September 29, 2025 • 36 mins
In Hour 2 of The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show, Clay Travis dives into a major political bombshell and cultural flashpoints shaping the national conversation. The hour opens with breaking news that ESPN and SEC Network analyst Paul Finebaum is seriously considering a run for the U.S. Senate in Alabama, following Senator Tommy Tuberville’s decision to pursue the governorship. Clay shares exclusive details from his in-depth weekend interview with Finebaum, revealing how the assassination of Charlie Kirk profoundly influenced Finebaum’s thinking about America’s future. Finebaum, a household name in college football, expressed frustration with cultural decline and confirmed he’s weighing a move from sports media to politics—a decision Clay predicts could “land like a neutron bomb” in both sports and political circles.
Listeners hear Finebaum’s candid remarks about his motivations, including his disillusionment with corporate media after Disney blocked him from interviewing President Trump in 2019, despite ESPN’s frequent access to Barack Obama. Clay underscores the cultural double standard and praises Finebaum’s courage in publicly acknowledging he’s a Trump voter—something virtually unheard of among current ESPN personalities. This revelation sparks a broader discussion about cancel culture, free speech, and the growing movement of Americans refusing to stay silent.
The hour also touches on Bruce Pearl’s decision not to enter the Alabama Senate race, leaving the field wide open for Finebaum, whose name recognition and deep Alabama roots make him a formidable contender. Clay takes calls from longtime listeners reacting to the news, many expressing strong support for Finebaum’s potential candidacy.
Meanwhile, Clay keeps an eye on breaking developments from the White House, where President Trump, Vice President JD Vance, and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu are expected to announce progress on a 21-point Middle East peace plan aimed at ending the Gaza conflict ahead of the October 7 anniversary of the Hamas attacks. The discussion highlights the high-stakes diplomacy and the presence of key figures like Secretary Marco Rubio and Jared Kushner.
Cultural commentary continues with JK Rowling’s fiery response to Emma Watson over gender ideology, reinforcing Rowling’s status as a fearless voice in the free speech debate. Clay promises more on this in Hour 3 but previews Rowling’s sharp critique of Hollywood virtue signaling.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
In hour number two Klay Travis buck Sexton show, we
are monitoring when there will be a press availability in
the White House with Benjamin nettan Yahoo.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
They are discussing Middle East peace.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
We have been following the Michigan church attack and Erica
Adams dropping out of the New York City's mayoral race,
as well as the James Comy charges fallout.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
A lot of news out there, and I.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Made some news that is starting to ricochet around the
political universe as well, just in the last few hours.
So let me kind of take you into an interview
that I did over the weekend. So I went down
for the Georgia Alabama game in Athens. Had an amazing
time hanging out and meeting many of you all over
(00:55):
the place. Congratulations to Alabama. Turns out they're still pretty
good at football. They beat Georgia Electric Environment Sandford Stadium.
It was fantastic. I did a couple of interviews longer form.
We may share some clips from them with Paul Feinbaum,
and that's what I'm talking about today. I also talked
(01:17):
with Senate candidate in Georgia Derek Dooley, who is a
friend of mine, former football coach running to try to
beat John Assoff in the competitive Georgia Senate race down there.
So we may have a couple of cuts for that
for you later in the week as well. But we
did two what I would say long form interviews. I
(01:37):
talked with Paul Finbaum for an hour. Now, some of
you are going to immediately know who Paul Feinbaum is.
He is a SEC Network ESPN analyst, longtime radio guy,
hosts a multi hour daily SEC Network show. If you
watch a ESPN at all, he's regularly on First Take
(02:00):
Stephen A.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Smith.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I've known Paul for twenty years. So I got started
in radio through writing in local Some of you been
listening to me since I did local sports talk radio
in my hometown of Nashville, and I was employed back
in the day on one oh four to five of
the Zone in Nashville doing a daily sports talk show.
(02:21):
And Paul was employed in Birmingham, Alabama, doing a daily
sports talk show as well, and we were both employed
by a company called Cumulus. They dominated sports talk in
Birmingham and dominated sports talk in Nashville. And so I've
known Paul for twenty years. Some of you listening to
me right now all over the state of Alabama. You've
(02:41):
heard me go on Fine Bomb Show back in the
day quite a lot. So we had a one hour
long sit down, and as part of that conversation, many
of you know because Tommy Tubberville, who's been on this
show a great number of times, is giving up his
Senate seat to run for governor of Alabama. There is
(03:01):
an open Senate seat in Alabama, and I'm truth be told.
Let mean just I'll just tell you everything. I have
had a lot of conversations with a lot of people
in Alabama about what's going to happen with that Senate See.
I talked to Bruce Pearl about it. A great deal.
Auburn men's basketball coach, Bruce Pearl, he's been on this program.
He's a great friend of mine. He really seriously thought
(03:25):
about running. He has stepped down as a college basketball
coach at Auburn. He's basically going to be now the
mayor of Auburn. He's not running. Paul told me that
he had had similar Paul feine mom conversations with Bruce
Pearl were all friends and he.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Wasn't going to run.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
If Bruce Pearl was going to run, but Bruce Pearl said,
you know what, I'm not going to do it. And
Paul and I had conversations and he said, hey, Clay,
I'm thinking about doing this. And I said, okay, well
let's kind of walk through it. And he said, what's
the best way that I could let people know that
I'm serious about this? And I said, well, how about
you sit down with me and we have a long
(04:04):
form discussion and we'll get into it. And that full
long form discussion is going to go up tomorrow. But Paul,
we are going to release a couple of clips. You'll
see me talking about it on Fox News with Will Caine.
This just came out. I think Paul's gonna run. This
is my opinion based on my conversations with him. He
(04:25):
could certainly change his mind, but I would encourage you
guys to go listen to the full conversation. But here
is the specific part about why now, why is Paul
Feinbaum thinking about giving up sports and going and running
for the Senate in Alabama?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Here was his answer, Well, you're sitting there talking to
Steven A.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Smith and as you're waiting for your return, you're thinking,
I wonder if I should move forward on this. So
it's it's a it's a it's been going on for
a couple of days or if not weeks, and it's
just hard to chisel it down to make an educated decision.
But to say I'm considering it, of course, yes, it's
(05:05):
something that I can't say I've dreamed about. I can't
say I've thought about it. I'm not a career politician
who had it all mapped out. This is just something
that just came to me. And it's also very late,
and I don't know quite how to deal with it.
But as far as your question, you know, would I
give up what I'm doing?
Speaker 5 (05:22):
I would.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
I would have to, Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
So the question in there was what is part of
the motivating factor? And maybe we can get a little
bit more of that clip, he said Charlie Kirk, And
I do think and you may have experienced this in
your own life, because I know how many of you
were impacted. I think a lot of people, no matter
(05:47):
what they do for a living.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
You could be a.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Sports talk radio show host at ESPN. You could be
a garbage truck driver in Spokane, Washington listening to us
right now. You could be a truck driver in Northern Virginia.
It really seriously made a lot of people contemplate what's
(06:12):
going on in the country and how all of us
could do more to try and make things better. And
I think that is one of the most motivating factors
for Paul Feinbaum right now. And I'll give you a
little bit of a preview of our conversation. Paul goes
(06:33):
around to college campuses for the SEC Network every weekend,
and he meets a lot of college kids because the
kids show up for the crowd at the events that
he does, and in talking with him, what he saw
happened to Charlie made it very hard for him to think,
(06:55):
I want to continue to just do sports for the
rest of my career. And I think the reason he
wanted to sit down with me is I made that
decision several years ago. COVID was my motivating factor. You
guys know, I still love sports. I still talk a
lot about sports. I think it's important to go to
where people are culturally and connect with them. So why
(07:17):
I still do a lot of sports Because I think
you can really connect with people in speaking their common
language where they are, as opposed to trying to drag
everybody into politics all the time, and I made that decision.
I feel fortunate to have the boss, Julie Talbot that
we do, because she really got me by saying, you
(07:41):
could do sports talk radio for the rest of your
life and not have the impact that you would have
in six months of doing this show that we do now.
And so if you really and I do care desperately
about the direction of the country, and you care about
the world that your kids are coming into, then you
have to say yes to this opportunity.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I didn't seek it.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Out, and I think that's what Paul now was finding
and working through in his head in the wake of
what happened to Charlie Kirk. And I really do believe
that he's going to run and I think he's going
to win. And I asked him in the interview because
there's always the skepticism, Okay, are you just doing this
(08:26):
to get more money? Are you just doing this for
the attention that it's going to create? And I've known
Paul for twenty years. I don't think he is. I
think he legitimately feels like there are serious things in
life that picking the winner of college football games, while
it's fun, is the toy chest of life, and he's
(08:48):
concerned about the trajectory of the country. And I think
he loves the people of Alabama. And so again, as
we kind of work through this, this thing is going
to land like a new baumb I'm just gonna be
honest with you, because a little bit later today we're
going to release a clip where Paul says, hey, Disney
(09:10):
would not let me interview President Trump. He was all
set up to interview President Trump in twenty nineteen when
President Trump went to the LSU Alabama game Joe Burrow
against TUA for those of you who are sports fans,
and it was all set up. He was going to
go to the White House. He was going to sit
(09:30):
down with President Trump. And Disney said no, And I
asked him in the interview, I said, well, you know,
that's kind of interesting because they interviewed Barack Obama all
the time, and Paul said, yeah. They sent in Andy
Katz for those of you who remember, and Barack Obama
did a men's and women's basketball bracket every year from
(09:52):
the White House and he ESPN treated it as a
major news story. And so Paul was all set up
to sit down with President Trump to talk to him
about going to the big game between LSU and Alabama.
It is for most journalists, interviewing the President of the
United States is the apex of your career, one of
(10:15):
the moments that is why you do this. I'm gonna
be honest with you. If I had an interview set
up with the President of the United States of any party,
and somebody said to me, no, you can't do it,
I would lose it. And I think in the way,
(10:35):
and so Paul talks about that, and I think that's
going to land like a neutron bomb inside of Disney
because they're just dealing with the Jimmy Kimmel fall out.
Trump Paul Finbaum, I didn't know his politics. To be fair,
we did not talk about politics. I have tons of
friends that I just don't talk about politics at all with.
(11:00):
In fact, one of my high school buddies came out
for a drink with us after this interview, hung out
with us. He's a Kamala voter. He thinks I'm a
moron for my politics, but he's one of my best friends.
And so I have tons of people in my life
that I just don't sider. It's probably not a surprise.
Probably a lot of you do too. I don't sit
(11:21):
around minutely analyzing politics with I'll have a beer with anybody.
And I think Paul's the same way. And so I
didn't even know his politics. I'm gonna be honest with you.
So a lot of the people I do know because
they reach out to me and they say, hey, thanks
for saying I'm talking about people on air. Hey thanks
for saying this man, you're speaking for a lot of us.
I didn't know Paul was a Trump voter. I didn't
(11:41):
know he was a registered Republican. And I think he's
just fed up. I think he's just fed up with
the direction the culture is going. And the Charlie Kirk
was a crucible moment for him. Of as someone who
goes to college campuses every weekend and speak, sees and
speaks to so many of these young men young women.
What happened to Charlie was I think devastating to Paul
(12:05):
as it was devastating to many of you. And it
has him questioning some of his life choices and contemplating
what he wants the next chapter of his life to
be like. And I know many of you probably have
had those same thoughts in your mind. Like I said,
whether you're a FedEx truck delivery guy, a truck driver,
(12:26):
an ESPN television analyst, or just a mom and a
dad out there trying to raise kids to the best
of your ability. I feel like it has struck so
many of us and in a profound way. That's had
many people questioning a lot of their choices. I mean, heck,
some of you probably went to church who haven't been
to church in a long time, just because you felt
(12:47):
compelled to go in the wake of seeing that video,
just to try to do something, even it's a small thing,
to try to make the country a little bit better.
And I think there is an awakening that is going
on across the cultural landscape. And I think it's brave.
Frankly of Paul to come out as being a Trump
voter sounds crazy. I think he's the first on air
(13:08):
person at a ESPN who's currently employed by Disney to
ever come out and say, Hey, I'm a Trump voter,
and this is going to have major shockwaves. So I
wanted to share it with you. There are more of
these cuts coming, by the way, A lot of you
out there. Eight hundred two two eight A two. You
can react, but I wanted to make sure that we
that we played all that for you, and so we
(13:32):
will play a little bit more of that interview for
you potentially going forward. But I also think this is
the continuing fallout the legacy of what happened to Charlie Kirk,
which you could see on the campus at Penn State
where five thousand young people were wearing those freedom t
shirts in the crowd, And I think it's bringing a
lot of people off the sideline who might otherwise have
(13:54):
been staying silent.
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Welcome back in, Clay, Travis, Buck Sexton show a lot
of reaction.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
I'm going to roll in.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Will continue to take your reactions to that, Paul finebaumb idea.
But where I would say it's significant. Let's say you're
out there and you say, hey, I don't care at all, Clay,
I don't care about sports. I haven't watched a sporting
event in twenty years. Probably some of you out there
in this world. You say Okay, why should I care
about this? I think what it's emblematic of is a
(15:51):
lot of people are coming off the sidelines. And I
hoped that we would see this where they had that
amazing turning point rally and event and memorial service.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Eight days ago.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
And I think that you are starting to see an
awakening out there from people who thought, Hey, you know what,
I'll just stay quiet. Hey, you know what, I'll just
stay silent. I've got my private beliefs, but I don't
want to rock the boat. See, left wingers never had
to worry about this.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
If you're a left.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Wing, you're out there with your opinions, you're pirouetting, cartwheeling
because the culture at large supports you. There are almost
no consequences for being left wing. It's almost been impossible
for you to be too far left wing. The culture
just embraces you, it encourages you, it promotes you. And so,
(16:54):
as a result, and a lot of you are in
this camp who are listening to me right now, a
lot of you just stay quiet. You didn't click publish
on that Facebook post. You didn't go out there and
make your support necessarily publicly known for Trump. And by
the way, a lot of you did. But there are
(17:14):
certain jobs. Media is one. Sports media is certainly one.
I mean, think about this. Paul Feinbaum is the first
person employed at ESPN to ever say publicly he voted
for Trump. Think about how wild that is. That's what
the culture in place creates, is fear that if you
(17:38):
speak out, you are going to suffer consequences. You might
lose your job, your career is not going to be
the same. I think Paul speaking out is actually symptomatic
of what we're seeing nationwide in many different parts of
American life. I think Charlie Kirk's assassination has brought a
lot of people off the sidelines who just are saying
(17:59):
no more, or I'm not going to be quiet any longer.
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Clay Travis buck Sexton shows are assembled in the State
dining Room. No word on exact timing, but we could
get major announcements on the Middle East peace negotiations surrounding Gaza.
Some of the people attending Vice President Vance, Secretary Rubio Hegseeth,
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Susie Wiles, Chief of Staff Steve Whitkoff, Jared Kushner who
have been involved in the negotiations. Again, Trump and net
Yahoo to potentially hold a joint news conference. We will
join that if it starts. Before that program gets underway.
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Tony and Raleigh, Durham, North Carolina, listening to us on
one oh six point one FM talk radio.
Speaker 7 (19:45):
EE reacts Hey, Clay, glad to hear about Feinbaum. As
a Michigan and Jim Harbaugh fan. It hasn't been a
favorite personality of mine, but maybe I'll give him a
second look from now since he's going to possibly run
for office as a Republican.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
David in Birmingham, Alabama.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
By the way, this story now is everywhere New York Times,
Washington Post, Finebaum considering running here is David in Birmingham.
You've been listening known him for thirty years, as he says,
I mean he's lived in Alabama for much of his life,
recently moved back from Charlotte, North Carolina, where the SEC
(20:28):
network is located. What's your reaction as someone who has
listened to him for a long time, David.
Speaker 8 (20:35):
I think it's great, you know absolutely, I said. I've
known Paul years ago as a regular caller on his show.
You know, Paul can be very polarizing at times, especially
dependable whether the Alabama wins or Auburn wins or how
it goes, especially with him being a Tennessee fan. Tennessee
graduate also roll tied over this weekend. Thank you for that, But.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
I had to get that in.
Speaker 8 (20:57):
But no, I mean Paul, I mean he's very oh
but he's very big hearted about a lot of stuff.
He can be hard headed and obstinate, but I think
we need a lot more of that in Washington, in
the Senate. And you know, at the same time, you know,
I mean he's got the name recognition. I mean, it's
just you know, that's first I've heard of it, you know,
And I'm.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Real people, David, for people who are not aware, how
popular and well known would you say Paul Feinbaum is
in the state of Alabama.
Speaker 8 (21:26):
He would probably be in the top five or the
top five or ten in name recognition in the state,
no doubt.
Speaker 9 (21:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (21:34):
And I truly meant having been in politics and involved
what I understand. But he's well known. But like I
said it, really he can be very polarizing at times.
But you know, because you get these insane people, you know,
you know over in Day, Alabama and they've never been
to a football game in their life unless it's a
free a day game, you know.
Speaker 9 (21:51):
But you know, but top Paul, I mean, if you
really know.
Speaker 8 (21:55):
The guy and if he gets the word out right,
I mean, he can put the right message out.
Speaker 9 (22:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
He Sharks did a great job.
Speaker 8 (22:01):
Coach Tuberville did a great job, I think, and I
hate to lose him in the Senate, you know, but
if you replaced you know me mall governor mem that'd
be great too.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
You know.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Uh, it's just go ahead.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
No, I was just gonna say, I mean, I I
think it's going to turn into a huge story already
has all over the state of Alabama. It's gonna also
be uh sort of crescendoing around the country as well.
What else would you say? People should know? And then
I'm going to go to a couple of other callers
that are waiting.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
I think they just need to know that.
Speaker 8 (22:32):
You know, Paul was a lot smarter than just SEC football.
I mean, you know, he can listen to an issue
and look at both sides of an issue I think,
and tell you what he thinks and I think, and
what would be best for the for the state and
the nation, you know. I mean, and I truly believe that,
you know, And sometimes I have to bite my tongue
over things that you know, want to say something to him,
(22:52):
But I respect the hell out of.
Speaker 9 (22:54):
Him for that.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Yeah, thank you for the call. I will say this.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
When I started doing politics, people said, boy, you know
this is going to be really controversial. And I just said,
do you realize what it's like to pick a winner
between Alabama and Auburn, or Michigan or Ohio State, which
I've been doing for the last fifteen years. You pick
on a side that that other side doesn't like. I
gotta tell you it's way more contentious than what you
(23:19):
think about the tax rates. I'm just gonna tell you.
Like the heat of the political universe, I think Tommy
Tubervill would probably say, this is nothing compared to the
heat of the college football universe in the state of Alabama.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Eddie in Alabama, what you got for us?
Speaker 9 (23:37):
Hey, guys, do you recognize the name?
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Have you been a long time fine bomb caller?
Speaker 5 (23:46):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (23:46):
Well, not really call her, but I am the big
brother of Bobby and Donnie Allison and Davy Allison.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Oh cool, I didn't know your last name.
Speaker 9 (23:59):
Okay, Yeah, Paul is a good friend of mine. And
when I heard you guys talking about it, I wanted
to call you a bunch of times and just go.
I got to swing out in my backyard and my
radio over my head. I happened to be eighty nine
years old, and Buck. I grew up right where you're at. Man,
(24:20):
I lived the first twenty seven years of my life
in Miami, Florida.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Well, we appreciate you listening every single day. Would you
vote you're in Alabama now, would you vote for Paul Feinebaum.
Speaker 9 (24:33):
Oh definitely. He and I are very close. Matter of fact,
when Nil first broke, I called him and I said, Paul,
there's nobody in the whole organization that knows how to
do this and has enough brains to be able to
do it. And in the process, now we have lost
(24:56):
the best coach of college football. Less I mean, by
misfortune of my nephew getting killed. I end up in
the locker room at Alabama had practice every day for
ten years.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Oh wow.
Speaker 9 (25:15):
And I listened to them kids. And matter of fact,
I talked to Dabbo Dabos when he's a very good
friend mine, and I talked to him before the season charted.
I said, Dabo, this thing is ruined. And he said, well,
maybe the new rules will helped it, but they haven't.
You know, it's just sad that we have destroyed college football,
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you know. But and the same well like I got
before me, we get we got the two best senators
in the whole United States in the state of Alabama.
And I hate to lose Tommy, but if to run,
I let him go up there and see what he
can do.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
So well, thank you for the call, and thank you
for listening, and enjoy that swing set out there, and
we hope we keep you entertained a little bit. It's
our eighty nine year old caller, one of them down
in Alabama. Let me play I had the team. I
want you to hear the full answer. This is what's
out there right now on Paul finebaumb in the Senate,
that is coming out of the interview that we did
over the weekend in Athens. Let me play this entire
(26:18):
clip for y'all. Here it is in its totality. This
is what we've released directly relating to the Senate.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
I had.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Received a text from someone who I knew that I'd
seen at an event, and it led to another conversation,
and ultimately one or two people in Washington had reached
out to me about whether I would be interested in politics,
something I had never thought about before, something I didn't
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really think possible. I lived in Charlotte, North Carolina. Yeah,
I wasn't there wasn't a lane there to get yeah,
to get involved. But I gave some thought to it
as this weekend unfolded with Charlie and got a little
bit more interested, and yeah, there's there's an open Sorry
to cut you off, but there. Tommy Tuberville was running
(27:14):
for governor, a former Auburn coach who beat Alabama six
times in a row. And I think it's fair to
say he's gonna win pretty comfortably.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Seems to be the assessment. There's an open senate seat.
Bruce Pearl, also at Auburn, had talked about it. He says,
now he's not going to run. Is that with the conversation?
Are you somewhat interested and intrigued at the opportunity of
looking into that senate race? I'm assuming that's what they
reached out to you to talk to you about, Yes.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
And I was. I was hesitant at first because I
was very aware of Bruce's interests and huge fan of Bruce,
and I thought he would, you know, he would. He
would have a tremendous voice, So I was very cautious.
I didn't take it too seriously, and then ultimately I
ended up talking to someone who made it clear that
(28:04):
there was a desire for me to be involved. And
this person, obviously that's shower may name was. It was
compelling and compassionate in the approach to me, and I
started thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
This a person highly up in the Alabama political universe.
Is that fair to say that you're having the conversations
with Okay, so you're thinking about it now, how when
thinking about it?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
The next step? The steps?
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I mean, obviously I'm assuming that what people would say
is Paul Feinbaum has basically one hundred percent name recognition
in the state of Alabama.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Right, I don't think that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
You have the ability to obviously speak on television, You're
a good communicator. You've talked to the people of Alabama
for decades. Now, what's that timeframe look like for you?
So there are people who want you to run, you've
been struck. I mean, I think maybe it's fair to
say by the seriousness of things going on in the world.
You've had a lot of success in sports. Some people
would say, are you willing to give up? I mentioned
(29:03):
lead course, though, you could ride this thing out for
another twenty years and you could be in your nineties
saying goodbye to an.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
SEC football stadium.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I don't think that's a crazy, you know, trajectory that's
out there. But this other pathway is potentially beckoning or
intriguing to you.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
It is very intriguing.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
I am thinking about it constantly, and that's difficult to do, Clay,
as you're talking about college football. Yeah, twenty hours a
week debating Steven A. Smith.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
As you well know.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
I mean you're sitting there talking to Steven A. Smith
and as you're waiting for your turn, you're thinking, I
wonder if I should move forward on this. So it's
been going on for a couple of days or if
not weeks, and it's just hard to chisel it down
to make an educated decision, but to say I'm considering.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
It, of course, So of course he is, all right,
we'll go to break here. We'll continue to take your
reaction again. Also pending a live press conference potentially announcing
significant news as it pertains to the Middle East peace process.
As we come up on the two year anniversary of
(30:21):
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twenty twenty three, this coming Sunday, you're going to see
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Speaker 6 (31:16):
Two guys walk up to a mic Hey, anything goes
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Speaker 2 (31:28):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. As we are rolling
through the program. We continue to wait Producer Ali. You
can come up any further information about when this Israel
Net and Yahoo and Trump press conference. The joint media
availability will be happening still standing by, so we will
(31:53):
go live. You told me Ali off the air that
there's all sorts of conflicting news stories out there about
exactly when he's going to come to the lectern.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Do we know any more? Now we're just getting another
word two pm.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Top shof PM, So in ten minutes, basically we're going
to have that presser. Okay, So we may well go
live to that presser here in the next hour again
with a lot of different news stories that are continuing
to break out there, this of course having to do
with Middle Eastern peace. But I did want to share
this because we may be going live to Trump and
(32:29):
we may not get the opportunity to share it. This
is pretty incredible. Jk Rowling, who I love. Jk Rowlling,
the Harry Potter author, has skyrocketed on my list of
people that I would like to go to dinner or
have a drink with, or just be able to hang
out with. She may now be in my top five,
(32:52):
and if I could interview anybody, She's moving up the
list in a hurry too, because I love how fearless
she has been. And we may not get into a
lot of this because we may have the live press
conference to go to. But she had a statement that
she put out surrounding I want to make sure I
get her name right this time, Emma Watson, who played
(33:12):
Hermiami Granger, and she posted this on Twitter, and I
just thought several of these lines are incredible.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
This is what she said.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
I'm not owned eternal agreement from any actor who once
played a character I created. The idea is as ludicrous
as me checking with the boss I had when I
was twenty one for what opinions I should hold these days.
Emma Watson and her co stars have every right to
embrace gender identity ideology. Such beliefs are legally protected, and
(33:49):
I wouldn't want to see any of them threatened with
loss of work or violence or death because of them. However,
Emma and Dan in particular have both made it over
the last few years they think our former professional association
gives them a particular right, nay obligation, to critique me
and my views in public. Years after they finished acting
(34:12):
in Potter, they continue to assume the role of de
facto spokespeople for the world I created. I'm going to
keep reading from this in the third hour but I
read it this morning and I told you I didn't
even need my crocket coffee because it was absolutely devastating
and so perfectly well said. We'll talk about it a
(34:33):
little bit in the third hour, but as we get
ready for that press conference, a lot of you wanting
to weigh in. Michael in New Hampshire, what do you
think about Fine baumb running for Senate?
Speaker 5 (34:45):
All right, Travis Boo twenty three, love your show, Love
Buck with that name Buck, he should be playing those
tackles for the Chiefs. I think Paul should throw his
hat into the arena. We need more people who are vocal,
who come up and talk the biggest issues because like
with sports, I always said to the guys who were
starting to lean away from sus no, no, We're going
(35:07):
to pass sports, football, baseball down to the next generation,
the kids, and show them how the game is played properly.
But now we have a bigger thing at at stake.
Here is our country. But when it comes to politics,
people have to know the issues. Like look at New
York City. I lived in New York City twenty years ago.
Now I'm up in New Hampshire. This guy, man Damny
(35:28):
whatever his name, is damn New York. He's a product
of the sixty five Immigration Act that's kicking in and
the Third worlders have taken over New York City. They
want all their handouts. They don't care if he's gonna
get rid of the police departments, all just to get
rid of the welfare and the affirmative action. And to me, I.
Speaker 10 (35:46):
Always thought a billionaire like we didn't shore relationship with
munsk Why can't a billionaire come in and say, oh,
o'montani wants to get want the league lifed heroin, wants
the legal life prostitution, wants to get rid of the
police department.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
Why aren't they doing that? Why isn't there a twenty
thousand This is an north of year election. Really, twenty
thousand good Republicans could have come into the city and
be a ground game, and we don't have any. I
think the fixes in in New York City because the
establishment wants to buy the real estate at ten cents
on the dollar. They did it in the seventies, they
bought up Brooklyn.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
And okay, we're coming from there. Thank you for the call.
A wide variety of opinions there. Look, I think Mam
Donnie what do we say thirty six days until the
elections unless Curtis Lee what drops out and everybody goes
and supports Andrew Cuomo. I think Mom Donni's going to win,
and I don't think it's going to be particularly close.
(36:40):
And I don't really understand what Curtis lee Was position.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Is right now.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
If he wants Mom Donnie elected, he should do exactly
what he's doing now. If he wants Mam Donni to lose,
he should drop out of the race. More from the
White House next
Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
In hour number two Klay Travis buck Sexton show, we
are monitoring when there will be a press availability in
the White House with Benjamin nettan Yahoo.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
They are discussing Middle East peace.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
We have been following the Michigan church attack and Erica
Adams dropping out of the New York City's mayoral race,
as well as the James Comy charges fallout.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
A lot of news out there, and I.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Made some news that is starting to ricochet around the
political universe as well, just in the last few hours.
So let me kind of take you into an interview
that I did over the weekend. So I went down
for the Georgia Alabama game in Athens. Had an amazing
time hanging out and meeting many of you all over
(00:55):
the place. Congratulations to Alabama. Turns out they're still pretty
good at football. They beat Georgia Electric Environment Sandford Stadium.
It was fantastic. I did a couple of interviews longer form.
We may share some clips from them with Paul Feinbaum,
and that's what I'm talking about today. I also talked
(01:17):
with Senate candidate in Georgia Derek Dooley, who is a
friend of mine, former football coach running to try to
beat John Assoff in the competitive Georgia Senate race down there.
So we may have a couple of cuts for that
for you later in the week as well. But we
did two what I would say long form interviews. I
(01:37):
talked with Paul Finbaum for an hour. Now, some of
you are going to immediately know who Paul Feinbaum is.
He is a SEC Network ESPN analyst, longtime radio guy,
hosts a multi hour daily SEC Network show. If you
watch a ESPN at all, he's regularly on First Take
(02:00):
Stephen A.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Smith.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I've known Paul for twenty years. So I got started
in radio through writing in local Some of you been
listening to me since I did local sports talk radio
in my hometown of Nashville, and I was employed back
in the day on one oh four to five of
the Zone in Nashville doing a daily sports talk show.
(02:21):
And Paul was employed in Birmingham, Alabama, doing a daily
sports talk show as well, and we were both employed
by a company called Cumulus. They dominated sports talk in
Birmingham and dominated sports talk in Nashville. And so I've
known Paul for twenty years. Some of you listening to
me right now all over the state of Alabama. You've
(02:41):
heard me go on Fine Bomb Show back in the
day quite a lot. So we had a one hour
long sit down, and as part of that conversation, many
of you know because Tommy Tubberville, who's been on this
show a great number of times, is giving up his
Senate seat to run for governor of Alabama. There is
(03:01):
an open Senate seat in Alabama, and I'm truth be told.
Let mean just I'll just tell you everything. I have
had a lot of conversations with a lot of people
in Alabama about what's going to happen with that Senate See.
I talked to Bruce Pearl about it. A great deal.
Auburn men's basketball coach, Bruce Pearl, he's been on this program.
He's a great friend of mine. He really seriously thought
(03:25):
about running. He has stepped down as a college basketball
coach at Auburn. He's basically going to be now the
mayor of Auburn. He's not running. Paul told me that
he had had similar Paul feine mom conversations with Bruce
Pearl were all friends and he.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Wasn't going to run.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
If Bruce Pearl was going to run, but Bruce Pearl said,
you know what, I'm not going to do it. And
Paul and I had conversations and he said, hey, Clay,
I'm thinking about doing this. And I said, okay, well
let's kind of walk through it. And he said, what's
the best way that I could let people know that
I'm serious about this? And I said, well, how about
you sit down with me and we have a long
(04:04):
form discussion and we'll get into it. And that full
long form discussion is going to go up tomorrow. But Paul,
we are going to release a couple of clips. You'll
see me talking about it on Fox News with Will Caine.
This just came out. I think Paul's gonna run. This
is my opinion based on my conversations with him. He
(04:25):
could certainly change his mind, but I would encourage you
guys to go listen to the full conversation. But here
is the specific part about why now, why is Paul
Feinbaum thinking about giving up sports and going and running
for the Senate in Alabama?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Here was his answer, Well, you're sitting there talking to
Steven A.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Smith and as you're waiting for your return, you're thinking,
I wonder if I should move forward on this. So
it's it's a it's a it's been going on for
a couple of days or if not weeks, and it's
just hard to chisel it down to make an educated decision.
But to say I'm considering it, of course, yes, it's
(05:05):
something that I can't say I've dreamed about. I can't
say I've thought about it. I'm not a career politician
who had it all mapped out. This is just something
that just came to me. And it's also very late,
and I don't know quite how to deal with it.
But as far as your question, you know, would I
give up what I'm doing?
Speaker 5 (05:22):
I would.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
I would have to, Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
So the question in there was what is part of
the motivating factor? And maybe we can get a little
bit more of that clip, he said Charlie Kirk, And
I do think and you may have experienced this in
your own life, because I know how many of you
were impacted. I think a lot of people, no matter
(05:47):
what they do for a living.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
You could be a.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Sports talk radio show host at ESPN. You could be
a garbage truck driver in Spokane, Washington listening to us
right now. You could be a truck driver in Northern Virginia.
It really seriously made a lot of people contemplate what's
(06:12):
going on in the country and how all of us
could do more to try and make things better. And
I think that is one of the most motivating factors
for Paul Feinbaum right now. And I'll give you a
little bit of a preview of our conversation. Paul goes
(06:33):
around to college campuses for the SEC Network every weekend,
and he meets a lot of college kids because the
kids show up for the crowd at the events that
he does, and in talking with him, what he saw
happened to Charlie made it very hard for him to think,
(06:55):
I want to continue to just do sports for the
rest of my career. And I think the reason he
wanted to sit down with me is I made that
decision several years ago. COVID was my motivating factor. You
guys know, I still love sports. I still talk a
lot about sports. I think it's important to go to
where people are culturally and connect with them. So why
(07:17):
I still do a lot of sports Because I think
you can really connect with people in speaking their common
language where they are, as opposed to trying to drag
everybody into politics all the time, and I made that decision.
I feel fortunate to have the boss, Julie Talbot that
we do, because she really got me by saying, you
(07:41):
could do sports talk radio for the rest of your
life and not have the impact that you would have
in six months of doing this show that we do now.
And so if you really and I do care desperately
about the direction of the country, and you care about
the world that your kids are coming into, then you
have to say yes to this opportunity.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I didn't seek it.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Out, and I think that's what Paul now was finding
and working through in his head in the wake of
what happened to Charlie Kirk. And I really do believe
that he's going to run and I think he's going
to win. And I asked him in the interview because
there's always the skepticism, Okay, are you just doing this
(08:26):
to get more money? Are you just doing this for
the attention that it's going to create? And I've known
Paul for twenty years. I don't think he is. I
think he legitimately feels like there are serious things in
life that picking the winner of college football games, while
it's fun, is the toy chest of life, and he's
(08:48):
concerned about the trajectory of the country. And I think
he loves the people of Alabama. And so again, as
we kind of work through this, this thing is going
to land like a new baumb I'm just gonna be
honest with you, because a little bit later today we're
going to release a clip where Paul says, hey, Disney
(09:10):
would not let me interview President Trump. He was all
set up to interview President Trump in twenty nineteen when
President Trump went to the LSU Alabama game Joe Burrow
against TUA for those of you who are sports fans,
and it was all set up. He was going to
go to the White House. He was going to sit
(09:30):
down with President Trump. And Disney said no, And I
asked him in the interview, I said, well, you know,
that's kind of interesting because they interviewed Barack Obama all
the time, and Paul said, yeah. They sent in Andy
Katz for those of you who remember, and Barack Obama
did a men's and women's basketball bracket every year from
(09:52):
the White House and he ESPN treated it as a
major news story. And so Paul was all set up
to sit down with President Trump to talk to him
about going to the big game between LSU and Alabama.
It is for most journalists, interviewing the President of the
United States is the apex of your career, one of
(10:15):
the moments that is why you do this. I'm gonna
be honest with you. If I had an interview set
up with the President of the United States of any party,
and somebody said to me, no, you can't do it,
I would lose it. And I think in the way,
(10:35):
and so Paul talks about that, and I think that's
going to land like a neutron bomb inside of Disney
because they're just dealing with the Jimmy Kimmel fall out.
Trump Paul Finbaum, I didn't know his politics. To be fair,
we did not talk about politics. I have tons of
friends that I just don't talk about politics at all with.
(11:00):
In fact, one of my high school buddies came out
for a drink with us after this interview, hung out
with us. He's a Kamala voter. He thinks I'm a
moron for my politics, but he's one of my best friends.
And so I have tons of people in my life
that I just don't sider. It's probably not a surprise.
Probably a lot of you do too. I don't sit
(11:21):
around minutely analyzing politics with I'll have a beer with anybody.
And I think Paul's the same way. And so I
didn't even know his politics. I'm gonna be honest with you.
So a lot of the people I do know because
they reach out to me and they say, hey, thanks
for saying I'm talking about people on air. Hey thanks
for saying this man, you're speaking for a lot of us.
I didn't know Paul was a Trump voter. I didn't
(11:41):
know he was a registered Republican. And I think he's
just fed up. I think he's just fed up with
the direction the culture is going. And the Charlie Kirk
was a crucible moment for him. Of as someone who
goes to college campuses every weekend and speak, sees and
speaks to so many of these young men young women.
What happened to Charlie was I think devastating to Paul
(12:05):
as it was devastating to many of you. And it
has him questioning some of his life choices and contemplating
what he wants the next chapter of his life to
be like. And I know many of you probably have
had those same thoughts in your mind. Like I said,
whether you're a FedEx truck delivery guy, a truck driver,
(12:26):
an ESPN television analyst, or just a mom and a
dad out there trying to raise kids to the best
of your ability. I feel like it has struck so
many of us and in a profound way. That's had
many people questioning a lot of their choices. I mean, heck,
some of you probably went to church who haven't been
to church in a long time, just because you felt
(12:47):
compelled to go in the wake of seeing that video,
just to try to do something, even it's a small thing,
to try to make the country a little bit better.
And I think there is an awakening that is going
on across the cultural landscape. And I think it's brave.
Frankly of Paul to come out as being a Trump
voter sounds crazy. I think he's the first on air
(13:08):
person at a ESPN who's currently employed by Disney to
ever come out and say, Hey, I'm a Trump voter,
and this is going to have major shockwaves. So I
wanted to share it with you. There are more of
these cuts coming, by the way, A lot of you
out there. Eight hundred two two eight A two. You
can react, but I wanted to make sure that we
that we played all that for you, and so we
(13:32):
will play a little bit more of that interview for
you potentially going forward. But I also think this is
the continuing fallout the legacy of what happened to Charlie Kirk,
which you could see on the campus at Penn State
where five thousand young people were wearing those freedom t
shirts in the crowd, And I think it's bringing a
lot of people off the sideline who might otherwise have
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been staying silent.
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Welcome back in, Clay, Travis, Buck Sexton show a lot
of reaction.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
I'm going to roll in.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Will continue to take your reactions to that, Paul finebaumb idea.
But where I would say it's significant. Let's say you're
out there and you say, hey, I don't care at all, Clay,
I don't care about sports. I haven't watched a sporting
event in twenty years. Probably some of you out there
in this world. You say Okay, why should I care
about this? I think what it's emblematic of is a
(15:51):
lot of people are coming off the sidelines. And I
hoped that we would see this where they had that
amazing turning point rally and event and memorial service.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Eight days ago.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
And I think that you are starting to see an
awakening out there from people who thought, Hey, you know what,
I'll just stay quiet. Hey, you know what, I'll just
stay silent. I've got my private beliefs, but I don't
want to rock the boat. See, left wingers never had
to worry about this.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
If you're a left.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Wing, you're out there with your opinions, you're pirouetting, cartwheeling
because the culture at large supports you. There are almost
no consequences for being left wing. It's almost been impossible
for you to be too far left wing. The culture
just embraces you, it encourages you, it promotes you. And so,
(16:54):
as a result, and a lot of you are in
this camp who are listening to me right now, a
lot of you just stay quiet. You didn't click publish
on that Facebook post. You didn't go out there and
make your support necessarily publicly known for Trump. And by
the way, a lot of you did. But there are
(17:14):
certain jobs. Media is one. Sports media is certainly one.
I mean, think about this. Paul Feinbaum is the first
person employed at ESPN to ever say publicly he voted
for Trump. Think about how wild that is. That's what
the culture in place creates, is fear that if you
(17:38):
speak out, you are going to suffer consequences. You might
lose your job, your career is not going to be
the same. I think Paul speaking out is actually symptomatic
of what we're seeing nationwide in many different parts of
American life. I think Charlie Kirk's assassination has brought a
lot of people off the sidelines who just are saying
(17:59):
no more, or I'm not going to be quiet any longer.
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Clay Travis buck Sexton shows are assembled in the State
dining Room. No word on exact timing, but we could
get major announcements on the Middle East peace negotiations surrounding Gaza.
Some of the people attending Vice President Vance, Secretary Rubio Hegseeth,
(19:19):
Susie Wiles, Chief of Staff Steve Whitkoff, Jared Kushner who
have been involved in the negotiations. Again, Trump and net
Yahoo to potentially hold a joint news conference. We will
join that if it starts. Before that program gets underway.
(19:39):
Tony and Raleigh, Durham, North Carolina, listening to us on
one oh six point one FM talk radio.
Speaker 7 (19:45):
EE reacts Hey, Clay, glad to hear about Feinbaum. As
a Michigan and Jim Harbaugh fan. It hasn't been a
favorite personality of mine, but maybe I'll give him a
second look from now since he's going to possibly run
for office as a Republican.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
David in Birmingham, Alabama.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
By the way, this story now is everywhere New York Times,
Washington Post, Finebaum considering running here is David in Birmingham.
You've been listening known him for thirty years, as he says,
I mean he's lived in Alabama for much of his life,
recently moved back from Charlotte, North Carolina, where the SEC
(20:28):
network is located. What's your reaction as someone who has
listened to him for a long time, David.
Speaker 8 (20:35):
I think it's great, you know absolutely, I said. I've
known Paul years ago as a regular caller on his show.
You know, Paul can be very polarizing at times, especially
dependable whether the Alabama wins or Auburn wins or how
it goes, especially with him being a Tennessee fan. Tennessee
graduate also roll tied over this weekend. Thank you for that, But.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
I had to get that in.
Speaker 8 (20:57):
But no, I mean Paul, I mean he's very oh
but he's very big hearted about a lot of stuff.
He can be hard headed and obstinate, but I think
we need a lot more of that in Washington, in
the Senate. And you know, at the same time, you know,
I mean he's got the name recognition. I mean, it's
just you know, that's first I've heard of it, you know,
And I'm.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Real people, David, for people who are not aware, how
popular and well known would you say Paul Feinbaum is
in the state of Alabama.
Speaker 8 (21:26):
He would probably be in the top five or the
top five or ten in name recognition in the state,
no doubt.
Speaker 9 (21:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (21:34):
And I truly meant having been in politics and involved
what I understand. But he's well known. But like I
said it, really he can be very polarizing at times.
But you know, because you get these insane people, you know,
you know over in Day, Alabama and they've never been
to a football game in their life unless it's a
free a day game, you know.
Speaker 9 (21:51):
But you know, but top Paul, I mean, if you
really know.
Speaker 8 (21:55):
The guy and if he gets the word out right,
I mean, he can put the right message out.
Speaker 9 (22:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
He Sharks did a great job.
Speaker 8 (22:01):
Coach Tuberville did a great job, I think, and I
hate to lose him in the Senate, you know, but
if you replaced you know me mall governor mem that'd
be great too.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
You know.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Uh, it's just go ahead.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
No, I was just gonna say, I mean, I I
think it's going to turn into a huge story already
has all over the state of Alabama. It's gonna also
be uh sort of crescendoing around the country as well.
What else would you say? People should know? And then
I'm going to go to a couple of other callers
that are waiting.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
I think they just need to know that.
Speaker 8 (22:32):
You know, Paul was a lot smarter than just SEC football.
I mean, you know, he can listen to an issue
and look at both sides of an issue I think,
and tell you what he thinks and I think, and
what would be best for the for the state and
the nation, you know. I mean, and I truly believe that,
you know, And sometimes I have to bite my tongue
over things that you know, want to say something to him,
(22:52):
But I respect the hell out of.
Speaker 9 (22:54):
Him for that.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Yeah, thank you for the call. I will say this.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
When I started doing politics, people said, boy, you know
this is going to be really controversial. And I just said,
do you realize what it's like to pick a winner
between Alabama and Auburn, or Michigan or Ohio State, which
I've been doing for the last fifteen years. You pick
on a side that that other side doesn't like. I
gotta tell you it's way more contentious than what you
(23:19):
think about the tax rates. I'm just gonna tell you.
Like the heat of the political universe, I think Tommy
Tubervill would probably say, this is nothing compared to the
heat of the college football universe in the state of Alabama.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Eddie in Alabama, what you got for us?
Speaker 9 (23:37):
Hey, guys, do you recognize the name?
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Have you been a long time fine bomb caller?
Speaker 5 (23:46):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (23:46):
Well, not really call her, but I am the big
brother of Bobby and Donnie Allison and Davy Allison.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Oh cool, I didn't know your last name.
Speaker 9 (23:59):
Okay, Yeah, Paul is a good friend of mine. And
when I heard you guys talking about it, I wanted
to call you a bunch of times and just go.
I got to swing out in my backyard and my
radio over my head. I happened to be eighty nine
years old, and Buck. I grew up right where you're at. Man,
(24:20):
I lived the first twenty seven years of my life
in Miami, Florida.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Well, we appreciate you listening every single day. Would you
vote you're in Alabama now, would you vote for Paul Feinebaum.
Speaker 9 (24:33):
Oh definitely. He and I are very close. Matter of fact,
when Nil first broke, I called him and I said, Paul,
there's nobody in the whole organization that knows how to
do this and has enough brains to be able to
do it. And in the process, now we have lost
(24:56):
the best coach of college football. Less I mean, by
misfortune of my nephew getting killed. I end up in
the locker room at Alabama had practice every day for
ten years.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Oh wow.
Speaker 9 (25:15):
And I listened to them kids. And matter of fact,
I talked to Dabbo Dabos when he's a very good
friend mine, and I talked to him before the season charted.
I said, Dabo, this thing is ruined. And he said, well,
maybe the new rules will helped it, but they haven't.
You know, it's just sad that we have destroyed college football,
(25:37):
you know. But and the same well like I got
before me, we get we got the two best senators
in the whole United States in the state of Alabama.
And I hate to lose Tommy, but if to run,
I let him go up there and see what he
can do.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
So well, thank you for the call, and thank you
for listening, and enjoy that swing set out there, and
we hope we keep you entertained a little bit. It's
our eighty nine year old caller, one of them down
in Alabama. Let me play I had the team. I
want you to hear the full answer. This is what's
out there right now on Paul finebaumb in the Senate,
that is coming out of the interview that we did
over the weekend in Athens. Let me play this entire
(26:18):
clip for y'all. Here it is in its totality. This
is what we've released directly relating to the Senate.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
I had.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Received a text from someone who I knew that I'd
seen at an event, and it led to another conversation,
and ultimately one or two people in Washington had reached
out to me about whether I would be interested in politics,
something I had never thought about before, something I didn't
(26:52):
really think possible. I lived in Charlotte, North Carolina. Yeah,
I wasn't there wasn't a lane there to get yeah,
to get involved. But I gave some thought to it
as this weekend unfolded with Charlie and got a little
bit more interested, and yeah, there's there's an open Sorry
to cut you off, but there. Tommy Tuberville was running
(27:14):
for governor, a former Auburn coach who beat Alabama six
times in a row. And I think it's fair to
say he's gonna win pretty comfortably.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Seems to be the assessment. There's an open senate seat.
Bruce Pearl, also at Auburn, had talked about it. He says,
now he's not going to run. Is that with the conversation?
Are you somewhat interested and intrigued at the opportunity of
looking into that senate race? I'm assuming that's what they
reached out to you to talk to you about, Yes.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
And I was. I was hesitant at first because I
was very aware of Bruce's interests and huge fan of Bruce,
and I thought he would, you know, he would. He
would have a tremendous voice, So I was very cautious.
I didn't take it too seriously, and then ultimately I
ended up talking to someone who made it clear that
(28:04):
there was a desire for me to be involved. And
this person, obviously that's shower may name was. It was
compelling and compassionate in the approach to me, and I
started thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
This a person highly up in the Alabama political universe.
Is that fair to say that you're having the conversations
with Okay, so you're thinking about it now, how when
thinking about it?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
The next step? The steps?
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I mean, obviously I'm assuming that what people would say
is Paul Feinbaum has basically one hundred percent name recognition
in the state of Alabama.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Right, I don't think that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
You have the ability to obviously speak on television, You're
a good communicator. You've talked to the people of Alabama
for decades. Now, what's that timeframe look like for you?
So there are people who want you to run, you've
been struck. I mean, I think maybe it's fair to
say by the seriousness of things going on in the world.
You've had a lot of success in sports. Some people
would say, are you willing to give up? I mentioned
(29:03):
lead course, though, you could ride this thing out for
another twenty years and you could be in your nineties
saying goodbye to an.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
SEC football stadium.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I don't think that's a crazy, you know, trajectory that's
out there. But this other pathway is potentially beckoning or
intriguing to you.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
It is very intriguing.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
I am thinking about it constantly, and that's difficult to do, Clay,
as you're talking about college football. Yeah, twenty hours a
week debating Steven A. Smith.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
As you well know.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
I mean you're sitting there talking to Steven A. Smith
and as you're waiting for your turn, you're thinking, I
wonder if I should move forward on this. So it's
been going on for a couple of days or if
not weeks, and it's just hard to chisel it down
to make an educated decision, but to say I'm considering.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
It, of course, So of course he is, all right,
we'll go to break here. We'll continue to take your
reaction again. Also pending a live press conference potentially announcing
significant news as it pertains to the Middle East peace process.
As we come up on the two year anniversary of
(30:21):
the awful terror attacks by Hamas on October seventh of
twenty twenty three, this coming Sunday, you're going to see
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Speaker 6 (31:16):
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Speaker 2 (31:28):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. As we are rolling
through the program. We continue to wait Producer Ali. You
can come up any further information about when this Israel
Net and Yahoo and Trump press conference. The joint media
availability will be happening still standing by, so we will
(31:53):
go live. You told me Ali off the air that
there's all sorts of conflicting news stories out there about
exactly when he's going to come to the lectern.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Do we know any more? Now we're just getting another
word two pm.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Top shof PM, So in ten minutes, basically we're going
to have that presser. Okay, So we may well go
live to that presser here in the next hour again
with a lot of different news stories that are continuing
to break out there, this of course having to do
with Middle Eastern peace. But I did want to share
this because we may be going live to Trump and
(32:29):
we may not get the opportunity to share it. This
is pretty incredible. Jk Rowling, who I love. Jk Rowlling,
the Harry Potter author, has skyrocketed on my list of
people that I would like to go to dinner or
have a drink with, or just be able to hang
out with. She may now be in my top five,
(32:52):
and if I could interview anybody, She's moving up the
list in a hurry too, because I love how fearless
she has been. And we may not get into a
lot of this because we may have the live press
conference to go to. But she had a statement that
she put out surrounding I want to make sure I
get her name right this time, Emma Watson, who played
(33:12):
Hermiami Granger, and she posted this on Twitter, and I
just thought several of these lines are incredible.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
This is what she said.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
I'm not owned eternal agreement from any actor who once
played a character I created. The idea is as ludicrous
as me checking with the boss I had when I
was twenty one for what opinions I should hold these days.
Emma Watson and her co stars have every right to
embrace gender identity ideology. Such beliefs are legally protected, and
(33:49):
I wouldn't want to see any of them threatened with
loss of work or violence or death because of them. However,
Emma and Dan in particular have both made it over
the last few years they think our former professional association
gives them a particular right, nay obligation, to critique me
and my views in public. Years after they finished acting
(34:12):
in Potter, they continue to assume the role of de
facto spokespeople for the world I created. I'm going to
keep reading from this in the third hour but I
read it this morning and I told you I didn't
even need my crocket coffee because it was absolutely devastating
and so perfectly well said. We'll talk about it a
(34:33):
little bit in the third hour, but as we get
ready for that press conference, a lot of you wanting
to weigh in. Michael in New Hampshire, what do you
think about Fine baumb running for Senate?
Speaker 5 (34:45):
All right, Travis Boo twenty three, love your show, Love
Buck with that name Buck, he should be playing those
tackles for the Chiefs. I think Paul should throw his
hat into the arena. We need more people who are vocal,
who come up and talk the biggest issues because like
with sports, I always said to the guys who were
starting to lean away from sus no, no, We're going
(35:07):
to pass sports, football, baseball down to the next generation,
the kids, and show them how the game is played properly.
But now we have a bigger thing at at stake.
Here is our country. But when it comes to politics,
people have to know the issues. Like look at New
York City. I lived in New York City twenty years ago.
Now I'm up in New Hampshire. This guy, man Damny
(35:28):
whatever his name, is damn New York. He's a product
of the sixty five Immigration Act that's kicking in and
the Third worlders have taken over New York City. They
want all their handouts. They don't care if he's gonna
get rid of the police departments, all just to get
rid of the welfare and the affirmative action. And to me, I.
Speaker 10 (35:46):
Always thought a billionaire like we didn't shore relationship with
munsk Why can't a billionaire come in and say, oh,
o'montani wants to get want the league lifed heroin, wants
the legal life prostitution, wants to get rid of the
police department.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
Why aren't they doing that? Why isn't there a twenty
thousand This is an north of year election. Really, twenty
thousand good Republicans could have come into the city and
be a ground game, and we don't have any. I
think the fixes in in New York City because the
establishment wants to buy the real estate at ten cents
on the dollar. They did it in the seventies, they
bought up Brooklyn.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
And okay, we're coming from there. Thank you for the call.
A wide variety of opinions there. Look, I think Mam
Donnie what do we say thirty six days until the
elections unless Curtis Lee what drops out and everybody goes
and supports Andrew Cuomo. I think Mom Donni's going to win,
and I don't think it's going to be particularly close.
(36:40):
And I don't really understand what Curtis lee Was position.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Is right now.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
If he wants Mom Donnie elected, he should do exactly
what he's doing now. If he wants Mam Donni to lose,
he should drop out of the race. More from the
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