February 3, 2025 • 36 mins
We're experiencing the onslaught of sanity. Secretary of State Marco Rubio on USAID. Government speed vs. business speed. Social media vs. legacy media. Investigative journalist Julie Kelly on the FBI purge. The audience weighs in on Beyonce winning best country album.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hour two, Clay and Buck kicks off.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Now Trump and Elon's onslaught of sanity continues, grows, expands.
It's an amazing thing that we are witnessing. My friends,
enjoy it, drink it all in. After all the years
where we were in the cultural and political wilderness, and
(00:23):
I'm not just talking about the four years of Biden.
You think back to eight years of Obama and what
they were able to do to sabotage Trump in the
first term and of course in the twenty twenty election.
To where we are now is an incredible story arc.
It is a narrative that you wouldn't believe unless the
world was experiencing it right, unless it was actually happening.
(00:46):
And it just continues every time, every time I refresh
my ex feed. Trump just assigned an executive order to
establish a sovereign wealth Fund. He's just moving at breakneck speed.
And you know, the implications for this, I might add,
are so profound, beyond even and we're going to dive
into some of the specific policies here in a second.
(01:07):
But Clay, just that the it's the government. It can't
be fixed. This is how it does what it does.
Just accept it. That mentality is under assault now in
a way that I don't even think a lot of
the American people. I don't know if any American people
really until Trump came along, thought it was possible.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
And that brings me to a few things here.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
One is Elon Musk sharing on his platforms time to confess.
Media reports saying that Doge has some of the world's
best software engineers are in fact true.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
He's just trolling everybody.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
They have access now, people who are better at the
Internet and just understanding how the architecture of the you know,
electronic world we live in functions Clay. They've got access
to the Treasury Department's payment portal and they're going through
everything and they're looking to see apparently they weren't even
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paying attention to what kind of fraud they were paying
out before.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I mean, this is such a sea change.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
And now on the USAID front, which the office, the
main office in DC is shut down today and people
are being told to work from home pursuing too. I
would assume some major changes going in the governments in
that government structure. But Marco Rubio had this to say
about Yeah, USAID, it's kind of a crappy place, listen
(02:32):
to it.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yeah, there are things that USAID that we do through
the USAID that we should continue to do, and we
will continue to do. But everything they do has to
be in alignment with the national interest in the foreign
policy in the United States. And the attitude that USAID
has adopted over the years is no, we are independent
of the national interest. We fund programs irrespective of whether
it's aligned or not aligned with the foreign policy.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
That's ridiculous. He's a taxpayer dollars.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Every penny that we spend in fore and eight needs
to be fans and aligned with the national interest and
the foreign policy of the United States. So this is
not about ending the programs that USAID does per se.
There are things that it does that are good, and
there are things that it does that we have strong
questions about. It's about the way it operates as an industry,
and they're supposed to take directions from the State Department
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of Policy, directions they do not.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
See Clay.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
This is the critical point that Secretary Rubio is making.
It is about bringing these government institutions that are in
the executive purview, in the exec under the executive branch,
bringing them to heal so that they understand they are
not their own thing, that get to just exist and
make their own decisions about the future of this country
(03:41):
with taxpayer dollars. I think the big picture that we're
seeing here so far is, you know, we've talked buck
about how Democrats don't seem to be able to respond.
Front page story in the New York Times saying like,
what did Democrats stand for? What of the issues they
have is Democrats are very good at being told what
(04:04):
to do and march in lockstep right. They are sort
of a monive mine. Anyways, high mind you if somebody
speaks and they all go out and they repeat the
talking points, and what's interesting is that is a very
government based way of thinking because it's top down, but
(04:24):
it relies on sort of everybody moving in concert. I
don't know if we have the cut of Chuck Schumer
talking about how beer prices he's trying to connect with
people talking about the Super Bowl, and he's like, your
prices on beer are going to go up, and the
avocados that you use to make guacamole, those costs are
going to go up as well. The problem that you're
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seeing happen here is and I thought about it as
I was reading all my morning papers and expecting that
we were going to get a resolution. Is they all
think catastrophe is coming, and then Trump is negotiating, and
before the catastrophe is coming, he's getting a better deal
and we're stepping back often from the edge. They don't
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have the ability buck to respond because they're moving at
government speed and Trump is moving at business speed. And
then you combine it with social media, which moves faster
than any legacy media can move. And so by the
time a story gets to people, it's old news.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
It happened with.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Columbia, like you scrolled through your phone and they're like,
oh my goodness, it's Valentine's Day coming up soon, and
do you know how much more your roses are gonna cost?
Do you know how much more your blueberry smoothies are
gonna cost? Your coffee? And then Columbia relents, and all
their talking points just look ridiculous. They're too slow to react,
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and by the time they react, what they're reacting to
doesn't exist anymore. It's like, you remember a war, Every
war is fought. You're a military history guy like I am,
Every war is faught. What with the technology of the
previous war. Democrats are fighting Trump with the technology of
a pre existing war, and Trump has changed the rules
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of the game and they aren't able to meet him
in intellectual combat as a result. Well, I think there's
been an equalizing of the armaments in this ideological war
that can be brought to bear on both sides. Right, So, yes,
they they have a playbook that's we have media dominant,
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social media dominance, so we can just hammer the message
and do whatever we want. And that's not working. The
New York I cut this out. I thought we'd do
a whole segment on it, but you mentioned it, so
I'll just give the headline New York Times quote, we
have no coherent message. Democrats struggle to oppose Trump. More
than fifty interviews with Democratic leaders reveal the parties struggling
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to decide what it believes in, what issues to prioritize,
and how to confront an aggressive right wing administration. Can
I just point out we have been saying this since
Trump's victory. Our assessment of the other side on this
show has been it's like crickets chirping, they got nothing,
And this.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Isn't right wing talk.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Radio or no, no, that is an accurate assessment. Democrats
are telling that to the New York Times. Okay, the
trust me. The New York Times can get fifty high
level former Biden staffers and Kamala campaign people and whatever
to sit and talk to them, and they're all saying
the same thing, which is, what are we supposed to
do here? Because they had built their whole future on
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the destruction of Trump? And what do they have, Clay,
not just the rise of Trump, but really it's like
super Trump. It's like Gandolf the White when he comes
back after fighting the ball rog.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Like we're in a whole new era.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
To be honest, Buck, a part of me wonders, what
is Trump gonna have left to do? I mean, in
all sincerity, he's moving so fast to do so much
right now. And I give him credit because we talked
about he may only have a year or eighteen months
before everything bogs down again. Congress, this is where it's
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really can he get the narrow majority he has, especially
on spending and with reconciliation? And so here's what I see.
Cause your point about the executive orders, Yeah, I don't
think we're going to wake up in July, and we're
going to have amazing executive orders flying from the White House,
not because of anything other than I think a lot
of the smart stuff that they've thought about they've been
(08:30):
putting into action. So your point on that well taken,
I agree. I think this is creating a reservoir of
political capital for Trump within I mean, not that he
really needs anymore, but to degree that that's a thing
within the Republican Party. And I also think it's creating
a sense of urgency within the GOP that you either
get on board or we really are paying attention. We
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know that change can happen, and if you're going to
try to stand to thwart this, to protect the old ways,
so to speak, of the GOP establishment, you're gonna get
steamrolled by MAGA in a big way. I don't think
there's any doubt.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Now.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
What I will expect is there will be some Democrat senators,
governors for sure, and probably congress people as well that
are going to do everything they can to try to basically,
using your metaphor there, throw themselves across the train tracks
to try to stall what is coming. But I think
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in general, the challenge they have is whatever they're responding
to is often already passed, and whatever calamity they claim
is going to occur doesn't materialize. And guys, if we
can grab that footage of Chuck Schumer coming out and
talking about how beer comes from Mexico and do we
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have that cut twenty nine? Here is this, Buck? I
think it kind of illustrates what I'm talking about, just
a fundamental inability to respond. The dynamics of the changed
so quickly that whatever they say publicly is outdated almost immediately.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Listen to this.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Let's just take Super Bowl Sunday. Okay, it's going to
affect beer. Okay, most of it Corona here comes from Mexico.
It's going to affect your gloc because what is guacamole
made of avocados both from Mexico.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Okay, as awkward as this is, they're like, hey, politician
who does not know what normal people are like, We're
going to give you a beer, and we're going to
give you an avocado, and we're going to have you
argue that Super Bowl Sunday is going to be an impact.
And first of all, Buck, most beer doesn't come from Mexico.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
You can buy. In fact, you can.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Buy virtually all your beer in the United States born
and brot. That's one of the best things that America
does is create a bevy of beer. I'm not a
beer drinker for obvious reasons, but I used to be,
and I could tell you if Corona was so great,
you wouldn't have to drop a line in it.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I'm just saying. And then on.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
The notion that your avocado is going to get so
much more expensive and all this stuff, Okay, first of all,
not true to your points, not even what's happening. But
let's just unpack this for a second. Trump is trying
to get the necessary assistance from Mexico so that we
don't have a wide open border with ten million illegals
piling in. Whatever the number is, guys, Okay, don't you know,
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maybe it's fifteen million.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Who cares.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Point is ten million plus illegals piling in every four years,
one hundred thousand people dying every year of fentonl overdoses
or something close to it, cartel activity, human smuggling, all
of this stuff.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
You know, if we can get help on that, and
it means our avocado's are a little more expensive. The
American people are actually okay with that. You know, this
is the part of the Democrats don't seem to understand
Trump is using leverage for more important goals. He's not
just you know, lightened mounds of avocados on fire in spite.
He's trying to get foreign partners to actually be partners.
(11:59):
And turn turns out some of them are realizing there
is a new sheriff in town.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
But their response is we're gonna have Chuck Schumer show
up and hold on avocado. And back to the optics
of it, they're absurd. They're absurd. But if it is
where they are and they're so far behind, it's important.
Who's a better symbol for the Democrats right now than
Chuck Schumer? Who's more effective? I'm not saying Chuck Schumer
is effective.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Who's better? I don't think they do?
Speaker 6 (12:27):
You.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I mean, really, do you think they have one right now?
Aoc would get laughed at. I think it's funny. I
think Fetterman because at least him holding up a beer
and I don't think he would do it. But he's
way too nice to Republicans for the Democrat basis right.
I totally get that. And he's also wrong on Israel
from their perspective. I'm just saying, who could hold up
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an avocado and a beer talking about their Super Bowl
party and me not think they look ridiculous? At least
I think Fetterman's going to probably have a beer in
some avocado at his super Bowl party. I don't think
that Chuck Schumer is going to watch the super Bowl
other than to be like, oh, this is what you
know the humans are doing, right Like So, one of
the things that is so amazing about all of this
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is the whole Trump era. Trump, a multi billionaire from Manhattan,
is somehow more normal than all of these other politicians
who have none of his wealth advantages or upbringing.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
How is that even possible?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Like how is Trump better at connecting with normal people
from his Trump Tower, you know suite?
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Then most of these politicians.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Who grew up in otherwise quote unquote normal circumstances that
most Americans at least could connect with.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
It's kind of remarkable.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
And you know who's not particularly normal These USAID employees
who are all going to be standing outside their office
sad face on if they try to show up.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
They're like, wait, we have jobs forever. The department is here, forever.
Turns out a lot.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
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Having a fantastic Monday as we are powering through the
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lot of what's going on in the tariff battles, the
ongoing outcome of the government being put through the ringer
by basic business dynamics. Having said all of that, did
(16:15):
you see, in much less serious news that Beyonce won
the Country Music Album of the Year last night? Did
you see this come across your your feed?
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I came across my feed, along with text messages from
random friends of mine who I haven't even heard from
a while, being like.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Hey, what is Clay things going to happen in the
super Bowl that I'm like, I'll ask him right away.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
I'm right on it. I'll get you the Clay answered.
Ask me any questions. You will give me a list
of ten questions for Clay from the super Bowl. A
kid who went to high school with me. Anyway, but yes,
I saw, I saw that that happened. Let me ask
you this and we can have some fun with this
a little bit more. Maybe Beyonce. First of all, this album,
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I'm not we all know, am the world's foremost proponent
of the flute, but I am basically tone deaf, so
I will acknowledge my musical knowledge very low on the
musical spectrum. But Beyonce's country music album according to everyone
I trust who has ever heard country music, is absolutely atrocious.
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Not only won Best Country Album, she won Album of
the Year. It wasn't even nominated by country music artists
as a song or album of the year.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
What is this the equivalent of, like?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Who is this like winning a championship or being awarded something?
I'm curious out there in the audience. It seems to
me the personification of DEI itself, which is designed to
just provoke woke outrage by giving us ridiculous results. I
actually think it's symptomatic of Democrats still not learning their
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Speaker 1 (17:58):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
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to clay An Buck. We haven't really gotten into this
yet because there's been so much big stuff happening. But
(19:05):
it turns out that the deep state is not so
comfortable over at the FBI anymore. In fact, there have
been some senior level resignations, people being pushed out looking
for more about who was involved in j six. Julie
Kelly joins US now. She is the author on sub
Stack of Declassified with Julie Kelly, and I highly recommend
(19:29):
you see what she is writing these days. Julie, bring
us up to speak, because you know these aren't just
random names and news stories. You've been following some of
these characters at the FBI and what they've done to
j six people you know at the senior level in particular.
But bring us into the shock waves that have MSNBC
putting former FBI people on the TV to tell us
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that fascism is here.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
What's going on?
Speaker 8 (19:54):
Right?
Speaker 9 (19:54):
So, we know about the purge at the DOJ of
some top officials who were involved in this ongoing law
there against President Trump. Some of them were reassigned to
an immigration enforcement unit, and at least one of them
resigned because he really doesn't want to get his fingernails dirty.
He'd rather be doing the dirty work of the Democratic Party.
Those days, of course, are over. We also know that
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several assistant US attorneys in the DCUs Attorney's Office, the
office that has been handling or was handling the January
sixth investigation of prosecution, they also have been terminated. But
now we're focused on this purge at the FBI. Several
top officials, including the deputy director at the Washington Field office.
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It looks like the head of the Las Vegas Field
office and a few more have been retired, resigned, let go.
We're not really sure what the circumstances how they went
about that. But what's really interesting when I'm keeping an
eye on today, you guys, is this questionnaire that was
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sent out over the weekend or maybe it was Friday,
to every employee asking them to account for their involvement
in the J six prosecution and investigation. Now we know,
because Chris Ray used to brag about every single one
of the fifty six FBI field offices were involved in
(21:22):
that investigation prosecution. What the acting FBI director has been
asked to do, and it appears, when we can talk
about him as well, that he is being somewhat defiant
in executing this order and this questionnaire to all of
these employees asking them what they did or they witnesses
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at trials? Did they surveil Americans? Were they handling search warrants?
Were they handling these armed raids? That questionnaire is due
back this afternoon and then we will see from there
what the acting DOJ officials want to do with that
hold off and tell Pamboni is confirmed, or take some
immediate action.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Julie, is there anything Trump hasn't done yet that you
think he should done? Should do your way out in
front on part in all the jan six ers, he
did that. The blowback has been almost non existent. I
think partly that's because of how absolutely indefensible many of
the pardons that Biden gave on his way out were.
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But you won that battle. It has been transformative, I
think for many people out there had to deal with
those prosecutions. What's on your checklist that Trump hasn't done yet?
And can you believe what he's already done in basically
fourteen days.
Speaker 8 (22:44):
No, I can't.
Speaker 9 (22:45):
I mean, I think I said the other day, this
is something that I used to like dream about, is
that these prosecutors would feel the same sort of pain
that they've inflicted on j six ers. Now certainly all
of the FBI agents who were involved as well. So yes,
I mean, this is stunning. And again kudo's to President Trump,
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the acting Attorney General James McHenry, the acting Deputy Attorney
General A. Mil Bove, who will remain in the Department
of Justice after Pambondi, and the permanent Deputy Attorney General
Todd Lanche is confirmed. So this has exceeded my wildest dreams,
and they really were wild dreams because I thought these
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people are never going to be held accountable for what
they're doing.
Speaker 8 (23:30):
But a few things.
Speaker 9 (23:31):
I really hope that the President considers pardoning the rest
of the people. Those fourteen individuals whose sentences were commuted,
a few of them Thomas Caldwell for example, and I
hope you guys have him on your show. He wasn't
sentenced to prison, he was not a member of the oathkeepers.
He had one charge left against him at the end
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of the day, and that was tampering with documents because
he got rid of his Facebook account, believe it or not,
and that was even vacated by the judge. So I
really would like to see the President consider pardoning those
individuals as well. Also, we have the whit Murph fed
napping hoax. We have two men in super max prisons
being tortured. I mean they are with the country's most
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hardened repeat offender, serious criminals, serious terrorists, and of course
those men also in trap by the FBI. I would
like to see his DJ, if not part in those
two individuals, but launch an investigation into what happened there. So,
but I'm not complaining because this is, as I said,
a far better start than any of us could have
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dreamed of.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
What do you think comes next? Is this all, Julia?
I know you've been following this so closely. Is this
going to just get tangled up in the courts really fast?
Because really, at the heart of this, it seems to
me that there is this belief that if you work
for the federal government you just can't be fired. I mean,
you know that you get to just do what you
do and nothing ever happens. And then when you have
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a president who comes in and with presidential power and
with his appointees and saying no, I'm sorry, there is
going to be accountability. What would it mean if the
courts overturned this and said, no, sorry, you actually can't
fire these FBI? Did you see what I mean? What
do you think happens next? And what are the implications
of it?
Speaker 8 (25:19):
Right?
Speaker 9 (25:19):
So, this very well could end up in the courts.
You had normalize in our favorite lawfare architect and Mark
zaid send a letter to the Department of Justice yesterday
warning that you'll love this. You will love this, that
the due process and constitutional rights of these prosecutors and
FBI agents are being violated, that they are going to
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be subject to doxing and harassment because they are being
exposed for what they've done, especially in the J six investigation,
and that these lawyers will pursue some sort of legal
means to defend these government employees from getting the acts.
So it could end up in the courts. The problem
is it will probably end up in the DC courts
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before the very same judges who have put their informater
on every aspect of this law fair from President Trump
down to some of his associates and associates that of
course almost one thousand and six hundred JA six defendants.
Speaker 8 (26:18):
So I figured this.
Speaker 9 (26:19):
Will be a battle, but you know there's going to
be risk involved for that side as well, and that
is arguing why they should have been fired and what
they did, whether it was top DOJ officials or you know,
an FBI case agent out of a field office in
Nevada or in Texas. So this full accounting is going
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to be very eye opening, and I think that they're
kind of setting the table for Pamboby and Cash Pattel
to take this information that they have and then decide
how they want to pursue their own investigations or inquiries
into the DOJ and FBI.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
This is all very important, and you've done tremendous work,
as has Trump. How impressed Be honest, Julie, are you
with my unbelievable recovery from the flu and also the
fact that I have barely talked about it at all.
Speaker 9 (27:12):
I just I just want to give thanks to God
for sparing you from the sniffles. I mean it's really
sounded touch and go. And now we have to send
prayers out to Jesse.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Kelly, I know you're weighing in.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Jesse's entire family is about to go down with the flu.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
And I was very brave.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I stayed in bed, I watched twelve hours of college basketball,
and I frankly think it was a heroic battle.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I was fighting.
Speaker 10 (27:39):
Well.
Speaker 9 (27:40):
I painted save Clay on the water tower outside my house,
and now I'm going to have to go change it
save Jesse because and who knows who's next.
Speaker 8 (27:50):
I mean, this is this is quite quite the cult.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
The men in America are under siege.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
I mean, we just don't talk about our health as
often as we should, but we're really all very steadfast troopers,
and Julie just you know, you may think it's ai
that Fauci visited Clay with a special check in to
make sure he got his fourteenth booster, but there are
some people out there who don't accept that explanation and
think that really it was just surveillance footage the Fauci
(28:18):
meme that.
Speaker 8 (28:19):
Really showed up we would have a far different.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Outcome for Clay, So that's very true.
Speaker 8 (28:25):
I'm glad that's not real.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Julie, you continue to dominate. We appreciate you taking the
time to come on. And also I want to give
producer Greg a shout out because it was his creation
of that Fauci meme that as I was deliriously rolling
over in a fever, wasn't sure if I was going
to make it or not. That was the thing that
was on my phone. So I appreciate Greg. Julie, I
(28:50):
expect that when you get the flu, you'll also be
doing eight other jobs at the same time as most
women do.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
But we we appreciate you.
Speaker 8 (28:58):
All right, guys, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Thank you, But do you that's Julie Kelly who does
fabulous work. Do you buy into the fact, as women
like to argue that all men when they get sick,
are complete and total horses. Is this a unfair attack
on masculinity or do you think we're more of hooses
when we get sick than women are. I just think
that my view on this is that men, particularly when
(29:25):
they're sick, they want that feminine nurturing from the misses,
and so they ham it up a little bit, you know,
a little.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Bit like, oh, I don't know if I'm ever gonna
be here the same again. Can you bring me some
chicken noodle soup, honey, you know? Or as the thing,
women don't really you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I think that they just they don't have any desire
for male nurturing.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Like I don't think.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Laura thinks you're gonna make from scratch chicken noodle soup
from her because it would probably not taste very good,
So she's not angling at accurate. That's actually a good
thesis on what's going on here, because women do regularly
attack men. But I will say that my bat with
the flu this weekend was probably the equivalent of ten
(30:05):
labor deliveries by women. That's just how hard I was
fighting again humbly maybe maybe nine maybe nine baby deliveries.
I mean, it's just like my immune system, the battle
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Speaker 1 (31:50):
Welcome back in.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show. Appreciate all of you hanging
out with us. We got a bunch of people weighing
in on a variety of different subjects. V email from
Ron Buck he says sorry. From Kerry Beyonce. Winning a
Grammy for country music is like Obama winning a Nobel
Prize for winning a presidential election. That of course, was
(32:13):
a crazy Nobel Prize. Another good example would be the
New York Times winning all those Pulitzers for their Russia
collusion stories. We got a couple of different callers, Jason
in Texas, you have an idea historical analogy for Elon Musk,
who you got?
Speaker 10 (32:28):
I think Benjamin Franklin is the closest person I could
compare him to to have such an impact first in
science and business and then in the diplomacy that we're
seeing that the blending between that and the political world,
there's really I can't think of another better example. People
forget that Benjamin Franklin was a wildly successful business guy
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before he became a scientist, and then he became a
famous politician. And I think they're both literal geniuses. And
as I told the screener, President Trump has done more
in the first two weeks of his first term than
every single Republican president I've voted for since nineteen eighty
eight has ever done. They all promised this stuff, they
(33:13):
never did any of it. And if he has a
great second term, he eclipses Reagan, FDR and Lincoln on
as saleably true.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
It's an incredible call. I agree with everything he said.
I mean, the things that Trump has done in the
first two weeks are frankly incredible. I think Buck's right.
If we want to kind of be concerned going forward.
It's that Congress doesn't have the ability to match the
speed and efficacy of the executive branch because it's Congress
(33:44):
and because the majorities in the House in the Senate
are not huge, and so it's going to act as
a sort of break on the ability to move the
government very rapidly in a direction that it needs to go.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
John and kp cod what you got for us?
Speaker 6 (34:00):
Hey, I love the show, guys. It's always a pivotal
part of my day as a government employee. I cannot
wait for this doach to take effect and come in.
I'm not the blue collar of the government workforce, and
I cannot wait for it to come in. Clean house,
save us some money, get the government on track. Also,
(34:24):
I was offered ay, I don't know if you guys
saw it, but Trump had to put out an order
for us for government employees to resign up until February sixth.
You get paid for eight months. So the branch that
I work for is off of DHS. We were actually
denied this because they were not aware of the amount
of people that were applying to resign early eight months
(34:48):
of pay. They're not ready for it, and there's hundreds
of not thousands. So you know, I think it's good
that we're start getting rid of as the high bureaucratic
GS employees and and clean up with this DOGE. But
on the other hand, I'm not sure if Trump was
aware that there's this many government employees that are going
(35:08):
to actually resign.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
And thank you for the call and sharing that information.
If it's true, that's phenomenal news, Buck, because one of
the fastest ways you could curb government spending is not
to have the current current cost every year of all
of the two million plus federal employees. I think they
were saying they were hoping for six or ten percent,
(35:32):
and I appreciate that individual's call. If he's right that
it ended up being fifteen percent that we're willing to leave,
that's even better. Well, also, notice that we're not seeing
DOGE say, hey, we're just gonna we're gonna like fire
everybody in border patrol, and we're gonna get rid of
all the federal prosecutors, and we're gonna There are jobs
(35:52):
that government does that we know need to be done,
and some people do them very well, and they are
needed and they are appreciated. The amount of waste, fraud,
and abuse that goes on in the federal bureaucracy, which
has just been getting bigger and more expensive and less efficient.
For again, I think our entire adult lives pretty much
(36:15):
is obviously something that should be dealt with. And it's funny, Clay,
because if you listen to the critics of this, it
almost sounds like they think every federal job and every
dollar spent on the federal government is sacred. How could
you cut anything, No business, no entity operates that way
where we're at perfection, that's insane. Well, it is emblematic
(36:37):
of the fact that Democrats don't understand how profit and
loss works, or understand it to a large extent, how
basic business works, which is why all their policies fail.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Frankly,
Hour two, Clay and Buck kicks off.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Now Trump and Elon's onslaught of sanity continues, grows, expands.
It's an amazing thing that we are witnessing. My friends,
enjoy it, drink it all in. After all the years
where we were in the cultural and political wilderness, and
(00:23):
I'm not just talking about the four years of Biden.
You think back to eight years of Obama and what
they were able to do to sabotage Trump in the
first term and of course in the twenty twenty election.
To where we are now is an incredible story arc.
It is a narrative that you wouldn't believe unless the
world was experiencing it right, unless it was actually happening.
(00:46):
And it just continues every time, every time I refresh
my ex feed. Trump just assigned an executive order to
establish a sovereign wealth Fund. He's just moving at breakneck speed.
And you know, the implications for this, I might add,
are so profound, beyond even and we're going to dive
into some of the specific policies here in a second.
(01:07):
But Clay, just that the it's the government. It can't
be fixed. This is how it does what it does.
Just accept it. That mentality is under assault now in
a way that I don't even think a lot of
the American people. I don't know if any American people
really until Trump came along, thought it was possible.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
And that brings me to a few things here.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
One is Elon Musk sharing on his platforms time to confess.
Media reports saying that Doge has some of the world's
best software engineers are in fact true.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
He's just trolling everybody.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
They have access now, people who are better at the
Internet and just understanding how the architecture of the you know,
electronic world we live in functions Clay. They've got access
to the Treasury Department's payment portal and they're going through
everything and they're looking to see apparently they weren't even
(02:03):
paying attention to what kind of fraud they were paying
out before.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I mean, this is such a sea change.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
And now on the USAID front, which the office, the
main office in DC is shut down today and people
are being told to work from home pursuing too. I
would assume some major changes going in the governments in
that government structure. But Marco Rubio had this to say
about Yeah, USAID, it's kind of a crappy place, listen
(02:32):
to it.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yeah, there are things that USAID that we do through
the USAID that we should continue to do, and we
will continue to do. But everything they do has to
be in alignment with the national interest in the foreign
policy in the United States. And the attitude that USAID
has adopted over the years is no, we are independent
of the national interest. We fund programs irrespective of whether
it's aligned or not aligned with the foreign policy.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
That's ridiculous. He's a taxpayer dollars.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Every penny that we spend in fore and eight needs
to be fans and aligned with the national interest and
the foreign policy of the United States. So this is
not about ending the programs that USAID does per se.
There are things that it does that are good, and
there are things that it does that we have strong
questions about. It's about the way it operates as an industry,
and they're supposed to take directions from the State Department
(03:18):
of Policy, directions they do not.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
See Clay.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
This is the critical point that Secretary Rubio is making.
It is about bringing these government institutions that are in
the executive purview, in the exec under the executive branch,
bringing them to heal so that they understand they are
not their own thing, that get to just exist and
make their own decisions about the future of this country
(03:41):
with taxpayer dollars. I think the big picture that we're
seeing here so far is, you know, we've talked buck
about how Democrats don't seem to be able to respond.
Front page story in the New York Times saying like,
what did Democrats stand for? What of the issues they
have is Democrats are very good at being told what
(04:04):
to do and march in lockstep right. They are sort
of a monive mine. Anyways, high mind you if somebody
speaks and they all go out and they repeat the
talking points, and what's interesting is that is a very
government based way of thinking because it's top down, but
(04:24):
it relies on sort of everybody moving in concert. I
don't know if we have the cut of Chuck Schumer
talking about how beer prices he's trying to connect with
people talking about the Super Bowl, and he's like, your
prices on beer are going to go up, and the
avocados that you use to make guacamole, those costs are
going to go up as well. The problem that you're
(04:46):
seeing happen here is and I thought about it as
I was reading all my morning papers and expecting that
we were going to get a resolution. Is they all
think catastrophe is coming, and then Trump is negotiating, and
before the catastrophe is coming, he's getting a better deal
and we're stepping back often from the edge. They don't
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have the ability buck to respond because they're moving at
government speed and Trump is moving at business speed. And
then you combine it with social media, which moves faster
than any legacy media can move. And so by the
time a story gets to people, it's old news.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
It happened with.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Columbia, like you scrolled through your phone and they're like,
oh my goodness, it's Valentine's Day coming up soon, and
do you know how much more your roses are gonna cost?
Do you know how much more your blueberry smoothies are
gonna cost? Your coffee? And then Columbia relents, and all
their talking points just look ridiculous. They're too slow to react,
(05:47):
and by the time they react, what they're reacting to
doesn't exist anymore. It's like, you remember a war, Every
war is fought. You're a military history guy like I am,
Every war is faught. What with the technology of the
previous war. Democrats are fighting Trump with the technology of
a pre existing war, and Trump has changed the rules
(06:10):
of the game and they aren't able to meet him
in intellectual combat as a result. Well, I think there's
been an equalizing of the armaments in this ideological war
that can be brought to bear on both sides. Right, So, yes,
they they have a playbook that's we have media dominant,
(06:31):
social media dominance, so we can just hammer the message
and do whatever we want. And that's not working. The
New York I cut this out. I thought we'd do
a whole segment on it, but you mentioned it, so
I'll just give the headline New York Times quote, we
have no coherent message. Democrats struggle to oppose Trump. More
than fifty interviews with Democratic leaders reveal the parties struggling
(06:54):
to decide what it believes in, what issues to prioritize,
and how to confront an aggressive right wing administration. Can
I just point out we have been saying this since
Trump's victory. Our assessment of the other side on this
show has been it's like crickets chirping, they got nothing,
And this.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Isn't right wing talk.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Radio or no, no, that is an accurate assessment. Democrats
are telling that to the New York Times. Okay, the
trust me. The New York Times can get fifty high
level former Biden staffers and Kamala campaign people and whatever
to sit and talk to them, and they're all saying
the same thing, which is, what are we supposed to
do here? Because they had built their whole future on
(07:35):
the destruction of Trump? And what do they have, Clay,
not just the rise of Trump, but really it's like
super Trump. It's like Gandolf the White when he comes
back after fighting the ball rog.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Like we're in a whole new era.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
To be honest, Buck, a part of me wonders, what
is Trump gonna have left to do? I mean, in
all sincerity, he's moving so fast to do so much
right now. And I give him credit because we talked
about he may only have a year or eighteen months
before everything bogs down again. Congress, this is where it's
(08:09):
really can he get the narrow majority he has, especially
on spending and with reconciliation? And so here's what I see.
Cause your point about the executive orders, Yeah, I don't
think we're going to wake up in July, and we're
going to have amazing executive orders flying from the White House,
not because of anything other than I think a lot
of the smart stuff that they've thought about they've been
(08:30):
putting into action. So your point on that well taken,
I agree. I think this is creating a reservoir of
political capital for Trump within I mean, not that he
really needs anymore, but to degree that that's a thing
within the Republican Party. And I also think it's creating
a sense of urgency within the GOP that you either
get on board or we really are paying attention. We
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know that change can happen, and if you're going to
try to stand to thwart this, to protect the old ways,
so to speak, of the GOP establishment, you're gonna get
steamrolled by MAGA in a big way. I don't think
there's any doubt.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Now.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
What I will expect is there will be some Democrat senators,
governors for sure, and probably congress people as well that
are going to do everything they can to try to basically,
using your metaphor there, throw themselves across the train tracks
to try to stall what is coming. But I think
(09:29):
in general, the challenge they have is whatever they're responding
to is often already passed, and whatever calamity they claim
is going to occur doesn't materialize. And guys, if we
can grab that footage of Chuck Schumer coming out and
talking about how beer comes from Mexico and do we
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have that cut twenty nine? Here is this, Buck? I
think it kind of illustrates what I'm talking about, just
a fundamental inability to respond. The dynamics of the changed
so quickly that whatever they say publicly is outdated almost immediately.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Listen to this.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Let's just take Super Bowl Sunday. Okay, it's going to
affect beer. Okay, most of it Corona here comes from Mexico.
It's going to affect your gloc because what is guacamole
made of avocados both from Mexico.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Okay, as awkward as this is, they're like, hey, politician
who does not know what normal people are like, We're
going to give you a beer, and we're going to
give you an avocado, and we're going to have you
argue that Super Bowl Sunday is going to be an impact.
And first of all, Buck, most beer doesn't come from Mexico.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
You can buy. In fact, you can.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Buy virtually all your beer in the United States born
and brot. That's one of the best things that America
does is create a bevy of beer. I'm not a
beer drinker for obvious reasons, but I used to be,
and I could tell you if Corona was so great,
you wouldn't have to drop a line in it.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I'm just saying. And then on.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
The notion that your avocado is going to get so
much more expensive and all this stuff, Okay, first of all,
not true to your points, not even what's happening. But
let's just unpack this for a second. Trump is trying
to get the necessary assistance from Mexico so that we
don't have a wide open border with ten million illegals
piling in. Whatever the number is, guys, Okay, don't you know,
(11:23):
maybe it's fifteen million.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Who cares.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Point is ten million plus illegals piling in every four years,
one hundred thousand people dying every year of fentonl overdoses
or something close to it, cartel activity, human smuggling, all
of this stuff.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
You know, if we can get help on that, and
it means our avocado's are a little more expensive. The
American people are actually okay with that. You know, this
is the part of the Democrats don't seem to understand
Trump is using leverage for more important goals. He's not
just you know, lightened mounds of avocados on fire in spite.
He's trying to get foreign partners to actually be partners.
(11:59):
And turn turns out some of them are realizing there
is a new sheriff in town.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
But their response is we're gonna have Chuck Schumer show
up and hold on avocado. And back to the optics
of it, they're absurd. They're absurd. But if it is
where they are and they're so far behind, it's important.
Who's a better symbol for the Democrats right now than
Chuck Schumer? Who's more effective? I'm not saying Chuck Schumer
is effective.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Who's better? I don't think they do?
Speaker 6 (12:27):
You.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I mean, really, do you think they have one right now?
Aoc would get laughed at. I think it's funny. I
think Fetterman because at least him holding up a beer
and I don't think he would do it. But he's
way too nice to Republicans for the Democrat basis right.
I totally get that. And he's also wrong on Israel
from their perspective. I'm just saying, who could hold up
(12:48):
an avocado and a beer talking about their Super Bowl
party and me not think they look ridiculous? At least
I think Fetterman's going to probably have a beer in
some avocado at his super Bowl party. I don't think
that Chuck Schumer is going to watch the super Bowl
other than to be like, oh, this is what you
know the humans are doing, right Like So, one of
the things that is so amazing about all of this
(13:11):
is the whole Trump era. Trump, a multi billionaire from Manhattan,
is somehow more normal than all of these other politicians
who have none of his wealth advantages or upbringing.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
How is that even possible?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Like how is Trump better at connecting with normal people
from his Trump Tower, you know suite?
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Then most of these politicians.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Who grew up in otherwise quote unquote normal circumstances that
most Americans at least could connect with.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
It's kind of remarkable.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
And you know who's not particularly normal These USAID employees
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Speaker 1 (13:55):
They're like, wait, we have jobs forever. The department is here, forever.
Turns out a lot.
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Having a fantastic Monday as we are powering through the
program right now and Buck, we've been talking about a
lot of what's going on in the tariff battles, the
ongoing outcome of the government being put through the ringer
by basic business dynamics. Having said all of that, did
(16:15):
you see, in much less serious news that Beyonce won
the Country Music Album of the Year last night? Did
you see this come across your your feed?
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I came across my feed, along with text messages from
random friends of mine who I haven't even heard from
a while, being like.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Hey, what is Clay things going to happen in the
super Bowl that I'm like, I'll ask him right away.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
I'm right on it. I'll get you the Clay answered.
Ask me any questions. You will give me a list
of ten questions for Clay from the super Bowl. A
kid who went to high school with me. Anyway, but yes,
I saw, I saw that that happened. Let me ask
you this and we can have some fun with this
a little bit more. Maybe Beyonce. First of all, this album,
(16:59):
I'm not we all know, am the world's foremost proponent
of the flute, but I am basically tone deaf, so
I will acknowledge my musical knowledge very low on the
musical spectrum. But Beyonce's country music album according to everyone
I trust who has ever heard country music, is absolutely atrocious.
(17:21):
Not only won Best Country Album, she won Album of
the Year. It wasn't even nominated by country music artists
as a song or album of the year.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
What is this the equivalent of, like?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Who is this like winning a championship or being awarded something?
I'm curious out there in the audience. It seems to
me the personification of DEI itself, which is designed to
just provoke woke outrage by giving us ridiculous results. I
actually think it's symptomatic of Democrats still not learning their
(17:55):
lesson and of the idea Kamala won the election.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
It's crazy.
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to clay An Buck. We haven't really gotten into this
yet because there's been so much big stuff happening. But
(19:05):
it turns out that the deep state is not so
comfortable over at the FBI anymore. In fact, there have
been some senior level resignations, people being pushed out looking
for more about who was involved in j six. Julie
Kelly joins US now. She is the author on sub
Stack of Declassified with Julie Kelly, and I highly recommend
(19:29):
you see what she is writing these days. Julie, bring
us up to speak, because you know these aren't just
random names and news stories. You've been following some of
these characters at the FBI and what they've done to
j six people you know at the senior level in particular.
But bring us into the shock waves that have MSNBC
putting former FBI people on the TV to tell us
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that fascism is here.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
What's going on?
Speaker 8 (19:54):
Right?
Speaker 9 (19:54):
So, we know about the purge at the DOJ of
some top officials who were involved in this ongoing law
there against President Trump. Some of them were reassigned to
an immigration enforcement unit, and at least one of them
resigned because he really doesn't want to get his fingernails dirty.
He'd rather be doing the dirty work of the Democratic Party.
Those days, of course, are over. We also know that
(20:18):
several assistant US attorneys in the DCUs Attorney's Office, the
office that has been handling or was handling the January
sixth investigation of prosecution, they also have been terminated. But
now we're focused on this purge at the FBI. Several
top officials, including the deputy director at the Washington Field office.
(20:41):
It looks like the head of the Las Vegas Field
office and a few more have been retired, resigned, let go.
We're not really sure what the circumstances how they went
about that. But what's really interesting when I'm keeping an
eye on today, you guys, is this questionnaire that was
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sent out over the weekend or maybe it was Friday,
to every employee asking them to account for their involvement
in the J six prosecution and investigation. Now we know,
because Chris Ray used to brag about every single one
of the fifty six FBI field offices were involved in
(21:22):
that investigation prosecution. What the acting FBI director has been
asked to do, and it appears, when we can talk
about him as well, that he is being somewhat defiant
in executing this order and this questionnaire to all of
these employees asking them what they did or they witnesses
(21:43):
at trials? Did they surveil Americans? Were they handling search warrants?
Were they handling these armed raids? That questionnaire is due
back this afternoon and then we will see from there
what the acting DOJ officials want to do with that
hold off and tell Pamboni is confirmed, or take some
immediate action.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Julie, is there anything Trump hasn't done yet that you
think he should done? Should do your way out in
front on part in all the jan six ers, he
did that. The blowback has been almost non existent. I
think partly that's because of how absolutely indefensible many of
the pardons that Biden gave on his way out were.
(22:27):
But you won that battle. It has been transformative, I
think for many people out there had to deal with
those prosecutions. What's on your checklist that Trump hasn't done yet?
And can you believe what he's already done in basically
fourteen days.
Speaker 8 (22:44):
No, I can't.
Speaker 9 (22:45):
I mean, I think I said the other day, this
is something that I used to like dream about, is
that these prosecutors would feel the same sort of pain
that they've inflicted on j six ers. Now certainly all
of the FBI agents who were involved as well. So yes,
I mean, this is stunning. And again kudo's to President Trump,
(23:06):
the acting Attorney General James McHenry, the acting Deputy Attorney
General A. Mil Bove, who will remain in the Department
of Justice after Pambondi, and the permanent Deputy Attorney General
Todd Lanche is confirmed. So this has exceeded my wildest dreams,
and they really were wild dreams because I thought these
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people are never going to be held accountable for what
they're doing.
Speaker 8 (23:30):
But a few things.
Speaker 9 (23:31):
I really hope that the President considers pardoning the rest
of the people. Those fourteen individuals whose sentences were commuted,
a few of them Thomas Caldwell for example, and I
hope you guys have him on your show. He wasn't
sentenced to prison, he was not a member of the oathkeepers.
He had one charge left against him at the end
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of the day, and that was tampering with documents because
he got rid of his Facebook account, believe it or not,
and that was even vacated by the judge. So I
really would like to see the President consider pardoning those
individuals as well. Also, we have the whit Murph fed
napping hoax. We have two men in super max prisons
being tortured. I mean they are with the country's most
(24:16):
hardened repeat offender, serious criminals, serious terrorists, and of course
those men also in trap by the FBI. I would
like to see his DJ, if not part in those
two individuals, but launch an investigation into what happened there. So,
but I'm not complaining because this is, as I said,
a far better start than any of us could have
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dreamed of.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
What do you think comes next? Is this all, Julia?
I know you've been following this so closely. Is this
going to just get tangled up in the courts really fast?
Because really, at the heart of this, it seems to
me that there is this belief that if you work
for the federal government you just can't be fired. I mean,
you know that you get to just do what you
do and nothing ever happens. And then when you have
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a president who comes in and with presidential power and
with his appointees and saying no, I'm sorry, there is
going to be accountability. What would it mean if the
courts overturned this and said, no, sorry, you actually can't
fire these FBI? Did you see what I mean? What
do you think happens next? And what are the implications
of it?
Speaker 8 (25:19):
Right?
Speaker 9 (25:19):
So, this very well could end up in the courts.
You had normalize in our favorite lawfare architect and Mark
zaid send a letter to the Department of Justice yesterday
warning that you'll love this. You will love this, that
the due process and constitutional rights of these prosecutors and
FBI agents are being violated, that they are going to
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be subject to doxing and harassment because they are being
exposed for what they've done, especially in the J six investigation,
and that these lawyers will pursue some sort of legal
means to defend these government employees from getting the acts.
So it could end up in the courts. The problem
is it will probably end up in the DC courts
(26:04):
before the very same judges who have put their informater
on every aspect of this law fair from President Trump
down to some of his associates and associates that of
course almost one thousand and six hundred JA six defendants.
Speaker 8 (26:18):
So I figured this.
Speaker 9 (26:19):
Will be a battle, but you know there's going to
be risk involved for that side as well, and that
is arguing why they should have been fired and what
they did, whether it was top DOJ officials or you know,
an FBI case agent out of a field office in
Nevada or in Texas. So this full accounting is going
(26:41):
to be very eye opening, and I think that they're
kind of setting the table for Pamboby and Cash Pattel
to take this information that they have and then decide
how they want to pursue their own investigations or inquiries
into the DOJ and FBI.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
This is all very important, and you've done tremendous work,
as has Trump. How impressed Be honest, Julie, are you
with my unbelievable recovery from the flu and also the
fact that I have barely talked about it at all.
Speaker 9 (27:12):
I just I just want to give thanks to God
for sparing you from the sniffles. I mean it's really
sounded touch and go. And now we have to send
prayers out to Jesse.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Kelly, I know you're weighing in.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Jesse's entire family is about to go down with the flu.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
And I was very brave.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I stayed in bed, I watched twelve hours of college basketball,
and I frankly think it was a heroic battle.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I was fighting.
Speaker 10 (27:39):
Well.
Speaker 9 (27:40):
I painted save Clay on the water tower outside my house,
and now I'm going to have to go change it
save Jesse because and who knows who's next.
Speaker 8 (27:50):
I mean, this is this is quite quite the cult.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
The men in America are under siege.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
I mean, we just don't talk about our health as
often as we should, but we're really all very steadfast troopers,
and Julie just you know, you may think it's ai
that Fauci visited Clay with a special check in to
make sure he got his fourteenth booster, but there are
some people out there who don't accept that explanation and
think that really it was just surveillance footage the Fauci
(28:18):
meme that.
Speaker 8 (28:19):
Really showed up we would have a far different.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Outcome for Clay, So that's very true.
Speaker 8 (28:25):
I'm glad that's not real.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Julie, you continue to dominate. We appreciate you taking the
time to come on. And also I want to give
producer Greg a shout out because it was his creation
of that Fauci meme that as I was deliriously rolling
over in a fever, wasn't sure if I was going
to make it or not. That was the thing that
was on my phone. So I appreciate Greg. Julie, I
(28:50):
expect that when you get the flu, you'll also be
doing eight other jobs at the same time as most
women do.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
But we we appreciate you.
Speaker 8 (28:58):
All right, guys, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Thank you, But do you that's Julie Kelly who does
fabulous work. Do you buy into the fact, as women
like to argue that all men when they get sick,
are complete and total horses. Is this a unfair attack
on masculinity or do you think we're more of hooses
when we get sick than women are. I just think
that my view on this is that men, particularly when
(29:25):
they're sick, they want that feminine nurturing from the misses,
and so they ham it up a little bit, you know,
a little.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Bit like, oh, I don't know if I'm ever gonna
be here the same again. Can you bring me some
chicken noodle soup, honey, you know? Or as the thing,
women don't really you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I think that they just they don't have any desire
for male nurturing.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Like I don't think.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Laura thinks you're gonna make from scratch chicken noodle soup
from her because it would probably not taste very good,
So she's not angling at accurate. That's actually a good
thesis on what's going on here, because women do regularly
attack men. But I will say that my bat with
the flu this weekend was probably the equivalent of ten
(30:05):
labor deliveries by women. That's just how hard I was
fighting again humbly maybe maybe nine maybe nine baby deliveries.
I mean, it's just like my immune system, the battle
that I was fighting. I just think it's important for
all of you to know. Julie Kelly always fantastic. I
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Speaker 2 (31:51):
Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show. Appreciate all of you hanging
out with us. We got a bunch of people weighing
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Ron Buck he says sorry. From Kerry Beyonce. Winning a
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Prize for winning a presidential election. That of course, was
(32:13):
a crazy Nobel Prize. Another good example would be the
New York Times winning all those Pulitzers for their Russia
collusion stories. We got a couple of different callers, Jason
in Texas, you have an idea historical analogy for Elon Musk,
who you got?
Speaker 10 (32:28):
I think Benjamin Franklin is the closest person I could
compare him to to have such an impact first in
science and business and then in the diplomacy that we're
seeing that the blending between that and the political world,
there's really I can't think of another better example. People
forget that Benjamin Franklin was a wildly successful business guy
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before he became a scientist, and then he became a
famous politician. And I think they're both literal geniuses. And
as I told the screener, President Trump has done more
in the first two weeks of his first term than
every single Republican president I've voted for since nineteen eighty
eight has ever done. They all promised this stuff, they
(33:13):
never did any of it. And if he has a
great second term, he eclipses Reagan, FDR and Lincoln on
as saleably true.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
It's an incredible call. I agree with everything he said.
I mean, the things that Trump has done in the
first two weeks are frankly incredible. I think Buck's right.
If we want to kind of be concerned going forward.
It's that Congress doesn't have the ability to match the
speed and efficacy of the executive branch because it's Congress
(33:44):
and because the majorities in the House in the Senate
are not huge, and so it's going to act as
a sort of break on the ability to move the
government very rapidly in a direction that it needs to go.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
John and kp cod what you got for us?
Speaker 6 (34:00):
Hey, I love the show, guys. It's always a pivotal
part of my day as a government employee. I cannot
wait for this doach to take effect and come in.
I'm not the blue collar of the government workforce, and
I cannot wait for it to come in. Clean house,
save us some money, get the government on track. Also,
(34:24):
I was offered ay, I don't know if you guys
saw it, but Trump had to put out an order
for us for government employees to resign up until February sixth.
You get paid for eight months. So the branch that
I work for is off of DHS. We were actually
denied this because they were not aware of the amount
of people that were applying to resign early eight months
(34:48):
of pay. They're not ready for it, and there's hundreds
of not thousands. So you know, I think it's good
that we're start getting rid of as the high bureaucratic
GS employees and and clean up with this DOGE. But
on the other hand, I'm not sure if Trump was
aware that there's this many government employees that are going
(35:08):
to actually resign.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
And thank you for the call and sharing that information.
If it's true, that's phenomenal news, Buck, because one of
the fastest ways you could curb government spending is not
to have the current current cost every year of all
of the two million plus federal employees. I think they
were saying they were hoping for six or ten percent,
(35:32):
and I appreciate that individual's call. If he's right that
it ended up being fifteen percent that we're willing to leave,
that's even better. Well, also, notice that we're not seeing
DOGE say, hey, we're just gonna we're gonna like fire
everybody in border patrol, and we're gonna get rid of
all the federal prosecutors, and we're gonna There are jobs
(35:52):
that government does that we know need to be done,
and some people do them very well, and they are
needed and they are appreciated. The amount of waste, fraud,
and abuse that goes on in the federal bureaucracy, which
has just been getting bigger and more expensive and less efficient.
For again, I think our entire adult lives pretty much
(36:15):
is obviously something that should be dealt with. And it's funny, Clay,
because if you listen to the critics of this, it
almost sounds like they think every federal job and every
dollar spent on the federal government is sacred. How could
you cut anything, No business, no entity operates that way
where we're at perfection, that's insane. Well, it is emblematic
(36:37):
of the fact that Democrats don't understand how profit and
loss works, or understand it to a large extent, how
basic business works, which is why all their policies fail.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
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