November 26, 2025 • 37 mins
Hour 2 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show delivers a powerhouse discussion centered on law enforcement, transparency, and accountability under the leadership of FBI Director Kash Patel and current sitting President Donald Trump. This Thanksgiving Eve edition opens with Patel addressing recent media scrutiny from outlets like The New York Times and Wall Street Journal, emphasizing that the FBI is stronger than ever despite baseless attacks. Historic FBI Achievements: Patel reports double the violent offender arrests compared to last year, a 55% drop in Memphis homicides in just three months, and major reductions in murder rates nationwide. The FBI seized 127 million lethal doses of fentanyl, a 31% increase, and dismantled 764 child exploitation networks, marking a 300% surge in pedophile arrests. Under Trump’s directive, the FBI has turned over 40,000 documents to Congress in nine months, far surpassing previous administrations. Patel calls this the most transparent era in FBI history. The show dives into the Epstein Transparency Act, with Patel confirming the Trump administration reopened the case. Despite legal hurdles with the Epstein estate, the FBI remains committed to releasing files while protecting victims’ rights. Hosts question the origins of Epstein’s $600 million estate, sparking a broader conversation on global banking secrecy, offshore accounts in the Cayman Islands, and financial transparency. Patel assures listeners that the FBI followed every lead, briefed President Trump throughout, and found no evidence of a broader conspiracy. All shooter devices and social media accounts were seized, reinforcing the Bureau’s commitment to facts over speculation. Patel advocates for a public, televised trial to counter conspiracy theories, drawing parallels to the O.J. Simpson case and emphasizing maximum transparency. Patel outlines a sweeping purge of leakers and politicized actors, ending the weaponization era of Russiagate-style abuses. He promises continued accountability and high-profile indictments before year-end. Looking ahead, Patel teases major developments in December, including more disclosures and arrests in ongoing high-profile cases such as the NBA/MLB investigation involving Chauncey Billups and Damon Jones. The next hour promises insights from Miranda Devine on judicial accountability and the latest dropped prosecution against President Trump. The hour touches on Jimmy Lai’s imprisonment in Hong Kong, CCP extortion tactics, and calls for Trump to intervene, framing the discussion around free speech and international pressure points. The segment closes with NFL Thanksgiving picks, holiday traditions, and listener debates on topics like seat reclining and height discrimination, adding a lighter touch to a news-heavy hour.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in our number two Thanksgiving Eve edition,
Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We are thankful for all
of you, and we hope that you are being safe
as you travel across the country to be with your
friends and family and loved ones on Thanksgiving. We are
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joined now. But a guy that both Buck and I
are thankful is the FBI director. He is Cash Battel.
Happy Thanksgiving, Cash, and congrats on what I think most
of us would say has been a really good first year.
But I want to start with this. You know you're
doing a lot right when the Wall Street Journal and
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the New York Times both had huge expose's on you
that basically said, yeah, this guy's working a lot, he's
traveling a lot, and he has a girlfriend. I don't
know that I've ever seen as much attention paid to
a girlfriend before, But congrats. What's it been like to
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have Buck and I were talking about this on the
show and off air, but it feels like you kind
of cycle around where somebody is the target, and right
now the mainstream legacy media has decided you're the target.
So how's it going.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Well, first of all, it's so great to be with
you guys. Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family. I'm
stuck in DC on duty, but that's okay. That's what
the job requires and that's what we give it. You're right,
we've had a historic year. We've taken down twice as
many violent fenders as last year. Loan, he's more phentanyl
than ever before. Struck a deal with China, the shut
off fentanyl precursors arrested more than four hundred and ninety
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percent increase in seven sixty four extremist those attempting to
and violating our children's rights. And that's just the tip
of the iceberg. This FBI is on fire, and that's
why the mainstream media is coming after you. They know
they politicize the FBI and law enforcement like never before
during Russia Gate and Arctic Frost, and they know where
sitting in the seat to expose it, and that's exactly
what they're going to do. And they're baseless attacks, baseless
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attacks against my girlfriend and me and Alexis, by the way,
is a brilliant country music star and conserve commentator in
our own rights. With the fact that the mainstream media
has decided to come after me through her is disgusting
and despicable, but it also tells us we're strong enough
to get through it, and we're over the target and
claim buck, we're not stopping. Wait till you see what
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we got coming up in another week.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Erness Well, Director Patel, we have we have a lot
of faith and you and Deputy Director Bongino and have
have kept that faith all along, as the audience knows,
because we know you guys, and we know what you
approach this job with and and why you took this
job as well, I will note to what Clay said,
It is very clear to us that like the eye
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of sourn has moved from from Secretary of War, hegseeth
you know, the New York Times going all out on
him to now the eye of sore and is on you.
But we know that you'll be you'll be finding this
in fact here quick, real quick, President Trump, there was
a story circulating a day or what the last twenty
four hours. They're all saying that you know that that
that Trump is thinking about your your replacement, and he
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spoke to this and basically said, fat chance, fake news.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Oh he's doing a good job, Cash Metel, No, he's
doing a great job.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
I think listen to the President handles that just like
what are you even what are you even talking about?
But clearly they're trying to create dissension uh in the ranks,
so to speak, Cash, and I want you to speak
to something that we want to give more attention to
because it's so important, the federal efforts to bring down
violent crime in cities and some of the places like Memphis,
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places like Saint Louis, Washington, d C. Can you speak
to that please and give us some of the numbers
in the stats, because the mainstream legacy media clearly doesn't
want admit they've been wrong on this one.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Absolutely, that's the mission here, protect the homeland and crush
violent crime. And President Trump authorized us to do just that.
And the FBI has been the beach ed in places
like Memphis and Saint Lewis and Miami and so many
other cities across the country. Violent crime exploded into the
bidinary administration, and the prior FBI leadership allowed it to
blossom and did nothing about it. What we did we
took a thousand agents out of Washington, DC and moved
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them into the field permanently. Every single state got a
plus up of intelligence analysts and FBI agents and they
hit the streets. And what happens when you do that.
You get thirty thousand arrests, twenty five thousand of which
of violent offenders. That's twice as many as last year alone.
And we don't even have December done yet. And in
terms of murder rate, we are chopping the murder rate
in major cities by thirty and forty percent, and that
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this alone, the homicide rate is down fifty five percent
in three months. That is an unbelievable number for the
city that has the highest per capita homicide in the
United States of America. At the FBI, I'm focused on
letting good, costly cops. Me and Deputy Director are here
to push the agents out to the field where the
work is and the fentandel seizures. We've see one hundred
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and twenty seven million lethal dose as a sentinel. That's
a thirty one percent increase alone. And we're taking the
fight to our enemies. And we're also engaging with partners
like the CCP where we can to shut off sentinel
precursors and make sure they don't devastate our young communities
around the country. And that's just a little bit of
what we're doing. We're also the most transparent agency now
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forty thousand documents turned over to Congress by this FBI
nine months. Ray did thirteen thousand in an entire seven years,
and Comy did three thousand in his entire three years.
So if there are people saying we're not transparent and
committed to oversight, just look at the evidence when.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
You I know, we're really good friends with Charlie Kirk
and one of the biggest challenges of any of these jobs.
And Buck and I were live on the air when
the shooting happened. It was obviously devastating for us and
for everybody out there listening. What can you tell us
about that investigation? Do you believe based on what you've
seen so far? And I know there's a trial coming up,
so you may have to tiptoe around it a little bit,
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do you believe that that individual acted alone? And also
do you hope, because I do, that this trial is
as public as possible so that people can see it
in all of the evidence that your agents and other
law enforcement have brought to bear. There, what Can you
tell us about that investigation in that case.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, you guys know, we're all super close with Charlie,
and you know, when you're that director of the FBI
and you're tasked with leading for the nation's manhunt for
your friend, you got to put that piece aside. And
we were able to find the perpetrator in thirty three hours.
And that's because the FBI cut videos directly from the
University value Utah security systems, publicizing for the world and
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the nation, and then we were able to apprehend this individual.
But that's just step one. Like you said, there's a trial.
And the good thing about state court, as you guys know,
is there can be cameras. On my federal court. There
are no cameras allowed ever, so I'm hoping there's a
camera in there and i want the world to see
how we put on the display of evidence. And it's
a state prosecution, so the FBI has a partner, but
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we're not the lead. But this, I think everybody at
Turning Point in Erica and everybody in Charlie's universe knows this.
FBI is committed to investigating absolutely every single lead and
that's what we're doing. On top of that. We're protecting
the integrity investigation by not disclosing information prematurely. The prosecution
must come first. Our biggest failure after this tragedy would
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be to allow this individual to walk freely because of
a mythqueue of evidentiary collection or disclosure of improper information.
I'm not going to let that happen.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
We're speaking the FBI Director Cash Pattel and Director Patel.
The audience here has been for a long time, very
very consistent on they want more transparency when it comes
to Epstein files. DOJ we know we just had this vote.
President Trump came out in favor of the Epstein Transparency Act,
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huge votes or rather almost unanimous votes in an incentate
in the House in order to release more files.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Can you can?
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Can you speak to this because there has been among
the Trump faithful a lot of frustration with some of
the stops start on this and what feels to some
like hiding the football, like just you know what's out there,
you know what's coming out.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I wanted to give you the floor.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
To address people who support President Trump, supported the pick
of you and Deputy Director Bongino, and specifically wanted to
get to the heart of this issue. So what can
you tell everybody about that?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Absolutely, Look, we have to remind the audience that President
Trump was the one who had the audacity and compunction
and right face so to reopen the Epstein case. The
US Attorney Acosta over fifteen years ago handle this case
and basically bootstrapped any future investigation because he limited the search,
flarence and investigatory parameters and got judges to sign off
on it and agreed to a non prosecution deal and
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agree to a prohibition against the disclosure of information. Now,
once President Trump reopened that and we're now in the
second Trump administration, we committed to reviewing every single piece
of information in there for any credible leads and for
anyone out there saying, oh, we're protecting pedophiles. We have
arrested three hundred percent more pedophiles during the nine months
that I've been there for that director, and year to
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date last year alone, we have dismantled child pedophile rings
and are crushing seven sixty four networks. So we're on it,
but we cannot violate court orders and put out information
that a federal judge is prohibited us. On top of that,
there are victims' rights where we will always protect victim's rights,
but we have been committed to work with Congress to
put out as much as we can. The Department of
Justice is beyond back to court twice now to get
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permission for us to disclose more information. And the biggest distinction,
by the way, is that there's the Epstein estate. They
have had information for years that they have refused to
turn over to law enforce and authorities. And by the way,
this FBI has been asking everybody that represents the victim,
anyone that knows anything about these alicious, alleged acts of
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sexual deviance and violence, please come forward.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Wait, wait, can you explain this because this is how
is it that the estate, I mean, you're the FBI. Well,
I think people hear this. What do you mean that
they won't release, Like, don't they have to release?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
No, anyone's in state, it's your state, someone else's a
state unless there is a criminal violation occurring there there
is no lawful mechanism to force an a state to
surrender information. And that's the key the battle with But
what I was saying earlier is we've asked not only
the estate and everybody else who's been saying we have
information of new victims, of people on Congress holding their
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microphone rallies and everything. Do you not many people have
come forward to this FBI with quote unquote new information. Zero,
not one person. Every time I ask, no one comes forward.
This FBI will investigate any new leaves. And we're also
committed to transparency, as they said, forty thousand pages to
Congress in just nine months alone. We're not hiding anything.
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We're committed to max transparency while protecting victims' rights, and
we are going to a vide by whatever court orders
there are because those are the laws of the land.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
We did ask for some of our VIPs, Director Pattel,
to send in their thoughts and questions for you. One
coming in from lewis here, how is it going with
the subversives and those who are not dedicated to the
mission in the FBI and leakers who are trying to
play political games? Basically, Director Ptel, how's the cleanup of
the FBI going fantastic?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
This institution of law enforcement will be just that, there
will be no weaponization and no politicization. And those people
that have been jettison from the scrolls of the FBI
have been done so because they failed to meet the
mission standards or their ethical obligations. And so we are
going across the country and replacing anyone and removing anyone
who fails to meet our high standard here. As we've
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done that, we're going to continue to do that. I'm
committed to that because that's what President Trump was elected for,
to make sure we end the weaponization. No more Russia Gate,
no more artic for us, no more illegal spying on
political opponents, members of Congress, and staffers, including like myself,
submitting us to countless hours of grand jury and courtroom expenditures.
We have ended that era, and anyone who participate in
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it will be exposed and held accountable.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
What can you tell us about the Trump assassination investigation?
The first one, because unfortunately, I know there was two.
There were reports out there Tucker Carlson New York posts saying, hey,
this guy had substantial actions online, that he was potentially
trans influenced. I mean a furry, I mean, this is crazy.
(12:30):
I mean I'm curious whether you think there is when
you look at Minneapolis, when you look at Nashville, when
you look at the allegations of Utah, and maybe the
allegations of this Trump shooter is trans violence being under investigated.
But what can you tell us about the investigation of
that first Trump shooter, potential trans connections anybody else? Do
you believe the acted alone? What does the evidence show?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
We follow the evidence and that's it. And we've brief
present Trump the entire way, and he's been fully satisfied
with our investigatory steps. We got into this FBI, the
prior FBI, for whatever mistakes they made and for whatever
information they didn't release, we've released everything we possibly can,
and we've told the public we see every device, got
into every device of the assailants, got into all of
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his social media, all of his email accounts, and we've
publicized that information. And if there was any investigatory lead
that actually led to anyone else, we will one hundred
percent take it. But again it goes back to credible information.
If you post something on social media and someone comments
on it and that's not a connection necessarily, that's not
necessarily credible. It's like going on x and following a
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million comments from the client Buck Show. But we look
at every single one of them. Will we will not
leave any stone unturned, and that's what we did here.
We redoubled our efforts and we will continue to take
any new information that develops.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
You started with us saying next couple of weeks, we
got some things coming again. Buck and I are excited.
You're there. We're excited. Dan Bongino's there. We think you
guys have done a fantastic job. What kind of prediction
can you give us as we move into December? What
should people be paying attention to in your mind? What
would you like them to know?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
More accountability on high profile cases that's coming for sure.
We're going to disclose. This is the battle rhythm. We
said here for the first time ever at the FBI,
we are simultaneously disclosing the Congress while simultaneously investigating. That's
never been done before. You've seen the stonewalling from prior administrations,
and we're not doing that. But we are not going
to cripple an investigation before we get to the end points.
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You're going to see that. You're also going to see
things like historic reduction and murder rates across the country
by double digits. We'll put those numbers out in December.
That is a massive victory for the American people brought
to you by the Trump administration and this FBI, and
we're about to bring some arrests for high profile cases,
and we'll just again, we will let the indictments and
the public prosecution speak to our efforts. Those that say
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we know van and I never say, sit here and
trust us. Look at the body of work that this
FBA is done. And when you look at them, mainstream
media's attack. If we're so failing, if we're so bad,
how is it that we have record historic arrests and
record amounts of safety for the American people, record drug seizures,
record narcotics arrests, record arrests of stopping terrorism attacks like
we did in Michigan. And the mainstream media came in
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after us for that as well. If we followed them,
they would have allowed us to arrest the individuals after
they killed Americas. This FBI is not failing.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
You had a recent press conference where you announced the
arrest of Chauncey billups of NBA prominent players, Damon Jones
also MLB. Do you think that investigation is complete or
their potential other individuals that could be charged related to
those incidents.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
That investigation is ongoing.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
All right, FBI Director Patel, thank you so much for
making the time for us. Thanks for all the work
you're putting in over there. You have our best the
Deputy Director Bongino. You know we're thinking about him too.
Happy Thanksgiving to you and to all the men and
women of the FBI who are doing it the right
way and getting the job done.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Thank you, Thank you guys. Happy Thanksgiving. Appreciate your wonderful audience.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
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the news today, including the final shoe dropping or a
case getting dropped the better way to put it, prosecution
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with her. We also want to get to a lot
of your Thanksgiving thoughts and talkbacks here. It is really
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Speaker 1 (19:35):
A lot of reaction pouring in are thanks to FBI
director Cash Bettel for joining us on the Wednesday before Thanksgiving.
I think we hit him with everything that is out
there under the sun right now. You guys can react,
by the way, eight hundred and two two two eight
a two, whether it's Charlie Kirk assassination, I think that's
a big take. And I don't know that we spent
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a lot of time talking about this Buck that one
hundred percent has to be televised. There are way too
many conspiracy theories out there if you don't allow everything
to be seen publicly. And I appreciate Cash Ptel coming
on and saying, yes, we want it to be public.
Sometimes you can't put trials on television. And I know
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that there are issues sometimes with trials being on television
and lawyers mugging for the cameras and all those things.
I understand it, trust me, But I think the benefit
to being able to see it for yourself as opposed
to someone else reporting to you what occurred, is invaluable.
And there are and Bucky, you have seen them. I've
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seen them. Every single person listening to us right now
has seen crazy conspiracy theories taking off. Relating to the
Charlie Kirk assassination, Erica Kirk, his widow, has said, I
want the trial public to me, she should get to decide.
And again, in state courts, in certain court rooms they
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allow you to put the case on television. Certainly the
most famous case on television of all time was OJ
but it's a Utah case. In a Utah state court,
they allow televising there. If the judge will allow it,
I would say, please do this, please, please please. I
think it's the right call Erica Kirk wants it. The
FBI director wants it. Shine the light on everything and
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let this story and the prosecution fully be covered. I
bet you're signing on as well. We haven't even asked
about this, but you agree.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Yeah, of course you want you want absolutely maximum transparency.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
That was interesting to me.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
That that's why I asked Director Patel about it. I mean,
I've known him as Cash for years, but he is
the director. So I'm trying to you know, I'm still
trying to get used to Pete as Secretary of War.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Secretary of Defense, sure, but secretary of war. I gotta
do it.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Two for one, not call him Pete because he's running
the Pentagon, and two secretary of War, not Defense. But yes,
Cash Pattel was with us just now, but I asked
him about the estate. I understand what he's saying is, well,
unless there's a criminal predicate to take or unless there's
like a criminal investigatory basis for those files, But wouldn't
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there easily be I still am a little bit confused
as to how the estate can hold. There must be
some procedural thing. I mean, he addressed it, but I'm
not a lawyer, so lawyer, Clay, I am, I am,
and I don't understand, but to trust me. I took
wills and estates twenty some odd years ago. Thankfully, I
have not been involved in probate in any kind of
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professional way. Here's what I do know about that case, Buck,
and I do think this is important. My understanding is
that Will went through probate in the US Virgin Islands.
I'm actually a licensed attorney in the US Virgin Island.
That's a that's a real cocktail party trivia thing. There
are not very many of us. I'm licensed in the
US Virgin Islands and in Tennessee. I took the bar
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exam back to back years. I practiced law in the
US Virgin Islands. I know that the probate for his
occount and this is the part of this the Epstein case.
I understand everybody focused on the victims.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Victims have been paid hundreds of millions of dollars in
civil payout from the estate. To me, the most interesting
part of the Epstein case at this point in time,
that is rarely discussed and we still don't know, and
you and I have talked about it some on this
per money. How in the world was his estate seven
hundred million money.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
That's you know, him being a guy who was clever
and around rich people and building in a state of
seven or even seventy million dollars. I would say, okay,
I mean I still think it was fishy, but seven
hundred million, no way. Sorry, there's no way you did
this without doing things. Or rather, when I say did
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this the money came from somewhere, we need to know
where the money came from. It did not come from
completely separate from his sex crimes. Okay, I'm saying it
did not come separate from that from him being good
at tax advice.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
It did not.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
That is not a That is not a credible or
applausible explanation his estate.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I wanted to make sure I got it right, so
I just looked it up. Was I said, seven hundred apologies,
six hundred million, okay, okay, yeah, but Buck, when I
talked to rich guys and they you know, the Epstein
case comes up, and they're like, hey, what do you
think was going to rich guys? Every rich guy that
is really rich I'm talking about like super rich guys.
They're like, there's no way that he ended up with
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six hundred million dollars without creating a company, without building something.
I mean again, to your point, you could end up
worth twenty million dollars, thirty million dollars as a financial
advisor for people. The guy never had some sort of
like a private equity fund. He was never a hedge
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fund guy. He was just a tax advice guy. There's
no way that he ends up worth six hundred million
dollars given tax advice.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Like my tax advice guy's great, but he drives a Volvo.
You know, let's be you know, your shaded Volvos.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
But no tax advice guy is driving a Lamborghini. You
might want to be like, I mean, what kind of
tax advice is he giving? Right, if he has an
eighty million dollar townhouse.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
I was gonna say, maybe he has a Lamborghini. He's
really good at it, but he has a private island
and a private jet. I'd be like, I want to
be the tax advice man in eighty millions. To your point,
one of the most expensive homes in all of Manhattan.
It doesn't add up. Okay, it does not at a
full stop. And that's the part of this that I'm
still I think we may get more of that transparency
from the release.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Uh, but you know, we'll see We're going to stay
on this.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
There will be more information to talk about. Just to
be clear, there will be more documents and more things
and more revelations from the state is happening. So it's happening.
We can't tell you what's in those files until they're
released and once you know, if we knew, we would
tell you, but we don't. And once that happens, we'll
dive back into that. But I will say that the
people who were very frustrated initially with the guys trust us.
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There's nothing else that you need to see in there.
They were right, and Trump has admitted that they were right.
And now they'll be more released and we'll see what's released.
Now will that be enough?
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Clay?
Speaker 3 (26:11):
And this even goes to the televising of the Charlie
Kirk assassination trial. There will be people for whom there
is no such thing as enough transparency. But we have
to push it to the point where all reasonable people
can see that.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Right.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
There will be people who say, no.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Stuff is and I want to be if someone wants
to say they don't have all the answers, but they
believe that there is stuff that has been removed from
the files. Fine, if people who claim to have the
answers because of things that aren't in evidence, that's where
I think it goes too far. Like you have to
have the proof to tell me that you know. If
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you still have more questions, that's fine. But if you
think you have the answer that nobody else does and
it's a big it's a big conclusion you're coming to.
There have to be facts in evidence here.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
This is why to me, the money is the story,
because you can trace money if you really commit to it. Right,
six hundred million dollars is tough to move around. It
is tough to end up with legally, we know that
he had that as an estate, and so banking secrecy
is not really a thing anymore the way it was
because to turn over every ten thousand dollars transaction, which
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is not that much, especially with inflation now, I mean
a lot of people, you know, ten thousand dollars is
we're talking hundreds of millions of dollars, Like you should
be able to trace and track where that came from
in some way, and.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
People can try to hide their money. And I'm trying
to think of some of the Islands. I mean it's
really Cayman Islands. Switzerland obviously no.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
No, Switzerland, they're actually to catch gone now they started
to catch people, but that's no. But they turn it
over right switt Switzerland. Switzerland used to be.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
There was a guy I forget that, I forget the
details of the story some of you will know, but
there was someone on the banking side who basically released
all the like files of all the Americans who were
stashing money there. And ever since then with Switzerland has
just been Yep, we're not We're not doing that hiding
your money thing anymore. People are America is gonna know
the Caymans. There's a little off the cook.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Islands, I think is what I'm talking.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Cayman Islands is is like considerable place in terms of
population everything else.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
The number of businesses that are based in the in
the Cayman I think there's a population of one hundred
thousand and there's something like millions of businesses that are
based in the Cayman Islands. The banks, uh they are
so yes, it is still a place where lots of
money can can be You're right by.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
The way, it's it's people still try in Switzerland. But
I wouldn't you know, if if I were a bad
guy trying to hide money, I'd be very worried about that. Uh, Luxembourg,
Hong Kong, good luck with that. CCP can just be like,
you know what, it's our money now. Yeah, I was
speaking to I was speaking to a Chinese. Uh it
was it was at a social event, a Chinese businessman
(28:55):
recently Clay. They just held them in print. He's Chinese.
He would held in prison by the CCP as extortion
and it was like a local guy who was connected,
who knew he could do it, and he had to
pay millions of dollars to get himself out of prison.
And they were just like, yeah, we're gonna keep you
here until you go crazy or give us the money
we want. So how do your money? They've done to
(29:16):
Jimmy Lai. I mean, it's a story that should get
more attention. I would like to see Trump be able
to get him out. If you haven't studied that from
a free speech perspective. I had dinner with Jimmy Lai's
right hand man when I was in Taiwan and spoke
about this with him at length, and he's very you know,
he look, he knows that Trump wants to and but
there needs to be more attention on this. This guy's
been in prison for seven years for running a newspaper
(29:39):
and it's a total sellout of the two systems one
country thing in Hong Kong. But Jimmy Lai, the guy's
in his seventies, he's not in good health. He's being
held in a CCP dungeon essentially for running a newspaper
that just wasn't under the control of the CCP, and
some of them got ticked off at him. And anyway, I
bring it up because Hong Kong good luck. You're right
about the Caymans, by the way, so they still have
(30:00):
pretty decent banking secrecy, uh there, but there are very
few places. Yeah, the say shells, you know, it starts
to get.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
I think the British Virgin Islands still has a little
bit of h but they're under the British flag. But yeah,
the Caymans is the place that you would want to
go if you're trying to hide things. I think now
in you're I was right about the cook Islands, by
the way.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
I don't even know they're in like the South Pacific right,
I don't even know where the Cook Islands are.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
That's real.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
That's that's like elite level geography knowledge of the Cook Islands.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
You got to look that one up. By the way, Uh,
we'll come back to some of this, We'll take some
of your calls. I think we hit everything. Appreciate Cash
Betel coming on with this. Miranda Divine is going to
be on with this top of the next hour.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
I did think he kind of teased that there's more
coming before the end of the year. Yeah, which will
be interesting. And I thought when he said, for those
of you out there who saw the big press conference
and the arrest of Chauncey Billups and Damon Jones, the
NBA the mafia case, that investigation is ongoing, other people
getting wrapped up in that could turn into a a
(31:00):
real mess. So we'll see. By the way, we haven't
talked about this too. Maybe in the third hour we
can get into it a little bit. I want to
get your take on what's going to happen with Venezuela
and what should happen, because it seems like that's getting
closer and closer to a pressure point officially being reached
in some way and I've got to take on that.
Here you go, Buck, this is gonna win. I feel
(31:21):
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Speaker 3 (32:55):
I think we had said we were gonna do this, right, guys,
So I'm now just putting on the spot on the
air with lots and lots of people listening. Can we
take recommendations for Christmas music this year? We're gonna do that, right,
We can do that. So we're gonna make this a
little bit of a of a crowd sourcing, but you
are our crowd and we love you. You can send
in on your VIPs, your talkbacks. If you have specific
(33:17):
Christmas music suggestions, you can send them to us and
we'll put together a compilation and we'll start We'll have
some great Christmas stuff. I just think that's fun, Clay.
I'm getting in the Christmas spirit even though it's a
day before Thanksgiving, because I think these holidays are really
all one holiday season and I'm moved by the holiday spirit.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Well, that is very anti Grinch of you. I will
also point out you now have he's too young to
really be into Santa Claus. Next year he'll be what
about a year and seven months, he'll have some cognition
of it. And then when you get to about two
and a half, when you have young kids that are
really excited about Santa and the holiday season, it is
(33:57):
awesome as a parent to get to go back and
you live your young childhood Christmases. And I think there's
a lot of people out there with young kids, young
grand kids who know exactly what I'm talking about. Their
eyes and the magic with which it is reflected and
you are able to nostalgically remember it yourself but also
see it through their eyes is an incredible experience. And
(34:20):
so you're about to get to have fun with it.
You're in New York, which, yes they have a Communist
but they also have great decorations.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
They don't have a community yet, to be fair. He
takes over January first. It's Eric.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
I'm in eric Adamstown still so but it is for
people who have never been to New York City. The trees,
the Christmas festivity of New York City is very very
well done, very different compared to you in Miami, where
it's eighty degrees and Santa's got a shorts on. I'm
not going to lie.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
We got off the plane yesterday and it was absolutely
like driving rain and fifty degrees and I look at
my wife, I was like, I'm so glad we left
eighty degrees with a light breeze and perfectly honey to
be here. But it's okay because we're with our family
and that's what matters, not perfect weather, no state income tax,
and the ability to buy all the guns I want.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
All right.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
VIP email from Lewis, Grateful for the work that you
guys do every day. Even if you don't like me
because I'm a seat recliner, Lewis, we still like you.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I don't like him, Okay, I do, Louis. I'm gonna
come out on the top you. You and Lewis. I mean,
we might agree on a lot of other things, but
if you're a seat recliner, I'm just gonna be like,
I'm not gonna just pretend that this is not an issue,
and I think we have what did lewis? Is he
the one who says he's.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Five to five and he that's Chris Vip email from
Chris as a five foot five man, also known as
a short king. I believe in today's Carlance as a
five foot five man. I am in the seat in
front of you on a plane. I am reclining you
rip on short men and tell us the reason I
had women problems when I was younger is my height.
The only way I can get back at you tall guys,
ha ha, love your show.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
I don't rip on short guys. I think you're being
unfairly treated by short women like my wife and Buck's wife,
who are five. What carries five to three is five
to two. Lara's five to two. She said if I
were five eight my wife, she would have never dated
me like that.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Seems like I'm glad that she said yes when asked
for marrying me, because I found out after the fact
that I was her bare minimum height and as old as.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
She would date.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
I'm totally got in under the I snuck in. I
was just I was just tall enough to get on
the roller coaster. You know what I mean, just tall enough?
Uh yeah, rough stuff man, you know, so.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Be gonna get into on the roller coaster. When you
were just down at Universal Studios, I had the boys there.
It is an amazing experience for your kids when they're
finally tall enough to be able to ride all the
roller coasters. Do you remember that age when you were like, ah,
I'm almost there, almost there. All my boys are now
able to ride all the rides and the crushing face
when you're like just a little bit too short and
(36:56):
the guy comes by with that little stick and he's like, sorry, kid,
you can't get on the right. That's a tough parent moment.
You're gonna live through. That too.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Reminds me of the Tom Hanks movie, Big Great Movie,
which is fut.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Kind of weird, kind of weird.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
But that's a whole other conversation. Maybe not for the
night before Thanksgiving. We'll be back with Miranda Devine talking
about holding crazy judges accountable next
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in our number two Thanksgiving Eve edition,
Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We are thankful for all
of you, and we hope that you are being safe
as you travel across the country to be with your
friends and family and loved ones on Thanksgiving. We are
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joined now. But a guy that both Buck and I
are thankful is the FBI director. He is Cash Battel.
Happy Thanksgiving, Cash, and congrats on what I think most
of us would say has been a really good first year.
But I want to start with this. You know you're
doing a lot right when the Wall Street Journal and
(00:45):
the New York Times both had huge expose's on you
that basically said, yeah, this guy's working a lot, he's
traveling a lot, and he has a girlfriend. I don't
know that I've ever seen as much attention paid to
a girlfriend before, But congrats. What's it been like to
(01:05):
have Buck and I were talking about this on the
show and off air, but it feels like you kind
of cycle around where somebody is the target, and right
now the mainstream legacy media has decided you're the target.
So how's it going.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Well, first of all, it's so great to be with
you guys. Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family. I'm
stuck in DC on duty, but that's okay. That's what
the job requires and that's what we give it. You're right,
we've had a historic year. We've taken down twice as
many violent fenders as last year. Loan, he's more phentanyl
than ever before. Struck a deal with China, the shut
off fentanyl precursors arrested more than four hundred and ninety
(01:40):
percent increase in seven sixty four extremist those attempting to
and violating our children's rights. And that's just the tip
of the iceberg. This FBI is on fire, and that's
why the mainstream media is coming after you. They know
they politicize the FBI and law enforcement like never before
during Russia Gate and Arctic Frost, and they know where
sitting in the seat to expose it, and that's exactly
what they're going to do. And they're baseless attacks, baseless
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attacks against my girlfriend and me and Alexis, by the way,
is a brilliant country music star and conserve commentator in
our own rights. With the fact that the mainstream media
has decided to come after me through her is disgusting
and despicable, but it also tells us we're strong enough
to get through it, and we're over the target and
claim buck, we're not stopping. Wait till you see what
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we got coming up in another week.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Erness Well, Director Patel, we have we have a lot
of faith and you and Deputy Director Bongino and have
have kept that faith all along, as the audience knows,
because we know you guys, and we know what you
approach this job with and and why you took this
job as well, I will note to what Clay said,
It is very clear to us that like the eye
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of sourn has moved from from Secretary of War, hegseeth
you know, the New York Times going all out on
him to now the eye of sore and is on you.
But we know that you'll be you'll be finding this
in fact here quick, real quick, President Trump, there was
a story circulating a day or what the last twenty
four hours. They're all saying that you know that that
that Trump is thinking about your your replacement, and he
(03:07):
spoke to this and basically said, fat chance, fake news.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Oh he's doing a good job, Cash Metel, No, he's
doing a great job.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
I think listen to the President handles that just like
what are you even what are you even talking about?
But clearly they're trying to create dissension uh in the ranks,
so to speak, Cash, and I want you to speak
to something that we want to give more attention to
because it's so important, the federal efforts to bring down
violent crime in cities and some of the places like Memphis,
(03:40):
places like Saint Louis, Washington, d C. Can you speak
to that please and give us some of the numbers
in the stats, because the mainstream legacy media clearly doesn't
want admit they've been wrong on this one.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Absolutely, that's the mission here, protect the homeland and crush
violent crime. And President Trump authorized us to do just that.
And the FBI has been the beach ed in places
like Memphis and Saint Lewis and Miami and so many
other cities across the country. Violent crime exploded into the
bidinary administration, and the prior FBI leadership allowed it to
blossom and did nothing about it. What we did we
took a thousand agents out of Washington, DC and moved
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them into the field permanently. Every single state got a
plus up of intelligence analysts and FBI agents and they
hit the streets. And what happens when you do that.
You get thirty thousand arrests, twenty five thousand of which
of violent offenders. That's twice as many as last year alone.
And we don't even have December done yet. And in
terms of murder rate, we are chopping the murder rate
in major cities by thirty and forty percent, and that
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this alone, the homicide rate is down fifty five percent
in three months. That is an unbelievable number for the
city that has the highest per capita homicide in the
United States of America. At the FBI, I'm focused on
letting good, costly cops. Me and Deputy Director are here
to push the agents out to the field where the
work is and the fentandel seizures. We've see one hundred
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and twenty seven million lethal dose as a sentinel. That's
a thirty one percent increase alone. And we're taking the
fight to our enemies. And we're also engaging with partners
like the CCP where we can to shut off sentinel
precursors and make sure they don't devastate our young communities
around the country. And that's just a little bit of
what we're doing. We're also the most transparent agency now
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forty thousand documents turned over to Congress by this FBI
nine months. Ray did thirteen thousand in an entire seven years,
and Comy did three thousand in his entire three years.
So if there are people saying we're not transparent and
committed to oversight, just look at the evidence when.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
You I know, we're really good friends with Charlie Kirk
and one of the biggest challenges of any of these jobs.
And Buck and I were live on the air when
the shooting happened. It was obviously devastating for us and
for everybody out there listening. What can you tell us
about that investigation? Do you believe based on what you've
seen so far? And I know there's a trial coming up,
so you may have to tiptoe around it a little bit,
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do you believe that that individual acted alone? And also
do you hope, because I do, that this trial is
as public as possible so that people can see it
in all of the evidence that your agents and other
law enforcement have brought to bear. There, what Can you
tell us about that investigation in that case.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, you guys know, we're all super close with Charlie,
and you know, when you're that director of the FBI
and you're tasked with leading for the nation's manhunt for
your friend, you got to put that piece aside. And
we were able to find the perpetrator in thirty three hours.
And that's because the FBI cut videos directly from the
University value Utah security systems, publicizing for the world and
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the nation, and then we were able to apprehend this individual.
But that's just step one. Like you said, there's a trial.
And the good thing about state court, as you guys know,
is there can be cameras. On my federal court. There
are no cameras allowed ever, so I'm hoping there's a
camera in there and i want the world to see
how we put on the display of evidence. And it's
a state prosecution, so the FBI has a partner, but
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we're not the lead. But this, I think everybody at
Turning Point in Erica and everybody in Charlie's universe knows this.
FBI is committed to investigating absolutely every single lead and
that's what we're doing. On top of that. We're protecting
the integrity investigation by not disclosing information prematurely. The prosecution
must come first. Our biggest failure after this tragedy would
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be to allow this individual to walk freely because of
a mythqueue of evidentiary collection or disclosure of improper information.
I'm not going to let that happen.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
We're speaking the FBI Director Cash Pattel and Director Patel.
The audience here has been for a long time, very
very consistent on they want more transparency when it comes
to Epstein files. DOJ we know we just had this vote.
President Trump came out in favor of the Epstein Transparency Act,
(07:51):
huge votes or rather almost unanimous votes in an incentate
in the House in order to release more files.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Can you can?
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Can you speak to this because there has been among
the Trump faithful a lot of frustration with some of
the stops start on this and what feels to some
like hiding the football, like just you know what's out there,
you know what's coming out.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I wanted to give you the floor.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
To address people who support President Trump, supported the pick
of you and Deputy Director Bongino, and specifically wanted to
get to the heart of this issue. So what can
you tell everybody about that?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Absolutely, Look, we have to remind the audience that President
Trump was the one who had the audacity and compunction
and right face so to reopen the Epstein case. The
US Attorney Acosta over fifteen years ago handle this case
and basically bootstrapped any future investigation because he limited the search,
flarence and investigatory parameters and got judges to sign off
on it and agreed to a non prosecution deal and
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agree to a prohibition against the disclosure of information. Now,
once President Trump reopened that and we're now in the
second Trump administration, we committed to reviewing every single piece
of information in there for any credible leads and for
anyone out there saying, oh, we're protecting pedophiles. We have
arrested three hundred percent more pedophiles during the nine months
that I've been there for that director, and year to
(09:14):
date last year alone, we have dismantled child pedophile rings
and are crushing seven sixty four networks. So we're on it,
but we cannot violate court orders and put out information
that a federal judge is prohibited us. On top of that,
there are victims' rights where we will always protect victim's rights,
but we have been committed to work with Congress to
put out as much as we can. The Department of
Justice is beyond back to court twice now to get
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permission for us to disclose more information. And the biggest distinction,
by the way, is that there's the Epstein estate. They
have had information for years that they have refused to
turn over to law enforce and authorities. And by the way,
this FBI has been asking everybody that represents the victim,
anyone that knows anything about these alicious, alleged acts of
(09:58):
sexual deviance and violence, please come forward.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Wait, wait, can you explain this because this is how
is it that the estate, I mean, you're the FBI. Well,
I think people hear this. What do you mean that
they won't release, Like, don't they have to release?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
No, anyone's in state, it's your state, someone else's a
state unless there is a criminal violation occurring there there
is no lawful mechanism to force an a state to
surrender information. And that's the key the battle with But
what I was saying earlier is we've asked not only
the estate and everybody else who's been saying we have
information of new victims, of people on Congress holding their
(10:35):
microphone rallies and everything. Do you not many people have
come forward to this FBI with quote unquote new information. Zero,
not one person. Every time I ask, no one comes forward.
This FBI will investigate any new leaves. And we're also
committed to transparency, as they said, forty thousand pages to
Congress in just nine months alone. We're not hiding anything.
(10:55):
We're committed to max transparency while protecting victims' rights, and
we are going to a vide by whatever court orders
there are because those are the laws of the land.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
We did ask for some of our VIPs, Director Pattel,
to send in their thoughts and questions for you. One
coming in from lewis here, how is it going with
the subversives and those who are not dedicated to the
mission in the FBI and leakers who are trying to
play political games? Basically, Director Ptel, how's the cleanup of
the FBI going fantastic?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
This institution of law enforcement will be just that, there
will be no weaponization and no politicization. And those people
that have been jettison from the scrolls of the FBI
have been done so because they failed to meet the
mission standards or their ethical obligations. And so we are
going across the country and replacing anyone and removing anyone
who fails to meet our high standard here. As we've
(11:45):
done that, we're going to continue to do that. I'm
committed to that because that's what President Trump was elected for,
to make sure we end the weaponization. No more Russia Gate,
no more artic for us, no more illegal spying on
political opponents, members of Congress, and staffers, including like myself,
submitting us to countless hours of grand jury and courtroom expenditures.
We have ended that era, and anyone who participate in
(12:06):
it will be exposed and held accountable.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
What can you tell us about the Trump assassination investigation?
The first one, because unfortunately, I know there was two.
There were reports out there Tucker Carlson New York posts saying, hey,
this guy had substantial actions online, that he was potentially
trans influenced. I mean a furry, I mean, this is crazy.
(12:30):
I mean I'm curious whether you think there is when
you look at Minneapolis, when you look at Nashville, when
you look at the allegations of Utah, and maybe the
allegations of this Trump shooter is trans violence being under investigated.
But what can you tell us about the investigation of
that first Trump shooter, potential trans connections anybody else? Do
you believe the acted alone? What does the evidence show?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
We follow the evidence and that's it. And we've brief
present Trump the entire way, and he's been fully satisfied
with our investigatory steps. We got into this FBI, the
prior FBI, for whatever mistakes they made and for whatever
information they didn't release, we've released everything we possibly can,
and we've told the public we see every device, got
into every device of the assailants, got into all of
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his social media, all of his email accounts, and we've
publicized that information. And if there was any investigatory lead
that actually led to anyone else, we will one hundred
percent take it. But again it goes back to credible information.
If you post something on social media and someone comments
on it and that's not a connection necessarily, that's not
necessarily credible. It's like going on x and following a
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million comments from the client Buck Show. But we look
at every single one of them. Will we will not
leave any stone unturned, and that's what we did here.
We redoubled our efforts and we will continue to take
any new information that develops.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
You started with us saying next couple of weeks, we
got some things coming again. Buck and I are excited.
You're there. We're excited. Dan Bongino's there. We think you
guys have done a fantastic job. What kind of prediction
can you give us as we move into December? What
should people be paying attention to in your mind? What
would you like them to know?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
More accountability on high profile cases that's coming for sure.
We're going to disclose. This is the battle rhythm. We
said here for the first time ever at the FBI,
we are simultaneously disclosing the Congress while simultaneously investigating. That's
never been done before. You've seen the stonewalling from prior administrations,
and we're not doing that. But we are not going
to cripple an investigation before we get to the end points.
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You're going to see that. You're also going to see
things like historic reduction and murder rates across the country
by double digits. We'll put those numbers out in December.
That is a massive victory for the American people brought
to you by the Trump administration and this FBI, and
we're about to bring some arrests for high profile cases,
and we'll just again, we will let the indictments and
the public prosecution speak to our efforts. Those that say
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we know van and I never say, sit here and
trust us. Look at the body of work that this
FBA is done. And when you look at them, mainstream
media's attack. If we're so failing, if we're so bad,
how is it that we have record historic arrests and
record amounts of safety for the American people, record drug seizures,
record narcotics arrests, record arrests of stopping terrorism attacks like
we did in Michigan. And the mainstream media came in
(15:17):
after us for that as well. If we followed them,
they would have allowed us to arrest the individuals after
they killed Americas. This FBI is not failing.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
You had a recent press conference where you announced the
arrest of Chauncey billups of NBA prominent players, Damon Jones
also MLB. Do you think that investigation is complete or
their potential other individuals that could be charged related to
those incidents.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
That investigation is ongoing.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
All right, FBI Director Patel, thank you so much for
making the time for us. Thanks for all the work
you're putting in over there. You have our best the
Deputy Director Bongino. You know we're thinking about him too.
Happy Thanksgiving to you and to all the men and
women of the FBI who are doing it the right
way and getting the job done.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Thank you, Thank you guys. Happy Thanksgiving. Appreciate your wonderful audience.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Appreciate you.
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Speaker 1 (19:35):
A lot of reaction pouring in are thanks to FBI
director Cash Bettel for joining us on the Wednesday before Thanksgiving.
I think we hit him with everything that is out
there under the sun right now. You guys can react,
by the way, eight hundred and two two two eight
a two, whether it's Charlie Kirk assassination, I think that's
a big take. And I don't know that we spent
(19:55):
a lot of time talking about this Buck that one
hundred percent has to be televised. There are way too
many conspiracy theories out there if you don't allow everything
to be seen publicly. And I appreciate Cash Ptel coming
on and saying, yes, we want it to be public.
Sometimes you can't put trials on television. And I know
(20:17):
that there are issues sometimes with trials being on television
and lawyers mugging for the cameras and all those things.
I understand it, trust me, But I think the benefit
to being able to see it for yourself as opposed
to someone else reporting to you what occurred, is invaluable.
And there are and Bucky, you have seen them. I've
(20:40):
seen them. Every single person listening to us right now
has seen crazy conspiracy theories taking off. Relating to the
Charlie Kirk assassination, Erica Kirk, his widow, has said, I
want the trial public to me, she should get to decide.
And again, in state courts, in certain court rooms they
(21:01):
allow you to put the case on television. Certainly the
most famous case on television of all time was OJ
but it's a Utah case. In a Utah state court,
they allow televising there. If the judge will allow it,
I would say, please do this, please, please please. I
think it's the right call Erica Kirk wants it. The
FBI director wants it. Shine the light on everything and
(21:25):
let this story and the prosecution fully be covered. I
bet you're signing on as well. We haven't even asked
about this, but you agree.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Yeah, of course you want you want absolutely maximum transparency.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
That was interesting to me.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
That that's why I asked Director Patel about it. I mean,
I've known him as Cash for years, but he is
the director. So I'm trying to you know, I'm still
trying to get used to Pete as Secretary of War.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Secretary of Defense, sure, but secretary of war. I gotta
do it.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Two for one, not call him Pete because he's running
the Pentagon, and two secretary of War, not Defense. But yes,
Cash Pattel was with us just now, but I asked
him about the estate. I understand what he's saying is, well,
unless there's a criminal predicate to take or unless there's
like a criminal investigatory basis for those files, But wouldn't
(22:11):
there easily be I still am a little bit confused
as to how the estate can hold. There must be
some procedural thing. I mean, he addressed it, but I'm
not a lawyer, so lawyer, Clay, I am, I am,
and I don't understand, but to trust me. I took
wills and estates twenty some odd years ago. Thankfully, I
have not been involved in probate in any kind of
(22:32):
professional way. Here's what I do know about that case, Buck,
and I do think this is important. My understanding is
that Will went through probate in the US Virgin Islands.
I'm actually a licensed attorney in the US Virgin Island.
That's a that's a real cocktail party trivia thing. There
are not very many of us. I'm licensed in the
US Virgin Islands and in Tennessee. I took the bar
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exam back to back years. I practiced law in the
US Virgin Islands. I know that the probate for his
occount and this is the part of this the Epstein case.
I understand everybody focused on the victims.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Victims have been paid hundreds of millions of dollars in
civil payout from the estate. To me, the most interesting
part of the Epstein case at this point in time,
that is rarely discussed and we still don't know, and
you and I have talked about it some on this
per money. How in the world was his estate seven
hundred million money.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
That's you know, him being a guy who was clever
and around rich people and building in a state of
seven or even seventy million dollars. I would say, okay,
I mean I still think it was fishy, but seven
hundred million, no way. Sorry, there's no way you did
this without doing things. Or rather, when I say did
(23:46):
this the money came from somewhere, we need to know
where the money came from. It did not come from
completely separate from his sex crimes. Okay, I'm saying it
did not come separate from that from him being good
at tax advice.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
It did not.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
That is not a That is not a credible or
applausible explanation his estate.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I wanted to make sure I got it right, so
I just looked it up. Was I said, seven hundred apologies,
six hundred million, okay, okay, yeah, but Buck, when I
talked to rich guys and they you know, the Epstein
case comes up, and they're like, hey, what do you
think was going to rich guys? Every rich guy that
is really rich I'm talking about like super rich guys.
They're like, there's no way that he ended up with
(24:29):
six hundred million dollars without creating a company, without building something.
I mean again, to your point, you could end up
worth twenty million dollars, thirty million dollars as a financial
advisor for people. The guy never had some sort of
like a private equity fund. He was never a hedge
(24:50):
fund guy. He was just a tax advice guy. There's
no way that he ends up worth six hundred million
dollars given tax advice.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Like my tax advice guy's great, but he drives a Volvo.
You know, let's be you know, your shaded Volvos.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
But no tax advice guy is driving a Lamborghini. You
might want to be like, I mean, what kind of
tax advice is he giving? Right, if he has an
eighty million dollar townhouse.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
I was gonna say, maybe he has a Lamborghini. He's
really good at it, but he has a private island
and a private jet. I'd be like, I want to
be the tax advice man in eighty millions. To your point,
one of the most expensive homes in all of Manhattan.
It doesn't add up. Okay, it does not at a
full stop. And that's the part of this that I'm
still I think we may get more of that transparency
from the release.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Uh, but you know, we'll see We're going to stay
on this.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
There will be more information to talk about. Just to
be clear, there will be more documents and more things
and more revelations from the state is happening. So it's happening.
We can't tell you what's in those files until they're
released and once you know, if we knew, we would
tell you, but we don't. And once that happens, we'll
dive back into that. But I will say that the
people who were very frustrated initially with the guys trust us.
(26:01):
There's nothing else that you need to see in there.
They were right, and Trump has admitted that they were right.
And now they'll be more released and we'll see what's released.
Now will that be enough?
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Clay?
Speaker 3 (26:11):
And this even goes to the televising of the Charlie
Kirk assassination trial. There will be people for whom there
is no such thing as enough transparency. But we have
to push it to the point where all reasonable people
can see that.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Right.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
There will be people who say, no.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Stuff is and I want to be if someone wants
to say they don't have all the answers, but they
believe that there is stuff that has been removed from
the files. Fine, if people who claim to have the
answers because of things that aren't in evidence, that's where
I think it goes too far. Like you have to
have the proof to tell me that you know. If
(26:46):
you still have more questions, that's fine. But if you
think you have the answer that nobody else does and
it's a big it's a big conclusion you're coming to.
There have to be facts in evidence here.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
This is why to me, the money is the story,
because you can trace money if you really commit to it. Right,
six hundred million dollars is tough to move around. It
is tough to end up with legally, we know that
he had that as an estate, and so banking secrecy
is not really a thing anymore the way it was
because to turn over every ten thousand dollars transaction, which
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is not that much, especially with inflation now, I mean
a lot of people, you know, ten thousand dollars is
we're talking hundreds of millions of dollars, Like you should
be able to trace and track where that came from
in some way, and.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
People can try to hide their money. And I'm trying
to think of some of the Islands. I mean it's
really Cayman Islands. Switzerland obviously no.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
No, Switzerland, they're actually to catch gone now they started
to catch people, but that's no. But they turn it
over right switt Switzerland. Switzerland used to be.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
There was a guy I forget that, I forget the
details of the story some of you will know, but
there was someone on the banking side who basically released
all the like files of all the Americans who were
stashing money there. And ever since then with Switzerland has
just been Yep, we're not We're not doing that hiding
your money thing anymore. People are America is gonna know
the Caymans. There's a little off the cook.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Islands, I think is what I'm talking.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Cayman Islands is is like considerable place in terms of
population everything else.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
The number of businesses that are based in the in
the Cayman I think there's a population of one hundred
thousand and there's something like millions of businesses that are
based in the Cayman Islands. The banks, uh they are
so yes, it is still a place where lots of
money can can be You're right by.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
The way, it's it's people still try in Switzerland. But
I wouldn't you know, if if I were a bad
guy trying to hide money, I'd be very worried about that. Uh, Luxembourg,
Hong Kong, good luck with that. CCP can just be like,
you know what, it's our money now. Yeah, I was
speaking to I was speaking to a Chinese. Uh it
was it was at a social event, a Chinese businessman
(28:55):
recently Clay. They just held them in print. He's Chinese.
He would held in prison by the CCP as extortion
and it was like a local guy who was connected,
who knew he could do it, and he had to
pay millions of dollars to get himself out of prison.
And they were just like, yeah, we're gonna keep you
here until you go crazy or give us the money
we want. So how do your money? They've done to
(29:16):
Jimmy Lai. I mean, it's a story that should get
more attention. I would like to see Trump be able
to get him out. If you haven't studied that from
a free speech perspective. I had dinner with Jimmy Lai's
right hand man when I was in Taiwan and spoke
about this with him at length, and he's very you know,
he look, he knows that Trump wants to and but
there needs to be more attention on this. This guy's
been in prison for seven years for running a newspaper
(29:39):
and it's a total sellout of the two systems one
country thing in Hong Kong. But Jimmy Lai, the guy's
in his seventies, he's not in good health. He's being
held in a CCP dungeon essentially for running a newspaper
that just wasn't under the control of the CCP, and
some of them got ticked off at him. And anyway, I
bring it up because Hong Kong good luck. You're right
about the Caymans, by the way, so they still have
(30:00):
pretty decent banking secrecy, uh there, but there are very
few places. Yeah, the say shells, you know, it starts
to get.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
I think the British Virgin Islands still has a little
bit of h but they're under the British flag. But yeah,
the Caymans is the place that you would want to
go if you're trying to hide things. I think now
in you're I was right about the cook Islands, by
the way.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
I don't even know they're in like the South Pacific right,
I don't even know where the Cook Islands are.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
That's real.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
That's that's like elite level geography knowledge of the Cook Islands.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
You got to look that one up. By the way, Uh,
we'll come back to some of this, We'll take some
of your calls. I think we hit everything. Appreciate Cash
Betel coming on with this. Miranda Divine is going to
be on with this top of the next hour.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
I did think he kind of teased that there's more
coming before the end of the year. Yeah, which will
be interesting. And I thought when he said, for those
of you out there who saw the big press conference
and the arrest of Chauncey Billups and Damon Jones, the
NBA the mafia case, that investigation is ongoing, other people
getting wrapped up in that could turn into a a
(31:00):
real mess. So we'll see. By the way, we haven't
talked about this too. Maybe in the third hour we
can get into it a little bit. I want to
get your take on what's going to happen with Venezuela
and what should happen, because it seems like that's getting
closer and closer to a pressure point officially being reached
in some way and I've got to take on that.
Here you go, Buck, this is gonna win. I feel
(31:21):
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Speaker 3 (32:55):
I think we had said we were gonna do this, right, guys,
So I'm now just putting on the spot on the
air with lots and lots of people listening. Can we
take recommendations for Christmas music this year? We're gonna do that, right,
We can do that. So we're gonna make this a
little bit of a of a crowd sourcing, but you
are our crowd and we love you. You can send
in on your VIPs, your talkbacks. If you have specific
(33:17):
Christmas music suggestions, you can send them to us and
we'll put together a compilation and we'll start We'll have
some great Christmas stuff. I just think that's fun, Clay.
I'm getting in the Christmas spirit even though it's a
day before Thanksgiving, because I think these holidays are really
all one holiday season and I'm moved by the holiday spirit.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Well, that is very anti Grinch of you. I will
also point out you now have he's too young to
really be into Santa Claus. Next year he'll be what
about a year and seven months, he'll have some cognition
of it. And then when you get to about two
and a half, when you have young kids that are
really excited about Santa and the holiday season, it is
(33:57):
awesome as a parent to get to go back and
you live your young childhood Christmases. And I think there's
a lot of people out there with young kids, young
grand kids who know exactly what I'm talking about. Their
eyes and the magic with which it is reflected and
you are able to nostalgically remember it yourself but also
see it through their eyes is an incredible experience. And
(34:20):
so you're about to get to have fun with it.
You're in New York, which, yes they have a Communist
but they also have great decorations.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
They don't have a community yet, to be fair. He
takes over January first. It's Eric.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
I'm in eric Adamstown still so but it is for
people who have never been to New York City. The trees,
the Christmas festivity of New York City is very very
well done, very different compared to you in Miami, where
it's eighty degrees and Santa's got a shorts on. I'm
not going to lie.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
We got off the plane yesterday and it was absolutely
like driving rain and fifty degrees and I look at
my wife, I was like, I'm so glad we left
eighty degrees with a light breeze and perfectly honey to
be here. But it's okay because we're with our family
and that's what matters, not perfect weather, no state income tax,
and the ability to buy all the guns I want.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
All right.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
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Speaker 1 (35:20):
I don't like him, Okay, I do, Louis. I'm gonna
come out on the top you. You and Lewis. I mean,
we might agree on a lot of other things, but
if you're a seat recliner, I'm just gonna be like,
I'm not gonna just pretend that this is not an issue,
and I think we have what did lewis? Is he
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five foot five man. I am in the seat in
front of you on a plane. I am reclining you
rip on short men and tell us the reason I
had women problems when I was younger is my height.
The only way I can get back at you tall guys,
ha ha, love your show.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
I don't rip on short guys. I think you're being
unfairly treated by short women like my wife and Buck's wife,
who are five. What carries five to three is five
to two. Lara's five to two. She said if I
were five eight my wife, she would have never dated
me like that.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Seems like I'm glad that she said yes when asked
for marrying me, because I found out after the fact
that I was her bare minimum height and as old as.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
She would date.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
I'm totally got in under the I snuck in. I
was just I was just tall enough to get on
the roller coaster. You know what I mean, just tall enough?
Uh yeah, rough stuff man, you know, so.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Be gonna get into on the roller coaster. When you
were just down at Universal Studios, I had the boys there.
It is an amazing experience for your kids when they're
finally tall enough to be able to ride all the
roller coasters. Do you remember that age when you were like, ah,
I'm almost there, almost there. All my boys are now
able to ride all the rides and the crushing face
when you're like just a little bit too short and
(36:56):
the guy comes by with that little stick and he's like, sorry, kid,
you can't get on the right. That's a tough parent moment.
You're gonna live through. That too.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Reminds me of the Tom Hanks movie, Big Great Movie,
which is fut.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Kind of weird, kind of weird.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
But that's a whole other conversation. Maybe not for the
night before Thanksgiving. We'll be back with Miranda Devine talking
about holding crazy judges accountable next
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.