January 29, 2025 • 36 mins
Are we done with changing names to avoid offending people? Captain America controversy. Who would win a state capital competition, Clay or Buck? Pretty privilege and good-looking guys on the radio.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us as we are rolling
through the Wednesday edition of the program, giving you a
little bit of a idea of what's going on right now.
RFK Junior testifying confirmation hearing in front of the Senate
as he seeks to become the HHS secretary, lined up
(00:24):
to begin soon, Talsey Gabbard, Cash Pateel in earnest the
Trump cabinet being filled out. I still think Buck, we
need to play some of the Caroline Kennedy commentary because
it is nasty just.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
From a pure family relations perspective. I'm kind of staggered
by that, and we'll hit that with you at some point. Also,
our friend Senator Ran Paul, who.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Is involved in many of these confirmation hearings going forward
in the Senate, will swing by in the third hour
of the program and tell us what he sees and
expects going forward. And we just broke down the federal
employee potential buyout. We still need to talk about the
banning of trans surgeries for under eighteens, which Trump has
(01:11):
tried to enforce with executive order. We will discuss that
because it is a major cultural flashpoint. But speaking of flashpoints,
but because we went to break, we were talking about
all of the idiocy in Hollywood, and we started off
this week with Selena Gomez crying on camera because Trump
is deporting criminal, illegal aliens from the country and how
(01:36):
out of touch with reality she was. And we've talked
about Woke snow White, Rachel Zegler I believe was her name,
and the fact that she's been so publicly outspoken that
basically Disney has decided that they don't need to even
release this Woke snow White remake live action that they
were trying to do. Also, a lot of you weighed
(01:56):
in with Peter dinkliche commentary. Peter Dinkledge actually was upset
about the Seven Dwarfs being used in the movie. I
don't even know what that guy's talking about, but the
result ended up being that there were gonna be grown
people playing the Seven Dwarfs, which was perfectly absurd because
it took away from little people, midgets, whatever you want
(02:18):
to call them, the opportunity to be stars in those
movies other than the one role on Game of Thrones
and an occasional role here and there the Wizard of
Oz and the snow White probably the greatest.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I guess maybe the Charlie and the chocolate factory. That's
like the best possible opportunity if you're a midget actor, right,
I mean, are there other huge opportunities out there? I
think little person is the preferred nomenclature, I understand. I
think we got to push back against changing words, Like
I've seen some momentum of the uncancellation of words out
(02:56):
there that actually is making me cautiously optimistic, and so
I'm going to bring back midget. I don't think it's
offensive Eskimo.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I think we should be able to say, like, there
are certain words that I don't think are remotely offensive.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
My understanding with Eskimo is the problem with Eskimo is
that that was one of many tribes, including the Inuit
and others, and so they didn't like. But I mean,
at some level, we just need a term to refer
to all the people up in Alaska, who are you know,
the the ice in dwelling inhabitants. By the way, is
that even you know, I don't think it was.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Is another good example that I don't think would be offensive. Right,
We got to stop with the constant rename. I brought
back redskins for the Washington football team. I think it's
a way better name than Commanders, And so I would
encourage all of you stop worrying about what word choice
you're making. By and large, there are some exceptions, but
(03:51):
by and large, let's let's just normalize normal conversation. You know,
It's like when a kid hears their parents say word right,
They'll say, I mean, i've heard this. Obviously you don't
have kids yet working on it, but they'll say, well,
daddy said, you know the bad word, and then they
want to say it too, right. I feel like it's
a little bit of that with Trump, where when Trump
(04:11):
calls Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas, now it's you know, now it's
open season. Now anybody can say Pocahontas whatever they want.
I also think, and this is a little bit of
a side statement here, but I was reading there's a
big article about Golf of America and Google is now saying, hey,
we're going to change the name or Google to Golf
of America. And you're hearing Mount McKinley is going to
(04:35):
be changed instead of Mountain Allie the left really understood
there was power in renaming and returning or naming things
in a fashion that Trump wants to do. They suddenly
have never had to play defense because they've only gotten
to change things.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
They've never had things changed back. And now you're hearing
them say I don't know why the name even matters.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
It's like, actually, you've spent generations telling us that we
have to change names to avoid offending people. So I
do think the pushback is real. Now there is a
new Captain America. I have forgotten his name, but I
know he used to play Hawk. I think in the
(05:20):
superhero movies. Do you watch the Superhero movies?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Buck like? Have you like? Have you seen Exfinity War
Avengers in game all this stuff?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Or no?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
I keep my opinions, and producer Mark knows. I keep
my opinions about the Avengers movies to myself because no
good can come of it. So you hate him, and
I'm the pros. I grew up reading comic books. I'm
a pro comic book guy. I love some of the
early superhero movies. And you know, I think the original
(05:51):
Superman movies are great for what they are. I just
I plead the fifth on the Avengers because people get
so mad at me, but I just think, come on,
they're really good, so they should get mad at you
because that's an awful There you go, Clay's going Clay
is not afraid to support the multi billion dollar global franchise.
That's good to know.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah right, I like the little guy. So there is
a new Captain America. There is a new Captain America
and he is going out and he is doing promos
for Captain America. Let me just tell you this buck,
in case our audience doesn't know. The origination story.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Of Captain America was that he was an American super
soldier created during World War Two to be able to
fight Nazis. One of his origin comic books shows him
punching Adolph Hitler in the face to stand up for America.
So if you were going to come up with a
(06:50):
fictional hero who was more opposed to, for instance, Nazism,
you could not find someone. This is the origination story
of Captain America, superhero to fight in World War two
to beat Nazis. He wants to punch Adolf Hitler knock
him out. That is the origin's origin story. There has
been one Captain America. Now there's a new Captain America
(07:13):
by the way, black guy. Good for him whatever he
gets the opportunity to play Captain America, replacing one of
those Chris guys. I know, I can't remember which one
it is.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
But so he is now in Rome and he is
out there and is breaking down what Captain America represents.
And he's asked, how much does America matter for Captain America.
You would think quite a lot because it's in the name.
Here's what he had to.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Say for me, Captain America represents a lot of different things,
and I don't think the term, you know, America should
be one of those representations, Like it's about a man
who keeps his word, who has honored dignity and integrity,
of someone who is trustworthy and dependable.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
So I mean buck, So America doesn't mean any of
the things that he just said, even though the person's
name is Captain America.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
You know, I I think, I think what he was
trying to do it was a very He's already come out,
by the way and said like, no, I misspoke or whatever.
Should I give the most charitable interpretation of this for
a second, And then you can tell me, you can
you can you know, tell me, so you're gonna take
By the way, this is Anthony Mackie. I was wrong.
(08:32):
I said he played Hawk. He played Falcon. I think
Hawk is a character in the Cobra Kai. Anyway, that's
the background of this guy. He's been in the Uh.
They're both raptors, both birds of prey. So it's understandable
how one could make that, make that mix up. I
think what he was probably going for here is, oh,
I'll sound smart and worldly and help my movie if
(08:56):
because these Marvel movies, one of the reasons they do
so well, it's not because of the great script writing,
is because they can be easily dubbed all over the world. Right,
the global market for Marvel movies is very big, so
it's the international ticket sales matters. So he might have
been trying to say that these are you know, these
(09:16):
are universal values that Captain America represents of you know,
bravery or something like that. But the way he said
it was really was really sounded really dumb and sounded
because I don't I mean, is this guy was he
trying to be woke? I didn't get the sense the
snow white thing she's like I'm a boss girl or whatever.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Like yeah, like snow White, he's not gonna get saved
by Prince Charming.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Like I I think the Captain America guy said something
dumb when he was trying to say something that was
less dumb than what he said. Not super woke, but
not you know, you see what I'm saying. I think
you're being charitable here is that too charitable? That might
be I think I'm about I think I'm about to
get chewed up by the way by well. First of all,
(10:00):
Anthony Mackie should thank you because you are being very strong.
But he's not gonna come on. But we will alli
reach out to Big Disney, Big Marvel and Anthony Mackie.
We will offer him an opportunity to come on and
echo what Buck just said and actually say America is awesome.
I love it. Here's what I think was going on, Buck.
I think he was taking a shot. When you say
(10:23):
all those things to me, it's not about America, and
then you lay out all these incredible answers. I think
he's trying to distance for a global audience the American
aspect of Captain America. I think that was intentional by him,
and I also think this is the woke Hollywood thing,
which is America is not a good not a good
(10:44):
thing to stand for. Then maybe don't take the role
of Captain America would be an easy way to think
about it. So let me let me just say, I
didn't see this, but this just got This just got
sent to me. This is actually up on Fox. He
put this. Actor Anthony Mackie said this out on Instagram.
Let me be clear about this. I'm a proud American
(11:05):
and taking on the shield of a hero like CAP
is the honor of a lifetime. I have the utmost
respect for those who serve and have served our country.
CAP has universal characteristics that people all over the world
can relate to. I he's definitely I didn't know about it.
He's definitely now the sort of position at the way
that I'm.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
A pr response because they're like you, moron, you stepped
into a role that everybody loved and Buck, all you
had to say was what is the America part of
Captain America stand for Captain America was created to beat
the Nazis. He's on the cover of a comic book
knocking off Adolph Hitler. He stands for American exceptionalism and
America being awesome. America is not perfect, but he's a
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representation of the good side of America. And this is
on the top of my head, that.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Was pretty good. We got to get club shield and
some hg. We gotta put Clay on some trend for
a while. It'll be captain America. So I would say
the part the reason for the misspeak or the bat
was a dumb he Look, he clearly was a dumb
thing to say, and that's why he's put out this statement,
(12:11):
the second statement, right, But the reason he said it,
as I think that so many people are they think
that it is the good guy thing to believe is
that all countries are inherently equally good. And that's the fallacy.
That's the problem with this, that all nations as they
(12:32):
exist are you know, And you can just start with
a very basic premise, is America a better, more virtuous
country than North Korea? Just started, you know, the top,
and go to the bottom the answers on equivocally. Yes,
countries are not all the same, not all this not
all countries and bad is America more free than China? Right?
We could do this all day, we could go point
(12:53):
being America is actually exceptional, which is the word that
you used, and Captain America as a beacon of exceptionalism
is something that sure some countries, you know, Canada can
be like, yeah, I mean that's kind of our guy too. Hey,
Like you know, they can love Captain America as well.
But there's something aspirational about Captain America because America itself
(13:15):
is aspirational. So how can he not say that?
Speaker 1 (13:20):
I mean right, I mean there's an entire PR team
that is surrounding him, and all he has.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
To say is basically, hey, your message is America's awesome
and this guy represents the innate goodness of America. That's
all he's coming to. That's what he's come out to
say now, and it certainly is not the case that
he's like, well, like criticism of me is Captain America
is racist or something, Well, ten years ago that's probably coming.
Well then then we'll have to talk about that. But
(13:49):
ten years ago, five years ago, maybe even five months ago,
that would have been much more I think the PR
strategy to handle something like this. Instead, he's like, no, no,
I love Americamerica. God bless the troops like he's you know,
this is a different a different moment. I'm just putting
that out.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I just I can't believe how moronic these people are.
I also enjoy thinking about the equally moronic pr people
who are like, oh, like, all he has to say
is America is awesome, Like your freaking Captain America.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
What is the part? What is the name America?
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Mean?
Speaker 1 (14:23):
For Captain America, you wear tights that look like the
American flag? I mean, this is not reinventing the wheel here,
and he couldn't do it, which just proves one a
lot of these people, I think, do hate America.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Two. So many actors are complete morons. I mean just
I mean just imbecile. We have moved away from actors
increasingly being listened to about anything outside of acting, and
also having far too much cultural and economic power in
an oar com, which is a good thing. By the way, actors.
Actors used to be considered kind of for a long
(14:57):
time in Western societies, you know, a little sketchy. I'm
just saying it. Actors were super yea, it was not
a aspirational job. Yeah, so actors anyway, I'm just throwing
that out there.
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your podcasts. Welcome back into Clay and Buck. So we're
just talking about Captain America situation and all of the
things that Trump I'm sorry, all the things that Trump
is doing. We started off the show with that one.
Just something here that you know that came up Clay
(16:46):
in the RFK Junior hearings, or i should say in
advance of the hearings, is his own his own blood
Caroline Kennedy coming out andiously attacking RFK Junior. Who is
what her cousin? Right? So here it is. This is
(17:08):
cut thirteen, one of the Kennedys going after another Kennedy.
Listen to this.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
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It's no surprise that he keeps birds of prey as
pets because Bobby himself is a predator. I watch his
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drug addiction. His basement, his garage, his dorm room were
always the center of the action where drugs were available
(17:33):
and he enjoyed showing off how he put baby chickens
and mice in a blender to feed to his hawks.
It was often a perverse scene of despair and violence.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
My god, it's basically accusing me of animal abuse. Also
just a predator abuse. I mean, we got to talk
about this. There's a level I think of just being
a family member where you don't do this kind of stuff.
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My name Clay, do it Today. Welcome back in Clay,
Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out
with us. RFK Junior current in the midst of his
confirmation hearings, senators going after him like crazy betting markets
eighty four percent chance that OURFK Junior is going to
(19:12):
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out there. Right now. We were just talking about the
(19:32):
pretty savage commentary from Caroline Kennedy associated with RFK Junior,
and for him to be attacked like this inside of
the Kennedy family is not new because basically as soon
as he started running for president, even as a Democrat,
they came after him aggressively. Buck. This is continued.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Caroline Kennedy has been the most vociferous in her attacks,
but so far, as has been the case with all
of the hearings so far, I think Trump's nominees have
done a really good job at handling and parrying the attacks,
and because most of them are very effective and skilled
communicators when they have been able to speak, the Democrats
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have come off, particularly the Elizabeth Warren esque Democrats, as
really unhinged. And I do think this is a good
lesson in general. When someone screams at you and you
don't scream back, it actually makes no matter what their
argument is, it actually makes the attacker look worse to
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most reasonable people, because we are, I think, as humans
generally of the opinion that screaming at someone is not
a way that you have strengthened your overall argument. Now
this is not to say buck as a married man,
which I'm sure you have heard relatively recently in your
(21:03):
married life. The number one go to move of women
everywhere anytime there is an argument.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
What is it? What have you learned? Tone policing? Yeah,
women are really good. I don't like your tone? Number
one go to? Do men really ever get to play that?
I don't like your tone angle. I feel like women
have just totally co opted that line of attack in
all arguments. Men never really get to play the tone.
(21:30):
Women are really good at the tone argument. But I
know because also, if you put your hands on your
hips and you cock your head to the side and
say I don't like your tone like that, you automatically
win the argument, apparently. But I think it's tough for
guys to do the hands on the hips routine and
be taken seriously. I'm curious, are there any men out
there that have won successfully by telling their wives that
(21:52):
they don't like their tone or girlfriend? I will say,
you can reach out to us. I would love to
hear about your victor do if somebody told you clay theoretically, theoretically,
you know you're yelling, and you're like, but I'm not.
How do you deal with that one? First of all,
I've heard that this is a common, common deployed argument
(22:14):
to I've heard too friends, sources, sources have told me
before this, don't raise your voice when you're talking like this.
I'm like, that's just how I talk. I do a
radio show.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Well, you and I, I think are somewhat disadvantaged because
we do have booming, booming voices. My oldest son, my
oldest son, also has a voice like me and the
other my wife has complained about, like I'm on the
phone and you can hear me throughout the whole house,
and I just think that I'm talking normally, like voice
does tend to carry.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I don't whisper well.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
So I do think there's some element of success in
probably going after us for tone and also loudness, because
we do we are kind of loud. But I would
love to hear from men who have successfully flipped the script.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I've never done it. Maybe somebody has pulled it off.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Maybe you're like the uh, I don't know, the hell Mary,
the Doug Flutie of tone arguments, like you've somehow hit
a hell Mary go in the opposite direction.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I don't know. Now.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
The reason I bring this all up is I do
think when you look at the way that you handle yourself,
if you just say calm and measured while someone else
is screaming at you, even if they otherwise have some
legitimate arguments to make, a lot of people don't go
into the particulars of the argument. They just analyze the
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body language and also just the body chemistry of those interactions.
And I think they have overwhelmingly favored the nominees in
terms of how they've handled it.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yes, and you know what works really well? I find
when you're arguing with a female who is your girlfriend, wife,
any of the above, just tell her really definitively calmed down, Yeah,
calmed down, calm down, calmed down widerfully if anyone has
successfully flipped the tone into a calm down argument, when
(23:59):
then and that goes, that goes really well, let's have
some fun here. By the way, Joy Bahar, who I have, Buck,
tell me if you agree with this on my power
rankings of stupidity on the View number one with a
bullet and like, there's nobody even close to her now,
Sonny Hostin by far the dumbest person on the View,
(24:21):
and I mean, I don't even think there's a close second.
To be fair, Wait wait you you think you think
that Joy Behar would beat Sonny Houston in like a
general knowledge or IQ test. I think that she would
beat her in a reasonableness test, which is really like
my my measure. I'm not saying Joy Bahar is a
better speller than Sonny Hostin, or that she knows more
(24:43):
state capitals. By the way, I humiliated myself yesterday, Buck,
I didn't know what the capital of Missouri was.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Do you know what the capital of Missouri is? Without
looking it up. Don't look down at your and you
not you could see you could see my fingers. I
got put on the spot over this because my four
fourth grader we were talking about it.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Do you know the capital of Missouri? I mean, I'm
just gonna go with good old Saint Louis. I could
be wrong, not a bad guess.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
I said, Columbia, Missouri, which is where the University of
Missouri is. I thought that was the capital. Does anybody
in studio, without looking it up, Ali producers, anybody else
know the capital of Missouri. This is like a fourth
or fifth grade staple of knowledge. I was out to lunch,
and I wouldn't have gotten a book you could have
given me. Like a lot of guesses it is. Does
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the team know Springfield is the guest? That's Illinois? That's close,
Look it is Jefferson City. Oh no, would you have
ever gotten to you? I mean, I'm smoked on that.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
I wouldn't have gotten that since I had to memorize
them in the fifth grade or whatever. Yeah, I apologize
that apology. I'm gonna tell you right now. I think
I could nail like you know, Montana, Helena, like New
York obviously all of But like I go through all
these days, i'd i'd be pretty good, you know, I'd
even get some of the some of the funky ones.
What about in Kentucky capital of Kentucky, man Clay, This
(26:08):
is rutal.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
There are some that I know this because it's a
border state with mine. So what so was Missouri? I
should have gotten that, But I I knew this back
in the day. Do you know the capital of Kentucky?
Speaker 2 (26:19):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
It should be sorry to apologize to Kentucky. Nice win,
you swamped my Tennessee volunteers yesterday. It should be Louisville
or Lexington, both very fine cities. In fact, Lexington's fabulous,
buck Frankfurt Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Like did you even know? Like? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Again, So I'm not sure who would win a state
capitol battle between sunny Houston and between joy Bahar.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I'm not gonna throw any stones on that right now.
I gotta tell you a state capitals in a very
time I had either I got lit up for saying
the capital of Missouri was Columbia. I just I I
totally thought I know the cap South Carolina's Columbia. I
thought both of them were Columbia's I totally with there.
I understand if you can't trust us anymore. Here is
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Joy Behar, who may be better at state capitals than us,
but is almost certainly dumber in many other respects, saying
Caroline Levitt, new White House Press secretary, only got her
job because she's good looking.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
Listen, She's probably been put in there because, according to
Donald Trump, she's a ten.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
You know that. I mean, that is pretty. That's a
pretty nasty attack the day after you do your job.
On the one hand, it's a compliment. She's pretty, she's
good looking. Buck, You know this. You dated in New
York for a long time. There are a lot of
very pretty morons, and just being attractive, you get. I
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can't confirm without going into any any detail beyond that. Yes,
but I can also tell you, first of all, the
irony of being on a TV set where there are
women whose appearance is in some case definitely a huge
factor in why they massive job, massive job at reason
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they have that job, correct, you know, and especially the
younger ones at that table, it is it is disproportionately
their looks that have gotten them there in the first place.
If Sonny hostin Buck had the exact same talent, I'm
gonna put myself. I won't. I won't throw you under
the bus here. I'll just say it. If Sonny Hostin
weighed two hundred and fifty pounds on the view and
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had every other characteristic the exact same about herself, she
would have no media career at all. She would not
make a single dollar in media if she weighed two
hundred and fifty pounds and had every other exact same characteristic.
My point, when you're on television, cosmetics is a part
of it. But the day after Caroline Levitt dominates the media,
(28:51):
for Joy Bayhart to say, oh, the only reason she
has her job is because Donald Trump thinks she's good
looking is super insulting. Well, she's also really good. She's
also obviously very good at her job and very adept
at what she's doing. So it's just clearly not true.
You know, Fox News, for example, has had a long
string of women who have been on air who are
(29:12):
very just very good looking and very capable. Right, these
two things go together. We're in a competitive world, and
the TV world is particularly competitive, and having those two
characteristics is pretty much a requisite for being a TV anchor.
You've got two radio guys here. I'm just telling them.
I'm just gonna say.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
I don't want to brag on us too much. We're
actually good looking for radio guys.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Now.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
The standard to be fair for radio guys is very low.
I told Buck this. He's been in a couple of
press boxes.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Sports writers are some of the ugliest, fattest, least attractive
people on the planet. You walk through a.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Press box like the super Bowl press box when it's
going to be being played next weekend.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
It looks like the bar scene in Star Wars.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
There's a lot lot of freaking ugly dudes in there,
a lot of fat people, a lot of guys who
look like they haven't, you know, walked a mile in
ten years. The standard for media jobs is not necessarily
always super attractive.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Radio guys.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
You walk through radio row where I'll be next week,
there are a lot a lot of guys who have
not been out in the sun in twenty five years.
It's interesting because they talk about sports, but most of
them could not actually jog a mile. That is the
general reality. But Caroline Levitt dominated yesterday. She ran for Congress,
(30:38):
and almost one in New Hampshire having to go into
all those different town halls everything else. It's a sign
of how successful she was that after day one, the
attack is, oh, she's only there because she's good looking. Well,
and they would if she were a Democrat, they would say,
isn't she so amazing? And she'd be on the cover
of Vogue in a couple of months. I mean, so
we all know that this is just it's just bitterness
(30:59):
of coming from political political disagreement. But I also am
excited to see the shakeups that will be coming to
that White House press room. You might be seeing some
of you out there, a couple of your favorite radio
hosts at some point making an appearance there, you know,
just to sort of shake things up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
That would be fun.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Have you been in the White House Press briefing room
ever for a briefing at all?
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Not for a briefing, tho me. I've only I've walked
to see it.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
It's actually a very small room, as many television rooms
appear bigger on television.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
There's not a lot of space in there. But I've
never actually watched a press briefing. I think that would
be fun. Yeah, I mean, fun might be over. Oh fuck,
I would do one doing if you told me right now,
I could do any job for one day. I think
being White House Press Secretary and getting to field every
(31:50):
question and answer to that would be awesome. Yeah, that
would be fun. I just mean being one of the
you know, eighty people screaming to try to get people
there like me, me, me, me me, I want to
ask you a question. I don't like that press conferences
in general. I've been in a lot of them for sports.
And if you think the White House press briefing is bad,
imagine the people had half the IQ. That's what a
(32:13):
sports press briefing is.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Like.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
I always thought it was weird. Also, whenever I have
been I spent a fair amount of time on Capitol Hill,
and you the the gaggle that will follow around some
center or something as they're walking. When you're actually there,
you're like, it's like it's like kids chasing the teacher,
Like can I get extra credit? Like it's not very weird.
It's a very it's kind of undignified when you're there.
I'm just telling you the truth. It's not cool. So
(32:37):
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Speaker 2 (33:47):
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. We'll bring
you the latest from the hearings today with RFKUM. And
you know that's sorry. I just saw we're get We're
getting Clay. You gotta stop saying we're good looking for
radio guys. People are testing out this theory. They're like,
I don't know, there's a little bit. Let me just
put it out there this way. Who is infinitely better
(34:09):
looking than us? Like you put us side beside and
there's no doubt that is on radio. Now, some TV
guys are on radio. That's cheating I'm talking about they
are radio guys. It's not very many good looking radio guys. Again,
I'm not saying we're great looking. I'm saying, by the
standard of radio guy, we're good looking for radio guys. Oh,
(34:33):
fair enough. Well, ceci uh, this is from Toledo. A
listener there is throwing some shade at us in Toledo, Ohio.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
Play it clearly the good look part of this must
be why you two are on the radio of the show.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
First of all, it's a dude who like his like
he decided as a dude that he needed to weigh on. Wait,
you know whether we're good looking or not for radio guys,
Like when it was Cec and Toledo, I thought we
were gonna get lit up by a chick, not a
dude who's like you guys aren't good looking enough? Well, no,
that was just that was just the code for the
UH to call it on the call. His name isn't
he didn't get he didn't give us a name. I mean, look,
(35:09):
we're no Bill Malugin's over here. Let's we just say that.
But I'm clearly not even trying to argue that if
Malujin had a radio show, he would be off the
charts hot for radio guy. Clay would insist that the
Lugion do it without a shirt on sometimes on the radio.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Oh he should allusion should do the whole show and
a bathing suit. I think you should report from the
border in a bathing suit.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Good guy, after you realize what the AI is going
to look like. Now for the next twenty four hours,
play do you realize what you have done?
Speaker 1 (35:37):
But you never know when Ballugin might need to strip
down and go save somebody in the rio. Grand he
should be in a bathing suit at all times, shirtless
and a bathing sit Do you remember, by the way,
when they put our friends Will Caine and Pete Hegseth,
they did like because they're super macho, like badass guys.
Like they swam from like the Statue of Liberty back
to back to the Manhattan. Yeah, and they did a
(36:00):
whole They did their whole morning show shirtless with microphones,
and I just remember all the memes and everything else.
And then hag Seth when he got nominated for Defense
secretary a lot of the stuff. People were attacking him.
They're like, why do we need somebody this disrespectful? And
then a lot of women were like, I mean, this
is the best looking Secretary of Defense of all time.
(36:21):
So anyway, never know when Bellugion might need to save someone.
I don't think it's a bad move to have a
bathing suit be ready.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
I think he'd.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Probably be a great lifeguard too, really good look in
radio guy, great savior in the in the water.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
I'm gonna get us back on track here with the
RFK hearings in a moment, and we are not going
to talk about rfk's abs play off the table. RFK shirtless,
good looking guy, better looking than us Shirtlet's I'll tell
you that sleeve. Travis
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us as we are rolling
through the Wednesday edition of the program, giving you a
little bit of a idea of what's going on right now.
RFK Junior testifying confirmation hearing in front of the Senate
as he seeks to become the HHS secretary, lined up
(00:24):
to begin soon, Talsey Gabbard, Cash Pateel in earnest the
Trump cabinet being filled out. I still think Buck, we
need to play some of the Caroline Kennedy commentary because
it is nasty just.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
From a pure family relations perspective. I'm kind of staggered
by that, and we'll hit that with you at some point. Also,
our friend Senator Ran Paul, who.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Is involved in many of these confirmation hearings going forward
in the Senate, will swing by in the third hour
of the program and tell us what he sees and
expects going forward. And we just broke down the federal
employee potential buyout. We still need to talk about the
banning of trans surgeries for under eighteens, which Trump has
(01:11):
tried to enforce with executive order. We will discuss that
because it is a major cultural flashpoint. But speaking of flashpoints,
but because we went to break, we were talking about
all of the idiocy in Hollywood, and we started off
this week with Selena Gomez crying on camera because Trump
is deporting criminal, illegal aliens from the country and how
(01:36):
out of touch with reality she was. And we've talked
about Woke snow White, Rachel Zegler I believe was her name,
and the fact that she's been so publicly outspoken that
basically Disney has decided that they don't need to even
release this Woke snow White remake live action that they
were trying to do. Also, a lot of you weighed
(01:56):
in with Peter dinkliche commentary. Peter Dinkledge actually was upset
about the Seven Dwarfs being used in the movie. I
don't even know what that guy's talking about, but the
result ended up being that there were gonna be grown
people playing the Seven Dwarfs, which was perfectly absurd because
it took away from little people, midgets, whatever you want
(02:18):
to call them, the opportunity to be stars in those
movies other than the one role on Game of Thrones
and an occasional role here and there the Wizard of
Oz and the snow White probably the greatest.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I guess maybe the Charlie and the chocolate factory. That's
like the best possible opportunity if you're a midget actor, right,
I mean, are there other huge opportunities out there? I
think little person is the preferred nomenclature, I understand. I
think we got to push back against changing words, Like
I've seen some momentum of the uncancellation of words out
(02:56):
there that actually is making me cautiously optimistic, and so
I'm going to bring back midget. I don't think it's
offensive Eskimo.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I think we should be able to say, like, there
are certain words that I don't think are remotely offensive.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
My understanding with Eskimo is the problem with Eskimo is
that that was one of many tribes, including the Inuit
and others, and so they didn't like. But I mean,
at some level, we just need a term to refer
to all the people up in Alaska, who are you know,
the the ice in dwelling inhabitants. By the way, is
that even you know, I don't think it was.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Is another good example that I don't think would be offensive. Right,
We got to stop with the constant rename. I brought
back redskins for the Washington football team. I think it's
a way better name than Commanders, And so I would
encourage all of you stop worrying about what word choice
you're making. By and large, there are some exceptions, but
(03:51):
by and large, let's let's just normalize normal conversation. You know,
It's like when a kid hears their parents say word right,
They'll say, I mean, i've heard this. Obviously you don't
have kids yet working on it, but they'll say, well,
daddy said, you know the bad word, and then they
want to say it too, right. I feel like it's
a little bit of that with Trump, where when Trump
(04:11):
calls Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas, now it's you know, now it's
open season. Now anybody can say Pocahontas whatever they want.
I also think, and this is a little bit of
a side statement here, but I was reading there's a
big article about Golf of America and Google is now saying, hey,
we're going to change the name or Google to Golf
of America. And you're hearing Mount McKinley is going to
(04:35):
be changed instead of Mountain Allie the left really understood
there was power in renaming and returning or naming things
in a fashion that Trump wants to do. They suddenly
have never had to play defense because they've only gotten
to change things.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
They've never had things changed back. And now you're hearing
them say I don't know why the name even matters.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
It's like, actually, you've spent generations telling us that we
have to change names to avoid offending people. So I
do think the pushback is real. Now there is a
new Captain America. I have forgotten his name, but I
know he used to play Hawk. I think in the
(05:20):
superhero movies. Do you watch the Superhero movies?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Buck like? Have you like? Have you seen Exfinity War
Avengers in game all this stuff?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Or no?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
I keep my opinions, and producer Mark knows. I keep
my opinions about the Avengers movies to myself because no
good can come of it. So you hate him, and
I'm the pros. I grew up reading comic books. I'm
a pro comic book guy. I love some of the
early superhero movies. And you know, I think the original
(05:51):
Superman movies are great for what they are. I just
I plead the fifth on the Avengers because people get
so mad at me, but I just think, come on,
they're really good, so they should get mad at you
because that's an awful There you go, Clay's going Clay
is not afraid to support the multi billion dollar global franchise.
That's good to know.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah right, I like the little guy. So there is
a new Captain America. There is a new Captain America
and he is going out and he is doing promos
for Captain America. Let me just tell you this buck,
in case our audience doesn't know. The origination story.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Of Captain America was that he was an American super
soldier created during World War Two to be able to
fight Nazis. One of his origin comic books shows him
punching Adolph Hitler in the face to stand up for America.
So if you were going to come up with a
(06:50):
fictional hero who was more opposed to, for instance, Nazism,
you could not find someone. This is the origination story
of Captain America, superhero to fight in World War two
to beat Nazis. He wants to punch Adolf Hitler knock
him out. That is the origin's origin story. There has
been one Captain America. Now there's a new Captain America
(07:13):
by the way, black guy. Good for him whatever he
gets the opportunity to play Captain America, replacing one of
those Chris guys. I know, I can't remember which one
it is.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
But so he is now in Rome and he is
out there and is breaking down what Captain America represents.
And he's asked, how much does America matter for Captain America.
You would think quite a lot because it's in the name.
Here's what he had to.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Say for me, Captain America represents a lot of different things,
and I don't think the term, you know, America should
be one of those representations, Like it's about a man
who keeps his word, who has honored dignity and integrity,
of someone who is trustworthy and dependable.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
So I mean buck, So America doesn't mean any of
the things that he just said, even though the person's
name is Captain America.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
You know, I I think, I think what he was
trying to do it was a very He's already come out,
by the way and said like, no, I misspoke or whatever.
Should I give the most charitable interpretation of this for
a second, And then you can tell me, you can
you can you know, tell me, so you're gonna take
By the way, this is Anthony Mackie. I was wrong.
(08:32):
I said he played Hawk. He played Falcon. I think
Hawk is a character in the Cobra Kai. Anyway, that's
the background of this guy. He's been in the Uh.
They're both raptors, both birds of prey. So it's understandable
how one could make that, make that mix up. I
think what he was probably going for here is, oh,
I'll sound smart and worldly and help my movie if
(08:56):
because these Marvel movies, one of the reasons they do
so well, it's not because of the great script writing,
is because they can be easily dubbed all over the world. Right,
the global market for Marvel movies is very big, so
it's the international ticket sales matters. So he might have
been trying to say that these are you know, these
(09:16):
are universal values that Captain America represents of you know,
bravery or something like that. But the way he said
it was really was really sounded really dumb and sounded
because I don't I mean, is this guy was he
trying to be woke? I didn't get the sense the
snow white thing she's like I'm a boss girl or whatever.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Like yeah, like snow White, he's not gonna get saved
by Prince Charming.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Like I I think the Captain America guy said something
dumb when he was trying to say something that was
less dumb than what he said. Not super woke, but
not you know, you see what I'm saying. I think
you're being charitable here is that too charitable? That might
be I think I'm about I think I'm about to
get chewed up by the way by well. First of all,
(10:00):
Anthony Mackie should thank you because you are being very strong.
But he's not gonna come on. But we will alli
reach out to Big Disney, Big Marvel and Anthony Mackie.
We will offer him an opportunity to come on and
echo what Buck just said and actually say America is awesome.
I love it. Here's what I think was going on, Buck.
I think he was taking a shot. When you say
(10:23):
all those things to me, it's not about America, and
then you lay out all these incredible answers. I think
he's trying to distance for a global audience the American
aspect of Captain America. I think that was intentional by him,
and I also think this is the woke Hollywood thing,
which is America is not a good not a good
(10:44):
thing to stand for. Then maybe don't take the role
of Captain America would be an easy way to think
about it. So let me let me just say, I
didn't see this, but this just got This just got
sent to me. This is actually up on Fox. He
put this. Actor Anthony Mackie said this out on Instagram.
Let me be clear about this. I'm a proud American
(11:05):
and taking on the shield of a hero like CAP
is the honor of a lifetime. I have the utmost
respect for those who serve and have served our country.
CAP has universal characteristics that people all over the world
can relate to. I he's definitely I didn't know about it.
He's definitely now the sort of position at the way
that I'm.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
A pr response because they're like you, moron, you stepped
into a role that everybody loved and Buck, all you
had to say was what is the America part of
Captain America stand for Captain America was created to beat
the Nazis. He's on the cover of a comic book
knocking off Adolph Hitler. He stands for American exceptionalism and
America being awesome. America is not perfect, but he's a
(11:47):
representation of the good side of America. And this is
on the top of my head, that.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Was pretty good. We got to get club shield and
some hg. We gotta put Clay on some trend for
a while. It'll be captain America. So I would say
the part the reason for the misspeak or the bat
was a dumb he Look, he clearly was a dumb
thing to say, and that's why he's put out this statement,
(12:11):
the second statement, right, But the reason he said it,
as I think that so many people are they think
that it is the good guy thing to believe is
that all countries are inherently equally good. And that's the fallacy.
That's the problem with this, that all nations as they
(12:32):
exist are you know, And you can just start with
a very basic premise, is America a better, more virtuous
country than North Korea? Just started, you know, the top,
and go to the bottom the answers on equivocally. Yes,
countries are not all the same, not all this not
all countries and bad is America more free than China? Right?
We could do this all day, we could go point
(12:53):
being America is actually exceptional, which is the word that
you used, and Captain America as a beacon of exceptionalism
is something that sure some countries, you know, Canada can
be like, yeah, I mean that's kind of our guy too. Hey,
Like you know, they can love Captain America as well.
But there's something aspirational about Captain America because America itself
(13:15):
is aspirational. So how can he not say that?
Speaker 1 (13:20):
I mean right, I mean there's an entire PR team
that is surrounding him, and all he has.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
To say is basically, hey, your message is America's awesome
and this guy represents the innate goodness of America. That's
all he's coming to. That's what he's come out to
say now, and it certainly is not the case that
he's like, well, like criticism of me is Captain America
is racist or something, Well, ten years ago that's probably coming.
Well then then we'll have to talk about that. But
(13:49):
ten years ago, five years ago, maybe even five months ago,
that would have been much more I think the PR
strategy to handle something like this. Instead, he's like, no, no,
I love Americamerica. God bless the troops like he's you know,
this is a different a different moment. I'm just putting
that out.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I just I can't believe how moronic these people are.
I also enjoy thinking about the equally moronic pr people
who are like, oh, like, all he has to say
is America is awesome, Like your freaking Captain America.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
What is the part? What is the name America?
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Mean?
Speaker 1 (14:23):
For Captain America, you wear tights that look like the
American flag? I mean, this is not reinventing the wheel here,
and he couldn't do it, which just proves one a
lot of these people, I think, do hate America.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Two. So many actors are complete morons. I mean just
I mean just imbecile. We have moved away from actors
increasingly being listened to about anything outside of acting, and
also having far too much cultural and economic power in
an oar com, which is a good thing. By the way, actors.
Actors used to be considered kind of for a long
(14:57):
time in Western societies, you know, a little sketchy. I'm
just saying it. Actors were super yea, it was not
a aspirational job. Yeah, so actors anyway, I'm just throwing
that out there.
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just talking about Captain America situation and all of the
things that Trump I'm sorry, all the things that Trump
is doing. We started off the show with that one.
Just something here that you know that came up Clay
(16:46):
in the RFK Junior hearings, or i should say in
advance of the hearings, is his own his own blood
Caroline Kennedy coming out andiously attacking RFK Junior. Who is
what her cousin? Right? So here it is. This is
(17:08):
cut thirteen, one of the Kennedys going after another Kennedy.
Listen to this.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
I've known Bobby my whole life. We grew up together.
It's no surprise that he keeps birds of prey as
pets because Bobby himself is a predator. I watch his
younger brothers and cousins follow him down the path of
drug addiction. His basement, his garage, his dorm room were
always the center of the action where drugs were available
(17:33):
and he enjoyed showing off how he put baby chickens
and mice in a blender to feed to his hawks.
It was often a perverse scene of despair and violence.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
My god, it's basically accusing me of animal abuse. Also
just a predator abuse. I mean, we got to talk
about this. There's a level I think of just being
a family member where you don't do this kind of stuff.
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My name Clay, do it Today. Welcome back in Clay,
Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out
with us. RFK Junior current in the midst of his
confirmation hearings, senators going after him like crazy betting markets
eighty four percent chance that OURFK Junior is going to
(19:12):
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(19:32):
pretty savage commentary from Caroline Kennedy associated with RFK Junior,
and for him to be attacked like this inside of
the Kennedy family is not new because basically as soon
as he started running for president, even as a Democrat,
they came after him aggressively. Buck. This is continued.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Caroline Kennedy has been the most vociferous in her attacks,
but so far, as has been the case with all
of the hearings so far, I think Trump's nominees have
done a really good job at handling and parrying the attacks,
and because most of them are very effective and skilled
communicators when they have been able to speak, the Democrats
(20:20):
have come off, particularly the Elizabeth Warren esque Democrats, as
really unhinged. And I do think this is a good
lesson in general. When someone screams at you and you
don't scream back, it actually makes no matter what their
argument is, it actually makes the attacker look worse to
(20:42):
most reasonable people, because we are, I think, as humans
generally of the opinion that screaming at someone is not
a way that you have strengthened your overall argument. Now
this is not to say buck as a married man,
which I'm sure you have heard relatively recently in your
(21:03):
married life. The number one go to move of women
everywhere anytime there is an argument.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
What is it? What have you learned? Tone policing? Yeah,
women are really good. I don't like your tone? Number
one go to? Do men really ever get to play that?
I don't like your tone angle. I feel like women
have just totally co opted that line of attack in
all arguments. Men never really get to play the tone.
(21:30):
Women are really good at the tone argument. But I
know because also, if you put your hands on your
hips and you cock your head to the side and
say I don't like your tone like that, you automatically
win the argument, apparently. But I think it's tough for
guys to do the hands on the hips routine and
be taken seriously. I'm curious, are there any men out
there that have won successfully by telling their wives that
(21:52):
they don't like their tone or girlfriend? I will say,
you can reach out to us. I would love to
hear about your victor do if somebody told you clay theoretically, theoretically,
you know you're yelling, and you're like, but I'm not.
How do you deal with that one? First of all,
I've heard that this is a common, common deployed argument
(22:14):
to I've heard too friends, sources, sources have told me
before this, don't raise your voice when you're talking like this.
I'm like, that's just how I talk. I do a
radio show.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Well, you and I, I think are somewhat disadvantaged because
we do have booming, booming voices. My oldest son, my
oldest son, also has a voice like me and the
other my wife has complained about, like I'm on the
phone and you can hear me throughout the whole house,
and I just think that I'm talking normally, like voice
does tend to carry.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
I don't whisper well.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
So I do think there's some element of success in
probably going after us for tone and also loudness, because
we do we are kind of loud. But I would
love to hear from men who have successfully flipped the script.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I've never done it. Maybe somebody has pulled it off.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Maybe you're like the uh, I don't know, the hell Mary,
the Doug Flutie of tone arguments, like you've somehow hit
a hell Mary go in the opposite direction.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I don't know. Now.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
The reason I bring this all up is I do
think when you look at the way that you handle yourself,
if you just say calm and measured while someone else
is screaming at you, even if they otherwise have some
legitimate arguments to make, a lot of people don't go
into the particulars of the argument. They just analyze the
(23:29):
body language and also just the body chemistry of those interactions.
And I think they have overwhelmingly favored the nominees in
terms of how they've handled it.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yes, and you know what works really well? I find
when you're arguing with a female who is your girlfriend, wife,
any of the above, just tell her really definitively calmed down, Yeah,
calmed down, calm down, calmed down widerfully if anyone has
successfully flipped the tone into a calm down argument, when
(23:59):
then and that goes, that goes really well, let's have
some fun here. By the way, Joy Bahar, who I have, Buck,
tell me if you agree with this on my power
rankings of stupidity on the View number one with a
bullet and like, there's nobody even close to her now,
Sonny Hostin by far the dumbest person on the View,
(24:21):
and I mean, I don't even think there's a close second.
To be fair, Wait wait you you think you think
that Joy Behar would beat Sonny Houston in like a
general knowledge or IQ test. I think that she would
beat her in a reasonableness test, which is really like
my my measure. I'm not saying Joy Bahar is a
better speller than Sonny Hostin, or that she knows more
(24:43):
state capitals. By the way, I humiliated myself yesterday, Buck,
I didn't know what the capital of Missouri was.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Do you know what the capital of Missouri is? Without
looking it up. Don't look down at your and you
not you could see you could see my fingers. I
got put on the spot over this because my four
fourth grader we were talking about it.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Do you know the capital of Missouri? I mean, I'm
just gonna go with good old Saint Louis. I could
be wrong, not a bad guess.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
I said, Columbia, Missouri, which is where the University of
Missouri is. I thought that was the capital. Does anybody
in studio, without looking it up, Ali producers, anybody else
know the capital of Missouri. This is like a fourth
or fifth grade staple of knowledge. I was out to lunch,
and I wouldn't have gotten a book you could have
given me. Like a lot of guesses it is. Does
(25:29):
the team know Springfield is the guest? That's Illinois? That's close,
Look it is Jefferson City. Oh no, would you have
ever gotten to you? I mean, I'm smoked on that.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
I wouldn't have gotten that since I had to memorize
them in the fifth grade or whatever. Yeah, I apologize
that apology. I'm gonna tell you right now. I think
I could nail like you know, Montana, Helena, like New
York obviously all of But like I go through all
these days, i'd i'd be pretty good, you know, I'd
even get some of the some of the funky ones.
What about in Kentucky capital of Kentucky, man Clay, This
(26:08):
is rutal.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
There are some that I know this because it's a
border state with mine. So what so was Missouri? I
should have gotten that, But I I knew this back
in the day. Do you know the capital of Kentucky?
Speaker 2 (26:19):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
It should be sorry to apologize to Kentucky. Nice win,
you swamped my Tennessee volunteers yesterday. It should be Louisville
or Lexington, both very fine cities. In fact, Lexington's fabulous,
buck Frankfurt Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Like did you even know? Like? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Again, So I'm not sure who would win a state
capitol battle between sunny Houston and between joy Bahar.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I'm not gonna throw any stones on that right now.
I gotta tell you a state capitals in a very
time I had either I got lit up for saying
the capital of Missouri was Columbia. I just I I
totally thought I know the cap South Carolina's Columbia. I
thought both of them were Columbia's I totally with there.
I understand if you can't trust us anymore. Here is
(27:07):
Joy Behar, who may be better at state capitals than us,
but is almost certainly dumber in many other respects, saying
Caroline Levitt, new White House Press secretary, only got her
job because she's good looking.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
Listen, She's probably been put in there because, according to
Donald Trump, she's a ten.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
You know that. I mean, that is pretty. That's a
pretty nasty attack the day after you do your job.
On the one hand, it's a compliment. She's pretty, she's
good looking. Buck, You know this. You dated in New
York for a long time. There are a lot of
very pretty morons, and just being attractive, you get. I
(27:45):
can't confirm without going into any any detail beyond that. Yes,
but I can also tell you, first of all, the
irony of being on a TV set where there are
women whose appearance is in some case definitely a huge
factor in why they massive job, massive job at reason
(28:06):
they have that job, correct, you know, and especially the
younger ones at that table, it is it is disproportionately
their looks that have gotten them there in the first place.
If Sonny hostin Buck had the exact same talent, I'm
gonna put myself. I won't. I won't throw you under
the bus here. I'll just say it. If Sonny Hostin
weighed two hundred and fifty pounds on the view and
(28:28):
had every other characteristic the exact same about herself, she
would have no media career at all. She would not
make a single dollar in media if she weighed two
hundred and fifty pounds and had every other exact same characteristic.
My point, when you're on television, cosmetics is a part
of it. But the day after Caroline Levitt dominates the media,
(28:51):
for Joy Bayhart to say, oh, the only reason she
has her job is because Donald Trump thinks she's good
looking is super insulting. Well, she's also really good. She's
also obviously very good at her job and very adept
at what she's doing. So it's just clearly not true.
You know, Fox News, for example, has had a long
string of women who have been on air who are
(29:12):
very just very good looking and very capable. Right, these
two things go together. We're in a competitive world, and
the TV world is particularly competitive, and having those two
characteristics is pretty much a requisite for being a TV anchor.
You've got two radio guys here. I'm just telling them.
I'm just gonna say.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
I don't want to brag on us too much. We're
actually good looking for radio guys.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Now.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
The standard to be fair for radio guys is very low.
I told Buck this. He's been in a couple of
press boxes.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Sports writers are some of the ugliest, fattest, least attractive
people on the planet. You walk through a.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
Press box like the super Bowl press box when it's
going to be being played next weekend.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
It looks like the bar scene in Star Wars.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
There's a lot lot of freaking ugly dudes in there,
a lot of fat people, a lot of guys who
look like they haven't, you know, walked a mile in
ten years. The standard for media jobs is not necessarily
always super attractive.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Radio guys.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
You walk through radio row where I'll be next week,
there are a lot a lot of guys who have
not been out in the sun in twenty five years.
It's interesting because they talk about sports, but most of
them could not actually jog a mile. That is the
general reality. But Caroline Levitt dominated yesterday. She ran for Congress,
(30:38):
and almost one in New Hampshire having to go into
all those different town halls everything else. It's a sign
of how successful she was that after day one, the
attack is, oh, she's only there because she's good looking. Well,
and they would if she were a Democrat, they would say,
isn't she so amazing? And she'd be on the cover
of Vogue in a couple of months. I mean, so
we all know that this is just it's just bitterness
(30:59):
of coming from political political disagreement. But I also am
excited to see the shakeups that will be coming to
that White House press room. You might be seeing some
of you out there, a couple of your favorite radio
hosts at some point making an appearance there, you know,
just to sort of shake things up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
That would be fun.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Have you been in the White House Press briefing room
ever for a briefing at all?
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Not for a briefing, tho me. I've only I've walked
to see it.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
It's actually a very small room, as many television rooms
appear bigger on television.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
There's not a lot of space in there. But I've
never actually watched a press briefing. I think that would
be fun. Yeah, I mean, fun might be over. Oh fuck,
I would do one doing if you told me right now,
I could do any job for one day. I think
being White House Press Secretary and getting to field every
(31:50):
question and answer to that would be awesome. Yeah, that
would be fun. I just mean being one of the
you know, eighty people screaming to try to get people
there like me, me, me, me me, I want to
ask you a question. I don't like that press conferences
in general. I've been in a lot of them for sports.
And if you think the White House press briefing is bad,
imagine the people had half the IQ. That's what a
(32:13):
sports press briefing is.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Like.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
I always thought it was weird. Also, whenever I have
been I spent a fair amount of time on Capitol Hill,
and you the the gaggle that will follow around some
center or something as they're walking. When you're actually there,
you're like, it's like it's like kids chasing the teacher,
Like can I get extra credit? Like it's not very weird.
It's a very it's kind of undignified when you're there.
I'm just telling you the truth. It's not cool. So
(32:37):
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Speaker 2 (33:47):
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. We'll bring
you the latest from the hearings today with RFKUM. And
you know that's sorry. I just saw we're get We're
getting Clay. You gotta stop saying we're good looking for
radio guys. People are testing out this theory. They're like,
I don't know, there's a little bit. Let me just
put it out there this way. Who is infinitely better
(34:09):
looking than us? Like you put us side beside and
there's no doubt that is on radio. Now, some TV
guys are on radio. That's cheating I'm talking about they
are radio guys. It's not very many good looking radio guys. Again,
I'm not saying we're great looking. I'm saying, by the
standard of radio guy, we're good looking for radio guys. Oh,
(34:33):
fair enough. Well, ceci uh, this is from Toledo. A
listener there is throwing some shade at us in Toledo, Ohio.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
Play it clearly the good look part of this must
be why you two are on the radio of the show.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
First of all, it's a dude who like his like
he decided as a dude that he needed to weigh on. Wait,
you know whether we're good looking or not for radio guys,
Like when it was Cec and Toledo, I thought we
were gonna get lit up by a chick, not a
dude who's like you guys aren't good looking enough? Well, no,
that was just that was just the code for the
UH to call it on the call. His name isn't
he didn't get he didn't give us a name. I mean, look,
(35:09):
we're no Bill Malugin's over here. Let's we just say that.
But I'm clearly not even trying to argue that if
Malujin had a radio show, he would be off the
charts hot for radio guy. Clay would insist that the
Lugion do it without a shirt on sometimes on the radio.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Oh he should allusion should do the whole show and
a bathing suit. I think you should report from the
border in a bathing suit.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Good guy, after you realize what the AI is going
to look like. Now for the next twenty four hours,
play do you realize what you have done?
Speaker 1 (35:37):
But you never know when Ballugin might need to strip
down and go save somebody in the rio. Grand he
should be in a bathing suit at all times, shirtless
and a bathing sit Do you remember, by the way,
when they put our friends Will Caine and Pete Hegseth,
they did like because they're super macho, like badass guys.
Like they swam from like the Statue of Liberty back
to back to the Manhattan. Yeah, and they did a
(36:00):
whole They did their whole morning show shirtless with microphones,
and I just remember all the memes and everything else.
And then hag Seth when he got nominated for Defense
secretary a lot of the stuff. People were attacking him.
They're like, why do we need somebody this disrespectful? And
then a lot of women were like, I mean, this
is the best looking Secretary of Defense of all time.
(36:21):
So anyway, never know when Bellugion might need to save someone.
I don't think it's a bad move to have a
bathing suit be ready.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
I think he'd.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Probably be a great lifeguard too, really good look in
radio guy, great savior in the in the water.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
I'm gonna get us back on track here with the
RFK hearings in a moment, and we are not going
to talk about rfk's abs play off the table. RFK shirtless,
good looking guy, better looking than us Shirtlet's I'll tell
you that sleeve. Travis
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