September 11, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show continues the deeply emotional coverage of the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, blending national mourning with urgent cultural and political analysis. This hour features a compelling interview with Bill O’Reilly, who joins the program to discuss the broader implications of Kirk’s death and the rise of political violence in America. O’Reilly connects the tragedy to themes from his newly released book Confronting Evil, arguing that the nation is entering a new era of moral decay and ideological extremism.
The hosts and O’Reilly explore how permissive justice systems, progressive ideologies, and corporate media platforms have contributed to a climate where political violence is not only tolerated but, in some cases, celebrated. They cite disturbing reactions from left-wing platforms like BlueSky and mainstream outlets such as MSNBC and Slate, where commentators and writers either downplayed the assassination or implied Kirk’s rhetoric was to blame. The show plays audio from MSNBC contributor Matthew Dowd, who was later fired for suggesting Kirk’s own words incited the violence against him.
Throughout the hour, Clay and Buck emphasize the spiritual and cultural dimensions of the tragedy, framing Kirk’s death as a terrorist act aimed at silencing conservative voices. They warn that this assassination marks a dangerous expansion of political violence beyond elected officials to influential communicators and thought leaders. The show also reveals new details from the FBI investigation, including the recovery of the murder weapon—a bolt-action rifle engraved with transgender and anti-fascist slogans—further confirming the ideological motive behind the attack.
The hosts reflect on the personal impact of Kirk’s death, especially on young Americans who saw him as a role model. Clay reflects on the personal impact of Kirk’s death, especially on young Americans who saw him as a role model. Clay reads an email from a father whose son was inspired by Kirk and now struggles to process the loss. Clay responds with a message of resilience, urging young people to be braver, stronger, and more committed to defending free speech and American values in the face of rising hostility.
This hour also touches on the role of media corporations like Disney, Comcast, and CBS in perpetuating divisive rhetoric, and calls for a cultural shift that confronts evil rather than enabling it. O’Reilly shares that he plans to speak with President Trump about the cultural crisis and the need for leadership in addressing the moral rot that led to Kirk’s assassination.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in everybody to Clay Travis en Buck Sexton Show.
It's a solemn day to day as we are memory
nine to eleven, and of course as we are also
remembering our friend Charlie Kirk who was killed by an
assassin's bullet yesterday, and a lot of us processing the grief,
feeling like we've woken up in a somewhat different and
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darker country today because of this terrible act.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
And we wanted to speak with our friend Bill O'Reilly.
You know him.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
He's a best selling author, he was on Box for
decades and Bill, honestly just wanted to give you an opportunity.
We were in shock yesterday. The news came down while
we were on the air at the very end of
the show, so we didn't know and we were all
hoping that the end result would be quite different.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Just wanted to you.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
You've seen a lot in your years speaking the truth
to the people about what's going on, but this is
a particularly awful day and wanted to let you speak
to everybody about how you're feeling.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Okay, well, I'm gonna tell the audience on a Clayan
book show the absolute truth. This was evil and that
word applies not only to the assassination of mister Kirk,
but what's happening in general in this country. So, as
you guys know, on Tuesday, my brand new book Confronting
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Evil was released, and I woke up on Wednesday to
see Putin firing missiles at Poland in an unbelievably dangerous situation,
and then a few hours later, Charlie Kirk is shot
to death in Utah. I did a lot of media
between those things and now, and one interviewer said, your
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book is haunting. The timing of your book is haunting
because I knew that we are entering a new age
of evil. And that's a point I made on News
Nation on television last night. Nineteen thirties, the world gravitated
toward evil in an enormous way that resulted in one
(02:13):
hundred million people being killed in World War Two. Now,
thanks to the United States, we defeated evil, and there
were others who helped us, but we were the primary motivator.
We're back now in an age where evil is on
the rise, and evil is what took Charlie Kirk's life.
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So I find myself in a very interesting position of
having written a book you know, we start these a
year in advance, predicting that bad things were going to occur,
and then see them occur the very week my book
is released. And the message in confronting evil is the
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reason this is happening is because many Americans and all
people all over the world are turning away. So you
turn away from evil, you're going to get more of it.
It is easier for miscreants to do their horrible deeds
now than it ever before in American history. Do you
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guys realize that it is easier to kill a fellow
human being in the United States than ever before because
of our promissive justice system and our progressive movement that
does not want to punish criminals and indeed encourages political violence.
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There are members of the progressive movement and they are
centered on MSNBC and the urban newspapers who are encouraging
political violence. We saw that yesterday, just one hour after
Charlie Kirk was shot, a man Matt you Doubt went
on MSNBC and said, you know, I might have been
Kurtzbault because of his opinions. Now he was fired because
(04:07):
MSNBC had to fire him. But is anybody surprised. Is
anybody surprised that that was said on ms NBC No,
Because we'll play Children of Hatred.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
We'll play some of that audio for you guys out there,
because I do think it's important for you to be
aware of what was said and has been said.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Bill O'Reilly with us? Now? What advice?
Speaker 4 (04:36):
One of the things obviously we're doing on the show
today is a form of collective healing and mourning because
so many people have been so deeply impacted, including us,
including you. What should we do because there's a lot
of people out there in your opinion, what is the
constructive path going forward in the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
It's an excellent question, and you're asking, so, mister Kirk's
death I think is going to lead to a renaissance
of a demand for justice. That's what I believe is
going to happen. But in order for that to happen,
you have to understand what is happening in this world
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right now. And that's why I wrote Confronting Evil, because
most people look away, they don't understand, they don't know
what happened. Every one of the fifteen miscreants profiled in Evil.
My book is relevant to today, as far back as
Caligula in the Roman Empire. It's all relevant to today.
(05:42):
But this is shocking, so disconcerting, so sad, the assassination
of a thirty one year old just exercising its freedom
of speech, with two young children and a wife. That
everybody is forced to pay attention. And now you have
to inform yourself, so you guys might know that. Earlier
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this week, on the launch of Confronting Evil, I made
a very bold statement that the Progressives, of course attacked.
My statement was, and if you live in New York
City and you vote for man Donni, you are committing
an act of evil. Doesn't mean you're an evil person.
It means that vote is evil because Mandanni has told you,
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just like Hitler did in the nineteen twenties. I'm not
comparing Hitler to Mandanni, but it's the same kind of
presentation of what they believe. Mandanni has told you he
does not want to imprison criminals. He will let out
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as many as he can. Well, that is going to
lead to more murder, more rape, more assault. He's not
hiding it. There's no two sides to it. He's said
it so you are voting for that if you pull
the lever for the man. And I'm saying to the
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American public, you have to stop that. You can't enable
these people in Charlotte, where the judge let this guy out,
knowing the man was violent, knowing he had beat up
his own sister, let him out to do what he
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did to that young woman on the bus. Every American
has got to say, no, we're not voting to that.
Judge should be removed. The fact that she isn't removed,
I think she will be. What are you doing in
North Carolina? What are you doing standing in Chicago's South Side?
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Twenty years twenty years of drug gangs mowing down poor
black citizens, and you object to a layer of protection
offered by the federal government to stop it or at
least mitigate it. You object to that? What the deuce
is going on? So Americans have got to get as
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angry as you, guys as me in order to make
Charlie Kirk's death a legacy play. So when people die
in this violent manner, it's something good can emerge that
prevents future deaths. That is very important.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Bill. Can I ask you the I don't think you're
on Blue Sky. I'm I'm.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
I felt obligated because I was going to talk about
this because I saw people saying, you will not believe
how much vile and just disgraceful celebration was going on
on this website, which is the it's like the left
wing lunatic version of X because they can't, you know,
control X anymore because of Elon. So there's this whole
(09:06):
place you just go. And Bill I was going through
it last night. Do you think Democrats and it was
as bad as everybody was saying. I can tell everybody
it was. It's horrific. Do you think that there is
any sense from some of the Democrats who matter, some
of the Democrats who have power within their party that
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there is something deeply spiritually psychologically wrong with the base
of their party? I mean, do you get that sense
that there's any accountability from within their side? Or is
this just going to be a both sides ism and
some people are going to celebrate it on their team
and other people are going to ignore it.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
How do you see that where we are right.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Now, only the mentally ill would celebrate the assassination of
Charlie Kirk. So these people who are doing that are
mentally ill. Whether they're danger to society, I don't know,
but that's the classification. One hundred percent of them fall into.
There's no excuse for that. Now on the Democratic Party front,
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you are seeing today a total retreat from Trumpet Hitler,
from MAGA or hub human beings. You're seeing one hundred
percent retreat because if you are on the hill or
in a state office, you are not going to be
(10:34):
able to survive by peddling hate in the wake of
Charlie Kirk's assassination. You will not be able to survive it. Okay,
they all know that. I mean the view today came
on and this is a very good example because everybody
knows what the view is, all right, And these are
radical left women. These are not thinkers. These are people
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who are in business to make the other side suffer.
All of them were lamenting the death of Charlie Kirk.
Predictable Disney would not tolerate it, and they saw what
happened in Matthew Doubt at MSNBC. What was Charlie Kirk
ever invited on a program?
Speaker 5 (11:17):
No?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Okay, no, we've talked.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
We've talked about this bill. It's one of the things
that I think Charlie did so well, Bill, and this
is something that I spend an inordinate amount of time
thinking about, is how do you cut through the noise
to make people hear arguments that are good and sound
that they otherwise would not have been exposed to. Because
(11:40):
this is one of the downsides in a huge way,
I think of the algorithmic culture we have built. They
only feed you things that they know you already like.
So it puts people into the into the atmosphere, into
the zeitgeist, only four things that they've already experienced.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
This is my old man take, Bill. I bet you'll
agree with this.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
The reason I love reading print newspapers is because I
come across stories that I otherwise would have never seen,
because the algorithm wouldn't have known that I might be
interested in that, And that hopefully opens my mind and
makes me better at analyzing arguments and stories than I
otherwise would be.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
How do you cut through?
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Because your point there, they wouldn't have him on the
view because his arguments are too good, and because some
people sitting in that audience might have said, well, wait
a minute, I've heard that this Charlie Kirk guy's a Nazi.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I've heard he's Hitler, but he's.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Actually a pretty reasonable dad. And some of his takes
I might not agree with them all. You shouldn't necessarily
agree with everything anybody says entirely. Some of his takes,
they might have opened the window too, and that's what
was happening on social media, and that's why they killed him.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
The corporations Disney, Comcast, CBS are partially responsible for the
rise in hatred in this country. I'm not going to
say the rise in evil, but the rise in hatred,
which feeds right into evil, and then evil feeds into violence.
The corporations to make money allowing people like Joy Behar
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and the others to pedal hate. Okay, they make money
from Colbert, although they say they lose money. Why was
he on for so long? That's all he did? Now
that is going to cease for a while. And my
book is a perfect example of if you want to
inform yourself about evil, if you really want to know
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what it is, do you read this book, and then
you will know, and then hopefully you yourself will start
to combat it in your own neighborhood, in your own family,
in your own state. Because that's what it will take
a shift in the culture, the American culture. You know,
(14:00):
I'm gonna I was invited by President Trump to Yankee
Stadium tonight. There's a reason that he invited me. This
isn't a social thing. I think it's about Putin, but
I'm not quite sure. But you guys know that I
have a pretty let's say, respectful relationship with mister Trump.
(14:22):
I know I'm going to be talking about this culture
situation because he brought it up yesterday in his over
office reaction to Charlie Kirk. And I'm going to hand
them the book. I'm going to say, Listen, you cannot
look away from evil. You got to deal with Putin.
You gotta deal with him. Now, you got to deal
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with the jihad Ron you already did? You already know
that evil? All right, you neutralize them, and now you
have to turn your attention to American culture to call
these people out. Enough's enough. I've had it. You guys
have had it. And Charlie Kirk is dead because of it.
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An evil person kills him and we are looking away
from evil.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
That's it, Bill, O'Reilly Confronting evil is the book Bill
appreciates you as always, sir, for the clarity and what
you stand for here now and always so thank you
for being with.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Us, Thanks for having me. Guys.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
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Speaker 2 (16:47):
It's the greatest news happening in America right now. That
is Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
As we're coming back from break, we're playing many of
Charlie's comments and we'll play Charlie was on with in November,
and I think you'll get a sense if you do
not have one of the Dad and Buck what I
saw from you. And we'll talk about this maybe a
little bit when we come back. This is the first
thing when I saw your reaction. Every dad and mom
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out there knows it. Your perspective on life changes immensely
when you become a parent, and so you're not just
thinking about yourself, which is normal, or your own parents
as a son, you're thinking about life going forward. And
I think for many people out there, the biggest challenge
of this when you really look at all of the
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story is the little kids.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
The kids.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeah, right away, that was what got me as soon
as I it do think it's got all of us.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
I don't know what to think or say. It's just
so terrible. Yeah, I think that is.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
And I think when we come back to talk about
the humanity of fatherhood and motherhood and to have young kids.
He's thirty one years old. We'll talk about that when
we come back. We've talked a lot. I've got a
ten year old. We don't want to give them a
cell phone, and we're trying to keep our kids off
social media outside of the realm until they get to
be fourteen, fifteen years old, get a little bit older.
(18:13):
And so we use rapid radios in the Travis household
to help stay in touch with our ten year old.
Want them to be able to run around in the neighborhood,
want them to be able to play games with his friends,
but also want to be able to get in touch
with him whenever we need to. And that's what rapid
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kids in your family that aren't old enough to have
cell phones yet, but you want them to be able
to communicate with you.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
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Speaker 4 (18:35):
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Speaker 2 (18:50):
Do it today, all, welcome back into playing Buck. We're
talking about.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
You all know what we're talking about, the.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Horrible assassination.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Our friend and a great American, a great patriot, and
an incredibly effective communicator and mobilizer of the youth toward constitutionalism,
toward God, toward so many things that we're just inspiring
(19:22):
and and we are are still falling closely as we're
discussing this with you. You know, there's multiple things going
on here. There's the processing of the grief. There's the
shock and just allowing that to course through all of
us as it did yesterday.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
You heard us.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
We were on the show as we found out in
real time that something bad had happened to Charlie. We
didn't know, you know, Clay, I just I think there
was a lot of There are a lot of us
who just thought, I mean, I would I will say
this is where my thoughts went initially because of what
happened to Trump.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
I just thought, you know that Charlie would like be fine.
I think, sorry, guys, No, the world that we have
entered and that we hope we dodged when Trump took
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a bullet to the year. If you go back and
listen to the Monday show that we did from Milwaukee,
we had the hope that maybe that had in some
way cleansed the soul of the nation in conjunction with
Trump's win.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
That's my hope.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
I'm an optimistic guy, and that the better angels of
Providence had looked down upon us. And I know that
Corey Combatoi lost his life, but that given the circumstances,
we had avoided cataclysm in the country when Trump was
not assassinated on live television and now Charlie was assassinated. Yeah,
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And so my reaction buck, I'll just tell you. I mean,
I sat down with my boys and they're old enough
to have this conversation, and I said, unfortunately, I think
this is going to happen more. I think the left
is not going to be sated with Charlie Kirk. They
are going to try to kill more of us. I'm
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just being honest with everybody's exact same thing I told
my boys, and I think one of the challenges of
acts such as these is they are directly determined to
try to terrify all of us. It is terrorism, and
he was killed for his political This was a terrorist
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Just to be clear, this was a terrorist act. We
say it was an assassination, but it was an assassination
in furtherance of terrorist action and ideology. They wanted to
silence Charlie Kirk because his arguments were so powerful and
having such an impact by killing him, But they also
wanted to send the message and I think that's why
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it's hit so profoundly. On some level. I think people expect, unfortunately,
that political figures may get shot at. I think what
they have done in attacking a Charlie Kirk didn't have
a political office. When you attack someone who is in
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the speech and opinion space, you are expanding the arena
of people that you're willing to attack, and they're sending
the message that if you have the wrong opinions and
you're effective at communicating them. We want to kill you,
and that's not going to end with Charlie Kirk. And
so I think it's something everybody else has to be
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braver and maybe more courageous than we think we may be,
in order so that his life is not lost in
vain and the things that he argued in favor of
are elevated to a platform even beyond where he could
have taken them by himself.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I know that's we have.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I don't think we have said this yet, Clay.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
We we had alluded to it.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
We know that they have a third thirty out six
both action rifle that they believe is the murder weapon.
That the FBI has that in their custody already. It
was a thirty out six Mauser bolt action rifle wrapped
in a towel in a wooded area. But the part
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of this we haven't discussed yet is, according to preliminary
sources reported here in the Wild and then New York
Post excuse me, the New York Post, the AMMO and
the AMMO and the rifle were engraved with quote transgender
and anti fascist ideology. So this was an ideological hit
when we.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Knew that before.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
But we just have further clarity on this. This is
this is what this is what this was all about.
It was what Charlie stood for. And hey, look this
is where And I don't mean to make this and
to take the focus in any other direction right now
other than just to point out you and I agree
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with Charlie on probably ninety nine percent of stuff. I
don't know, I can't remember the last time that I
could that, and on the big stuff, certainly ninety nine
percent of things, as does.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
You know Matt Walsh.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
And and and you know Ben Shapiro and and you
know Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck and you know, we
stand for the same things.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
And they killed Charlie for what he stood for. So
this feels deeply personal on many levels, you know this.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
This feels like, as you said, Clay, this this this
is not going to be the only time something like
this occurs, or at least they attempt something like this.
And the responses that you are seeing from democrats, from leftists, however,
somebody wants me to refer to them, I mean, just
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the people who hate Trump and the people who make
allowances or even just openly celebrate what happened to Charlie,
which is its just demonic.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
It's just the most demonic thing it is.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
I think we should play a couple of those because
we try to give people context and I don't want
like sometimes you can say, hey, that's a fringe thing,
and I think you're talking about blue Sky and some
of the There is twenty percent at least of Democrat
Party supporters that are doing cartwheels right now because Charlie
Kirk got assassinated at a free stel.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
This is I mean, I.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Didn't want to interrupt Bill o'reiley when he was with us,
and what he's saying is true. He says, well, anyone
who celebrates this is mentally ill.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Clay.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
It's an entire social media platform with thousands, thousands, tens
of I can't I can't even get the whole thing.
Everything I was seeing last night was Charlie Kirk. You
know what they were I don't want to say it.
You know what they were writing, you know, without me
even having to read them to you. You all understand.
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It's just it's monstrous. I mean, we can talk about it.
You you just tell tell everybody what Slaate just wrote.
Just to give an example of.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
This, yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
I mean, I'll give you two and then we'll play
the Matthew Dowd cut that MSNBC had. This was what
they were saying live on the air while we were
talking to all of you. Slate has a story. Slate
is the one of the mouthpieces of the left online
in America. Their headline is, the response to Charlie Kirk's
death on the right is pretty damn ominous. Let me
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repeat that. They have an entire article up. The response
to Charlie Kirk's death on the right is pretty damn ominous.
Here is the Atlantic buck headline Trump's dangerous response to
the Kirk assassination. Rather than condemning violence and calling for unity,
the President of the United States accused his political opposition
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of being accessed series to murder. And I have to
be so careful not to curse there, because they are
they caused this. I'm sorry, this is so self evident
to all of us. And if you doubt me, this
is Matthew Dowd on MSNBC. But while Charlie Kirk may
well have been in the hospital fighting for his life,
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and you know what he said, his words caused this.
Charlie Kirk did this to himself. This is what you
heard if you were watching MSNBC.
Speaker 5 (27:30):
We don't know any of the details of this that
we don't know if this was a supporter shooting their
gun off in celebration or so. We have no idea
about this. But following up what was just said, he's
been one of the most divisive, especially devisive younger figures
in this who is constantly sort of pushing this sort
of hate speech or sort of aimed at certain groups.
(27:52):
And I always go back to hateful thoughts lead to
hateful words, which then lead to hateful act And I
think that's the environment we're in that that people just
you can't stop with these sort of awful thoughts you
have and then saying these awful words and not expect
awful actions to take place.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
You can share your opinion, I mean, you expect to
get killed. That's what he said on MSNBC. He's he
says that this is true.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
He says that what happened to Charlie is because of
what Charlie stood for and who he was. That's that's
what the implication of what he's saying is, which is
just satanic. And before that, though you also heard him
say maybe it was a supporter celebratory gunfire.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
So this man is is who.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Is paid paid to give his opinion by a left
wing Democrats only watching network. He is an abject moron
on top of being monstrous when it comes to morality
and decency and what was going on there? A celebratory
gun How could someone say something so stupid? How could
(29:01):
someone be such a moron? But I think it goes
to how delusional and deluded a lot of the left
of Democrats. And again we're pulling people off of television
here who are paid to speak to. However, many people
are watching MSNBC these days, I don't know, but large
numbers of people across the country paid by may you
(29:21):
know NBC, which is owned by Comcast, paid by a
massive company, a massive you know, billions and billions of
dollar corporation. And they're saying stuff like this. Now, I
know you could say, well he's been fired. Yeah, he
thought though that this is what he was He thought
that this is what he was supposed to say to
that audience. That's why he said it. He thought that
he was doing his job there, because that's what MSNBC
(29:43):
actually is talking like and sounding like day in and
day out.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
That's one hundred percent right, It's one hundred percent correct.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
We'll go to break. We'll take some more of your reactions.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Talk back maybe the easiest way to get us today,
because it's hard to get through on the They fired,
by the way, MSNBC did Matthew Dowd for that clip
that we just played so such beyond the pale commentary
that even MSNBC was like, Hey, you embarrassed us. You
went too far. We shouldn't be saying live on the air. Hey,
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Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you
get your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton
Show Ali producer shared a email with us, and I
thought that I would share this with all of you.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Clay and Buck.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
I'm reaching out because my son, I won't say his name,
but know that we are talking to you. Help start
a Cape Cod chapter of Turning Point USA a couple
of years ago. He's home today, somewhat broken, trying to
process what happened. He's only twenty years old. My son's
been inspired by Charlie Kirk since he was a little kid.
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He now works for Leadership Institute, spends endless hours recruiting
students at colleges all over the Northeast. I want to
see if there's a way that you could possibly speak
to him today. I think good therapy for him would
be to speak about Charlie Kirk. He's alone in his
room right now, trying to think of a way to
help him get inspired, lift his spirits. Anything you can
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do would be greatly appreciated. So I don't want to
call this kid. I don't want to put him on
the talk to millions of people. But Buck, I think
you and I they can clip this and they can
share with him, and you're hearing my voice because I
think there's so many young kids out there, so many
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young boys that are lost, and Charlie was for them
a voice to help provide salvation to them. That's why
he connected so well with young men young boys. And
I know in my own household that just from talking
to my kids about the impact. My ninth grade son said, Dad,
(33:27):
we went in the locker room and the whole football
team was just crushed. My son, one of my sons
last night, when I was talking to him, said, do
you think Charlie's kids are going to grow up and
watch that video of him getting shot one day? What
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do you say to that? And so what I would say,
what I told them, and what I would tell that
kid is you have to be tougher than you think
you are. If you have to be braver then you
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think you are, and you are both, and so are
all of us. And I think for young kids in particular,
you may not have experienced. And I know for you, Buck,
(34:36):
I could see it in your eyes because this is
the first time something like this has happened since you
became a dad. Yeah, and it changes you in a
big way.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
But what I would say.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Is everybody has to lift up and be braver and
more courageous and stronger than you think you are. And
I think when you're a young kid, young boy, young girl,
you feel like you're fragile, and you aren't. You are
so much stronger than you think you are. And one
(35:15):
of the things with this whole toxic empathy universe is
we're telling kids, hey, you're weak. Words hurt you. You
need to be protected from the real world. That guy
who killed Charlie, he was weak. There was an open
(35:36):
mic right there. If you have the best argument in
the world. Charlie was providing you a voice to step
right up and tell him why he was wrong. And
instead of that, from two hundred yards away, you took
his life. For your young son, for so many young
people out there, and for a lot of us that
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are older too, we have to be braver. We have
to be more courageous, We have to be tougher than
we even think we are. And you cannot let people
who want to silence you win, ever that's what they want.
You have to stand up stronger than you've ever been before.
All of us do, your son, my son's, everybody's sons
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and daughters, and all of us two have to be
the rocks to allow them to stand up and be strong.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Amen, Clay, Let's take let's take calls in the next
let's come back.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Let's hear from all of you.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Our lines are open to We want to speak with
all of you, so please call in and if you're
getting a busy please wait your turn. If you want
to speak to us and everyone all around the country
about what happened, we'll get into it a few minutes here.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Thank you for being with us.
Welcome in everybody to Clay Travis en Buck Sexton Show.
It's a solemn day to day as we are memory
nine to eleven, and of course as we are also
remembering our friend Charlie Kirk who was killed by an
assassin's bullet yesterday, and a lot of us processing the grief,
feeling like we've woken up in a somewhat different and
(00:22):
darker country today because of this terrible act.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
And we wanted to speak with our friend Bill O'Reilly.
You know him.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
He's a best selling author, he was on Box for
decades and Bill, honestly just wanted to give you an opportunity.
We were in shock yesterday. The news came down while
we were on the air at the very end of
the show, so we didn't know and we were all
hoping that the end result would be quite different.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Just wanted to you.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
You've seen a lot in your years speaking the truth
to the people about what's going on, but this is
a particularly awful day and wanted to let you speak
to everybody about how you're feeling.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Okay, well, I'm gonna tell the audience on a Clayan
book show the absolute truth. This was evil and that
word applies not only to the assassination of mister Kirk,
but what's happening in general in this country. So, as
you guys know, on Tuesday, my brand new book Confronting
(01:27):
Evil was released, and I woke up on Wednesday to
see Putin firing missiles at Poland in an unbelievably dangerous situation,
and then a few hours later, Charlie Kirk is shot
to death in Utah. I did a lot of media
between those things and now, and one interviewer said, your
(01:52):
book is haunting. The timing of your book is haunting
because I knew that we are entering a new age
of evil. And that's a point I made on News
Nation on television last night. Nineteen thirties, the world gravitated
toward evil in an enormous way that resulted in one
(02:13):
hundred million people being killed in World War Two. Now,
thanks to the United States, we defeated evil, and there
were others who helped us, but we were the primary motivator.
We're back now in an age where evil is on
the rise, and evil is what took Charlie Kirk's life.
(02:35):
So I find myself in a very interesting position of
having written a book you know, we start these a
year in advance, predicting that bad things were going to occur,
and then see them occur the very week my book
is released. And the message in confronting evil is the
(02:58):
reason this is happening is because many Americans and all
people all over the world are turning away. So you
turn away from evil, you're going to get more of it.
It is easier for miscreants to do their horrible deeds
now than it ever before in American history. Do you
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guys realize that it is easier to kill a fellow
human being in the United States than ever before because
of our promissive justice system and our progressive movement that
does not want to punish criminals and indeed encourages political violence.
(03:44):
There are members of the progressive movement and they are
centered on MSNBC and the urban newspapers who are encouraging
political violence. We saw that yesterday, just one hour after
Charlie Kirk was shot, a man Matt you Doubt went
on MSNBC and said, you know, I might have been
Kurtzbault because of his opinions. Now he was fired because
(04:07):
MSNBC had to fire him. But is anybody surprised. Is
anybody surprised that that was said on ms NBC No,
Because we'll play Children of Hatred.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
We'll play some of that audio for you guys out there,
because I do think it's important for you to be
aware of what was said and has been said.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Bill O'Reilly with us? Now? What advice?
Speaker 4 (04:36):
One of the things obviously we're doing on the show
today is a form of collective healing and mourning because
so many people have been so deeply impacted, including us,
including you. What should we do because there's a lot
of people out there in your opinion, what is the
constructive path going forward in the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
It's an excellent question, and you're asking, so, mister Kirk's
death I think is going to lead to a renaissance
of a demand for justice. That's what I believe is
going to happen. But in order for that to happen,
you have to understand what is happening in this world
(05:20):
right now. And that's why I wrote Confronting Evil, because
most people look away, they don't understand, they don't know
what happened. Every one of the fifteen miscreants profiled in Evil.
My book is relevant to today, as far back as
Caligula in the Roman Empire. It's all relevant to today.
(05:42):
But this is shocking, so disconcerting, so sad, the assassination
of a thirty one year old just exercising its freedom
of speech, with two young children and a wife. That
everybody is forced to pay attention. And now you have
to inform yourself, so you guys might know that. Earlier
(06:07):
this week, on the launch of Confronting Evil, I made
a very bold statement that the Progressives, of course attacked.
My statement was, and if you live in New York
City and you vote for man Donni, you are committing
an act of evil. Doesn't mean you're an evil person.
It means that vote is evil because Mandanni has told you,
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just like Hitler did in the nineteen twenties. I'm not
comparing Hitler to Mandanni, but it's the same kind of
presentation of what they believe. Mandanni has told you he
does not want to imprison criminals. He will let out
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as many as he can. Well, that is going to
lead to more murder, more rape, more assault. He's not
hiding it. There's no two sides to it. He's said
it so you are voting for that if you pull
the lever for the man. And I'm saying to the
(07:13):
American public, you have to stop that. You can't enable
these people in Charlotte, where the judge let this guy out,
knowing the man was violent, knowing he had beat up
his own sister, let him out to do what he
(07:33):
did to that young woman on the bus. Every American
has got to say, no, we're not voting to that.
Judge should be removed. The fact that she isn't removed,
I think she will be. What are you doing in
North Carolina? What are you doing standing in Chicago's South Side?
(07:53):
Twenty years twenty years of drug gangs mowing down poor
black citizens, and you object to a layer of protection
offered by the federal government to stop it or at
least mitigate it. You object to that? What the deuce
is going on? So Americans have got to get as
(08:14):
angry as you, guys as me in order to make
Charlie Kirk's death a legacy play. So when people die
in this violent manner, it's something good can emerge that
prevents future deaths. That is very important.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Bill. Can I ask you the I don't think you're
on Blue Sky. I'm I'm.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
I felt obligated because I was going to talk about
this because I saw people saying, you will not believe
how much vile and just disgraceful celebration was going on
on this website, which is the it's like the left
wing lunatic version of X because they can't, you know,
control X anymore because of Elon. So there's this whole
(09:06):
place you just go. And Bill I was going through
it last night. Do you think Democrats and it was
as bad as everybody was saying. I can tell everybody
it was. It's horrific. Do you think that there is
any sense from some of the Democrats who matter, some
of the Democrats who have power within their party that
(09:28):
there is something deeply spiritually psychologically wrong with the base
of their party? I mean, do you get that sense
that there's any accountability from within their side? Or is
this just going to be a both sides ism and
some people are going to celebrate it on their team
and other people are going to ignore it.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
How do you see that where we are right.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Now, only the mentally ill would celebrate the assassination of
Charlie Kirk. So these people who are doing that are
mentally ill. Whether they're danger to society, I don't know,
but that's the classification. One hundred percent of them fall into.
There's no excuse for that. Now on the Democratic Party front,
(10:12):
you are seeing today a total retreat from Trumpet Hitler,
from MAGA or hub human beings. You're seeing one hundred
percent retreat because if you are on the hill or
in a state office, you are not going to be
(10:34):
able to survive by peddling hate in the wake of
Charlie Kirk's assassination. You will not be able to survive it. Okay,
they all know that. I mean the view today came
on and this is a very good example because everybody
knows what the view is, all right, And these are
radical left women. These are not thinkers. These are people
(10:56):
who are in business to make the other side suffer.
All of them were lamenting the death of Charlie Kirk.
Predictable Disney would not tolerate it, and they saw what
happened in Matthew Doubt at MSNBC. What was Charlie Kirk
ever invited on a program?
Speaker 5 (11:17):
No?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Okay, no, we've talked.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
We've talked about this bill. It's one of the things
that I think Charlie did so well, Bill, and this
is something that I spend an inordinate amount of time
thinking about, is how do you cut through the noise
to make people hear arguments that are good and sound
that they otherwise would not have been exposed to. Because
(11:40):
this is one of the downsides in a huge way,
I think of the algorithmic culture we have built. They
only feed you things that they know you already like.
So it puts people into the into the atmosphere, into
the zeitgeist, only four things that they've already experienced.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
This is my old man take, Bill. I bet you'll
agree with this.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
The reason I love reading print newspapers is because I
come across stories that I otherwise would have never seen,
because the algorithm wouldn't have known that I might be
interested in that, And that hopefully opens my mind and
makes me better at analyzing arguments and stories than I
otherwise would be.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
How do you cut through?
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Because your point there, they wouldn't have him on the
view because his arguments are too good, and because some
people sitting in that audience might have said, well, wait
a minute, I've heard that this Charlie Kirk guy's a Nazi.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I've heard he's Hitler, but he's.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Actually a pretty reasonable dad. And some of his takes
I might not agree with them all. You shouldn't necessarily
agree with everything anybody says entirely. Some of his takes,
they might have opened the window too, and that's what
was happening on social media, and that's why they killed him.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
The corporations Disney, Comcast, CBS are partially responsible for the
rise in hatred in this country. I'm not going to
say the rise in evil, but the rise in hatred,
which feeds right into evil, and then evil feeds into violence.
The corporations to make money allowing people like Joy Behar
(13:17):
and the others to pedal hate. Okay, they make money
from Colbert, although they say they lose money. Why was
he on for so long? That's all he did? Now
that is going to cease for a while. And my
book is a perfect example of if you want to
inform yourself about evil, if you really want to know
(13:39):
what it is, do you read this book, and then
you will know, and then hopefully you yourself will start
to combat it in your own neighborhood, in your own family,
in your own state. Because that's what it will take
a shift in the culture, the American culture. You know,
(14:00):
I'm gonna I was invited by President Trump to Yankee
Stadium tonight. There's a reason that he invited me. This
isn't a social thing. I think it's about Putin, but
I'm not quite sure. But you guys know that I
have a pretty let's say, respectful relationship with mister Trump.
(14:22):
I know I'm going to be talking about this culture
situation because he brought it up yesterday in his over
office reaction to Charlie Kirk. And I'm going to hand
them the book. I'm going to say, Listen, you cannot
look away from evil. You got to deal with Putin.
You gotta deal with him. Now, you got to deal
(14:43):
with the jihad Ron you already did? You already know
that evil? All right, you neutralize them, and now you
have to turn your attention to American culture to call
these people out. Enough's enough. I've had it. You guys
have had it. And Charlie Kirk is dead because of it.
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An evil person kills him and we are looking away
from evil.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
That's it, Bill, O'Reilly Confronting evil is the book Bill
appreciates you as always, sir, for the clarity and what
you stand for here now and always so thank you
for being with.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Us, Thanks for having me. Guys.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
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It's the greatest news happening in America right now. That
is Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
As we're coming back from break, we're playing many of
Charlie's comments and we'll play Charlie was on with in November,
and I think you'll get a sense if you do
not have one of the Dad and Buck what I
saw from you. And we'll talk about this maybe a
little bit when we come back. This is the first
thing when I saw your reaction. Every dad and mom
(17:16):
out there knows it. Your perspective on life changes immensely
when you become a parent, and so you're not just
thinking about yourself, which is normal, or your own parents
as a son, you're thinking about life going forward. And
I think for many people out there, the biggest challenge
of this when you really look at all of the
(17:37):
story is the little kids.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
The kids.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeah, right away, that was what got me as soon
as I it do think it's got all of us.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
I don't know what to think or say. It's just
so terrible. Yeah, I think that is.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
And I think when we come back to talk about
the humanity of fatherhood and motherhood and to have young kids.
He's thirty one years old. We'll talk about that when
we come back. We've talked a lot. I've got a
ten year old. We don't want to give them a
cell phone, and we're trying to keep our kids off
social media outside of the realm until they get to
be fourteen, fifteen years old, get a little bit older.
(18:13):
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Speaker 2 (18:50):
Do it today, all, welcome back into playing Buck. We're
talking about.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
You all know what we're talking about, the.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Horrible assassination.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Our friend and a great American, a great patriot, and
an incredibly effective communicator and mobilizer of the youth toward constitutionalism,
toward God, toward so many things that we're just inspiring
(19:22):
and and we are are still falling closely as we're
discussing this with you. You know, there's multiple things going
on here. There's the processing of the grief. There's the
shock and just allowing that to course through all of
us as it did yesterday.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
You heard us.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
We were on the show as we found out in
real time that something bad had happened to Charlie. We
didn't know, you know, Clay, I just I think there
was a lot of There are a lot of us
who just thought, I mean, I would I will say
this is where my thoughts went initially because of what
happened to Trump.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
I just thought, you know that Charlie would like be fine.
I think, sorry, guys, No, the world that we have
entered and that we hope we dodged when Trump took
(20:17):
a bullet to the year. If you go back and
listen to the Monday show that we did from Milwaukee,
we had the hope that maybe that had in some
way cleansed the soul of the nation in conjunction with
Trump's win.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
That's my hope.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
I'm an optimistic guy, and that the better angels of
Providence had looked down upon us. And I know that
Corey Combatoi lost his life, but that given the circumstances,
we had avoided cataclysm in the country when Trump was
not assassinated on live television and now Charlie was assassinated. Yeah,
(20:59):
And so my reaction buck, I'll just tell you. I mean,
I sat down with my boys and they're old enough
to have this conversation, and I said, unfortunately, I think
this is going to happen more. I think the left
is not going to be sated with Charlie Kirk. They
are going to try to kill more of us. I'm
(21:20):
just being honest with everybody's exact same thing I told
my boys, and I think one of the challenges of
acts such as these is they are directly determined to
try to terrify all of us. It is terrorism, and
he was killed for his political This was a terrorist
(21:41):
Just to be clear, this was a terrorist act. We
say it was an assassination, but it was an assassination
in furtherance of terrorist action and ideology. They wanted to
silence Charlie Kirk because his arguments were so powerful and
having such an impact by killing him, But they also
wanted to send the message and I think that's why
(22:03):
it's hit so profoundly. On some level. I think people expect, unfortunately,
that political figures may get shot at. I think what
they have done in attacking a Charlie Kirk didn't have
a political office. When you attack someone who is in
(22:23):
the speech and opinion space, you are expanding the arena
of people that you're willing to attack, and they're sending
the message that if you have the wrong opinions and
you're effective at communicating them. We want to kill you,
and that's not going to end with Charlie Kirk. And
so I think it's something everybody else has to be
(22:44):
braver and maybe more courageous than we think we may be,
in order so that his life is not lost in
vain and the things that he argued in favor of
are elevated to a platform even beyond where he could
have taken them by himself.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I know that's we have.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I don't think we have said this yet, Clay.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
We we had alluded to it.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
We know that they have a third thirty out six
both action rifle that they believe is the murder weapon.
That the FBI has that in their custody already. It
was a thirty out six Mauser bolt action rifle wrapped
in a towel in a wooded area. But the part
(23:27):
of this we haven't discussed yet is, according to preliminary
sources reported here in the Wild and then New York
Post excuse me, the New York Post, the AMMO and
the AMMO and the rifle were engraved with quote transgender
and anti fascist ideology. So this was an ideological hit
when we.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Knew that before.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
But we just have further clarity on this. This is
this is what this is what this was all about.
It was what Charlie stood for. And hey, look this
is where And I don't mean to make this and
to take the focus in any other direction right now
other than just to point out you and I agree
(24:10):
with Charlie on probably ninety nine percent of stuff. I
don't know, I can't remember the last time that I
could that, and on the big stuff, certainly ninety nine
percent of things, as does.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
You know Matt Walsh.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
And and and you know Ben Shapiro and and you
know Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck and you know, we
stand for the same things.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
And they killed Charlie for what he stood for. So
this feels deeply personal on many levels, you know this.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
This feels like, as you said, Clay, this this this
is not going to be the only time something like
this occurs, or at least they attempt something like this.
And the responses that you are seeing from democrats, from leftists, however,
somebody wants me to refer to them, I mean, just
(24:59):
the people who hate Trump and the people who make
allowances or even just openly celebrate what happened to Charlie,
which is its just demonic.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
It's just the most demonic thing it is.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
I think we should play a couple of those because
we try to give people context and I don't want
like sometimes you can say, hey, that's a fringe thing,
and I think you're talking about blue Sky and some
of the There is twenty percent at least of Democrat
Party supporters that are doing cartwheels right now because Charlie
Kirk got assassinated at a free stel.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
This is I mean, I.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Didn't want to interrupt Bill o'reiley when he was with us,
and what he's saying is true. He says, well, anyone
who celebrates this is mentally ill.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Clay.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
It's an entire social media platform with thousands, thousands, tens
of I can't I can't even get the whole thing.
Everything I was seeing last night was Charlie Kirk. You
know what they were I don't want to say it.
You know what they were writing, you know, without me
even having to read them to you. You all understand.
(26:02):
It's just it's monstrous. I mean, we can talk about it.
You you just tell tell everybody what Slaate just wrote.
Just to give an example of.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
This, yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
I mean, I'll give you two and then we'll play
the Matthew Dowd cut that MSNBC had. This was what
they were saying live on the air while we were
talking to all of you. Slate has a story. Slate
is the one of the mouthpieces of the left online
in America. Their headline is, the response to Charlie Kirk's
death on the right is pretty damn ominous. Let me
(26:35):
repeat that. They have an entire article up. The response
to Charlie Kirk's death on the right is pretty damn ominous.
Here is the Atlantic buck headline Trump's dangerous response to
the Kirk assassination. Rather than condemning violence and calling for unity,
the President of the United States accused his political opposition
(26:59):
of being accessed series to murder. And I have to
be so careful not to curse there, because they are
they caused this. I'm sorry, this is so self evident
to all of us. And if you doubt me, this
is Matthew Dowd on MSNBC. But while Charlie Kirk may
well have been in the hospital fighting for his life,
(27:20):
and you know what he said, his words caused this.
Charlie Kirk did this to himself. This is what you
heard if you were watching MSNBC.
Speaker 5 (27:30):
We don't know any of the details of this that
we don't know if this was a supporter shooting their
gun off in celebration or so. We have no idea
about this. But following up what was just said, he's
been one of the most divisive, especially devisive younger figures
in this who is constantly sort of pushing this sort
of hate speech or sort of aimed at certain groups.
(27:52):
And I always go back to hateful thoughts lead to
hateful words, which then lead to hateful act And I
think that's the environment we're in that that people just
you can't stop with these sort of awful thoughts you
have and then saying these awful words and not expect
awful actions to take place.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
You can share your opinion, I mean, you expect to
get killed. That's what he said on MSNBC. He's he
says that this is true.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
He says that what happened to Charlie is because of
what Charlie stood for and who he was. That's that's
what the implication of what he's saying is, which is
just satanic. And before that, though you also heard him
say maybe it was a supporter celebratory gunfire.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
So this man is is who.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Is paid paid to give his opinion by a left
wing Democrats only watching network. He is an abject moron
on top of being monstrous when it comes to morality
and decency and what was going on there? A celebratory
gun How could someone say something so stupid? How could
(29:01):
someone be such a moron? But I think it goes
to how delusional and deluded a lot of the left
of Democrats. And again we're pulling people off of television
here who are paid to speak to. However, many people
are watching MSNBC these days, I don't know, but large
numbers of people across the country paid by may you
(29:21):
know NBC, which is owned by Comcast, paid by a
massive company, a massive you know, billions and billions of
dollar corporation. And they're saying stuff like this. Now, I
know you could say, well he's been fired. Yeah, he
thought though that this is what he was He thought
that this is what he was supposed to say to
that audience. That's why he said it. He thought that
he was doing his job there, because that's what MSNBC
(29:43):
actually is talking like and sounding like day in and
day out.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
That's one hundred percent right, It's one hundred percent correct.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
We'll go to break. We'll take some more of your reactions.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Talk back maybe the easiest way to get us today,
because it's hard to get through on the They fired,
by the way, MSNBC did Matthew Dowd for that clip
that we just played so such beyond the pale commentary
that even MSNBC was like, Hey, you embarrassed us. You
went too far. We shouldn't be saying live on the air. Hey,
(30:16):
if you have the wrong opinion, you kind of created
the situation where you should get shot for this. I
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Show Ali producer shared a email with us, and I
thought that I would share this with all of you.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Clay and Buck.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
I'm reaching out because my son, I won't say his name,
but know that we are talking to you. Help start
a Cape Cod chapter of Turning Point USA a couple
of years ago. He's home today, somewhat broken, trying to
process what happened. He's only twenty years old. My son's
been inspired by Charlie Kirk since he was a little kid.
(32:21):
He now works for Leadership Institute, spends endless hours recruiting
students at colleges all over the Northeast. I want to
see if there's a way that you could possibly speak
to him today. I think good therapy for him would
be to speak about Charlie Kirk. He's alone in his
room right now, trying to think of a way to
help him get inspired, lift his spirits. Anything you can
(32:43):
do would be greatly appreciated. So I don't want to
call this kid. I don't want to put him on
the talk to millions of people. But Buck, I think
you and I they can clip this and they can
share with him, and you're hearing my voice because I
think there's so many young kids out there, so many
(33:05):
young boys that are lost, and Charlie was for them
a voice to help provide salvation to them. That's why
he connected so well with young men young boys. And
I know in my own household that just from talking
to my kids about the impact. My ninth grade son said, Dad,
(33:27):
we went in the locker room and the whole football
team was just crushed. My son, one of my sons
last night, when I was talking to him, said, do
you think Charlie's kids are going to grow up and
watch that video of him getting shot one day? What
(33:52):
do you say to that? And so what I would say,
what I told them, and what I would tell that
kid is you have to be tougher than you think
you are. If you have to be braver then you
(34:15):
think you are, and you are both, and so are
all of us. And I think for young kids in particular,
you may not have experienced. And I know for you, Buck,
(34:36):
I could see it in your eyes because this is
the first time something like this has happened since you
became a dad. Yeah, and it changes you in a
big way.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
But what I would say.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Is everybody has to lift up and be braver and
more courageous and stronger than you think you are. And
I think when you're a young kid, young boy, young girl,
you feel like you're fragile, and you aren't. You are
so much stronger than you think you are. And one
(35:15):
of the things with this whole toxic empathy universe is
we're telling kids, hey, you're weak. Words hurt you. You
need to be protected from the real world. That guy
who killed Charlie, he was weak. There was an open
(35:36):
mic right there. If you have the best argument in
the world. Charlie was providing you a voice to step
right up and tell him why he was wrong. And
instead of that, from two hundred yards away, you took
his life. For your young son, for so many young
people out there, and for a lot of us that
(35:58):
are older too, we have to be braver. We have
to be more courageous, We have to be tougher than
we even think we are. And you cannot let people
who want to silence you win, ever that's what they want.
You have to stand up stronger than you've ever been before.
All of us do, your son, my son's, everybody's sons
(36:20):
and daughters, and all of us two have to be
the rocks to allow them to stand up and be strong.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Amen, Clay, Let's take let's take calls in the next
let's come back.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Let's hear from all of you.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Our lines are open to We want to speak with
all of you, so please call in and if you're
getting a busy please wait your turn. If you want
to speak to us and everyone all around the country
about what happened, we'll get into it a few minutes here.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Thank you for being with us.
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