I want to call it everywhere
I live in Tennessee. I wish they would call the
(11:30):
National Guard and deploy it in Memphis. At your point
on Saint Louis, I think a lot of people out
there who live in the Saint Louis area are like, yeah,
I'd like more security Kansas City, New Orleans, Chicago, Baltimore.
Why would we not if I were the governor, and
a lot of you out there are like, oh, I
don't know about that, Clay. If I were the governor,
(11:51):
I'd be considering calling in the National Guard to deploy
in the State Guard, but National Guard to deploy in
Memphis and say we're not going to allow Memphis to
have a murder rate that is basically twenty x what's
happening in New York City. Not going to allow it.
There's too many innocent people being killed. I think this
is a great decision all over the place.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Well, I think that on on crime and also on
the border for example. Going forward, there's going to have
to be some national level Democrat attempt to co opt
these issues for themselves a little bit, as in, yeah,
they have to come up with we're part of the solution,
not continue to perpetuate the problem, because these have become
huge political liabilities for them. I mean, the immigration thing,
(12:35):
the illegals, the ten million under Biden was clearly a
major might have been the deciding issue quite honestly, in
this last election, I think you could argue that it
was I mean, the single most you know, intractable, pervasive
and Democrats getting hammered on an issue. And so I
think on this on this issue also of making cities safer.
(12:57):
You know, it may not change the vote in Chicago,
but it might change to vote in some places that
are purple. It might make people think in the suburbs
of some of these cities, you know what, I can't
vote for some lunatic Democrat again. And that's where the
political weakness lies.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I'll tell you what it does. I think a lot
of black guys again, over twenty percent of them voted
Trump in twenty twenty four. I think a lot of
them look around and say this is unacceptable, and they
don't accept the Brandon Johnson argument of hey, we got
to stand up like why should we not have more safety?
Speaker 5 (13:29):
Why?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
And look black women too, But they have been more
committed to the Democrat Party. When you get to the
point where it's one in five, one in four black
men are voting for Trump, that's a real conversation that's
taking place now in the black community. And I think
when you look around in Chicago. You say this is
unacceptable by the way, I am fired up. The NFL
(13:51):
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(14:13):
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Speaker 5 (15:12):
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Let's hit some of your talkbacks. First email from Eric
(15:32):
says she's cosplaying I'm black, although I don't speak for
all of us. She's only appealing to a small group
of blacks. Stepanfetchit comes to mind growing number of black
conservatives highlight the stranglehold being released from the next of Blacks.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Thank God. Curtis from Florida says, though Clay's playing right
into Jasmine Crockett's hands by calling her dumb aa.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
Clan Bug loved the show. Tuning in to you talking
about Jasmin Crockett. I think she's playing You're playing into
her hands. Clay gotta go with Buck on this one.
Rush was a master at this. He'd say, cut something controversial,
get the left in an opera. They totally take it
out of context and fall into his trap. I think Clay,
when you say she sounds dumb, it enforces what she's
(16:17):
saying to this black audiences. She's pandering to. Hey, they
think you're dumb. I get you. I sound like you.
I can talk like y'all right now, anytime, any day.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Good take. I disagree, but fair take. Jalen from Memphis says,
let's see what Jayalen has to say.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
BB High clam Buck as a black guy, been black
on my life. What I want to say is that, unfortunately,
because liberals are emotion based, Jasmine Crockett's speaking style, it
connects with the emotional type of issue, to an emotional
type of mindset that liberals have, and it does have
(16:54):
an effect.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
All right, I agree with Jail, Jailen and Curtis go ahead,
keep firing away. By the way, I asked for AOC
sounding like Jasmine Crockett. I think they found at least
one of these. Let's see if she sounded like Jasmine Crockett.
This is June twenty four. AOC at a Bronx cut
twenty eight. I'm gonna give AOC. By the way, it's
(17:40):
a little bit hard to hear there. That is nowhere
near Jasmine Crockett level. I mean, that's AOC. I remember
this rally where she's like jumping around in tennis.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Shoes and I think they're playing hip hop music in
the South Bronx and she's like say, I'm tired of y'all.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
You know, y'all. I don't know about y'all, but I'm tired.
I'm out here fighting.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I think she said on these streets or something like
that was the quote. She's Sandy Cortez from Westchester. Tucker
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(19:00):
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(19:42):
and that will be a very good thing. With that
in mind, mister Clay, I have to bring attention for
a moment here to the New York Times and the
way that they are trying to run interference or obfuscation
in propaganda for Mamdani the comedy, who is a I
(20:06):
believe self described as a democratic socialist. And so now
we're going to get into this game. We're somebody to
get to get support and to get the left behind them.
They say I'm a democratic socialist. I'm a democratic socialist,
and we say, okay, so you're a socialist, right uh.
And this should be pretty straightforward because it's in the name.
But they play the games.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
This is from the New York Times over the weekend
that mister Cuomo used both of his appearances on Fox
News last week talking about the opponent from Mamdanni the
New York race. Cuomo to criticize Mam Donnie's left leaning views,
warning that they would be a death now for New
York City. New York City people are not socialists, mister
Cuomo said, New York City people are not socialist. Neither
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actually is mister Mamdani. The New York Times rejoins he
is a Democratic socialist, which means his beliefs are similar
to those of socialists, but not exactly the same. He
is a member of both the National Democratic Socialists of
America and it's New York City chapter. What does the
New York Times think that it's doing here. It's funny
because really, more and more it's only read by left
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wing people or people on the right who want to
trash it. And they're trying to tell everybody don't call
him a socialist, even though he's a socialist. What do
you think his term in office would actually be like?
Because the reason why I bring it up is, again,
I'm frustrated that there hasn't been a coalition of somebody
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to sit down with Andrew Cuomo, with Curtis Leewa and
with Eric Adams and really say, okay, get out of
the race. One of you has to be the guy.
And I think Eric Adams would win if everybody else
got out. I'm not sure Cuomo would win.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Oh, I think you have it backwards on this one.
I think Cuomo has a much better chance than Adams play.
Adams's numbers are absolutely like pitiful. He's in single digit support.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
I think, well, so I think he would I could win.
I could be wrong. I think that Cuomo could win.
I think that Sliwa has virtually no chance of winning.
So I don't understand what he's doing. And I understand
that a lot of you at w R he's a Republican.
I'm not saying that I disagree with him on the policies.
I'm saying that if you look at this situation, Mam
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Donnie is such a big threat that otherwise not political
allies should come together from keeping going to office. Having
said that, it seems like he is saying that he
would not change very much suddenly as he is now
trying to run for office. For instance, Jessica Tish, who
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has done a really good job, it appears to be
fair to her running the NYPD, driving down crime, all
these things. Buck, I looked it up through the end
of August and the New York City team. You can
correct me if I'm wrong on this. I believe there
were only two hundred and one murders in New York
City between so nine months, So that would put us
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on pace for two seventy something like that. Ish because
probably a little bit lower because summer tends to be
higher rates of crime in general. That's really good, right,
I'm not saying that I wish I wish there was
no murders all those things. I get that there's still.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Clay is decidedly despite all the pushback anti murderers we
have just I'm gonna stick as hard on the anti
murderer camp as I can. But he's now saying he
would leave her in charge. I wonder how much of
him is going to be he says all these crazy things,
and then when push comes to shove, when he actually
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gets into the office, whether he's not going to do
very much to actually implement the agenda he claimed he
would have.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (23:52):
This is bigger, that's this is quite a gamble, right.
I mean, now you're talking about a situation. So I'm
very clear, I think on what happened through because I
was living in New York. Right, So Giuliani comes in
and he's wiat or you know, he cleans up the town,
he fixes it, he gets it on the right course.
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NYPD CompStat it all. It all comes together, and now
you have this city that is that is incredibly on
the rise and is a a crime reduction story, not
just for the country. By the way, it became a globe.
New York City has connections to police departments all over
all over the world. This has been a long standing practice.
(24:34):
But they have very close relationships with other n They
do information sharing. I was a part of this Intel
division now it's Intel Bureau. It's actually gotten bigger since
I left.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
And Jesse Tish, who's now the commissioner, was one of
my one of my peers. We didn't work in the
same office, but on the same general issue at the time.
And Uh, because she's only a couple I think she's
your age, Clay. She's only a couple of years old
than me. And the NYPD story is that they managed
to to fix all this stuff. And then Bloomberg comes
in and says, Okay, look, I'm a Democrat, but I
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also like safety and investment and clean streets, and so
I'm gonna keep doing the smart things. Does Bloomberg say
what you will. He's a smart guy. I disagree with
him on SODA's and gun control, but he's a smart guy.
Deblasio comes in and he's like, we've had way too
much prosperity, safety and growth. It's time for it's time
(25:26):
to start just turning the wheels of communism from inside
the system. And it's you know, if he inherited a
great situation. So it took a while. It's like Gavin
Newsom in California. Takes a while to ruin these places, right,
you know, the Bolshoy was still like the best ballet
in the world in the seventies in the Soviet Union
because they had, you know, one hundred and fifty years
(25:48):
of like in me or one hundred years of you know,
it takes a while.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
To ruin some of these things.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
And I'm just you know, in some of the greatest
writers of the twentieth century were Soviet writers, not because
of the Soviet Union as like a font of creative energy,
but because Russia and its history. Okay, so he comes
in and then and then you get to Mayor Eric
Adams play, and then the wheels of communism because of
Dablasio are just chewing up the city and ruining everything,
(26:15):
and and Adams comes in and he's like, Okay, I
don't want to do this anymore.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
But he's not. He's not an adept enough leader and
manager to stop it. Really.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Maybe he has slowed the progression, but it's it's you know,
it's kind of kept going. Where would Mam Donni be
on this? That's that's really good. Bring us back to
the question would he be a Deblasio or would he
be something else? Because Deblasio, I truly believe, for ideological reasons,
intentionally ruined the city of New York as much as
he could. He didn't ruin it totally, but he intentionally
made every bad decision that could be made, every stupid move.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
That he could possibly have pulled off.
Speaker 7 (26:49):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
If Mom Donnie were to speak left and govern right,
first of all, I would I would give ten or
one to ten.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I always get this wrong. Whatever the eye A very
long odds that he would do that ten to one,
ten to one, I'd give ten to one odds that
he would do that. And even if he did, I'm
not sure that he has the This is where I
think it's an aner Kandoms thing. I don't think he
has the ability to figure it out right. So maybe
on the NYPDS side, at least he knows to leave
a good commissioner in place, But there's a lot of
(27:19):
other stuff that the city needs needs help with. I
just don't know if he has the functional ability because
he's never really had a job like this to actually
implement a lot of the things that he's saying. And so, look,
is it a big risk? Yes, what would I live
in New York City?
Speaker 4 (27:36):
No?
Speaker 2 (27:38):
If I made a good living and my job were
something where I could live other places, I would probably
say I'm out. Now. I understand a lot of you
have kids in school, it's hard to move, you've got
jobs that are not portable in natural nature, You've got
family that you are deeply connected to in neighborhoods, and
all those other things. But if he's actually going to
(28:02):
implement the agenda that he is saying he's going to implement,
then I think New York City is in severe Uh So,
I know, I.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Know Florida realtors personally, you're already running specific ads online
to target, you know, in a good way, but to
target New Yorkers who they think are high income and
will want to flee to Florida if Mom Donnie wins like,
that's already happening here. So if you if you're wondering
if your Florida real estate prices are probably gonna keep
(28:32):
going up, they I think they are.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
I I would be nervous if I'm a New York
City guy, uh and gal and I just I look
at it and a part of me thinks, could this
be a bait and switch where he says all these
crazy left wing things and then when it comes to
actually delivering on them, it's very difficult to deliver on them.
(28:55):
And I just.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
So you're talking about Lax sounds like you think that
he's even if he's like a Leninist, he's an incompetent Leninist,
so maybe he can't get it done. That's a different
thing than I actually repudiate Vladimir Lenind you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Yes, it's a different fine. I think that there could
be I'm not sure how committed he actually is to it.
I think this guy just wants to be elected mayor,
and I think he may not be able to implement
it because what's he done to succeed what management ability
does he have where you look at it and you say, boy,
this guy's been really really good to your point, Bloomberg,
(29:31):
Bloomberg is a phenomenal business right like he is. Whatever
you think about Mayor Bloomberg, he built one of the
all time great media U and business. I think he
was the richest New Yorker. I think he was the
richest New Yorker in New York State when he was mayor.
I think that's true. He was worth like sixty billion
dollars or something like that. I mean, the guy is
(29:52):
an incredibly skilled business figure. Doblasio is a mess. Juliani,
I think really got it with what was it Bratton,
his initial commissioner that he worked with in the New
York City PD. I think he knew because he was
a prosecutor, what do you have to do to move
the levers of crime in New York City. I just
don't know that mom, Donnie has the skill set buck
(30:14):
to actually implement anything that he's claiming he's gonna do.
According to groc Bloomberg is still the richest guy in
New York State, worth over one hundred billion dollars. And
unless I'm mistaken, Bloomberg made all of his money. Yeah, no,
he did not inherit. He didn't inherit eighty billion and
wants to tell you about the twenty let me tell
(30:35):
you something that you inherit eighty billion.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
The last twenty is not hard. But you know that
that yes, that is the case. He completely built his
own business. So he's clearly a very high IQ, very
capable guy. And that showed in the City of New
York was he was a fantastic mayor. And people can
say what they want. I knew very conservative cops in
the NYPD, and they would not say a bad word
(30:57):
about Bloomberg full stop, even though they did agree with
them on some stuff. They're like, he's doing a great job. Mom,
Donnie Clay, you could have a Kami who's also incompetence. Now,
this is what the question that I was asking you is,
does the incompetence work in the favor of the city,
Because yes, yeah, sadly, that's that may be the case.
(31:17):
Like when he says things like running having city run
grocery stores.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Is one of the craziest ideas on the planet. It's
just it's just bonkers.
Speaker 8 (31:25):
It's it's also you think about this, the fact that
they don't have even the grocery store is one of
the hardest business They have a one or two percent
profit margin.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
The produce is constantly, constantly having to be replaced because
obviously it has perishability issues. Getting You know this better
than anybody, all you guys, getting things into New York
City is incredibly expensive, difficult shipping all the I mean,
the idea that somehow the government is going to run
a better grocery store and save people money is so crazy.
By the way, two hundred and nine murders in New
(32:00):
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That is a twenty percent decline from last year and
would put him on pace for somewhere in the two hundreds,
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Speaker 2 (33:33):
Podcasts crossing crossing paths. Here, let's play this, well, you
know what I'll say, JB. Pritzker for the top of
the next hour, Let's hit a bunch of these calls
kenon Lehigh Acres, Florida. What you got for us?
Speaker 9 (33:46):
Oh? Yes, About thirty years ago, in nineteen ninety five,
right around the nineties, I was at Fort City Mall
and I tell my father that I was gonna take
the seventy ninth Street bus all the way from the mall,
all the way to the Redline in Chicago. My dad
told me, look, stay off that bus is if don't
even go there seventy ninth Street, it's bad. I end
up taking the bus, you know. I defied and took
(34:07):
the bus all the way to the Red Line. Well,
one of the stops had about eight people right at
the corner. The bus driver drove right by it. Bus
driver turns around when he went by him, says, I
just saved your butt. And then I continue to take
the Red Line all the way down into the city. Now,
that was in ninety five, between ninety five and two dollars,
and that's how bad it was then. Now, my dad
(34:27):
was a former CFD and worked in that neighborhood, and
so did my uncle worked in that neighborhood. Now in
those thirty something years, that neighborhood's been safe, has never
been safe. I challenged the governor, and I challenged the
mayor to without a security detail, to take that take
the seventy ninth Street bus, which is one of the
worst streets in Chicago, and take that to the Red Line.
I guarantee there's a lot of trouble on both of them.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Thank you. Actually, don't think that's a bad idea. If
you are if you are the mayor, you're the governor,
just walk the streets of the community in the most
dangerous areas with out a huge security detail. Would they
do it. I'm sure they wouldn't. I'm sure their security
details wouldn't let it happen. Wade and Fayetteville, North Carolina.
What you got for us?
Speaker 10 (35:09):
You know you were talking about protecting black and brown
from crime in the areas there. I ran for our
city council about back in twenty eleven. I actually got
elected crazy, but I went to all the community watch
meetings and guests who populated the community watch meetings the most.
It was blacks and this is in mixed race communities
(35:29):
and everything else. It was the blacks and writers saying,
we want to start the crime.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Yeah, you know, And so I don't understand not wanting
to go in there and do.
Speaker 10 (35:40):
That, because that's that's exactly the people that want you
to come in and stop.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Doing And you know, well, there's there's a it's a
great point, way and thank you for calling in.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
What you have is a lot of wealthy people is
really the point here. But wealthy, white and black and
you name it. Commentators on CNN and MSNBC who and
especially in the case of like a black commentator will
say that they are speaking for the black community on
this issue or in some capacity speaking from a black perspective.
(36:09):
It's like, well, are you speaking from the perspective of
somebody who spends most of the year at their house
in the Hamptons that's worth five or ten million dollars
like a lot of these TV hosts, or are you
speaking to the perspective of a black member of the
community who lives in a high crime area. Because they're
entirely different perspectives you're bringing to the issue.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
It's really easy clay for like.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
The Morning, Well The Morning Joe is changing their tuot
on this, But it's really easy for an MSNBC host
worth millions to be like, crime in Chicago's no problem.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
It's like you live in a link I mean in
a mansion in Lincoln Park. So yeah, you probably think
that walk the streets without your security detail. I bet
they wouldn't do it if they did. Their pinion much
change
Welcome in second hour of Clay and Buck. It kicks
off right now. Thanks for being here with us. So,
as we know, a major push by this Trump White House,
the President himself has been on the issue of crime
in DC. We spent a lot of time on it,
and I think.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
So far it has been a big political winner for
Donald Trump because he's doing two things simultaneously. It's a
brilliant Trump move. Brilliant Trump move he has.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
He is putting wins up on the board while also
encouraging in essence because he pushed for it Democrats to
defend the indefensible. So it's coming at this from two sides.
One is it's just the right thing to do. It's
a good thing to do, make people safer, bring down
the murder rate, bring down the carjacking rate. Yay, we
think we'd all be on board for that, right, But
(00:49):
two Democrats go.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Hey, like, so there's a lot of murders in DC.
I mean, who doesn't have this?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
A lot of places don't have the problem. But you
know what I mean, they're trying to suggest like no
big deal. And in the process everyone looks at them,
including some Democrats, look at them and say what is
your problem, like we actually want fewer murders. We need
to be a party some places. It has to be
which one of us is better at achieving the desired
goal and the murder rate should be one of them.
(01:18):
Are Democrats? Are Republicans better at bringing this down? It
shouldn't be Democrats are the This is pretty good and
Republicans are. No, it is not, because it is clearly
way too high in DC and it's clearly way too
high in Chicago as well. Over the weekend, fifty people
shot eight faithly. Over Labor Day weekend, five zero fifty
(01:40):
people were shot in the city of Chicago.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Chicago is not that big. It is two million people,
about one point eight million, I think clay is the number.
New York is eight point five million by comparison, So
Chicago is Is it still larger than Houston is like
its own You know, you can like drive for an
hour and a half and still be in Houston. I
(02:05):
think technically so it's a little tough to metro areas.
It's still New York LA Chicago one two three. I
think Houston and Dallas are four and five if I'm
not mistaken again on the metropolitan areas.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
But again, Houston, it's like, what is Houston. Well, it's
a very big place. So fifty people shot at so
many people. I think we're all clear on that. It's
not like this is aberrant numbers for Chicago either. This
is some random no on Labor Day weekend you go back.
There are a lot of weekends where you have thirty shot,
forty shot. I mean, these numbers are out of control.
(02:40):
And it was very interesting to me Clay this morning,
sure enough, on good Old MSNBC, there was a conversation
that was happening, and it was Joe Scarborough. But we'll
get into this reaching out in essence to the Democrat intelligency,
(03:00):
including the governor of Illinois, of course includes in its
environs the city of Chicago, saying that it is time
to partner up with Trump on the issue of crume.
This is on MSNBC Play four.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I actually think that JB. Prinsker should do something radical.
I think you should pick up the phone, call the
President and say you know, and I know, you don't
have the constitutional authority to deploy the National Guard here
and to police my You can do that in DC,
you can't do that in Chicago. But let's partner up.
These are the most dangerous parts of my state. We
(03:35):
would love to figure out how to have a partnership
that's constitutional, that respects the sort of balance of federalism
between the federal government and the state government, and let's
work together to save lives.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
That sounds entirely reasonable, doesn't it. Play.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
It sounds like the kind of thing that somebody who
might be trying to make a move to be a
voice to bring the Democrats not toward the center but
towards sanity, would be making.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Good Old Morning Joe. I think he sees a laying clay.
He's wrong saying the president doesn't have the authority. He's
one hundred percent right with everything else he said. This
is what should happen. This is to be. To give
her credit, DC Mayor Muriel Bowser seems to be doing,
to the best of her ability, an attempt to work
(04:27):
with Trump to make Washington, DC safer. And I don't
understand why anyone out there would be trying to prevent
the President from making his or her city or state
safer than it otherwise would be. And we have here
is Brandon Johnson, the mayor of Chicago, contrasting with the
(04:51):
reasonable take that we just heard that's what you would
have heard on MSNBC. Worth noting that if you are
losing Joe Scarborough on MSNBC, how many MSNBC viewers might
be hearing somewhat same takes suddenly as part of Trump
two point zero. That to me is a sign that
(05:12):
the virulent Trump is Hitler agenda. Leave aside the fact
that we all know it's a lie. It doesn't rate anymore.
It doesn't actually motivate the viewers. Even you have Morning
Joe there, Joe Scarborough himself, who remembers a former Republican
so he can play you want to talk about code
switching this guy, he'll switch jerseys, He'll switch you know,
(05:33):
whatever was gonna He wrapped the Florida Gulf Coast, one
of the most beautiful places in the country. I believe
I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
So he would have been the thirty a congressman, right,
I mean he was yes at one point, yes, right,
I think yeah, yeah, as close as God's Country on
the Gulf of America, no less on the Gulf of America.
He would have been a congressman for it. But there's
that position, and then you get the more hardcore or
left wing Democrat position here from Chicago Mayor Johnson. This
(06:05):
is cut five. Here's the other approach to Chicago player.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
No federal troops in the city of Chicago, no militarized
force in the city of Chicago. We're gonna defend our
democracy in the city of Chicago. We're gonna protect the
humanity of every single person in the city of Chicago.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Uh, just slogans, meaningless community organizer slogans that will do
nothing to bring down the murder rate, nothing to address
the crime rate. I mean, somebody should just ask. Somebody
should ask the mayor of Chicago, is fifty people over
the weekend shot in your city too much? Do you
view that as an urgent problem, sir? And try to
(06:49):
pin him down on this, because he would just go
back into the slogan's play.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I don't understand what the audience is for arguing we're
gonna stand up to the president trying to bring more
law and order to cities that eighty one percent of
Americans believe have too much violence. Ninety nine percent of
Americans believe have some form of violence that's too much.
(07:16):
I don't understand who is out there. Again, this ties
in buck with the argument we saw from Mayor Karen
Vass where she just said the quiet part out loud.
She said, well, we can't have more police and more
National Guard troops because then too many black and brown
people are going to get arrested. So you really have
(07:36):
the argument being made of, well, there's gonna be too
many black and brown people arrested, so that's why we
don't want more law and order in the city. But
what about all the black and brown people who are
going to be victims if these people are not arrested.
That is the immediate question that's begged. And I think
the vast majority of people out there, regardless of your background,
(08:00):
your kids to be safe and want to be able
to walk in the streets and not worry about it.
I have said for a long time to me, the
test of whether a neighborhood is safe is are you
okay with your wife, your girlfriend, your daughter, your granddaughter
going for a jog at dusk in a neighborhood like
(08:20):
if you're if you're a woman who is significant in
your life or a girl who's significant in your life,
goes outside and it's six PM and she's like, Hey,
I'm going to go for a jog for thirty minutes.
Are you comfortable with her doing that? It should be
the point, that should be the case that everywhere in
America we are comfortable with that happening. But right now,
(08:43):
tons of you listening, you'd say, yeah, my daughter, she
can't go for a job. My sixteen year old she's
training cross country, or she's a soccer player and she's
trying to stay in shape. She can't go jogging if
she might get out after dust. That is the ultimate test.
I lived this test.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
This reality in New York City in the in the nineties, yep,
where it was you can't go jogging at night. That's
why the Central Park jogger case was well, it was horrific,
but also it was so in hit home for so
many people. It's like, you can't even go jogging in
Central Park in this city. That was the without something
horrific happening. Yes, and and then you had the uh,
(09:23):
you know the realities of you couldn't go to Central
Park at night. But I would say, play in these
cases we're talking about, would you be comfortable driving through
these neighborhoods in a nice car and broad daylight. That's
a different. That's a different the standard you're talking about
a true safety. I think the standard you could apply
to the south side of Chicago, or I guess it's
the south in some of the western precincts of Chicago,
or you know, you could apply to the more dangerous
(09:44):
parts of Memphis, New Orleans. You get on the list
of these cities is would you be willing to drain up?
Would you get in your friends Mercedes or your friend's
BMW or whatever and drive through these areas, spend an
hour driving around and feel safe? And I think in
some of these places you would say, absolutely not. Would
you stop and get gas? When you talked about this,
(10:04):
And we're not I think the primary people who are
gonna be victims of crime, and by which I mean
we're grown men, not elderly. Like we're not in theory
easy marks. You see all those push ups that Clay
did on that video. No one's gonna mess with Clay.
We're not easy marks. I mean, we're six foot you know,
(10:24):
decent sized guys, right, Some got some weight to throw
around over here, maybe a little too much, but you know,
I could box out if I need to.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
But when you were in Saint Louis and they told you, hey,
you can't walk anywhere at this hotel. And when I
was in Memphis.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
They told me not to go stroll around at night
by myself in the downtown the night, like the main
part of downtown, the heart of the city. They straight
up told.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Me that I'm staying in one of the nicer areas
of Memphis with my kid because he's got an event
going on. And the lady working the front desk at
the hotel at eight thirty pm was like, are you
sure you want to go outside? And I was like, well,
I you know, I forgot my charger. I'm just going
to go fill up my gas tank and get a
(11:08):
charger at the local gas station. Here. It's like, okay,
be careful at eight thirty I mean, I mean, this
is where we are. To your point, Saint Louis. I
want the National Guard called in State Guard, but obviously
in many different people. I want to call it everywhere
I live in Tennessee. I wish they would call the
(11:30):
National Guard and deploy it in Memphis. At your point
on Saint Louis, I think a lot of people out
there who live in the Saint Louis area are like, yeah,
I'd like more security Kansas City, New Orleans, Chicago, Baltimore.
Why would we not if I were the governor, and
a lot of you out there are like, oh, I
don't know about that, Clay. If I were the governor,
(11:51):
I'd be considering calling in the National Guard to deploy
in the State Guard, but National Guard to deploy in
Memphis and say we're not going to allow Memphis to
have a murder rate that is basically twenty x what's
happening in New York City. Not going to allow it.
There's too many innocent people being killed. I think this
is a great decision all over the place.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Well, I think that on on crime and also on
the border for example. Going forward, there's going to have
to be some national level Democrat attempt to co opt
these issues for themselves a little bit, as in, yeah,
they have to come up with we're part of the solution,
not continue to perpetuate the problem, because these have become
huge political liabilities for them. I mean, the immigration thing,
(12:35):
the illegals, the ten million under Biden was clearly a
major might have been the deciding issue quite honestly, in
this last election, I think you could argue that it
was I mean, the single most you know, intractable, pervasive
and Democrats getting hammered on an issue. And so I
think on this on this issue also of making cities safer.
(12:57):
You know, it may not change the vote in Chicago,
but it might change to vote in some places that
are purple. It might make people think in the suburbs
of some of these cities, you know what, I can't
vote for some lunatic Democrat again. And that's where the
political weakness lies.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I'll tell you what it does. I think a lot
of black guys again, over twenty percent of them voted
Trump in twenty twenty four. I think a lot of
them look around and say this is unacceptable, and they
don't accept the Brandon Johnson argument of hey, we got
to stand up like why should we not have more safety?
Speaker 5 (13:29):
Why?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
And look black women too, But they have been more
committed to the Democrat Party. When you get to the
point where it's one in five, one in four black
men are voting for Trump, that's a real conversation that's
taking place now in the black community. And I think
when you look around in Chicago. You say this is
unacceptable by the way, I am fired up. The NFL
(13:51):
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(14:13):
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Let's hit some of your talkbacks. First email from Eric
(15:32):
says she's cosplaying I'm black, although I don't speak for
all of us. She's only appealing to a small group
of blacks. Stepanfetchit comes to mind growing number of black
conservatives highlight the stranglehold being released from the next of Blacks.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Thank God. Curtis from Florida says, though Clay's playing right
into Jasmine Crockett's hands by calling her dumb aa.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
Clan Bug loved the show. Tuning in to you talking
about Jasmin Crockett. I think she's playing You're playing into
her hands. Clay gotta go with Buck on this one.
Rush was a master at this. He'd say, cut something controversial,
get the left in an opera. They totally take it
out of context and fall into his trap. I think Clay,
when you say she sounds dumb, it enforces what she's
(16:17):
saying to this black audiences. She's pandering to. Hey, they
think you're dumb. I get you. I sound like you.
I can talk like y'all right now, anytime, any day.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Good take. I disagree, but fair take. Jalen from Memphis says,
let's see what Jayalen has to say.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
BB High clam Buck as a black guy, been black
on my life. What I want to say is that, unfortunately,
because liberals are emotion based, Jasmine Crockett's speaking style, it
connects with the emotional type of issue, to an emotional
type of mindset that liberals have, and it does have
(16:54):
an effect.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
All right, I agree with Jail, Jailen and Curtis go ahead,
keep firing away. By the way, I asked for AOC
sounding like Jasmine Crockett. I think they found at least
one of these. Let's see if she sounded like Jasmine Crockett.
This is June twenty four. AOC at a Bronx cut
twenty eight. I'm gonna give AOC. By the way, it's
(17:40):
a little bit hard to hear there. That is nowhere
near Jasmine Crockett level. I mean, that's AOC. I remember
this rally where she's like jumping around in tennis.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Shoes and I think they're playing hip hop music in
the South Bronx and she's like say, I'm tired of y'all.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
You know, y'all. I don't know about y'all, but I'm tired.
I'm out here fighting.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I think she said on these streets or something like
that was the quote. She's Sandy Cortez from Westchester. Tucker
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we'll try to get a bunch more on the air,
(19:42):
and that will be a very good thing. With that
in mind, mister Clay, I have to bring attention for
a moment here to the New York Times and the
way that they are trying to run interference or obfuscation
in propaganda for Mamdani the comedy, who is a I
(20:06):
believe self described as a democratic socialist. And so now
we're going to get into this game. We're somebody to
get to get support and to get the left behind them.
They say I'm a democratic socialist. I'm a democratic socialist,
and we say, okay, so you're a socialist, right uh.
And this should be pretty straightforward because it's in the name.
But they play the games.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
This is from the New York Times over the weekend
that mister Cuomo used both of his appearances on Fox
News last week talking about the opponent from Mamdanni the
New York race. Cuomo to criticize Mam Donnie's left leaning views,
warning that they would be a death now for New
York City. New York City people are not socialists, mister
Cuomo said, New York City people are not socialist. Neither
(20:49):
actually is mister Mamdani. The New York Times rejoins he
is a Democratic socialist, which means his beliefs are similar
to those of socialists, but not exactly the same. He
is a member of both the National Democratic Socialists of
America and it's New York City chapter. What does the
New York Times think that it's doing here. It's funny
because really, more and more it's only read by left
(21:09):
wing people or people on the right who want to
trash it. And they're trying to tell everybody don't call
him a socialist, even though he's a socialist. What do
you think his term in office would actually be like?
Because the reason why I bring it up is, again,
I'm frustrated that there hasn't been a coalition of somebody
(21:31):
to sit down with Andrew Cuomo, with Curtis Leewa and
with Eric Adams and really say, okay, get out of
the race. One of you has to be the guy.
And I think Eric Adams would win if everybody else
got out. I'm not sure Cuomo would win.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Oh, I think you have it backwards on this one.
I think Cuomo has a much better chance than Adams play.
Adams's numbers are absolutely like pitiful. He's in single digit support.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
I think, well, so I think he would I could win.
I could be wrong. I think that Cuomo could win.
I think that Sliwa has virtually no chance of winning.
So I don't understand what he's doing. And I understand
that a lot of you at w R he's a Republican.
I'm not saying that I disagree with him on the policies.
I'm saying that if you look at this situation, Mam
(22:23):
Donnie is such a big threat that otherwise not political
allies should come together from keeping going to office. Having
said that, it seems like he is saying that he
would not change very much suddenly as he is now
trying to run for office. For instance, Jessica Tish, who
(22:44):
has done a really good job, it appears to be
fair to her running the NYPD, driving down crime, all
these things. Buck, I looked it up through the end
of August and the New York City team. You can
correct me if I'm wrong on this. I believe there
were only two hundred and one murders in New York
City between so nine months, So that would put us
(23:06):
on pace for two seventy something like that. Ish because
probably a little bit lower because summer tends to be
higher rates of crime in general. That's really good, right,
I'm not saying that I wish I wish there was
no murders all those things. I get that there's still.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Clay is decidedly despite all the pushback anti murderers we
have just I'm gonna stick as hard on the anti
murderer camp as I can. But he's now saying he
would leave her in charge. I wonder how much of
him is going to be he says all these crazy things,
and then when push comes to shove, when he actually
(23:44):
gets into the office, whether he's not going to do
very much to actually implement the agenda he claimed he
would have.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (23:52):
This is bigger, that's this is quite a gamble, right.
I mean, now you're talking about a situation. So I'm
very clear, I think on what happened through because I
was living in New York. Right, So Giuliani comes in
and he's wiat or you know, he cleans up the town,
he fixes it, he gets it on the right course.
(24:13):
NYPD CompStat it all. It all comes together, and now
you have this city that is that is incredibly on
the rise and is a a crime reduction story, not
just for the country. By the way, it became a globe.
New York City has connections to police departments all over
all over the world. This has been a long standing practice.
(24:34):
But they have very close relationships with other n They
do information sharing. I was a part of this Intel
division now it's Intel Bureau. It's actually gotten bigger since
I left.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
And Jesse Tish, who's now the commissioner, was one of
my one of my peers. We didn't work in the
same office, but on the same general issue at the time.
And Uh, because she's only a couple I think she's
your age, Clay. She's only a couple of years old
than me. And the NYPD story is that they managed
to to fix all this stuff. And then Bloomberg comes
in and says, Okay, look, I'm a Democrat, but I
(25:05):
also like safety and investment and clean streets, and so
I'm gonna keep doing the smart things. Does Bloomberg say
what you will. He's a smart guy. I disagree with
him on SODA's and gun control, but he's a smart guy.
Deblasio comes in and he's like, we've had way too
much prosperity, safety and growth. It's time for it's time
(25:26):
to start just turning the wheels of communism from inside
the system. And it's you know, if he inherited a
great situation. So it took a while. It's like Gavin
Newsom in California. Takes a while to ruin these places, right,
you know, the Bolshoy was still like the best ballet
in the world in the seventies in the Soviet Union
because they had, you know, one hundred and fifty years
(25:48):
of like in me or one hundred years of you know,
it takes a while.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
To ruin some of these things.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
And I'm just you know, in some of the greatest
writers of the twentieth century were Soviet writers, not because
of the Soviet Union as like a font of creative energy,
but because Russia and its history. Okay, so he comes
in and then and then you get to Mayor Eric
Adams play, and then the wheels of communism because of
Dablasio are just chewing up the city and ruining everything,
(26:15):
and and Adams comes in and he's like, Okay, I
don't want to do this anymore.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
But he's not. He's not an adept enough leader and
manager to stop it. Really.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Maybe he has slowed the progression, but it's it's you know,
it's kind of kept going. Where would Mam Donni be
on this? That's that's really good. Bring us back to
the question would he be a Deblasio or would he
be something else? Because Deblasio, I truly believe, for ideological reasons,
intentionally ruined the city of New York as much as
he could. He didn't ruin it totally, but he intentionally
made every bad decision that could be made, every stupid move.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
That he could possibly have pulled off.
Speaker 7 (26:49):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
If Mom Donnie were to speak left and govern right,
first of all, I would I would give ten or
one to ten.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I always get this wrong. Whatever the eye A very
long odds that he would do that ten to one,
ten to one, I'd give ten to one odds that
he would do that. And even if he did, I'm
not sure that he has the This is where I
think it's an aner Kandoms thing. I don't think he
has the ability to figure it out right. So maybe
on the NYPDS side, at least he knows to leave
a good commissioner in place, But there's a lot of
(27:19):
other stuff that the city needs needs help with. I
just don't know if he has the functional ability because
he's never really had a job like this to actually
implement a lot of the things that he's saying. And so, look,
is it a big risk? Yes, what would I live
in New York City?
Speaker 4 (27:36):
No?
Speaker 2 (27:38):
If I made a good living and my job were
something where I could live other places, I would probably
say I'm out. Now. I understand a lot of you
have kids in school, it's hard to move, you've got
jobs that are not portable in natural nature, You've got
family that you are deeply connected to in neighborhoods, and
all those other things. But if he's actually going to
(28:02):
implement the agenda that he is saying he's going to implement,
then I think New York City is in severe Uh So,
I know, I.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Know Florida realtors personally, you're already running specific ads online
to target, you know, in a good way, but to
target New Yorkers who they think are high income and
will want to flee to Florida if Mom Donnie wins like,
that's already happening here. So if you if you're wondering
if your Florida real estate prices are probably gonna keep
(28:32):
going up, they I think they are.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
I I would be nervous if I'm a New York
City guy, uh and gal and I just I look
at it and a part of me thinks, could this
be a bait and switch where he says all these
crazy left wing things and then when it comes to
actually delivering on them, it's very difficult to deliver on them.
(28:55):
And I just.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
So you're talking about Lax sounds like you think that
he's even if he's like a Leninist, he's an incompetent Leninist,
so maybe he can't get it done. That's a different
thing than I actually repudiate Vladimir Lenind you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Yes, it's a different fine. I think that there could
be I'm not sure how committed he actually is to it.
I think this guy just wants to be elected mayor,
and I think he may not be able to implement
it because what's he done to succeed what management ability
does he have where you look at it and you say, boy,
this guy's been really really good to your point, Bloomberg,
(29:31):
Bloomberg is a phenomenal business right like he is. Whatever
you think about Mayor Bloomberg, he built one of the
all time great media U and business. I think he
was the richest New Yorker. I think he was the
richest New Yorker in New York State when he was mayor.
I think that's true. He was worth like sixty billion
dollars or something like that. I mean, the guy is
(29:52):
an incredibly skilled business figure. Doblasio is a mess. Juliani,
I think really got it with what was it Bratton,
his initial commissioner that he worked with in the New
York City PD. I think he knew because he was
a prosecutor, what do you have to do to move
the levers of crime in New York City. I just
don't know that mom, Donnie has the skill set buck
(30:14):
to actually implement anything that he's claiming he's gonna do.
According to groc Bloomberg is still the richest guy in
New York State, worth over one hundred billion dollars. And
unless I'm mistaken, Bloomberg made all of his money. Yeah, no,
he did not inherit. He didn't inherit eighty billion and
wants to tell you about the twenty let me tell
(30:35):
you something that you inherit eighty billion.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
The last twenty is not hard. But you know that
that yes, that is the case. He completely built his
own business. So he's clearly a very high IQ, very
capable guy. And that showed in the City of New
York was he was a fantastic mayor. And people can
say what they want. I knew very conservative cops in
the NYPD, and they would not say a bad word
(30:57):
about Bloomberg full stop, even though they did agree with
them on some stuff. They're like, he's doing a great job. Mom,
Donnie Clay, you could have a Kami who's also incompetence. Now,
this is what the question that I was asking you is,
does the incompetence work in the favor of the city,
Because yes, yeah, sadly, that's that may be the case.
(31:17):
Like when he says things like running having city run
grocery stores.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Is one of the craziest ideas on the planet. It's
just it's just bonkers.
Speaker 8 (31:25):
It's it's also you think about this, the fact that
they don't have even the grocery store is one of
the hardest business They have a one or two percent
profit margin.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
The produce is constantly, constantly having to be replaced because
obviously it has perishability issues. Getting You know this better
than anybody, all you guys, getting things into New York
City is incredibly expensive, difficult shipping all the I mean,
the idea that somehow the government is going to run
a better grocery store and save people money is so crazy.
By the way, two hundred and nine murders in New
(32:00):
York City year to date through the end of August.
That is a twenty percent decline from last year and
would put him on pace for somewhere in the two hundreds,
which is a very good number for a city the
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Podcasts crossing crossing paths. Here, let's play this, well, you
know what I'll say, JB. Pritzker for the top of
the next hour, Let's hit a bunch of these calls
kenon Lehigh Acres, Florida. What you got for us?
Speaker 9 (33:46):
Oh? Yes, About thirty years ago, in nineteen ninety five,
right around the nineties, I was at Fort City Mall
and I tell my father that I was gonna take
the seventy ninth Street bus all the way from the mall,
all the way to the Redline in Chicago. My dad
told me, look, stay off that bus is if don't
even go there seventy ninth Street, it's bad. I end
up taking the bus, you know. I defied and took
(34:07):
the bus all the way to the Red Line. Well,
one of the stops had about eight people right at
the corner. The bus driver drove right by it. Bus
driver turns around when he went by him, says, I
just saved your butt. And then I continue to take
the Red Line all the way down into the city. Now,
that was in ninety five, between ninety five and two dollars,
and that's how bad it was then. Now, my dad
(34:27):
was a former CFD and worked in that neighborhood, and
so did my uncle worked in that neighborhood. Now in
those thirty something years, that neighborhood's been safe, has never
been safe. I challenged the governor, and I challenged the
mayor to without a security detail, to take that take
the seventy ninth Street bus, which is one of the
worst streets in Chicago, and take that to the Red Line.
I guarantee there's a lot of trouble on both of them.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Thank you. Actually, don't think that's a bad idea. If
you are if you are the mayor, you're the governor,
just walk the streets of the community in the most
dangerous areas with out a huge security detail. Would they
do it. I'm sure they wouldn't. I'm sure their security
details wouldn't let it happen. Wade and Fayetteville, North Carolina.
What you got for us?
Speaker 10 (35:09):
You know you were talking about protecting black and brown
from crime in the areas there. I ran for our
city council about back in twenty eleven. I actually got
elected crazy, but I went to all the community watch
meetings and guests who populated the community watch meetings the most.
It was blacks and this is in mixed race communities
(35:29):
and everything else. It was the blacks and writers saying,
we want to start the crime.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Yeah, you know, And so I don't understand not wanting
to go in there and do.
Speaker 10 (35:40):
That, because that's that's exactly the people that want you
to come in and stop.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Doing And you know, well, there's there's a it's a
great point, way and thank you for calling in.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
What you have is a lot of wealthy people is
really the point here. But wealthy, white and black and
you name it. Commentators on CNN and MSNBC who and
especially in the case of like a black commentator will
say that they are speaking for the black community on
this issue or in some capacity speaking from a black perspective.
(36:09):
It's like, well, are you speaking from the perspective of
somebody who spends most of the year at their house
in the Hamptons that's worth five or ten million dollars
like a lot of these TV hosts, or are you
speaking to the perspective of a black member of the
community who lives in a high crime area. Because they're
entirely different perspectives you're bringing to the issue.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
It's really easy clay for like.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
The Morning, Well The Morning Joe is changing their tuot
on this, But it's really easy for an MSNBC host
worth millions to be like, crime in Chicago's no problem.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
It's like you live in a link I mean in
a mansion in Lincoln Park. So yeah, you probably think
that walk the streets without your security detail. I bet
they wouldn't do it if they did. Their pinion much
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