January 9, 2025 • 36 mins
President Jimmy Carter’s funeral. Body language speaks volumes. Michelle Obama skips. Does anyone still read USA Today? Biden said he would have won. The rage factor.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. We're rolling through the
Thursday edition of the program. I understand, by the way,
a lot of you getting snow that do not usually
get snow. The state of Texas not exactly renowned for
its ability to handle snow.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
All of you stay safe.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
You know the number one state for listenership of this
program state of Texas, which is we've been number one
in Houston, San Antonio, I think, Austin, I know, basically
all throughout the state. So we want you guys to
stay safe. But Buck, I was driving this morning and
(00:49):
the grocery store by my house looked like the apocalypse
had hit. I mean, when Southerners get snowfall, you're so
far south you're not gonna necessarily experience this because you're
down in Miami, not a place where now for its snowfall.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Clay, I'm doing this show in a sweatshirt because it's
sixty eight degrees outside right now.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
You guys are suffering in Miami. I actually noticed the
sweatshirt and now I was like, oh man, it must
be it must be below seventy in Miami.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Now the people where ski park is here. If there's
a fifty in it, there's a ski park involved. I
was telling you, fifty eight degrees, people look like they're
going out on the slopes.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I saw a woman walking a dog in my neighborhood
yesterday and it's like, I think it was forty degrees
or so yesterday afternoon sun shines out. She looked like
she was walking on the surface of the moon, like
she was basically in a spacesuit. So Southerners in cold
weather don't necessarily go together, even though we do get
a decent amount of cold weather in Nashville. It's gonna snow.
(01:51):
We want all of you to be safe. Now, a
couple of things that I want to hit. We're talking
about everything going on in LA. Will continue to monitor
the wildfires there. Also, they had a state funeral for
Jimmy Carter this morning and all of the former presidents
who are living were in attendance, and there was a
lot of different body language drama that was going on.
(02:14):
I will start with and it's gone megaviral. I don't
know what Trump said that made Barack Obama belly laugh,
but it was only a couple of months ago that
Barack Obama was saying that Trump was Hitler, and I
don't remember seeing very many clips of Hitler at public
events dropping jokes that had his top adversaries doubling over
(02:36):
in laughter.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I know all of you know.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
That this is ridiculous, but the fact that they tried
to tell us that Trump was Hitler as soon as
he wins the election, they show up at public events
and just joke and nash back and forth with each
other shows you how much of this is BS. But
there's also a video that's going viral of Michelle Obama
(02:58):
noticing Trump and Barack Obama, Sorry, of Kamala Harris noticing
Obama and Trump joking, and she gets frustrated and like
picks up the program and starts to look. It's very
body language specific, But I want to play a couple
of things. One Joe Biden and the Kamala husband and
(03:21):
wife duo. All of the public events, the interactions between
them are incredibly awkward. Here was Jake Tapper on CNN
acknowledging as the Bidens arrived to sit next to Kamala
and her husband, Doug. This was how he described the interaction.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Again, you didn't see a particularly one grading between the
first couple and the second couple. But again, we are
at a funeral, so one has to take that into
account when trying to read the body language of the
individuals there.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
When CNN even Jake Tapper is talking about the awkwardness
of the resident sitting down next to his vice president
and how their family interactions are to sign it's pretty frosty.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah. Also, you can be warm at a funeral, right,
I mean family coming together. And also, I mean this
is Jimmy Carter's not their family member, you know what
I'm saying, It's not even like.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
A I also think and again, yes, that's a great point.
Jimmy Carter was also one hundred. I mean, I understand
that funerals are sad, but if I were to live
to be one hundred, I would hope that people are
smiling and having a good time at my funeral.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
What did you want me to live to one hundred
and two? I mean, there are different celebrations I've been to,
you know. Unfortunately, Yes, I've been to funerals of well,
I've been a funerals of people who are, you know,
in their eighties, And it was like, what an incredible
life and the legacy and the grandkids. And I've been
to funerals of people in their twenties. Yeah, and that's
(04:54):
not a very different thing. Point being, Jimmy Carter is
a celebrated figure in this respect. He had a great,
long life. Whatever one thinks of Jimmy Carter as a president,
and there's no reason why they can't, meaning these other
former presidents or current in the case of Biden, they
can't all be nice to each other. It is the fact, though,
(05:16):
My biggest takeaway from this, other than I guess people
that they're sort of a pageantry to this, like they're
watching this, like what are we watching? Who cares about
the funeral of Jimmy Carter.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I had it on in the background because I wanted
to see what see. It's actually interesting. CNN covered the funeral.
Fox News covered the fires, which I thought was an
interesting decision.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Let's be honest, Clay, it's not the British royal family,
you know what I mean? You know, if we're to
go there, so you know, Clay Clay Clay is a
fan of the Royals. Anyway, I think that the fact
that Obama and Trump had at a funny moment is
just indicative of what we've seen all along, which is
(05:58):
the whole thing was a fraud, this whole that Trump
was Hitler and gonna splore the country, and I know
that they're just gonna it's it's a bit like how
insane they were during COVID, Like we didn't put people
in circles in the park and make sure they were
outside separate from each other with the big circles, like
they did all this insane stuff. That's why I was
watching Morning Joe every day, Morning Joe Clay. It was
(06:19):
it was like a limited time series for me because
they were so insane and lost their mind so uh
on command about Trump, and then we all realized that
the whole thing was a fraud. And this is a
big part of I think why the media never recovers
the whatever credibility they think they had beyond just speaking
to their own partisan interest. I think that's gone. I
(06:40):
don't think it ever comes back. You can't, you can't
shake this, right. I mean, Trump's not Hitler, but they
said he's Hitler every day.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yeah, and the the other thing associated with this, and
I do think it's it's it's significant, is I do
think we should call it out because if you truly
thought Trump was hitler, I don't even know how you
would respond to him at the state funeral, but you
certainly wouldn't be not you know, just joking it up
(07:09):
with him and laughing at the comments that he's making
on a regular basis. They all knew it was bs.
I want to ask you this. Michelle Obama didn't show up.
She's in Hawaii on family vacation. Barack Obama is there?
Correct me if I'm wrong. Team Laura Bush is there
with George Milanya is there with Trump. Doug dork that
(07:32):
he is, is there with Kamala, Jill is there with Joe.
I believe every other spouse Obama went solo. You hear
all the time in the media. Oh, Malanya doesn't actually
like Trump, right, Like that's a talking point on the left.
She doesn't go to his events. Where's Malania? Okay, she's
at the state funeral. You have access to private jets.
(07:55):
Shouldn't and let me play them saying that Michelle Obama
is not there? Is this and n guys, shouldn't Michelle
Obama be at the state funeral?
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Listen to this?
Speaker 5 (08:04):
It truly is extraordinary. The last time most of them
were in the sittingroom was in twenty eighteen at the funeral.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Of George H. W. Bush.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
President Trump was in office. Then one person missing, and
this is Michelle Obama. I'm told by her advisors that
she had a scheduling conflict. She's actually still in Hawaii
from an extended holiday vacation, so she's missing there.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
She's on vacation in Hawaii. By the way, Bill and
Hillary Clinton both there. Don't you have to get on
the plane and come to the funeral if your Michelle
Obama and your your husband was president for eight years?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
No, because being Michelle Obama means you don't have to
do anything that you don't want to do based on
what the expectations are. I just found I could get
away with whatever. That's the whole that's the whole point.
That's why she didn't want to run for president. By
the way, well do better.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Potentially, that potentially is true. I just think you owe
it to the country to take a half day off
of your Hawaiian vacation.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
And I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
I'm just saying she doesn't care like that's why you know,
he doesn't care what the country thinks about her going
or not going or whatever.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I mean, that's very clear. I also wonder did Barack
push on it? You're married?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Now, how does Barack handle this? Because I bet Barack Obama,
if you asked him, thinks that Michelle should be there.
But how hard does he press on this when he's like, hey, babe,
you know Jimmy Carter died, I'm a former president. Every
other wife is going to be there. I'm gonna go
to the funeral, but you can stay in Hawaii if
(09:37):
you want. And then she's like, yeah, I think I'll
stay in Hawaii. Does Obama go back with Matt maybe?
You know, we were president and first lady for eight years.
Even Milania is gonna be there, Hillary's gonna be there,
Jill's gonna be there. Does he push it all? This
is not President Obama, this is married man Obama. How
hard does he go on trying to get Michelle to come?
Speaker 5 (09:59):
All?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
All I know is that married married man Obama. Uh
needs to be very careful because no matter how compelling
his argument for Michelle going to the state funeral may be, better,
watch his tone. Got to watch out for the tone
even the president has to watch the tone, got to
watch the tone.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Tone.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Wait, I thought I was making compelling argument. I don't
like your tone. Now your toast, you know, now you're
in rough shape.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
So and the tone, by the way, I don't know
about you. Tone very often not a lot different than normal.
But as soon as your tone is is attacked, you're
in a difficult position. Women are very good at at
going after the tone. Here's the other thing women are
very good at.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I don't know if you notice this. They're very good
at telling you things without actually saying it. The number
of times I have gotten dressed to go to an
event and my wife has said.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
You're wearing that, Like not, you need to change. You're
wearing that? Yeah, this is this is.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
What I oh, I I don't you're really gonna wear that.
The number of times that women don't actually say what
they mean and men are supposed to translate what women
actually mean is high. I would just love to have
a transcript of Barack Obama, because not President Obama, it's
you know, twenty year married plus married Obama. When he
tries to tell Michelle that maybe she should leave Hawaii
(11:19):
and go to the state funeral because it will look
way better for the country. If she's willing to give
up one day of vacation in Hawaii, does she have
a job otherwise? Can she not go back to Hawaii
on the private jet right after? I mean, it doesn't
I understand if you're like, you know, you're in Ghana,
like mayor Karen Bass Here, it's a long trip, but
(11:40):
you're flying in a private jet. I fly at a
private Jet's not that awful. And then you can just
go right back to Hawaii and say there as long
as you want. So.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
I would love to know how hard he pushed on this.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I don't think he pushed hard. I don't think he
you know, I think that as long as he's there,
he feels like he's he's getting it done. And again,
I I don't know. I like the whole here's another
way to think about it. Two buck leave aside this.
If every other spouse was there and Milania wasn't, it
would be a major talking point about Milania.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Not being willing to come. What does it say about
her relationship with Trump? It would be a huge talking
point on MSNBC and CNN.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
I bet, I bet they don't even hardly mention Michelle
not being there.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yeah, I don't know if anyone cares necessarily. I mean,
I noticed.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I think it's I actually think it's disrespectful of her.
I think she should be there.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I care. I've actually disappointed in Michelle Obama not.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Doing drawing this line in the sand that that she
that she should have been there. Okay, I mean, yeah,
she should have been there, but she's.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Not, like I care about the cultural norms here, the
expectations being set the first lady. Everybody else sacks up
and manages to get there. I'm sure that Joe Biden
doesn't want to go to the fricking funeral. I'm sure
that Hillary Clinton doesn't want to be sitting a couple
of steps down from Joe from Trump. But they guarantee
(13:09):
you Milania didn't want to be there. But they're like, hey,
this is something that's appropriate for a politician to do.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Heck, how many people listening to us right now have
gone to funerals that they really had no interest in
going to but felt like it was the right thing
to do. That's the least Michelle Obama could do, and
she's making one hundred million dollars a year or whatever
the heck she is for stupid documentaries. The least she
could do is actually show up at the funeral. I'm sorry,
I'm actually disappointed and fired up about this.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
This may or may not come as a shock to you.
But what any of us think about Michelle Obama, I
don't think that is very much at all to Michelle Obama.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I think that's true.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
And by the way, I don't particularly care what people
think about me either, So I respect the fact that
Michelle Obama doesn't care what people think. But I think
I would have shown up at the if I were
a former president or first lady, if I could become
a woman, as Democrats consider the most heroic thing imaginable,
I would have put on my dress in my heels,
and I would have shown up.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I would have been a hero. Maybe I'm wrong. People
disagree with me on this. Eight hundred and two eight
two two eight eight two. Who's right here?
Speaker 3 (14:14):
I mean everyone, Okay, can we just get Everyone's gonna
say she absolutely should be there, and I agree. I'm
just saying, you know, I mean, come on, just be thankful,
just just be thankful she's not running for president.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Everybody.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Well, I'm very thankful because I think she might have
won because there's a lot of morons out there. She
would have definitely done better than Kamala did.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
We come back buck here in a little bit. Biden
did a sit down interview with USA Today. You want
to talk about the most useless media organization on the planet.
I think USA Today maybe at number one on my
list because now that they don't really give free newspapers
very often in hotels, does anyone actually subscribe to USA Today?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
And that's actually a good question.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Is there anyone listening to us right now that has
a subscription to USA Today? I mean, you actually pay
because you like it. Biden did an interview buck and
he bragged that if he had run, he would have won.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
This is delusional. We'll talk about it when we come back.
But Chalk.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
You know what, maybe if she had a little bit
more energy, Michelle Obama could have gotten on the airplane
and she could have flown away from her Hawaiian vacation
and shown up at Jimmy Carter's funeral.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
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I don't know if if went, oh, are we going
to talk about Biden saying that he thought he could win?
Is that where we're going.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
I'll read you. I'll read you the quotes when we
come back.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
And I'm still curious, does anyone like, how does USA
Today still exist? I don't know a single person who
subscribes to it, Like, does anybody actually subscribe?
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Didn't They used to say that they were the most
wide circulation newspaper in the country.
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But that's because they gave it away free everywhere.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Like if you stayed in a hotel room, you got
a USA Today back in the day right outside of
your door. I mean, they printed a ton of them.
I don't know that very many people bought it. I
don't even remember the last time I saw it as
a biable print product, and it's so dumb, like who
would subscribe to it? I just I don't know, is
does anyone listening to us? There are millions of you
(17:41):
currently subscribe to USA today.
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I just I would want to know.
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Speaker 1 (19:04):
With powering through the Thursday edition of the program, we've
been talking about the wildfires in California, the dastardly moved
by Michelle Obama not to be willing to show up
for Jimmy Carter's funeral, a slight I would probably never
forgive her for. But speaking of slights, Joe Biden Buck
told USA Today, which has a subscriber base, based on
(19:27):
our response on this show of zero, I mean, I
don't think anybody subscribes to the entire I don't know
how that newspaper still exists. Cannett in Trouble There they
had an interview with Joe Biden, and in that interview,
Biden said he believed he would have beaten Trump, among
other things. He also was rambling. I read the interview
(19:47):
the transcript of it.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
He said that Hunter Biden was being prosecuted for things
he did in the nineteen eighties. I mean, there are
some of these answers where you hear them and you're
just like, I mean, I'm sure Hunter did some things
in the night.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
I was gonna say, I'm sure there are things he
could be prosecuted for the nineteen eighties, but you know
who knows.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Statute of limitations tough in the eighties. Unless he was
numb and dead body somewhere, there's not a lot of
things you can get prosecuted for from back in the
eighties criminally, But Biden said he would have won. Harry Inton,
I always get these guys confused. I think he's see
an Ends guy. Then NBC has a guy too. It's
basically the same dude, and maybe it's like Superman. He
just takes off his sunglasses or whatever and goes back
(20:26):
and forth, and he's the same guy doing both jobs.
But he says that is a absolutely ridiculous claim. I'll play
that for you in a secure buck. But remember you
and I told everybody this was what was going to happen.
If Kamala had won, Biden would have said, I'm a hero.
I passed the baton. This is why I am a
modern day George Washington. As soon as Kamala loses, though,
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he's got the ability to come out and say, well,
I would have never lost. You shouldn't have forced me out.
Heads he wins, tails, you lose. He can't have a
narrative that doesn't end favorably for him. Based on what
happened in the twenty twenty four election. Here is CNN
Harry Inton saying, actually, you're crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
This is absolutely not the case. Listen.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
Joe Biden, in his exit interview with USA Today, claims
that he could have beaten Donald Trump had he stayed
in the race. Let's look at the entire twenty twenty
four campaign. Daves Biden led Trump in twenty twenty four.
When Biden was still in the race, get this, zero nada,
no days, no days. Was Biden ahead of Donald Trump. No,
of course we looked at one point in time. We'll
look at when Biden was still in the race. What
would have happened if Biden had stayed in the race.
(21:33):
Is there any record of candidate as unpopular as Joe
Biden winning? Look Biden's net approval rating on election day
minus nineteen points. Look at this zero six incumbents reelected
with a negative net approval rating. The bottom line is this,
Joe Biden was behind, he had always been behind, and
he most likely would have stayed behind. And that's why
I categorize his statement that he could have won the
twenty twenty four election is flat out bombers.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Flat out bonkers, even on CNN. And I don't know
what the when the full post mortem is going to
come out about all of the failures of Biden inside
of the White House. I'm surprised that more of them
haven't come out yet. I will say I think this
speaks to Biden having a pretty loyal cores that surrounded
him on a regular basis. There haven't been that many
(22:15):
leaks about his moments of mental collapse frankly and physical issues.
I do think some of that stuff is going to
come out as Trump takes office. But what do you
think about the claim? Does it surprise you that Biden's
sitting around now telling USA today, Hey, if I hadn't
dropped out, I would have won.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
No.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
I think that that's got to be his narrative for
the Biden Presidential Library and all the rest of it
going forward, was that Joe is one to zero against Trump.
That's not really fair considering he dropped out from running
against him. That's I think it's a little bit of
a forfeit. But put that aside for a moment. This
is always going to be what Biden and his whatever
(22:56):
Biden entourage he has around him. The're going to say
that they shouldn't have pushed him out, which I thought
all along. Honestly, I think that they now what Harry
Enton's saying there about he was never ahead in the polls. Okay, yes, true. However,
it might have been possible to turn things around in Gosh,
(23:16):
I sound like Biden's lawyer right now. Seriously, it might
have been possible for Biden to turn things around further
on in the in the summer by having some public
appearances and seeming But the other part of it is
I think his degeneration has really accelerated even the last year,
to the point where it was happening even fast. I
think there were a lot of people around Biden who
(23:40):
recognize that, you know, he was he was too old. Okay, yeah,
just put it that way. He's too old. But I
think that they didn't realize that he had reached that
point of too old in twenty twenty four, where each
month is like an eternity and he's aging at an
exponential rate instead of a linear rate. You know, yeah,
(24:02):
I think that that and that was part of why
they miscalculated so much. Could could Biden have won?
Speaker 6 (24:08):
No?
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Do I think Biden might have been able to do
a little better than Kamala. Maybe. I don't know. It
really just comes down to whether people believe that that
he was. If he could convince people that he wasn't
so dementia adult, I think he could have started to
make back some ground. I still think he would have lost.
I don't think he would have beaten Donald Trump. But
(24:29):
I'm just thinking out out loud about whether Biden or
Kamala would have been able to do. I mean, Kamala
did about as poorly as a candidate could do in
the contest, losing the popular vote, losing all seven swing states.
You know, unless you really thought that Biden was going
to run and lose New Jersey, which was what they
were afraid of initially.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Maybe Virginia New Jersey. I will say, in the same
way twenty sixteen, twenty twenty, twenty twenty four, if you
go into the actual battleground states, Kama came within two
hundred and thirty thousand votes of winning now that I.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Would have required her to sweep.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
She lost Pennsylvania by about one hundred and thirty thousand votes,
She lost Michigan by eighty thousand votes, and she lost
Wisconsin by thirty thousand votes ish, So it's about two
hundred and thirty thousand roughly votes. Thank god the Midwest
voted the way it did, But she could have gotten
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to two seventy to two sixty eight in the electoral
college buck and still lost the popular vote. There wasn't
a lot of discussion about what happens if Trump wins
the popular vote and loses the electoral college.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
What I just laid out.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
For you is only about two hundred and thirty thousand
votes in the Midwest away from having happened where Trump
would have won comfortably the popular vote by you know,
a million plus votes and still lost because of that
Midwest so called blue wall. What I don't think we
can analyze officially to be to Biden. To build on
(26:01):
your minor defense of Biden here, yes, his numbers were
awful at the time of the election that Harry Inton
just laid out, they didn't spend a billion and a
half dollars convincing people that Biden was actually really sharp,
and so if they had run the same billion and
a half ads for Kamala that they did for Biden instead,
(26:23):
I think it would have motivated people and buck I
think Biden would have done better in the Midwest than
Kamala did because I think ultimately, when you look at
the numbers, Kamala actually increased her support among white voters.
Not a lot of discussion about this the reason why
Trump won the popular votes black Asian, Hispanic voters. I
think that Biden would have done even better with older
(26:45):
white voters than Kamala did because a lot of older
white voters just find him unthreatening. And also, look, I
think that there's an element you and I are relatively
young when we say, hey, Biden's passed his prime.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Everything else.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
I think there's people in their seventies and eighties who
were voting that actually want to vote for someone around
their age because they find them less threatening. Trumpel was
the same age. Kamala is sixty. I mean, she's not
a spring chicken. But I think there's more of a
cultural divide between Kamala and older Midwestern voters than there
was Joe Biden. That Scranton Joe bs that most of
(27:22):
our listeners and most of us found to be not
very persuadable.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
The date actually reflects that some people did find that persuadable.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
So, yeah, there's this guy was able to stay in
the Senate for fifty years almost. I mean, there's there's
clearly his stick. Well, his whole life was his stick.
I mean, that's that's what Joe Biden. It works, and
it did, and it worked, and it was this whole
character and it was the big grin and the you know,
oh gosh, oh I'm so folksy, and the whole thing.
It was a sham, but it worked for him for
(27:52):
a long time. And I think even with him in
a frail state, I think it would have worked better
than whatever they were able to pull together with Kamala.
I mean, the Kamala campaign, even with more distance, I
think comes more a more clear recognition of just how
unbelievably bad she was at the whole thing, and what
(28:13):
an outrage it was against the intelligence of the American
people that the Kamala, the Kamala candidacy was something we
were supposed to be excited about because people were going
to get to get to go to like free Beyonce
concerts or appearances or I don't even know who some
of the people were that were getting paid money. The
Oprah sit down, the influencer lady who talks about the
(28:37):
things that we can't talk about on this show.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
I mean, you know, the caller daddy person.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
What I would say, also, Buck, in the same way
that we can't judge what the one and a half
billion dollars spent on behalf of Biden might have done
to the numbers. Obviously he was losing. What I also
think is important here is the longer this campaign would
have gone, the worse it would have been for Kamala.
In my opinion, what they're trying to say now, the
people who are defending Kamala is, well, what could you
(29:04):
expect her to do in a hundred days? I actually
think if it had been two hundred days, Kamala would
have done worse. If it had been three hundred days,
Kamala wouldn't have even been the nominee.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
Right.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
This idea that Kamala somehow was handicapped by the one
hundred day length of the campaign and what more could
she have done, actually, I think is totally dishonest. The
data reflects the longer time people have to see Kamala,
the less they like her. She was helped by the
abbreviated cycle of the campaign, I think more than hindered
(29:35):
by it, and that doesn't get talked about enough, but
I do think is an important component of how you
analyze this. The longer Kamala goes, the less people like her,
which is why I think, and I said this before,
I think her political career is over. I mean she
may be able to get elected governor of California. I
think her odds of being a national political figure that
is a nominee on the Democrat ticket in twenty eight
(29:58):
for instance, or thirty two or whatever, I think those
odds are close to zero.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
I think she has no chance.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
What a fetterman ends up being the great Democrat hope
moving toward the middle, a centrist who talks. I don't
dislike your Wes Moore call out. It's gonna be Wes Moore.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
But yeah, I think it will end up being either
Gretchen Whitmer or Josh Shapiro, because I think they're gonna
look at the map and say, we have to win
in the Midwest. There's no pathway otherwise. And that's what
I thought they should have done. Remember, listening to the show,
I said it should have been a Shapiro Whitmer ticket.
I think if they had been totally diabolical, kick Kamolat
(30:37):
to the curb and put those two in, I think
they might have been able to drag across the finish
line in the Midwest.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
And yet here we are instead going into twenty twenty
five days away from the very exciting inauguration of Donald
Trump part two, the second time around, and we'll be
in DC, by the way, we're looking forward to that.
We'll be there for it, and it will be I'm
sure or quite a not just the inauguration and all
the balls and stuff, just being in DC quite a
(31:06):
moment in history, considering all of all the fanfare that
will be going on. I also I keep thinking, Clay
that the left they just don't have the rage factor.
I almost feel like they've screamed themselves out a little
bit right now. I don't see protests anywhere, you know,
I don't see ye I don't see protests anywhere. I
(31:27):
don't see any of their usual little street militant types
from antifardy this stuff. Remember the first Trump inauguration, then
someone lit a limousine on fire, right, I mean, there
was like crazy stuff happening during the inauguration.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Buck if this were twenty sixteen, Obama laughing at a
Trump joke would have turned the left in this country
on Obama. They would have been just in discomplete disdain
and disbelief that that could have happened. And I'm with you.
The resistance is virtually non existent, like they've just given up.
(32:06):
I think Trump has broken the back of the resistance.
They have nothing left.
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help every day. Thank you so much. And we have
Patrick in Ohio, former firefighter in Detroit. Patrick, what's going on?
Speaker 6 (34:34):
Well's hut? And Hey, thanks guys for having me first
I would like to offer you some intelligence winkquink what
you said about Antifa after this call. If your screener
can take me for a second, I can share a
whole bunch of information with you that they are planning
to hit cities on the inaugural date. There's about twelve cities.
(34:55):
I got about twelve different things I can share to you.
That's open source, so you can count on them doing
what they're going to do. But to go back to
the fire chief number one, how does the fire chief
take sole control of the populace protection knowing its wildfire
(35:19):
season and those pipes are dry. But I'll bet you
the mayor's house is safe. I'll bet you every politician's
house is safe from burning down because a lot of
people are going to get hurt and killed over dei Hires.
No one cares that she's a lesbian. All we care
for is that she does her job. But when you're
taking a victory lap and people are losing property and
(35:41):
their lives, you are a failure. You don't stand for
the badge, you don't stand for the Maltese Cross. You're
not a representative of firemen anywhere because your sexuality is
first that tells me you're nothing but an ignorant DEI
higher pond, and I hope she hears it. Maybe she'll resign,
(36:03):
and maybe we can get people back into these services
that will provide protection and reliance, because I know a
lot of Americans right now after New Orleans are scared
to death and these people are running your cities and
you will get hurt.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Thank you for the call, and thank you for your
time as a firefighter. Look, nobody cares.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Nobody cares about anything in America as a huge majority,
other than can you do the job. And the more
significant your job is, the less we care about your diversity,
your identity, or your sexuality. We want people who can
protect you when they're fires. I know it's a crazy idea,
hire the best firefighters possible, and I don't think Los
(36:45):
Angeles did it, and I think they're reaping the consequences
of that decision right now.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Third hour, Next
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. We're rolling through the
Thursday edition of the program. I understand, by the way,
a lot of you getting snow that do not usually
get snow. The state of Texas not exactly renowned for
its ability to handle snow.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
All of you stay safe.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
You know the number one state for listenership of this
program state of Texas, which is we've been number one
in Houston, San Antonio, I think, Austin, I know, basically
all throughout the state. So we want you guys to
stay safe. But Buck, I was driving this morning and
(00:49):
the grocery store by my house looked like the apocalypse
had hit. I mean, when Southerners get snowfall, you're so
far south you're not gonna necessarily experience this because you're
down in Miami, not a place where now for its snowfall.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Clay, I'm doing this show in a sweatshirt because it's
sixty eight degrees outside right now.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
You guys are suffering in Miami. I actually noticed the
sweatshirt and now I was like, oh man, it must
be it must be below seventy in Miami.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Now the people where ski park is here. If there's
a fifty in it, there's a ski park involved. I
was telling you, fifty eight degrees, people look like they're
going out on the slopes.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I saw a woman walking a dog in my neighborhood
yesterday and it's like, I think it was forty degrees
or so yesterday afternoon sun shines out. She looked like
she was walking on the surface of the moon, like
she was basically in a spacesuit. So Southerners in cold
weather don't necessarily go together, even though we do get
a decent amount of cold weather in Nashville. It's gonna snow.
(01:51):
We want all of you to be safe. Now, a
couple of things that I want to hit. We're talking
about everything going on in LA. Will continue to monitor
the wildfires there. Also, they had a state funeral for
Jimmy Carter this morning and all of the former presidents
who are living were in attendance, and there was a
lot of different body language drama that was going on.
(02:14):
I will start with and it's gone megaviral. I don't
know what Trump said that made Barack Obama belly laugh,
but it was only a couple of months ago that
Barack Obama was saying that Trump was Hitler, and I
don't remember seeing very many clips of Hitler at public
events dropping jokes that had his top adversaries doubling over
(02:36):
in laughter.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I know all of you know.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
That this is ridiculous, but the fact that they tried
to tell us that Trump was Hitler as soon as
he wins the election, they show up at public events
and just joke and nash back and forth with each
other shows you how much of this is BS. But
there's also a video that's going viral of Michelle Obama
(02:58):
noticing Trump and Barack Obama, Sorry, of Kamala Harris noticing
Obama and Trump joking, and she gets frustrated and like
picks up the program and starts to look. It's very
body language specific, But I want to play a couple
of things. One Joe Biden and the Kamala husband and
(03:21):
wife duo. All of the public events, the interactions between
them are incredibly awkward. Here was Jake Tapper on CNN
acknowledging as the Bidens arrived to sit next to Kamala
and her husband, Doug. This was how he described the interaction.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Again, you didn't see a particularly one grading between the
first couple and the second couple. But again, we are
at a funeral, so one has to take that into
account when trying to read the body language of the
individuals there.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
When CNN even Jake Tapper is talking about the awkwardness
of the resident sitting down next to his vice president
and how their family interactions are to sign it's pretty frosty.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah. Also, you can be warm at a funeral, right,
I mean family coming together. And also, I mean this
is Jimmy Carter's not their family member, you know what
I'm saying, It's not even like.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
A I also think and again, yes, that's a great point.
Jimmy Carter was also one hundred. I mean, I understand
that funerals are sad, but if I were to live
to be one hundred, I would hope that people are
smiling and having a good time at my funeral.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
What did you want me to live to one hundred
and two? I mean, there are different celebrations I've been to,
you know. Unfortunately, Yes, I've been to funerals of well,
I've been a funerals of people who are, you know,
in their eighties, And it was like, what an incredible
life and the legacy and the grandkids. And I've been
to funerals of people in their twenties. Yeah, and that's
(04:54):
not a very different thing. Point being, Jimmy Carter is
a celebrated figure in this respect. He had a great,
long life. Whatever one thinks of Jimmy Carter as a president,
and there's no reason why they can't, meaning these other
former presidents or current in the case of Biden, they
can't all be nice to each other. It is the fact, though,
(05:16):
My biggest takeaway from this, other than I guess people
that they're sort of a pageantry to this, like they're
watching this, like what are we watching? Who cares about
the funeral of Jimmy Carter.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I had it on in the background because I wanted
to see what see. It's actually interesting. CNN covered the funeral.
Fox News covered the fires, which I thought was an
interesting decision.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Let's be honest, Clay, it's not the British royal family,
you know what I mean? You know, if we're to
go there, so you know, Clay Clay Clay is a
fan of the Royals. Anyway, I think that the fact
that Obama and Trump had at a funny moment is
just indicative of what we've seen all along, which is
(05:58):
the whole thing was a fraud, this whole that Trump
was Hitler and gonna splore the country, and I know
that they're just gonna it's it's a bit like how
insane they were during COVID, Like we didn't put people
in circles in the park and make sure they were
outside separate from each other with the big circles, like
they did all this insane stuff. That's why I was
watching Morning Joe every day, Morning Joe Clay. It was
(06:19):
it was like a limited time series for me because
they were so insane and lost their mind so uh
on command about Trump, and then we all realized that
the whole thing was a fraud. And this is a
big part of I think why the media never recovers
the whatever credibility they think they had beyond just speaking
to their own partisan interest. I think that's gone. I
(06:40):
don't think it ever comes back. You can't, you can't
shake this, right. I mean, Trump's not Hitler, but they
said he's Hitler every day.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yeah, and the the other thing associated with this, and
I do think it's it's it's significant, is I do
think we should call it out because if you truly
thought Trump was hitler, I don't even know how you
would respond to him at the state funeral, but you
certainly wouldn't be not you know, just joking it up
(07:09):
with him and laughing at the comments that he's making
on a regular basis. They all knew it was bs.
I want to ask you this. Michelle Obama didn't show up.
She's in Hawaii on family vacation. Barack Obama is there?
Correct me if I'm wrong. Team Laura Bush is there
with George Milanya is there with Trump. Doug dork that
(07:32):
he is, is there with Kamala, Jill is there with Joe.
I believe every other spouse Obama went solo. You hear
all the time in the media. Oh, Malanya doesn't actually
like Trump, right, Like that's a talking point on the left.
She doesn't go to his events. Where's Malania? Okay, she's
at the state funeral. You have access to private jets.
(07:55):
Shouldn't and let me play them saying that Michelle Obama
is not there? Is this and n guys, shouldn't Michelle
Obama be at the state funeral?
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Listen to this?
Speaker 5 (08:04):
It truly is extraordinary. The last time most of them
were in the sittingroom was in twenty eighteen at the funeral.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Of George H. W. Bush.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
President Trump was in office. Then one person missing, and
this is Michelle Obama. I'm told by her advisors that
she had a scheduling conflict. She's actually still in Hawaii
from an extended holiday vacation, so she's missing there.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
She's on vacation in Hawaii. By the way, Bill and
Hillary Clinton both there. Don't you have to get on
the plane and come to the funeral if your Michelle
Obama and your your husband was president for eight years?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
No, because being Michelle Obama means you don't have to
do anything that you don't want to do based on
what the expectations are. I just found I could get
away with whatever. That's the whole that's the whole point.
That's why she didn't want to run for president. By
the way, well do better.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Potentially, that potentially is true. I just think you owe
it to the country to take a half day off
of your Hawaiian vacation.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
And I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
I'm just saying she doesn't care like that's why you know,
he doesn't care what the country thinks about her going
or not going or whatever.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I mean, that's very clear. I also wonder did Barack
push on it? You're married?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Now, how does Barack handle this? Because I bet Barack Obama,
if you asked him, thinks that Michelle should be there.
But how hard does he press on this when he's like, hey, babe,
you know Jimmy Carter died, I'm a former president. Every
other wife is going to be there. I'm gonna go
to the funeral, but you can stay in Hawaii if
(09:37):
you want. And then she's like, yeah, I think I'll
stay in Hawaii. Does Obama go back with Matt maybe?
You know, we were president and first lady for eight years.
Even Milania is gonna be there, Hillary's gonna be there,
Jill's gonna be there. Does he push it all? This
is not President Obama, this is married man Obama. How
hard does he go on trying to get Michelle to come?
Speaker 5 (09:59):
All?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
All I know is that married married man Obama. Uh
needs to be very careful because no matter how compelling
his argument for Michelle going to the state funeral may be, better,
watch his tone. Got to watch out for the tone
even the president has to watch the tone, got to
watch the tone.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Tone.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Wait, I thought I was making compelling argument. I don't
like your tone. Now your toast, you know, now you're
in rough shape.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
So and the tone, by the way, I don't know
about you. Tone very often not a lot different than normal.
But as soon as your tone is is attacked, you're
in a difficult position. Women are very good at at
going after the tone. Here's the other thing women are
very good at.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I don't know if you notice this. They're very good
at telling you things without actually saying it. The number
of times I have gotten dressed to go to an
event and my wife has said.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
You're wearing that, Like not, you need to change. You're
wearing that? Yeah, this is this is.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
What I oh, I I don't you're really gonna wear that.
The number of times that women don't actually say what
they mean and men are supposed to translate what women
actually mean is high. I would just love to have
a transcript of Barack Obama, because not President Obama, it's
you know, twenty year married plus married Obama. When he
tries to tell Michelle that maybe she should leave Hawaii
(11:19):
and go to the state funeral because it will look
way better for the country. If she's willing to give
up one day of vacation in Hawaii, does she have
a job otherwise? Can she not go back to Hawaii
on the private jet right after? I mean, it doesn't
I understand if you're like, you know, you're in Ghana,
like mayor Karen Bass Here, it's a long trip, but
(11:40):
you're flying in a private jet. I fly at a
private Jet's not that awful. And then you can just
go right back to Hawaii and say there as long
as you want. So.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
I would love to know how hard he pushed on this.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I don't think he pushed hard. I don't think he
you know, I think that as long as he's there,
he feels like he's he's getting it done. And again,
I I don't know. I like the whole here's another
way to think about it. Two buck leave aside this.
If every other spouse was there and Milania wasn't, it
would be a major talking point about Milania.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Not being willing to come. What does it say about
her relationship with Trump? It would be a huge talking
point on MSNBC and CNN.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
I bet, I bet they don't even hardly mention Michelle
not being there.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yeah, I don't know if anyone cares necessarily. I mean,
I noticed.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I think it's I actually think it's disrespectful of her.
I think she should be there.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I care. I've actually disappointed in Michelle Obama not.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Doing drawing this line in the sand that that she
that she should have been there. Okay, I mean, yeah,
she should have been there, but she's.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Not, like I care about the cultural norms here, the
expectations being set the first lady. Everybody else sacks up
and manages to get there. I'm sure that Joe Biden
doesn't want to go to the fricking funeral. I'm sure
that Hillary Clinton doesn't want to be sitting a couple
of steps down from Joe from Trump. But they guarantee
(13:09):
you Milania didn't want to be there. But they're like, hey,
this is something that's appropriate for a politician to do.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Heck, how many people listening to us right now have
gone to funerals that they really had no interest in
going to but felt like it was the right thing
to do. That's the least Michelle Obama could do, and
she's making one hundred million dollars a year or whatever
the heck she is for stupid documentaries. The least she
could do is actually show up at the funeral. I'm sorry,
I'm actually disappointed and fired up about this.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
This may or may not come as a shock to you.
But what any of us think about Michelle Obama, I
don't think that is very much at all to Michelle Obama.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I think that's true.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
And by the way, I don't particularly care what people
think about me either, So I respect the fact that
Michelle Obama doesn't care what people think. But I think
I would have shown up at the if I were
a former president or first lady, if I could become
a woman, as Democrats consider the most heroic thing imaginable,
I would have put on my dress in my heels,
and I would have shown up.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I would have been a hero. Maybe I'm wrong. People
disagree with me on this. Eight hundred and two eight
two two eight eight two. Who's right here?
Speaker 3 (14:14):
I mean everyone, Okay, can we just get Everyone's gonna
say she absolutely should be there, and I agree. I'm
just saying, you know, I mean, come on, just be thankful,
just just be thankful she's not running for president.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Everybody.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Well, I'm very thankful because I think she might have
won because there's a lot of morons out there. She
would have definitely done better than Kamala did.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
We come back buck here in a little bit. Biden
did a sit down interview with USA Today. You want
to talk about the most useless media organization on the planet.
I think USA Today maybe at number one on my
list because now that they don't really give free newspapers
very often in hotels, does anyone actually subscribe to USA Today?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
And that's actually a good question.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Is there anyone listening to us right now that has
a subscription to USA Today? I mean, you actually pay
because you like it. Biden did an interview buck and
he bragged that if he had run, he would have won.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
This is delusional. We'll talk about it when we come back.
But Chalk.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
You know what, maybe if she had a little bit
more energy, Michelle Obama could have gotten on the airplane
and she could have flown away from her Hawaiian vacation
and shown up at Jimmy Carter's funeral.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
And if she had.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
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Is that where we're going.
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Didn't They used to say that they were the most
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But that's because they gave it away free everywhere.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Like if you stayed in a hotel room, you got
a USA Today back in the day right outside of
your door. I mean, they printed a ton of them.
I don't know that very many people bought it. I
don't even remember the last time I saw it as
a biable print product, and it's so dumb, like who
would subscribe to it? I just I don't know, is
does anyone listening to us? There are millions of you
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currently subscribe to USA today.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I just I would want to know.
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Speaker 1 (19:04):
With powering through the Thursday edition of the program, we've
been talking about the wildfires in California, the dastardly moved
by Michelle Obama not to be willing to show up
for Jimmy Carter's funeral, a slight I would probably never
forgive her for. But speaking of slights, Joe Biden Buck
told USA Today, which has a subscriber base, based on
(19:27):
our response on this show of zero, I mean, I
don't think anybody subscribes to the entire I don't know
how that newspaper still exists. Cannett in Trouble There they
had an interview with Joe Biden, and in that interview,
Biden said he believed he would have beaten Trump, among
other things. He also was rambling. I read the interview
(19:47):
the transcript of it.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
He said that Hunter Biden was being prosecuted for things
he did in the nineteen eighties. I mean, there are
some of these answers where you hear them and you're
just like, I mean, I'm sure Hunter did some things
in the night.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
I was gonna say, I'm sure there are things he
could be prosecuted for the nineteen eighties, but you know
who knows.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Statute of limitations tough in the eighties. Unless he was
numb and dead body somewhere, there's not a lot of
things you can get prosecuted for from back in the
eighties criminally, But Biden said he would have won. Harry Inton,
I always get these guys confused. I think he's see
an Ends guy. Then NBC has a guy too. It's
basically the same dude, and maybe it's like Superman. He
just takes off his sunglasses or whatever and goes back
(20:26):
and forth, and he's the same guy doing both jobs.
But he says that is a absolutely ridiculous claim. I'll play
that for you in a secure buck. But remember you
and I told everybody this was what was going to happen.
If Kamala had won, Biden would have said, I'm a hero.
I passed the baton. This is why I am a
modern day George Washington. As soon as Kamala loses, though,
(20:49):
he's got the ability to come out and say, well,
I would have never lost. You shouldn't have forced me out.
Heads he wins, tails, you lose. He can't have a
narrative that doesn't end favorably for him. Based on what
happened in the twenty twenty four election. Here is CNN
Harry Inton saying, actually, you're crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
This is absolutely not the case. Listen.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
Joe Biden, in his exit interview with USA Today, claims
that he could have beaten Donald Trump had he stayed
in the race. Let's look at the entire twenty twenty
four campaign. Daves Biden led Trump in twenty twenty four.
When Biden was still in the race, get this, zero nada,
no days, no days. Was Biden ahead of Donald Trump. No,
of course we looked at one point in time. We'll
look at when Biden was still in the race. What
would have happened if Biden had stayed in the race.
(21:33):
Is there any record of candidate as unpopular as Joe
Biden winning? Look Biden's net approval rating on election day
minus nineteen points. Look at this zero six incumbents reelected
with a negative net approval rating. The bottom line is this,
Joe Biden was behind, he had always been behind, and
he most likely would have stayed behind. And that's why
I categorize his statement that he could have won the
twenty twenty four election is flat out bombers.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Flat out bonkers, even on CNN. And I don't know
what the when the full post mortem is going to
come out about all of the failures of Biden inside
of the White House. I'm surprised that more of them
haven't come out yet. I will say I think this
speaks to Biden having a pretty loyal cores that surrounded
him on a regular basis. There haven't been that many
(22:15):
leaks about his moments of mental collapse frankly and physical issues.
I do think some of that stuff is going to
come out as Trump takes office. But what do you
think about the claim? Does it surprise you that Biden's
sitting around now telling USA today, Hey, if I hadn't
dropped out, I would have won.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
No.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
I think that that's got to be his narrative for
the Biden Presidential Library and all the rest of it
going forward, was that Joe is one to zero against Trump.
That's not really fair considering he dropped out from running
against him. That's I think it's a little bit of
a forfeit. But put that aside for a moment. This
is always going to be what Biden and his whatever
(22:56):
Biden entourage he has around him. The're going to say
that they shouldn't have pushed him out, which I thought
all along. Honestly, I think that they now what Harry
Enton's saying there about he was never ahead in the polls. Okay, yes, true. However,
it might have been possible to turn things around in Gosh,
(23:16):
I sound like Biden's lawyer right now. Seriously, it might
have been possible for Biden to turn things around further
on in the in the summer by having some public
appearances and seeming But the other part of it is
I think his degeneration has really accelerated even the last year,
to the point where it was happening even fast. I
think there were a lot of people around Biden who
(23:40):
recognize that, you know, he was he was too old. Okay, yeah,
just put it that way. He's too old. But I
think that they didn't realize that he had reached that
point of too old in twenty twenty four, where each
month is like an eternity and he's aging at an
exponential rate instead of a linear rate. You know, yeah,
(24:02):
I think that that and that was part of why
they miscalculated so much. Could could Biden have won?
Speaker 6 (24:08):
No?
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Do I think Biden might have been able to do
a little better than Kamala. Maybe. I don't know. It
really just comes down to whether people believe that that
he was. If he could convince people that he wasn't
so dementia adult, I think he could have started to
make back some ground. I still think he would have lost.
I don't think he would have beaten Donald Trump. But
(24:29):
I'm just thinking out out loud about whether Biden or
Kamala would have been able to do. I mean, Kamala
did about as poorly as a candidate could do in
the contest, losing the popular vote, losing all seven swing states.
You know, unless you really thought that Biden was going
to run and lose New Jersey, which was what they
were afraid of initially.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Maybe Virginia New Jersey. I will say, in the same
way twenty sixteen, twenty twenty, twenty twenty four, if you
go into the actual battleground states, Kama came within two
hundred and thirty thousand votes of winning now that I.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Would have required her to sweep.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
She lost Pennsylvania by about one hundred and thirty thousand votes,
She lost Michigan by eighty thousand votes, and she lost
Wisconsin by thirty thousand votes ish, So it's about two
hundred and thirty thousand roughly votes. Thank god the Midwest
voted the way it did, But she could have gotten
(25:27):
to two seventy to two sixty eight in the electoral
college buck and still lost the popular vote. There wasn't
a lot of discussion about what happens if Trump wins
the popular vote and loses the electoral college.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
What I just laid out.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
For you is only about two hundred and thirty thousand
votes in the Midwest away from having happened where Trump
would have won comfortably the popular vote by you know,
a million plus votes and still lost because of that
Midwest so called blue wall. What I don't think we
can analyze officially to be to Biden. To build on
(26:01):
your minor defense of Biden here, yes, his numbers were
awful at the time of the election that Harry Inton
just laid out, they didn't spend a billion and a
half dollars convincing people that Biden was actually really sharp,
and so if they had run the same billion and
a half ads for Kamala that they did for Biden instead,
(26:23):
I think it would have motivated people and buck I
think Biden would have done better in the Midwest than
Kamala did because I think ultimately, when you look at
the numbers, Kamala actually increased her support among white voters.
Not a lot of discussion about this the reason why
Trump won the popular votes black Asian, Hispanic voters. I
think that Biden would have done even better with older
(26:45):
white voters than Kamala did because a lot of older
white voters just find him unthreatening. And also, look, I
think that there's an element you and I are relatively
young when we say, hey, Biden's passed his prime.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Everything else.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
I think there's people in their seventies and eighties who
were voting that actually want to vote for someone around
their age because they find them less threatening. Trumpel was
the same age. Kamala is sixty. I mean, she's not
a spring chicken. But I think there's more of a
cultural divide between Kamala and older Midwestern voters than there
was Joe Biden. That Scranton Joe bs that most of
(27:22):
our listeners and most of us found to be not
very persuadable.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
The date actually reflects that some people did find that persuadable.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
So, yeah, there's this guy was able to stay in
the Senate for fifty years almost. I mean, there's there's
clearly his stick. Well, his whole life was his stick.
I mean, that's that's what Joe Biden. It works, and
it did, and it worked, and it was this whole
character and it was the big grin and the you know,
oh gosh, oh I'm so folksy, and the whole thing.
It was a sham, but it worked for him for
(27:52):
a long time. And I think even with him in
a frail state, I think it would have worked better
than whatever they were able to pull together with Kamala.
I mean, the Kamala campaign, even with more distance, I
think comes more a more clear recognition of just how
unbelievably bad she was at the whole thing, and what
(28:13):
an outrage it was against the intelligence of the American
people that the Kamala, the Kamala candidacy was something we
were supposed to be excited about because people were going
to get to get to go to like free Beyonce
concerts or appearances or I don't even know who some
of the people were that were getting paid money. The
Oprah sit down, the influencer lady who talks about the
(28:37):
things that we can't talk about on this show.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
I mean, you know, the caller daddy person.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
What I would say, also, Buck, in the same way
that we can't judge what the one and a half
billion dollars spent on behalf of Biden might have done
to the numbers. Obviously he was losing. What I also
think is important here is the longer this campaign would
have gone, the worse it would have been for Kamala.
In my opinion, what they're trying to say now, the
people who are defending Kamala is, well, what could you
(29:04):
expect her to do in a hundred days? I actually
think if it had been two hundred days, Kamala would
have done worse. If it had been three hundred days,
Kamala wouldn't have even been the nominee.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
Right.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
This idea that Kamala somehow was handicapped by the one
hundred day length of the campaign and what more could
she have done, actually, I think is totally dishonest. The
data reflects the longer time people have to see Kamala,
the less they like her. She was helped by the
abbreviated cycle of the campaign, I think more than hindered
(29:35):
by it, and that doesn't get talked about enough, but
I do think is an important component of how you
analyze this. The longer Kamala goes, the less people like her,
which is why I think, and I said this before,
I think her political career is over. I mean she
may be able to get elected governor of California. I
think her odds of being a national political figure that
is a nominee on the Democrat ticket in twenty eight
(29:58):
for instance, or thirty two or whatever, I think those
odds are close to zero.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
I think she has no chance.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
What a fetterman ends up being the great Democrat hope
moving toward the middle, a centrist who talks. I don't
dislike your Wes Moore call out. It's gonna be Wes Moore.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
But yeah, I think it will end up being either
Gretchen Whitmer or Josh Shapiro, because I think they're gonna
look at the map and say, we have to win
in the Midwest. There's no pathway otherwise. And that's what
I thought they should have done. Remember, listening to the show,
I said it should have been a Shapiro Whitmer ticket.
I think if they had been totally diabolical, kick Kamolat
(30:37):
to the curb and put those two in, I think
they might have been able to drag across the finish
line in the Midwest.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
And yet here we are instead going into twenty twenty
five days away from the very exciting inauguration of Donald
Trump part two, the second time around, and we'll be
in DC, by the way, we're looking forward to that.
We'll be there for it, and it will be I'm
sure or quite a not just the inauguration and all
the balls and stuff, just being in DC quite a
(31:06):
moment in history, considering all of all the fanfare that
will be going on. I also I keep thinking, Clay
that the left they just don't have the rage factor.
I almost feel like they've screamed themselves out a little
bit right now. I don't see protests anywhere, you know,
I don't see ye I don't see protests anywhere. I
(31:27):
don't see any of their usual little street militant types
from antifardy this stuff. Remember the first Trump inauguration, then
someone lit a limousine on fire, right, I mean, there
was like crazy stuff happening during the inauguration.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Buck if this were twenty sixteen, Obama laughing at a
Trump joke would have turned the left in this country
on Obama. They would have been just in discomplete disdain
and disbelief that that could have happened. And I'm with you.
The resistance is virtually non existent, like they've just given up.
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I think Trump has broken the back of the resistance.
They have nothing left.
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Patrick in Ohio, former firefighter in Detroit. Patrick, what's going on?
Speaker 6 (34:34):
Well's hut? And Hey, thanks guys for having me first
I would like to offer you some intelligence winkquink what
you said about Antifa after this call. If your screener
can take me for a second, I can share a
whole bunch of information with you that they are planning
to hit cities on the inaugural date. There's about twelve cities.
(34:55):
I got about twelve different things I can share to you.
That's open source, so you can count on them doing
what they're going to do. But to go back to
the fire chief number one, how does the fire chief
take sole control of the populace protection knowing its wildfire
(35:19):
season and those pipes are dry. But I'll bet you
the mayor's house is safe. I'll bet you every politician's
house is safe from burning down because a lot of
people are going to get hurt and killed over dei Hires.
No one cares that she's a lesbian. All we care
for is that she does her job. But when you're
taking a victory lap and people are losing property and
(35:41):
their lives, you are a failure. You don't stand for
the badge, you don't stand for the Maltese Cross. You're
not a representative of firemen anywhere because your sexuality is
first that tells me you're nothing but an ignorant DEI
higher pond, and I hope she hears it. Maybe she'll resign,
(36:03):
and maybe we can get people back into these services
that will provide protection and reliance, because I know a
lot of Americans right now after New Orleans are scared
to death and these people are running your cities and
you will get hurt.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Thank you for the call, and thank you for your
time as a firefighter. Look, nobody cares.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Nobody cares about anything in America as a huge majority,
other than can you do the job. And the more
significant your job is, the less we care about your diversity,
your identity, or your sexuality. We want people who can
protect you when they're fires. I know it's a crazy idea,
hire the best firefighters possible, and I don't think Los
(36:45):
Angeles did it, and I think they're reaping the consequences
of that decision right now.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
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