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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, second hour, Clay end buck, get's going right now,
and we had mentioned this before. Let's just line up
the latest again, the latest picks that Trump has made
or is in process of making. Some of these have
been announced already, met Oz, Doctor Oz, that's right. He
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has been tapped to oversee Medicare and Medicaid. So that's
what's going on there. Interesting the senator Medicare and Medicaid
Services CMS. Okay, injury. I mean a very smart guy,
very successful guy. Doctor I mean, I if he wants
that job, I think we're lucky to have him in
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that job. Quite honestly. I you know, people aren't usually
beating down the President's door to behead of CMS. It
is a massively important entity though as we know, right
that's it's one of these jobs that doesn't sound as
as sexy, if you will, but it definitely matters. So
doctor Oz taking that I see this as him wanting
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to serve, which is what we want. We actually want
people who take these jobs. I know Clay agrees with
on this. We want people who take these jobs to
do good things for the American people, not to pad
their book advance for a book nobody will read and
you know, to up their speaking fees after they've been
you know, secretary of whatever for a couple of years. Right,
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So I think doctor Oz, that's a good pick. Linda
McMahon Education Secretary. I think she's aligned with the Trump
agenda on education. She knows how to run a business.
She's very close with Trump. Obviously got plenty of money.
Sean Duffy we talked about Transportation Secretary, which he's great.
I'm just laughing because they're like, they're going back to
(01:47):
the real It was a Real World or road Rule.
He was on Real World way back, I think, right,
I hate to be an expert on this. I believe
Buck he was on Real World. He was then on
Real World road Rules Challenge, which was a spinoff and
I this is like and then he was, I believe,
on The Challenge, which is one of the longest running
(02:11):
shows on cable. Surely you've watched this. I guarantee Kerry
has watched this. This was the TJ oh God. TJ.
Lavin hosts this show where they have like basic crazy
competitions all over the world between You've never seen this show.
Never seen this show. It's one of the I think
I'm correct in this and many of you. There's a
(02:33):
huge percentage of people that are like, yes, Clay, that
show is amazing, and then there's a huge percentage of
people that have never heard of this at all. It's
one of the most popular shows on cable now and
it basically is former Real World and road Rules contestants,
reality show people competing in basically sportslike events that is
(02:57):
somewhat survivor like for MTV. So anyway, wow, you're not
an ex Clay apparently, and like the Pantheon of Clay knowledge,
it's college football. And then somewhere up around there is
MTV Real World spin off show Loved. I loved the
Real World shows in the nineties and the early I
(03:19):
am an expert on the early nineties era Real World
in early two thousand. So those are the picks that
have been announced. One pick that has been talked about.
One choice that we would love to see and I
tease this before in the last hour, that to run
nih National Institute of Health. There is there are reports
(03:41):
that President Trump is considering doctor Batacharia. Doctor J. Batacharia
one of the best people in the medical field when
it counted, when it counted, when it was hard when
people were, you know, being silenced and shouted down and
threatened in their career, being undermined. Doctor j. Boticharia was
(04:03):
a stud when it counted, and having him at the
NIH and to do a real you know, hot wash,
I mean to really figure out where it is that
all this stuff went wrong, why there were no processes
to come forward with the truth, and basically figure out
how that little little turd Fauci was able to do
what he did. That is that would be phenomenal for
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doctor Batachari, I think to be in that pick. But
one thing that I thought was kind of funny Clay.
Over at the View, they are not particularly excited about
well much of anything these days. As you might have seen.
It's kind of like an ongoing funeral over there, a
funeral for the America that they think exists, that never
really existed, but whatever, a funeral for democracy since the
(04:48):
people chose Donald Trump, that that means democracy must be dead.
They're very sad over at the View, and at least
a couple of their hosts are very opposed to the
Trump nominees and particularly Gates, and they have said some
very not nice things about mister Matt Gates over there
so much so that Sonny Houston, the lawyer on that set,
(05:12):
the former federal prosecutor on that set, had to read
everyone is describing it the same way because it did
look and sound like this. It is like a hostage video.
She is reading this with maximum disdain to basically admit,
because there are legal liabilities, you cannot say like some
You can't just go on and say, you know, someone
(05:33):
is a convicted sex offender because you don't like them, like,
you can't say that from your you know, you can't
lie about somebody. Now, she didn't say that, but she's
made all these allegations. She's getting very close to that line.
So here's what she had to read on air on
their show. Listen, Sonny, you legal.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I do have a legal note, Thank you, Whippy. Matt
Gates has long denied all allegations, calling the claims quote invented,
and saying in a statement to ABC News that this
smear following a three year criminal investigation should be viewed
with great skepticism. That DOJ investigation was closed with no
(06:08):
charges being brought.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
She's not excited to have to read that, But isn't
an interesting because that is all true. He was never
even charged. So now we're supposed to say that someone's
reputation should be destroyed and someone shouldn't be able to
serve in publiclay because of a charge that was never
even charged. Yeah, and look, I mean accusing somebody of
having committed a crime that they were never charged with
(06:35):
is potentially defamation, certainly, And I think one thing that
should happen is Times v. Sullivan needs to be re examined.
And for those of you out there that are not
First Amendment obsessives, I totally get it. That was basically
the framework for how First Amendment law is applied to
(06:59):
public figure. But it was written that case and decided
that case buck in a time when every person didn't
have the ability to broadcast whatever accusations they wanted, And
back in the day it was a big deal. You
used to say, your name was for most people, your
(07:20):
name was in the newspaper, maybe when you're born and
maybe when you die, and most of the time you
were not a public figure. There wasn't anything written about you.
There wasn't anything out there. I would argue. Nowadays, anybody
can go megaviral in an instant, and that's why honestly,
I wish the coving Remember the Covington Catholic kids, Nicholas
Sandman that were just outside of Lincoln the Lincoln Memorial.
(07:44):
I believe they were kids from Kentucky high school kids,
and the mainstream media just absolutely eviscerated them because they
happened to be wearing Make America Great Again hats and
they tried to turn them into awful racist and then
the four video comes out and they didn't do anything
wrong at all, and they're actually the victims. I would
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like to see one of those cases really go to
court and obliterate somewhere like CNN or somewhere like MSNBC,
because we've gotten used to this era where you can
just say anything about anyone even if it's not remotely true,
and a lot of times it can be from a
ten second video that's been doctored that isn't remotely accurate
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of what really happened. And I think, honestly, Matt Gets
probably has some legitimate cases that he could bring. And
by the way, calling Trump Hitler kind of beyond the
pale aspect of things. I think there are a lot
of guys and gals out there that have had truly
(08:48):
awful things said about them that are untrue, that probably
there should be some sort of culpability or responsibility on
behalf of the news organizations out there. They get a
lot of things wrong, completely and utterly wrong, and buck
I think a lot of times there's malice involved. Like, again,
(09:10):
the standard is actual malice, and the way that it's
written is different than maybe the way people could comprehend malice.
But do you think MSNBC isn't intentionally saying awful things
they know to be untrue about Donald Trump because they
dislike him and his politics. I think that standard is
certainly being met well. Also with public figures. It's right,
it's higher for public figures. That has to be actual malice.
(09:33):
That has to be provably false. It can't be in
reckless disregard for the truth. So, like I could say
that Keith Olberman is the worst person to have ever
worked in media, and I cannot be sued because that
is my opinion and I think a lot of people
share it. But you know, you can't say so and
so murdered somebody ten years ago. Yeah, when that's not
unless that is a statement of fact. You can't say
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things like that right. So it's interesting though that they're
walking that line over at at the I think also
they may have It's one thing to slander somebody, it's
another thing to slander somebody who's about to be the
attorney general. I mean, I don't think Matt Gates is
going to worry himself with whatever's going on over at
the view per se, I think I do you think
it's significant that they made her read that that but
(10:17):
this is what I mean. Yeah, I think that there
are there are concerns about lawsuits. I mean Trump one thing, Trump,
Trump will forgive people, uh if they if they you know,
if they if they come and they kiss the ring. Fine.
But Trump will sue people, right, I mean he is known,
this is a matter of record. I mean, he will
resort to the law, which we are all allowed to do.
He will resort to the law to solve or to
(10:39):
get redressed for these kinds of disputes. It's a good point,
by the way, remember his lawsuit against ABC, which employees
George Stepanovolis, is still outstanding because and this is actually significant.
Stepanopolis said that Trump had been found libel for rape,
which was not true at all. He was found lible
for sexual assaul. You can argue about whether or not
(11:02):
that you agree with that case, but the jury in
that case specifically found that he did not rape the
woman that had sued him, Egene Carroll. So when George
Stephanopolis made those statements, which have so far been found
to not they have been able to dismiss it. There's
possibility that there could be a liability associated with that
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because basically what he said is Trump committed a crime
and Trump did not commit a crime. And defamation per
se typically involves you saying someone committed a crime and
they're not being evidence that they did that. So that's
something that they one hundred percent for instance, that stephan
Obolis got wrong. And if I remember correctly, Buck, that
(11:44):
was actually when they were trying to get Nancy Mayce,
and I believe that was Stephanopolis saying, you're a survivor
of sexual assault, how in the world could you support
Donald Trump? You remember that it was kind of a
particularly nasty element of an interaction on them, and I
think people are finding out just this is an aside,
but you're leading me to it. I don't think you
(12:06):
want to bring the ruckus to Nancy maces. She's ready
to throw down. She's somebody who does not does not
get shaken easily by media attacks and by trying to
undermine her. We can talk more about this. She is
absolutely sticking to it. When it comes to gender segregated
bathrooms on Capitol Hill, gonna we should talk about a clay.
(12:29):
I do not think this is a small issue. I
think that I think that policy that is set by
members of Congress about what's going on in Congress matters
for the whole sets of tone and sets a precedent
for the whole country. And you know, polite is yes,
let people dress how they want, you call them what
name they want. But polite is not We have to
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live in some delusion where we no longer see objective reality.
And also this always gets left out of it. What
about the feelings of the women who don't want male
genitalia next to them in the bathroom? Like, well, what
about their feelings? What about niceness to those people. It's
one thing for somebody to dress in a dress and
claim that they are a woman. It's another thing to
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demand that you also accept them as women. And that
is where a lot of people are drawing a line look,
if you want to cross dress, I think it's a
little bit weird. But if you're an adult and that's
how you get your jolly's and that makes you happier,
go for it, right. But for you to take the
next step and say, and you have to acknowledge that
(13:37):
I am a woman and there's no difference between me
and any other woman is a bridge that most people
aren't willing to cross. And now we're actually having that
fight over what I think oftentimes is mental illness. Frankly,
but again, if you're an adult and you want to
live that way, that's you're right. But don't expect me
to have to tell you, oh, you're an actual woman,
(13:58):
because you're not your dude sending to be a chick.
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some of you might fly Spirit Airlines. It's the holidays.
(15:33):
They say that they're going to have their full flight
of normal airplanes and everything else going on. They're not canceling.
But I do think this is significant, and I haven't
heard very many people talking about it. They tried to
merge with Jet Blue and Team correct me if I'm wrong.
I believe it was Jet Blue that they were merging with.
(15:55):
And if you were a Spirit Airlines shareholder, you stood
to make a lot of money over that merger. A
federal judge looked at that merger said this will hurt consumers,
it will create antitrust related issues, and he refused to
allow the merger to happen. And now Spirit Airlines has
(16:19):
gone bankrupt and every shareholder has been completely wiped out.
In other words, that judge was one billion percent wrong
and that company doesn't exist now because he said the
merger can't happen. Now, Buck, how does that federal judge
get to keep his job. We let one dude who
(16:40):
nobody elected sit and look at all the evidence, and
that federal judge got everything completely wrong, wiped out billions
of dollars in shareholder equity, and now there is absolutely
nothing that happens to him at all. I don't know
how you could be more wrong than to say, hey,
(17:02):
consumers are not gonna benefit if this merger happens. Well,
now the entire company is bankrupt. Why are there no
consequences when people get things objectively wrong? Shouldn't something happen
to this guy like the judge when you when you
get he could be impeached. You couldn't repeach a judge.
I don't. I don't know if this would be the
big I mean, unfortunately, being a moron usually isn't considered
(17:24):
being an impeachable offense. Otherwise be a lot of people
getting impeached. Uh, but I mean for multi billion dollars
of shareholder equity to just be wiped out and this
guy to be completely wrong. We saw the aversion of
this not quite as not disastrous and with a happy ending.
But remember when they Elon's pay package for Tesla, Yes,
was based on metrics that he hit that. The shareholders
(17:47):
were like, he's never gonna hit those he did. Some
judge in Delaware was like, he shouldn't get that money. Yes, No,
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welcome back into clay Ann Boch. The media is in this.
They're trying to figure out how to stay relevant, and
I mean the old media, right, the corporate democrat media.
How to stay relevant, how to stay in the game,
how to stay above water. And that's that's a big
(19:13):
thing that's going on right now. And I think one
of the clays as we see this, one of the
realities that's going to continue unfold is they're going to
have to try new things, and that's going to be
more people of I think, different opinions who are going
on their airwaves. Do we didn't play the Scott Jennings
clip already? Did we talked about played Scott Jennings against Stelter.
(19:36):
There may be more than one Scott Jennings clip though, yes,
okay not that's all right. So here here's a here's
one that I think is well. One thing that is
very much playing out right now is the the change
in the whole media landscape that has resulted from X.
I mentioned this before, so this has cut thirteen CNN's
Harry Entin and this is remember this changing everything because
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now It's like you can find out easily. Do you
want to know what Biden actually said when they're saying
it's cheap fakes? You go on X, you search and
the video will pop up right. I mean, the algorithm
on X is working very well in terms of giving
you the top hit of whatever it is. You want
to see the original video, You'll see the original video.
You want to see commentary from people that you can trust,
because everything they tell you up to this point has
(20:24):
been true, like Clay and Buck for example. You can
go on X and find it right away. And that
has these second order effects across the media. They can't
get they cannot do the Hunter laptop suppression thing anymore.
They cannot shut down masks don't work like they did
to me on Twitter back in the day, when you
would say masks don't work, you'd get either shadow band
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or suspended. You know, they can't do these things anymore.
And X is a big part of it. It's changing
the whole media landscape. This is Harry Anton. It's c
an end pointing out that, by the way, it's also
the most bipartisan sight, meaning that it's a place that
we're suppose I used to think that this is good
for the country to have a town hall, a town
square play thirteen.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Back in twenty twenty two, sixty five percent of those
who regularly use Twitter slash x for news we're Democrats,
just thirty one percent were Republicans. Looked at where we
are today, just a completely different picture.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Now it's basically split.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Between Democrats at forty eight percent Republicans at forty seven percent.
And what I should know is this, now, this new
overall makeup matches the overall electorate far better and more
than that. Look at where mister Musk's net worth is
today versus where it was just two months ago. He
is the richest man in the world by far. Two
months ago, look at this, his net worth was two
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hundred and fifty two billion. Looked at where we are
today three hundred and fourteen billion. He is by far
the richest man ever to be on this planet. So, yes,
he's not as popular. Yes, Twitter slash x perhaps is
not as popular, but it's a much different platform, one
that more represents Elon Musk, let's say, political instincts, and
he is now a far wealthy man.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I have a lot of feelings on this, like one
is first of all, Elon Musk has done more to
save free speech online than any other person alive, So
he deserves a tremendous amount of credit for that. Also, Clay,
this is what we were promised social media was going
to be twenty years ago. It was going to be
a platform for the exchange of media, ideas, videos, et cetera.
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And it was really in the Trump era that you
saw it go all in on. No, this is a
vehicle for Democrat partisan propaganda. X has brought balance to it.
Notice also all these Democrats that have stopped using it
because they needed a rigged game, They needed a rigged
playing field. You know what I used to have. Occasionally
they would they would do like a dog pile of
me back in the day, all these like you know,
(22:44):
C list commentators and even actors and things with blue
checks when blue checks were you know, only for famous people.
And all of a sudden I have all these people
like getting angry at me and trashing me, like how
did this happen? That never happens anymore because our team,
our people can weigh in and see it as well.
The whole the game was rigged. I think it's not
only that the whole game was rigged. It's that in
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the wake of Trump winning, there is a palpable fear
that there is going to be investigations. And everybody's got
magnifying glasses out now, and they're looking at all these
algorithms and they're saying, how fair were they? And I'll
give you an example of what I'm seeing, Buck, at OutKick.
Our traffic at OutKick dot com has skyrocketed in October
(23:31):
and November on Google, on Facebook, on so many other
platforms out there. And I think what's happened is, now
that Trump has won the election, there is a fear
that investigations are going to uncover just how much of
a rig job has been going on at Google. And
remember we said this and other tech platforms like that.
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You and I said this was maybe the most significant
aspect of Elon buying Twitter back, and he did, was
it was going to force other algorithms to be public
in a way that they had not in the past.
And what they were doing was rigging things in such
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a way that the far left wing benefited. You think
it's coincidental, Buck, Just think about this. When's the last
time you saw a viral story about a police shooting.
Basically since George Floyd, we've now gone. I thought we'd
get one in the run up to this election to
try to, you know, drum up angst and try to
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drive turnout we've now gone. I was just a big
part of this class body cams. So many cops have
body cams now, but you know, you find out most
of the time when the cops shoot somebody ninety nine
percent of the time, and the cops shoot somebody, they
should have shot them. Yeah, they're in danger. I think
that has helped, But I also think this idea that
police are the enemy over the last four years has
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gone away, has gone up. I guess probably the last
time there was a viral video of police misbehavior, correct
me if I'm wrong, was Tyree Nichols in Memphis. And
remember those were all black cops. I was gonna I
mean you, you jumped right to the end there with nobody.
Nobody cared about that very much. Isn't that interesting that
story vanished because the cops were black. And so my
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point on it in general is I think they were
rigging the system to such an extent that things went
viral in a way that was not remotely representative of
what the real world cared. Oh, Clay, I don't think.
I don't think we know that was happening. I mean,
Elon has spoken to this. I mean, I agree with
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what you're saying. I'm just saying this isn't a theory.
There's tons of evidence and I think it's basically a certainty. Now,
what were what were the eighty percent of people that
were fired from food are doing? They were actually going
into the system. Elon, who owned it and has you know,
super user access because you see anything wants, has spoken
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to this, and he had the Twitter files, and we've
seen some of the Twitter files. Unfortunately, they didn't do
as good a job I think of highlighting some of
the important stuff as they could have with that, I
mean the individuals who did it. But whatever they tried,
I appreciate that. But there's a little got a little convoluted.
There were people who were taking action on individual things
like exactly what we're talking about. Somebody inside Twitter maybe
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that whole little meeting. They probably cry first like oh,
let's get it all out, you know together, they'd all
hold each other and have a safe space moment, and
then they decide what trends and what doesn't trend. This
is the same thing the New York Times bestseller list.
I mean, you know, Clay, I know this is a
sore spot because you sold a lot of books, But
they really given number two on the nonfiction list based
on actual number soul actual sales number one. Yes, didn't
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make the top fifteen in the New York Times, I
mean the New York Times. The New York Times is like, oh,
you're a conservative book, not going on the list. I mean,
there are some exceptions to that. There's some people sell
like you know, and I honestly can't even explain why
they make those exceptions. Maybe it's who they find too
offensive and who they are willing to put on the list.
But generally speaking, that list is garbage because it's not
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really a it's a list of books that sell that
the New York Times book people like. It's not actually
a it's not actually a who won the race, it's
who had the best time in the race that they
still like. And let's give you an example of that
book that when my book came out, we sold seventeen
thousand copies week one. They had books on the New
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York Times bestseller nonfiction list that sold one seventeenth of
the number of books that I sold that were ranked
as one of the best sellers. It's there is just
it's a good example of how they can rig the
game in a way that they see fit. Also, I
mean honestly, and I know this matters because however you
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get your information, if you get your information from radio,
Thank you very much. We listened to the podcasts of
this show. I'm talking about the infrastructure of the information
ecosystem that we have like this. This is the pipes,
this is the wires. This is what allows us to
know what's going on. This is why Trump's victory was
(28:12):
even possible. Right, And I've described this before Clay twenty sixteen,
Trump in an incredible fashion, essentially piggybacks off of the
Democrat corporate media thinking that he's a joke, so that
they run They were running him live on CNN, right,
they were running him live on CNN taking his rallies.
(28:33):
Oh haha, so silly. And then of course we all
found out who got the last laugh when Hillary had
her tears twenty twenty, they turned it around. They decided
we're gonna shut down, We're gonna control the infant We're
gonna use COVID as the excuse. We're gonna control the
information ecosystem. We're going to shadow band, We're going to
deep platform. We're going to shut down Amazon web servers
(28:54):
to get Parlor off the Internet. I've never off the Internet.
Not justly terrifying what they did this, which was that
that was a sea change moment, that was a rubicon crossed,
and Elon realized it, especially when the Babylon b got
banned from making a joke, a joke that was true
as well, which is white upset the left so much.
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We now have broken the stranglehold. That doesn't mean they
don't still have an advantage. They have a huge advantage.
Doesn't mean they don't still have more platforms and more
reach Netflix, Amazon, Google. These are huge problems for free speech,
huge problems for our side going forward. But they used
to just be able to say nope, done, shut down.
That has changed now and I think everything that we
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see in the Trump administration going forward will be affected
by the message and the truth can get out to
people at least somewhere. And then, as I say it, felt,
you know, if you're just listening to your you know,
you're listening to the local radio guy in the morning,
or you're a podcast listener. You still watch you know,
TV news that is affected by the fact that people
(29:58):
can now get their information from a place that is
not an entirely rigged game in favor of the Democrat narrative.
It is. It's massive. I mean, I honestly, I think
it's one of the biggest pieces of how Trump was
able to win the election because people were able to
find out what was really going on. And I think
it's also important buck as we've got to break here. Remember,
Elon sees this as the key to allowing multiplanetary life.
(30:22):
He wants people to be living on Mars, and he
believes that if we don't have full intellectual freedom, if
the so called woke mind virus kurtails human advancement, then
we are as a species doomed to fail. And I
do think that's really kind of fascinating to think about
in the context of the larger aspects of why he
(30:45):
decided he needed to buy Twitter. Also, there's a lot
of people making fun like, oh, he's losing money on Twitter,
Like do you know that he had founded an AI
company based partly on the data that is regularly rolling
through X that is now I believe at over fifty
billion dollars. In addition to Tesla, in addition to SpaceX,
(31:06):
in addition to the boring company, he now has Twitter
and Xai, which is predicated to a large extent on
all of the tweets populating a new AI service. And
it is right now looking like it's going to be
a great business that's going to be worth more than
he paid for Twitter by itself. So guys kind of
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My friend and Alexi Laalss. You know you guys gohirtless
for this one? Are you just you know, you kept
it all closed. I don't know that anybody needs me
to go shirtless. I don't know that there's a you know,
(34:11):
I did meet Sylvester stallone. Let's just say that I
am not rippling with the muscles in every direction. I
have dad bod going as most dads do, but not
even dad yet. I got a dad bod, so you
know what I mean. It's no judgment here. Yeah, one
hundred I can benche press one hundred and eighty five
pounds ten times, which is kind of a big deal.
We've got You were talking about the people who are
(34:33):
running and hiding now on social media. I thought this
was interesting. Piers Morgan, to his credit, has a lot
of people different opinions on his show, which is distributed
through YouTube to your point, Buck, which has become a
really prominent place to go out and watch. My kids
watch YouTube exclusively. Alan Wickman is a incredible conceited dude
(34:56):
who has all these keys to the election, and he said,
com La Harris is gonna win his keys never failed.
He told everybody exactly what was going to happen, and
then the keys failed. And this is what it sounded
like when they got going at it, sink Weiger. How
do you pronounce this guy's last name? I'm not sure?
Jink j Sees in Turkish are like are are like uh,
(35:18):
pronounced it like a J, and gee's are pronounced like
a W, so it's like aird wan and then the
sea with the weird thing on it is like a J.
So it's Jenk. What's the last name? I actually I
don't know his last Jenks versus Alan Wickman. This was yesterday.
I think you guys will enjoy it. Listen. I debated
Professor Lickman before I told him his theories about the
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keys were absurd. I was right, he was wrong. I
said he'd lose his keys.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
Wrong, and that's a cheap shot. And I won't stand
for who should not be me? You don't know at
so deluded, moustrously and stupidly wrong.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
So okay, all right, can I just finish? The guy started? Hey, Alan,
you deserve a tall glass.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Of shut up juice, So can you just shut up
for a second and let someone.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Who knows when they're doing so.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
I will not sit here and sell for personal attacks,
for blasphemy against me.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
You don't need to do that. Blasphemy are Jesus Christ.
That's a great line, bilasphemy against you. So this guy
Alan Lickman, whose keys were all wrong, he said Tablo,
is gonna win. He announced this morning Buck, in the
wake of this debate, that he is leaving Twitter and
(36:41):
going to Blue Sky. A lot of leftists very soft,
running and hiding for the hills as they are being
held accountable for all their screw ups. I thought you
guys would enjoy that. What a loser that guy is.
All right, second hour, Clay end buck, get's going right now,
and we had mentioned this before. Let's just line up
the latest again, the latest picks that Trump has made
or is in process of making. Some of these have
been announced already, met Oz, Doctor Oz, that's right. He
(00:21):
has been tapped to oversee Medicare and Medicaid. So that's
what's going on there. Interesting the senator Medicare and Medicaid
Services CMS. Okay, injury. I mean a very smart guy,
very successful guy. Doctor I mean, I if he wants
that job, I think we're lucky to have him in
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that job. Quite honestly. I you know, people aren't usually
beating down the President's door to behead of CMS. It
is a massively important entity though as we know, right
that's it's one of these jobs that doesn't sound as
as sexy, if you will, but it definitely matters. So
doctor Oz taking that I see this as him wanting
(01:03):
to serve, which is what we want. We actually want
people who take these jobs. I know Clay agrees with
on this. We want people who take these jobs to
do good things for the American people, not to pad
their book advance for a book nobody will read and
you know, to up their speaking fees after they've been
you know, secretary of whatever for a couple of years. Right,
(01:25):
So I think doctor Oz, that's a good pick. Linda
McMahon Education Secretary. I think she's aligned with the Trump
agenda on education. She knows how to run a business.
She's very close with Trump. Obviously got plenty of money.
Sean Duffy we talked about Transportation Secretary, which he's great.
I'm just laughing because they're like, they're going back to
(01:47):
the real It was a Real World or road Rule.
He was on Real World way back, I think, right,
I hate to be an expert on this. I believe
Buck he was on Real World. He was then on
Real World road Rules Challenge, which was a spinoff and
I this is like and then he was, I believe,
on The Challenge, which is one of the longest running
(02:11):
shows on cable. Surely you've watched this. I guarantee Kerry
has watched this. This was the TJ oh God. TJ.
Lavin hosts this show where they have like basic crazy
competitions all over the world between You've never seen this show.
Never seen this show. It's one of the I think
I'm correct in this and many of you. There's a
(02:33):
huge percentage of people that are like, yes, Clay, that
show is amazing, and then there's a huge percentage of
people that have never heard of this at all. It's
one of the most popular shows on cable now and
it basically is former Real World and road Rules contestants,
reality show people competing in basically sportslike events that is
(02:57):
somewhat survivor like for MTV. So anyway, wow, you're not
an ex Clay apparently, and like the Pantheon of Clay knowledge,
it's college football. And then somewhere up around there is
MTV Real World spin off show Loved. I loved the
Real World shows in the nineties and the early I
(03:19):
am an expert on the early nineties era Real World
in early two thousand. So those are the picks that
have been announced. One pick that has been talked about.
One choice that we would love to see and I
tease this before in the last hour, that to run
nih National Institute of Health. There is there are reports
(03:41):
that President Trump is considering doctor Batacharia. Doctor J. Batacharia
one of the best people in the medical field when
it counted, when it counted, when it was hard when
people were, you know, being silenced and shouted down and
threatened in their career, being undermined. Doctor j. Boticharia was
(04:03):
a stud when it counted, and having him at the
NIH and to do a real you know, hot wash,
I mean to really figure out where it is that
all this stuff went wrong, why there were no processes
to come forward with the truth, and basically figure out
how that little little turd Fauci was able to do
what he did. That is that would be phenomenal for
(04:25):
doctor Batachari, I think to be in that pick. But
one thing that I thought was kind of funny Clay.
Over at the View, they are not particularly excited about
well much of anything these days. As you might have seen.
It's kind of like an ongoing funeral over there, a
funeral for the America that they think exists, that never
really existed, but whatever, a funeral for democracy since the
(04:48):
people chose Donald Trump, that that means democracy must be dead.
They're very sad over at the View, and at least
a couple of their hosts are very opposed to the
Trump nominees and particularly Gates, and they have said some
very not nice things about mister Matt Gates over there
so much so that Sonny Houston, the lawyer on that set,
(05:12):
the former federal prosecutor on that set, had to read
everyone is describing it the same way because it did
look and sound like this. It is like a hostage video.
She is reading this with maximum disdain to basically admit,
because there are legal liabilities, you cannot say like some
You can't just go on and say, you know, someone
(05:33):
is a convicted sex offender because you don't like them, like,
you can't say that from your you know, you can't
lie about somebody. Now, she didn't say that, but she's
made all these allegations. She's getting very close to that line.
So here's what she had to read on air on
their show. Listen, Sonny, you legal.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I do have a legal note, Thank you, Whippy. Matt
Gates has long denied all allegations, calling the claims quote invented,
and saying in a statement to ABC News that this
smear following a three year criminal investigation should be viewed
with great skepticism. That DOJ investigation was closed with no
(06:08):
charges being brought.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
She's not excited to have to read that, But isn't
an interesting because that is all true. He was never
even charged. So now we're supposed to say that someone's
reputation should be destroyed and someone shouldn't be able to
serve in publiclay because of a charge that was never
even charged. Yeah, and look, I mean accusing somebody of
having committed a crime that they were never charged with
(06:35):
is potentially defamation, certainly, And I think one thing that
should happen is Times v. Sullivan needs to be re examined.
And for those of you out there that are not
First Amendment obsessives, I totally get it. That was basically
the framework for how First Amendment law is applied to
(06:59):
public figure. But it was written that case and decided
that case buck in a time when every person didn't
have the ability to broadcast whatever accusations they wanted, And
back in the day it was a big deal. You
used to say, your name was for most people, your
(07:20):
name was in the newspaper, maybe when you're born and
maybe when you die, and most of the time you
were not a public figure. There wasn't anything written about you.
There wasn't anything out there. I would argue. Nowadays, anybody
can go megaviral in an instant, and that's why honestly,
I wish the coving Remember the Covington Catholic kids, Nicholas
Sandman that were just outside of Lincoln the Lincoln Memorial.
(07:44):
I believe they were kids from Kentucky high school kids,
and the mainstream media just absolutely eviscerated them because they
happened to be wearing Make America Great Again hats and
they tried to turn them into awful racist and then
the four video comes out and they didn't do anything
wrong at all, and they're actually the victims. I would
(08:05):
like to see one of those cases really go to
court and obliterate somewhere like CNN or somewhere like MSNBC,
because we've gotten used to this era where you can
just say anything about anyone even if it's not remotely true,
and a lot of times it can be from a
ten second video that's been doctored that isn't remotely accurate
(08:27):
of what really happened. And I think, honestly, Matt Gets
probably has some legitimate cases that he could bring. And
by the way, calling Trump Hitler kind of beyond the
pale aspect of things. I think there are a lot
of guys and gals out there that have had truly
(08:48):
awful things said about them that are untrue, that probably
there should be some sort of culpability or responsibility on
behalf of the news organizations out there. They get a
lot of things wrong, completely and utterly wrong, and buck
I think a lot of times there's malice involved. Like, again,
(09:10):
the standard is actual malice, and the way that it's
written is different than maybe the way people could comprehend malice.
But do you think MSNBC isn't intentionally saying awful things
they know to be untrue about Donald Trump because they
dislike him and his politics. I think that standard is
certainly being met well. Also with public figures. It's right,
it's higher for public figures. That has to be actual malice.
(09:33):
That has to be provably false. It can't be in
reckless disregard for the truth. So, like I could say
that Keith Olberman is the worst person to have ever
worked in media, and I cannot be sued because that
is my opinion and I think a lot of people
share it. But you know, you can't say so and
so murdered somebody ten years ago. Yeah, when that's not
unless that is a statement of fact. You can't say
(09:54):
things like that right. So it's interesting though that they're
walking that line over at at the I think also
they may have It's one thing to slander somebody, it's
another thing to slander somebody who's about to be the
attorney general. I mean, I don't think Matt Gates is
going to worry himself with whatever's going on over at
the view per se, I think I do you think
it's significant that they made her read that that but
(10:17):
this is what I mean. Yeah, I think that there
are there are concerns about lawsuits. I mean Trump one thing, Trump,
Trump will forgive people, uh if they if they you know,
if they if they come and they kiss the ring. Fine.
But Trump will sue people, right, I mean he is known,
this is a matter of record. I mean, he will
resort to the law, which we are all allowed to do.
He will resort to the law to solve or to
(10:39):
get redressed for these kinds of disputes. It's a good point,
by the way, remember his lawsuit against ABC, which employees
George Stepanovolis, is still outstanding because and this is actually significant.
Stepanopolis said that Trump had been found libel for rape,
which was not true at all. He was found lible
for sexual assaul. You can argue about whether or not
(11:02):
that you agree with that case, but the jury in
that case specifically found that he did not rape the
woman that had sued him, Egene Carroll. So when George
Stephanopolis made those statements, which have so far been found
to not they have been able to dismiss it. There's
possibility that there could be a liability associated with that
(11:23):
because basically what he said is Trump committed a crime
and Trump did not commit a crime. And defamation per
se typically involves you saying someone committed a crime and
they're not being evidence that they did that. So that's
something that they one hundred percent for instance, that stephan
Obolis got wrong. And if I remember correctly, Buck, that
(11:44):
was actually when they were trying to get Nancy Mayce,
and I believe that was Stephanopolis saying, you're a survivor
of sexual assault, how in the world could you support
Donald Trump? You remember that it was kind of a
particularly nasty element of an interaction on them, and I
think people are finding out just this is an aside,
but you're leading me to it. I don't think you
(12:06):
want to bring the ruckus to Nancy maces. She's ready
to throw down. She's somebody who does not does not
get shaken easily by media attacks and by trying to
undermine her. We can talk more about this. She is
absolutely sticking to it. When it comes to gender segregated
bathrooms on Capitol Hill, gonna we should talk about a clay.
(12:29):
I do not think this is a small issue. I
think that I think that policy that is set by
members of Congress about what's going on in Congress matters
for the whole sets of tone and sets a precedent
for the whole country. And you know, polite is yes,
let people dress how they want, you call them what
name they want. But polite is not We have to
(12:52):
live in some delusion where we no longer see objective reality.
And also this always gets left out of it. What
about the feelings of the women who don't want male
genitalia next to them in the bathroom? Like, well, what
about their feelings? What about niceness to those people. It's
one thing for somebody to dress in a dress and
claim that they are a woman. It's another thing to
(13:14):
demand that you also accept them as women. And that
is where a lot of people are drawing a line look,
if you want to cross dress, I think it's a
little bit weird. But if you're an adult and that's
how you get your jolly's and that makes you happier,
go for it, right. But for you to take the
next step and say, and you have to acknowledge that
(13:37):
I am a woman and there's no difference between me
and any other woman is a bridge that most people
aren't willing to cross. And now we're actually having that
fight over what I think oftentimes is mental illness. Frankly,
but again, if you're an adult and you want to
live that way, that's you're right. But don't expect me
to have to tell you, oh, you're an actual woman,
(13:58):
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discussed it on the program back when it happened. Spirit
Airlines has filed for bankruptcy. Why does that matter? Okay,
some of you might fly Spirit Airlines. It's the holidays.
(15:33):
They say that they're going to have their full flight
of normal airplanes and everything else going on. They're not canceling.
But I do think this is significant, and I haven't
heard very many people talking about it. They tried to
merge with Jet Blue and Team correct me if I'm wrong.
I believe it was Jet Blue that they were merging with.
(15:55):
And if you were a Spirit Airlines shareholder, you stood
to make a lot of money over that merger. A
federal judge looked at that merger said this will hurt consumers,
it will create antitrust related issues, and he refused to
allow the merger to happen. And now Spirit Airlines has
(16:19):
gone bankrupt and every shareholder has been completely wiped out.
In other words, that judge was one billion percent wrong
and that company doesn't exist now because he said the
merger can't happen. Now, Buck, how does that federal judge
get to keep his job. We let one dude who
(16:40):
nobody elected sit and look at all the evidence, and
that federal judge got everything completely wrong, wiped out billions
of dollars in shareholder equity, and now there is absolutely
nothing that happens to him at all. I don't know
how you could be more wrong than to say, hey,
(17:02):
consumers are not gonna benefit if this merger happens. Well,
now the entire company is bankrupt. Why are there no
consequences when people get things objectively wrong? Shouldn't something happen
to this guy like the judge when you when you
get he could be impeached. You couldn't repeach a judge.
I don't. I don't know if this would be the
big I mean, unfortunately, being a moron usually isn't considered
(17:24):
being an impeachable offense. Otherwise be a lot of people
getting impeached. Uh, but I mean for multi billion dollars
of shareholder equity to just be wiped out and this
guy to be completely wrong. We saw the aversion of
this not quite as not disastrous and with a happy ending.
But remember when they Elon's pay package for Tesla, Yes,
was based on metrics that he hit that. The shareholders
(17:47):
were like, he's never gonna hit those he did. Some
judge in Delaware was like, he shouldn't get that money. Yes, No,
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welcome back into clay Ann Boch. The media is in this.
They're trying to figure out how to stay relevant, and
I mean the old media, right, the corporate democrat media.
How to stay relevant, how to stay in the game,
how to stay above water. And that's that's a big
(19:13):
thing that's going on right now. And I think one
of the clays as we see this, one of the
realities that's going to continue unfold is they're going to
have to try new things, and that's going to be
more people of I think, different opinions who are going
on their airwaves. Do we didn't play the Scott Jennings
clip already? Did we talked about played Scott Jennings against Stelter.
(19:36):
There may be more than one Scott Jennings clip though, yes,
okay not that's all right. So here here's a here's
one that I think is well. One thing that is
very much playing out right now is the the change
in the whole media landscape that has resulted from X.
I mentioned this before, so this has cut thirteen CNN's
Harry Entin and this is remember this changing everything because
(20:01):
now It's like you can find out easily. Do you
want to know what Biden actually said when they're saying
it's cheap fakes? You go on X, you search and
the video will pop up right. I mean, the algorithm
on X is working very well in terms of giving
you the top hit of whatever it is. You want
to see the original video, You'll see the original video.
You want to see commentary from people that you can trust,
because everything they tell you up to this point has
(20:24):
been true, like Clay and Buck for example. You can
go on X and find it right away. And that
has these second order effects across the media. They can't
get they cannot do the Hunter laptop suppression thing anymore.
They cannot shut down masks don't work like they did
to me on Twitter back in the day, when you
would say masks don't work, you'd get either shadow band
(20:46):
or suspended. You know, they can't do these things anymore.
And X is a big part of it. It's changing
the whole media landscape. This is Harry Anton. It's c
an end pointing out that, by the way, it's also
the most bipartisan sight, meaning that it's a place that
we're suppose I used to think that this is good
for the country to have a town hall, a town
square play thirteen.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Back in twenty twenty two, sixty five percent of those
who regularly use Twitter slash x for news we're Democrats,
just thirty one percent were Republicans. Looked at where we
are today, just a completely different picture.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Now it's basically split.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Between Democrats at forty eight percent Republicans at forty seven percent.
And what I should know is this, now, this new
overall makeup matches the overall electorate far better and more
than that. Look at where mister Musk's net worth is
today versus where it was just two months ago. He
is the richest man in the world by far. Two
months ago, look at this, his net worth was two
(21:38):
hundred and fifty two billion. Looked at where we are
today three hundred and fourteen billion. He is by far
the richest man ever to be on this planet. So, yes,
he's not as popular. Yes, Twitter slash x perhaps is
not as popular, but it's a much different platform, one
that more represents Elon Musk, let's say, political instincts, and
he is now a far wealthy man.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I have a lot of feelings on this, like one
is first of all, Elon Musk has done more to
save free speech online than any other person alive, So
he deserves a tremendous amount of credit for that. Also, Clay,
this is what we were promised social media was going
to be twenty years ago. It was going to be
a platform for the exchange of media, ideas, videos, et cetera.
(22:22):
And it was really in the Trump era that you
saw it go all in on. No, this is a
vehicle for Democrat partisan propaganda. X has brought balance to it.
Notice also all these Democrats that have stopped using it
because they needed a rigged game, They needed a rigged
playing field. You know what I used to have. Occasionally
they would they would do like a dog pile of
me back in the day, all these like you know,
(22:44):
C list commentators and even actors and things with blue
checks when blue checks were you know, only for famous people.
And all of a sudden I have all these people
like getting angry at me and trashing me, like how
did this happen? That never happens anymore because our team,
our people can weigh in and see it as well.
The whole the game was rigged. I think it's not
only that the whole game was rigged. It's that in
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the wake of Trump winning, there is a palpable fear
that there is going to be investigations. And everybody's got
magnifying glasses out now, and they're looking at all these
algorithms and they're saying, how fair were they? And I'll
give you an example of what I'm seeing, Buck, at OutKick.
Our traffic at OutKick dot com has skyrocketed in October
(23:31):
and November on Google, on Facebook, on so many other
platforms out there. And I think what's happened is, now
that Trump has won the election, there is a fear
that investigations are going to uncover just how much of
a rig job has been going on at Google. And
remember we said this and other tech platforms like that.
(23:53):
You and I said this was maybe the most significant
aspect of Elon buying Twitter back, and he did, was
it was going to force other algorithms to be public
in a way that they had not in the past.
And what they were doing was rigging things in such
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a way that the far left wing benefited. You think
it's coincidental, Buck, Just think about this. When's the last
time you saw a viral story about a police shooting.
Basically since George Floyd, we've now gone. I thought we'd
get one in the run up to this election to
try to, you know, drum up angst and try to
(24:35):
drive turnout we've now gone. I was just a big
part of this class body cams. So many cops have
body cams now, but you know, you find out most
of the time when the cops shoot somebody ninety nine
percent of the time, and the cops shoot somebody, they
should have shot them. Yeah, they're in danger. I think
that has helped, But I also think this idea that
police are the enemy over the last four years has
(24:58):
gone away, has gone up. I guess probably the last
time there was a viral video of police misbehavior, correct
me if I'm wrong, was Tyree Nichols in Memphis. And
remember those were all black cops. I was gonna I
mean you, you jumped right to the end there with nobody.
Nobody cared about that very much. Isn't that interesting that
story vanished because the cops were black. And so my
(25:22):
point on it in general is I think they were
rigging the system to such an extent that things went
viral in a way that was not remotely representative of
what the real world cared. Oh, Clay, I don't think.
I don't think we know that was happening. I mean,
Elon has spoken to this. I mean, I agree with
(25:42):
what you're saying. I'm just saying this isn't a theory.
There's tons of evidence and I think it's basically a certainty. Now,
what were what were the eighty percent of people that
were fired from food are doing? They were actually going
into the system. Elon, who owned it and has you know,
super user access because you see anything wants, has spoken
(26:04):
to this, and he had the Twitter files, and we've
seen some of the Twitter files. Unfortunately, they didn't do
as good a job I think of highlighting some of
the important stuff as they could have with that, I
mean the individuals who did it. But whatever they tried,
I appreciate that. But there's a little got a little convoluted.
There were people who were taking action on individual things
like exactly what we're talking about. Somebody inside Twitter maybe
(26:26):
that whole little meeting. They probably cry first like oh,
let's get it all out, you know together, they'd all
hold each other and have a safe space moment, and
then they decide what trends and what doesn't trend. This
is the same thing the New York Times bestseller list.
I mean, you know, Clay, I know this is a
sore spot because you sold a lot of books, But
they really given number two on the nonfiction list based
on actual number soul actual sales number one. Yes, didn't
(26:49):
make the top fifteen in the New York Times, I
mean the New York Times. The New York Times is like, oh,
you're a conservative book, not going on the list. I mean,
there are some exceptions to that. There's some people sell
like you know, and I honestly can't even explain why
they make those exceptions. Maybe it's who they find too
offensive and who they are willing to put on the list.
But generally speaking, that list is garbage because it's not
(27:09):
really a it's a list of books that sell that
the New York Times book people like. It's not actually
a it's not actually a who won the race, it's
who had the best time in the race that they
still like. And let's give you an example of that
book that when my book came out, we sold seventeen
thousand copies week one. They had books on the New
(27:29):
York Times bestseller nonfiction list that sold one seventeenth of
the number of books that I sold that were ranked
as one of the best sellers. It's there is just
it's a good example of how they can rig the
game in a way that they see fit. Also, I
mean honestly, and I know this matters because however you
(27:51):
get your information, if you get your information from radio,
Thank you very much. We listened to the podcasts of
this show. I'm talking about the infrastructure of the information
ecosystem that we have like this. This is the pipes,
this is the wires. This is what allows us to
know what's going on. This is why Trump's victory was
(28:12):
even possible. Right, And I've described this before Clay twenty sixteen,
Trump in an incredible fashion, essentially piggybacks off of the
Democrat corporate media thinking that he's a joke, so that
they run They were running him live on CNN, right,
they were running him live on CNN taking his rallies.
(28:33):
Oh haha, so silly. And then of course we all
found out who got the last laugh when Hillary had
her tears twenty twenty, they turned it around. They decided
we're gonna shut down, We're gonna control the infant We're
gonna use COVID as the excuse. We're gonna control the
information ecosystem. We're going to shadow band, We're going to
deep platform. We're going to shut down Amazon web servers
(28:54):
to get Parlor off the Internet. I've never off the Internet.
Not justly terrifying what they did this, which was that
that was a sea change moment, that was a rubicon crossed,
and Elon realized it, especially when the Babylon b got
banned from making a joke, a joke that was true
as well, which is white upset the left so much.
(29:15):
We now have broken the stranglehold. That doesn't mean they
don't still have an advantage. They have a huge advantage.
Doesn't mean they don't still have more platforms and more
reach Netflix, Amazon, Google. These are huge problems for free speech,
huge problems for our side going forward. But they used
to just be able to say nope, done, shut down.
That has changed now and I think everything that we
(29:38):
see in the Trump administration going forward will be affected
by the message and the truth can get out to
people at least somewhere. And then, as I say it, felt,
you know, if you're just listening to your you know,
you're listening to the local radio guy in the morning,
or you're a podcast listener. You still watch you know,
TV news that is affected by the fact that people
(29:58):
can now get their information from a place that is
not an entirely rigged game in favor of the Democrat narrative.
It is. It's massive. I mean, I honestly, I think
it's one of the biggest pieces of how Trump was
able to win the election because people were able to
find out what was really going on. And I think
it's also important buck as we've got to break here. Remember,
Elon sees this as the key to allowing multiplanetary life.
(30:22):
He wants people to be living on Mars, and he
believes that if we don't have full intellectual freedom, if
the so called woke mind virus kurtails human advancement, then
we are as a species doomed to fail. And I
do think that's really kind of fascinating to think about
in the context of the larger aspects of why he
(30:45):
decided he needed to buy Twitter. Also, there's a lot
of people making fun like, oh, he's losing money on Twitter,
Like do you know that he had founded an AI
company based partly on the data that is regularly rolling
through X that is now I believe at over fifty
billion dollars. In addition to Tesla, in addition to SpaceX,
(31:06):
in addition to the boring company, he now has Twitter
and Xai, which is predicated to a large extent on
all of the tweets populating a new AI service. And
it is right now looking like it's going to be
a great business that's going to be worth more than
he paid for Twitter by itself. So guys kind of
(31:27):
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wanted to bring the holiday, joy, festivity, Merry Christmas to
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everyone and what has been a tempestuous time, and so
we did the Trump Dance on Radeo Drive last night.
It's up on and we'll put that up on Claymbuck
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gonna say, we got to make this premium VIP content.
My friend and Alexi Laalss. You know you guys gohirtless
for this one? Are you just you know, you kept
it all closed. I don't know that anybody needs me
to go shirtless. I don't know that there's a you know,
(34:11):
I did meet Sylvester stallone. Let's just say that I
am not rippling with the muscles in every direction. I
have dad bod going as most dads do, but not
even dad yet. I got a dad bod, so you
know what I mean. It's no judgment here. Yeah, one
hundred I can benche press one hundred and eighty five
pounds ten times, which is kind of a big deal.
We've got You were talking about the people who are
(34:33):
running and hiding now on social media. I thought this
was interesting. Piers Morgan, to his credit, has a lot
of people different opinions on his show, which is distributed
through YouTube to your point, Buck, which has become a
really prominent place to go out and watch. My kids
watch YouTube exclusively. Alan Wickman is a incredible conceited dude
(34:56):
who has all these keys to the election, and he said,
com La Harris is gonna win his keys never failed.
He told everybody exactly what was going to happen, and
then the keys failed. And this is what it sounded
like when they got going at it, sink Weiger. How
do you pronounce this guy's last name? I'm not sure?
Jink j Sees in Turkish are like are are like uh,
(35:18):
pronounced it like a J, and gee's are pronounced like
a W, so it's like aird wan and then the
sea with the weird thing on it is like a J.
So it's Jenk. What's the last name? I actually I
don't know his last Jenks versus Alan Wickman. This was yesterday.
I think you guys will enjoy it. Listen. I debated
Professor Lickman before I told him his theories about the
(35:41):
keys were absurd. I was right, he was wrong. I
said he'd lose his keys.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
Wrong, and that's a cheap shot. And I won't stand
for who should not be me? You don't know at
so deluded, moustrously and stupidly wrong.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
So okay, all right, can I just finish? The guy started? Hey, Alan,
you deserve a tall glass.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Of shut up juice, So can you just shut up
for a second and let someone.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Who knows when they're doing so.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
I will not sit here and sell for personal attacks,
for blasphemy against me.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
You don't need to do that. Blasphemy are Jesus Christ.
That's a great line, bilasphemy against you. So this guy
Alan Lickman, whose keys were all wrong, he said Tablo,
is gonna win. He announced this morning Buck, in the
wake of this debate, that he is leaving Twitter and
(36:41):
going to Blue Sky. A lot of leftists very soft,
running and hiding for the hills as they are being
held accountable for all their screw ups. I thought you
guys would enjoy that. What a loser that guy is.
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