December 17, 2024 • 36 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in our number two Tuesday edition Clay Travis buck
Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.
We've been breaking down everything in the world of the
upcoming Trump administration, and we are joined now by our
good friend Bill O'Reilly. He's got a brand new column out,
got a brand new book on the New York Times
bestseller list. A lot going on in his world. And Bill,
(00:25):
let's start with this. You've known Trump for a while.
It seems like Trump right now is maybe the most confident,
comfortable version of Trump that we have ever seen. All
of the big tech CEOs are lining up, all the
big CEOs in general are lining up to come to
mar A Lago. There seems to be very limited resistance
(00:47):
to him. How would you assess Trump as a leader
compared to how you have seen him in the past?
And do you agree that he feels incredibly comfortable as
he prepares to step into the role of president again
next month.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Well, he won, and it's all about winning. So he
not only did he did Kamala Harris, he defeated the
Democratic Party, he defeated the corrupt media, he defeated the
midgets overseas are you allowed to say midgets.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
The word we're bringing it back, We're bringing it back.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Be fair, Bill, You got to be careful as a
guy who's like six ' nine. You know, I'm not
sure what qualifies, but keep going.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, I'm saying mental midgets, but the word midget, you
don't hear it anymore anyway. I don't want to be offensive,
you know me, I'd like everybody to be woke. But
he won across the board. That he ran the table,
as they say in billiards, And so the surprise is
(01:51):
that he's not gloating per se. And I have to
amend that by saying I've known him in thirty five years.
Can you imagine that thirty five years? And when he
was with me, like going to the nickname and the
matter of Yankee games, I never saw him bloat ever.
But he wasn't in politics. Then he's a business guy.
(02:13):
But he has a tendency to do two things. Get
angry and react emotionally from the anger, and then when
things go his way, he gets a little hoty. And
you did not you're absolutely crept in a press conference, yestery.
You did not see that. And I believe it's two reasons,
(02:37):
and I can't tell you anymore because they can't violate confidences.
But I know this to be true. He's looking to
his legacy now. He wants to do the best job
he could ever do, so he goes down in history
alongside people like Ronald reag and Teddy Roosevelt, modern presidents
who succeeded and so whether or not that does that
(03:02):
is affecting him day to day. I don't know. I'm
not around him, but I know that the ultimate goal
of Donald Trump now is to have a very successful
four years and conduct himself in a way that catapults
him into the history books.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Bill, you nailed what was going to happen in advance.
I think Clay might have been out that day. But
when we talked about Daniel Penny and the verdict coming,
I was concerned. You were sanguine about the fact that
this jury was going to see through it. There was
no wavering in your assessment. So I wanted to give
you full credit on that. But it seems that this
(03:38):
is clearly a turning of the tide in some way
when it comes to the way New Yorkers feel about
crime and criminal justice. Donald Trump invited Penny, as we
know Daniel Penny to attend the Army Navy game with him.
So this is a national level conversation that's happening. Do
you think that it is symbolic of a new director
(04:00):
perhaps for New York City? And do you think Eric Adams,
the Mayor of New York may play a role in this,
because he's been saying some interesting stuff now and we
know he's got the FEDS after him and Trump might
help him.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Eric Adams is done in New York. He's not going
to be the next mayor. There's a variety of reasons why.
I don't think he's a bad man, but he could
not reverse the horrible policies of build the Blasium, and
things actually got worse in the city under Adams' tenure.
(04:37):
Is New York changing a little bit? Manhattan is changing
a little bit, not as much as the suburbs and
the countryside and upstate New York. They're going red. But
the city is dominated by the Democratic machine all the
way back to Boss Tweed. And I think he had
a showing w R Boss Tweet did any way in
(05:00):
about thirty five years ago. Anyway, you know your New
York history he ran the city and Chester. Arthur became
president because of Tweed, and the machine still prevails in
the five boroughs, with the exception of Staten Island. This
that island's kind of independent. Anyway, there's a long winded
(05:21):
answer to say, no, the culture has not changed. The
far left culture that dominates Albany and Manhattan is still
in place. They are on the run because things are
so bad.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Bill so Buck and I were just talking an hour
one that the Trump resistance appears to have collapsed. Even
if you go back to twenty sixteen when he got elected,
there was almost immediately this idea of oh, we're going
to oppose him. We'll do the Women's March. Yeah, the
resistance was a big thing. I just saw where AOC
(05:58):
lost her bid to be elevated in the Democrat pantheon
of leadership. There doesn't even seem to be Yeah, Nancy
Pelosi got to win, even though I think she's in
a hospital in Europe right now, there doesn't seem to
be really even an adversary that is anywhere near on
the level of Trump in the Democrat Party right now.
(06:21):
How much can Trump get done and how quickly and
how much different are we looking at the situation in
twenty twenty five compared to twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Oh huge. In seventeen. Donald Trump didn't know what he
was doing, and he'll admit it. And he brought in
people like Rex to listen to me, Secretary of State
who couldn't possibly do the job. And what's his name
is Attorney General Sessions.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yeah, ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
They were ridiculous now and this is fascinating. And you
ask a very good question. The way that the Trump
administration is going to run for at least two years,
and I say too, because it depends how successful they are,
is exactly the way Franklin Delano Roosevelt ran his administrations.
(07:11):
And when I said that to Trump himself, I don't
think he knew that. And I said, look, he needed
to read Confronting the Presidents. I know you don't read
too many books. He saw the documentary on News Nation
Trump then when he discussed it extensively, but he read
the book. And I said, when Roosevelt came in and
the depression was just hammering everybody in the country, and
(07:32):
Herbert Ruver was one of the biggest failed presidents of
all timing. Guy had no clothe. So what Roosevelt did
was he hired his buddies from Harvard and Columbia Universities.
They had a little cabinet in the White House. They
didn't even have offices. These guys, they just showed up
at the White House. They made all the decisions, and
then the decisions came out from the White House into
(07:54):
the departments, and the department has executed those decisions. That's
exactly what the what's going to happen now, But it
didn't happen four years ago. There there were fiefdoms that
were making crazy decisions, and Trump was consulted, but he
was so overwhelmed by the whole scenario as any human
being would be with no political background whatsoever. Wasn't even
(08:18):
an intern for any political person. But Roosevelt ran that
government for four terms. Remember he's on four terms basically
by himself with his guys, and they said do this,
and people did it. And that's what's gonna happen now,
which is why Trump nominated all of these loyalists to him,
(08:40):
because they're not going to have any power at all none.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Bill Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I'm also wondering if you could tell us what you think,
if you had a ninety day and maybe the kind
of ninety second version of the ninety day plan, if
you will, a ninety day plan for Trump, because it
does feel like right now the opening. He's got the
pieces lined up around him, and the opening is bigger
than it has been. The mandate is more definitive than
(09:09):
it has been ever before for Trump to do big
things and get things done. What does the first ninety
days have to look like for the right tone, the
right accomplishments to be set.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Another good question, Zori. A deal in place for ceasefire
in Ukraine. I understand it's a backdoor deal. He's got
to get the hostages out, and Biden did not help
him Friday by allowing ten billion dollars to flow into
the Mulla's hands. He's the Mullas are the key to
(09:40):
get those hostages out. And Biden is such an idiot,
and I'm sorry, I'm sorry to be disrespectful, but he
is an idiot that he undermined the hostage released by
giving those savages in Iran that money. But anyway, Trump
is going to be able to tamp it down any Ukraine.
(10:01):
Don't know what's going to happen in the Middle East.
He's going to be able to seal up the border
very quickly. And if Claudia Schanbaum, the new president of Mexico,
doesn't cooperate, Trump can break her economy in two weeks.
Two weeks. That's why Justin Trudeau I tailed it down
to mar Alago because he doesn't want that to happen
in Canada. So the border will be solidified. Then they've
(10:23):
had to back hoe into all right, how are we
going to track down these criminal aliens? And my commentary is,
if anyone does not cooperate with you, a mister president,
you arrest them. Your pan BONDI put the head of
the FBI, which will probably be Cash Bettel, on a
plane to tell Lands in California, puts the handcuffs on
(10:47):
the governor if necessary, of that state, and you charge
and indict him. You do that one time, and that
whole sanctuary city collapses, Everything collapses. They're going to have
to do that. Maybe it'll wool in Boston, maybe to
the San Diego people, maybe to the LA people, But
that's what you do. And so I think that he's
(11:10):
got a feel to play that can be very very successful,
very quickly. But he has to be disciplined, and he
has to tell the American people what he's doing and
why he's doing it.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Bill, what do you think we should be aware of that?
Maybe we're not contemplating as we get closer to the inauguration.
Is there anything that you think is a dirty trick
that Democrats are going to play, anything that you think
Trump should be leery of, because again we're talking about
the fact that they really haven't been able to create
(11:47):
any sort of obstacle to him. Is there anything you're
expecting them to attempt early on.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
That he should be really on top of it.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
There's no leadership in the Democratic Party at all.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
None is no one in charge.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
So that's a huge advantage. Donald Trump has to watch
Robert Kennedy Jr. I don't think he's gonna make it okay,
So I'm sure he's got a backup for Kennedy because
he had a backup for Gates. I knew right away
the Gates wasn't gonna make it, and I said, man,
Pam BONDI will be And all of my commentary, by
(12:22):
the way, is on Bill O'Reilly dot com. That's where
we live, and you know we're ninety percent accurate. So
r K Junior's not gonna he's gonna get down. I
don't know about Highsmith. I don't know his other stuff
are swirling around there. But he hasn't got a fair
shot in the media. Hagg said, he's gonna have to
sell himself in to the Senator's Republican senators. It's a
(12:45):
tough sell. He has no experience and the Pentagon's the
largest corporation in the world. Tough sell. So Trump is
that's where his deficis if you want to call him
that lie. But the Democratic Party, hey, they got nothing
right now. They're on the run. They're collapsing. And if
Trump is successful, JD. Vanis is going to walk in
(13:08):
in four years.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
No doubt.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
All right, go to Bill One more for you, quick
one before you go. If you have to tell us
what your favorite Christmas movie is, no hedging. What is
your favorite Christmas movie?
Speaker 2 (13:23):
A Christmas Carol? Alice Stair Sims. I am the second
one in the series, by far, the best.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I'm adding into the list, wife and I gonna watch
it right after Diehard this weekend. Bill O'Reilly, everybody, go
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the holiday, Uncle Bill. Merry Christmas to you, sir, Thank
you as always for joining us. We always appreciate you
making the time.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Well. I hope you guys have a great Christmas, and
I want to tell you that I really appreciate you
guys having me on the program, and I thank you
very much for doing that.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Oh right back at you, Thank you so much. In
Merry Christmas.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
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die Hard? I think ever, you know who starred in
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(14:30):
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You know, Clay, I like to tell the truth to you,
holy and sometimes the truth gets you a little bit
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which my wife also had seen some of, because you know,
I think there have been an you season or two
before we teamed up, right, But so you said it's
(16:07):
really good.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
I started watching it. Kerry likes it.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
We watched it and Overall, I really enjoyed the show,
but a couple of things come to mind. One is,
what the heck is Kevin Costner doing not showing up
for the last six episodes to do a movie that
is so awful that he like isn't even releasing the
rest of it or something. There's like a series he
was doing. How did that happen? But then also did
(16:29):
the writers just you know, not show up? Like what
what happened here? Clay the finale? You i'll you could
give it, You're out of ten grade. I give it
a four. I give it a five. I wanted it
to be a lot better. I finished it last night.
It's the most popular television show out there. I feel
like it probably over indexes in this audience that is
a lot of you watch it.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
I wanted it to be good.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
I don't know what Kevin Costner's thinking walking away from
the final six episodes or whatever it was that he
could have otherwise filmed and gone out with a uh,
with a nice conclusion potentially, but.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
It was just thoroughly a mess.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
The final six episodes didn't make sense chronologically. They had
random music guests. You know, a show starting downhill when
they just have like random interludes where they're singers in
a drama show, remember like Beverly Hills nine two and oh.
Every now and then in the late they started like
the peach Pit after dark and they started having all
the bands, and you're like, they don't even know what
(17:28):
to do anymore.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
They just put a band on. It jumped the shark.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yes, just like the Fons jumping a shark in the
Happy Days. It jumped the shark. And it was a
shame because there was so much good stuff in it.
I mean, it was never a realistic show, but it
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Speaking of IOUs, ABC News o's Donald Trump a lot
of money buck and we mentioned this yesterday, but I
wanted to make sure that we hit on it again.
(19:43):
Fifteen million dollars from ABC News, including an additional one
million from George Stepanopolis, that is going to go to
the eventual Trump Library. Maybe there will be a fake
news wing funded by ABC News. This is a big deal.
And we told you that Stephanopoulos was in a tough
spot because he said something that was clearly untrue. He
(20:07):
said that Trump had been adjudicated to be responsible in
a civil context for rape. That's actually not true at all.
He was found libel for sexual assault. He was actually
found not libel for rape at all. And there's a
difference obviously in the statute in New York and the
whole case. In my opinion, is garbage, but it is representative.
(20:32):
I think of the degree to which so many media
out there have played loose with the facts when it
comes to Trump, and now ABC and Stephanopolis are being
held accountable for it. And Trump has followed this up,
Buck by filing all sorts of additional lawsuits.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
It's like when you win.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
If you walked into a casino and you won on
the roulette wheel and you just got tons of cash
in your pocket, or maybe you just hit the crafts
table and you made a nice win early and you
feel like, hey, I might as well put some more.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Money out on the table.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
He's now filing lawsuits on a variety of different fronts.
I don't think any of those are as likely to
pan out as this one was. But this was scheduled
to go to deposition, and it's basically ABC News, which
is owned by Disney, bending the knee and acknowledging that
Stepanoblis screwed up here in a big way. And Stephanopolis
(21:25):
canceled his Twitter account Buck and basically left social media,
which suggests to me that this was not his choice.
And his boss has said, hey, you're doing this, buddy,
and it's a big win for Trump. You know, I
think that this was also motivated by personal disdain, as
in Stephanopolis had to know that what he was saying.
(21:47):
I mean, I know, we could say all the you know,
the fake news, they're idiots, they don't know anything. He
pays enough attention. He's not a low IQ guy or
not very low IQ. He knew that Trump wasn't actually
found guilty of rape. But I think he wanted to
say it because he hates Trump, you know what I mean.
And I think the media has gotten used to doing
that when it comes to Trump. They will say, they'll
(22:09):
call him a fascist, they'll call him a rapist, they'll
call him a in all these different things, and it's
just their way of venting their spleen at Donald Trump.
And I think that that's what pushed the error this time.
That's I don't think this will that's your thesis. You
think that he knew he was wrong and he just
exaggerated for his own intent.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Just because he hates him so much.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
When I say, when I say new, I think that
he just jumped at the opportunity to say the meanest
thing possible or the most demeaning thing possible about Trump.
Without the usual I'm on TV representing a corporation, a network.
I can't lie about people that you would have right
because it was Trump, it was in Anything Goes, And
he hates him because this was just obviously beyond what
(22:55):
you can say legally without consequence. Yeah, I think think
he probably my I can see that argument.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
I think he definitely hates Trump.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I think he just didn't recognize the difference between sexual
assault and rape in the context of a civil lawsuit. Well,
that would mean he didn't do his homework, and he's
kind of an idiot. You really think he didn't do
his homework, It is an idiot. I think he just
wanted to say it about Trump because he hates Trump
so much. I think he dislikes Trump, and so he's
likely to make those accusations. I think a lot of
(23:28):
people conflate those two because sexual assault is sometimes rape,
but there is a difference between the two. And I
saw everyone in media saying Trump is a rapist because
they so desperately wanted to say Trump is a racist.
Buck a rapist and a racist. I don't think that
they actually most of these people read or look at
(23:52):
the actual court decisions. A lot of times you can
tell who's commenting on the coverage as opposed to commenting
on the news itself.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
I think he was lazy here. I don't think he's
a dumb guy. I think he was just lazy.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
And remember this was when he was interviewing Nancy Mace
and I think he wanted to embarrass her. I think
he doesn't like her too, because remember he specifically hit her.
The way this whole thing started was he said, how
can you support Trump when you are a survivor of rape?
Which is a really I mean aggressive line of questioning. Yeah,
(24:27):
so that's when George is a nasty little man. I
mean that's part of this too. He's a nasty little fellow.
You know, he's like an evil hobbit, a bad one.
Or remember also, we had this discussion about Stephanoppolis. Do
you remember when he got caught on the street asked
whether he thought Biden was capable of being president of
the United States and he had to publicly apologize. Remember
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he was just walking on the street, and we said, hey,
was this intentional? Did he know that this video is
going to go out because it's just a guy walking
with him, Like, hey, you you seen Biden, do you
think he's capable of being president? And actually went viral
and he was honest there in a way that he's
not typically honest on his own radio program, and we debated, Hey,
was this intentional? Did he want to send this message?
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Did he know that it might get out? I think
he's just a little bit sloppy, And I think you know,
when Trump calls him slopp Adopolis, I think is actually
pretty funny. Is that a top ten Trump nickname? Is
that a tip top ten slap Adopolis?
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Maybe?
Speaker 1 (25:24):
I mean you go top five. I mean that's really funny.
I mean I think Pocahontas is number one on my
Trump nickname list. I mean Elizabeth Warren as Pocahontas. I
don't think he'll ever Sleepy Joe was powerful, though Sleepy
Joe Well in Crooked Hill are work. But just in
terms of that that is powerful in terms of it
is an accurate reflection I think of those guys, but
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just in terms of humor, calling Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas because
she claimed to be a Native American and what did
they brag? She was like one one, twenty eighth or
whatever it was Native American.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
He was less.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
I just remember for my twenty three meters, she was
less Native American than I am than most Americans are, yes, right,
And that's not saying very much because I think she was.
She was at the lower end of Americans and their
Native Americans low energy. Jeb was also was also that
works well, that was very that was very powerful of
the moment well, and Jeb set himself up for that
(26:19):
by having Remember his campaign was Jeb with the exclamation right,
but there was also the where he was talking to
a crowd of people and he went to them he
was like, please clap. Wasn't what I mean, the idea
of Jeb with the exclamation point. I don't know if
anybody was like, hey, maybe we don't need the exclamation point,
because he kind of sets yourself up for it when
(26:40):
you're trying to be like Jeb, you know, you're super
excited about it. But yeah, I think Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas.
I don't think he'll ever top that one. I mean,
that is a all time nickname. And it just was
important too because Clay once, the President of the United States,
said that it opened it up where because I think
a lot of people would have they would have tried
to do what they always do where they they will say, oh,
(27:02):
you can't you can't say that's racist. You can't say
that about her, to get everyone to kind of, you know,
excise it from.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
The culture and the conversation.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
When the President of the United States calls someone something,
I think it means that, you know, people on TV
can say it too, because this is what the president's saying,
because otherwise they would have said, how dare you You're
that's demeaning to Native Americans. Of course, it's not demeaning
to Native Americans. It demeaning to Elizabeth Warren who was
faking being a Native American and they tried to brag
when she was one one thousandth Native American. They put
(27:36):
out a press release I actually really Native, and a
lot of media went with it. They were like, I
with there the CNN PR guy. They had this guy,
you know, it was kind of a sad job going
around like argue that he wasn't on air, but he
would argue with people. And I was making fun of
them because I watched that in real time. He's like,
you don't even watch our coverage? And I started putting
like quotes. I'm like, oh, I watched it, buddy, because
(27:58):
they tried to do this thing of like it turns
that Elizabeth Warren is one four thousandth native American. All
of the haters CNN if you, I wish we could
maybe find it. The initial hour of coverage on Elizabeth
Warren's is one of the funniest things at all time
because clearly Jeff Zucker, another nasty little fellow, another evil
(28:19):
little fellow, Jeff Zucker, had put the word out that
everyone had to go and back Elizabeth Warren on this thing.
And it was preposterous. It was preposterous, and they got
laughed out of the room. And that's just the evidence
I think of the degree to which whatever argument is
put out there, at least initially, they will take. Remember
(28:40):
when Kamala got upgraded to the nominee, and remember what
the first thing they decided that they were going to
try to clear up. They claimed that she had never
been the Borders Are. Remember they put out a statement saying,
that's a flaw of the coverage. She was never actually
the Borders are, that's not a job really existed. And
(29:01):
they got a lot of media to issue corrections and say, oh,
you know what, this was an inaccuracy simply by writing
about it and putting out that press release.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
These were things.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
These were tactics, though, Clay, that I believe would have
even a couple of election cycles ago, or maybe the
last election cycle, even before this one, they would have
worked much better. The media landscape has changed, so some
of these things that we can laugh at now, For example,
Kamala Harris not doing any media and then turning around
(29:35):
and having her surrogates say that it's a lie that
she's not doing media. No, hold on a second, we
know that she's not doing it. Okay, because she's not,
and we're all observing. But you know, at a previous era,
the drum beat of the lie would have been so
consistent and so overwhelming that people would have just gone
along with it, say, no, she's doing media, she's just
(29:57):
taking her time or whatever. No, well, no, they were hiding, Clay.
They tried to run a presidential candidate that they were
hiding from the public. Yeah, well it worked in twenty twenty.
Now they had COVID to be able to They had COVID,
so they were trying to run the same playbook Yeah,
this time around a little bit different.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
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Speaker 1 (31:53):
I was I always say closing up shop because it
sounded like it, but no, I'd nice you just drinking
in some of those amazing Christmas tunes.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
There for a second, were enjoying that one.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
They got a few things we can we can dive
into here coming up play. And I'm also wondering if
anybody has any particularly good Christmas cocktail recommendations out there.
I did, do we have the pistata, We did have
the pistachio Martini. I don't even know are there, I
(32:25):
mean eggnog obviously is a staple. We've got an outkit
Christmas party going on a little bit tonight in Nashville.
It's not a big event, but but it'll be a
little bit fun.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Hopefully.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Eggnog for those of us who are trying to watch
the calories to try to get a little less.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Dad bought in advance of dadhood.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
So I'm raising my hand over here. Eggnog is prutal.
Eggnog is like it is like a milkshake with alcohol.
It's like an eggie milkshake with alcohol thrown into it. However,
I think it's deliciousness is definitely beyond question. It is
quite delicious.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Would say eggnog is a possibility.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Spiced cider for those who like that. To me or
I guess spiked spiced cider would be the way that
it goes. Can't miss on that one. I think that's
kind of a holiday classic. You put it in the
crystal bowl and a little ladle. No, he Clay is
making a face like I just like pulled out some
stem or cheesers.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
I've never had that. I don't I don't know why.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
You would drink something that you ordinarily would not drink
at a holiday party. Do you know what I mean,
like a Thanksgiving? My friend, what about tradition? We're not
communists here, Come on, Well, I don't know that there's
a dry That's what I'm saying. I don't know that
there's an eggnog. I guess is the closest thing to
a Christmas staple that otherwise you can't find anywhere else.
(33:44):
But I to your point, like, I don't think that
many people actually like eggnog, and I don't feel like
it's actually that widely available now at parties, Producer Greg
comes out with hot Toddy, which is something that whenever
I've had like a cold or or throat and for
some reason him out at a bar, which is not
a good idea. People have tried to make me drink.
(34:05):
I don't know of a hot toddy. Hot Toddy's kind
of a year round. Well, it's a cold weather drink,
for sure. I'm not sure people think of it as
a Christmas specific drink though.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
I would just.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Stick with the drinks that you know, and and and
I will say, I bet there's some incredible awkward holiday
party stories out there in this audience. Maybe we can
get into that on Thursday. On your final day of
the of the week. Oh, because I bet there's some
amazing ones.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Dune John. Do you know John lefev Is.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
He's the guy who started the Goldman Sachs Twitter account
and years ago. Do you remember that elevator the elevator,
not the real sorry, not the Golden Sacks actually looking,
but like the parody account GS elevator. I had him
on podcasts recently. Very sharp guy, very smart guy. Very
pro Trump guy too, by the way. And it was
interesting though, because he put out on X a list
(34:58):
of Chris like for the for the corporate audience, you know,
corporate America, people that work in offices, you know, the
office Christmas party phenomenon.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
He put out a list for dues and don'ts.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
It was a good list, I gotta say, which was
don't you don't don't arrive late to the office Christmas party.
Arrive on time for the office Christmas party. Don't have
more than two drinks at the office Christmas party. Talk
to the seniors early because they're gonna leave because the
more junior staff are going to stay and let loose
a little bit. And everybody knows that. So you know,
he had all these rules I gotta says it's good
(35:31):
because I may have been at one or two not
not to get a currently not the current to anyone
I work for, but back in the day, back when
I worked in the government, clay some office parties get
a little out of head Christmas time, get a little wild.
No doubt, I think they actually have gotten dialed back,
probably in the social media era, because people can lose
jobs over what happens at Christian I'm talking twenty years
(35:52):
ago working at the CIA, there were some office parties
going on, and I was like.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
WHOA.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
When we come back buck, By the way, Judge Merchand
is not going to toss the felonies against Trump. I
think we've been talking about this somewhat. What's the impact
of that? And then I'm going to hit you with
some data. They have looked at pet ownership as a
proxy for how you voted in the twenty twenty four
(36:19):
presidential election. I have a feeling our cat owning audience
is going to be unhappy with some of this data plays.
I think that might very well be the case. But
the data is fun, and I'm going to hit you
with that too. In the final hour of the program,
we'll take some of your calls eight hundred and two
two eight eight two and yeah, cat ladies out there,
(36:43):
you and the white dudes for Harris.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
You may be in the minority. We'll talk about it
here in a moment.
Welcome in our number two Tuesday edition Clay Travis buck
Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.
We've been breaking down everything in the world of the
upcoming Trump administration, and we are joined now by our
good friend Bill O'Reilly. He's got a brand new column out,
got a brand new book on the New York Times
bestseller list. A lot going on in his world. And Bill,
(00:25):
let's start with this. You've known Trump for a while.
It seems like Trump right now is maybe the most confident,
comfortable version of Trump that we have ever seen. All
of the big tech CEOs are lining up, all the
big CEOs in general are lining up to come to
mar A Lago. There seems to be very limited resistance
(00:47):
to him. How would you assess Trump as a leader
compared to how you have seen him in the past?
And do you agree that he feels incredibly comfortable as
he prepares to step into the role of president again
next month.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Well, he won, and it's all about winning. So he
not only did he did Kamala Harris, he defeated the
Democratic Party, he defeated the corrupt media, he defeated the
midgets overseas are you allowed to say midgets.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
The word we're bringing it back, We're bringing it back.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Be fair, Bill, You got to be careful as a
guy who's like six ' nine. You know, I'm not
sure what qualifies, but keep going.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, I'm saying mental midgets, but the word midget, you
don't hear it anymore anyway. I don't want to be offensive,
you know me, I'd like everybody to be woke. But
he won across the board. That he ran the table,
as they say in billiards, And so the surprise is
(01:51):
that he's not gloating per se. And I have to
amend that by saying I've known him in thirty five years.
Can you imagine that thirty five years? And when he
was with me, like going to the nickname and the
matter of Yankee games, I never saw him bloat ever.
But he wasn't in politics. Then he's a business guy.
(02:13):
But he has a tendency to do two things. Get
angry and react emotionally from the anger, and then when
things go his way, he gets a little hoty. And
you did not you're absolutely crept in a press conference, yestery.
You did not see that. And I believe it's two reasons,
(02:37):
and I can't tell you anymore because they can't violate confidences.
But I know this to be true. He's looking to
his legacy now. He wants to do the best job
he could ever do, so he goes down in history
alongside people like Ronald reag and Teddy Roosevelt, modern presidents
who succeeded and so whether or not that does that
(03:02):
is affecting him day to day. I don't know. I'm
not around him, but I know that the ultimate goal
of Donald Trump now is to have a very successful
four years and conduct himself in a way that catapults
him into the history books.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Bill, you nailed what was going to happen in advance.
I think Clay might have been out that day. But
when we talked about Daniel Penny and the verdict coming,
I was concerned. You were sanguine about the fact that
this jury was going to see through it. There was
no wavering in your assessment. So I wanted to give
you full credit on that. But it seems that this
(03:38):
is clearly a turning of the tide in some way
when it comes to the way New Yorkers feel about
crime and criminal justice. Donald Trump invited Penny, as we
know Daniel Penny to attend the Army Navy game with him.
So this is a national level conversation that's happening. Do
you think that it is symbolic of a new director
(04:00):
perhaps for New York City? And do you think Eric Adams,
the Mayor of New York may play a role in this,
because he's been saying some interesting stuff now and we
know he's got the FEDS after him and Trump might
help him.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Eric Adams is done in New York. He's not going
to be the next mayor. There's a variety of reasons why.
I don't think he's a bad man, but he could
not reverse the horrible policies of build the Blasium, and
things actually got worse in the city under Adams' tenure.
(04:37):
Is New York changing a little bit? Manhattan is changing
a little bit, not as much as the suburbs and
the countryside and upstate New York. They're going red. But
the city is dominated by the Democratic machine all the
way back to Boss Tweed. And I think he had
a showing w R Boss Tweet did any way in
(05:00):
about thirty five years ago. Anyway, you know your New
York history he ran the city and Chester. Arthur became
president because of Tweed, and the machine still prevails in
the five boroughs, with the exception of Staten Island. This
that island's kind of independent. Anyway, there's a long winded
(05:21):
answer to say, no, the culture has not changed. The
far left culture that dominates Albany and Manhattan is still
in place. They are on the run because things are
so bad.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Bill so Buck and I were just talking an hour
one that the Trump resistance appears to have collapsed. Even
if you go back to twenty sixteen when he got elected,
there was almost immediately this idea of oh, we're going
to oppose him. We'll do the Women's March. Yeah, the
resistance was a big thing. I just saw where AOC
(05:58):
lost her bid to be elevated in the Democrat pantheon
of leadership. There doesn't even seem to be Yeah, Nancy
Pelosi got to win, even though I think she's in
a hospital in Europe right now, there doesn't seem to
be really even an adversary that is anywhere near on
the level of Trump in the Democrat Party right now.
(06:21):
How much can Trump get done and how quickly and
how much different are we looking at the situation in
twenty twenty five compared to twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Oh huge. In seventeen. Donald Trump didn't know what he
was doing, and he'll admit it. And he brought in
people like Rex to listen to me, Secretary of State
who couldn't possibly do the job. And what's his name
is Attorney General Sessions.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yeah, ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
They were ridiculous now and this is fascinating. And you
ask a very good question. The way that the Trump
administration is going to run for at least two years,
and I say too, because it depends how successful they are,
is exactly the way Franklin Delano Roosevelt ran his administrations.
(07:11):
And when I said that to Trump himself, I don't
think he knew that. And I said, look, he needed
to read Confronting the Presidents. I know you don't read
too many books. He saw the documentary on News Nation
Trump then when he discussed it extensively, but he read
the book. And I said, when Roosevelt came in and
the depression was just hammering everybody in the country, and
(07:32):
Herbert Ruver was one of the biggest failed presidents of
all timing. Guy had no clothe. So what Roosevelt did
was he hired his buddies from Harvard and Columbia Universities.
They had a little cabinet in the White House. They
didn't even have offices. These guys, they just showed up
at the White House. They made all the decisions, and
then the decisions came out from the White House into
(07:54):
the departments, and the department has executed those decisions. That's
exactly what the what's going to happen now, But it
didn't happen four years ago. There there were fiefdoms that
were making crazy decisions, and Trump was consulted, but he
was so overwhelmed by the whole scenario as any human
being would be with no political background whatsoever. Wasn't even
(08:18):
an intern for any political person. But Roosevelt ran that
government for four terms. Remember he's on four terms basically
by himself with his guys, and they said do this,
and people did it. And that's what's gonna happen now,
which is why Trump nominated all of these loyalists to him,
(08:40):
because they're not going to have any power at all none.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Bill Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I'm also wondering if you could tell us what you think,
if you had a ninety day and maybe the kind
of ninety second version of the ninety day plan, if
you will, a ninety day plan for Trump, because it
does feel like right now the opening. He's got the
pieces lined up around him, and the opening is bigger
than it has been. The mandate is more definitive than
(09:09):
it has been ever before for Trump to do big
things and get things done. What does the first ninety
days have to look like for the right tone, the
right accomplishments to be set.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Another good question, Zori. A deal in place for ceasefire
in Ukraine. I understand it's a backdoor deal. He's got
to get the hostages out, and Biden did not help
him Friday by allowing ten billion dollars to flow into
the Mulla's hands. He's the Mullas are the key to
(09:40):
get those hostages out. And Biden is such an idiot,
and I'm sorry, I'm sorry to be disrespectful, but he
is an idiot that he undermined the hostage released by
giving those savages in Iran that money. But anyway, Trump
is going to be able to tamp it down any Ukraine.
(10:01):
Don't know what's going to happen in the Middle East.
He's going to be able to seal up the border
very quickly. And if Claudia Schanbaum, the new president of Mexico,
doesn't cooperate, Trump can break her economy in two weeks.
Two weeks. That's why Justin Trudeau I tailed it down
to mar Alago because he doesn't want that to happen
in Canada. So the border will be solidified. Then they've
(10:23):
had to back hoe into all right, how are we
going to track down these criminal aliens? And my commentary is,
if anyone does not cooperate with you, a mister president,
you arrest them. Your pan BONDI put the head of
the FBI, which will probably be Cash Bettel, on a
plane to tell Lands in California, puts the handcuffs on
(10:47):
the governor if necessary, of that state, and you charge
and indict him. You do that one time, and that
whole sanctuary city collapses, Everything collapses. They're going to have
to do that. Maybe it'll wool in Boston, maybe to
the San Diego people, maybe to the LA people, But
that's what you do. And so I think that he's
(11:10):
got a feel to play that can be very very successful,
very quickly. But he has to be disciplined, and he
has to tell the American people what he's doing and
why he's doing it.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Bill, what do you think we should be aware of that?
Maybe we're not contemplating as we get closer to the inauguration.
Is there anything that you think is a dirty trick
that Democrats are going to play, anything that you think
Trump should be leery of, because again we're talking about
the fact that they really haven't been able to create
(11:47):
any sort of obstacle to him. Is there anything you're
expecting them to attempt early on.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
That he should be really on top of it.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
There's no leadership in the Democratic Party at all.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
None is no one in charge.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
So that's a huge advantage. Donald Trump has to watch
Robert Kennedy Jr. I don't think he's gonna make it okay,
So I'm sure he's got a backup for Kennedy because
he had a backup for Gates. I knew right away
the Gates wasn't gonna make it, and I said, man,
Pam BONDI will be And all of my commentary, by
(12:22):
the way, is on Bill O'Reilly dot com. That's where
we live, and you know we're ninety percent accurate. So
r K Junior's not gonna he's gonna get down. I
don't know about Highsmith. I don't know his other stuff
are swirling around there. But he hasn't got a fair
shot in the media. Hagg said, he's gonna have to
sell himself in to the Senator's Republican senators. It's a
(12:45):
tough sell. He has no experience and the Pentagon's the
largest corporation in the world. Tough sell. So Trump is
that's where his deficis if you want to call him
that lie. But the Democratic Party, hey, they got nothing
right now. They're on the run. They're collapsing. And if
Trump is successful, JD. Vanis is going to walk in
(13:08):
in four years.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
No doubt.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
All right, go to Bill One more for you, quick
one before you go. If you have to tell us
what your favorite Christmas movie is, no hedging. What is
your favorite Christmas movie?
Speaker 2 (13:23):
A Christmas Carol? Alice Stair Sims. I am the second
one in the series, by far, the best.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I'm adding into the list, wife and I gonna watch
it right after Diehard this weekend. Bill O'Reilly, everybody, go
to Bill rally dot com doing great commentary there and
also confronting the President's latest best seller, great gift for
the holiday, Uncle Bill. Merry Christmas to you, sir, Thank
you as always for joining us. We always appreciate you
making the time.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Well. I hope you guys have a great Christmas, and
I want to tell you that I really appreciate you
guys having me on the program, and I thank you
very much for doing that.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Oh right back at you, Thank you so much. In
Merry Christmas.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Look, I got to clear something up, buck, as I
prepare to tell you about Chalk. Best R rated movie
is not die Hard. Best R rated action adventure movie
die Hard? I think ever, you know who starred in
that movie, Bruce Willis John McClain, maybe the highest testosterone
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he accomplished throughout the course of that entire movie, even
though he was a little bit jet lagged, having flown
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Speaker 3 (14:40):
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You know, Clay, I like to tell the truth to you,
holy and sometimes the truth gets you a little bit
of trouble. But you you turned me on to Yellowstone,
which my wife also had seen some of, because you know,
I think there have been an you season or two
before we teamed up, right, But so you said it's
(16:07):
really good.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
I started watching it. Kerry likes it.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
We watched it and Overall, I really enjoyed the show,
but a couple of things come to mind. One is,
what the heck is Kevin Costner doing not showing up
for the last six episodes to do a movie that
is so awful that he like isn't even releasing the
rest of it or something. There's like a series he
was doing. How did that happen? But then also did
(16:29):
the writers just you know, not show up? Like what
what happened here? Clay the finale? You i'll you could
give it, You're out of ten grade. I give it
a four. I give it a five. I wanted it
to be a lot better. I finished it last night.
It's the most popular television show out there. I feel
like it probably over indexes in this audience that is
a lot of you watch it.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
I wanted it to be good.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
I don't know what Kevin Costner's thinking walking away from
the final six episodes or whatever it was that he
could have otherwise filmed and gone out with a uh,
with a nice conclusion potentially, but.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
It was just thoroughly a mess.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
The final six episodes didn't make sense chronologically. They had
random music guests. You know, a show starting downhill when
they just have like random interludes where they're singers in
a drama show, remember like Beverly Hills nine two and oh.
Every now and then in the late they started like
the peach Pit after dark and they started having all
the bands, and you're like, they don't even know what
(17:28):
to do anymore.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
They just put a band on. It jumped the shark.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yes, just like the Fons jumping a shark in the
Happy Days. It jumped the shark. And it was a
shame because there was so much good stuff in it.
I mean, it was never a realistic show, but it
just sort of turned into I know some of you
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wanted to make sure that we hit on it again.
(19:43):
Fifteen million dollars from ABC News, including an additional one
million from George Stepanopolis, that is going to go to
the eventual Trump Library. Maybe there will be a fake
news wing funded by ABC News. This is a big deal.
And we told you that Stephanopoulos was in a tough
spot because he said something that was clearly untrue. He
(20:07):
said that Trump had been adjudicated to be responsible in
a civil context for rape. That's actually not true at all.
He was found libel for sexual assault. He was actually
found not libel for rape at all. And there's a
difference obviously in the statute in New York and the
whole case. In my opinion, is garbage, but it is representative.
(20:32):
I think of the degree to which so many media
out there have played loose with the facts when it
comes to Trump, and now ABC and Stephanopolis are being
held accountable for it. And Trump has followed this up,
Buck by filing all sorts of additional lawsuits.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
It's like when you win.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
If you walked into a casino and you won on
the roulette wheel and you just got tons of cash
in your pocket, or maybe you just hit the crafts
table and you made a nice win early and you
feel like, hey, I might as well put some more.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Money out on the table.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
He's now filing lawsuits on a variety of different fronts.
I don't think any of those are as likely to
pan out as this one was. But this was scheduled
to go to deposition, and it's basically ABC News, which
is owned by Disney, bending the knee and acknowledging that
Stepanoblis screwed up here in a big way. And Stephanopolis
(21:25):
canceled his Twitter account Buck and basically left social media,
which suggests to me that this was not his choice.
And his boss has said, hey, you're doing this, buddy,
and it's a big win for Trump. You know, I
think that this was also motivated by personal disdain, as
in Stephanopolis had to know that what he was saying.
(21:47):
I mean, I know, we could say all the you know,
the fake news, they're idiots, they don't know anything. He
pays enough attention. He's not a low IQ guy or
not very low IQ. He knew that Trump wasn't actually
found guilty of rape. But I think he wanted to
say it because he hates Trump, you know what I mean.
And I think the media has gotten used to doing
that when it comes to Trump. They will say, they'll
(22:09):
call him a fascist, they'll call him a rapist, they'll
call him a in all these different things, and it's
just their way of venting their spleen at Donald Trump.
And I think that that's what pushed the error this time.
That's I don't think this will that's your thesis. You
think that he knew he was wrong and he just
exaggerated for his own intent.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Just because he hates him so much.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
When I say, when I say new, I think that
he just jumped at the opportunity to say the meanest
thing possible or the most demeaning thing possible about Trump.
Without the usual I'm on TV representing a corporation, a network.
I can't lie about people that you would have right
because it was Trump, it was in Anything Goes, And
he hates him because this was just obviously beyond what
(22:55):
you can say legally without consequence. Yeah, I think think
he probably my I can see that argument.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
I think he definitely hates Trump.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I think he just didn't recognize the difference between sexual
assault and rape in the context of a civil lawsuit. Well,
that would mean he didn't do his homework, and he's
kind of an idiot. You really think he didn't do
his homework, It is an idiot. I think he just
wanted to say it about Trump because he hates Trump
so much. I think he dislikes Trump, and so he's
likely to make those accusations. I think a lot of
(23:28):
people conflate those two because sexual assault is sometimes rape,
but there is a difference between the two. And I
saw everyone in media saying Trump is a rapist because
they so desperately wanted to say Trump is a racist.
Buck a rapist and a racist. I don't think that
they actually most of these people read or look at
(23:52):
the actual court decisions. A lot of times you can
tell who's commenting on the coverage as opposed to commenting
on the news itself.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
I think he was lazy here. I don't think he's
a dumb guy. I think he was just lazy.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
And remember this was when he was interviewing Nancy Mace
and I think he wanted to embarrass her. I think
he doesn't like her too, because remember he specifically hit her.
The way this whole thing started was he said, how
can you support Trump when you are a survivor of rape?
Which is a really I mean aggressive line of questioning. Yeah,
(24:27):
so that's when George is a nasty little man. I
mean that's part of this too. He's a nasty little fellow.
You know, he's like an evil hobbit, a bad one.
Or remember also, we had this discussion about Stephanoppolis. Do
you remember when he got caught on the street asked
whether he thought Biden was capable of being president of
the United States and he had to publicly apologize. Remember
(24:48):
he was just walking on the street, and we said, hey,
was this intentional? Did he know that this video is
going to go out because it's just a guy walking
with him, Like, hey, you you seen Biden, do you
think he's capable of being president? And actually went viral
and he was honest there in a way that he's
not typically honest on his own radio program, and we debated, Hey,
was this intentional? Did he want to send this message?
(25:09):
Did he know that it might get out? I think
he's just a little bit sloppy, And I think you know,
when Trump calls him slopp Adopolis, I think is actually
pretty funny. Is that a top ten Trump nickname? Is
that a tip top ten slap Adopolis?
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Maybe?
Speaker 1 (25:24):
I mean you go top five. I mean that's really funny.
I mean I think Pocahontas is number one on my
Trump nickname list. I mean Elizabeth Warren as Pocahontas. I
don't think he'll ever Sleepy Joe was powerful, though Sleepy
Joe Well in Crooked Hill are work. But just in
terms of that that is powerful in terms of it
is an accurate reflection I think of those guys, but
(25:48):
just in terms of humor, calling Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas because
she claimed to be a Native American and what did
they brag? She was like one one, twenty eighth or
whatever it was Native American.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
He was less.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
I just remember for my twenty three meters, she was
less Native American than I am than most Americans are, yes, right,
And that's not saying very much because I think she was.
She was at the lower end of Americans and their
Native Americans low energy. Jeb was also was also that
works well, that was very that was very powerful of
the moment well, and Jeb set himself up for that
(26:19):
by having Remember his campaign was Jeb with the exclamation right,
but there was also the where he was talking to
a crowd of people and he went to them he
was like, please clap. Wasn't what I mean, the idea
of Jeb with the exclamation point. I don't know if
anybody was like, hey, maybe we don't need the exclamation point,
because he kind of sets yourself up for it when
(26:40):
you're trying to be like Jeb, you know, you're super
excited about it. But yeah, I think Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas.
I don't think he'll ever top that one. I mean,
that is a all time nickname. And it just was
important too because Clay once, the President of the United States,
said that it opened it up where because I think
a lot of people would have they would have tried
to do what they always do where they they will say, oh,
(27:02):
you can't you can't say that's racist. You can't say
that about her, to get everyone to kind of, you know,
excise it from.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
The culture and the conversation.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
When the President of the United States calls someone something,
I think it means that, you know, people on TV
can say it too, because this is what the president's saying,
because otherwise they would have said, how dare you You're
that's demeaning to Native Americans. Of course, it's not demeaning
to Native Americans. It demeaning to Elizabeth Warren who was
faking being a Native American and they tried to brag
when she was one one thousandth Native American. They put
(27:36):
out a press release I actually really Native, and a
lot of media went with it. They were like, I
with there the CNN PR guy. They had this guy,
you know, it was kind of a sad job going
around like argue that he wasn't on air, but he
would argue with people. And I was making fun of
them because I watched that in real time. He's like,
you don't even watch our coverage? And I started putting
like quotes. I'm like, oh, I watched it, buddy, because
(27:58):
they tried to do this thing of like it turns
that Elizabeth Warren is one four thousandth native American. All
of the haters CNN if you, I wish we could
maybe find it. The initial hour of coverage on Elizabeth
Warren's is one of the funniest things at all time
because clearly Jeff Zucker, another nasty little fellow, another evil
(28:19):
little fellow, Jeff Zucker, had put the word out that
everyone had to go and back Elizabeth Warren on this thing.
And it was preposterous. It was preposterous, and they got
laughed out of the room. And that's just the evidence
I think of the degree to which whatever argument is
put out there, at least initially, they will take. Remember
(28:40):
when Kamala got upgraded to the nominee, and remember what
the first thing they decided that they were going to
try to clear up. They claimed that she had never
been the Borders Are. Remember they put out a statement saying,
that's a flaw of the coverage. She was never actually
the Borders are, that's not a job really existed. And
(29:01):
they got a lot of media to issue corrections and say, oh,
you know what, this was an inaccuracy simply by writing
about it and putting out that press release.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
These were things.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
These were tactics, though, Clay, that I believe would have
even a couple of election cycles ago, or maybe the
last election cycle, even before this one, they would have
worked much better. The media landscape has changed, so some
of these things that we can laugh at now, For example,
Kamala Harris not doing any media and then turning around
(29:35):
and having her surrogates say that it's a lie that
she's not doing media. No, hold on a second, we
know that she's not doing it. Okay, because she's not,
and we're all observing. But you know, at a previous era,
the drum beat of the lie would have been so
consistent and so overwhelming that people would have just gone
along with it, say, no, she's doing media, she's just
(29:57):
taking her time or whatever. No, well, no, they were hiding, Clay.
They tried to run a presidential candidate that they were
hiding from the public. Yeah, well it worked in twenty twenty.
Now they had COVID to be able to They had COVID,
so they were trying to run the same playbook Yeah,
this time around a little bit different.
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Speaker 1 (31:53):
I was I always say closing up shop because it
sounded like it, but no, I'd nice you just drinking
in some of those amazing Christmas tunes.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
There for a second, were enjoying that one.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
They got a few things we can we can dive
into here coming up play. And I'm also wondering if
anybody has any particularly good Christmas cocktail recommendations out there.
I did, do we have the pistata, We did have
the pistachio Martini. I don't even know are there, I
(32:25):
mean eggnog obviously is a staple. We've got an outkit
Christmas party going on a little bit tonight in Nashville.
It's not a big event, but but it'll be a
little bit fun.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Hopefully.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Eggnog for those of us who are trying to watch
the calories to try to get a little less.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Dad bought in advance of dadhood.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
So I'm raising my hand over here. Eggnog is prutal.
Eggnog is like it is like a milkshake with alcohol.
It's like an eggie milkshake with alcohol thrown into it. However,
I think it's deliciousness is definitely beyond question. It is
quite delicious.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Would say eggnog is a possibility.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Spiced cider for those who like that. To me or
I guess spiked spiced cider would be the way that
it goes. Can't miss on that one. I think that's
kind of a holiday classic. You put it in the
crystal bowl and a little ladle. No, he Clay is
making a face like I just like pulled out some
stem or cheesers.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
I've never had that. I don't I don't know why.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
You would drink something that you ordinarily would not drink
at a holiday party. Do you know what I mean,
like a Thanksgiving? My friend, what about tradition? We're not
communists here, Come on, Well, I don't know that there's
a dry That's what I'm saying. I don't know that
there's an eggnog. I guess is the closest thing to
a Christmas staple that otherwise you can't find anywhere else.
(33:44):
But I to your point, like, I don't think that
many people actually like eggnog, and I don't feel like
it's actually that widely available now at parties, Producer Greg
comes out with hot Toddy, which is something that whenever
I've had like a cold or or throat and for
some reason him out at a bar, which is not
a good idea. People have tried to make me drink.
(34:05):
I don't know of a hot toddy. Hot Toddy's kind
of a year round. Well, it's a cold weather drink,
for sure. I'm not sure people think of it as
a Christmas specific drink though.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
I would just.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Stick with the drinks that you know, and and and
I will say, I bet there's some incredible awkward holiday
party stories out there in this audience. Maybe we can
get into that on Thursday. On your final day of
the of the week. Oh, because I bet there's some
amazing ones.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Dune John. Do you know John lefev Is.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
He's the guy who started the Goldman Sachs Twitter account
and years ago. Do you remember that elevator the elevator,
not the real sorry, not the Golden Sacks actually looking,
but like the parody account GS elevator. I had him
on podcasts recently. Very sharp guy, very smart guy. Very
pro Trump guy too, by the way. And it was
interesting though, because he put out on X a list
(34:58):
of Chris like for the for the corporate audience, you know,
corporate America, people that work in offices, you know, the
office Christmas party phenomenon.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
He put out a list for dues and don'ts.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
It was a good list, I gotta say, which was
don't you don't don't arrive late to the office Christmas party.
Arrive on time for the office Christmas party. Don't have
more than two drinks at the office Christmas party. Talk
to the seniors early because they're gonna leave because the
more junior staff are going to stay and let loose
a little bit. And everybody knows that. So you know,
he had all these rules I gotta says it's good
(35:31):
because I may have been at one or two not
not to get a currently not the current to anyone
I work for, but back in the day, back when
I worked in the government, clay some office parties get
a little out of head Christmas time, get a little wild.
No doubt, I think they actually have gotten dialed back,
probably in the social media era, because people can lose
jobs over what happens at Christian I'm talking twenty years
(35:52):
ago working at the CIA, there were some office parties
going on, and I was like.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
WHOA.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
When we come back buck, By the way, Judge Merchand
is not going to toss the felonies against Trump. I
think we've been talking about this somewhat. What's the impact
of that? And then I'm going to hit you with
some data. They have looked at pet ownership as a
proxy for how you voted in the twenty twenty four
(36:19):
presidential election. I have a feeling our cat owning audience
is going to be unhappy with some of this data plays.
I think that might very well be the case. But
the data is fun, and I'm going to hit you
with that too. In the final hour of the program,
we'll take some of your calls eight hundred and two
two eight eight two and yeah, cat ladies out there,
(36:43):
you and the white dudes for Harris.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
You may be in the minority. We'll talk about it
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