September 6, 2024 • 36 mins
Polling data from Nate Silver a boost to Trumpers. Debate countdown. Breaking: Trump hush money finale delayed until after the election, blowing up all the Democrats lawfare in their faces. Trump’s been subjected to lawfare, had his house raided, and been shot; how is anyone considering Kamala? If Trump can stay between the lines in the debate, he wins. Leftist Mark Cuban on Kamala’s proposed tax on “unrealized gains.” Clay says he used to think Cuban was super smart, but now he sounds like Kamala’s economics spokesman.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
In second hour of play in Buck, it is all
flying by.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Isn't it? This election cycle it is.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I can't believe we got early voting just a matter
of days really away.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
At this point, we're going to be here in middle
of September.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
We've got more and more data to look at, including,
as Clay mentioned, this, what's his name, Nate Silver prediction
who you'll be happy to see. Well, well, you know what,
I don't want to get ahead of myself. We will
tell you about what Nate's saying, mister Nate. And then
we also have the debate just on Tuesday, now days away.
(00:44):
And over at Fox News you had one of the
hosts taking a spokesperson for the Kamala campaign somewhat to task.
Here on hold on a second, you're going to stake
it all on one debate? Think about this. Why would
(01:06):
you put it all on one debate? Unless you're wait,
what do we hit you with? We'll get to this
in a sec. Buck reports just breaking literally right now
that they have delayed the Trump hush money New York
City sentencing trial until after the election.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Ah, there we go.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
And so I'm seeing that on multiple accounts. I haven't
seen a full article yet about this, but this is
breaking news right now. We're gonna get Dana Perino. That
clip that you're referencing is pretty fantastic. But this was
scheduled for September eighteenth. We just talked about it yesterday
(01:47):
and again breaking news just coming down. We'll get more
details for you. But this would mean all of the
lawfare has blown up in the Democrat parties face on
a level that I think it was hard to even predict.
What happened dismissed in South Florida, probably never gonna happen
(02:09):
in DC. Fanny Willis and her boyfriend Nathan Wade still
hanging out down in Atlanta. That case is on basically
like Kick to the Curb. But the New York City case,
the trumped up felonies based on bookkeeping, is now falling.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Apart as well.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
And but to me, Buck, what I take as a
notice on this, and again this is just breaking news,
is that the polling must be disastrous on any law
fair related to Trump, and the Kamala team has let
it be known that they basically want all pencils down
on this because it's a mess for them.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I think that if they sentenced Trump to prison. Now,
that doesn't mean he would start serving, right. We've discussed this.
If merchand Though had said you get a year in
Ryker's Island, which you know could have been something along
the lines of what he faced.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I don't know whatever it would be for.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Thirty four thirty fourth felonies. You've actually got to say
it in Stelter voice.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Thirty fourth Feladays, it.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Is absurd and everybody knows it. But Clay, I think they,
to your point, recognize what it delivered Trump the election,
to have a judge in New York City, with the
whole Sham trial everything going on, to say a presidential
candidate should go to prison for a bookkeeping dispute, really,
(03:33):
I mean, I don't even think anything was wrong with
any of this, or a book keeping dispute internally where
there was no crime committed whatsoever. And even if there
was a crime, it's it's like a you know, jaywalking.
I mean, the thing is absurd to say a president
should go to prison for that is.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Just it's just nuts.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
It's two nuts for them to pull it off. So
I think the delay, I agree with you, is at
least in part driven by Oh my gosh, would this
have backfired even more? Because I think the lawfair up
to this point in terms of the poling, I think
it has backfired. I think they believe that the whole thing. Remember,
not only were they going to try to drag Biden
across the finish line.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Still a little sad about this, all right, it's still
a little raw.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
It's a little little student for me because I really
did think they were gonna take Biden.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
But whatever.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
But Clay, a part of it was why did they
believe that they would be able to drag Biden across
the finish line even though he has dementia? And it's
because they thought the lawfair stuff would turn the country
against Trump in a substantial way. He's a convicted felon.
I have not met a single person who said he's
a convicted felon. No, I don't like him. The only
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people who care about it hated Trump before.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
It's been again. The order just coming down as we
are talking to all of you. The delay is now
for sentencing and punishment scheduled for November twenty sixth of
twenty twenty four, So so three weeks after election day
(05:04):
is now when Trump would face some sort of legal consequence,
according to Judge merchand he has posted his h he
has posted his ruling saying that he doesn't want to
get it, ironically, that he doesn't want to get involved
in the actual process of the case itself. And so
(05:25):
November twenty sixth, I mean, this is again I will
just point out, Buck, all of these left wingers who
have been dreaming of Trump getting Trump now four years,
they keep getting lucied with the Charlie Brown football like
they're like.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
We finally got him.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Now he's gonna go to Rikers Island and he's gonna
and they just keep delaying. I think if he wins
on November twenty sixth, meaning Trump wins the election on
November twenty sixth, I think that they will do some
sort of very petty punishment. And I think the law
fair is going to be regarded as one of the
(06:09):
most disastrous own goals in the history of presidential politics,
because I think it has rallied Trump supporters. I think
it may well propel Trump into the White House. And
if you questioned whether that was true or not, do
you have any doubt at all, Buck, that if they
thought it was beneficial on September eighteenth, to do something
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to Trump, they would have done it. They realized it's
politically suicidal to make this decision, and so they bumped
it to after the trial.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Just also looking at the election.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Yeah, after the narrative, the narrative shifts that have occurred here,
no one even mentions anymore that Donald Trump took a
bullet through the ear while campaigning in Pennsylvania. Correct, Like
this is you know he's running. This is a man
who took a bullet to run for president, running against
Kamala Harris. I don't know, has never sacrificed anything for
(07:04):
anybody that I've ever seen, other than just trying to
advance Kamala's political prospects. Like we're just the sense of
destiny and history and everything else that you would expect
for a presidential candidate who has been through.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
How many total trials? I know it's for criminal, but
is it six? With it?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
There's too civil? Right, I can't keep it all least.
I think you're right. I think it's six different major
legal proceedings. And that doesn't even include Buck all of
the people surrounding Trump who have also been including it
was an Alan Weiselberg for not reporting that he got
a car. It went to prison.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I mean, look, it's it's really affected a lot of people,
including me, how we think about trying to live in
New York City as a conservative. I mean, they're gonna
throw you, and they're gonna throw a senior citizen accountant
in prison for you know, a lot of people don't
even know that you would have I know, he's an
account so he would probably know, but a lot of
people wouldn't even know that you're to do that list
(08:01):
on your taxes. I had use of a company car
like this is this is mickey mouse stuff. They sent
him to prison for that. They didn't say you have
to pay a fine, so you have to take this
stuff into account. But I just think the fact that
Trump is up against Kamala when you see what has
been thrown in his way, really starting with the raid
on mar al Lago, which, oh, it's worth noting that
whole case has been just thrown out by the federal judge.
(08:24):
So the raid that kicked off the law there, that
case is caput right now, that case is Donezo and
you had four criminal cases, You've had six major legal
proceedings all meant to get Trump ready. The Egen Carrold defamation,
you the Trump corporation stuff, the civil stuff, the Letitia
(08:46):
James in New York. Eve had the four criminal trials.
The guy took a bullet and just barely survived. It
was a miracle that he survived. And there's still people
who are like, yeah, I think I might vote for
Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
I just seen her on a what what world are
we living in? I mean, on the one.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Side, you've got the You've got a story of like, uh,
you know, just the the Tasks of Hercules or something,
and then it's.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Just like Kamala Harrison, Yeah, let's give it to her.
She's the nominee, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
It's just there's there's no comparison in terms of the
gravity and the seriousness between these two political figures.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
No doubt.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
And again that is why I think you're starting to
see a panic. If Trump can just stay between the
lines on Tuesday and not be the worst version of
himself from a independent voter perspective, which we saw in
the first debate against Joe Biden, then Kamala's campaign is
(09:44):
going to go up and smoke. I think there are
embers right now, there are do you want to play?
We'll play when we come back. When you get Dana Perino,
who is maybe the nicest person on television in America,
would you get her fired up? And she fullays you,
(10:06):
I mean you are just not ready for prime time
in any respect. This is Kamala Harris's spokesperson. We'll play
that for you. I think you were about to call
for it until this great news. You have time, you
will have a time.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Let's do it here.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yes, Dana Perino with the campaign Na Kamala campaign spokesperson
hit it.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
They haven't heard from her.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Ian.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
I know that she did the speech in New Hampshire.
But the President Trump, for all the interviews that he's on,
he's willing to take questions everything. Is it a risk
to put all your chips on one debate when she
hasn't really been able to do any sort of Q
and A with anybody except for in debate prep.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Well, i'd reject that she sat down with Dana Bash
for a long interview on CNN that aired.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
One interview in forty seven days.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Well, you know, I know you guys are just now
paying attention to her now that she's the presidential candidate,
but she's done about ninety interviews this year is the
vice president, and people maybe weren't paying attention or listening.
She's taken questions from report on the campaign trail so
far in this campaign, people who are covering her every
single day, she's getting more interviews and come on, press
Moore and take more reporter questions. Of course she's gonna
(11:10):
do that over the course of this campaign.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Look, Dana's brand to what, to the degree I can
speak to it is she's you know, she's honest and
fair and very nice. Yes, and you know she's being
a very nice person. That's just that's I mean, I've
met her, you know, and a lot of people know her.
She's a very nice person, good journalist. I don't mean
she's too nice. I just mean, you know, she's very
polite to guess, and she's just like, come on, dude,
(11:34):
come on, dude. Oh, she's done a lot of interviews
as the vice president, so that's the same thing as
running in a presidential campaign.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
This is absurd and bragging that she set down for
a long interview with the Dana Bash a long interview.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I mean, I think it was like eighteen minutes.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
I just they are terrified of what might happen for her,
and man, I really wish that we did truly have
an adversarial media. Give jd Vance an example. The guy
will sit down and talk to CNN, MSNBC, NBC News,
all the people that are going to come after him.
(12:12):
I really, legitimately desperately have some wish that on the
debate itself, they would actually confront Kamala with all of
the flip flopping and try to hold her feet to
the fire. And I hope Trump will ask questions of her.
I know you're not technically supposed to, but for me
(12:33):
Trump pointing out that she supports reparations and now wants
to build a border wall, he could turn to her
and say, Kamala, why don't you endorse me now that
you are coming along with me on wanting to build
a border wall.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I gotta tell you something. And I know that we've
been talking about this and I've agreed with you play
up to this point. That both camps will come away
and say that you know, there's side wanted, and yeah,
that will happen. I actually think Kamala's gonna get pretty
badly it's not gonna be a knockout. But this, this
would be a this would be a unanimous decision by
(13:09):
the judges if the judges were on it.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
On well, we know we got the rig judge system,
so we know that they'll have a pole and Kamala
will win, probably on CNN and things like.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
That, of course.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
But but but it's gonna she's she's gonna lose momentum.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
I I think she's gonna get her butt kicked up there.
I really do.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I don't think it's gonna because and I couldn't say
that for all of the Biden debate. I couldn't. I mean,
it's just not wasn't Trump's best showing. I said it
at the time. I think he's gonna it's gonna be
a butt kicking up there.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I really think so.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
The more I've really been thinking about it, she is
so weak. I mean, having Tim wall it's like, you know,
it's like an emotional support blanket.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I agree, it's super weird. And and by the way,
Tim Walls is dumber than she is. We're making fun
of Kamala. Tim Wallas hasn't set for an interview.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I gotta tell you something.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Also, I know that we been saying that Kamala not
picking Shapiro. I don't think Shapiro wanted to be on
this ticket. I think he wants to run his own campaign.
I think he thinks that Kamala is gonna lose. You'll
never get that confirmed anywhere, right, because he's not gonna
say that.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I think he's too sharp throw a guy to want
to attach himself to be Kamala's VP when he gets
to run his own deal in the next cycle. Think
if he thinks Kamala is gonna lose, which I think
he does.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Well, and he would have good access to polling in Pennsylvania, right, Yes,
big time, So I think I think that matters all right.
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through the Friday edition of the program. Breaking news right
in the last fifteen or twenty minutes that Donald Trump
not going to be sentenced in uh New York City
until after the election Judge merchand Coward that he is Buck.
(16:53):
We'll wait and see whether Trump wins the election or not.
If he wins the election, I bet they give him
some form of minor probation. If you will, I bet
they try to put him in prison.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Honestly, this is what I was gonna ask you, is
this winner go to prison for Trump?
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Now?
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Because I gotta say I think the answer is yes, Yeah,
I think so. I think he will wait and see.
If Trump wins, then the election's over. Democrats screaming for
a pound of flesh. They'll give him some sort of
minor fine or something, and it'll be like an embarrassment.
If he loses, then they will actually go after him
(17:28):
more aggressively. And by the way, I think this case
is still implicated in a major way by the presidential
immunity ruling. So I think on appeal it's going to
take years to wind its way through before all is
said and done. But I think that's what we're really
dealing with. It was bad politics and they're waiting to
see if he wins.
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I think they're illegal to even buy in the United
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By the way, we've been talking about buck the lawfair
kind of going up in smoke in New York City
one more so, there's a bunch of positive Trump legal
related news that has come down so far. Let me
hit people with both of these two. North Carolina has
(20:52):
you're supposed to be able to get your ballots today
in North Carolina, battleground state. North Carolina now is not
is theoretically not allowing those ballots out because they're going
to remove RFK Junior's name from the ballot. Michigan has
also said the Court of Appeals in Michigan now the
appeals are going to continue, but Michigan has now said
(21:13):
that RFK Junior's name could be removed as well. There
are only three battleground states where RFK Junior's name was
going to be on the ballot, Michigan, North Carolina, Wisconsin.
If Michigan and North Carolina courts uphold the most recent
rulings that have come down, then this would mean only
Wisconsin of the battleground states. Would RFK Junior's name appear,
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which is a huge win for Trump because some people
are not that well informed and they might vote RFK
Junior over Trump, which is why Democrats are now fighting
to try to keep RFK Junior's names on the ballot.
I'm not sure what the legal process is in Wisconsin,
but if you combine the sentencing from Judge Merchan, not
gonna happen till after the election. Now North Carolin and
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Michigan both courts saying RFK Junior's name can come off
the ballot. A lot of very positive news that has
come out from Trump oh already so far this Friday.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Headed into the weekend.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Look, I'll throw a little party on this show, so
to speak, when RFK Junior gets off all those ballots,
because then he is nothing but helpful to Trump at
this phase, and that's where I want things to be.
So I'm very hopeful that we get there, and I
think I think we will. I think it's gonna happen.
It's a little too Soviet to pull off the he
can't be on the ballot, No, he must be on
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the ballot. I think it's a little too hard to
just sort of have that whiplash. But we'll see that's
of course Democrats what they want. Great VIP emails coming
in here. This one place struck me. It's from Deborah.
You know how we know Kamala's policy changes are a
fraud because the far left progressives have gone silent. Why
haven't we heard from Bernie, Why haven't we heard from
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AOC because they all know it's just until she gets elected.
I think Deborah ten out of ten nailed at Bullseye.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Absolutely the case. You will not hear a.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Peep a peep from a single progressive Democrat right now
communist about how she's thrown everything out that she used
to say when she was running in California and when
she was Biden's VP, even because it's all a game,
it's all a con, and they're in on the con.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
This is also why a primary matters if you had
had a legitimate primary. Again, I give credit to Biden
Biden in the primary when they selected him. The reason
why they picked him was they knew, unlike Bernie Sanders,
they could sell him as a moderate, and Biden was
politically skilled enough that he didn't have really that many
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crazy things that he supported during the Democrat primary process,
Kamala did. Kamala is a super left winger. She's the
most left wing nominee for a major political party in
most of our lives. And they know that she is
vulnerble on all these issues. And so their response has been,
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we're gonna hide her, and we're gonna leak to the
New York Times and the Washington Post that she no
longer believes all the things that she told people she
actually believed in.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Isn't it amazing too?
Speaker 2 (24:14):
You think about the Democrat attack machine, Like didn't they
go after Supreme Court nominee Bork for like his video
rentals or something like twenty years years and years ago?
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yeah, years and years ago.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Like there, they'll go after conservatives who are seventy But
Colin after a.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Taban Off for things that were written in his high
school yearbook. They quizzed him on it. Kamala Harris did herself. Well,
I mean that was all a lie. I'm even talking
about things other people actually said. Right, it's at a
little distinction there, Like what you wrote for your college
op ed board forty years ago should be disqualifying if
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you're a conservative, right, But what Kamala said until two
weeks ago and her entire adult life totally change. She's
a changed woman on.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
That issue, Like who believes this stuff?
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Not only that, it wasn't that long ago that John
Kerry based on one issue, the Iraq War, was derided
as a flip flopper and it may well have cost
him the two thousand and four election, and the media
was willing to cover that in an aggressive way.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I think they were selling or giving out flip flops
at the RNC that year. Like that became the huge
attack that in the swift boat thing with the two
main lines of attack against Kerry, and clearly it worked.
We got another email here, I think this is very
good one from on our VIP's Clay Paul. Why would
Hunter plead guilty? Does it have anything to do with
Joe's sudden decision to withdraw from the race. We all
know Joe is pushed out by the Democratic machine. What
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did they promise him in return? I like this because
I actually have a theory on this one. And first
of all, logistically, if you're Hunter, you know you're getting
a pardon, So why go, like, you know, just plead
guilty and then you're gonna get partined anyway, right, it
doesn't really matter for him. Why go through the mass
of possibly having to show up at a trial. You
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know the trial was going to start jury selection. That's
why he pleaded guilty. It's not like he had months
to burn here, it was go time. So why go
through a trial when you don't have to when also
you're not pleading you know, you're not pleading guilty in
a murder. You're pleading guilty to a tax charge, and
you're gonna get pardoned. So I think the logistics of it,
but I also think this is a little more of
the Democrat four D chess. I think that they said
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to Biden, do you want the Biden name to be
protected within Democrat circles? And do you want your grandkids
to be able to choose between Harvard, Princeton and Stanford
or do you want to be, you know, a forgotten
chump and we make sure that you know your heirs
don't get the treatment that the Kennedys get, the Obama's get,
the Clinton's get, the Gores get. I mean, you know,
(26:48):
any sort of big name Democrat, the Pelosis gets treated
like royalty. And I think that that's part of why
Hunter pleaded because he's not allowed to create a and
a mess leading up to the election.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
I saw George Clooney was in Venice for a new
movie that he has coming out.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Did you see this Buck?
Speaker 3 (27:10):
He was asked about the editorial that he wrote, because
I don't think he's done media since he knifed Biden
in the back with that New York Times editorial piece.
George Clooney said, somebody said, hey, congratulations to you on
the fact. I'm paraphrasing the question that that Biden dropped out,
and George Clooney said, and again I'm paraphrasing him, the
congratulations shouldn't be for me. Joe Biden is the George
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Washington of our time. He made the right decision to
step down. And I just I couldn't help but laugh
when I saw that, because even in the context I'm
in La right now, Hollywood is a land of bs, right,
even in the context of Hollywood bs, that was next
level Hollywood bs that George Clooney would say, credit should all.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Belong to President Obama. I mean President Biden. He's the
George Washington of our time.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
I mean the credit for him for the coup probably
does belong to Obama at some level, so.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
That's certainly true. There's no doubt that Cloudy was talking
with Obama before he wrote that at wrote, but it
can give you right on editorial.
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Now it's you. Thank you. Oh, that's super nice.
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Gigi's awesome. Yeah, like you know, thank you, Gigi, I said, Gigi,
A nice thank you. Thank you so much for that's
very kind. It's like made honestly, like made my day.
There you go, thank you, Gig. I wish I had
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I hopped on the Clay train, and the Clay train
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Speaker 1 (31:59):
Third hour.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Also, like Buck mentioned, going to talk to our buddy
Michael Berry from down in Houston. Eight hundred and two
to eight A two. I do want to play this
Mark Cuban, who used to be normal and sane has
somehow ended up being the chief spokesperson for the Kamala
Harris economic campaign, and we talked about this a little
(32:23):
bit buck but I do think it's significant and worth mentioning.
There is a truly radical idea that Kamala Harris has
embraced so far, and it is to tax unrealized capital gains.
That means, and usually you get taxed when you sell
an asset and you get money back, you pay taxes
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on that. What Kamala Harris has proposed is that there
be a tax on the value of, for instance, the
stock that you hold that has not actually been sold.
And this is an frankly economic, unwieldy and indefensible in
my opinion position. Mark Cuban decided he needed to call
(33:06):
I think we got a couple of cuts here. Mark
Cuban decided he needed to call into CNBC and defend
Kamala Harris and her economic plans. It didn't go well
for him. Let's play a couple of those cuts. Let's
start with the first.
Speaker 7 (33:21):
Kamala Harris's pro business. This is Kamala Harris's campaign. It's
not Joe Biden's campaign, right, Kamala Harris is not Joe Biden.
They're very, very different. She's trying to be again, this
is my perspective. She's trying to be very respectful of
the President and everything he's proposed. She's trying not to
directly contradict him in any way, you know. So she
talks a little bit around the subject when it comes
(33:43):
to taxing in particular, but she's going center one hundred percent.
I mean literally, if you read the transcript of her
speech yesterday, she's talked more about entrepreneurs and helping them
have access to investment and making it easier for people
to invest in startups then anybody, any president that I've
ever heard talk about startups and entrepreneurip.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Okay, So that's the start. I believe.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
We have audio of the host pushing back and Mark
Cuban coming unraveled a bit when he decided again to
call into CNBC here.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
That is.
Speaker 7 (34:15):
Let me just tell you, I probably talked to them
and I know others do as well, three four times
a week about what's the best approach to taxing the
wealthy and increasing revenues and cutting costs for that matter.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
So what did you tell them originally? What do you
think the right rate for capital game should be? Well, no,
you heard her in her speech yesterday.
Speaker 7 (34:32):
She said that, you know, billionaires should pay more than
you know, the average working people, firefighters, et cetera. And
if you just look at the numbers, right, if a
firefighter or someone who's working their you know, their butt
off is making you know, one hundred and fifty thousand
dollars a year, they're paying twenty four percent.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
And she came out.
Speaker 7 (34:51):
Yesterday and said twenty eight percent for capital gains, which
when I talked to them, I thought was fair.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Okay, So here's the thing on Mark Cuban in general.
I don't know what's happened to him. Buck and that
actually also grabbed the clip that I shared on Twitter,
which is where he really kind of loses it when
he gets pushed back audio team, if you could. That
is I think a function of Mark Cuban becoming so
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anti Trump that he's now advocating for economic policies that
actually don't make sense at all. And I used to
think Mark Cuban was a super smart guy. I actually
now believe he just got very fortunate and lucky because
the company he found.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Do you think he was just smart just because he
had made a lot of money or like what was was.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Well actually when he initially bought the Dallas Mavericks after
he sold broadcast dot Com, which appears to be basically
a worthless company, he just hit the timing right on
the Internet. But a lot of what he said publicly
back in the early two thousands I thought was hyper
rational and defensible, and now he's just kind of spiraled
(36:02):
out of control and doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
At all on a day to day basis.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
So I think this is an example of somebody being
led astray by being on social media, and there's no
way he can think Kamala Harris's economic policies actually makes sense.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Kamala Harris really doesn't have an economic policy. Kamala Harris
doesn't understand economics. I'm being serious. She doesn't know how
a business functions. I don't think she could do her
own taxes even if she really tried. I mean, sometimes
taxes can be hard to be fair, but I don't
think she even has any economic ideas. I think she
just used to go with whatever the Democrat Party thought
(36:40):
was popular, and now it's just whatever her advisors are saying.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
It's a mess. Last hour the week, next
Welcome back.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
In second hour of play in Buck, it is all
flying by.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Isn't it? This election cycle it is.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I can't believe we got early voting just a matter
of days really away.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
At this point, we're going to be here in middle
of September.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
We've got more and more data to look at, including,
as Clay mentioned, this, what's his name, Nate Silver prediction
who you'll be happy to see. Well, well, you know what,
I don't want to get ahead of myself. We will
tell you about what Nate's saying, mister Nate. And then
we also have the debate just on Tuesday, now days away.
(00:44):
And over at Fox News you had one of the
hosts taking a spokesperson for the Kamala campaign somewhat to task.
Here on hold on a second, you're going to stake
it all on one debate? Think about this. Why would
(01:06):
you put it all on one debate? Unless you're wait,
what do we hit you with? We'll get to this
in a sec. Buck reports just breaking literally right now
that they have delayed the Trump hush money New York
City sentencing trial until after the election.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Ah, there we go.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
And so I'm seeing that on multiple accounts. I haven't
seen a full article yet about this, but this is
breaking news right now. We're gonna get Dana Perino. That
clip that you're referencing is pretty fantastic. But this was
scheduled for September eighteenth. We just talked about it yesterday
(01:47):
and again breaking news just coming down. We'll get more
details for you. But this would mean all of the
lawfare has blown up in the Democrat parties face on
a level that I think it was hard to even predict.
What happened dismissed in South Florida, probably never gonna happen
(02:09):
in DC. Fanny Willis and her boyfriend Nathan Wade still
hanging out down in Atlanta. That case is on basically
like Kick to the Curb. But the New York City case,
the trumped up felonies based on bookkeeping, is now falling.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Apart as well.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
And but to me, Buck, what I take as a
notice on this, and again this is just breaking news,
is that the polling must be disastrous on any law
fair related to Trump, and the Kamala team has let
it be known that they basically want all pencils down
on this because it's a mess for them.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I think that if they sentenced Trump to prison. Now,
that doesn't mean he would start serving, right. We've discussed this.
If merchand Though had said you get a year in
Ryker's Island, which you know could have been something along
the lines of what he faced.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I don't know whatever it would be for.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Thirty four thirty fourth felonies. You've actually got to say
it in Stelter voice.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Thirty fourth Feladays, it.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Is absurd and everybody knows it. But Clay, I think they,
to your point, recognize what it delivered Trump the election,
to have a judge in New York City, with the
whole Sham trial everything going on, to say a presidential
candidate should go to prison for a bookkeeping dispute, really,
(03:33):
I mean, I don't even think anything was wrong with
any of this, or a book keeping dispute internally where
there was no crime committed whatsoever. And even if there
was a crime, it's it's like a you know, jaywalking.
I mean, the thing is absurd to say a president
should go to prison for that is.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Just it's just nuts.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
It's two nuts for them to pull it off. So
I think the delay, I agree with you, is at
least in part driven by Oh my gosh, would this
have backfired even more? Because I think the lawfair up
to this point in terms of the poling, I think
it has backfired. I think they believe that the whole thing. Remember,
not only were they going to try to drag Biden
across the finish line.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Still a little sad about this, all right, it's still
a little raw.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
It's a little little student for me because I really
did think they were gonna take Biden.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
But whatever.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
But Clay, a part of it was why did they
believe that they would be able to drag Biden across
the finish line even though he has dementia? And it's
because they thought the lawfair stuff would turn the country
against Trump in a substantial way. He's a convicted felon.
I have not met a single person who said he's
a convicted felon. No, I don't like him. The only
(04:40):
people who care about it hated Trump before.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
It's been again. The order just coming down as we
are talking to all of you. The delay is now
for sentencing and punishment scheduled for November twenty sixth of
twenty twenty four, So so three weeks after election day
(05:04):
is now when Trump would face some sort of legal consequence,
according to Judge merchand he has posted his h he
has posted his ruling saying that he doesn't want to
get it, ironically, that he doesn't want to get involved
in the actual process of the case itself. And so
(05:25):
November twenty sixth, I mean, this is again I will
just point out, Buck, all of these left wingers who
have been dreaming of Trump getting Trump now four years,
they keep getting lucied with the Charlie Brown football like
they're like.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
We finally got him.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Now he's gonna go to Rikers Island and he's gonna
and they just keep delaying. I think if he wins
on November twenty sixth, meaning Trump wins the election on
November twenty sixth, I think that they will do some
sort of very petty punishment. And I think the law
fair is going to be regarded as one of the
(06:09):
most disastrous own goals in the history of presidential politics,
because I think it has rallied Trump supporters. I think
it may well propel Trump into the White House. And
if you questioned whether that was true or not, do
you have any doubt at all, Buck, that if they
thought it was beneficial on September eighteenth, to do something
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to Trump, they would have done it. They realized it's
politically suicidal to make this decision, and so they bumped
it to after the trial.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Just also looking at the election.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Yeah, after the narrative, the narrative shifts that have occurred here,
no one even mentions anymore that Donald Trump took a
bullet through the ear while campaigning in Pennsylvania. Correct, Like
this is you know he's running. This is a man
who took a bullet to run for president, running against
Kamala Harris. I don't know, has never sacrificed anything for
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anybody that I've ever seen, other than just trying to
advance Kamala's political prospects. Like we're just the sense of
destiny and history and everything else that you would expect
for a presidential candidate who has been through.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
How many total trials? I know it's for criminal, but
is it six? With it?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
There's too civil? Right, I can't keep it all least.
I think you're right. I think it's six different major
legal proceedings. And that doesn't even include Buck all of
the people surrounding Trump who have also been including it
was an Alan Weiselberg for not reporting that he got
a car. It went to prison.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I mean, look, it's it's really affected a lot of people,
including me, how we think about trying to live in
New York City as a conservative. I mean, they're gonna
throw you, and they're gonna throw a senior citizen accountant
in prison for you know, a lot of people don't
even know that you would have I know, he's an
account so he would probably know, but a lot of
people wouldn't even know that you're to do that list
(08:01):
on your taxes. I had use of a company car
like this is this is mickey mouse stuff. They sent
him to prison for that. They didn't say you have
to pay a fine, so you have to take this
stuff into account. But I just think the fact that
Trump is up against Kamala when you see what has
been thrown in his way, really starting with the raid
on mar al Lago, which, oh, it's worth noting that
whole case has been just thrown out by the federal judge.
(08:24):
So the raid that kicked off the law there, that
case is caput right now, that case is Donezo and
you had four criminal cases, You've had six major legal
proceedings all meant to get Trump ready. The Egen Carrold defamation,
you the Trump corporation stuff, the civil stuff, the Letitia
(08:46):
James in New York. Eve had the four criminal trials.
The guy took a bullet and just barely survived. It
was a miracle that he survived. And there's still people
who are like, yeah, I think I might vote for
Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
I just seen her on a what what world are
we living in? I mean, on the one.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Side, you've got the You've got a story of like, uh,
you know, just the the Tasks of Hercules or something,
and then it's.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Just like Kamala Harrison, Yeah, let's give it to her.
She's the nominee, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
It's just there's there's no comparison in terms of the
gravity and the seriousness between these two political figures.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
No doubt.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
And again that is why I think you're starting to
see a panic. If Trump can just stay between the
lines on Tuesday and not be the worst version of
himself from a independent voter perspective, which we saw in
the first debate against Joe Biden, then Kamala's campaign is
(09:44):
going to go up and smoke. I think there are
embers right now, there are do you want to play?
We'll play when we come back. When you get Dana Perino,
who is maybe the nicest person on television in America,
would you get her fired up? And she fullays you,
(10:06):
I mean you are just not ready for prime time
in any respect. This is Kamala Harris's spokesperson. We'll play
that for you. I think you were about to call
for it until this great news. You have time, you
will have a time.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Let's do it here.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yes, Dana Perino with the campaign Na Kamala campaign spokesperson
hit it.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
They haven't heard from her.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Ian.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
I know that she did the speech in New Hampshire.
But the President Trump, for all the interviews that he's on,
he's willing to take questions everything. Is it a risk
to put all your chips on one debate when she
hasn't really been able to do any sort of Q
and A with anybody except for in debate prep.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Well, i'd reject that she sat down with Dana Bash
for a long interview on CNN that aired.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
One interview in forty seven days.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Well, you know, I know you guys are just now
paying attention to her now that she's the presidential candidate,
but she's done about ninety interviews this year is the
vice president, and people maybe weren't paying attention or listening.
She's taken questions from report on the campaign trail so
far in this campaign, people who are covering her every
single day, she's getting more interviews and come on, press
Moore and take more reporter questions. Of course she's gonna
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do that over the course of this campaign.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Look, Dana's brand to what, to the degree I can
speak to it is she's you know, she's honest and
fair and very nice. Yes, and you know she's being
a very nice person. That's just that's I mean, I've
met her, you know, and a lot of people know her.
She's a very nice person, good journalist. I don't mean
she's too nice. I just mean, you know, she's very
polite to guess, and she's just like, come on, dude,
(11:34):
come on, dude. Oh, she's done a lot of interviews
as the vice president, so that's the same thing as
running in a presidential campaign.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
This is absurd and bragging that she set down for
a long interview with the Dana Bash a long interview.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
I mean, I think it was like eighteen minutes.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
I just they are terrified of what might happen for her,
and man, I really wish that we did truly have
an adversarial media. Give jd Vance an example. The guy
will sit down and talk to CNN, MSNBC, NBC News,
all the people that are going to come after him.
(12:12):
I really, legitimately desperately have some wish that on the
debate itself, they would actually confront Kamala with all of
the flip flopping and try to hold her feet to
the fire. And I hope Trump will ask questions of her.
I know you're not technically supposed to, but for me
(12:33):
Trump pointing out that she supports reparations and now wants
to build a border wall, he could turn to her
and say, Kamala, why don't you endorse me now that
you are coming along with me on wanting to build
a border wall.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I gotta tell you something. And I know that we've
been talking about this and I've agreed with you play
up to this point. That both camps will come away
and say that you know, there's side wanted, and yeah,
that will happen. I actually think Kamala's gonna get pretty
badly it's not gonna be a knockout. But this, this
would be a this would be a unanimous decision by
(13:09):
the judges if the judges were on it.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
On well, we know we got the rig judge system,
so we know that they'll have a pole and Kamala
will win, probably on CNN and things like.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
That, of course.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
But but but it's gonna she's she's gonna lose momentum.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
I I think she's gonna get her butt kicked up there.
I really do.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I don't think it's gonna because and I couldn't say
that for all of the Biden debate. I couldn't. I mean,
it's just not wasn't Trump's best showing. I said it
at the time. I think he's gonna it's gonna be
a butt kicking up there.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I really think so.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
The more I've really been thinking about it, she is
so weak. I mean, having Tim wall it's like, you know,
it's like an emotional support blanket.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I agree, it's super weird. And and by the way,
Tim Walls is dumber than she is. We're making fun
of Kamala. Tim Wallas hasn't set for an interview.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I gotta tell you something.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Also, I know that we been saying that Kamala not
picking Shapiro. I don't think Shapiro wanted to be on
this ticket. I think he wants to run his own campaign.
I think he thinks that Kamala is gonna lose. You'll
never get that confirmed anywhere, right, because he's not gonna
say that.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I think he's too sharp throw a guy to want
to attach himself to be Kamala's VP when he gets
to run his own deal in the next cycle. Think
if he thinks Kamala is gonna lose, which I think
he does.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Well, and he would have good access to polling in Pennsylvania, right, Yes,
big time, So I think I think that matters all right.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
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all of you hanging out with us. We are rolling
through the Friday edition of the program. Breaking news right
in the last fifteen or twenty minutes that Donald Trump
not going to be sentenced in uh New York City
until after the election Judge merchand Coward that he is Buck.
(16:53):
We'll wait and see whether Trump wins the election or not.
If he wins the election, I bet they give him
some form of minor probation. If you will, I bet
they try to put him in prison.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Honestly, this is what I was gonna ask you, is
this winner go to prison for Trump?
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Now?
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Because I gotta say I think the answer is yes, Yeah,
I think so. I think he will wait and see.
If Trump wins, then the election's over. Democrats screaming for
a pound of flesh. They'll give him some sort of
minor fine or something, and it'll be like an embarrassment.
If he loses, then they will actually go after him
(17:28):
more aggressively. And by the way, I think this case
is still implicated in a major way by the presidential
immunity ruling. So I think on appeal it's going to
take years to wind its way through before all is
said and done. But I think that's what we're really
dealing with. It was bad politics and they're waiting to
see if he wins.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
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Speaker 1 (18:49):
Welcome back in. We have so many.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
V IP emails from all of you, which we're going
to dive into here in a second. We love the
back and forth with all of you across this great land.
Our VIPs are so helpful, so support of the show.
Hopefully our vps are also all Crockett subscribers too. I mean,
you know, come on now, get your coffee and get
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(19:13):
go to clayanbuck dot com sign up, become a VIP.
There you get special access to email in box and
you can watch this stream behind the paywall on the
website and all that good stuff. We also have our
friend Michael Berry by the way, joining the third hour.
We'll do a sort of politics deep dive with him,
the czar of Talk Out of Houston, dominating the airwaves
(19:36):
in Houston for a long time, and he's got an announcement.
We wanted to bring him on because he's a friend
of ours, friend of the program, guest host on this program.
Let him bring that to all of you, So hang
out for the Czar. He's also got an incredible collection
of cowboy boots. I'm just gonna say, you know, I mean, Clay,
You're pretty good. You guys, I don't know, you guys
probably go toe to toe with the Cowboy boots.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I'm developing more.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
I've got three pairs that I'm very confident in that
I can wear around anyway.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
And what I've noticed is when you're comparing cowboy boots,
it very quickly turns into like what kind of animal
skin it is? And it's like well minor ostrich and
it's like well mineor alligators like well mineor komodo dragons
like well mine are the scales of an actual dragon?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Yes, I've got crocodile boots from Australia, which is my
favorite that I can have most.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Pre see play's got Australia. He's got like saltwater croc
boots from Australia.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
NBD.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
I think they're illegal to even buy in the United
States because I don't think you can have crocodile boots here.
By the way, we've been talking about buck the lawfair
kind of going up in smoke in New York City
one more so, there's a bunch of positive Trump legal
related news that has come down so far. Let me
hit people with both of these two. North Carolina has
(20:52):
you're supposed to be able to get your ballots today
in North Carolina, battleground state. North Carolina now is not
is theoretically not allowing those ballots out because they're going
to remove RFK Junior's name from the ballot. Michigan has
also said the Court of Appeals in Michigan now the
appeals are going to continue, but Michigan has now said
(21:13):
that RFK Junior's name could be removed as well. There
are only three battleground states where RFK Junior's name was
going to be on the ballot, Michigan, North Carolina, Wisconsin.
If Michigan and North Carolina courts uphold the most recent
rulings that have come down, then this would mean only
Wisconsin of the battleground states. Would RFK Junior's name appear,
(21:37):
which is a huge win for Trump because some people
are not that well informed and they might vote RFK
Junior over Trump, which is why Democrats are now fighting
to try to keep RFK Junior's names on the ballot.
I'm not sure what the legal process is in Wisconsin,
but if you combine the sentencing from Judge Merchan, not
gonna happen till after the election. Now North Carolin and
(22:00):
Michigan both courts saying RFK Junior's name can come off
the ballot. A lot of very positive news that has
come out from Trump oh already so far this Friday.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Headed into the weekend.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Look, I'll throw a little party on this show, so
to speak, when RFK Junior gets off all those ballots,
because then he is nothing but helpful to Trump at
this phase, and that's where I want things to be.
So I'm very hopeful that we get there, and I
think I think we will. I think it's gonna happen.
It's a little too Soviet to pull off the he
can't be on the ballot, No, he must be on
(22:33):
the ballot. I think it's a little too hard to
just sort of have that whiplash. But we'll see that's
of course Democrats what they want. Great VIP emails coming
in here. This one place struck me. It's from Deborah.
You know how we know Kamala's policy changes are a
fraud because the far left progressives have gone silent. Why
haven't we heard from Bernie, Why haven't we heard from
(22:54):
AOC because they all know it's just until she gets elected.
I think Deborah ten out of ten nailed at Bullseye.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Absolutely the case. You will not hear a.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Peep a peep from a single progressive Democrat right now
communist about how she's thrown everything out that she used
to say when she was running in California and when
she was Biden's VP, even because it's all a game,
it's all a con, and they're in on the con.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
This is also why a primary matters if you had
had a legitimate primary. Again, I give credit to Biden
Biden in the primary when they selected him. The reason
why they picked him was they knew, unlike Bernie Sanders,
they could sell him as a moderate, and Biden was
politically skilled enough that he didn't have really that many
(23:43):
crazy things that he supported during the Democrat primary process,
Kamala did. Kamala is a super left winger. She's the
most left wing nominee for a major political party in
most of our lives. And they know that she is
vulnerble on all these issues. And so their response has been,
(24:04):
we're gonna hide her, and we're gonna leak to the
New York Times and the Washington Post that she no
longer believes all the things that she told people she
actually believed in.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Isn't it amazing too?
Speaker 2 (24:14):
You think about the Democrat attack machine, Like didn't they
go after Supreme Court nominee Bork for like his video
rentals or something like twenty years years and years ago?
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yeah, years and years ago.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Like there, they'll go after conservatives who are seventy But
Colin after a.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Taban Off for things that were written in his high
school yearbook. They quizzed him on it. Kamala Harris did herself. Well,
I mean that was all a lie. I'm even talking
about things other people actually said. Right, it's at a
little distinction there, Like what you wrote for your college
op ed board forty years ago should be disqualifying if
(24:53):
you're a conservative, right, But what Kamala said until two
weeks ago and her entire adult life totally change. She's
a changed woman on.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
That issue, Like who believes this stuff?
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Not only that, it wasn't that long ago that John
Kerry based on one issue, the Iraq War, was derided
as a flip flopper and it may well have cost
him the two thousand and four election, and the media
was willing to cover that in an aggressive way.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I think they were selling or giving out flip flops
at the RNC that year. Like that became the huge
attack that in the swift boat thing with the two
main lines of attack against Kerry, and clearly it worked.
We got another email here, I think this is very
good one from on our VIP's Clay Paul. Why would
Hunter plead guilty? Does it have anything to do with
Joe's sudden decision to withdraw from the race. We all
know Joe is pushed out by the Democratic machine. What
(25:44):
did they promise him in return? I like this because
I actually have a theory on this one. And first
of all, logistically, if you're Hunter, you know you're getting
a pardon, So why go, like, you know, just plead
guilty and then you're gonna get partined anyway, right, it
doesn't really matter for him. Why go through the mass
of possibly having to show up at a trial. You
(26:04):
know the trial was going to start jury selection. That's
why he pleaded guilty. It's not like he had months
to burn here, it was go time. So why go
through a trial when you don't have to when also
you're not pleading you know, you're not pleading guilty in
a murder. You're pleading guilty to a tax charge, and
you're gonna get pardoned. So I think the logistics of it,
but I also think this is a little more of
the Democrat four D chess. I think that they said
(26:26):
to Biden, do you want the Biden name to be
protected within Democrat circles? And do you want your grandkids
to be able to choose between Harvard, Princeton and Stanford
or do you want to be, you know, a forgotten
chump and we make sure that you know your heirs
don't get the treatment that the Kennedys get, the Obama's get,
the Clinton's get, the Gores get. I mean, you know,
(26:48):
any sort of big name Democrat, the Pelosis gets treated
like royalty. And I think that that's part of why
Hunter pleaded because he's not allowed to create a and
a mess leading up to the election.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
I saw George Clooney was in Venice for a new
movie that he has coming out.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Did you see this Buck?
Speaker 3 (27:10):
He was asked about the editorial that he wrote, because
I don't think he's done media since he knifed Biden
in the back with that New York Times editorial piece.
George Clooney said, somebody said, hey, congratulations to you on
the fact. I'm paraphrasing the question that that Biden dropped out,
and George Clooney said, and again I'm paraphrasing him, the
congratulations shouldn't be for me. Joe Biden is the George
(27:33):
Washington of our time. He made the right decision to
step down. And I just I couldn't help but laugh
when I saw that, because even in the context I'm
in La right now, Hollywood is a land of bs, right,
even in the context of Hollywood bs, that was next
level Hollywood bs that George Clooney would say, credit should all.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Belong to President Obama. I mean President Biden. He's the
George Washington of our time.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
I mean the credit for him for the coup probably
does belong to Obama at some level, so.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
That's certainly true. There's no doubt that Cloudy was talking
with Obama before he wrote that at wrote, but it
can give you right on editorial.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Yes, I got one more grave one, Gig. I just
wanted to thank you for teaching me more about what
it truly means to be an American. I grew up
with a family of Dittoheads, and every Sunday we would
have family dinner and it was a mashup of blue
bloods and Rush family works in the family business. The
discussion would be did you hear what Rush said about?
Fast forward twenty years and now I truly understand what
(28:34):
they were talking about. That's because of you. I must say,
you two are my version of Rush. And now I
can join in and say, did you hear what Clay
and Buck said? I can also understand why I say
I'm Republican when I'm asked by others what party do
I lean toward, because it used to be I would
say Republican because of our small business.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Now it's you. Thank you. Oh, that's super nice.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Gigi's awesome. Yeah, like you know, thank you, Gigi, I said, Gigi,
A nice thank you. Thank you so much for that's
very kind. It's like made honestly, like made my day.
There you go, thank you, Gig. I wish I had
better news for you, Gig. And what happened in the
football game over the weekend? Buck, Did you watch last
night when the NFL debut happened?
Speaker 1 (29:13):
No, because I was too hard for you. Because I
was I was rolling with you, Clay.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
I hopped on the Clay train, and the Clay train
last night unfortunately derailed at the last second.
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We had a ten to one payout. Patrick Mahomes total
you passing yards, We won Derrick Henry touchdown. We won
Lamar Jackson more than one and a half touchdowns rushing
or passing. Buck, they put the touchdown on the board.
They scored on the final play of the game. We're
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preparing the Ravens were to go for two. I turned
to the people that I was having dinner with, we
were sitting watching the game. Fist pounded them both. I said, boom.
We just hit on the ten to one payout and
then the toe was on the back line. We lost
our ten to one payout on a toe that they
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Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
of you hanging out with us. As we are rolling
through the Friday edition of the program. We'll take a
bunch of your calls.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Third hour.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Also, like Buck mentioned, going to talk to our buddy
Michael Berry from down in Houston. Eight hundred and two
to eight A two. I do want to play this
Mark Cuban, who used to be normal and sane has
somehow ended up being the chief spokesperson for the Kamala
Harris economic campaign, and we talked about this a little
(32:23):
bit buck but I do think it's significant and worth mentioning.
There is a truly radical idea that Kamala Harris has
embraced so far, and it is to tax unrealized capital gains.
That means, and usually you get taxed when you sell
an asset and you get money back, you pay taxes
(32:44):
on that. What Kamala Harris has proposed is that there
be a tax on the value of, for instance, the
stock that you hold that has not actually been sold.
And this is an frankly economic, unwieldy and indefensible in
my opinion position. Mark Cuban decided he needed to call
(33:06):
I think we got a couple of cuts here. Mark
Cuban decided he needed to call into CNBC and defend
Kamala Harris and her economic plans. It didn't go well
for him. Let's play a couple of those cuts. Let's
start with the first.
Speaker 7 (33:21):
Kamala Harris's pro business. This is Kamala Harris's campaign. It's
not Joe Biden's campaign, right, Kamala Harris is not Joe Biden.
They're very, very different. She's trying to be again, this
is my perspective. She's trying to be very respectful of
the President and everything he's proposed. She's trying not to
directly contradict him in any way, you know. So she
talks a little bit around the subject when it comes
(33:43):
to taxing in particular, but she's going center one hundred percent.
I mean literally, if you read the transcript of her
speech yesterday, she's talked more about entrepreneurs and helping them
have access to investment and making it easier for people
to invest in startups then anybody, any president that I've
ever heard talk about startups and entrepreneurip.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Okay, So that's the start. I believe.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
We have audio of the host pushing back and Mark
Cuban coming unraveled a bit when he decided again to
call into CNBC here.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
That is.
Speaker 7 (34:15):
Let me just tell you, I probably talked to them
and I know others do as well, three four times
a week about what's the best approach to taxing the
wealthy and increasing revenues and cutting costs for that matter.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
So what did you tell them originally? What do you
think the right rate for capital game should be? Well, no,
you heard her in her speech yesterday.
Speaker 7 (34:32):
She said that, you know, billionaires should pay more than
you know, the average working people, firefighters, et cetera. And
if you just look at the numbers, right, if a
firefighter or someone who's working their you know, their butt
off is making you know, one hundred and fifty thousand
dollars a year, they're paying twenty four percent.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
And she came out.
Speaker 7 (34:51):
Yesterday and said twenty eight percent for capital gains, which
when I talked to them, I thought was fair.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Okay, So here's the thing on Mark Cuban in general.
I don't know what's happened to him. Buck and that
actually also grabbed the clip that I shared on Twitter,
which is where he really kind of loses it when
he gets pushed back audio team, if you could. That
is I think a function of Mark Cuban becoming so
(35:19):
anti Trump that he's now advocating for economic policies that
actually don't make sense at all. And I used to
think Mark Cuban was a super smart guy. I actually
now believe he just got very fortunate and lucky because
the company he found.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Do you think he was just smart just because he
had made a lot of money or like what was was.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Well actually when he initially bought the Dallas Mavericks after
he sold broadcast dot Com, which appears to be basically
a worthless company, he just hit the timing right on
the Internet. But a lot of what he said publicly
back in the early two thousands I thought was hyper
rational and defensible, and now he's just kind of spiraled
(36:02):
out of control and doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
At all on a day to day basis.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
So I think this is an example of somebody being
led astray by being on social media, and there's no
way he can think Kamala Harris's economic policies actually makes sense.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Kamala Harris really doesn't have an economic policy. Kamala Harris
doesn't understand economics. I'm being serious. She doesn't know how
a business functions. I don't think she could do her
own taxes even if she really tried. I mean, sometimes
taxes can be hard to be fair, but I don't
think she even has any economic ideas. I think she
just used to go with whatever the Democrat Party thought
(36:40):
was popular, and now it's just whatever her advisors are saying.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
It's a mess. Last hour the week, next
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