December 4, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show delivers a packed lineup of breaking news, exclusive interviews, and in-depth analysis. The hour opens with Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy, who previews tomorrow’s major World Cup draw event at the Kennedy Center, a global spectacle coinciding with America’s 250th birthday celebrations. Secretary Duffy outlines the Department of Transportation’s critical role in ensuring smooth travel for millions of visitors, from upgraded transit systems to intercity connectivity. He also highlights the economic impact of the World Cup, projecting billions in revenue for hotels, airlines, and local businesses, and discusses President Trump’s involvement as a central figure in the event.
The conversation shifts to modernizing America’s air traffic control system, where Duffy details a $12.5 billion investment to replace outdated infrastructure and transition from analog to digital systems by 2028. He previews innovations like air taxis, drone deliveries, autonomous vehicles, and even supersonic flight technology that could revolutionize travel in the next decade. Duffy also addresses the air traffic controller shortage, revealing a 2,000-person gap and offering insights into recruitment, training, and incentives for experienced controllers to stay on the job.
Later in the hour, House Majority Leader Steve Scalise joins to discuss urgent legislative priorities before Congress adjourns for the year. Scalise emphasizes efforts to lower healthcare costs through expanded health savings accounts, association health plans, and increased competition beyond the Affordable Care Act. He previews upcoming bills on housing affordability, tax relief for overtime and tips, and the National Defense Authorization Act, underscoring a focus on reducing inflation and strengthening national security. Scalise also addresses the SCORE Act, aimed at restoring structure to college athletics, protecting student-athletes from exploitative contracts, and safeguarding Olympic and Title IX sports.
Throughout the hour, Clay and Buck monitor the FBI press conference announcing the arrest of the alleged January 6th pipe bomber, Brian Cole Jr. The hosts analyze the implications of this breakthrough in a five-year investigation, noting how the arrest challenges narratives about the Capitol riot and raises questions about law enforcement priorities under previous leadership. Early details about the suspect’s background and potential motives are discussed, with promises of deeper analysis in Hour 3.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome back in nour number two Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We are
monitoring the soon to be press conference from the FBI
about an arrest in the DC pipe bomb case. We
will keep you updated on that in DC as well.
We are joined now by Secretary Sean Duffy. I am
(00:24):
headed to DC a little bit later this afternoon for
the big event at the Kennedy Center tomorrow with the
World Cup coming to the United States. It is going
to be an incredible scene. I know there are many
different things that you are working on on a variety
of different arenas every single day, but this is a
fun one. Secretary Sean Duffy with us right now. What
(00:47):
should we know about this big event that is starting
in June and will officially be laid out bracket style
to a large extent tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
So first off, when I imagine here, you're not driving,
so hopefully your flight is going to be not delayed
on time.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
You're going to be you know, perfect air time.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I can't control the weather, but beyond that and hopefully
you're in a good place listen.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
So this is exciting.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
So tomorrow we'll have thousands of people, including yourself at
the Counity Center.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I'm going to be there as well.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
But a billion people tune in for the draw around
the world to see, you know, what team is going
to play, what team, where it's going to be, you know, fantastic.
Donald Trump is going to be there, that the President
of Mexico is going to be there as well.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
So that's really exciting.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
And as we look to the summer again we're celebrating
in America's two hundred and fiftieth birthday. Exciting, and the
World Cup is going to come. There'll be eleven million
people that fly into the country to watch the games.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
And again from.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
My perspective, why is DOT involved, Well, we're one of
the most important aspects. So not only welcoming you know,
foreign travelers into the country, working with Christy Nome and
Marco Rubio to make it a seamless experience, but then
they're flying between host cities, they're taking trains, buses, and
then in the cities, making sure the transit actually works buses, railcars, tracks,
(02:10):
to make sure that we get all of these spectators
into the facilities and then back out out again.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Do it safely do it seamlessly.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
This is our opportunity to showcase America on our great birthday.
And so listen, we've been working for shift nine months
on this thing to make sure that all of our
teams are working together in resources and assets are deployed
to make sure it's a great experience for what is
going to be a global event.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
What kind of money, Secretary Duffy, does this bring into
the country. What are some of the estimates about the
economic activity and just all of that side of things.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I don't have those numbers, but listen, this is billions
of dollars that come in. You fill up, you fill
up hotels, you fill up planes, restaurants, and.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Then you know there's time between you know, each of
the matches.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
So there's an opportunity for foreigners who might might might
become to America for the first time to go out
and see our beautiful country, a lot of places to
go check out and to where as you're you know,
waiting for the next match. So again, many billions of
dollars this is going to impact the country, and so
it's that that part of it's huge. By the way,
can I tell you mean Donald Trump loves sports, right,
(03:19):
whether he's going, you know, to basketball, football, but so
not as we have the World Cup going on during
the two hundred and fifieth birthday, he has a UFC
cage match first time at.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
The White House going on as well.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
So it's going to be a lot of fun but
a huge economic revenue driver for the country.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
And by the way, so.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
You have people coming into to watch soccer, but you know,
who knows how many times they come back to go
This was a great experience in America.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
And I think here's the problem.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
We have a lot of a lot of people around
the world who have said, am I welcome to come
to America. They've seen that people have overstayed their visas
or they've come here legally, and we've tried to deport them.
We've taken those who haven't come awfully sent them out.
That doesn't mean we don't want people to come. Of course,
we want people to come. We want them to come
the right way and come and visit and come and
(04:07):
see all we have to offer and then follow our rules.
And there's a timeline in which they get their VSAs
and you know, which will be well after the games
have ended and they.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Can head home. But so now we want people to come.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
For people who don't know. And I've been doing my
research on this because I turn into a pretty decent
soccer fan every four years, because I'm a big sports fan.
There are one hundred and four games I believe that
are going to be played. We're talking Department of Transportation
Secretary Sean Duffy. The vast majority of those games are
going to be played in the United States, and there
are now forty eight teams that are going to that
(04:43):
are going to be involved in the World Cup. They've
expanded it from thirty two. Tomorrow we will find out
which of the twelve groups of four the United States
is in among other countries. Do you know what President
Trump's role is going to be tomorrow? It's taking place
at the Kennedy Center. This is in many ways a
Trump production. Fox Sports is going to be putting it on.
(05:04):
Like you said, I'll be there. There'll be a ton
of us there. What do you know about the event tomorrow?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
So I'll get to that in a second.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
But again, there's there's sixteen host cities, eleven or in
the United States. We are the main the main host,
and so it's it's gonna be a big production. Again,
I'm going as well. I hear it's like red carpet
and everyone's coming in, and it's the production value. And
by the way, no one produces events like this better
than Donald Trump. I think he's maybe a master of ceremonies,
(05:35):
going to address the crowd, you know, before the draws happened.
And again he's the most famous person in the world.
And to be there lending his name the presidency to
this great event, I think makes it that much more
exciting and interesting. But again, the world tunes in because
they're excited to see you know what group they're going
to be in.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
You know who they're going to play. And do I
have an easy bracket a hard bracket? You know what
are you know what's uh?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
What's my prospects now for my team to prevail in
the World Cup. So again the details, I'm showing up, Buck,
you playing no more than I mean, Clay, you know
more than I do. I'm coming, but I don't know.
I'm just I'm bringing my scarf and I'm gonna be
there and I'm gonna enjoy the festivities and and pick
it up.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Like you will.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Secretary Sean Duffy with us now Secretary of Transportation. And
I'm sure this is your favorite question, mister Secretary. I'm
sure that everywhere you go, when everyone realizes who you
are and then you're asking what's up?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
My favorite question is a bad lead up to.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
The Oh yeah, no, I trust me.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
So how are we doing with the whole fixing air
traffic control and making planes go on time?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Mister secretary?
Speaker 4 (06:43):
You know this is something near and dear to everybody
who flies all over the Country's hard, and I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
People ask you.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
I'm sure you get asked at the Thanksgiving table, you
get asked at the airport when you're.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Flying, what's going on with it?
Speaker 5 (06:55):
No?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Better?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Better yet, anyone who has my cell number when they're delayed,
I get.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Attached, Yeah, like, hey I'm delayed. Me an ho're delayed?
Like come on, I'm like this very special text. Thank
you for sending that to me. No, so I appreciate
the question.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
So I laid out shoot six months ago, how old
and antiquated are our air traffic control system is? And
it is we're using, you know, some iteration of nineteen sixties,
seventies eighties equipment software from the nineties, and so I
was given twelve and a half billion dollars in the
Big Beautiful Bill. It's a big deal. It's a lot
(07:30):
of money. I need another twenty billion, but with that
twelve and a half billion dollars, we've already started. So
you know, we have copper, we have to transition to fiber.
We've already completed over thirty percent of those transitions since
I got the money from the Big Beautiful Bill. Now
that doesn't mean because I have fiber, I've switched from
analog to digital. That's another step we're going to announce
(07:52):
later today. We're going to pick an integrator that's going
to run the whole operation. We'll have one paycheck to write,
one throat to choke. The mission is don't break the
national airspace. Number one and number two. Make sure that
you deliver this on time, which is by the end
of twenty twenty eight, So we have a three year window.
New radios, new radars, new voice switches, and all new telecom.
(08:14):
That's the foundation that we build off of. A we
need a new software system. Once I get the money
for that, I'll be able to start developing, debugging, and
then deploying it. That's what's going to really change the
way the airspace works.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
And so if you.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Look forward five to ten years, we're going to double
triple the capacity of the use of our airspace. We
have drones, we have these evatols, the ubers in the air.
You might have seen videos of those. More air travel.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Is that really I got to jump in on this
because I just saw something about the Miami Palm Beach Corridor,
so that really piqued my interest. Are we going to
have air taxis on certain routes during this Trump administration's term?
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Is that going to happen?
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Hundred percent?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
And I think they're safer and quieter and cheaper than
helicopter So yeah, I know that's you're going to move
people more seamlessly through the airspace with with these air taxis,
to use that phrase.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
And yes, the airspace aviation.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Really hasn't changed in the last seventy years eighty years.
This I mean with drone deliveries, you're going to be
able to get a hot cup of coffee your door
dash a delivery if you've forgot something of the grocery store,
or you need medicine three and a half to five
pound deliveries going to change the way products are delivered.
The way we move with these with these air taxes
(09:35):
is fairly inexpensive, and they move seamlessly through the airspace,
giving you access from one neighborhood to a city location.
Or you look at again this the east coast of
Florida moving people along that corridor. Really, I think critical
is going to change the way that people can live
in that part of the country. And then we also
(09:56):
have autonomous vehicles on the horizon as well. That's going
to change the way people move as well, how they
purchase cars, how our systems are safer. And our job
is to make sure that I call it my Goldilocks theory.
We can have regulations that go too fast because if
bad things happen, we get set back. If I go
too slow, the innovators will go to places like China,
(10:18):
and then China will send us Chinese technology. And you
don't want Chinese technology on an autonomous vehicle, in your
drones or in your vatols. They'll gather a ton of information.
It's a national security play. So we have to get
it just right. The porridge has to be just right,
and that's what we're trying to accomplish now, but.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
You're going to see these in the next three years.
All you're going to have access to all of.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
These new opportunities in aviation and in autonomous vehicles. One
last thing, boom technology for supersonic flight. It used to
be over just water. Technology now will allow you to
fly over land and that boom will ricochet off the
atmosphere and not hit the ground, so you can have
those fast flights with out having you know, windows break,
(11:02):
you know somewhere in Missouri.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
That's super interesting too, because I've been seeing that they want.
You know, people remember the Concord and how quickly you
could go from the East Coast to Europe and you know,
four hours, five hours best case. Now, this new boom
technology that you're talking about, I've been reading about it.
It would theoretically could become standard in the next generation
where you could get to Europe, you could fly across
the Atlantic in four hours, and it could become much
(11:26):
more standard. One one question for you as as you
go out, and we appreciate the time Department of Transportation
Secretary Sean Duffy with US air traffic controllers, there are
there have been a huge story surrounding the number of them,
meritaker see the talents of them. We got a ton
of people out there listening right now, kids, grandkids. How
many more air traffic controllers do we need? What should
(11:50):
people out there who are interested in these jobs and
believe they have the talents be doing? And how do
we get to the point where we have a depth?
So if we get guys who were sick or guys
who are sick, we don't have to worry about different
airport air traffic areas being shut down, which discombobulates obviously
travel nationwide.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
So give or take them about two thousand short. I
have increased the capacity of throughput in the academy where
we train our air traffic controllers by twenty percent this year.
I've asked experienced controllers not to retire. I'm paying them
twenty percent up front cash bonuses to not retire to
stay on the job, to try to close that gap.
But if you're twenty years old, you got two years
(12:31):
of work experience, and you want to be an air
traffic controller, you're smart. You can take our entrance exam.
And again, sometimes if you're a painter, if you're a mechanic,
there's no rhyme or reason of what makes a good
air traffic controller, but we test you for it.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
You come in. Our academy is four months, you come out.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Depending on where your placed, it could take a year
to three years to get certified. But these guys are
making they're making really good money and doing a really
important service to the country. So we're looking for smart
young men and women that want to come in into this uh,
into this industry. And and again that's it pays well
and you're you're you're providing the safety of the of
the traveling public. So we have a plan to close
(13:10):
the gap. Technology can help us too. But you saw
what happened during the shutdown, and you know, you had
air traffic controllers that weren't being paid and they were
having some hard times putting food on the table. They
were there were you know, driving uber and waiting tables.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I mean, you can't have that.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
So so we have to think through hard problems that
the last administration didn't want to take up, they didn't
want to consider. There's no hard problem in this department
that we aren't grappling with trying to fix. And whether
there's no plan to fix this when we are fixing
this and going to make it better for the American people.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Secret Jerry Duffie, look forward to seeing you tomorrow. Should
be an awesome event at the Kennedy Center. And UH
appreciate the good work and everybody out there. You just
heard it. There's lots of great jobs air traffic control,
UH that you can be searching out for those kids
and grandkids. Appreciate you man.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Thanks Jren have a good one.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
That is a Secretary of Transportation Sean Duffy. When we
come back, we'll unpack a little bit of what he said. Also,
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All right, welcome back in here to Clay and Buck.
We're gonna be joined by Congressman Steve Scalise, he's the
House Majority leader. In just a few minutes. A lot
to talk to him about. And we also are monitoring
very closely this FBI press conference where they're discussing the
erection of the alleged January fifth pipe bomber. Right, it
was right before January sixth, So we've got all of that.
(16:08):
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House looks really nice. I don't know specifically about Woodbridge.
I remember we lived in DC. A lot of northern
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Speaker 1 (19:00):
Come back in play. Travis buck Sexton show rolling through
the Thursday edition of the program, we're back to DC
to talk to House Majority Leader Steve Scalise. We got
a bunch of topics to hit with him, but let's
start with this. We're awaiting the press conference from the
FBI on the arrest of the pipe bomber in January
(19:21):
of twenty twenty one. You, as we were talking about
earlier on the program, Congressman, have seen firsthand the consequences
of political violence, and unfortunately, the number of political related
violence issues seem like they are accelerating. Is that the
sense that you have.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
And.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
How would you assess where we are right now in
terms of the temperature of the danger and the violence
that unfortunately, it could typifize too much of our conversation,
it feels like politically today, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (19:55):
Well, well, first play and Buck, thank you for having me.
And you know, it's sad to see that politics today
has gotten so toxic in terms of you know, we
all have disagreements, and I mean, our country has always
celebrated the fact that we don't all think alike and
we can express those differences in a free and open society.
And you know what, if you and I disagree, you
(20:16):
can vote against me at the ballot every two years.
We settle our differences at the ballot box. And for
anybody to think that political violence is okay, it's not.
And yes, I've seen it firsthand. You know, we still
see it more and more lately, and it's got to stop.
I mean, you know, Charlie Kurse's assassination, you know, was
just another example, but it's far from an isolated case.
(20:39):
And you know, the pipe bombing, I mean, it's said
that it took this long. I mean, it took years
to figure it out. But I'm glad. I applaud the
FBI for staying on the case and and for finally,
you know, making an arrest because you know, he intended
luckily wasn't successful, but he intended to blow up a building.
I mean, this is insane.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Congresson's glease, appreciate you being this here. What are some
of the key things that you think can get done
before Congress goes into recess? What is your what's your
focus as we're rounding up here at the end of
the year in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
Yeah, you know, as we're in the beginning of December,
still a lot more we want to do by the
end of this year in just the next few weeks.
You know, we're in the middle of putting together a
bill on healthcare that a lower healthcare costs for families.
You know, I was in a meeting this morning with
the Doctor's Caucus. We have a caucus of medical doctors
who serve in Congress, have some great ideas. I've been
(21:34):
meeting with other members over the last few weeks and
we've put together a package of bills and we're going
to ultimately bring this to the floor soon. I don't
even know exactly when. In the next prib two weeks,
we're building consensus, and once we have that consensus, you're
going to see a series of bills this month in
December on the House floor to lower healthcare costs. And
(21:55):
I'm not talking about just shoveling hundreds of billions more
dollars into the four Care Act that has not been
working for families. I mean, since that law passed, you know,
it's known as Obamacare, you've seen an increase in premiums
on families by eighty percent. So clearly the Affordable Care
Act has been anything but affordable. What we want to
do is get families options, you know, allow you to
(22:18):
do things like pooling together association health plans so that
small businesses can pull together and get the buying power
of a large company, so that those premiums cost a
lot less. Things like health savings accounts where you can
even if you're in an ACA plan right now, you're
only trapped in that plan. How about if we let
families have the flexibility to where you can take that
(22:41):
existing money and move it to a plan that's better
for your family. If you find a plan that has
a lower deductible cost, a lower monthly premium, you should
be able to go and buy that plan, just like
you got buy You know, you look on TV. You've
got all these commercials for car insurance and other products
that are fighting for your dollar because there's competition. Right
(23:04):
now in health insurance, you don't have competition because the
marketplace is really focused on forcing everybody into the Unaffordable
Care Act. We want to make that more flexible so
families have options to lower their premiums, and we'll be
bringing those bills to the floor in the next few weeks.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
By the way, press conference has started with the FBI,
we are monitoring Attorney General Pambondi addressing the arrest right now.
Speaker 7 (23:31):
And by the way, there are other there are a
lot of other bills. I'm sorry to jump in again,
but you did ask a broader question about what are
we doing the rest of this month. That's one important
package we're going to be bringing. We're bringing a number
of other bills. We've got some housing affordability bills that
are going to be going through committee next week and
the Financial Services Committee that come into the House floor
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this month. Probably. We've got some other bills that are
focused on lower and costs in other areas. We've done
a lot on energy production, on tax is so that
nobody has tax increases, but we also help no tax
on tips, no tax on overtime, so a lot of
blue collar workers are going to be able to get
really big benefits in terms of more money in their paychecks.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
You know.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
We're working on other things that will lower inflation, lowering
interest rates, you know. So we're bringing bills on all
of those fronts. In addition to the normal appropriations process,
we're bringing what's called the National Defense Authorization Act, hopefully
next week, the bill that sets all the priorities for
a nation's defense. Very important bill, usually a very bipartisan bill.
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Hopefully that's going to be on the floor next week.
So we're doing a lot of different things all at
the same time, but really important things for families.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Pambondi, By the way, this cold case languished four years
until Director Patel and Deputy Director Bongino came to the FBI.
No new tips, no new witness, is just good diligent work.
That is Attorney General Pambondi on the Pipe Bomber arrest.
Last question for you, Rate. I know, Congressman, there was
hope that there was going to be a score Act
passed as it had to do with college athletics. That
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has now been shelved as it's continuing to be worked on.
You are in Louisiana, congrats on Lane Kiffin. For people
out there and a huge majority of our audience is
this are college sports fans. What are you guys trying
to do and what's the latest you can tell us
on that act?
Speaker 7 (25:20):
Yeah, and I still want to see us bring this
bill to the floor because it's important to anybody who
loves college athletics. You know me included, I know you
do in many people millions around the country have seen
over the last few years, it's become the wild wild West.
And why is that. It's because, through a lot of things,
lawsuits that the NCAA is lost, and other things, there
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is no ability for schools to enforce their own rules anymore,
you know. And whether they come together and get behind
the NCAA or some other organization, that's not what Congress
is dictating. What Congress is going to try to do
is say, hey, the schools can actually go in and
force their own rules again in college athletics. And oh,
by the way, we also in the Score Act put
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in protections for student athletes that don't exist today. You know,
whether or not students get paid, that issue has already
been decided. But right now there are no real protections
for the students who are getting paid. For example, agents.
You've got kids sixteen seventeen years old in high school
getting approached by agents with contracts that they I'm sure
(26:26):
they're not getting teams of attorneys to read. They might
be signing their rights away for ten years when they
signed some deal in high school. We put guardrails there
so that the students get real protections, so that it
limits how much an agent can even get in fees.
From the student athlete. We protect the Olympic sports. The
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US Olympic Committee just came out in support of this
bill to Score Act because it does protect Olympic sports
and other you know, women's sports, you know Title nine
sports for example. So won't just be football and back
basketball at every college. You're going to be able to
have an array of men's and women's sports that are
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some make money, a lot of them lose money. But
you're going to be able to have those protections in
place at schools as well. So it's an important bill
that a lot of universities across the country have asked for. Again,
not Congress beliefing college athletics, but Congress passing a law
to just undo all of these bad lawsuits that have
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been lost over years and years, so that college athletics
can be governed again. You know, a portal where every
year kid can transfer and somebody can play for six
years for five different schools and oh, by the way,
they're supposed to be getting an education, but they can't
even transfer their credits because it's gotten so ridiculous. That
can get rained in as well. And I think everybody
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wants some structure back in place.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Thank you, Congressman Steve Scalise. Look forward to seeing you again,
having you again on soon. Keep up the good work.
Speaker 7 (27:57):
Hey, We're going to keep getting it done, but we're
going to deliver a lot of good things American people.
Thank you for having me, Clay Bucks, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Look, we'll monitor and we're continuing with the FBI press conference.
We may go to it live when we come back
out of the next break. We'll certainly have cuts for you.
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Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We're going to join
this FBI press conference right now. Darren Cox at the
FBI Washington Field Office is speaking.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Let's hear what he's saying.
Speaker 8 (29:34):
In our partners. I know some people had given up
on finding the perpetrator, but not the FBI and not
our partners. We do not forget, We do not give up,
and we do not relent. Though it had been nearly
five years, our team continued to churn through massive amounts
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of data and tips that we used to identify this suspect.
I want to thank Director Patel and Deputy Director Bongino
for their leadership and for barbiding us the resources and
the personnel to reevaluate all of the data that we had.
(30:16):
We dove into more than three million lines of data
to come up with this suspect. Director Patel, Deputy Director Bongino,
thank you for your support, thank you for your passion,
and thank you for your investment in this investigation. From
me on behalf of the investigators, the Washington Field Office,
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and all of our partners, thank you. I'd also like
to thank Judge Piro. Judge your team and you are
absolutely amazing. You're the type of prosecutors and US attorneys,
US attorney that all of the investigators across the country
want to work with. They're hard nos and they're aggressive,
and thank you for that. I'd also like to thank
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the American public, the American Okay, I think we've kind
of that they gave us.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
We'll play for you the opening statement coming up here
in a few minutes from Cash Bettel, the FBI director
and Deputy Director Bongino also spoke. Now we're in the
This is now just pretty much all thanks and we're
continuing to monitor this. But Clay a few things of
a quick reaction to this. I get the sense that
they are darn sure that they have the guy, because
(31:30):
you don't want to hold the press conference congratulating everybody
for your great investigative work if you don't have the guy. Now,
presumption of innocent still applies alleged all of that. But
I'm just saying, this is not likely to be a
situation where in a week that's like, you know, it
turns out this guy actually was in uh was in
Topeka on that night.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
And look, I mean, here is some of the early
stuff that is coming out about this alleged pipe bomber.
He is thirty years old, still living at home. Some
people place stop hammering this living at home guy things.
I just if you're thirty and you're a dude and
you live at home, then I think you've kind of
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failed to launch. Would just be my take. He does
not appear in any way to be a Trump supporter.
So this whole idea that they tried to put together
of hey, look, this is all directly connected to January sixth.
This is how much of an insurrection it was. They
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had pipe bombs that they were trying to put out.
To me, one of the most intriguing I think. In fact,
we have the opening statement from Pambondi. So let's go
ahead and play that. If we could judge, Jennine Piro
is up at the is up in the mic right now.
But let's play pam Bondi's opening statement.
Speaker 9 (32:52):
Early this morning, Brian Cole Junior was arrested and charged
with placing the pipe bombs at the RNC and the
DNC on January fifth, twenty twenty one. He has been
charged with violating eighteen USC. Eight forty four, which is
use of an explosive device. This investigation is ongoing as
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we speak. Search warrants are being executed and there could
be more charges to come. I'm going to let our
US attorney discuss that shortly. This was the work of
multiple agencies working together. This morning's operation was carried out
safely and successfully. We know that there is there are
so many issues when you're issuing search warrants. Dangerous things
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can happen, and this was carried out safely and secure
securely thanks to all of the people standing around me.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Okay, so a couple of things that are out there
about this guy. Brian Cole Junior living at home with
his parents. Parents dad is a bail bondsman. Reportedly mom
is a real estate agent. Grandma has been found, and
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she says, boy, we had no idea. I guess it
would be a surprise if you knew your grandson was
a potential pipe bomber. I don't imagine most grandparents out
there would expect that to be the outcome. But I
think the most significant part of this, and we'll talk
about this with Julie Kelly at two thirty, is that
they said, basically, there wasn't a desire to catch this guy.
(34:31):
I'm paraphrasing that they went back over all of the evidence.
Dan Bongino and Cash Ptel said we're going to get
this guy when they came in. And it appears assuming
that this is the right guy, and everybody has a
presumption of innocence in all cases such as these. But
again to Buck's point, you've brought the entire totality of
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the Attorney General, the head of the FBI, the chief
prosecuting attorney in Washington, d C, all these people through
the press conference. They have to be very, very confident
that they have got the right guy. Thirty years old
would have only been around twenty five years old when
this happened. And again I think it's going to go
(35:16):
shatter some of the narrative out there that they wanted
to create that this was a huge insurrection. Remember Buck,
the fact that there were pipe bombs involved weapons is
incredibly key to the narrative that Jan six was an insurrection,
that it was the worst day our nation has seen
since the Civil War. That was the actual argument made
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by Joe Biden and by Kamala Harris, and that there
were pipe bombs being brought to bear and all these
different things. I remember they've claimed, what do they say
six different police officers were killed, when the reality is
the only person who died on that day was the
Air Force veteran who was trying to Ashley Babbitt actually
Babbitt Yah, Yeah, but literally there were zero deaths. They
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tried to say six people died. They've taken heart attacks
that happened weeks months afterwards and said this is connected
to Jan six. So we will talk about all of
this with Julie Kelly in the next hour. Press conference
still ongoing. Pam Bondi is still speaking. We will monitor
and make sure that we get all of the details
correct for you from this press conference. In the next hour.
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We'll also take your calls eight hundred and two A
two eight eight two. You can react too many of
the different topics that we have been engaged in so far,
and we'll have some fun third hour of the program
coming up next.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Looking forward to it. Everybody, line up those lines eight
hundred two two two eight a two. We'll have some
of the most important parts of this press conference. Continue
to bring that to you, get your calls, get your talkbacks,
and that's where we're heading next.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
So stick around. We'll be back with you in just
a moment.
Welcome back in nour number two Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.
Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We are
monitoring the soon to be press conference from the FBI
about an arrest in the DC pipe bomb case. We
will keep you updated on that in DC as well.
We are joined now by Secretary Sean Duffy. I am
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headed to DC a little bit later this afternoon for
the big event at the Kennedy Center tomorrow with the
World Cup coming to the United States. It is going
to be an incredible scene. I know there are many
different things that you are working on on a variety
of different arenas every single day, but this is a
fun one. Secretary Sean Duffy with us right now. What
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should we know about this big event that is starting
in June and will officially be laid out bracket style
to a large extent tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
So first off, when I imagine here, you're not driving,
so hopefully your flight is going to be not delayed
on time.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
You're going to be you know, perfect air time.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I can't control the weather, but beyond that and hopefully
you're in a good place listen.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
So this is exciting.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
So tomorrow we'll have thousands of people, including yourself at
the Counity Center.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I'm going to be there as well.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
But a billion people tune in for the draw around
the world to see, you know, what team is going
to play, what team, where it's going to be, you know, fantastic.
Donald Trump is going to be there, that the President
of Mexico is going to be there as well.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
So that's really exciting.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
And as we look to the summer again we're celebrating
in America's two hundred and fiftieth birthday. Exciting, and the
World Cup is going to come. There'll be eleven million
people that fly into the country to watch the games.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
And again from.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
My perspective, why is DOT involved, Well, we're one of
the most important aspects. So not only welcoming you know,
foreign travelers into the country, working with Christy Nome and
Marco Rubio to make it a seamless experience, but then
they're flying between host cities, they're taking trains, buses, and
then in the cities, making sure the transit actually works buses, railcars, tracks,
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to make sure that we get all of these spectators
into the facilities and then back out out again.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Do it safely do it seamlessly.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
This is our opportunity to showcase America on our great birthday.
And so listen, we've been working for shift nine months
on this thing to make sure that all of our
teams are working together in resources and assets are deployed
to make sure it's a great experience for what is
going to be a global event.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
What kind of money, Secretary Duffy, does this bring into
the country. What are some of the estimates about the
economic activity and just all of that side of things.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I don't have those numbers, but listen, this is billions
of dollars that come in. You fill up, you fill
up hotels, you fill up planes, restaurants, and.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Then you know there's time between you know, each of
the matches.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
So there's an opportunity for foreigners who might might might
become to America for the first time to go out
and see our beautiful country, a lot of places to
go check out and to where as you're you know,
waiting for the next match. So again, many billions of
dollars this is going to impact the country, and so
it's that that part of it's huge. By the way,
can I tell you mean Donald Trump loves sports, right,
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whether he's going, you know, to basketball, football, but so
not as we have the World Cup going on during
the two hundred and fifieth birthday, he has a UFC
cage match first time at.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
The White House going on as well.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
So it's going to be a lot of fun but
a huge economic revenue driver for the country.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
And by the way, so.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
You have people coming into to watch soccer, but you know,
who knows how many times they come back to go
This was a great experience in America.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
And I think here's the problem.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
We have a lot of a lot of people around
the world who have said, am I welcome to come
to America. They've seen that people have overstayed their visas
or they've come here legally, and we've tried to deport them.
We've taken those who haven't come awfully sent them out.
That doesn't mean we don't want people to come. Of course,
we want people to come. We want them to come
the right way and come and visit and come and
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see all we have to offer and then follow our rules.
And there's a timeline in which they get their VSAs
and you know, which will be well after the games
have ended and they.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Can head home. But so now we want people to come.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
For people who don't know. And I've been doing my
research on this because I turn into a pretty decent
soccer fan every four years, because I'm a big sports fan.
There are one hundred and four games I believe that
are going to be played. We're talking Department of Transportation
Secretary Sean Duffy. The vast majority of those games are
going to be played in the United States, and there
are now forty eight teams that are going to that
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are going to be involved in the World Cup. They've
expanded it from thirty two. Tomorrow we will find out
which of the twelve groups of four the United States
is in among other countries. Do you know what President
Trump's role is going to be tomorrow? It's taking place
at the Kennedy Center. This is in many ways a
Trump production. Fox Sports is going to be putting it on.
(05:04):
Like you said, I'll be there. There'll be a ton
of us there. What do you know about the event tomorrow?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
So I'll get to that in a second.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
But again, there's there's sixteen host cities, eleven or in
the United States. We are the main the main host,
and so it's it's gonna be a big production. Again,
I'm going as well. I hear it's like red carpet
and everyone's coming in, and it's the production value. And
by the way, no one produces events like this better
than Donald Trump. I think he's maybe a master of ceremonies,
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going to address the crowd, you know, before the draws happened.
And again he's the most famous person in the world.
And to be there lending his name the presidency to
this great event, I think makes it that much more
exciting and interesting. But again, the world tunes in because
they're excited to see you know what group they're going
to be in.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
You know who they're going to play. And do I
have an easy bracket a hard bracket? You know what
are you know what's uh?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
What's my prospects now for my team to prevail in
the World Cup. So again the details, I'm showing up, Buck,
you playing no more than I mean, Clay, you know
more than I do. I'm coming, but I don't know.
I'm just I'm bringing my scarf and I'm gonna be
there and I'm gonna enjoy the festivities and and pick
it up.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Like you will.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Secretary Sean Duffy with us now Secretary of Transportation. And
I'm sure this is your favorite question, mister Secretary. I'm
sure that everywhere you go, when everyone realizes who you
are and then you're asking what's up?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
My favorite question is a bad lead up to.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
The Oh yeah, no, I trust me.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
So how are we doing with the whole fixing air
traffic control and making planes go on time?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Mister secretary?
Speaker 4 (06:43):
You know this is something near and dear to everybody
who flies all over the Country's hard, and I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
People ask you.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
I'm sure you get asked at the Thanksgiving table, you
get asked at the airport when you're.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Flying, what's going on with it?
Speaker 5 (06:55):
No?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Better?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Better yet, anyone who has my cell number when they're delayed,
I get.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Attached, Yeah, like, hey I'm delayed. Me an ho're delayed?
Like come on, I'm like this very special text. Thank
you for sending that to me. No, so I appreciate
the question.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
So I laid out shoot six months ago, how old
and antiquated are our air traffic control system is? And
it is we're using, you know, some iteration of nineteen sixties,
seventies eighties equipment software from the nineties, and so I
was given twelve and a half billion dollars in the
Big Beautiful Bill. It's a big deal. It's a lot
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of money. I need another twenty billion, but with that
twelve and a half billion dollars, we've already started. So
you know, we have copper, we have to transition to fiber.
We've already completed over thirty percent of those transitions since
I got the money from the Big Beautiful Bill. Now
that doesn't mean because I have fiber, I've switched from
analog to digital. That's another step we're going to announce
(07:52):
later today. We're going to pick an integrator that's going
to run the whole operation. We'll have one paycheck to write,
one throat to choke. The mission is don't break the
national airspace. Number one and number two. Make sure that
you deliver this on time, which is by the end
of twenty twenty eight, So we have a three year window.
New radios, new radars, new voice switches, and all new telecom.
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That's the foundation that we build off of. A we
need a new software system. Once I get the money
for that, I'll be able to start developing, debugging, and
then deploying it. That's what's going to really change the
way the airspace works.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
And so if you.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Look forward five to ten years, we're going to double
triple the capacity of the use of our airspace. We
have drones, we have these evatols, the ubers in the air.
You might have seen videos of those. More air travel.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Is that really I got to jump in on this
because I just saw something about the Miami Palm Beach Corridor,
so that really piqued my interest. Are we going to
have air taxis on certain routes during this Trump administration's term?
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Is that going to happen?
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Hundred percent?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
And I think they're safer and quieter and cheaper than
helicopter So yeah, I know that's you're going to move
people more seamlessly through the airspace with with these air taxis,
to use that phrase.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
And yes, the airspace aviation.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Really hasn't changed in the last seventy years eighty years.
This I mean with drone deliveries, you're going to be
able to get a hot cup of coffee your door
dash a delivery if you've forgot something of the grocery store,
or you need medicine three and a half to five
pound deliveries going to change the way products are delivered.
The way we move with these with these air taxes
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is fairly inexpensive, and they move seamlessly through the airspace,
giving you access from one neighborhood to a city location.
Or you look at again this the east coast of
Florida moving people along that corridor. Really, I think critical
is going to change the way that people can live
in that part of the country. And then we also
(09:56):
have autonomous vehicles on the horizon as well. That's going
to change the way people move as well, how they
purchase cars, how our systems are safer. And our job
is to make sure that I call it my Goldilocks theory.
We can have regulations that go too fast because if
bad things happen, we get set back. If I go
too slow, the innovators will go to places like China,
(10:18):
and then China will send us Chinese technology. And you
don't want Chinese technology on an autonomous vehicle, in your
drones or in your vatols. They'll gather a ton of information.
It's a national security play. So we have to get
it just right. The porridge has to be just right,
and that's what we're trying to accomplish now, but.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
You're going to see these in the next three years.
All you're going to have access to all of.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
These new opportunities in aviation and in autonomous vehicles. One
last thing, boom technology for supersonic flight. It used to
be over just water. Technology now will allow you to
fly over land and that boom will ricochet off the
atmosphere and not hit the ground, so you can have
those fast flights with out having you know, windows break,
(11:02):
you know somewhere in Missouri.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
That's super interesting too, because I've been seeing that they want.
You know, people remember the Concord and how quickly you
could go from the East Coast to Europe and you know,
four hours, five hours best case. Now, this new boom
technology that you're talking about, I've been reading about it.
It would theoretically could become standard in the next generation
where you could get to Europe, you could fly across
the Atlantic in four hours, and it could become much
(11:26):
more standard. One one question for you as as you
go out, and we appreciate the time Department of Transportation
Secretary Sean Duffy with US air traffic controllers, there are
there have been a huge story surrounding the number of them,
meritaker see the talents of them. We got a ton
of people out there listening right now, kids, grandkids. How
many more air traffic controllers do we need? What should
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people out there who are interested in these jobs and
believe they have the talents be doing? And how do
we get to the point where we have a depth?
So if we get guys who were sick or guys
who are sick, we don't have to worry about different
airport air traffic areas being shut down, which discombobulates obviously
travel nationwide.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
So give or take them about two thousand short. I
have increased the capacity of throughput in the academy where
we train our air traffic controllers by twenty percent this year.
I've asked experienced controllers not to retire. I'm paying them
twenty percent up front cash bonuses to not retire to
stay on the job, to try to close that gap.
But if you're twenty years old, you got two years
(12:31):
of work experience, and you want to be an air
traffic controller, you're smart. You can take our entrance exam.
And again, sometimes if you're a painter, if you're a mechanic,
there's no rhyme or reason of what makes a good
air traffic controller, but we test you for it.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
You come in. Our academy is four months, you come out.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Depending on where your placed, it could take a year
to three years to get certified. But these guys are
making they're making really good money and doing a really
important service to the country. So we're looking for smart
young men and women that want to come in into this uh,
into this industry. And and again that's it pays well
and you're you're you're providing the safety of the of
the traveling public. So we have a plan to close
(13:10):
the gap. Technology can help us too. But you saw
what happened during the shutdown, and you know, you had
air traffic controllers that weren't being paid and they were
having some hard times putting food on the table. They
were there were you know, driving uber and waiting tables.
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All right, welcome back in here to Clay and Buck.
We're gonna be joined by Congressman Steve Scalise, he's the
House Majority leader. In just a few minutes. A lot
to talk to him about. And we also are monitoring
very closely this FBI press conference where they're discussing the
erection of the alleged January fifth pipe bomber. Right, it
was right before January sixth, So we've got all of that.
(16:08):
Also a lot of talkbacks coming in and wanted to
hear from you with those. Here is a listener from Melbourne, Florida.
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but it got run down with the illegals and it
is a disaster. That's why I left.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
House looks really nice. I don't know specifically about Woodbridge.
I remember we lived in DC. A lot of northern
Virginia is very nice, high end, expensive area and the
home that this person is in certainly looked, certainly look nice.
By the way, this is funny. Let's have some fun here. Uh.
This is Eric in Tucson. He's got a take on Linda.
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Hey, guys, love the show. I just want to say,
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If he dies, he dies, that's great.
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Linda might even be more hardcore than that. She's like,
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Uh yeah, I like the Colonel Jessup Linda Jessup there
one of the great all time scenes. A few good men.
We need Linda on that wall, we need Lynda on
that wall. It's true. Older you get Jessup. Maybe not
that actually of a bad guy.
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Not really, not really that Yeah, that's a whole other conversation.
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Come back in play. Travis buck Sexton show rolling through
the Thursday edition of the program, we're back to DC
to talk to House Majority Leader Steve Scalise. We got
a bunch of topics to hit with him, but let's
start with this. We're awaiting the press conference from the
FBI on the arrest of the pipe bomber in January
(19:21):
of twenty twenty one. You, as we were talking about
earlier on the program, Congressman, have seen firsthand the consequences
of political violence, and unfortunately, the number of political related
violence issues seem like they are accelerating. Is that the
sense that you have.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
And.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
How would you assess where we are right now in
terms of the temperature of the danger and the violence
that unfortunately, it could typifize too much of our conversation,
it feels like politically today, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (19:55):
Well, well, first play and Buck, thank you for having me.
And you know, it's sad to see that politics today
has gotten so toxic in terms of you know, we
all have disagreements, and I mean, our country has always
celebrated the fact that we don't all think alike and
we can express those differences in a free and open society.
And you know what, if you and I disagree, you
(20:16):
can vote against me at the ballot every two years.
We settle our differences at the ballot box. And for
anybody to think that political violence is okay, it's not.
And yes, I've seen it firsthand. You know, we still
see it more and more lately, and it's got to stop.
I mean, you know, Charlie Kurse's assassination, you know, was
just another example, but it's far from an isolated case.
(20:39):
And you know, the pipe bombing, I mean, it's said
that it took this long. I mean, it took years
to figure it out. But I'm glad. I applaud the
FBI for staying on the case and and for finally,
you know, making an arrest because you know, he intended
luckily wasn't successful, but he intended to blow up a building.
I mean, this is insane.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Congresson's glease, appreciate you being this here. What are some
of the key things that you think can get done
before Congress goes into recess? What is your what's your
focus as we're rounding up here at the end of
the year in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
Yeah, you know, as we're in the beginning of December,
still a lot more we want to do by the
end of this year in just the next few weeks.
You know, we're in the middle of putting together a
bill on healthcare that a lower healthcare costs for families.
You know, I was in a meeting this morning with
the Doctor's Caucus. We have a caucus of medical doctors
who serve in Congress, have some great ideas. I've been
(21:34):
meeting with other members over the last few weeks and
we've put together a package of bills and we're going
to ultimately bring this to the floor soon. I don't
even know exactly when. In the next prib two weeks,
we're building consensus, and once we have that consensus, you're
going to see a series of bills this month in
December on the House floor to lower healthcare costs. And
(21:55):
I'm not talking about just shoveling hundreds of billions more
dollars into the four Care Act that has not been
working for families. I mean, since that law passed, you know,
it's known as Obamacare, you've seen an increase in premiums
on families by eighty percent. So clearly the Affordable Care
Act has been anything but affordable. What we want to
do is get families options, you know, allow you to
(22:18):
do things like pooling together association health plans so that
small businesses can pull together and get the buying power
of a large company, so that those premiums cost a
lot less. Things like health savings accounts where you can
even if you're in an ACA plan right now, you're
only trapped in that plan. How about if we let
families have the flexibility to where you can take that
(22:41):
existing money and move it to a plan that's better
for your family. If you find a plan that has
a lower deductible cost, a lower monthly premium, you should
be able to go and buy that plan, just like
you got buy You know, you look on TV. You've
got all these commercials for car insurance and other products
that are fighting for your dollar because there's competition. Right
(23:04):
now in health insurance, you don't have competition because the
marketplace is really focused on forcing everybody into the Unaffordable
Care Act. We want to make that more flexible so
families have options to lower their premiums, and we'll be
bringing those bills to the floor in the next few weeks.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
By the way, press conference has started with the FBI,
we are monitoring Attorney General Pambondi addressing the arrest right now.
Speaker 7 (23:31):
And by the way, there are other there are a
lot of other bills. I'm sorry to jump in again,
but you did ask a broader question about what are
we doing the rest of this month. That's one important
package we're going to be bringing. We're bringing a number
of other bills. We've got some housing affordability bills that
are going to be going through committee next week and
the Financial Services Committee that come into the House floor
(23:52):
this month. Probably. We've got some other bills that are
focused on lower and costs in other areas. We've done
a lot on energy production, on tax is so that
nobody has tax increases, but we also help no tax
on tips, no tax on overtime, so a lot of
blue collar workers are going to be able to get
really big benefits in terms of more money in their paychecks.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
You know.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
We're working on other things that will lower inflation, lowering
interest rates, you know. So we're bringing bills on all
of those fronts. In addition to the normal appropriations process,
we're bringing what's called the National Defense Authorization Act, hopefully
next week, the bill that sets all the priorities for
a nation's defense. Very important bill, usually a very bipartisan bill.
(24:33):
Hopefully that's going to be on the floor next week.
So we're doing a lot of different things all at
the same time, but really important things for families.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Pambondi, By the way, this cold case languished four years
until Director Patel and Deputy Director Bongino came to the FBI.
No new tips, no new witness, is just good diligent work.
That is Attorney General Pambondi on the Pipe Bomber arrest.
Last question for you, Rate. I know, Congressman, there was
hope that there was going to be a score Act
passed as it had to do with college athletics. That
(25:04):
has now been shelved as it's continuing to be worked on.
You are in Louisiana, congrats on Lane Kiffin. For people
out there and a huge majority of our audience is
this are college sports fans. What are you guys trying
to do and what's the latest you can tell us
on that act?
Speaker 7 (25:20):
Yeah, and I still want to see us bring this
bill to the floor because it's important to anybody who
loves college athletics. You know me included, I know you
do in many people millions around the country have seen
over the last few years, it's become the wild wild West.
And why is that. It's because, through a lot of things,
lawsuits that the NCAA is lost, and other things, there
(25:43):
is no ability for schools to enforce their own rules anymore,
you know. And whether they come together and get behind
the NCAA or some other organization, that's not what Congress
is dictating. What Congress is going to try to do
is say, hey, the schools can actually go in and
force their own rules again in college athletics. And oh,
by the way, we also in the Score Act put
(26:05):
in protections for student athletes that don't exist today. You know,
whether or not students get paid, that issue has already
been decided. But right now there are no real protections
for the students who are getting paid. For example, agents.
You've got kids sixteen seventeen years old in high school
getting approached by agents with contracts that they I'm sure
(26:26):
they're not getting teams of attorneys to read. They might
be signing their rights away for ten years when they
signed some deal in high school. We put guardrails there
so that the students get real protections, so that it
limits how much an agent can even get in fees.
From the student athlete. We protect the Olympic sports. The
(26:46):
US Olympic Committee just came out in support of this
bill to Score Act because it does protect Olympic sports
and other you know, women's sports, you know Title nine
sports for example. So won't just be football and back
basketball at every college. You're going to be able to
have an array of men's and women's sports that are
(27:06):
some make money, a lot of them lose money. But
you're going to be able to have those protections in
place at schools as well. So it's an important bill
that a lot of universities across the country have asked for. Again,
not Congress beliefing college athletics, but Congress passing a law
to just undo all of these bad lawsuits that have
(27:27):
been lost over years and years, so that college athletics
can be governed again. You know, a portal where every
year kid can transfer and somebody can play for six
years for five different schools and oh, by the way,
they're supposed to be getting an education, but they can't
even transfer their credits because it's gotten so ridiculous. That
can get rained in as well. And I think everybody
(27:47):
wants some structure back in place.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Thank you, Congressman Steve Scalise. Look forward to seeing you again,
having you again on soon. Keep up the good work.
Speaker 7 (27:57):
Hey, We're going to keep getting it done, but we're
going to deliver a lot of good things American people.
Thank you for having me, Clay Bucks, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Look, we'll monitor and we're continuing with the FBI press conference.
We may go to it live when we come back
out of the next break. We'll certainly have cuts for you.
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Speaker 4 (29:26):
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We're going to join
this FBI press conference right now. Darren Cox at the
FBI Washington Field Office is speaking.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Let's hear what he's saying.
Speaker 8 (29:34):
In our partners. I know some people had given up
on finding the perpetrator, but not the FBI and not
our partners. We do not forget, We do not give up,
and we do not relent. Though it had been nearly
five years, our team continued to churn through massive amounts
(29:55):
of data and tips that we used to identify this suspect.
I want to thank Director Patel and Deputy Director Bongino
for their leadership and for barbiding us the resources and
the personnel to reevaluate all of the data that we had.
(30:16):
We dove into more than three million lines of data
to come up with this suspect. Director Patel, Deputy Director Bongino,
thank you for your support, thank you for your passion,
and thank you for your investment in this investigation. From
me on behalf of the investigators, the Washington Field Office,
(30:38):
and all of our partners, thank you. I'd also like
to thank Judge Piro. Judge your team and you are
absolutely amazing. You're the type of prosecutors and US attorneys,
US attorney that all of the investigators across the country
want to work with. They're hard nos and they're aggressive,
and thank you for that. I'd also like to thank
(31:01):
the American public, the American Okay, I think we've kind
of that they gave us.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
We'll play for you the opening statement coming up here
in a few minutes from Cash Bettel, the FBI director
and Deputy Director Bongino also spoke. Now we're in the
This is now just pretty much all thanks and we're
continuing to monitor this. But Clay a few things of
a quick reaction to this. I get the sense that
they are darn sure that they have the guy, because
(31:30):
you don't want to hold the press conference congratulating everybody
for your great investigative work if you don't have the guy. Now,
presumption of innocent still applies alleged all of that. But
I'm just saying, this is not likely to be a
situation where in a week that's like, you know, it
turns out this guy actually was in uh was in
Topeka on that night.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
And look, I mean, here is some of the early
stuff that is coming out about this alleged pipe bomber.
He is thirty years old, still living at home. Some
people place stop hammering this living at home guy things.
I just if you're thirty and you're a dude and
you live at home, then I think you've kind of
(32:13):
failed to launch. Would just be my take. He does
not appear in any way to be a Trump supporter.
So this whole idea that they tried to put together
of hey, look, this is all directly connected to January sixth.
This is how much of an insurrection it was. They
(32:34):
had pipe bombs that they were trying to put out.
To me, one of the most intriguing I think. In fact,
we have the opening statement from Pambondi. So let's go
ahead and play that. If we could judge, Jennine Piro
is up at the is up in the mic right now.
But let's play pam Bondi's opening statement.
Speaker 9 (32:52):
Early this morning, Brian Cole Junior was arrested and charged
with placing the pipe bombs at the RNC and the
DNC on January fifth, twenty twenty one. He has been
charged with violating eighteen USC. Eight forty four, which is
use of an explosive device. This investigation is ongoing as
(33:16):
we speak. Search warrants are being executed and there could
be more charges to come. I'm going to let our
US attorney discuss that shortly. This was the work of
multiple agencies working together. This morning's operation was carried out
safely and successfully. We know that there is there are
so many issues when you're issuing search warrants. Dangerous things
(33:41):
can happen, and this was carried out safely and secure
securely thanks to all of the people standing around me.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Okay, so a couple of things that are out there
about this guy. Brian Cole Junior living at home with
his parents. Parents dad is a bail bondsman. Reportedly mom
is a real estate agent. Grandma has been found, and
(34:10):
she says, boy, we had no idea. I guess it
would be a surprise if you knew your grandson was
a potential pipe bomber. I don't imagine most grandparents out
there would expect that to be the outcome. But I
think the most significant part of this, and we'll talk
about this with Julie Kelly at two thirty, is that
they said, basically, there wasn't a desire to catch this guy.
(34:31):
I'm paraphrasing that they went back over all of the evidence.
Dan Bongino and Cash Ptel said we're going to get
this guy when they came in. And it appears assuming
that this is the right guy, and everybody has a
presumption of innocence in all cases such as these. But
again to Buck's point, you've brought the entire totality of
(34:54):
the Attorney General, the head of the FBI, the chief
prosecuting attorney in Washington, d C, all these people through
the press conference. They have to be very, very confident
that they have got the right guy. Thirty years old
would have only been around twenty five years old when
this happened. And again I think it's going to go
(35:16):
shatter some of the narrative out there that they wanted
to create that this was a huge insurrection. Remember Buck,
the fact that there were pipe bombs involved weapons is
incredibly key to the narrative that Jan six was an insurrection,
that it was the worst day our nation has seen
since the Civil War. That was the actual argument made
(35:40):
by Joe Biden and by Kamala Harris, and that there
were pipe bombs being brought to bear and all these
different things. I remember they've claimed, what do they say
six different police officers were killed, when the reality is
the only person who died on that day was the
Air Force veteran who was trying to Ashley Babbitt actually
Babbitt Yah, Yeah, but literally there were zero deaths. They
(36:03):
tried to say six people died. They've taken heart attacks
that happened weeks months afterwards and said this is connected
to Jan six. So we will talk about all of
this with Julie Kelly in the next hour. Press conference
still ongoing. Pam Bondi is still speaking. We will monitor
and make sure that we get all of the details
correct for you from this press conference. In the next hour.
(36:24):
We'll also take your calls eight hundred and two A
two eight eight two. You can react too many of
the different topics that we have been engaged in so far,
and we'll have some fun third hour of the program
coming up next.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Looking forward to it. Everybody, line up those lines eight
hundred two two two eight a two. We'll have some
of the most important parts of this press conference. Continue
to bring that to you, get your calls, get your talkbacks,
and that's where we're heading next.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
So stick around. We'll be back with you in just
a moment.
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