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August 6, 2025 36 mins

Hour 2 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show dives into a high-stakes political discussion with New York Post columnist Miranda Devine, who joins the program to analyze the latest developments surrounding the Russia collusion hoax and the broader implications for the Biden administration and deep state actors. Devine discusses House Oversight Chair James Comer’s aggressive subpoenas targeting former attorneys general and high-profile Democrats, including Hillary and Bill Clinton. She emphasizes that Donald Trump’s second term is marked by a shift from mercy to accountability, driven by years of political persecution and revelations about intelligence manipulation under the Obama administration.

The conversation highlights Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard’s role in exposing the origins of the Russia hoax and the alleged involvement of Obama-era intelligence officials like John Brennan, James Clapper, and James Comey. Devine suggests that Trump’s Justice Department, backed by figures like Pam Bondi, Kash Patel, and Senator Chuck Grassley, is preparing for potential indictments, with multiple grand juries possibly being empaneled in Florida and Washington, D.C. The hosts and Devine explore the legal avenues available, including perjury and conspiracy charges, and discuss the public’s growing demand for justice and deterrence against future political weaponization.

Clay and Buck also take aim at mainstream media outlets such as The New York Times and The Washington Post, criticizing their refusal to retract or acknowledge false reporting related to the Russia investigation. Devine calls for the return of Pulitzer Prizes awarded for coverage now widely discredited, comparing the situation to the Jason Blair scandal. The hosts argue that legacy media has lost credibility and suggest that their curated audiences are resistant to truth and accountability.

The hour transitions into a broader critique of Democratic Party leadership, with pointed commentary on figures like Jasmine Crockett, AOC, Gavin Newsom, JB Pritzker, and Andy Beshear. Clay and Buck debate who currently represents the face of the Democratic Party, ultimately suggesting that AOC’s media savvy and influence make her the most prominent figure, despite concerns about her debate performance and political depth. They also discuss the challenges Democrats face in presenting viable national candidates, citing issues of identity politics, media optics, and internal party fragmentation.

Listeners call in to react to the political analysis, questioning how seemingly unimpressive figures continue to win elections. Clay and Buck attribute this to dynastic politics, media influence, and voter apathy. The hour also includes breaking news coverage of a shooting at Fort Stewart Army Base in Georgia, with updates confirming the shooter is in custody and no fatalities reported.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, second hour of Playing Buck kicks off with us. Now,
our friend Miranda Devine joins. She is the New York
Post columnist extraordinaire, author Laptop from Hell, among others, and
pod Force one hosts. And Miranda has always great to
have you on.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
The program, Great to be with you. I hope this
sounds okay.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Oh, it's great, It's fantastic. So tell us this comber.
Let's start with this one. Comer's subpoenas for every attorney
general that I think anybody can name going back twenty years,
and also Hillary and Bill Clinton, all this stuff. Do
you think this goes somewhere? Clay and I, I don't
know if you heard any part of this, but we're

(00:45):
both skeptical.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
But what do you think? What does this mean? What happens?

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Look, I mean, there's a lot of people trying to
do a lot of things. So just setting Congress aside,
because I think we've seen, you know, through the bi
An administration, even when the Republicans did take the House,
for all their best efforts, it's pretty much a toothlus
tiger unless it's in the hands of someone very machiavellian

(01:11):
like Nancy Pelosi. Who manages to put people like Steve
Bannon and Petere Navarro in jail for contempt of Congress.
I don't know that the Republicans in Congress are quite
that ruthless yet, but certainly Donald Trump and his Justice
Department people, whether it be Pam Bondi or Cash Fattel

(01:32):
and then CIA director John Ratcliffe, backed up by Chuck Grasley,
the Senator who's been sort of the champion of transparency
and whistleblowers forever, they are determined, they mean business. And
I think that's backed by the fact that Donald Trump
has a different attitude this term to his first term.

(01:54):
He told me in an interview that he yes, he
did feel angry a bit about these new revelations that
Telsey Gabbitt has been tabling about the origins of the
Russia hopes, about how Obama directed his National security intelligence
people to concoct this intelligence that said that Putin favored

(02:18):
Trump and that's why he won the twenty sixteen election.
That wasn't true, and it was just a sort of
a decoy from Hillary Clinton's problems and trying to solve
Obama's ego because Donald Trump's victory was a repudiation of
his eight years. So all of that has made Donald

(02:39):
Trump more determined. And he said in his first term
he wanted to show mercy. He thought the country should heal.
Even though his rallies his supporters were saying lock her
up about Hillary Clinton, he figured, well, look, she's the
wife of a former president, he's a former secretary of statate.

(03:00):
I just don't want to go after her and cause
the country to be in turmoil and chaos. I just
want to concentrate on fixing the economy, etc. Well, then
in the ensuing eight years, look what happened to him.
They targeted him with you know, impeachments, the Russia hoax law,

(03:21):
fair assassination attempts, you name it. And he's still standing.
The American people saw through it all. He want a
comprehensive victory that they can't try and be legitimized like
they did in twenty sixteen. And now he wants accountability.
And he said so, and he's told all his people,
and I think his people want accountability. I mean Tulsi

(03:44):
gabbartt and Cash Betel both have been targeted by the
deep state by well in Telsy Gabbett's place allies of
Hillary Clinton who wanted to get their revenge on her
and put her on the Quiet Sky's program. You have
so many people within the Trump or that who were

(04:05):
targeted like he was and are victims of that deep
state and are tougher and stronger as a result. So
they are all on the same page. They want accountability
and not about retribution and vendettas. It is about a deterrence.
You can't trust these people not to do it again

(04:25):
to the next Republican or MAGA president because the last
time that Trump showed mercy, they just doubled down. So
never again, I think is the motto of the Trump administration.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
We're talking to Miranda Devine, who was right on basically
everything over the years. Let me ask you a big
question here, Miranda. Let's pretend that Jeff Bezos called you.
Let's pretend that whoever is the Sulzburgers or whoever heck
runs the New York Times. Now, those two entities gave themselves,

(04:59):
through their friends in the media, Pulitzer Prizes, and I
think as a result of awarding what has been proven
to be legitimately untrue scoops that were given the highest
order of award that can happen. They just refuse to
acknowledge that everything they wrote about Russia collusion was wrong.

(05:20):
I think if you look up Buck and I talked
about this a little bit, is that Jason Blair back
in the day, The New York Times did a huge
front page story when they realized that he was a
fabulous that he had made everything up, and they said,
you know, we expect when we get things wrong, that
we acknowledged that we got things wrong. What should the
New York Times in the Washington Post do today? We
all know they screwed up for a decade. If you

(05:42):
were asked your best advice for those institutions based on
the false reporting that they did surrounding Russia and.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
More, that's a really good example to you. The Jason
Blair example. Back in the day when these newspaper institutions
were regarded as being the sort of pinnacle of journalism
and everybody wanted to work there. Well, I mean, I
think they're too far gone. But you know, if they
wanted to try and clean house and make amends, they

(06:13):
ought to start by giving back those dirty Pulitzer prizes.
I mean, the Pulitzer Foundation ought to be rescinding them.
But unfortunately, I think, like the Nobel Prize, it's lost
any cachet since they produced it by giving it to
undeserving people. The Nobel Peace Prize, remember, went to Barack

(06:35):
Obama and he barely had his feet under the desk.
And you know Donald Trump, who did the Abraham Accords,
it just was ignored. And the Pulitzers are the same.
So you start by giving back the Pulitzers, and then
you do a comprehensive investigation of what went wrong, and
you do front page mea culpers. Telsey Gavitt pointed out

(06:58):
that these organizations, you know, whether it be The Times,
The Post, the Washington Post, NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC,
they devoted something like two thousand minutes to the Russia hoax,
and so far they've devoted two minutes to collectively to

(07:19):
the revelations of the last two weeks that show that
this was you know, a total hoax, a plan, a
coup to bring down Donald Trump, to sabotage his presidency,
to delegitimize his election victory, and to sow discord with Russia.
And this was all Obama and Hillary Clinton, and they

(07:42):
sticked their you know, CIA director Brennan, FBI director Coney,
and James clapperty NSA guys. So all of that should
be gone into with you know, seven pie line extravaganzas
that they devoted to the original hoax and it ought

(08:03):
to be they should be in sackcloth and ashes, and
they should fire people. They should humiliate former editors who've
left for their so called leadership of that newsroom. I think,
I mean, it's the only way that they could restore
their reputations. But unfortunately, the way they've curated their audiences,

(08:24):
I think they would lose subscriptions. I think their readers
would go ballistic because they don't want to know the truth.
They just stick their fingers in their ears and continue
on blively. You know, the Rachel matter is their patron
saint of journalism.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
We're speaking of Moreenda Devine Podforce one isra podcast and Marenda.
I had the distinct honor and pleasure of getting to
a second with you on Will Kine Show a couple
of days ago, and.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
You were fabulous, by the way, just throw that out there.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Absolutely appreciated getting to hang out with you and with
Will It's like a great there's always a great time.
But we were talking about this grand jury component of
the Russia collusion. I guess now transparency effort that the
administration is going through. I know that it's early and

(09:18):
we don't really know, but what is your sense. Do
you think that the administration is preparing for the possibility,
at least politically, of indictments to come down against people
like Brennan and Clapper or is that just way too
far afield in your mind?

Speaker 2 (09:34):
No, I absolutely think that's the case. I mean, they're
very smart prosecutors in the Department of Justice who are
looking at this being creative. Look how creative the Biden
Department of Justice was when they were coming after Donald
Trump and various other of his allies. So there are
multiple cause on the books, probably too many, and they

(09:59):
can be employed and deployed in various ways to certainly
bring charges against these coup lotters. And you know, at first,
John Ratcliffe, CIA director kicks the ball rolling, I think
at the beginning of July with that review of the
you know, the bogus intelligence assessment, and he was talking

(10:21):
then about perjury charges. And then you know, they've talked
that the statute of limitations will have run out twenty
five years. But then that that you know, certainly Brennan
and some of the others may have also allegedly purjured
themselves when they gave testimony to some of the Biden's
impeachment inquiries, and so which is more recent. So that

(10:46):
was then, and now I think the whole conversation has
moved on to looking at conspiracy charges. And as John
Ratcliffe said just on Sunday to Maria Bartiroma, that conspiracy
continued through to this day, through the Biden administration and

(11:06):
to this day. So I think, you know, they have
a lot of leeway there to look at tying up
a lot of people. And I'm hearing that there's more
than one grand jury that they're contemplating, and paneling in
Florida would be one, maybe in d C. Just ease

(11:28):
of access for documents, and I think it's going to
be a big issue, and why wouldn't it be. You know,
you have the immense power of the federal government Department
of Justice. You now have Tulsey Gabbard who's really relentless
in pushing through any deep state obstruction she's getting from

(11:51):
these agencies to get documents and she's just referring them
straight to the DOJ. So I think it's going to
be fruit for them. And as we've heard, I mean
James Clapperson himself, he's lawyering up. Jonathan Turley says that
all of DC is lawyering up, and the lawyers are
more than busy, and some of them are having to

(12:12):
lawyer up themselves. I think it's good.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
And you know you're in a tough spot, Miranda, when
your lawyer wants to get his own lawyer, that's all
I always say. Well, that's a tough spot. Let me
ask you this quickly on the way out. I would
say the number one concern of our audience is, we've
heard all this. It's a lot of you know, flapping
of the gums, so to speak, a lot of talk.
It has never actually led to anybody being charged with crimes,

(12:38):
not even talking about convictions. What do you think the
chances are that there are people indicted for crimes and
that there is in some way at least that or
an arrest for crimes. If you were setting odds more
or less likely than fifty percent.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
I'd say more. And in part that's because exactly as
you say, we're all cynical, we're all fed up. The
boy has cried wolf a million times and nothing's ever happened.
And so I think that that actually is an issue
for Donald Trump with the loyalty of his base, because

(13:17):
they're sick of promises, they're sick of being led down
the garden path, and nobody ever is brought to account.
And therefore the deep state, the bad guys, the wrongdoers,
whatever you call them, the coup lotters, they just get
more and more emboldened. And it's very dangerous for the Republic.
It goes beyond Donald Trump. It goes to, you know,

(13:39):
the very survival of this country that you cannot have
this two tier system of justice where one side gets
just killed for the most minor issue and the other
side gets away with murder. Literally.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Rand, appreciate you being with us.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Thank you as always, Thank you great to talk to you, boy.

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Speaker 4 (15:31):
Well back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show, Our Thanks
to Miranda Divine. Governor of Texas Creg Abbot going to
be up next hour. I gotta say Miranda saying she
thinks there's a greater than fifty percent chance that there
are going to be arrests surrounding the lies that we're told,
I would take of anybody out there in media who
has been willing to take slings and arrows, particularly if

(15:54):
you work at a newspaper. I'm not sure that Miranda
took more than anybody in media for what she wrote
about the hunter byden laptop, all the work that she
did on all of that, And to me, for her
to say she expects for there to be consequences is
a prediction that I would pay attention to. So I
remain skeptical. I think you remain skeptical that there will

(16:16):
actually be charges brought. But her saying there might be
multiple grand juries is interesting because I said, to me,
linking all of this to one crime is very difficult,
I think, but then you're kind of doubling your odds.
Maybe you get shot down in DC, but you could,
I think, maybe get some indictments in Florida.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Maybe we've seen the right learn something from the approach
that the Democrats took of for criminal prosecutions for hand
picked jurisdictions, or they didn't pick the Florida jurisdictions very well.
I think they just that was just an extra shot
on goal for them. But yeah, what's the old phrase, Clay,
what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

(16:57):
That Yeah, I think that's increasingly. I said it on
the show yesterday. I guess that a lot of people
want an eye for an eye approach. The Democrats with
the legal system and the weaponization of law, I get it.
You know, it's if it's within the scope of the law,
or you can make the case, maybe you give it
a shot, put it to a jury.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
Well, I think a lot of people would just even
if they don't get the conviction, getting the grand jury
indictment I think for a lot of people would be
validation in some way because they get the arrest. You
have to post bail. Eventually, you have to either plead
guilty to a lesser crime, or you have your trial.
I think indictments from a grand jury would be seen

(17:39):
by many people as a validation of the lies that
you had to swim through for so many years. And
Miranda thinks that's more likely than not. I hope she's right.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Me too.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
I'm thinking, you know, glad, we didn't have a huge
bet on this one.

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Speaker 6 (20:20):
Democrat Party is self destructing. I mean, when you have
low IQ people like Crockett, I wonder if she's in
a relation to ship to the late great Davy Crockett,
who is a great, great, great gentleman. I wonder if
she's got a relationship to Davy Crockett, the great old
Davy Crockett. But you have this woman Crockett. She's a
very low IQ person. Somebody said the other day she's

(20:42):
one of the leaders of the party. I think you
gotta be kidding. The Democrats are lost. They have Trump
derangement syndrome so bad that they can't walk, they can't go,
they don't know where they're going. Humor is finished watched
the other day. He's lost all of his confidence.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
What are you making a clay?

Speaker 4 (21:03):
I think, first of all, it's very funny, and Davy
Crockett is an American icon, American original, and Jasmine Crockett
is an American moron. But I think what Trump has
hit on is really actually a very important part here
of the struggles that Democrats have had since his election.

(21:24):
No one is the chief spokesperson for the party, and
we told you this. Whatever you think about Nancy Pelosi,
I think Nancy Pelosi was smart and diabolical when it
came to managing and advancing the political agenda that she
believed in the most, and she got when she was
the Speaker of the House, she had everybody lined up

(21:45):
behind her. She could snap her fingers and everybody moved
in the direction she wanted to them to go.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
Buy in Mars.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
It's a very impressive leadership. Hakeem Jeffries, I mean, I
don't even think Kakeem Jeffries responds well to question when
he is talking.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
You mentioned JB. Pritzker earlier.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
I think there are a lot of Democrat governors with
fundamental flaws which limit their overall nationwide appeal. So whether
it's Gavin Newsom, whether it's JB. Pritzker, whether it's Josh Shapiro,
whether it's Andy Basheer, whether it's Wes Moore, who Gretchen Whitmer,
whomever you want to point towards and say, oh, this

(22:25):
person has been a great governor. They're going to be
the future of the Democrat Party. Bernie's too old. I
actually think the more and more I've thought about this,
and it's embarrassing how much time I sit around thinking
about things like this, I actually think AOC is the
face of the party. And I'm not saying that because
I think that AOC is a brilliant tactical politician or

(22:47):
anything else. I think she has the ability to get attention,
and I think she has the ability to dictate conversation
in some way. Doesn't mean that I think she's going
to be elected president or anything else. I'm cure if
you would sign off on that right now, if I
had to pick one person that is the face. I mean,
there are lots of people who want to be it, right,

(23:07):
Gavin Newsom is trying to do everything he can to
be the face of the Democrat Party. But I actually
think it's AOC. I think AOC if I were pointing
to somebody. She's young, she's a minority, she is adept
on social media when so many Democrats are unable to
do anything. I do not think she's particularly smart. I

(23:28):
do not think that she is particularly skilled at communication.
But I do think of all the Democrats, she's number
one on the list of who is the person that
I think of who is most likely to be the
face if you're taking away people like Bernie.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
I said that right after this last election, and I
still I think I was saying that in January of
this past year, and I still stick with it. Clay,
You know, there's there's a to me. The question is more,
is it AOC top of the ticket. And then somebody
like A who's that? Who's that Democrat in your in

(24:01):
your no in Kentucky and Kentucky Sorry, who's the Democrats?

Speaker 3 (24:05):
Bashir? Yeah, somebody like that.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
The idea is, oh, we've got another. We got a
more normal, sort of down the middle democrat there too,
so people will believe it more when AOC says I'm
not really a communist, or is it the other way around.
AOC is more the vice president, you know, to make
the base happy, and then you've got somebody who's more
like a Biden, who's just an empty suit to allow
the communist policies to go through. But I think that's

(24:28):
the only way they can do it. Remember, Democrats can
only win national elections by pretending they aren't really democrats
when the whole country is voting. That's the only way
they can pull it off. They have to pretend they're
less democrat or less left wing than they actually are.
It's a fool you game.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
The one thing I don't know about AOC, and I'd
be curious how you would analyze this is Kamala win.
She had to talk fell apart, and that's not a
good thing for democrat politician or a Republican politician, because
basically your job is to talk. And I wonder if
AOC faces real pushback. We've never really seen her on

(25:07):
a debate stage. We've never seen her prove that she
has the ability to translate whatever message she has to
a larger scale. She's fine when she's on a prompter,
she's fine when she's at a rally and she knows
what she's going to say. But when you get into
those debates, this is where Trump excelled. And I always

(25:28):
love the quote everybody has a plan till they get
punched in the face, the Mike Tyson famous quote. A
lot of people don't perform that well in that debate universe,
in the basically sort of royal rumble that becomes an
American presidential campaign, the primary more so than the actual general,
because if you're the general nominee, it's just one v

(25:50):
one the royal rumble style primary debates, anything can happen.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
You know.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
I don't know if she has that next level, next gear.
But I can look at JB. Pritzker and say he's
two flawed. I can look at I actually think he's
made awful decisions. I think Gavin Newsom has I don't
think California Democrats are gonna play well. Josh Shapiro, to me,
is the no brainer choice. But evidently he's not considerable

(26:16):
by a large portion of the Democrat base because he's Jewish.
Mayor Pete I think is out of the race because
he's gay. You know, you can start to just kind
of x people out, and what I get left with
is kamala versus kamala versus AOC like that.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
That's kind of where I see you.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Know you you were, you were cruising along there and
you were doing a great time on your lap and
then you blew a tire clay and you spun out
and you just went about one hundred and eighty miles
an hour into the barrier.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
I don't know what happened there at the end you
were about to get way through with a checkered flag.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
I just I don't.

Speaker 4 (26:53):
Andy Basheer is a total woss And I feel bad
like kind of taking a two by a forwarded this guy.
But he is every loser fraternity chair that nobody in
the fraternity actually respects. But he's like the secretary of
the fraternity. Do you hear what I'm talking about? Like yes, no, Like,
if you're actually in the fraternity to have fun, you

(27:16):
don't want the responsibility of being the president or the
vice president or the treasurer of the like Andy Basheer
is the treasurer of the fraternity. He got in because
his dad was a member of the fraternity. He walks
around in He's penny loafers and his polo.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Oh hey, nothing wrong with penny loafers and polos, sir.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
I'm just saying, he's the guy who's like, are you
sure we need that many kegs? You know, everybody's like,
could be a loser. Dude like that is Andy Basheer.
So I have I understand that there are tons of
losers in the Democrat Party, but even for Democrats, I
think they're going to look at Andy Basheer. I'm actually
I think electing Andy Basheer twice is one of the

(27:57):
most shameful things that's ever been done in the history
of the state of Like, I'm sorry, Kentucky. And so
this guy is such a limp, limp wristed loser. I mean,
did you see his Vogue photo shoot? I mean, come on,
a Vogue photo shoot. That's how you're gonna launch yourself
on the national stage. He shut down churches. He wouldn't
let you guys even play basketball for goodness sakes during

(28:18):
COVID because he thought it was too dangerous. I just
I look at this guy and I just think he's
a clown. But I think you can do this for
a lot of these guys. I think Josh Shapiro is
actually fairly smart. Unfortunately for him, in the modern Democrat Party,
you may not be elected in a primary being Jewish.
I've said it before, and I hate to say it,
but it is true.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
JB.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
Pritzker is just too fat. I mean, we're never going
to I don't think do you agree with me on this?
We're never going to elect a morbidly obese president. I
know fat taft got it back in the day that
was pre television. I just think it's not like Chris
Christy same way, like it's not gonna work in a
television age. Am I wrong on this? Or do you

(28:58):
sign off? There is a level of shell be no
that you just can't come overcome.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
He could just start slapping some peptides and he dropped
that weight in a in a hot second, though, so
maybe that change. Maybe yeah, But if you see him
all of a sudden and he'll start telling everybody, I'm
just eating chicken breast and getting in more steps. But
if you see him drop one hundred and fifty pounds.
He's running for president for sure.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
Well, I think he's going to run no matter what.
But I think he'll look like Al Sharpton and Al
Roker did. When you drop like one hundred and fifty pounds,
the skin is still there and you look like you
know that training, you got to keep that lean muscle
mass while you're dropping those LB's very very important. Otherwise
you look like you look like you're just evaporating, which
is not a good thing. But I think this is

(29:42):
the challenge that Trump was kind of getting at, and
I think he gets to the essence of issues very frequently,
which is there's a void of leadership. And unfortunately for Democrats,
morons like Jasmine Crockett, who are very outspoken have stepped
into that void. And the faces of the Democrat Party,
and there are multiple, most of them do not appeal

(30:04):
to anyone with a functional brain who is persuadable to
vote for either a Democrat or a Republican. And I
think that's the challenge they find themselves in, is it's
not going to be an easy way to get out
of that rut, which is why I was talking about
this on the start of the show.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
So why I'm stunned.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
That there isn't Ram Emmanuel has tried to do it,
that there hasn't been more of an attack on the
left yet. Gavin Newsom tried to do it. You got
to have your Sister Soldia moment where you're like, hey,
like Bill Clinton tried to do. Hey, I'm a Democrat,
but I'm not crazy, and you have to actually start
to attack people inside of your own party. Maybe that's

(30:41):
going to happen in the future. Nobody's been willing to
do it yet.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Just a note on some breaking news actually was occurring
this morning, but we're getting more live updates on it.
Our team is monitoring very closely everything that's coming out
of this. The Fort Stewart Army Base shooting. This is
in southeast Georgia. Was locked down. Five people at the
Fort Stewart Army Base we're shot this morning. So this

(31:04):
was the shooter shot. The shot members of the second
Armored Brigade Combat Team area of the base. So this
is forty miles to the southwest of Savannah, and this.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
Is we have.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
We don't have anything other than five people were shot.
The base was locked down, and we're the President has
been briefed on it. Secretary Nome has been briefed on it,
and we're monitoring this for additional information. But right now
that's what we got. But we are because some people
have been weighing in saying, hey, are you guys seeing this?
We we're watching it and the shooters in custody. Team

(31:36):
has got that for us. But as as to motives
as to status of those who have been shot, my
understanding is, you know, the incident is over, but if
we have any more further rather you know, it's it's
all clear on the base now, there's no more lockdown.
We'll have updates for you on this as they come.

Speaker 4 (31:54):
In no doubt, and some reports out there, Fox News
reported I even hate diving into this because these new
stories are breaking and we don't want to be wrong
about them, but that there does not appear to be
any fatalities. So that is what Fox News has put
out at least one of their reporters on the shooting

(32:16):
related incident. The shooter, like you said, is in custody. Look,
we'll come back, we'll break down more of this, continue
to update you as we roll through the program, But
I have to tell you right now, violence continues to
pour in all over Israel, and as a result, they
are trying to build bomb shelters to protect everyone. And

(32:39):
if you are in Israel, you have spent much of
the past two years, unfortunately having to run for air
raid sirens into the bomb shelters. And I've said it before,
and I've said it and continue.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
To repeat it.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
If Israel laid down weapons today, it wouldn't exist within
a few weeks. If the rest of the Middle East
would put down their weapons, there would be peace in
the Middle East. And you saw that on October seventh.
Now's your time to stand with Israel and they're hoped
for peaceful future. You can call eight eight eight four
eight eight I f CJ. That's eight eight eight four

(33:12):
eight eight I f CJ to make your donation to
build bomb shelters. Or you can go online to IFCJ
dot org. That's IFCJ dot org.

Speaker 5 (33:23):
News and politics, but also a little comic relief. Clay
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Speaker 4 (33:34):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Uh Dean
from South Florida. H juays in what's Dean got for us?

Speaker 3 (33:43):
Funt all right?

Speaker 1 (33:44):
I say that made my headspan is you know Animasher's week,
he's olympres prit skurr is obs you know, do nothing.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Then you've got you know newsgum.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
Well they all got elected somehow.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
I mean, who is voting for the idiots?

Speaker 4 (34:01):
This is a question that I'm sure many of you
sit around thinking about a great deal. I do not think,
and we've talked about this a lot, I do not
think we are represented by the best possible candidates. I
think a lot of people who are successful in life
say it's not worth getting into the mess of running
for political office.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
The easy answer is JB.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
Pritzker is a billionaire, and Andy Basheer's daddy was governor
of Kentucky, and lots of people. If you have billions
of dollars to spend, you're gonna get elected.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
That's the reality.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
And if your daddy was governor, you have a really
good chance of getting elected too. Ultimately, it falls on voters,
and voters sit and watch television ads and they get
influenced by them while claiming they aren't, and if they
know a name, they'll show up and vote for the
same name.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Again.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
This is why dynasties and politics happen, because a lot
of people liked Andy Basheer's daddy, and so they've decided
to vote for the treasurer of the fraternity UH to
continue to be representing the state. To me, Kentucky's an
embarrassment because Bashier has been an awful governor and they
rubber stamped him to return. That's the part that I

(35:15):
would say is UH is disappointing. Jamie Pritzker just bought
the governor's race in in Illinois. I mean, he's a
billionaire kid. He just can pay whatever he needs to
be able to get elected. I mean, I think that's
the answer.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
Yeah. Not not impressive. Not impressive people at all. So
there's that, and that's unfortunately the case.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
UH.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Paul and Huntington Beach.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
What's going on, Paul?

Speaker 6 (35:41):
How you doing?

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Guys?

Speaker 3 (35:43):
We're good? Hey.

Speaker 6 (35:45):
I want to know, UH, what are you guys going
to get your coffee into costco?

Speaker 4 (35:50):
Well, that would be thank you for the call. That
would be a help move if we could get there.
And right now we are going straight direct to consumer
and thousands and thousands of you have signed up. You're
even starting to hear the ads elsewhere. That would probably
take a few years, I mean candidly, because you have
to be able to produce direct to consumer products at

(36:11):
a massive scale to be able to get into Costco.
I'm not sure, frankly, whether Costco would like the politics
of Davy Crockett. They tend to be a left wing
organization of a company like ours that believes in American exceptionalism.
But we'll see, Buck, you're about to bounce, you're going
to be. I don't know if you told people where
you're gonna be the next few days or is that

(36:31):
a top secret.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
I don't want to blow blow things away. I'm heading
to the mountains of North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
So if you see a guy with poofy hair, a
beautiful wife, and a really cute baby and a stroller,
come say hi.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
It's me

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