October 10, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show zeroes in on the high-stakes Virginia gubernatorial race and the explosive fallout from the latest debate. Clay and Buck dissect Abigail Spanberger’s evasive answers on hot-button issues like transgender athletes in girls’ sports and bathroom policies, highlighting her repeated refusal to give a clear yes-or-no response. The hosts argue this reflects the broader Democratic strategy of masking progressive positions until after elections.
The conversation intensifies with the Jay Jones controversy, where the Democratic candidate for Virginia Attorney General faces backlash for vile text messages advocating violence, including wishing death on the children of political opponents and fantasizing about shooting a Republican leader. Clay and Buck slam the lack of accountability from Virginia Democrats and question why Spanberger continues to dodge questions about endorsing Jones.
Listeners then hear a powerful interview with Virginia Attorney General Jason Miyares, who calls Jones’ comments “astonishing” and “disqualifying.” Miyares details the ethical and moral crisis this represents, emphasizing that the election is now about “right versus wrong.” He also outlines his record on reducing violent crime, combating fentanyl trafficking, and achieving the nation’s largest drop in addiction deaths, crediting partnerships with law enforcement and targeted action against repeat violent offenders.
The hour also features sharp debate analysis, including Winsome Sears’ fiery takedown of Spanberger during the debate, and a discussion on the broader implications for law enforcement, political civility, and public safety in Virginia and beyond.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We are
tracking down all of the big stories out there. At
the bottom of the hour, Jason Miarez, who is the
Attorney General of the state of Virginia running for reelection
in about three weeks against a guy who frankly has
done some said some pretty awful things. We will get
(00:21):
into all of that with him, and then in the
third hour we're going to be joined by our friend
Jack Carr, who is one of the most successful fiction
writers in America right now, and he's got a brand
new book out.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
We will discuss that with him.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
But I was reading this Buck, and I want to
make sure that I get this, and I probably am
mispronouncing this guy's name, but his name is Eric Pacifici,
and again I apologize if I mispronounce that he is
a attorney. And he has a good thread that I
was reading during the most recent commercial break, and I
just want to hit this because it goes directly to
(00:57):
what we were talking about with Letitia James, and he says,
not trying to make a political point here. I spent
years as a mortgage banker at Quicken Loans now Rocket Mortgage,
the number one mortgage lender in the country before I
ever went to law school.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Here's the deal.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
How you classify a property as a primary, secondary, or
investment home changes everything about the loan, the down payment,
the interest rate, the underwriting, all of it. Primary or
secondary homes can get by with as little, he says,
as three to ten percent down. Investment properties usually require
twenty five percent or more. So if you're a brand
(01:37):
new real estate investor with limited cash, there's a big
incentive to call something a quote second home instead of
an investment property. But that's why lenders make you sign
a second home writer a separate document where you specifically
promise you'll use it as a second residence, not rent
it out. You also assert, like not times in the
(02:01):
application process, it will be owner occupied. Could this kind
of thing ever be an honest mistake? I doubt it.
The facts, at least as reported, look pretty bad. You
buy a house, say it's a second home, immediately rent
it out till you're insure its owner occupied, and then
report rental income on your taxes. That's not a misunderstanding.
(02:24):
That's a pattern, and it just continues again. The wild
part is she's a lawyer, she's the Attorney General of
New York. She's prosecuted the former president for similar financial representations.
You'd think someone with that background would fully understand what
those documents say and what it means to misstate intent
(02:46):
on a loan. It's going to be a tough case
for her to defend unless she's able to present additional
information in the meantime, lots of financial and life lessons
in the story for all of us. I just thought
that was interesting. That's someone who deals all the time,
as I'm sure many of you out there have in
the mortgage industry. Again reiterating what we have said, which
(03:07):
is this is not something that would have been likely
to have occurred as an error, particularly not someone who
is the chief law enforcement officer of the State of
New York. Okay, so that a little bit of a
bow on that discussion for all of you. Now, last
night in Virginia, Buck, I was watching this early this
morning when I got up. I know you were watching.
(03:29):
I saw some of it last night. I want to
play a couple of these cuts, and some of them
are a bit long, but I think it's important for
you guys to hear exactly how long these answers are
because it speaks to an unwillingness to answer direct questions.
And I actually give credit to the debate moderators who
(03:52):
were asking questions and then doing something crazy when they're
not answered, following up, Hey, this is kind of a
yes or no question. So let's play this when it's
a bit long. This is Abigail Spanberger Democrats. Why don't
we play it and we can stop it? Do they
do the whole thing or they have it in multiple clips,
because we could probably stop start this one, because it's
really you want to hear the whole thing. Yeah, we'll
(04:13):
stop start it, but this is the long one. This
is buck This is a couple of minutes here. This
is her repeatedly refusing to say if men should be
allowed to compete in girls sports and use girls' locker rooms.
This is that first one cut seven.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Focusing on a K through twelve school system. Should transgender
girls who are biological males be allowed to use girls'
bathrooms and play on girls' sports teams?
Speaker 4 (04:41):
You have sixty seconds.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
I'm a mother of three daughters in Virginia public schools,
and nothing is more important to me than their safety
and their experience in schools. I'm also a former federal agent,
and I work to investigate crimes against children, and so nothing.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Is more important to me than the safety.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
Of all of our children, and that work, in part,
has earned me the endorsement of Virginia's police Benevolent Associations.
Talking issues related to what's happening in our schools in
each individual community, I think it's important that we have
parents and teachers and administrators making decisions about their individual schools,
(05:27):
not politicians.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
And if we are talking about the safety of our.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Children, I would ask why my opinion continues to support
efforts to defund public safety, an effort carried on continually
by this mispanstration.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Once again, the question was should transgender girls who are
biological males be allowed to use girls' bathrooms and play
on girls sports teams? In K through twelve? You have
fifteen seconds to clarify.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
In cases across Virginia. I think it's incumbent upon parents
and educators and administrators in each local community to make
decisions locally.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
That's what this is about.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
There should never be indess.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
We finally have her saying that, but you voted for that.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Now this is Miss Spanberger's time.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Have a follow up question for Miss Spanberger, would you
rescind the young and administration policy requiring boys and girls
to use bathrooms aligning with their biological sex?
Speaker 4 (06:32):
You have thirty seconds.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
My priority would be to ensure that local communities, importantly
parents and teachers, that's educators, are able to work together
to meet the unique needs of each school in each community.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Girls.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
And that and I say that as a mother of
three daughters in Virginia public schools exactly, and as someone
who used to investigate crimes against children. The way that
we keep our children's is by ensuring they are safe
in schools, which includes funding law enforcement and public safety.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
But Miss span Burger, the question was should the young
Would you rescind the youngin administration policy requiring boys and
girls to use bathrooms aligning with their biological sex? You
have fifteen seconds to clarify that question.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Yes, and my answer is that in each local community,
decisions should be made between parents and educators and teachers
in each community. It shouldn't be dictated viral chlititicians.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Please don't interrupt you. We're coming to you next.
Speaker 7 (07:38):
Okay, okay, Buck, This is devastating, Yeah, because this is
where the Democrat party is right now. Span Burger is
pretending to be something she's not, or rather, she's making
sure that no one knows what she is. That's the
whole game here. She is a Democrat. Democrats have to
say trans dudes have to be able to go in
(08:01):
to your daughter, your wife, et cetera's locker room and
bathroom under law. Okay, it's a civil rights issue. That
is what Democrats as a party mandate. This is orthodoxy.
You're not allowed to deviate from this. But she is
playing this game of well, it's about the communities, and
there should be conversations, and next she's gonna say, I'm a.
Speaker 8 (08:23):
Mother of three and I like girls that are in
school public schools.
Speaker 7 (08:27):
It's it's sound the most circular nonsense evasion imaginable on
a debate stage. If you're listening to us in Virginia
and you have not gotten out and voted for Winsome Seers,
I don't know, frankly, what you're doing in your And
I appreciate the fact that all of you are listening
(08:49):
to us in Virginia. If you are not out voting
for Winsome Seers right now, I would submit to you
that you need a check because I think people may
have gotten a little bit a little bit happy with
the Trump win. They got Glenn Youngkin there, let me
play this two buck because this Jay Jones character who's
running And we're going to talk with the current Attorney
(09:09):
General of Virginia, Jason Miarrez about this in just a
moment at the bottom of the hour. But this was
another devastating moment from this debate. And again, listen to
the questioners. I give them credit for going back and saying, hey,
you know, the question is really just a yes or no.
It's not a complicated question. They also ask why she
hasn't asked Jay Jones to drop out of the race
(09:31):
based on frankly awful text messages wishing death.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
On the children of his political opponents. Here's cut nine.
Speaker 9 (09:39):
I didn't hear an answer there on the endorsement issue,
so I want to just make sure will you continue
to endorse Jay Jones to be the next Attorney General
of Virginia? And were you aware of these text messages
before they released?
Speaker 4 (09:52):
You have thirty seconds.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
In fact, it appears that it was those who released
the text messages and held them for years, so the
public was unaware who had knowledge of these text messages.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
For many of us, you.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Text messages the day that they came out, and I
denounced them as soon as I learned of.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Importantly, at this.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Point, as we move forward, the voters now have this information,
information that was withheld for them.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
You're running, presumably for.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
Affairs reasons, but the voters now have the information and
it is up to voters to make an individual choice
based on this information.
Speaker 9 (10:34):
Miss Memory, I understand what you're saying about the voters,
But for you yourself, do you still continue to endorse.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Jay Jones fifteen seconds? Yes or no? We are all
running our individual races.
Speaker 10 (10:45):
I believe my opponent has said that about her lieutenant
governor nominee affairs and up theirs every person to make
their own decision. I am running my race to serve
Virginia and that is what I intend to do.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Thank you you.
Speaker 7 (11:00):
Oh sorry, she's an etch a sketch politician. Well, whatever
you want it to be. What I'll say whatever I
need to say in the moment so that people don't
know what I actually believe. Here's what everybody should know.
She is a Democrat. She will do the will of
the Democrat Party when she is in power in that state.
That is very obvious. Everything in the meantime is an
(11:20):
evasion so that people who don't pay much attention, who
rely on TV commercials for who they're going to vote for.
And you know, the whole game here Clay is to
fool voters enough voters that once she's in power, Oh,
she knows the answers, or she has answers to all
these questions, She's just not going to answer them with
(11:40):
anyone paying attention until it's too late. Once the voters
have had their say and she has pulled off the swindle,
then you'll see that she is all about the LGBTQ
IA plus plus plus agenda and trans writes and trannies
in the bathroom with your wives and your daughters and
everything else.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
The whole thing.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
It's not dissimilar to the way they ran Biden. Biden
got into office as a moderate, and then he got
there and you saw that he actually was going to
govern as a far left wing, insane person. Virginia. That's
what your decision is basically about, are you supporting sanity
or not. We've got another good cut. Maybe we'll play
it when we come back, because when some seers I
(12:21):
thought really kind of delivered a frankly knockout punch if
people were actually paying attention to this debate.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
And we haven't played that yet, but let's hold that one.
I like that. Yeah, I'll see that one up in
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Speaker 2 (14:02):
All right, welcome back in to Playing Buck.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
We were talking about that Virginia governor's race debate and
how Spanberger was just running in circles.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Really one of the.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
Most absurd debate performances for somebody who does not have,
you know, late stage elderly person cognitive dementia. One of
the most absurd performances I've ever seen. And it's, like
I said, all along, that's why, whatever her name is,
whatever her politics are, she's just supposed to be a
(14:36):
mediocre cipher. You know, somebody you can put whatever you want. Oh,
she stand for this, I don't know. She seems nice,
she's got kids or something.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Who cares.
Speaker 7 (14:46):
She is trying to fool people. She's being dishonest about
who she is and win some sears was not having
it on that debate stage. The lieutenant governor, the current
lieutenant governor. Here she is pointing out what needed to
be pointed out. Play ten.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
It is extraordinarily important that we have transparency and that
there is a clear market in order to be enforced,
because it is in the absence of an open.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
And clear and.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
Extraordinarily transparent market that law enforcement is not able.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
What you're saying, miss Spenburg, your time is up.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yeah, I mean you heard that.
Speaker 7 (15:26):
You don't even know what you're saying, which is absolutely correct, Clay.
She is just babbling. It's just words coming out of
span Berger's mouth that have no actual meaning beyond trying
to run the clock out so people can't figure out
she's a Democrat like all the rest.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah, and there's another good one here that I thought
was also you don't even know what you're saying. This
is also cut nine. We have time for this one too.
Listen to this one, Buck, because I thought this was win.
Some sears at her best last night in the debate, listen, well,
I think.
Speaker 11 (15:56):
As everybody knows, I'm a Christian, I'm a Christian before
I'm a Republican, and I'm required to forgive people. And
it's hard sometimes when somebody has abused you, etc. But
something you must do because not to forgive is almost like,
as someone said, you drink poison thinking that it's going
to affect the other person. And I want to live
a decent life. And I don't want to not have
(16:19):
peace in my life. And so I, as I've said before,
I would not say that. So that's why I'm wondering
why my opponent won't say, beyond its abhorrent and disgusting,
why she won't say it is not okay and that
(16:39):
he must leave the race. Because Jay Jones advocated the murder, Abigail,
the murder of a man, a former speaker, as well
as his children who were two years, two and five
years old.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
You have little girls. Would it take him pulling the trigger?
Speaker 12 (16:56):
Is that?
Speaker 4 (16:56):
What would do it? And then you would say he
needs to.
Speaker 6 (16:59):
Get out of the race, Abigail, you have nothing to say, Abigail.
What if he said it about your two children, your
three children.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Is that when you would say he.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
Should get out of the race, Abigail, you're running to
the governor.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I thought that was really good.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
If you watch that video, Abigail Spanberger just looks like
a sociopath, staring straight ahead, refusing to look at wins Sears.
If you're gonna say all the time, I've got three daughters,
I've got three daughters there in public school, like she said,
as if she were a robot, why not have to
address the fact that the attorney general nominee for Democrats
(17:42):
wanted the kids of the Virginia Speaker of the House
to die to teach a lesson to the mom and
dad because he said they were raising fascists. We'll ask
this question for Jason Miar's next.
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Speaker 1 (18:56):
Welcome back in McLay Travis buck Sexton Show, appreciate.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
All of you.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
We are joined now by the current Attorney General of Virginia,
Jason Miarez, who is right now in the midst of
a very close race against Jay Jones, who is the
Democrat nominee. We were just playing a lot of cuts
from the governor's debate last night, Jason, which I'm assuming
(19:23):
that you watched in full and for people out there
who have not heard, I jotted down a lot of
the awful things that Jay Jones said and will run
through them. But can you believe that he's still running
for the office of Attorney general based on the stories
that are out there right now about calling for someone's
kids who was the Virginia Speaker of the House to die,
(19:44):
to send them a message saying they're being raised as fascits.
I mean, it's truly vile and reprehensible, and I was
kind of stunned that anybody would say it, much less
somebody who's running to be the chief law enforcement officer
of a state.
Speaker 12 (20:00):
Yeah. I mean, I gotta admit, as attorney general or
your job, your number one job is to stop violence.
I can't imagine someone running for this position as advocated
for it. And you know, part of why this has
been so surreal for me is I previously part of
being Attorney general, I served in the General Assembly in
Virginia with Jay and Todd Todd. Gilbert Todd is a
(20:23):
personal friend of mine. In fact, during session, me, him
and another legislators will get an airbnb. He was my
roommate during session. He's a personal friend. I know Jennifer,
so does Jay Jones. I mean, Jennifer Gilbert would come
to the Assembly, Jennifer Gilbert would bring her children. You
would see them running down the hall or on the
house floor. So this wasn't some hypothetical. Part of what
(20:47):
makes this so startling to me was the fact that
at the ages of Todd's children when he sent these
text messages was they were two and five years old.
And I gotta tell you when this first broke, you know,
my team was all like, you've got to get a
statement out, and I said, just stop. I need some
time to process this because just imagine this politics aside.
(21:09):
Imagine somebody's saying this about a friend of yours and
their family. Imagine how you would feel. And so the
idea that he would say this about someone he knows,
someone he's worked with, children that he has met, I
think has just made this at a different level that
has just astonished me. And you know that it seems
(21:29):
like you are seeing a few Democrats outside of Virginia
that clearly indicated they can't vote for him. But as
far as right now, the political class in Virginia right
now is saying these are horrible texts he needs to
be held accountable, but they don't say what accountability looks like.
I think Virginia voters are going to hold him accountable
(21:50):
for sure.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
Well, mister me I turned in, gentlemen, we are as
I got to ask the moment where on the debate stage,
and we played it for this audience just a few
minutes ago, where the Lieutenant governor asked Abigail Spanberger if
she still endorses Jay Jones for attorney general. How can
(22:14):
you have somebody who is hoping to be governor who
can't even say that the attorney general from her party
would be attorney general from her party has her full endorsement.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
It just seems like this is a should be a
non starter.
Speaker 12 (22:28):
Well, it's it's clear that's where we are now. And
this remind people that Abigail Spamburger had asked for Ralph
Northam's resignation as governor of the previous governor over a
thirty year old yearbook photo. But to your point, I mean,
I think this should be a question asked of every
elected Democrat or even elected official needis Son in Island, Virginia.
(22:53):
If someone was applying for a job to work in
your office, and it came out during their betting that
they had sent these that expressed the sentiments and had
actually wished or as they hoped, a two to five
year old child would die in their mother's arm. Would
you still hire them? Well, then the extra question of
answers knows then why would you vote to elevate this
person to be literally the top prosecutor in the entire
(23:16):
Commonwealth of Virginia. And it just shows and just for
your listeners realized the background what set Jay Jones on
this path is he was very upset that Todd Gilbert
had said nice words in memory of a moderate Democrat
that served in the Assembly that had passed away. He
was angry that Todd was saying something nice about a
(23:38):
member of his own party. And his response was that
he wanted to be able to pit on the graves
of his political opponents. I mean, think about that where
you're coming from. And for your listeners, you know, I
keep a sign in my office in Richmond. It's one
of my favorite quotes from Thomas Jefferson, and it is this,
I have never found the difference of opinion in politics, philosophy,
(24:02):
or religion to be cause to withdrawal from a friend.
It's just a reminder for me and my job that
I may disagree with you politically, I'm not going to
draw my friendship for you. I had met with victims.
I had never once asked the victim of a crime
whether they ever voted for me in what part of
the are I don't care. My job is to be
the people's protector of everyone. That's such a different mindset
(24:23):
of someone who says I would like to see a
you know, my political opponents have two built bullets in
their head. And when he's texted by his colleague Jay,
you're literally saying you're hoping that Jennifer Gilbert's children die
in her arms. Your responses, yes, because it is only
through change that pain, through pain, the change occurs. Well,
(24:44):
that is a that is an incredibly dark world view
to think that you have to inflict pain on individuals
to somehow achieve a political objective. That is a that
you know, we have some chapters in our history, obviously
as our country, but we set them a long time ago.
We don't. We don't settle our differences with bullets. We
settle at the ballot box. And that's the sign of
(25:07):
a vibrant democracy, and so it's a I do think
this election now in Virginian is not about right versus left.
It's about right versus wrong. It's about a basic standard
of decency, and candidly, it's just nationwide, what is the
signal that can you say anything you want about your opposition,
(25:29):
even saying you helpe violence against their family, and they're
not be a political price? And I think I trust
Virginians are going to get it right, but I think
the stake's here for the larger nation is a sobering one.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Let me hit you with some of those quotes you
mentioned them a lit a little bit. I am reading
from the New York Times, which actually managed to cover
it today. At one point, Jay Jones, as you said,
remarked that he would quote piss on the graves of
Republican delegates when they died. He went on to say
that if he had two bullets in a gun and
his choice was to shoot Adolph Hitler, the former Cambodian dictator,
(26:06):
Polepot or Virginia House speaker Todd Gilbert, a Republican, that
he would shoot mister Gilbert twice. And he said, spoiler
put Gilbert and the crew with the two worst people
you know, and he receives both bullets every time. He
also said that he hoped that Jennifer Gilbert's children would die,
(26:30):
and he didn't back down. He said, yes, I've told
you this before. Only when people feel pain personally do
they move on policies. He then said, I mean, do
I think Todd who was the Speaker of the House,
and Jennifer his wife, are evil and that they're breeding
little fascist Yes, I mean this is vile, vile things
(26:54):
that Jay Jones is saying.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
So are you surprised?
Speaker 1 (26:57):
You mentioned that there are some Democrats out of the
state that are saying even Kentucky Governor Andy Basheer said, yeah,
I would have trouble voting for Jay Jones. He's the
Democrat governor of Kentucky. Are you surprised that Virginians in
the Democrat Party so far are staying rock ribbed behind
(27:17):
Jay Jones given what he did?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Would we know that? He said?
Speaker 12 (27:21):
Yeah, I mean I am surprised. I'm Kim William very surprised,
But I do think that there has been a disconnect
between the political leadership and where everyday Virginians are. Obviously
it's something I am hearing about constantly when I am
out talking to thedividuals. But think about this as well.
(27:43):
What this also tells me that about my opponent is
that he's never actually met with real mothers that have
actually lost their children's to violence. Have I have met
the moms of murdered victims, and I could tell you
that right now, there is no cry like the car
I have a mother that has lost her child. There's
nothing like it. It is. It is soul theory. And
(28:05):
once you've actually experienced that, you you can't even imagine
that on your on anybody, you know, even if they're
your political enemy. But it just shows that he is
as he's not prepared, he's obviously reckless with his his judgment,
and he has a worldview that is is completely incompatible
(28:26):
with this office. Period. And don't forget it also has
come out that he apparently told another colleague that as
far as you know, police violence, that he said, if
you could get rid of qualified immunity to sue police personally,
and maybe if some cops died, and actually they would
change their behavior. And so you've seen the Fraternal Order
(28:48):
Police and a host of other law enforcement organizations also
have come out. You have a group of sheriffs and
commonwealth attorneys in Virginia say that he should not stay
in the race. So you seeing law enforcement has come
out quite forcibly saying we don't want him to be
the top prosecutor in the States period. And so you
(29:09):
have seen I think of, not surprisingly, an enormous amount
of courage from our law enforcement heroes that have come
out quite fortunately, a lot of which are apolitical. The
Virginia State Police Association, which normally rarely ever deals into
anything slightly political, has come out quite Forcully about these remarks.
Because the hardest thing for me is attending the end
(29:29):
of watch funerals for officers that have died in the
line of duty. That is by far the most difficult
moment that you ever have as a public official. You
realize it's the hardest job in America, and you just
sit back and you think, I can't imagine, not that
I think we'd ever attend, but somebody who actually has wished,
because when you talk to these family members and then
(29:50):
they talk about the job and the burden of the
badge and what it means to carry the shield every day,
and earlier this year, I attended the end of Watch
with the officer Camp Gerban Austar, Christopher Reef. They died
February twenty second of this year, two officers in Virginia
Beach gunned down in the line of duty. You know,
(30:10):
you talk to those family, you know, Cameron left behind,
the wife who had just found out she was pregnant
with a baby girl. I mean, you you get those stories.
You meet these law enforcement guardians and you realize what
Jay Jones has said, this world view of violence against
individuals to advance agendas, so outside of the normal frameworks,
(30:30):
I think he's disqualified himself from the job.
Speaker 7 (30:33):
Turney, gentleman, areas, could you just tell everybody, with the
couple of minutes we have left, what have you done
as attorney general that has had real impact that you're
proud of, that has shown the kind of law enforcement
focus in there. I love Virginia. It's the state that
it's like a top five in terms of time spent
state for me. I would say, so, I'm I have
family in Charlottesville. I'm very very fond of Virginia. Tell
(30:55):
everybody what you've been doing in your state.
Speaker 12 (30:57):
Yeah, well, listen, I came in the office. The Virginia
had a murder rated, a twenty year high, violent crime rate,
a thirty year high, the high levels of addiction desk
ever recorded. And I had this novel Idea Clays. I said,
I I'm going to work with law enforcement, not work
against them. We also saw that we had unacceptable violence.
Our murder rate was driven by violence in certain areas
(31:18):
of the state, certain of our localities. We saw the
five percent of felons were committing over fifty percent of
the violent felonies. So we went after these repea violent offenders.
By the way, a lot of which are in the
narcotics trade. City of Roanoke alone, for example, zero point
one two percent of the population of the City of Ronoke.
That's one fifth of one percent. We're committing over thirty
(31:39):
percent of the homicide. So we went after the small
subset of repeat violent offenders. We investigated them, we indicted,
we in prosecuted them, and the murder rates dropped dramatically.
City of Ronoke sixty two percent dropping our murder rate.
We've had a double digit cross dropping our violent frank
crime rate our sees fire cities is huge reduction. More
people are alive today, we prosecute and have got enough
(32:00):
bettanyl off the streets that would have killed seven million Virginians.
Record settlements against some of the opioid manufacturers that has
gone to treatment. So Virginia is not top ten, we're
not top five. We are now the number one state
in the entire country. And they were all dropping of
addiction death. So from this record high addiction death to
this number one in the country and the drop, huge
(32:21):
dropping reduction or a violent crime. I say, as Attorney General
and the people's protector, I protect all Virginians, whether they're Republican,
Democrat or Independence. We're proud of that record. I've said,
Virginian safety has been my mission from day one. That's
what I'm asking Virginians to rehire me to continue to
do that good work. And definitely don't hire somebody to
be the top prosecutor who a has never been a prosecutor,
(32:43):
as being his wife, B has a legislative voting record
of voting against police and against victims, and C literally
is advocated for violence against his political opponents and said
he hopes to see their children die. He's simply unfit
and disqualified to this office.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
And gentlemen.
Speaker 7 (33:00):
Arez appreciate what you've done, sir, and we know our
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Speaker 1 (36:47):
A great question, like Bigfoot, I guess when we come back,
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We are
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the bottom of the hour, Jason Miarez, who is the
Attorney General of the state of Virginia running for reelection
in about three weeks against a guy who frankly has
done some said some pretty awful things. We will get
(00:21):
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Speaker 2 (00:33):
We will discuss that with him.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
But I was reading this Buck, and I want to
make sure that I get this, and I probably am
mispronouncing this guy's name, but his name is Eric Pacifici,
and again I apologize if I mispronounce that he is
a attorney. And he has a good thread that I
was reading during the most recent commercial break, and I
just want to hit this because it goes directly to
(00:57):
what we were talking about with Letitia James, and he says,
not trying to make a political point here. I spent
years as a mortgage banker at Quicken Loans now Rocket Mortgage,
the number one mortgage lender in the country before I
ever went to law school.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Here's the deal.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
How you classify a property as a primary, secondary, or
investment home changes everything about the loan, the down payment,
the interest rate, the underwriting, all of it. Primary or
secondary homes can get by with as little, he says,
as three to ten percent down. Investment properties usually require
twenty five percent or more. So if you're a brand
(01:37):
new real estate investor with limited cash, there's a big
incentive to call something a quote second home instead of
an investment property. But that's why lenders make you sign
a second home writer a separate document where you specifically
promise you'll use it as a second residence, not rent
it out. You also assert, like not times in the
(02:01):
application process, it will be owner occupied. Could this kind
of thing ever be an honest mistake? I doubt it.
The facts, at least as reported, look pretty bad. You
buy a house, say it's a second home, immediately rent
it out till you're insure its owner occupied, and then
report rental income on your taxes. That's not a misunderstanding.
(02:24):
That's a pattern, and it just continues again. The wild
part is she's a lawyer, she's the Attorney General of
New York. She's prosecuted the former president for similar financial representations.
You'd think someone with that background would fully understand what
those documents say and what it means to misstate intent
(02:46):
on a loan. It's going to be a tough case
for her to defend unless she's able to present additional
information in the meantime, lots of financial and life lessons
in the story for all of us. I just thought
that was interesting. That's someone who deals all the time,
as I'm sure many of you out there have in
the mortgage industry. Again reiterating what we have said, which
(03:07):
is this is not something that would have been likely
to have occurred as an error, particularly not someone who
is the chief law enforcement officer of the State of
New York. Okay, so that a little bit of a
bow on that discussion for all of you. Now, last
night in Virginia, Buck, I was watching this early this
morning when I got up. I know you were watching.
(03:29):
I saw some of it last night. I want to
play a couple of these cuts, and some of them
are a bit long, but I think it's important for
you guys to hear exactly how long these answers are
because it speaks to an unwillingness to answer direct questions.
And I actually give credit to the debate moderators who
(03:52):
were asking questions and then doing something crazy when they're
not answered, following up, Hey, this is kind of a
yes or no question. So let's play this when it's
a bit long. This is Abigail Spanberger Democrats. Why don't
we play it and we can stop it? Do they
do the whole thing or they have it in multiple clips,
because we could probably stop start this one, because it's
really you want to hear the whole thing. Yeah, we'll
(04:13):
stop start it, but this is the long one. This
is buck This is a couple of minutes here. This
is her repeatedly refusing to say if men should be
allowed to compete in girls sports and use girls' locker rooms.
This is that first one cut seven.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Focusing on a K through twelve school system. Should transgender
girls who are biological males be allowed to use girls'
bathrooms and play on girls' sports teams?
Speaker 4 (04:41):
You have sixty seconds.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
I'm a mother of three daughters in Virginia public schools,
and nothing is more important to me than their safety
and their experience in schools. I'm also a former federal agent,
and I work to investigate crimes against children, and so nothing.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Is more important to me than the safety.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
Of all of our children, and that work, in part,
has earned me the endorsement of Virginia's police Benevolent Associations.
Talking issues related to what's happening in our schools in
each individual community, I think it's important that we have
parents and teachers and administrators making decisions about their individual schools,
(05:27):
not politicians.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
And if we are talking about the safety of our.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Children, I would ask why my opinion continues to support
efforts to defund public safety, an effort carried on continually
by this mispanstration.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Once again, the question was should transgender girls who are
biological males be allowed to use girls' bathrooms and play
on girls sports teams? In K through twelve? You have
fifteen seconds to clarify.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
In cases across Virginia. I think it's incumbent upon parents
and educators and administrators in each local community to make
decisions locally.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
That's what this is about.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
There should never be indess.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
We finally have her saying that, but you voted for that.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Now this is Miss Spanberger's time.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Have a follow up question for Miss Spanberger, would you
rescind the young and administration policy requiring boys and girls
to use bathrooms aligning with their biological sex?
Speaker 4 (06:32):
You have thirty seconds.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
My priority would be to ensure that local communities, importantly
parents and teachers, that's educators, are able to work together
to meet the unique needs of each school in each community.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Girls.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
And that and I say that as a mother of
three daughters in Virginia public schools exactly, and as someone
who used to investigate crimes against children. The way that
we keep our children's is by ensuring they are safe
in schools, which includes funding law enforcement and public safety.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
But Miss span Burger, the question was should the young
Would you rescind the youngin administration policy requiring boys and
girls to use bathrooms aligning with their biological sex? You
have fifteen seconds to clarify that question.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Yes, and my answer is that in each local community,
decisions should be made between parents and educators and teachers
in each community. It shouldn't be dictated viral chlititicians.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Please don't interrupt you. We're coming to you next.
Speaker 7 (07:38):
Okay, okay, Buck, This is devastating, Yeah, because this is
where the Democrat party is right now. Span Burger is
pretending to be something she's not, or rather, she's making
sure that no one knows what she is. That's the
whole game here. She is a Democrat. Democrats have to
say trans dudes have to be able to go in
(08:01):
to your daughter, your wife, et cetera's locker room and
bathroom under law. Okay, it's a civil rights issue. That
is what Democrats as a party mandate. This is orthodoxy.
You're not allowed to deviate from this. But she is
playing this game of well, it's about the communities, and
there should be conversations, and next she's gonna say, I'm a.
Speaker 8 (08:23):
Mother of three and I like girls that are in
school public schools.
Speaker 7 (08:27):
It's it's sound the most circular nonsense evasion imaginable on
a debate stage. If you're listening to us in Virginia
and you have not gotten out and voted for Winsome Seers,
I don't know, frankly, what you're doing in your And
I appreciate the fact that all of you are listening
(08:49):
to us in Virginia. If you are not out voting
for Winsome Seers right now, I would submit to you
that you need a check because I think people may
have gotten a little bit a little bit happy with
the Trump win. They got Glenn Youngkin there, let me
play this two buck because this Jay Jones character who's
running And we're going to talk with the current Attorney
(09:09):
General of Virginia, Jason Miarrez about this in just a
moment at the bottom of the hour. But this was
another devastating moment from this debate. And again, listen to
the questioners. I give them credit for going back and saying, hey,
you know, the question is really just a yes or no.
It's not a complicated question. They also ask why she
hasn't asked Jay Jones to drop out of the race
(09:31):
based on frankly awful text messages wishing death.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
On the children of his political opponents. Here's cut nine.
Speaker 9 (09:39):
I didn't hear an answer there on the endorsement issue,
so I want to just make sure will you continue
to endorse Jay Jones to be the next Attorney General
of Virginia? And were you aware of these text messages
before they released?
Speaker 4 (09:52):
You have thirty seconds.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
In fact, it appears that it was those who released
the text messages and held them for years, so the
public was unaware who had knowledge of these text messages.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
For many of us, you.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Text messages the day that they came out, and I
denounced them as soon as I learned of.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
Importantly, at this.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Point, as we move forward, the voters now have this information,
information that was withheld for them.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
You're running, presumably for.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
Affairs reasons, but the voters now have the information and
it is up to voters to make an individual choice
based on this information.
Speaker 9 (10:34):
Miss Memory, I understand what you're saying about the voters,
But for you yourself, do you still continue to endorse.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Jay Jones fifteen seconds? Yes or no? We are all
running our individual races.
Speaker 10 (10:45):
I believe my opponent has said that about her lieutenant
governor nominee affairs and up theirs every person to make
their own decision. I am running my race to serve
Virginia and that is what I intend to do.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Thank you you.
Speaker 7 (11:00):
Oh sorry, she's an etch a sketch politician. Well, whatever
you want it to be. What I'll say whatever I
need to say in the moment so that people don't
know what I actually believe. Here's what everybody should know.
She is a Democrat. She will do the will of
the Democrat Party when she is in power in that state.
That is very obvious. Everything in the meantime is an
(11:20):
evasion so that people who don't pay much attention, who
rely on TV commercials for who they're going to vote for.
And you know, the whole game here Clay is to
fool voters enough voters that once she's in power, Oh,
she knows the answers, or she has answers to all
these questions, She's just not going to answer them with
(11:40):
anyone paying attention until it's too late. Once the voters
have had their say and she has pulled off the swindle,
then you'll see that she is all about the LGBTQ
IA plus plus plus agenda and trans writes and trannies
in the bathroom with your wives and your daughters and
everything else.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
The whole thing.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
It's not dissimilar to the way they ran Biden. Biden
got into office as a moderate, and then he got
there and you saw that he actually was going to
govern as a far left wing, insane person. Virginia. That's
what your decision is basically about, are you supporting sanity
or not. We've got another good cut. Maybe we'll play
it when we come back, because when some seers I
(12:21):
thought really kind of delivered a frankly knockout punch if
people were actually paying attention to this debate.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
And we haven't played that yet, but let's hold that one.
I like that. Yeah, I'll see that one up in
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All right, welcome back in to Playing Buck.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
We were talking about that Virginia governor's race debate and
how Spanberger was just running in circles.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Really one of the.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
Most absurd debate performances for somebody who does not have,
you know, late stage elderly person cognitive dementia. One of
the most absurd performances I've ever seen. And it's, like
I said, all along, that's why, whatever her name is,
whatever her politics are, she's just supposed to be a
(14:36):
mediocre cipher. You know, somebody you can put whatever you want. Oh,
she stand for this, I don't know. She seems nice,
she's got kids or something.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Who cares.
Speaker 7 (14:46):
She is trying to fool people. She's being dishonest about
who she is and win some sears was not having
it on that debate stage. The lieutenant governor, the current
lieutenant governor. Here she is pointing out what needed to
be pointed out. Play ten.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
It is extraordinarily important that we have transparency and that
there is a clear market in order to be enforced,
because it is in the absence of an open.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
And clear and.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
Extraordinarily transparent market that law enforcement is not able.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
What you're saying, miss Spenburg, your time is up.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yeah, I mean you heard that.
Speaker 7 (15:26):
You don't even know what you're saying, which is absolutely correct, Clay.
She is just babbling. It's just words coming out of
span Berger's mouth that have no actual meaning beyond trying
to run the clock out so people can't figure out
she's a Democrat like all the rest.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah, and there's another good one here that I thought
was also you don't even know what you're saying. This
is also cut nine. We have time for this one too.
Listen to this one, Buck, because I thought this was win.
Some sears at her best last night in the debate, listen, well,
I think.
Speaker 11 (15:56):
As everybody knows, I'm a Christian, I'm a Christian before
I'm a Republican, and I'm required to forgive people. And
it's hard sometimes when somebody has abused you, etc. But
something you must do because not to forgive is almost like,
as someone said, you drink poison thinking that it's going
to affect the other person. And I want to live
a decent life. And I don't want to not have
(16:19):
peace in my life. And so I, as I've said before,
I would not say that. So that's why I'm wondering
why my opponent won't say, beyond its abhorrent and disgusting,
why she won't say it is not okay and that
(16:39):
he must leave the race. Because Jay Jones advocated the murder, Abigail,
the murder of a man, a former speaker, as well
as his children who were two years, two and five
years old.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
You have little girls. Would it take him pulling the trigger?
Speaker 12 (16:56):
Is that?
Speaker 4 (16:56):
What would do it? And then you would say he
needs to.
Speaker 6 (16:59):
Get out of the race, Abigail, you have nothing to say, Abigail.
What if he said it about your two children, your
three children.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Is that when you would say he.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
Should get out of the race, Abigail, you're running to
the governor.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I thought that was really good.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
If you watch that video, Abigail Spanberger just looks like
a sociopath, staring straight ahead, refusing to look at wins Sears.
If you're gonna say all the time, I've got three daughters,
I've got three daughters there in public school, like she said,
as if she were a robot, why not have to
address the fact that the attorney general nominee for Democrats
(17:42):
wanted the kids of the Virginia Speaker of the House
to die to teach a lesson to the mom and
dad because he said they were raising fascists. We'll ask
this question for Jason Miar's next.
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Speaker 1 (18:56):
Welcome back in McLay Travis buck Sexton Show, appreciate.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
All of you.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
We are joined now by the current Attorney General of Virginia,
Jason Miarez, who is right now in the midst of
a very close race against Jay Jones, who is the
Democrat nominee. We were just playing a lot of cuts
from the governor's debate last night, Jason, which I'm assuming
(19:23):
that you watched in full and for people out there
who have not heard, I jotted down a lot of
the awful things that Jay Jones said and will run
through them. But can you believe that he's still running
for the office of Attorney general based on the stories
that are out there right now about calling for someone's
kids who was the Virginia Speaker of the House to die,
(19:44):
to send them a message saying they're being raised as fascits.
I mean, it's truly vile and reprehensible, and I was
kind of stunned that anybody would say it, much less
somebody who's running to be the chief law enforcement officer
of a state.
Speaker 12 (20:00):
Yeah. I mean, I gotta admit, as attorney general or
your job, your number one job is to stop violence.
I can't imagine someone running for this position as advocated
for it. And you know, part of why this has
been so surreal for me is I previously part of
being Attorney general, I served in the General Assembly in
Virginia with Jay and Todd Todd. Gilbert Todd is a
(20:23):
personal friend of mine. In fact, during session, me, him
and another legislators will get an airbnb. He was my
roommate during session. He's a personal friend. I know Jennifer,
so does Jay Jones. I mean, Jennifer Gilbert would come
to the Assembly, Jennifer Gilbert would bring her children. You
would see them running down the hall or on the
house floor. So this wasn't some hypothetical. Part of what
(20:47):
makes this so startling to me was the fact that
at the ages of Todd's children when he sent these
text messages was they were two and five years old.
And I gotta tell you when this first broke, you know,
my team was all like, you've got to get a
statement out, and I said, just stop. I need some
time to process this because just imagine this politics aside.
(21:09):
Imagine somebody's saying this about a friend of yours and
their family. Imagine how you would feel. And so the
idea that he would say this about someone he knows,
someone he's worked with, children that he has met, I
think has just made this at a different level that
has just astonished me. And you know that it seems
(21:29):
like you are seeing a few Democrats outside of Virginia
that clearly indicated they can't vote for him. But as
far as right now, the political class in Virginia right
now is saying these are horrible texts he needs to
be held accountable, but they don't say what accountability looks like.
I think Virginia voters are going to hold him accountable
(21:50):
for sure.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
Well, mister me I turned in, gentlemen, we are as
I got to ask the moment where on the debate stage,
and we played it for this audience just a few
minutes ago, where the Lieutenant governor asked Abigail Spanberger if
she still endorses Jay Jones for attorney general. How can
(22:14):
you have somebody who is hoping to be governor who
can't even say that the attorney general from her party
would be attorney general from her party has her full endorsement.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
It just seems like this is a should be a
non starter.
Speaker 12 (22:28):
Well, it's it's clear that's where we are now. And
this remind people that Abigail Spamburger had asked for Ralph
Northam's resignation as governor of the previous governor over a
thirty year old yearbook photo. But to your point, I mean,
I think this should be a question asked of every
elected Democrat or even elected official needis Son in Island, Virginia.
(22:53):
If someone was applying for a job to work in
your office, and it came out during their betting that
they had sent these that expressed the sentiments and had
actually wished or as they hoped, a two to five
year old child would die in their mother's arm. Would
you still hire them? Well, then the extra question of
answers knows then why would you vote to elevate this
person to be literally the top prosecutor in the entire
(23:16):
Commonwealth of Virginia. And it just shows and just for
your listeners realized the background what set Jay Jones on
this path is he was very upset that Todd Gilbert
had said nice words in memory of a moderate Democrat
that served in the Assembly that had passed away. He
was angry that Todd was saying something nice about a
(23:38):
member of his own party. And his response was that
he wanted to be able to pit on the graves
of his political opponents. I mean, think about that where
you're coming from. And for your listeners, you know, I
keep a sign in my office in Richmond. It's one
of my favorite quotes from Thomas Jefferson, and it is this,
I have never found the difference of opinion in politics, philosophy,
(24:02):
or religion to be cause to withdrawal from a friend.
It's just a reminder for me and my job that
I may disagree with you politically, I'm not going to
draw my friendship for you. I had met with victims.
I had never once asked the victim of a crime
whether they ever voted for me in what part of
the are I don't care. My job is to be
the people's protector of everyone. That's such a different mindset
(24:23):
of someone who says I would like to see a
you know, my political opponents have two built bullets in
their head. And when he's texted by his colleague Jay,
you're literally saying you're hoping that Jennifer Gilbert's children die
in her arms. Your responses, yes, because it is only
through change that pain, through pain, the change occurs. Well,
(24:44):
that is a that is an incredibly dark world view
to think that you have to inflict pain on individuals
to somehow achieve a political objective. That is a that
you know, we have some chapters in our history, obviously
as our country, but we set them a long time ago.
We don't. We don't settle our differences with bullets. We
settle at the ballot box. And that's the sign of
(25:07):
a vibrant democracy, and so it's a I do think
this election now in Virginian is not about right versus left.
It's about right versus wrong. It's about a basic standard
of decency, and candidly, it's just nationwide, what is the
signal that can you say anything you want about your opposition,
(25:29):
even saying you helpe violence against their family, and they're
not be a political price? And I think I trust
Virginians are going to get it right, but I think
the stake's here for the larger nation is a sobering one.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Let me hit you with some of those quotes you
mentioned them a lit a little bit. I am reading
from the New York Times, which actually managed to cover
it today. At one point, Jay Jones, as you said,
remarked that he would quote piss on the graves of
Republican delegates when they died. He went on to say
that if he had two bullets in a gun and
his choice was to shoot Adolph Hitler, the former Cambodian dictator,
(26:06):
Polepot or Virginia House speaker Todd Gilbert, a Republican, that
he would shoot mister Gilbert twice. And he said, spoiler
put Gilbert and the crew with the two worst people
you know, and he receives both bullets every time. He
also said that he hoped that Jennifer Gilbert's children would die,
(26:30):
and he didn't back down. He said, yes, I've told
you this before. Only when people feel pain personally do
they move on policies. He then said, I mean, do
I think Todd who was the Speaker of the House,
and Jennifer his wife, are evil and that they're breeding
little fascist Yes, I mean this is vile, vile things
(26:54):
that Jay Jones is saying.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
So are you surprised?
Speaker 1 (26:57):
You mentioned that there are some Democrats out of the
state that are saying even Kentucky Governor Andy Basheer said, yeah,
I would have trouble voting for Jay Jones. He's the
Democrat governor of Kentucky. Are you surprised that Virginians in
the Democrat Party so far are staying rock ribbed behind
(27:17):
Jay Jones given what he did?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Would we know that? He said?
Speaker 12 (27:21):
Yeah, I mean I am surprised. I'm Kim William very surprised,
But I do think that there has been a disconnect
between the political leadership and where everyday Virginians are. Obviously
it's something I am hearing about constantly when I am
out talking to thedividuals. But think about this as well.
(27:43):
What this also tells me that about my opponent is
that he's never actually met with real mothers that have
actually lost their children's to violence. Have I have met
the moms of murdered victims, and I could tell you
that right now, there is no cry like the car
I have a mother that has lost her child. There's
nothing like it. It is. It is soul theory. And
(28:05):
once you've actually experienced that, you you can't even imagine
that on your on anybody, you know, even if they're
your political enemy. But it just shows that he is
as he's not prepared, he's obviously reckless with his his judgment,
and he has a worldview that is is completely incompatible
(28:26):
with this office. Period. And don't forget it also has
come out that he apparently told another colleague that as
far as you know, police violence, that he said, if
you could get rid of qualified immunity to sue police personally,
and maybe if some cops died, and actually they would
change their behavior. And so you've seen the Fraternal Order
(28:48):
Police and a host of other law enforcement organizations also
have come out. You have a group of sheriffs and
commonwealth attorneys in Virginia say that he should not stay
in the race. So you seeing law enforcement has come
out quite forcibly saying we don't want him to be
the top prosecutor in the States period. And so you
(29:09):
have seen I think of, not surprisingly, an enormous amount
of courage from our law enforcement heroes that have come
out quite fortunately, a lot of which are apolitical. The
Virginia State Police Association, which normally rarely ever deals into
anything slightly political, has come out quite Forcully about these remarks.
Because the hardest thing for me is attending the end
(29:29):
of watch funerals for officers that have died in the
line of duty. That is by far the most difficult
moment that you ever have as a public official. You
realize it's the hardest job in America, and you just
sit back and you think, I can't imagine, not that
I think we'd ever attend, but somebody who actually has wished,
because when you talk to these family members and then
(29:50):
they talk about the job and the burden of the
badge and what it means to carry the shield every day,
and earlier this year, I attended the end of Watch
with the officer Camp Gerban Austar, Christopher Reef. They died
February twenty second of this year, two officers in Virginia
Beach gunned down in the line of duty. You know,
(30:10):
you talk to those family, you know, Cameron left behind,
the wife who had just found out she was pregnant
with a baby girl. I mean, you you get those stories.
You meet these law enforcement guardians and you realize what
Jay Jones has said, this world view of violence against
individuals to advance agendas, so outside of the normal frameworks,
(30:30):
I think he's disqualified himself from the job.
Speaker 7 (30:33):
Turney, gentleman, areas, could you just tell everybody, with the
couple of minutes we have left, what have you done
as attorney general that has had real impact that you're
proud of, that has shown the kind of law enforcement
focus in there. I love Virginia. It's the state that
it's like a top five in terms of time spent
state for me. I would say, so, I'm I have
family in Charlottesville. I'm very very fond of Virginia. Tell
(30:55):
everybody what you've been doing in your state.
Speaker 12 (30:57):
Yeah, well, listen, I came in the office. The Virginia
had a murder rated, a twenty year high, violent crime rate,
a thirty year high, the high levels of addiction desk
ever recorded. And I had this novel Idea Clays. I said,
I I'm going to work with law enforcement, not work
against them. We also saw that we had unacceptable violence.
Our murder rate was driven by violence in certain areas
(31:18):
of the state, certain of our localities. We saw the
five percent of felons were committing over fifty percent of
the violent felonies. So we went after these repea violent offenders.
By the way, a lot of which are in the
narcotics trade. City of Roanoke alone, for example, zero point
one two percent of the population of the City of Ronoke.
That's one fifth of one percent. We're committing over thirty
(31:39):
percent of the homicide. So we went after the small
subset of repeat violent offenders. We investigated them, we indicted,
we in prosecuted them, and the murder rates dropped dramatically.
City of Ronoke sixty two percent dropping our murder rate.
We've had a double digit cross dropping our violent frank
crime rate our sees fire cities is huge reduction. More
people are alive today, we prosecute and have got enough
(32:00):
bettanyl off the streets that would have killed seven million Virginians.
Record settlements against some of the opioid manufacturers that has
gone to treatment. So Virginia is not top ten, we're
not top five. We are now the number one state
in the entire country. And they were all dropping of
addiction death. So from this record high addiction death to
this number one in the country and the drop, huge
(32:21):
dropping reduction or a violent crime. I say, as Attorney General
and the people's protector, I protect all Virginians, whether they're Republican,
Democrat or Independence. We're proud of that record. I've said,
Virginian safety has been my mission from day one. That's
what I'm asking Virginians to rehire me to continue to
do that good work. And definitely don't hire somebody to
be the top prosecutor who a has never been a prosecutor,
(32:43):
as being his wife, B has a legislative voting record
of voting against police and against victims, and C literally
is advocated for violence against his political opponents and said
he hopes to see their children die. He's simply unfit
and disqualified to this office.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
And gentlemen.
Speaker 7 (33:00):
Arez appreciate what you've done, sir, and we know our
audience is going to get out there in your state,
those who are listening who live there and help you
pull this one over the finish line.
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Thanks so much.
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You, absolutely all right.
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