May 24, 2024 • 36 mins
Author, columnist and crime expert Heather Mac Donald joined Clay and Buck to discuss the outrageous California crime law, the DEI disaster and the ongoing war on cops. Holiday weekend travel. Ohio Governor DeWine calls special session to make sure Biden gets on ballot. Garland claims the use of force authorization for Mar-a-Lago raid was normal and used during search at Biden's beach house. Ohio GOP U.S. Senate nominee Bernie Moreno joins C&B.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Second hour, Clay and Buck kicks off. Now we are
joined by the one and only Heather McDonald, Manhattan and
Stude fellow, author of When Race Trump's Merit. She has
a fascinating and really unsettling peace in City Journal California's
looming crime catastrophe. Recent legislation makes it easier for felons
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to claim racial bias. We want to talking about this
and also the UCLA Medical School revelations.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
The first walk people.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Through this because this is one of those things that
the first time you hear what's going on in California,
even for California, it's hard to believe this is really
going on, but it is what's happening.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Well, thanks so much for having me on Buck.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
A law has been passed in California that basically puts
into practice every tenet of critical race theory and anti
white privilege ideas. It holds that because we all know that,
of course the criminal justice system is racist, and the
only reason that there's a higher proportion of blacks in
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prison than other groups must be criminal justice racism. It
cannot be higher rates of crime. The law has decided
that all that a black defendant needs to do to unravel,
to discredit, to stop in at tracts his prosecution is
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to allege that in the past there was a pattern
of bias against black defendants. The law explicitly says it's
too difficult to prove bias in the individual case that
a defendant was arrested out of police bias or was
prosecuted out of prosecutorial bias. So we're just going to
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get rid of that requirement. And all a black defendant
needs to do is allege that in the past members
of his race were treated unfairly because of their race.
And this is a complete destruction of the idea of
individual fault of individual proof. And the kicker is is
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that as of this year, anybody in prison today in California,
if your minority, you can retroactively challenge your sentencing or
your arrest and get resentenced. This is a recipe to
take down the criminal justice system, and the left knows it.
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They are celebrating this as the opportunity to end what
they view as a racist.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Process against blacks.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Heather, thanks for coming on.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
I mean, you have done incredible work on so many
different stories relating to DEI and the dishonesty in the
way that race has talked about in America today, UCLA,
I would submit to you, and I'm curious if you
would agree that most people out there care not at
all about diversity, equitine inclusion, the more serious the issue
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that they face is. For instance, I don't think anybody
cares about anything other than do they have the best
doctor when they have a serious medical issue. And certainly
I don't think anybody cares about when they get on
an airplane anything other than is the pilot of badass
am I as safe as I could possibly be. The
former that I just mentioned. UCLA is now making diversity
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one of the hallmarks of its medical training, and as
a result, it appears they are admitting severely underqualified students
to be trained as doctors. What is the data showing
us and how alarming should that be given that UCLA
is considered to be one of the most elite, I believe,
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of the medical institutions out there, certainly in the state
of California.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Well, it's extraordinarily alarming, Clay, But it's far beyond UCLA.
This is going on everywhere and has been going on
for decades. We are admitting students on the basis of race,
not merit that are not competitively qualified, they are not
keeping up. And when minority students that have been admitted
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under these massive racial preferences, they're admitted with scores on
the medical college admission tests that would be automatically disqualifying.
They're so low if presented by a wider Asian applicant,
predictably they end up at the bottom of their class.
They struggle to pass exams, qualifying exams, and so the
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result is, of course, well, we're not going to actually
now reimpose meritocratic standards. We're going to lift those standards
as well, and so I will pass them along. But
this has been going on for a very long time, Clay.
In the nineteen eighties, there was a Harvard Medical School
professor who wrote a very anodyne editorial in the Journal
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of American Medical Association JAMMA, and he recounted that a
student at a prestigious medical school, which turned out to
be Harvard, but he didn't name the school, had failed
the medical licensing exam five times, and Harvard passed him
along anyway, because the.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Pressure to show diversity was so great.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
We know that if you have not been able to
pass licensing exams. The data shows you're going to be
much more likely to be brought before a medical licensing
board for malpractice. It has an effect on patient outcomes,
on patient mortality. This data has been out there for
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decades and it's completely brushed under the rug because America
has decided that its racial guilt is so enormous that
it would rather subject unknown patients to less qualified or
unqualified physicians then live with the fact that the academic
skills gap is so huge that if you maintain meritocratic standards,
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you're not going to have racial proportionality. The solution to
that is not to tear down the standards. Our standards
are not racist, whether it's in the criminal law or
in medicine or in high tech, those standards are not
racist their color blood. The problem is the skills gap,
and the problem is the crime gap.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
We're speaking to Heather MacDonald and she's got a really
important piece that's cross posted right now up at claanbuck
dot com. So you can go to Claianbuck dot com
and you'll see California's Looming crime Catastrophe by Heather McDonald.
By the way, crime is already a problem there, but
it's going to get a whole lot worse if this
law that she's talking about continues to be put into practice.
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There's this change in the ability for felons to contest
there in car and the prosecution based on the allegations
of historic group racism. But Heather, one issue that I
feel like doesn't get anywhere near enough attention. We're talking
about the on the medical school side of things, the
changing of standards. It seems that the Supreme Court has
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made pretty clear that it's actually, you're actually not allowed
to do this anymore. You're not supposed to be doing
this anymore.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
But are they just doing it in all these schools anyway?
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I mean, how do we finally get And in California
it's been illegal to do this under state law for
a long they got rid of racial preferences, I think
back in the nineties.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
But people just do it anyway? Is that the state
of play?
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Of course, there's no way that these schools are going
to give up on diversity. Diversity and the fight against
phantom racism is the only unifying ideology on a college
campus today. It's brought us the Hamas protests, the Provamas
hysteria because it's all linked, it's all intersectional. You know,
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you just simply believe that whites are evil, Western civilization
is evil. Israel is now white and Western and therefore evil,
and so you have these bizarre alliances. But yes, this
is the this they've been They've been trying to duck
the rules in California for a long time. And the
way they do that is with this idea of holistic admissions.
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So they say, well, we're not really looking at race,
but we're looking at economic disadvantage or the individual that
it's just been so hard to struggle against racism. By
the way, you're also black, that we're going to admit you.
And sadly, the Supreme Court decision two summers ago that
banned racial preferences did allow a very big loophole in
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where Chief Justice Roberts said, well, of course we can't
ban you from taking into account individual essays, and so
the schools can continue noticing legally that the author of
an essay is black, and they can say, well, we're
not just we don't have some hard and fast racial quota.
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It just so happens that when we do holistic admissions,
we still end up promoting minority students who again would
be automatically disqualified if their grades and test scores were
presented by whites and Asians. It's a complete double standard.
It's a war on excellence. And let's be honest, this
is a very difficult thing to say, but you guys
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have the courage to say it, and you've been saying it.
It is a war on whites, and now it's a
war on Asians as well.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Heather, are you optimistic?
Speaker 5 (09:41):
I'm trying to have an optimistic day as we roll
into the holiday weekend, and I wanted to hit you
with something You've been very important in talking about the
war on cops in the wake of twenty twenty, that
we have seen police officers constantly targeted the rates of
violence again and them have skyrocketed.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I saw a.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Recent poll where support for police officers in America is
starting to skyrocket back up as one of the most
trusted groups of people in America. That used to be
the case for most of my life, I would imagine
for most of your life. Are you seeing or hearing
from your sources any suggestion that the war on cops,
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which was unmistakably occurring for years, has started to lead
to more people out there saying, wait a minute, this
is way overboard. We've got it back the blue. We've
got to support police and their ability to do their job.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Well, it depends on what people you're talking about. If
you're talking about your average American, that well maybe the case.
The question is, are the policymakers pulling back on that?
And you know, if I want to be optimistic, which
is very much against my nature, but I'll go along
with your Memorial Day push.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
You know, when the Biden goes around saying, oh, we've
got the lowest crime right ever and crime is dropping. Ay,
that's not true, but crime is dropping. The reason it's
dropping to the extent it is, and that's still very contestable,
is because a lot of these left wing cities have said, whoa,
we need more cops.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Now.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
It's very still very hard to higher cops. There's a
recruiting crisis in this country because who wants to start
a job when from the first day the President of
the United States is going to be saying you're a racist,
and the entire elite democratic class and the media is
going to be saying you're a racist. But there are
some jurisdictions like Baltimore, Washington, d C. That have pulled
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back on some of the anti cop measures and are saying,
we need proactive policing, We need law enforcement officers to
use their constitutional powers of observation to make stops to
questions people engaged in suspicious behavior. So that has been
changing to a certain extent. On the other hand, you know,
I'm watching Chicago right now where there's a battle over
(12:04):
whether to reinstate shot spotter technology. The mayor, Brandon Johnson,
wants to get rid of it because get this, cameras
are racist.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Audio technology is racist.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
If it turns out that you put audio sensors to
hear shootings, and those audio sensors, which by the way,
have no consciousness, they don't know where the shots are
coming from, who's shooting the gun, not it is the
police for that matter, but the sensorsly don't. Those are
racist audio sensors because they show us that the vast
majority of drive by shootings occur in black neighborhoods, and
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who are the victims?
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Blacks?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
But we're not supposed to care about that. So the
left wants to get rid of shot spotter technology because
it's racist in telling us that blacks are shooting each
other at just enormous rates. Black juveniles are shot at
one hundred times the rate of white juveniles in the
post George Floyd race riot world. But there's parts of
the Chicago City Council that is standing up to Mayor
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Brandon Johnson in Chicago and saying, whoa, we want the
shot spotter. And here's the really hilarious thing. Clan by
Johnson wants to cancel the shot Spotter contract, but only
after the DNC convention.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
He will.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
We'll keep it then so that we can maybe keep
the gang bangers off the street and minimize our chances
of having you know, conventioneers shot in a drive by shooting.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
After that, we're going to get rid of it.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
But the Council is pushing back and saying, no, this
is a technology that works, and we're not going to
buckle under the absolutely preposterous charge that a censor for
shooting is a racist a machine.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Chicago would be such a great city and get such
a renaissance. I think if they could just get the
crime situation under control. But Democrats aren't.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Willing to do what they need to do.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Heather MacDonald from the Manhattan Institute when Race Trump's merit
is her book. Also go to Clanbuck dot com. Her
piece California's Looming crime Catastrophe is there have their great work.
As always, thanks for being with us.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Thanks clam Bike, It's an honor.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
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go read that book, Fearless in an Arrow when Buck,
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People in media are cowards.
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Travis Buck Sexton show headed into Memorial Day weekend? What
percentage of our audience We're gonna have some fun in
the third hour because I'm ready to just kind of
cut loose and be ready for the long weekend. Certainly,
we thank everybody out there who has given the ultimate sacrifice,
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which is what we're going to be celebrating throughout the
entirety of the weekend. Monday, in particular, Buck and I
will be back on Tuesday. I think Monday will be
a best of Some of you are saying, there's the
best version of this show. Well, we think so we
put one together. What do you think the percentage is
of our listening audience right now that is traveling in
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some way for this weekend, the official start of summer.
I'd go at least twenty five percent. I think this
audience there's a lot of grandparents, a lot of parents,
kids getting out ready to celebrate the start of I
think a lot of people get to the lake, the
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(17:20):
I think a lot of people. I don't think this
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It's like drive two hours to the place you want
a barbecue weekend. I think there's a lot that's a
good way of describing and on all the military guys,
and I always say, I know it is a solemn
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without fail says more of the weekend. Of course, give
some thought to those who fought and died for this country,
but they would want you to go enjoy your weekend
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And Jesse Kelly is I think the biggest Red Lobster
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up in front of family. Recently, Red Lobster's having problems.
My sister and my brother in law are like, I
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It was founded in Florida. Yes, And it's really the
most successful seafood chain. It sells something like twenty five
percent of Lobster Global or something I actually read in
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you would appreciate it, the amount of seafood that Red
Lobster by itself owns and purchases. But it's based, it's
started in Florida, but it's supposed to be like a
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really ever make sense. But it was successful for a
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But not as much as I do. So when I'm
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Speaker 2 (20:27):
Lobster or maybe even two. I love a steam lobster.
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I am not a snow crab or like king crab,
king crab guy, or you know what I mean, the legs.
People pay so much money for those. I don't really understand.
As a Floridian, I have grown accustomed to stone crab,
but Joe stone.
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crab could just be used as currency. Like I'm convinced
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I was like, that's how much it costs for you know,
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a good stone crab. Claus like one hundred and twenty
five hundred and fifty bucks for a claw.
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It's insane.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
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as that place. I mean it's super Bowl week and
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there are lots of places that bring in a lot
of people to eat a lot of diners. I've never
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Speaker 1 (21:49):
We're gonna talk about shellfish more with Jesse Kelly and
definitely make fun of him a bit in the third hour.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
We have to remember we were gonna give him a
hard time about something recently. But we're gonna have Jesse
Kelly joining us. That'll be fun. But coming up, we're
going to have Bernie Marino, And before we get to them,
I just want to set the stage a little bit
with news. We're getting back to the news here for
a second. So the real short version is in Ohio,
they have a law that says, I think it's ninety
days before election day, you have to be on the ballot,
(22:16):
like you have to be the guy on the ballot.
The DNC decided to have a you know, they decided
to move around things so they'll be later right there
after the RNC. And so, as a matter of law
in Ohio, Biden doesn't qualify for the ballot. There's no
no one didn'ty. There's no dirty tricks here. The DNC
just decided that they were going to ignore this.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
And guess what.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
The Republican Governor of Ohio, Mike DeWine, is calling out
the legislature and saying, we got to make room for
Biden on the ballot.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Play eight.
Speaker 8 (22:46):
The Legislature had session yesterday and again failed to take
any action. This is simply unacceptable. Ohio is running out
of time to get Joe Biden, the sitting President of
the United States, on the ballot. This fault failing to
do so is simply not acceptable. This is a ridiculous,
This is an absurd situation. Therefore, tonight, pursuant Article three,
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Section eight of the Ohio Constitution, I am calling a
special session of the Ohio General Assembly to begin this
coming Tuesday, May twenty eighth. The purpose of this session
will be for the General Assembly to pass legislation ensuring
that both major presidential candidates will be on the Ohio
ballot in November.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Clay Democrats break the law to stop Trump from being
on the ballot, unsuccessfully. Meanwhile, Republicans change the laws, change
good law to make sure that Joe Biden can be
on the ballot. Why does our party love losing? Why
do we love it so much? It's just a lot
of cowards.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
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the exact same law on the books and Donald Trump
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that address.
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I mean, it's it's like silly to even have to
answer the question because it's so obvious, you know what
I mean. We sit here, we're like everybody. Everybody knows
that they wouldn't do this, but Mike DeWine's doing it. Look,
he was horrible on COVID. So Ohio. We love Ohio.
We have some great number one number one markets.
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they could do better. I want better for them, you know,
jd Vance, Well done, Ohio, Mike DeWine, I'm not seeing it.
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Speaker 5 (26:20):
Welcome back in, Clay, Travis, Buck, Sexton Show, Bernie Marino's
schedule to join us right about now, so we may
get a call or we may not. The campaign going
on in Iowa, they may have gotten caught up somewhere,
or as often is the case, still I don't know
when it's ever going to end. There's still a lot
of areas where cell phones just don't work all over
(26:42):
the country, and we're, you know, twenties for a generation
into everybody having cell phones at this point, and it
still doesn't make any sense to me. You guys listening
to us right now probably know certain places close to
your home where you're on the phone and you're like, hey,
it's probably gonna drop here. It always I did want
to hit on this, the decision on the mar Lago raid,
(27:07):
the fact that deadly force was authorized, really that got
Democrats rattled. I'm sure you saw this. Buck Merrick Garland,
the Attorney General who signed off on this raid, even
felt compelled to say what they're telling you is not true.
Even though it is true. Listen to cut seven.
Speaker 9 (27:28):
That allegation is false and it is extremely dangerous. The
document that has been referred to in the allegation is
a Justice Department standard policy limiting the use of force.
As the FBI advises, it is part of the standard
operations plan for searches, and in fact, it was even
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used in the consensual search of President Biden's home.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
I just want to show us, show us that, yes,
show us that I agree.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
What want to put put online the official document and
no faking official documents because that.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Would be a no no.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Put online the official document that shows us the authorization
for lethal force to pick up classified at Joe Biden's
beach house next to the corvette, hopefully not near Hunter's
bag of cocaine.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Like show us where this is. You know what I mean?
We're just with I agree. I'm not taking his word
for anything.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
And also that, first of all, I don't believe it's true,
because I think the document would have been released if
it were true.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Maybe it will come out at some point, but.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
Even if it is true, as the Attorney General who
said that you personally made the decision to approve the
raid at mar A Lago, Merrick Garland's a smart guy.
He certainly understood that the action he was undertaking had
never occurred before in the history of the United States.
That is, the sitting President's Department of Justice, his FBI
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raids the former president. Shouldn't he go ahead and own
that he screwed this up instead of claiming its standard
operating procedure. Bernie Marino joins us, Now, Bernie appreciates you.
We're rooting for you to flip Ohio back to a
full red state. But I'm curious what you think of
all this controversy about whether Joe Biden should be on
(29:18):
the ballot or not in Ohio and the scramble that
Democrat failure in terms of the timing of their Democrat
National Convention has put in place with Ohio law. How
do you break all this down?
Speaker 7 (29:33):
Yeah, I mean, obviously, if the tables are turned, Let's
be honest, they would never lift a finger to President
Trump on the ballot, that they would do the exact opposite.
My perspective is, let's not be like them. And number one,
number two, let's show America that Ohio's Trump country. So
let's put Biden on the ballot so that we can
absolutely beat him by fifteen plus points and humiliate his
(29:56):
give him a humility loss here in Ohio. He deserves
is that, after everything he's done to this century, of
the last three and a half years, I'd like to
see him soundly defeated here in Ohio.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
How is it looking right now? What are the latest
numbers telling you about how Biden's going to fare? And
is the Ohio GOP ready for the challenge?
Speaker 7 (30:16):
Oh? Absolutely we have a great state party. We have
a great county party system. We have eighty eight very
healthy county parties. If the election were today, President Trump
would probably be win by twenty points.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
Twenty point win. Is there any way you don't win?
If Trump wins by twenty how connected you think the
vote is going to be in Ohio when it comes
to presidential ticket and Senate ticket.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
I think it'll be very connected. I think there's not
a lot of crossover anymore. But I'll caution this. You
know there's today the election is a twenty point victory.
But let's not discount the creativity of the radical left
to cause guide those grief, and also the entirety of
the mainstream media is going to do the bidding of
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Sharon Brown and Joe Biden.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Let's not discount that I actually saw that.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
I know your campaign's going well, Bernie, because I saw
the New York Times came after you and your entire
life history in a bio piece. And I always think
when I read those, man, Bernie must be running a
good campaign. When the New York Times dedicates three thousand
words to saying, Oh, Bernie's actually a really bad guy.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
What'd you think of that profile. What did it tell
you about the campaign.
Speaker 7 (31:35):
Well that they obviously can't talk about Sharon Brown's accomplishments,
so they have to debase me and my family. You know.
The Tadam moment in that article is, well, Bernie said
it was a two bedroom apartment. Turns out there was
three bedrooms. It's two bedrooms in a data We really
argue about this. And by the way, it had two bathrooms.
And it was five brothers, myself, my sister, my mom,
(31:56):
my dad, my grandfather, and my grandmother. So it was
definitely the lap of luxury according to the New York Times,
you know, and my dad was making five dollars and
twenty five cents an hour raising seven kids. But of
course it's just ridiculous. But there is no separation between
the New York Times and the Democrat Party. That's what
I learned in my brief time in politics.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Kind of Bernie, do you remember do you remember when
they went after Marco Rubio when Hillary Clinton was giving
speeches for two hundred fifty thousand dollars a pop, and
they found out that Marco, hopefully soon to be your
centate Republican colleague, had like a family fishing boat that
was worth like sixty grand or something in The New
York Times tried to hit him on that one, and
then everyone was talking about how many how many Marco boats?
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Hillary gets paid for speech.
Speaker 7 (32:44):
Marco Rubio's luxury yacht.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yeah, no, that's how they were positioning in like, oh,
the spend thrift Rubio. Anyway, you know, you know what
you're up against with the New York Times. They're completely
an utterly in the tank. For the other side, what
do you I mean for the people who are wondering,
you know, how how this is going to shape up,
you know, against Biden, what's your expectation for what they're
going to try to hammer in your state? Like what
(33:09):
is the because Biden can't be the the tip of
the spear of their attack, right because it's Biden and
we all know this. Are they just going to go
on on abortion stuff and threats to democracy? Like how
are they going to try to position themselves.
Speaker 7 (33:24):
In the you can't make this up department? Sharret Brown
is trying to position himself are you ready for this one?
As a Trump guy? So he's he's aligning himself saying
I'm with Trump on trade, I'm with Trump on taxes,
I'm with Trump on immigration, I'm with Trump on stopping fentanyl.
That is his current theme, which is again you know,
you have to suspend the mentality that they said, Oh,
(33:45):
it's totally wild. But and I you know, listen, let's
not be surprised when in October Sharon Brown endorses President
Trump and to Joe Biden, I see that as plausible.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
That would be wild.
Speaker 5 (33:58):
So you think it's possible to sitting Democrat senator is
going to be floundering and trying to win to such
a degree that he might endorse Donald Trump as President
of the United States in Ohio.
Speaker 7 (34:10):
Oh, absolutely, I mean his ads are basically heading that
direction anyway. I mean, when if you have Air Force
one that comes anywhere near Ohio airspace, you can hear
share Brown running to a bunker.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
That is pretty incredible to think about. So when you're
on the road for people out there who pay a
lot of attention to the presidential race, that obviously matters
a great deal. But if you beat Shared Brown, given
what's going on in West Virginia, Republicans take control of
the Senate. Obviously, there are a lot of other races
that are of high significance, But how much do you
(34:50):
think about that impact in terms of what it could
do for the nation to take back control of the Senate,
not to mention take back control of Ohio completely.
Speaker 7 (35:00):
Think we have to paint that picture for voters. It
means a safe and secure border. It means zero illegal immigration.
It means we have safety and security. It means we
have a stronger country because we have a stronger economy.
We make things here in America again, We restore a
growing and thriving middle class. We have energy dominance, we
don't need any energy from any other country on Earth,
(35:22):
and we have piece of stability around the world. That
is what we will deliver for the American people if
they give us the opportunity of the White House and
the Senate in the House again.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Bernie Marino, Bernie worship folks go especially. We've got a
lot of Ohio listeners. They want to get involved in help.
Speaker 7 (35:38):
I need to help from your listeners. They can go
on the website, Bernie Marino, Mr Emo dot com. Sarah
Brown is going to have every horrible dark organization around
the country supporting him. I need the grassroots supporters, the
conservatives that love this country and want to get our
country back.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
There we go, Bernie Marino, everybody go check it out. Bernie,
thanks for being with us, of course, thank you, guys.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
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And I'm gonna go do that and prepare everybody. Next hour,
we're gonna have a eulogy for Red Lobster from our
friend Jesse Kelly, among other things were discussed with him.
And then also we'll talk about vacations and how to
do them the right way because we're gonna have a
(36:28):
fun third hour. We've missed any of the politics that
I think we've.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
We've got everything that could happen in the world. There
could be news breaking, as we said, because it's going
into the holiday weekend, and a lot of times this
is when news dumps happen. So far, I think we've
covered every single news story on the planet in the
first fourteen hours of the week. Let's have some Memorial
Day fun headed into the final hour.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Of the week. Next here on Playing Buck
Second hour, Clay and Buck kicks off. Now we are
joined by the one and only Heather McDonald, Manhattan and
Stude fellow, author of When Race Trump's Merit. She has
a fascinating and really unsettling peace in City Journal California's
looming crime catastrophe. Recent legislation makes it easier for felons
(00:21):
to claim racial bias. We want to talking about this
and also the UCLA Medical School revelations.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
The first walk people.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Through this because this is one of those things that
the first time you hear what's going on in California,
even for California, it's hard to believe this is really
going on, but it is what's happening.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Well, thanks so much for having me on Buck.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
A law has been passed in California that basically puts
into practice every tenet of critical race theory and anti
white privilege ideas. It holds that because we all know that,
of course the criminal justice system is racist, and the
only reason that there's a higher proportion of blacks in
(01:07):
prison than other groups must be criminal justice racism. It
cannot be higher rates of crime. The law has decided
that all that a black defendant needs to do to unravel,
to discredit, to stop in at tracts his prosecution is
(01:27):
to allege that in the past there was a pattern
of bias against black defendants. The law explicitly says it's
too difficult to prove bias in the individual case that
a defendant was arrested out of police bias or was
prosecuted out of prosecutorial bias. So we're just going to
(01:51):
get rid of that requirement. And all a black defendant
needs to do is allege that in the past members
of his race were treated unfairly because of their race.
And this is a complete destruction of the idea of
individual fault of individual proof. And the kicker is is
(02:15):
that as of this year, anybody in prison today in California,
if your minority, you can retroactively challenge your sentencing or
your arrest and get resentenced. This is a recipe to
take down the criminal justice system, and the left knows it.
(02:39):
They are celebrating this as the opportunity to end what
they view as a racist.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Process against blacks.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Heather, thanks for coming on.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
I mean, you have done incredible work on so many
different stories relating to DEI and the dishonesty in the
way that race has talked about in America today, UCLA,
I would submit to you, and I'm curious if you
would agree that most people out there care not at
all about diversity, equitine inclusion, the more serious the issue
(03:15):
that they face is. For instance, I don't think anybody
cares about anything other than do they have the best
doctor when they have a serious medical issue. And certainly
I don't think anybody cares about when they get on
an airplane anything other than is the pilot of badass
am I as safe as I could possibly be. The
former that I just mentioned. UCLA is now making diversity
(03:38):
one of the hallmarks of its medical training, and as
a result, it appears they are admitting severely underqualified students
to be trained as doctors. What is the data showing
us and how alarming should that be given that UCLA
is considered to be one of the most elite, I believe,
(03:59):
of the medical institutions out there, certainly in the state
of California.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Well, it's extraordinarily alarming, Clay, But it's far beyond UCLA.
This is going on everywhere and has been going on
for decades. We are admitting students on the basis of race,
not merit that are not competitively qualified, they are not
keeping up. And when minority students that have been admitted
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under these massive racial preferences, they're admitted with scores on
the medical college admission tests that would be automatically disqualifying.
They're so low if presented by a wider Asian applicant,
predictably they end up at the bottom of their class.
They struggle to pass exams, qualifying exams, and so the
(04:46):
result is, of course, well, we're not going to actually
now reimpose meritocratic standards. We're going to lift those standards
as well, and so I will pass them along. But
this has been going on for a very long time, Clay.
In the nineteen eighties, there was a Harvard Medical School
professor who wrote a very anodyne editorial in the Journal
(05:09):
of American Medical Association JAMMA, and he recounted that a
student at a prestigious medical school, which turned out to
be Harvard, but he didn't name the school, had failed
the medical licensing exam five times, and Harvard passed him
along anyway, because the.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Pressure to show diversity was so great.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
We know that if you have not been able to
pass licensing exams. The data shows you're going to be
much more likely to be brought before a medical licensing
board for malpractice. It has an effect on patient outcomes,
on patient mortality. This data has been out there for
(05:51):
decades and it's completely brushed under the rug because America
has decided that its racial guilt is so enormous that
it would rather subject unknown patients to less qualified or
unqualified physicians then live with the fact that the academic
skills gap is so huge that if you maintain meritocratic standards,
(06:15):
you're not going to have racial proportionality. The solution to
that is not to tear down the standards. Our standards
are not racist, whether it's in the criminal law or
in medicine or in high tech, those standards are not
racist their color blood. The problem is the skills gap,
and the problem is the crime gap.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
We're speaking to Heather MacDonald and she's got a really
important piece that's cross posted right now up at claanbuck
dot com. So you can go to Claianbuck dot com
and you'll see California's Looming crime Catastrophe by Heather McDonald.
By the way, crime is already a problem there, but
it's going to get a whole lot worse if this
law that she's talking about continues to be put into practice.
(06:54):
There's this change in the ability for felons to contest
there in car and the prosecution based on the allegations
of historic group racism. But Heather, one issue that I
feel like doesn't get anywhere near enough attention. We're talking
about the on the medical school side of things, the
changing of standards. It seems that the Supreme Court has
(07:17):
made pretty clear that it's actually, you're actually not allowed
to do this anymore. You're not supposed to be doing
this anymore.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
But are they just doing it in all these schools anyway?
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I mean, how do we finally get And in California
it's been illegal to do this under state law for
a long they got rid of racial preferences, I think
back in the nineties.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
But people just do it anyway? Is that the state
of play?
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Of course, there's no way that these schools are going
to give up on diversity. Diversity and the fight against
phantom racism is the only unifying ideology on a college
campus today. It's brought us the Hamas protests, the Provamas
hysteria because it's all linked, it's all intersectional. You know,
(08:00):
you just simply believe that whites are evil, Western civilization
is evil. Israel is now white and Western and therefore evil,
and so you have these bizarre alliances. But yes, this
is the this they've been They've been trying to duck
the rules in California for a long time. And the
way they do that is with this idea of holistic admissions.
(08:24):
So they say, well, we're not really looking at race,
but we're looking at economic disadvantage or the individual that
it's just been so hard to struggle against racism. By
the way, you're also black, that we're going to admit you.
And sadly, the Supreme Court decision two summers ago that
banned racial preferences did allow a very big loophole in
(08:46):
where Chief Justice Roberts said, well, of course we can't
ban you from taking into account individual essays, and so
the schools can continue noticing legally that the author of
an essay is black, and they can say, well, we're
not just we don't have some hard and fast racial quota.
(09:08):
It just so happens that when we do holistic admissions,
we still end up promoting minority students who again would
be automatically disqualified if their grades and test scores were
presented by whites and Asians. It's a complete double standard.
It's a war on excellence. And let's be honest, this
is a very difficult thing to say, but you guys
(09:29):
have the courage to say it, and you've been saying it.
It is a war on whites, and now it's a
war on Asians as well.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Heather, are you optimistic?
Speaker 5 (09:41):
I'm trying to have an optimistic day as we roll
into the holiday weekend, and I wanted to hit you
with something You've been very important in talking about the
war on cops in the wake of twenty twenty, that
we have seen police officers constantly targeted the rates of
violence again and them have skyrocketed.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
I saw a.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Recent poll where support for police officers in America is
starting to skyrocket back up as one of the most
trusted groups of people in America. That used to be
the case for most of my life, I would imagine
for most of your life. Are you seeing or hearing
from your sources any suggestion that the war on cops,
(10:25):
which was unmistakably occurring for years, has started to lead
to more people out there saying, wait a minute, this
is way overboard. We've got it back the blue. We've
got to support police and their ability to do their job.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Well, it depends on what people you're talking about. If
you're talking about your average American, that well maybe the case.
The question is, are the policymakers pulling back on that?
And you know, if I want to be optimistic, which
is very much against my nature, but I'll go along
with your Memorial Day push.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
You know, when the Biden goes around saying, oh, we've
got the lowest crime right ever and crime is dropping. Ay,
that's not true, but crime is dropping. The reason it's
dropping to the extent it is, and that's still very contestable,
is because a lot of these left wing cities have said, whoa,
we need more cops.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Now.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
It's very still very hard to higher cops. There's a
recruiting crisis in this country because who wants to start
a job when from the first day the President of
the United States is going to be saying you're a racist,
and the entire elite democratic class and the media is
going to be saying you're a racist. But there are
some jurisdictions like Baltimore, Washington, d C. That have pulled
(11:42):
back on some of the anti cop measures and are saying,
we need proactive policing, We need law enforcement officers to
use their constitutional powers of observation to make stops to
questions people engaged in suspicious behavior. So that has been
changing to a certain extent. On the other hand, you know,
I'm watching Chicago right now where there's a battle over
(12:04):
whether to reinstate shot spotter technology. The mayor, Brandon Johnson,
wants to get rid of it because get this, cameras
are racist.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Audio technology is racist.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
If it turns out that you put audio sensors to
hear shootings, and those audio sensors, which by the way,
have no consciousness, they don't know where the shots are
coming from, who's shooting the gun, not it is the
police for that matter, but the sensorsly don't. Those are
racist audio sensors because they show us that the vast
majority of drive by shootings occur in black neighborhoods, and
(12:40):
who are the victims?
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Blacks?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
But we're not supposed to care about that. So the
left wants to get rid of shot spotter technology because
it's racist in telling us that blacks are shooting each
other at just enormous rates. Black juveniles are shot at
one hundred times the rate of white juveniles in the
post George Floyd race riot world. But there's parts of
the Chicago City Council that is standing up to Mayor
(13:04):
Brandon Johnson in Chicago and saying, whoa, we want the
shot spotter. And here's the really hilarious thing. Clan by
Johnson wants to cancel the shot Spotter contract, but only
after the DNC convention.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
He will.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
We'll keep it then so that we can maybe keep
the gang bangers off the street and minimize our chances
of having you know, conventioneers shot in a drive by shooting.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
After that, we're going to get rid of it.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
But the Council is pushing back and saying, no, this
is a technology that works, and we're not going to
buckle under the absolutely preposterous charge that a censor for
shooting is a racist a machine.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Chicago would be such a great city and get such
a renaissance. I think if they could just get the
crime situation under control. But Democrats aren't.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Willing to do what they need to do.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Heather MacDonald from the Manhattan Institute when Race Trump's merit
is her book. Also go to Clanbuck dot com. Her
piece California's Looming crime Catastrophe is there have their great work.
As always, thanks for being with us.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Thanks clam Bike, It's an honor.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
She really does do phenomenal work. I'd encourage you to
go read that book, Fearless in an Arrow when Buck,
as you well know, far too many.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
People in media are cowards.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
That is the word for her. Fearless, Yes, fearless and factual. Yeah, good,
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Travis Buck Sexton show headed into Memorial Day weekend? What
percentage of our audience We're gonna have some fun in
the third hour because I'm ready to just kind of
cut loose and be ready for the long weekend. Certainly,
we thank everybody out there who has given the ultimate sacrifice,
(16:38):
which is what we're going to be celebrating throughout the
entirety of the weekend. Monday, in particular, Buck and I
will be back on Tuesday. I think Monday will be
a best of Some of you are saying, there's the
best version of this show. Well, we think so we
put one together. What do you think the percentage is
of our listening audience right now that is traveling in
(16:59):
some way for this weekend, the official start of summer.
I'd go at least twenty five percent. I think this
audience there's a lot of grandparents, a lot of parents,
kids getting out ready to celebrate the start of I
think a lot of people get to the lake, the
beach or the river, you know, depending And yeah, so
(17:20):
I think a lot of people. I don't think this
is like necessarily go across the country to see family weekend.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
But yeah, no, no, that's right. It's barbaric.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
It's like drive two hours to the place you want
a barbecue weekend. I think there's a lot that's a
good way of describing and on all the military guys,
and I always say, I know it is a solemn
weekend because they say every military guy that I know,
without fail says more of the weekend. Of course, give
some thought to those who fought and died for this country,
but they would want you to go enjoy your weekend
with your family. That's why they're out there fighting. So
(17:50):
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why is our stock market hovering at record high numbers
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Speaker 2 (18:05):
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Speaker 2 (19:08):
I don't know if you know, Red Lobster is not going
to be with us much longer.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
And Jesse Kelly is I think the biggest Red Lobster
fan in America. I think I think he is single
handedly the guy. And it's funny because I brought it
up in front of family. Recently, Red Lobster's having problems.
My sister and my brother in law are like, I
can't tell you the level of culinary excitement that the
cheesy biscuits or whatever bring them. They are the cheddar
(19:32):
Bay biscuits. Yeah, the cheddar Bay biscuits. Yes, I don't
even I can't the amazingly named cheddar Bay biscuits.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Yes, Red Lobster, I believe buck was founded in Florida.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yes, am I right about?
Speaker 7 (19:45):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (19:46):
It was founded in Florida. Yes, And it's really the
most successful seafood chain. It sells something like twenty five
percent of Lobster Global or something I actually read in
the Wall Street Journal. I flagged this because I thought
you would appreciate it, the amount of seafood that Red
Lobster by itself owns and purchases. But it's based, it's
started in Florida, but it's supposed to be like a
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bar harbor main like fishing shack wook, which also doesn't
really ever make sense. But it was successful for a
very long time. I mean, I love lobster, I will
say I am. That's the one thing that Carrie likes it.
But not as much as I do. So when I'm
having like if she's with family or doing girls' night
dinner or something, I will just get a.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Lobster or maybe even two. I love a steam lobster.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
I am not a snow crab or like king crab,
king crab guy, or you know what I mean, the legs.
People pay so much money for those. I don't really understand.
As a Floridian, I have grown accustomed to stone crab,
but Joe stone.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
Crab is my favorite restaurant. I think if I had
one of the most profitable restaurants in the country, stone
crab could just be used as currency. Like I'm convinced
now that stone is incredible. Rolex is like, you can
just hand this to people and everybody. Stone crab is
so expensive. We ordered it one night here and I
don't even want to tell you how much your costs.
I was like, that's how much it costs for you know,
(21:04):
a good stone crab. Claus like one hundred and twenty
five hundred and fifty bucks for a claw.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
It's insane.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
I was at the Super Bowl that Miami had in
twenty twenty, Fox had it. I was doing my daily
sports gambling show, and I was. I told the team
that I did the show with. I said, we have
to go to Joe's Stone Crab, you know, after for
dinner one night. I've never seen a conveyor belt in
a restaurant that costs that much moving through as efficiently
(21:33):
as that place. I mean it's super Bowl week and
the amount of people that they run in. You know,
there are lots of places that bring in a lot
of people to eat a lot of diners. I've never
seen one that costs that much flow through that many.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
We're gonna talk about shellfish more with Jesse Kelly and
definitely make fun of him a bit in the third hour.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
We have to remember we were gonna give him a
hard time about something recently. But we're gonna have Jesse
Kelly joining us. That'll be fun. But coming up, we're
going to have Bernie Marino, And before we get to them,
I just want to set the stage a little bit
with news. We're getting back to the news here for
a second. So the real short version is in Ohio,
they have a law that says, I think it's ninety
days before election day, you have to be on the ballot,
(22:16):
like you have to be the guy on the ballot.
The DNC decided to have a you know, they decided
to move around things so they'll be later right there
after the RNC. And so, as a matter of law
in Ohio, Biden doesn't qualify for the ballot. There's no
no one didn'ty. There's no dirty tricks here. The DNC
just decided that they were going to ignore this.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
And guess what.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
The Republican Governor of Ohio, Mike DeWine, is calling out
the legislature and saying, we got to make room for
Biden on the ballot.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Play eight.
Speaker 8 (22:46):
The Legislature had session yesterday and again failed to take
any action. This is simply unacceptable. Ohio is running out
of time to get Joe Biden, the sitting President of
the United States, on the ballot. This fault failing to
do so is simply not acceptable. This is a ridiculous,
This is an absurd situation. Therefore, tonight, pursuant Article three,
(23:10):
Section eight of the Ohio Constitution, I am calling a
special session of the Ohio General Assembly to begin this
coming Tuesday, May twenty eighth. The purpose of this session
will be for the General Assembly to pass legislation ensuring
that both major presidential candidates will be on the Ohio
ballot in November.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Clay Democrats break the law to stop Trump from being
on the ballot, unsuccessfully. Meanwhile, Republicans change the laws, change
good law to make sure that Joe Biden can be
on the ballot. Why does our party love losing? Why
do we love it so much? It's just a lot
of cowards.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
And I would just say this, Pretend that Michigan had
the exact same law on the books and Donald Trump
and Republicans had just violated it. Would Gretchen Whitmer give
that address.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
I mean, it's it's like silly to even have to
answer the question because it's so obvious, you know what
I mean. We sit here, we're like everybody. Everybody knows
that they wouldn't do this, but Mike DeWine's doing it. Look,
he was horrible on COVID. So Ohio. We love Ohio.
We have some great number one number one markets.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
We've been number one one.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
I don't know where we currently are, but in Columbus,
in Cincinnati, and in Cleveland we've been number one at
different times all throughout that So we love Ohio.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
We know Ohio loves this show. But Mike good Wine,
they could do better. I want better for them, you know,
jd Vance, Well done, Ohio, Mike DeWine, I'm not seeing it.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
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Speaker 5 (26:20):
Welcome back in, Clay, Travis, Buck, Sexton Show, Bernie Marino's
schedule to join us right about now, so we may
get a call or we may not. The campaign going
on in Iowa, they may have gotten caught up somewhere,
or as often is the case, still I don't know
when it's ever going to end. There's still a lot
of areas where cell phones just don't work all over
(26:42):
the country, and we're, you know, twenties for a generation
into everybody having cell phones at this point, and it
still doesn't make any sense to me. You guys listening
to us right now probably know certain places close to
your home where you're on the phone and you're like, hey,
it's probably gonna drop here. It always I did want
to hit on this, the decision on the mar Lago raid,
(27:07):
the fact that deadly force was authorized, really that got
Democrats rattled. I'm sure you saw this. Buck Merrick Garland,
the Attorney General who signed off on this raid, even
felt compelled to say what they're telling you is not true.
Even though it is true. Listen to cut seven.
Speaker 9 (27:28):
That allegation is false and it is extremely dangerous. The
document that has been referred to in the allegation is
a Justice Department standard policy limiting the use of force.
As the FBI advises, it is part of the standard
operations plan for searches, and in fact, it was even
(27:49):
used in the consensual search of President Biden's home.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
I just want to show us, show us that, yes,
show us that I agree.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
What want to put put online the official document and
no faking official documents because that.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Would be a no no.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Put online the official document that shows us the authorization
for lethal force to pick up classified at Joe Biden's
beach house next to the corvette, hopefully not near Hunter's
bag of cocaine.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Like show us where this is. You know what I mean?
We're just with I agree. I'm not taking his word
for anything.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
And also that, first of all, I don't believe it's true,
because I think the document would have been released if
it were true.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Maybe it will come out at some point, but.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
Even if it is true, as the Attorney General who
said that you personally made the decision to approve the
raid at mar A Lago, Merrick Garland's a smart guy.
He certainly understood that the action he was undertaking had
never occurred before in the history of the United States.
That is, the sitting President's Department of Justice, his FBI
(28:55):
raids the former president. Shouldn't he go ahead and own
that he screwed this up instead of claiming its standard
operating procedure. Bernie Marino joins us, Now, Bernie appreciates you.
We're rooting for you to flip Ohio back to a
full red state. But I'm curious what you think of
all this controversy about whether Joe Biden should be on
(29:18):
the ballot or not in Ohio and the scramble that
Democrat failure in terms of the timing of their Democrat
National Convention has put in place with Ohio law. How
do you break all this down?
Speaker 7 (29:33):
Yeah, I mean, obviously, if the tables are turned, Let's
be honest, they would never lift a finger to President
Trump on the ballot, that they would do the exact opposite.
My perspective is, let's not be like them. And number one,
number two, let's show America that Ohio's Trump country. So
let's put Biden on the ballot so that we can
absolutely beat him by fifteen plus points and humiliate his
(29:56):
give him a humility loss here in Ohio. He deserves
is that, after everything he's done to this century, of
the last three and a half years, I'd like to
see him soundly defeated here in Ohio.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
How is it looking right now? What are the latest
numbers telling you about how Biden's going to fare? And
is the Ohio GOP ready for the challenge?
Speaker 7 (30:16):
Oh? Absolutely we have a great state party. We have
a great county party system. We have eighty eight very
healthy county parties. If the election were today, President Trump
would probably be win by twenty points.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
Twenty point win. Is there any way you don't win?
If Trump wins by twenty how connected you think the
vote is going to be in Ohio when it comes
to presidential ticket and Senate ticket.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
I think it'll be very connected. I think there's not
a lot of crossover anymore. But I'll caution this. You
know there's today the election is a twenty point victory.
But let's not discount the creativity of the radical left
to cause guide those grief, and also the entirety of
the mainstream media is going to do the bidding of
(31:06):
Sharon Brown and Joe Biden.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Let's not discount that I actually saw that.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
I know your campaign's going well, Bernie, because I saw
the New York Times came after you and your entire
life history in a bio piece. And I always think
when I read those, man, Bernie must be running a
good campaign. When the New York Times dedicates three thousand
words to saying, Oh, Bernie's actually a really bad guy.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
What'd you think of that profile. What did it tell
you about the campaign.
Speaker 7 (31:35):
Well that they obviously can't talk about Sharon Brown's accomplishments,
so they have to debase me and my family. You know.
The Tadam moment in that article is, well, Bernie said
it was a two bedroom apartment. Turns out there was
three bedrooms. It's two bedrooms in a data We really
argue about this. And by the way, it had two bathrooms.
And it was five brothers, myself, my sister, my mom,
(31:56):
my dad, my grandfather, and my grandmother. So it was
definitely the lap of luxury according to the New York Times,
you know, and my dad was making five dollars and
twenty five cents an hour raising seven kids. But of
course it's just ridiculous. But there is no separation between
the New York Times and the Democrat Party. That's what
I learned in my brief time in politics.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Kind of Bernie, do you remember do you remember when
they went after Marco Rubio when Hillary Clinton was giving
speeches for two hundred fifty thousand dollars a pop, and
they found out that Marco, hopefully soon to be your
centate Republican colleague, had like a family fishing boat that
was worth like sixty grand or something in The New
York Times tried to hit him on that one, and
then everyone was talking about how many how many Marco boats?
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Hillary gets paid for speech.
Speaker 7 (32:44):
Marco Rubio's luxury yacht.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yeah, no, that's how they were positioning in like, oh,
the spend thrift Rubio. Anyway, you know, you know what
you're up against with the New York Times. They're completely
an utterly in the tank. For the other side, what
do you I mean for the people who are wondering,
you know, how how this is going to shape up,
you know, against Biden, what's your expectation for what they're
going to try to hammer in your state? Like what
(33:09):
is the because Biden can't be the the tip of
the spear of their attack, right because it's Biden and
we all know this. Are they just going to go
on on abortion stuff and threats to democracy? Like how
are they going to try to position themselves.
Speaker 7 (33:24):
In the you can't make this up department? Sharret Brown
is trying to position himself are you ready for this one?
As a Trump guy? So he's he's aligning himself saying
I'm with Trump on trade, I'm with Trump on taxes,
I'm with Trump on immigration, I'm with Trump on stopping fentanyl.
That is his current theme, which is again you know,
you have to suspend the mentality that they said, Oh,
(33:45):
it's totally wild. But and I you know, listen, let's
not be surprised when in October Sharon Brown endorses President
Trump and to Joe Biden, I see that as plausible.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
That would be wild.
Speaker 5 (33:58):
So you think it's possible to sitting Democrat senator is
going to be floundering and trying to win to such
a degree that he might endorse Donald Trump as President
of the United States in Ohio.
Speaker 7 (34:10):
Oh, absolutely, I mean his ads are basically heading that
direction anyway. I mean, when if you have Air Force
one that comes anywhere near Ohio airspace, you can hear
share Brown running to a bunker.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
That is pretty incredible to think about. So when you're
on the road for people out there who pay a
lot of attention to the presidential race, that obviously matters
a great deal. But if you beat Shared Brown, given
what's going on in West Virginia, Republicans take control of
the Senate. Obviously, there are a lot of other races
that are of high significance, But how much do you
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think about that impact in terms of what it could
do for the nation to take back control of the Senate,
not to mention take back control of Ohio completely.
Speaker 7 (35:00):
Think we have to paint that picture for voters. It
means a safe and secure border. It means zero illegal immigration.
It means we have safety and security. It means we
have a stronger country because we have a stronger economy.
We make things here in America again, We restore a
growing and thriving middle class. We have energy dominance, we
don't need any energy from any other country on Earth,
(35:22):
and we have piece of stability around the world. That
is what we will deliver for the American people if
they give us the opportunity of the White House and
the Senate in the House again.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Bernie Marino, Bernie worship folks go especially. We've got a
lot of Ohio listeners. They want to get involved in help.
Speaker 7 (35:38):
I need to help from your listeners. They can go
on the website, Bernie Marino, Mr Emo dot com. Sarah
Brown is going to have every horrible dark organization around
the country supporting him. I need the grassroots supporters, the
conservatives that love this country and want to get our
country back.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
There we go, Bernie Marino, everybody go check it out. Bernie,
thanks for being with us, of course, thank you, guys.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Play.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
I'm gonna go refill my Crocket coffee, which I have
plenty of because I subscribe at crocketcoffee dot com, which is.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
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Speaker 1 (36:07):
The most pro freedom, pro America, pro American history coffee.
And I'm gonna go do that and prepare everybody. Next hour,
we're gonna have a eulogy for Red Lobster from our
friend Jesse Kelly, among other things were discussed with him.
And then also we'll talk about vacations and how to
do them the right way because we're gonna have a
(36:28):
fun third hour. We've missed any of the politics that
I think we've.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
We've got everything that could happen in the world. There
could be news breaking, as we said, because it's going
into the holiday weekend, and a lot of times this
is when news dumps happen. So far, I think we've
covered every single news story on the planet in the
first fourteen hours of the week. Let's have some Memorial
Day fun headed into the final hour.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
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