November 3, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show delivers a dynamic and wide-ranging discussion centered on the political landscape ahead of Election Day 2025, with a strong emphasis on the New York City mayoral race, gubernatorial contests in New Jersey and Virginia, and the broader cultural implications of rising crime and declining trust in American society.
The hour opens with analysis of Donald Trump's extended interview on CBS’s 60 Minutes, where he critiques Democratic mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani, labeling him a “communist” rather than a “socialist.” Trump’s remarks spark a broader conversation about the potential national impact of a Mamdani victory, especially as Democrats like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Mamdani become symbolic faces of the party. Clay and Buck argue that such a win could damage Democratic messaging ahead of the 2026 midterms.
The hosts explore voter turnout trends in New York City, noting historic early voting numbers and the unpredictable nature of first-time voters supporting Mamdani. They also highlight the risk of vote-splitting between Curtis Sliwa and Andrew Cuomo, which could hand Mamdani the win. Guest Mark Simone, WOR host, joins to provide insider insights into both the NYC mayoral race and the New Jersey governor’s race, where Republican Jack Ciattarelli is in a tight contest against Democrat Mikie Sherrill. Simone suggests internal Democratic panic, evidenced by Barack Obama being deployed to campaign in New Jersey, signals Ciattarelli’s momentum. In Virginia, the attorney general and lieutenant governor races are spotlighted as key battlegrounds, with the hosts urging strong Republican turnout in deep-red regions to counterbalance Northern Virginia’s Democratic stronghold.
The conversation shifts to urban safety and crime, with Trump claiming credit for improved conditions in Washington, D.C., following his deployment of the National Guard. The hosts discuss the broader implications of crime reduction in cities like Memphis and the political risks for Democrats if Trump’s policies prove effective. Viral footage of a Chicago carjacking during Halloween is used to illustrate the ongoing crisis of urban violence.
Clay and Buck then dive into cultural commentary, lamenting the erosion of trust in American society. They cite examples like Halloween candy theft and porch piracy as symptoms of declining civic values. Comparisons are made to high-trust societies like Taiwan, where public behavior reflects greater mutual respect and social responsibility.
The hour wraps with a humorous but pointed discussion about the consequences of Mamdani’s potential win, including speculation about mass migration from New York to red states like Florida, Texas, and Tennessee. Governor Greg Abbott’s tweet joking about imposing tariffs on New Yorkers moving to Texas is mentioned as emblematic of the growing divide between blue-state governance and red-state appeal.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Second hour of Clay and but kicks off. Now everybody,
our friend Mark Simon, mister New York, will be joining
us at the bottom of talk about the New York
Mayor's race, also the New Jersey Governor's race, so some
big stuff to dive into with Mark. Got great sources,
connections and insight into both of those contests. So looking
(00:22):
forward to that conversation. In the meantime, we have Donald Trump,
the one and only that down on sixty minutes with
Nora o'donnelld.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
This was all over the place doing a long form.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
It was an hour sit down, but I think they
only aired like twenty something minutes of it. We wanted
to bring you some of the more interesting moments and
dive into some of that. So here we have first Stop.
Because tomorrow is in fact collection day. Go vote, as
we always say, just make sure you go and do
it. It's a good thing to do. Some places they even
(00:56):
give you a little sticker that says I voted. You know,
it's like when you go to the pd aatrician's office.
Did you get fuzzy stickers when you go to the
pediatricians office? Grown up or something? You know, a little
like a maybe they gave you a Tutsi role, which
is a.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Song by the way.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Oh I know the song well, but I was not
expecting to see as I was sitting at the airport,
caught in travel hell as many people are. Unfortunately right
now you dancing to a song from Was that the
late nineties early two.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Thirty nineties, like ninety three, ninety four?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Oh wow?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yes, But I was in fact doing my version of
the Tutsi role here in studio. I did not expect
to see that. It was as I was texting and
keeping tabs on my flight. I look down and you're dancing.
Play's telling me that he can't unsee it. I don't
even know what that means, you know, but it feels
kind of hurtful. It feels kind of hurtful. So yes, indeed,
(01:49):
they they will give you a at some place at
least the I voted stick or go vote. That's the point.
But on mom, Donnie Trump had this to say, play one.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Zorhan mandan thirty four year old democratic socialist.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
He's the promunist, not socialist communists.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Far He's far worse than assessment.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Some people have compared him to a left wing version
of you charismatic breaking the old rules. What do you
think about that?
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Well, I think I'm a much better looking person than him.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Right, this is just Trump being Trump, plus first he
eats the slams of being a communist, then he's like
a much better, much better looking guy. Trump in his
thirties was, I will say, a very very striking fellow,
flowing hair, jaw line, very good, very good true facts there.
(02:36):
But all the Mamdani issue, Clay, this is going to
get a lot of national attention. If this guy ends
up winning, as you have been saying all along, it
may post some problems for Democrats going into the mid terms,
because every indicator is that they should at least pretend
they're not going to moderate or to be more moderate,
(02:57):
but they should at least pretend to fool voters. That's
a little harder to do if you're going to be
giving endorsements, for example, to a Mamdani like figure, and
without Grandma Pelosi to keep all the members of Congress
in line, things could get pretty crazy over there on
the Democrats side.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
This is why.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
And I may have to give my big speech in
a positive way tomorrow, and I know that there are
a lot of you listening to us in New York City.
But I do think that Democrats are incredibly nervous about
the idea of Mam Donnie being the face of the
Democrat Party because he and AOC are going to become
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the faces of the Democrat Party in the midterm for
next year. Best thing you can say about Mom Donni
if he wins is that he's going to have no
impact and he's not going to be able to put
in place the policies that he has campaigned on. And
certainly there is an incentive for all of you listening
in New York. Upstate New York, which is basically everywhere
(03:58):
outside of New York City is actually not that much
different than Alabama. And it sounds funny to people who
think of New York defined entirely as Manhattan as the
New York City area, But you get outside an hour
outside of New York City, buck, and it might as
well be Alabama or Mississippi in in much I mean
(04:21):
the number of.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Tru a little more than an hour. But yeah, yeah,
I get what you're saying. Number signs.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
When we went to Cooperstown, Uh, my boys, my kids
were blown away by the number of Trump signs that
are everywhere all over New York. My point on that is,
Kathy Hochel has an opportunity next year, I think, to
make a run as New York City's governor because I
think Mom Donnie is gonna get out a lot of
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voters outside of the.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
New York City.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
The metro area really goes for Like the radius is
at least an hour in the car in all directions,
but Cooperstown, which is a four hour drive.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yes, that's absolutely true.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
You get out into more of the rural parts of
the state, or you know, closer to rural parts of
the state, you get very read very quickly, and you
know there's a lot of people that like hunting and
they own I think that surprises a lot of people
who have spent no time because New York City overwhelms
the idea of New York State. Same thing, by the way,
(05:20):
Pennsylvania Philly and Pittsburgh to a certain extent, but you
drive around the state of Pennsylvania, I think Pennsylvania is
like the fourth most rural state in America, and it
astounds people because they think of Pennsylvania as being basically Philadelphia.
But that's my positive what I would say right now
is if you are looking for reasons of optimism Jack Chittarelli,
(05:45):
right now, if Republicans show up in big numbers tomorrow,
he's going to win. Now, they have to show up
in big numbers. But you can look at the voting
and maybe we get Ryan Gerdesky on tomorrow to talk
about this on election day because you can look at
the number of early votes they have party registration in
the New Jersey. I'm telling you that roughly party line.
(06:08):
Right now, Chittarelli is down about two hundred and fifty
thousand votes. So if Republicans in New Jersey show up
big on election day, Chittarelli can win. They are really
really nervous about that. Virginia, this AG's race is going
to be very close when some earl sears is behind,
(06:30):
but it's down ballot. Lieutenant governor looks winnable. Certainly AG
is winnable. And who knows if all of you out
there in deep red parts of Virginia, many of these
states buck as you well know, there's a huge difference.
I'm not sure any state has more variety in terms
of southwestern Virginia, which is as deep red as you
(06:54):
can possibly get, and northern Virginia, which is basically as
deep blue as.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
You can get.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yet we need everybody out there in Virginia to show
up in big numbers.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
Two.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
And if you're out there and you're saying, Okay, I'm
not really fired up about the candidates, maybe I get
out and vote, because they will certainly use any indication
of their wins to try to demean and tear down
Donald Trump one year after his election and say, look,
they're in trouble. There's no way that they can win.
(07:27):
We're getting out spending big numbers, but we have a
chance to pull a big upset.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
You mentioned DC.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I thought this was an interesting exchange in the CBS
sixty Minutes sit down. Here is now Norah Donald lives
in DC, yep, And she had to be a little
cagy here because.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
She knows if she does the DC's.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Really safe, everybody else in d C is gonna flip
out and be like, don't even try that. Okay, so
she can't do that. But remember Trump tried to start
with DC to make it safer, and now it hopes
to expand that time let out to other places. Here's
how this exchange went on safety, police security, d C
cut three.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
How big a difference is DC now compared to what
it was a year ago?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Right? I mean, you have to be honest with me.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
People walk people in the White House. They woke up
to me, young ladies. I've never seen sir thank you
very much. I know they don't even have to tell
me what they're thanking me for. But when I asked why,
he said one. You know, I said, I'd get into
Uber and I felt dangerous. Even in Uber they'd attacked
the car. Okay, it wasn't even safe. Then Sarah now
(08:34):
walked to work every day, and I walked, I'm so safe.
There's nothing going to happen, one hundred percent safe.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
And you know that too. Normal.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
I want to ask you about that. You live here,
you know that too. I want to ask you about
difference American city in Washington.
Speaker 7 (08:47):
D C.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
I think I've been working too hard. I haven't been
out and about.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
That's not a fair answer.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
You see, I get in my car and.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
I had to use that one don't work.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
It's like, you know, the different like day and night.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
It's interesting that she she Clay a few years ago
or in an earlier era of sixty minutes and Trump
it would have been No, sir, Remember who was it
who did the This is CBS, and we can't verify
things like I think it was Leslie Stall who did
that whole thing the Trump during interview. Yes, we can't
(09:24):
say things that are not true. That they spied on
me was what Trump said, and that absolutely was true.
Now she has to sort of laugh it off with
like I work too much. No, Trump's idea is working,
and she doesn't want to admit it, but she also
can't just blatantly lie about it. Yes, and I saw
they have posted it. This is an example of what
we were talking about in that sixty minutes interview. Buck
(09:46):
they aired twenty seven minutes of the Trump interview. The
actual full length interview was seventy three minutes. So the
president of the United States talk to you for seventy
three minutes.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Good for CBS.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
The change that has occurred since the last CBS interview
that I think is going to last long after Trump
is we're not going to claim that we have all
the control here and just make all the edits that
we want. We're going to show you the entirety of
this seventy three minute interview is all out there. If
you want to see Trump talk for seventy three minutes,
(10:22):
you have that ability. But think about the power that
they still have editorially to cut that to twenty seven minutes.
And I thought Trump handled that well. And to be
fair to Nora O'Donnell, as soon as she says the truth,
which is yeah, DC is way safer, people are going
to say, oh, she's in the tank for Trump, because
(10:43):
then she's endorsing his behavior in terms of calling out
the National Guard. I read a big article though in
the Wall Street Journal saying, Hey, this is absolutely fantastic
what's happening in Memphis, my home state. The number of
people out there that are really responding in a very
(11:06):
positive way is pretty pretty phenomenal. And I just think,
I mean again, for everybody out there that is living
in these cities Washington, DC, Memphis, very different cities, they're
way safer. And the concern for Democrats Buck is well,
(11:28):
if he's right, if he's what if he's right and
all of a sudden, violent crime is plummeting. Buck, I
watched did you see the video of the dad and
the little girl out trick or treating get carjacked in Chicago.
I don't know how many of you saw this video.
I think it's an Asian man. The video is like
a ring camera outside. He's got his the reports our
(11:49):
eight year old daughter. They pull up, they're just going
in the neighborhood. They park on the corner. Almost as
soon as they park, two guys come running up with
guns and take the take the car. This is a
dad in Chicago taking his little girl out trick or treating.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Again.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
The video is out there for all of you to see.
You can watch him pull up and park his car,
and within a minute of him pulling up and parking
the car to start trick or treating, these guys come
running up with pistols and demand his keys. While at
everything else, It's all on a ring camera. And this
(12:28):
is just what people have grown used to experiencing. I
will say I saw a lot and this. A friend
of mine shared his own version of this because of
all these ring cameras, where where kids with the parents
pilfer Yes, the steel that says take one each, just
just fill their bags. That that is disgusting. Dad is disgusting.
(12:49):
I agree, and and and the parents that are there
for this stuff should be a shame. I suspect that
has been happening for a long time. But now that
everybody has video on doorbell cameras, we can see we
should have some fun talking about that, because I do
think you might say, well, why does that matter. I
do think, particularly when the parents are involved, it's just
(13:13):
a sign of a low trust cultural society. But you
talked about in Taiwan, people leave their phones to save
their seats while they go to the bathroom, and every parent.
I've had to talk to my son about this, Like
he went to the bathroom recently and I was like, no,
he left his phone on the table and I said,
you know, you can never do that when you go
to the bathroom. He's like, well, I want the waitress
(13:33):
to know that I'm still here and that I haven't left,
so she doesn't take my food. I'm like, that makes
total sense. I understand it. You can never leave your
cell phone on the table in a restaurant in America
because we live in unfortunately a low trust society. I
think stealing of all that candy, like somebody just saying hey,
please take one, and you take the whole thing. It's
(13:55):
evidence of a low trust society and a culture that
unfortunately is with a great deal of rot. Unfortunately bad cultures.
One thing they all have in common is they don't
think about other people. It's true all over the world right.
A culture that is not something that you want to emulate,
does not care. It is inconsiderate. That is one thing
that they have in common. And I will tell you
(14:17):
when I was in Taiwan, I thought when I was
on the high speed train a few times, one time
I was going down to the military base, I thought, Clay,
I was in a quiet car, which is a wonderful
place of civilization on the Acella train. For those of
you who've ever taken that, it's like the only profitable
Amtrak corridor is Boston to DC and they have this
quiet car on that train.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I wasn't a quiet car.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
I was just in a car full of Taiwanese people
who are respectful and calm and don't play speakerphone conversations
out loud, and don't play music and video games without headphones. Yeah,
it's not a quiet car. It's just a car full
of Taiwanese people, and it was really nice. And let
me tell you this thing that's going on in this
country where people look, oh, it's classist or whatever. It No, No,
(15:01):
it's just manners. It's just manners. Well, it's an ability
to understand that you aren't the only person in the world.
And I mean the older I get, the more I
look around. And culture explains almost everything, but high You
mentioned high trust societies civilization, and a high trust society
(15:21):
within a civilization is premised upon it can't just be
about your needs. Yes, there have to be other things.
There are rules, there are laws, there are social mores,
there are other things that factor. Anyway, who to the
whole show on this, don't get me started. The candy,
the candy swindlers stealing all the candy at once with
(15:43):
their parents, I know, appalling.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
It would also be interesting, buck Well, you got to
go to break.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
But if you layered that over future success in life,
I bet the kids overwhelmingly underperformed because the culture that
their parents have created is one that allows that to occur,
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Speaker 1 (17:06):
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(19:00):
we are joined by our friend Mark Simone Bock. I'm
going to hold up the iPad here so you can wait,
so you can wave to him in studio right now.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Oh there he is.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Yeah, there is in New York in Miami. But you
guys have known each other for a long time. Let's
start off here, Mark, I was just talking about off
the air with you. You have done a lot of
election days in New York City over the years. How
would you break down the New Jersey race just across
the river here with so many people out and the
(19:34):
close race there, and what do you expect to see
in New York City big picture? Where are we about?
What twelve hours or so until election day.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
New Jersey, you cannot predict it's so close, and don't
trust these public polls. These public polls are pretty cheap
and flimsy, so we can't tell by that it looks
like it's deadlocked. I would think that the campaign of
Mikey Cheryl had some serious internal polling, and they because
Obama had endorsed her a couple of weeks ago with
a video that was the endorsement. Now they called them
(20:05):
in panic to come running into New Jersey and go
actually campaign and hold rallies for her. So that means
Chittarelly was very close, if not slightly ahead. One good
thing about New Jersey they never go three terms with
any one party, so they're due for a Republican switch now.
They always do that in New Jersey, and you got
(20:27):
two candidates. Chittarelli is a good candidate. Mikey Cheryl very
very weak. Her whole campaign is that she was in
the Navy and she flew a helicopter, and they even
rented a helicopter to show that she can fly a helicopter.
I don't know if this is even in the job description.
She should probably go join the state troopers. They have
helicopters they use. It doesn't mean that he as governor,
but I would think in the end, Chitdarelli wins. It's
(20:50):
deadl like, but he always underpolls, and everybody's got to
get out there and vote in New Jersey, every Republican
get out there and vote. And again they always switch
parties every couple terms. So I think he wins that
New York mayol race. Again, you can't tell it's we
expected seven eight hundred thousand votes in this election. We're
(21:12):
already at almost a million in the early voting. We'll
get a million tomorrow. It'll go over two million. The
model the polsters used did not count on that at all.
Incredible turnout. Last time we saw a turnout like this
was like sixty years ago, John Lindsay. So it's hard
to say who are these extra people turning out. I
(21:33):
mean anecdotal evidences. They're older voters that tends to go
for Cuomo or Curtis. And again here's the other thing,
but the poles can't measure this. A lot of these
Mom Donnie voters are first time voters. They're not even
on the radar of polsters. Posters wouldn't even know where
to find these people, so they're not counted in the pulsar.
Anything can happen. I hate to be wishing. I'm Mark.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yeah, Mark, I got to ask you about this one
as a South Florida resident. Now, this is certainly on
my radar. New York Post nearly a million New Yorkers
claim they are ready to flee New York City if
Mom Donnie becomes mayor seven hundred and sixty five thousand
of the eight and a half million residents of New
York City. Do you think they'll be if Mom Donnie wins,
(22:19):
which you know it could happen. I know you're saying,
nobody knows it could happen. Do you think there'll be
an outflow from New York or is this stuff all overblown?
Speaker 3 (22:29):
If there is, then Mom Donnie at least will get
credit for solving the traffic problem here in New York.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Good luck there you go.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
But already in the out the suburbs of Connecticut, we've
already seen home people out there looking for homes like crazy.
Even the private schools in Connecticut of all sorts of
New Yorkers trying to register their kids. So people are
looking at it you gotta remember under Cuomo we had
the same problem. We lost a few million people under Cuomo.
(22:54):
He's bad policies. And in fact, under Cuomo we lost
four congressional seats and there was one year where you
couldn't get a moving van. There was a shortage of them.
So we've been through it before. You gotta wait and
see what happens if Mom Donnie wins. I don't. I
don't know. There may be people moving at but I
think at a slower pace than you think. And you
read about these businesses, a big Wall Street firms they're
(23:17):
opening in Dallas, and most of that is back office
stuff that they would have been opening there anyway.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Now, what is your biggest concern?
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Though?
Speaker 1 (23:25):
If Mom Donnie wins, one question we've been banning about
here is what can he really do that's really bad?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Right?
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Some of the stuff that he's saying, it's like listening
to the guy who's running for student council president in
high school who's like, and we're gonna have like a
jacuzzi in every classroom, and you know it, it's absurdly
not gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
But there are things that is mayor he would be
able to do.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
What are the concerns that you have, Mark about if
this guy does end up as the mayor, he would
be able to really make a mess of things.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
How Yeah, he has no control over the buses, that's
the state. He has no control over rent anything, taxes,
that that's the city council. The one concern and it's
the only one. The big one is the police department.
He could put in a really bad police commissioner, a
real left wing kook of a police commissioner who could
stop enforcing certain laws, pull back the police, and all
kinds of things.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
I'm glad you mentioned that, Mark, because I was reading
over the weekend.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
Mom.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Donnie keeps saying I'm going to keep Jessica Tish in.
But then he got pressed on it. I don't know
if you saw this, Buck, because I know you've known
Jessica Tish for a long time. He got pressed on
it and he said, well, I haven't actually spoken to
her and asked her to stay. Yeah, so he keeps
saying to try to make people think, oh, she's done
a good job. New York is safer because she's arresting
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people and she has done a really good job. But Buck,
he hasn't even spoken to her. So, I mean, all
the time you spend campaigning and you've never been able
or willing to go talk to the head of the
NYPD and ask her to stay on. Now, the answer
might be that if that were to occur, or she
would say, well, it's inappropriate for me to talk and
(25:02):
accept jobs from people who haven't won offices. But at
a minimum, shouldn't he have just conveyed that offer. Don't
you think that would make sense if he really thought
she was doing a great job.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Mark, We've all been at the radio stations where the
new owner comes in, We're going to keep everybody, Yeah,
and they do for about a month or two.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
So that could be the case.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
And there are a lot of people saying if he
starts playing around with the police department doing stuff like that,
she wouldn't stay. She wants to run for mayor someday,
so if she sees anything bad happening with the police department,
she will leave it immediately. She's not going to get
tied to him. You know, we saw that with Deblasio.
Those kind of you know, those crazy ideas of domestic violence,
which are the most dangerous calls having a social worker respond.
(25:43):
You know, people don't point out the NYPD has tested
that about fifteen times over the last thirty years and
it always ends in dead social workers.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Yeah, yeah, that's not a surprise. I mean the emotionally
disturbed person EDP, which is the NYPD shorthand for it. Yeah,
is a call that cops get a lot, and it's
not an easy call if people don't even realize.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Mark.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Sometimes a copp will show up and someone is suicidal,
whether they're gonna jump or they're gonna, you know, take
their own life with a firearm. Sometimes they decide they're
gonna take somebody with them right before they go. So
it's actually a very high stress and difficult situation, very
dangerous situation. And to your point, the notion that you
would just send a social worker to try to tell somebody, hey,
(26:25):
you know, get away from the edge of the bridge.
Sometimes they grab people and try to pull them off
the edge of the bridge with them. So, you know,
this is what the cops have to deal with on
unfortunately a far through regular basis. So we got the
Mamdani situation playing out here. Cuomo and Sliwa, how much
of Sleewa's staying in Mark. I know, you know Curtis
personally well a long time. We had him on the
(26:45):
show last week he made his case and we heard
him out on this How much of what we're seeing
is just these two guys just can't stand each other,
you know, Cuomo and Cuomo and Sliwa. There's real personal beef.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Yeah, nobody likes Quoma. They all everybody voting for tell
you how much they hate this guy. He did so
much damage to New York Is because they hate this guy.
But it's like, what was that Remember the election in
the New Orleans where the guy was in prison. He
just got out of prison with the worst guy in
the world. But he was running against David Duke, so
you had to vote for this ex con. But Curtis.
(27:19):
I talked to Curtis earlier today. You know this thing
about getting out of the race a week ago. He
couldn't get out of the race if he wanted to.
He can't take his name off the ballot. And if
you look at the ballot, this is another problem. It's Mom,
Donnie and Curtis. Those are the two names at the
top of the ballot. Cuomo is eight spaces down. You
got to go hunt for him on the ballot, and
this whole thing is Coloma's fault. Had he been any
(27:40):
good in the primary, he would have beaten Mom Donnie.
Cuomo was a total disaster in the primary, got wiped
out in two debates, never campaigned, so he got us
in this position. Curtis has been offered all kinds of
bribes to get out. The largest was ten million.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
He told us that on the air last week. So
Buck asked a good like, Let's pretend you've lived here
a long time. Let's say you wake up tomorrow morning, uh,
and Mom Donnie goes and wins, and you wake up
on Wednesday, your thought is going to be.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
What, Uh, Well, at least we stopped quick I'm a
show to go talk.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
You know, actually we don't want Mom Donnie to win,
But for us, it would probably be the best thing.
We'd have plenty to talk about every day. It'd be
like the pandemic. You know, I got my highest ratings
during the pandemic. Yeah, people were terrified. They'd listen every
day to know what was Hipso yeah, we'd have our
greatest ratings.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Well, in sanity was so rare, as Buck knows, living
in the New York City apartments, Like everybody was losing
their minds and there were very few people speaking saying
but so if he wins, Buck asked a version of
this question. But I do think what would be your positive?
Do you buy in to buy argument that it helps
in the governor's race?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Potentially?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Uh, that Kathy Hokel would have an issue maybe with
a least Stephonic it hurts maybe nationally in the House,
in the Senate if he wins. If Mom, Donnie, we
wake up on Wednesday and he is the gut is
the elected mayor elect of New York City, how do
you been assessing?
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Yeah, you're asolutely right. It's going to help everything, to
help the midterms, is going to help Republicans to be great.
But we'll get wiped out. But it's like your whole
house burns down, but it's good for the fire departments
helping them. But I would tell people we got through
eight years of Deblasio. It was bad, but we got
through it in one piece. And most of the Mamdani
team there ex Deblasio teams, so it'd be a lot
(29:25):
like Deblasio.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
What would you say, Mark, because you were willing, I
remember we talked, when Eric Adams first came into office,
you're willing to give him a chance to do good
things for the city. What would be your you know,
a to f your grade. He dropped out of the race.
He knows he can't win, so he's not going to
be mayor anymore. Eric Adams all in grade as mayor
for the City of New York.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Well, it's the problem is too Eric Adams. The first
three years total disaster. He brought in the worst people,
most of them got indicted, arrested.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
It was horrible.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
He had some more police commissioners than three years and
we had in the last thirty. But then the final
year was great. He brought in Randy Mastro, who was
Giuliani's top guy at city Hall. He ran city Hall,
so he got best guy running city hall. He brought
in Jessica Tish, great police commissioner. In their first month,
she cleaned out all the corruption, got rid of twenty
(30:15):
or thirty major people there. So the last year he
gets an A plus, but the first three years he
gets a total F. So I don't know. I he
agreed that if he had done that year two, he
would still be mayor today.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
By the way.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
This is a bit funny, but Greg Abbott just tweeted
Buck after the polls closed tomorrow night, I will impose
a one hundred percent tariff on anyone moving to Texas
from New York City. So look, I mean where Buck
is down in Florida, where I am in Tennessee. I
gotta be honest with you. I think there's going to
be ed to Texas where Governor Abbitt is. I think
(30:53):
there's going to be a lot of New Yorker saying, heck,
I'm going to get screwed here. Why am I paying
fourteen percent state income to when places like Tennessee, Texas
and Florida have none? And heck, Buck may not even
have property taxes soon. They're talking about doing away with
them completely in Florida, which is just another sales point.
We should just make him emperor, just Stantists of Florida forever.
(31:14):
You know, it's just a governor. It's okay. Just make
him emperor to Stantis to Florida would be fabulous.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Mark.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
We'll have to check in with you and see how
this all goes tomorrow, but thank you for sharing the expertise.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Always appreciate your perspective.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
All right, thanks for the great show every day.
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Speaker 1 (32:39):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. Let's get to some
call some talkbacks. Uh we'll start the noise here with
uh Pam listens on k E N I up and Anchorage, Alaska.
I love our Alaska contingent CE see hit it, Hey, Buck.
Speaker 8 (32:55):
If Clay's going to tease you about your TUTSI roll
dance and not expecting to see that, you could always
counter with, well, I'm sure the construction workers weren't expecting
to see you streak across your room and offer the
suggestion coch here does sell men's bathrobes.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Clay, there are you? Are you a robe guy?
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Our friend Jesse Kelly has been tweeting about how he's
become a robe guy now, and I feel like a
robe is more like a lifestyle, like it's for the spa.
If you start walking around your house in a robe,
are you.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Ever going to do anything? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:28):
The hotels always have robes. No, I'm not a robe guy.
I don't think I've ever really kind of walked around
in a robe. Certainly, Yeah, I guess if you're at
a spa or something like that, maybe it makes sense,
but not a not a big time road guy. By
the way, we got a good call Chip and Brandon, Florida.
We were talking about culture, and I think we can
have some more fun with this when we come back
(33:50):
because a lot of these ring doorbell cameras. I get it,
it's a relatively new thing that we can always see.
But I would tie this in with what they call
him porch pirates, people who are constantly stealing the packages
that are delivered. Probably a lot of you out there
in neighborhoods have seen some of these videos. People say, hey,
do you know who this person is. They're waiting, they're
following the Amazon truck or the ups or whatever it is,
(34:13):
and they're grabbing things. This is a positive story. Chip
in Brandon, Florida, tell us your story.
Speaker 6 (34:21):
Yes, I've accidentally left my wallet in a Sam's Club
and somebody turned it in. I had four hundred dollars
cash in it, and when when I went down there
the next day, all the cash is in it. I
think a red state you have much better chance of
having people do the right thing than in a blue So.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
This is great.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
You were just at a Sam's Club store and you
just accidentally forgot your wallet and somebody turned it in
and all the money was still in it. Correct, That's awesome,
Thank you. I do think red states tend to have,
as a general rule, better cultures than Blue states when
it comes to and look states is tough because I
(35:03):
just mentioned there, even whatever state you're in, forty percent
of people voted Trump, even if you're in a blue state,
And even if you're in a red state, around forty
percent of people voted Kamala. So you're still talking about
in a group of ten people, there's a huge substantial
percentage that are going to agree with you no matter what.
But I do think the culture of look are you
(35:26):
more likely. It would be fascinating to see an experiment
they used to do things like this of a wallet
with you know, one hundred dollars bill peeking out of it,
left on a New York City subway and someone operating
a lost and found counter, you know, within eyesight, how
many people, how many people turn it in, how many
people take one hundred it would be?
Speaker 2 (35:47):
And how do they vote?
Speaker 1 (35:48):
It would be an interesting dynamic to then cross the tabot.
You know, how do they vote in elections? Are they
are they not religious? What would the percentages show who
are most likely to return, who are the least likely?
But again to your point, high high trust societies, low
trust societies.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Okay, when we.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Come back, we'll talk more about New York City, we'll
talk about the governor's races in Virginia, New Jersey, as
we are on the eve of the elections in all
of those places. And let's get in to this question
about I do think it sounds silly, but I do
think it's an interesting cultural example. All of these viral
(36:31):
videos of candy being stolen on porches in the wake
of Halloween Friday, a lot of you out with kids
and grandkids. We'll talk about that and more. Thanks for
hanging with us here on playing Buck
Second hour of Clay and but kicks off. Now everybody,
our friend Mark Simon, mister New York, will be joining
us at the bottom of talk about the New York
Mayor's race, also the New Jersey Governor's race, so some
big stuff to dive into with Mark. Got great sources,
connections and insight into both of those contests. So looking
(00:22):
forward to that conversation. In the meantime, we have Donald Trump,
the one and only that down on sixty minutes with
Nora o'donnelld.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
This was all over the place doing a long form.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
It was an hour sit down, but I think they
only aired like twenty something minutes of it. We wanted
to bring you some of the more interesting moments and
dive into some of that. So here we have first Stop.
Because tomorrow is in fact collection day. Go vote, as
we always say, just make sure you go and do
it. It's a good thing to do. Some places they even
(00:56):
give you a little sticker that says I voted. You know,
it's like when you go to the pd aatrician's office.
Did you get fuzzy stickers when you go to the
pediatricians office? Grown up or something? You know, a little
like a maybe they gave you a Tutsi role, which
is a.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Song by the way.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Oh I know the song well, but I was not
expecting to see as I was sitting at the airport,
caught in travel hell as many people are. Unfortunately right
now you dancing to a song from Was that the
late nineties early two.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Thirty nineties, like ninety three, ninety four?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Oh wow?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yes, But I was in fact doing my version of
the Tutsi role here in studio. I did not expect
to see that. It was as I was texting and
keeping tabs on my flight. I look down and you're dancing.
Play's telling me that he can't unsee it. I don't
even know what that means, you know, but it feels
kind of hurtful. It feels kind of hurtful. So yes, indeed,
(01:49):
they they will give you a at some place at
least the I voted stick or go vote. That's the point.
But on mom, Donnie Trump had this to say, play one.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Zorhan mandan thirty four year old democratic socialist.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
He's the promunist, not socialist communists.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Far He's far worse than assessment.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Some people have compared him to a left wing version
of you charismatic breaking the old rules. What do you
think about that?
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Well, I think I'm a much better looking person than him.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Right, this is just Trump being Trump, plus first he
eats the slams of being a communist, then he's like
a much better, much better looking guy. Trump in his
thirties was, I will say, a very very striking fellow,
flowing hair, jaw line, very good, very good true facts there.
(02:36):
But all the Mamdani issue, Clay, this is going to
get a lot of national attention. If this guy ends
up winning, as you have been saying all along, it
may post some problems for Democrats going into the mid terms,
because every indicator is that they should at least pretend
they're not going to moderate or to be more moderate,
(02:57):
but they should at least pretend to fool voters. That's
a little harder to do if you're going to be
giving endorsements, for example, to a Mamdani like figure, and
without Grandma Pelosi to keep all the members of Congress
in line, things could get pretty crazy over there on
the Democrats side.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
This is why.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
And I may have to give my big speech in
a positive way tomorrow, and I know that there are
a lot of you listening to us in New York City.
But I do think that Democrats are incredibly nervous about
the idea of Mam Donnie being the face of the
Democrat Party because he and AOC are going to become
(03:35):
the faces of the Democrat Party in the midterm for
next year. Best thing you can say about Mom Donni
if he wins is that he's going to have no
impact and he's not going to be able to put
in place the policies that he has campaigned on. And
certainly there is an incentive for all of you listening
in New York. Upstate New York, which is basically everywhere
(03:58):
outside of New York City is actually not that much
different than Alabama. And it sounds funny to people who
think of New York defined entirely as Manhattan as the
New York City area, But you get outside an hour
outside of New York City, buck, and it might as
well be Alabama or Mississippi in in much I mean
(04:21):
the number of.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Tru a little more than an hour. But yeah, yeah,
I get what you're saying. Number signs.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
When we went to Cooperstown, Uh, my boys, my kids
were blown away by the number of Trump signs that
are everywhere all over New York. My point on that is,
Kathy Hochel has an opportunity next year, I think, to
make a run as New York City's governor because I
think Mom Donnie is gonna get out a lot of
(04:48):
voters outside of the.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
New York City.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
The metro area really goes for Like the radius is
at least an hour in the car in all directions,
but Cooperstown, which is a four hour drive.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yes, that's absolutely true.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
You get out into more of the rural parts of
the state, or you know, closer to rural parts of
the state, you get very read very quickly, and you
know there's a lot of people that like hunting and
they own I think that surprises a lot of people
who have spent no time because New York City overwhelms
the idea of New York State. Same thing, by the way,
(05:20):
Pennsylvania Philly and Pittsburgh to a certain extent, but you
drive around the state of Pennsylvania, I think Pennsylvania is
like the fourth most rural state in America, and it
astounds people because they think of Pennsylvania as being basically Philadelphia.
But that's my positive what I would say right now
is if you are looking for reasons of optimism Jack Chittarelli,
(05:45):
right now, if Republicans show up in big numbers tomorrow,
he's going to win. Now, they have to show up
in big numbers. But you can look at the voting
and maybe we get Ryan Gerdesky on tomorrow to talk
about this on election day because you can look at
the number of early votes they have party registration in
the New Jersey. I'm telling you that roughly party line.
(06:08):
Right now, Chittarelli is down about two hundred and fifty
thousand votes. So if Republicans in New Jersey show up
big on election day, Chittarelli can win. They are really
really nervous about that. Virginia, this AG's race is going
to be very close when some earl sears is behind,
(06:30):
but it's down ballot. Lieutenant governor looks winnable. Certainly AG
is winnable. And who knows if all of you out
there in deep red parts of Virginia, many of these
states buck as you well know, there's a huge difference.
I'm not sure any state has more variety in terms
of southwestern Virginia, which is as deep red as you
(06:54):
can possibly get, and northern Virginia, which is basically as
deep blue as.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
You can get.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yet we need everybody out there in Virginia to show
up in big numbers.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
Two.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
And if you're out there and you're saying, Okay, I'm
not really fired up about the candidates, maybe I get
out and vote, because they will certainly use any indication
of their wins to try to demean and tear down
Donald Trump one year after his election and say, look,
they're in trouble. There's no way that they can win.
(07:27):
We're getting out spending big numbers, but we have a
chance to pull a big upset.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
You mentioned DC.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I thought this was an interesting exchange in the CBS
sixty Minutes sit down. Here is now Norah Donald lives
in DC, yep, And she had to be a little
cagy here because.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
She knows if she does the DC's.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Really safe, everybody else in d C is gonna flip
out and be like, don't even try that. Okay, so
she can't do that. But remember Trump tried to start
with DC to make it safer, and now it hopes
to expand that time let out to other places. Here's
how this exchange went on safety, police security, d C
cut three.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
How big a difference is DC now compared to what
it was a year ago?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Right? I mean, you have to be honest with me.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
People walk people in the White House. They woke up
to me, young ladies. I've never seen sir thank you
very much. I know they don't even have to tell
me what they're thanking me for. But when I asked why,
he said one. You know, I said, I'd get into
Uber and I felt dangerous. Even in Uber they'd attacked
the car. Okay, it wasn't even safe. Then Sarah now
(08:34):
walked to work every day, and I walked, I'm so safe.
There's nothing going to happen, one hundred percent safe.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
And you know that too. Normal.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
I want to ask you about that. You live here,
you know that too. I want to ask you about
difference American city in Washington.
Speaker 7 (08:47):
D C.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
I think I've been working too hard. I haven't been
out and about.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
That's not a fair answer.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
You see, I get in my car and.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
I had to use that one don't work.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
It's like, you know, the different like day and night.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
It's interesting that she she Clay a few years ago
or in an earlier era of sixty minutes and Trump
it would have been No, sir, Remember who was it
who did the This is CBS, and we can't verify
things like I think it was Leslie Stall who did
that whole thing the Trump during interview. Yes, we can't
(09:24):
say things that are not true. That they spied on
me was what Trump said, and that absolutely was true.
Now she has to sort of laugh it off with
like I work too much. No, Trump's idea is working,
and she doesn't want to admit it, but she also
can't just blatantly lie about it. Yes, and I saw
they have posted it. This is an example of what
we were talking about in that sixty minutes interview. Buck
(09:46):
they aired twenty seven minutes of the Trump interview. The
actual full length interview was seventy three minutes. So the
president of the United States talk to you for seventy
three minutes.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Good for CBS.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
The change that has occurred since the last CBS interview
that I think is going to last long after Trump
is we're not going to claim that we have all
the control here and just make all the edits that
we want. We're going to show you the entirety of
this seventy three minute interview is all out there. If
you want to see Trump talk for seventy three minutes,
(10:22):
you have that ability. But think about the power that
they still have editorially to cut that to twenty seven minutes.
And I thought Trump handled that well. And to be
fair to Nora O'Donnell, as soon as she says the truth,
which is yeah, DC is way safer, people are going
to say, oh, she's in the tank for Trump, because
(10:43):
then she's endorsing his behavior in terms of calling out
the National Guard. I read a big article though in
the Wall Street Journal saying, Hey, this is absolutely fantastic
what's happening in Memphis, my home state. The number of
people out there that are really responding in a very
(11:06):
positive way is pretty pretty phenomenal. And I just think,
I mean again, for everybody out there that is living
in these cities Washington, DC, Memphis, very different cities, they're
way safer. And the concern for Democrats Buck is well,
(11:28):
if he's right, if he's what if he's right and
all of a sudden, violent crime is plummeting. Buck, I
watched did you see the video of the dad and
the little girl out trick or treating get carjacked in Chicago.
I don't know how many of you saw this video.
I think it's an Asian man. The video is like
a ring camera outside. He's got his the reports our
(11:49):
eight year old daughter. They pull up, they're just going
in the neighborhood. They park on the corner. Almost as
soon as they park, two guys come running up with
guns and take the take the car. This is a
dad in Chicago taking his little girl out trick or treating.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Again.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
The video is out there for all of you to see.
You can watch him pull up and park his car,
and within a minute of him pulling up and parking
the car to start trick or treating, these guys come
running up with pistols and demand his keys. While at
everything else, It's all on a ring camera. And this
(12:28):
is just what people have grown used to experiencing. I
will say I saw a lot and this. A friend
of mine shared his own version of this because of
all these ring cameras, where where kids with the parents
pilfer Yes, the steel that says take one each, just
just fill their bags. That that is disgusting. Dad is disgusting.
(12:49):
I agree, and and and the parents that are there
for this stuff should be a shame. I suspect that
has been happening for a long time. But now that
everybody has video on doorbell cameras, we can see we
should have some fun talking about that, because I do
think you might say, well, why does that matter. I
do think, particularly when the parents are involved, it's just
(13:13):
a sign of a low trust cultural society. But you
talked about in Taiwan, people leave their phones to save
their seats while they go to the bathroom, and every parent.
I've had to talk to my son about this, Like
he went to the bathroom recently and I was like, no,
he left his phone on the table and I said,
you know, you can never do that when you go
to the bathroom. He's like, well, I want the waitress
(13:33):
to know that I'm still here and that I haven't left,
so she doesn't take my food. I'm like, that makes
total sense. I understand it. You can never leave your
cell phone on the table in a restaurant in America
because we live in unfortunately a low trust society. I
think stealing of all that candy, like somebody just saying hey,
please take one, and you take the whole thing. It's
(13:55):
evidence of a low trust society and a culture that
unfortunately is with a great deal of rot. Unfortunately bad cultures.
One thing they all have in common is they don't
think about other people. It's true all over the world right.
A culture that is not something that you want to emulate,
does not care. It is inconsiderate. That is one thing
that they have in common. And I will tell you
(14:17):
when I was in Taiwan, I thought when I was
on the high speed train a few times, one time
I was going down to the military base, I thought, Clay,
I was in a quiet car, which is a wonderful
place of civilization on the Acella train. For those of
you who've ever taken that, it's like the only profitable
Amtrak corridor is Boston to DC and they have this
quiet car on that train.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I wasn't a quiet car.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
I was just in a car full of Taiwanese people
who are respectful and calm and don't play speakerphone conversations
out loud, and don't play music and video games without headphones. Yeah,
it's not a quiet car. It's just a car full
of Taiwanese people, and it was really nice. And let
me tell you this thing that's going on in this
country where people look, oh, it's classist or whatever. It No, No,
(15:01):
it's just manners. It's just manners. Well, it's an ability
to understand that you aren't the only person in the world.
And I mean the older I get, the more I
look around. And culture explains almost everything, but high You
mentioned high trust societies civilization, and a high trust society
(15:21):
within a civilization is premised upon it can't just be
about your needs. Yes, there have to be other things.
There are rules, there are laws, there are social mores,
there are other things that factor. Anyway, who to the
whole show on this, don't get me started. The candy,
the candy swindlers stealing all the candy at once with
(15:43):
their parents, I know, appalling.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
It would also be interesting, buck Well, you got to
go to break.
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But if you layered that over future success in life,
I bet the kids overwhelmingly underperformed because the culture that
their parents have created is one that allows that to occur,
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Welcome back in Clay, Travis buck Sexton, show Mark simone
of our great affiliate war in New York City about
to be with us to talk about the race New
York City mayor also New Jersey as this is a
huge story voting underway here shortly on officially election day,
we will break all that around down for you in
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we are joined by our friend Mark Simone Bock. I'm
going to hold up the iPad here so you can wait,
so you can wave to him in studio right now.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Oh there he is.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Yeah, there is in New York in Miami. But you
guys have known each other for a long time. Let's
start off here, Mark, I was just talking about off
the air with you. You have done a lot of
election days in New York City over the years. How
would you break down the New Jersey race just across
the river here with so many people out and the
(19:34):
close race there, and what do you expect to see
in New York City big picture? Where are we about?
What twelve hours or so until election day.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
New Jersey, you cannot predict it's so close, and don't
trust these public polls. These public polls are pretty cheap
and flimsy, so we can't tell by that it looks
like it's deadlocked. I would think that the campaign of
Mikey Cheryl had some serious internal polling, and they because
Obama had endorsed her a couple of weeks ago with
a video that was the endorsement. Now they called them
(20:05):
in panic to come running into New Jersey and go
actually campaign and hold rallies for her. So that means
Chittarelly was very close, if not slightly ahead. One good
thing about New Jersey they never go three terms with
any one party, so they're due for a Republican switch now.
They always do that in New Jersey, and you got
(20:27):
two candidates. Chittarelli is a good candidate. Mikey Cheryl very
very weak. Her whole campaign is that she was in
the Navy and she flew a helicopter, and they even
rented a helicopter to show that she can fly a helicopter.
I don't know if this is even in the job description.
She should probably go join the state troopers. They have
helicopters they use. It doesn't mean that he as governor,
but I would think in the end, Chitdarelli wins. It's
(20:50):
deadl like, but he always underpolls, and everybody's got to
get out there and vote in New Jersey, every Republican
get out there and vote. And again they always switch
parties every couple terms. So I think he wins that
New York mayol race. Again, you can't tell it's we
expected seven eight hundred thousand votes in this election. We're
(21:12):
already at almost a million in the early voting. We'll
get a million tomorrow. It'll go over two million. The
model the polsters used did not count on that at all.
Incredible turnout. Last time we saw a turnout like this
was like sixty years ago, John Lindsay. So it's hard
to say who are these extra people turning out. I
(21:33):
mean anecdotal evidences. They're older voters that tends to go
for Cuomo or Curtis. And again here's the other thing,
but the poles can't measure this. A lot of these
Mom Donnie voters are first time voters. They're not even
on the radar of polsters. Posters wouldn't even know where
to find these people, so they're not counted in the pulsar.
Anything can happen. I hate to be wishing. I'm Mark.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yeah, Mark, I got to ask you about this one
as a South Florida resident. Now, this is certainly on
my radar. New York Post nearly a million New Yorkers
claim they are ready to flee New York City if
Mom Donnie becomes mayor seven hundred and sixty five thousand
of the eight and a half million residents of New
York City. Do you think they'll be if Mom Donnie wins,
(22:19):
which you know it could happen. I know you're saying,
nobody knows it could happen. Do you think there'll be
an outflow from New York or is this stuff all overblown?
Speaker 3 (22:29):
If there is, then Mom Donnie at least will get
credit for solving the traffic problem here in New York.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Good luck there you go.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
But already in the out the suburbs of Connecticut, we've
already seen home people out there looking for homes like crazy.
Even the private schools in Connecticut of all sorts of
New Yorkers trying to register their kids. So people are
looking at it you gotta remember under Cuomo we had
the same problem. We lost a few million people under Cuomo.
(22:54):
He's bad policies. And in fact, under Cuomo we lost
four congressional seats and there was one year where you
couldn't get a moving van. There was a shortage of them.
So we've been through it before. You gotta wait and
see what happens if Mom Donnie wins. I don't. I
don't know. There may be people moving at but I
think at a slower pace than you think. And you
read about these businesses, a big Wall Street firms they're
(23:17):
opening in Dallas, and most of that is back office
stuff that they would have been opening there anyway.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Now, what is your biggest concern?
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Though?
Speaker 1 (23:25):
If Mom Donnie wins, one question we've been banning about
here is what can he really do that's really bad?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Right?
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Some of the stuff that he's saying, it's like listening
to the guy who's running for student council president in
high school who's like, and we're gonna have like a
jacuzzi in every classroom, and you know it, it's absurdly
not gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
But there are things that is mayor he would be
able to do.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
What are the concerns that you have, Mark about if
this guy does end up as the mayor, he would
be able to really make a mess of things.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
How Yeah, he has no control over the buses, that's
the state. He has no control over rent anything, taxes,
that that's the city council. The one concern and it's
the only one. The big one is the police department.
He could put in a really bad police commissioner, a
real left wing kook of a police commissioner who could
stop enforcing certain laws, pull back the police, and all
kinds of things.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
I'm glad you mentioned that, Mark, because I was reading
over the weekend.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
Mom.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Donnie keeps saying I'm going to keep Jessica Tish in.
But then he got pressed on it. I don't know
if you saw this, Buck, because I know you've known
Jessica Tish for a long time. He got pressed on
it and he said, well, I haven't actually spoken to
her and asked her to stay. Yeah, so he keeps
saying to try to make people think, oh, she's done
a good job. New York is safer because she's arresting
(24:41):
people and she has done a really good job. But Buck,
he hasn't even spoken to her. So, I mean, all
the time you spend campaigning and you've never been able
or willing to go talk to the head of the
NYPD and ask her to stay on. Now, the answer
might be that if that were to occur, or she
would say, well, it's inappropriate for me to talk and
(25:02):
accept jobs from people who haven't won offices. But at
a minimum, shouldn't he have just conveyed that offer. Don't
you think that would make sense if he really thought
she was doing a great job.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Mark, We've all been at the radio stations where the
new owner comes in, We're going to keep everybody, Yeah,
and they do for about a month or two.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
So that could be the case.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
And there are a lot of people saying if he
starts playing around with the police department doing stuff like that,
she wouldn't stay. She wants to run for mayor someday,
so if she sees anything bad happening with the police department,
she will leave it immediately. She's not going to get
tied to him. You know, we saw that with Deblasio.
Those kind of you know, those crazy ideas of domestic violence,
which are the most dangerous calls having a social worker respond.
(25:43):
You know, people don't point out the NYPD has tested
that about fifteen times over the last thirty years and
it always ends in dead social workers.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Yeah, yeah, that's not a surprise. I mean the emotionally
disturbed person EDP, which is the NYPD shorthand for it. Yeah,
is a call that cops get a lot, and it's
not an easy call if people don't even realize.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Mark.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Sometimes a copp will show up and someone is suicidal,
whether they're gonna jump or they're gonna, you know, take
their own life with a firearm. Sometimes they decide they're
gonna take somebody with them right before they go. So
it's actually a very high stress and difficult situation, very
dangerous situation. And to your point, the notion that you
would just send a social worker to try to tell somebody, hey,
(26:25):
you know, get away from the edge of the bridge.
Sometimes they grab people and try to pull them off
the edge of the bridge with them. So, you know,
this is what the cops have to deal with on
unfortunately a far through regular basis. So we got the
Mamdani situation playing out here. Cuomo and Sliwa, how much
of Sleewa's staying in Mark. I know, you know Curtis
personally well a long time. We had him on the
(26:45):
show last week he made his case and we heard
him out on this How much of what we're seeing
is just these two guys just can't stand each other,
you know, Cuomo and Cuomo and Sliwa. There's real personal beef.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Yeah, nobody likes Quoma. They all everybody voting for tell
you how much they hate this guy. He did so
much damage to New York Is because they hate this guy.
But it's like, what was that Remember the election in
the New Orleans where the guy was in prison. He
just got out of prison with the worst guy in
the world. But he was running against David Duke, so
you had to vote for this ex con. But Curtis.
(27:19):
I talked to Curtis earlier today. You know this thing
about getting out of the race a week ago. He
couldn't get out of the race if he wanted to.
He can't take his name off the ballot. And if
you look at the ballot, this is another problem. It's Mom,
Donnie and Curtis. Those are the two names at the
top of the ballot. Cuomo is eight spaces down. You
got to go hunt for him on the ballot, and
this whole thing is Coloma's fault. Had he been any
(27:40):
good in the primary, he would have beaten Mom Donnie.
Cuomo was a total disaster in the primary, got wiped
out in two debates, never campaigned, so he got us
in this position. Curtis has been offered all kinds of
bribes to get out. The largest was ten million.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
He told us that on the air last week. So
Buck asked a good like, Let's pretend you've lived here
a long time. Let's say you wake up tomorrow morning, uh,
and Mom Donnie goes and wins, and you wake up
on Wednesday, your thought is going to be.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
What, Uh, Well, at least we stopped quick I'm a
show to go talk.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
You know, actually we don't want Mom Donnie to win,
But for us, it would probably be the best thing.
We'd have plenty to talk about every day. It'd be
like the pandemic. You know, I got my highest ratings
during the pandemic. Yeah, people were terrified. They'd listen every
day to know what was Hipso yeah, we'd have our
greatest ratings.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Well, in sanity was so rare, as Buck knows, living
in the New York City apartments, Like everybody was losing
their minds and there were very few people speaking saying
but so if he wins, Buck asked a version of
this question. But I do think what would be your positive?
Do you buy in to buy argument that it helps
in the governor's race?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Potentially?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Uh, that Kathy Hokel would have an issue maybe with
a least Stephonic it hurts maybe nationally in the House,
in the Senate if he wins. If Mom, Donnie, we
wake up on Wednesday and he is the gut is
the elected mayor elect of New York City, how do
you been assessing?
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Yeah, you're asolutely right. It's going to help everything, to
help the midterms, is going to help Republicans to be great.
But we'll get wiped out. But it's like your whole
house burns down, but it's good for the fire departments
helping them. But I would tell people we got through
eight years of Deblasio. It was bad, but we got
through it in one piece. And most of the Mamdani
team there ex Deblasio teams, so it'd be a lot
(29:25):
like Deblasio.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
What would you say, Mark, because you were willing, I
remember we talked, when Eric Adams first came into office,
you're willing to give him a chance to do good
things for the city. What would be your you know,
a to f your grade. He dropped out of the race.
He knows he can't win, so he's not going to
be mayor anymore. Eric Adams all in grade as mayor
for the City of New York.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Well, it's the problem is too Eric Adams. The first
three years total disaster. He brought in the worst people,
most of them got indicted, arrested.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
It was horrible.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
He had some more police commissioners than three years and
we had in the last thirty. But then the final
year was great. He brought in Randy Mastro, who was
Giuliani's top guy at city Hall. He ran city Hall,
so he got best guy running city hall. He brought
in Jessica Tish, great police commissioner. In their first month,
she cleaned out all the corruption, got rid of twenty
(30:15):
or thirty major people there. So the last year he
gets an A plus, but the first three years he
gets a total F. So I don't know. I he
agreed that if he had done that year two, he
would still be mayor today.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
By the way.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
This is a bit funny, but Greg Abbott just tweeted
Buck after the polls closed tomorrow night, I will impose
a one hundred percent tariff on anyone moving to Texas
from New York City. So look, I mean where Buck
is down in Florida, where I am in Tennessee. I
gotta be honest with you. I think there's going to
be ed to Texas where Governor Abbitt is. I think
(30:53):
there's going to be a lot of New Yorker saying, heck,
I'm going to get screwed here. Why am I paying
fourteen percent state income to when places like Tennessee, Texas
and Florida have none? And heck, Buck may not even
have property taxes soon. They're talking about doing away with
them completely in Florida, which is just another sales point.
We should just make him emperor, just Stantists of Florida forever.
(31:14):
You know, it's just a governor. It's okay. Just make
him emperor to Stantis to Florida would be fabulous.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Mark.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
We'll have to check in with you and see how
this all goes tomorrow, but thank you for sharing the expertise.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Always appreciate your perspective.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
All right, thanks for the great show every day.
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but not a not a big time road guy. By
the way, we got a good call Chip and Brandon, Florida.
We were talking about culture, and I think we can
have some more fun with this when we come back
(33:50):
because a lot of these ring doorbell cameras. I get it,
it's a relatively new thing that we can always see.
But I would tie this in with what they call
him porch pirates, people who are constantly stealing the packages
that are delivered. Probably a lot of you out there
in neighborhoods have seen some of these videos. People say, hey,
do you know who this person is. They're waiting, they're
following the Amazon truck or the ups or whatever it is,
(34:13):
and they're grabbing things. This is a positive story. Chip
in Brandon, Florida, tell us your story.
Speaker 6 (34:21):
Yes, I've accidentally left my wallet in a Sam's Club
and somebody turned it in. I had four hundred dollars
cash in it, and when when I went down there
the next day, all the cash is in it. I
think a red state you have much better chance of
having people do the right thing than in a blue So.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
This is great.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
You were just at a Sam's Club store and you
just accidentally forgot your wallet and somebody turned it in
and all the money was still in it. Correct, That's awesome,
Thank you. I do think red states tend to have,
as a general rule, better cultures than Blue states when
it comes to and look states is tough because I
(35:03):
just mentioned there, even whatever state you're in, forty percent
of people voted Trump, even if you're in a blue state,
And even if you're in a red state, around forty
percent of people voted Kamala. So you're still talking about
in a group of ten people, there's a huge substantial
percentage that are going to agree with you no matter what.
But I do think the culture of look are you
(35:26):
more likely. It would be fascinating to see an experiment
they used to do things like this of a wallet
with you know, one hundred dollars bill peeking out of it,
left on a New York City subway and someone operating
a lost and found counter, you know, within eyesight, how
many people, how many people turn it in, how many
people take one hundred it would be?
Speaker 2 (35:47):
And how do they vote?
Speaker 1 (35:48):
It would be an interesting dynamic to then cross the tabot.
You know, how do they vote in elections? Are they
are they not religious? What would the percentages show who
are most likely to return, who are the least likely?
But again to your point, high high trust societies, low
trust societies.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Okay, when we.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Come back, we'll talk more about New York City, we'll
talk about the governor's races in Virginia, New Jersey, as
we are on the eve of the elections in all
of those places. And let's get in to this question
about I do think it sounds silly, but I do
think it's an interesting cultural example. All of these viral
(36:31):
videos of candy being stolen on porches in the wake
of Halloween Friday, a lot of you out with kids
and grandkids. We'll talk about that and more. Thanks for
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