August 14, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show features a dynamic and wide-ranging conversation centered on media bias, political accountability, and national security, with guest Howie Kurtz from Fox News’ Media Buzz and commentary from Karol Markowicz of the New York Post. The hour begins with a critical look at the mainstream media’s reaction to President Donald Trump’s crime crackdown in Washington, D.C. The hosts and Kurtz highlight how Democrat-aligned outlets like CNN and MSNBC reflexively oppose Trump’s initiatives, even when crime statistics and public sentiment support his actions. They note that even left-leaning voices such as Joe Scarborough have acknowledged the severity of urban crime, underscoring the disconnect between political elites and everyday Americans.
The conversation shifts to allegations against Senator Adam Schiff, who is accused of leaking classified information to damage Trump. Kurtz expresses caution due to the anonymous nature of the whistleblower but acknowledges the broader pattern of political targeting. The hosts then explore the decline of legacy media, focusing on the Washington Post under Jeff Bezos. Kurtz laments the departure of top journalists and the erosion of editorial independence, arguing that podcasts and talk radio now drive the national conversation more than traditional newspapers.
A major segment of the hour anticipates the upcoming Trump-Putin summit, with the hosts predicting that the media will frame any diplomatic progress as capitulation to Russia. Kurtz and Markowicz agree that if Trump can broker a ceasefire in Ukraine, it would be a win for global stability, but expect the press to revive the discredited Russia collusion narrative. The show also breaks news of Melania Trump suing Hunter Biden for $1 billion over defamatory comments linking her to Jeffrey Epstein. The hosts praise Melania’s assertiveness and frame the lawsuit as a bold defense of her reputation.
Markowicz delivers a passionate rebuttal to claims of an Israeli starvation campaign in Gaza, criticizing the New York Times for misleading coverage and defending Israel’s humanitarian efforts. She calls out both left- and right-wing figures who fell for propaganda, labeling them “marks” for anti-Israel disinformation. The hour also includes listener feedback, including a humorous exchange about Clay’s frequent use of the word “fabulous,” and a lighthearted segment on fishing experiences in Alaska and the Gulf Coast.
The episode concludes with a discussion on New York City politics, including Mayor Eric Adams’ handling of crime and the potential impact of local leadership on national Republican messaging. Markowicz warns that Democrats may attempt to mask urban decline ahead of the 2026 midterms, while the hosts reflect on how past mayors like Bill de Blasio inherited safe cities and squandered public trust.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, second hour Play and Buck kicked off right now,
and we are joined by Howie Kurtz. He is the
host of Media Buzz over on Fox News, and how
we appreciate you making the time for us. You've had
play on and me on many times in the past.
Great program you do there over at Fox. You're focus
on all the news, but obviously the media angle in particular.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Let's start with this one.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Have you been surprised at how the Democrat aligned or
I should say more Democrat favorite, however you want to
put it. The CNNMSNBC industrial complex going after Trump on
the crime thing, even though some of their own Democrats
talking heads are saying this is not a winning issue
for US.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Guys a stun because there is this sort of knee
jerk reaction among media liberals that if it's Trump, it's
a police stay, he's an authoritarian. And yet you know,
numbers aside, we can argue about the numbers. I mean,
people here are scared. It's been a wave of carjackings.
There was sixteen carjackings in July alone, and that's scary stuff.
(01:07):
I know people that it's happened to, and so you
would think be a welcoming of some extra firepower, FBI,
National Guard and all of that, and instead a lot
of folks on the left are using it as an
opportunity to beat up on the president.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Are you, I mean, even by crazy anti Trump reflexive ideology.
I was surprised when Trump said, Hey, we're going to
surge resources in Washington, d C. I think it's hard
to argue the president doesn't have the constitutional authority to
do this based on where DC is. So it's not
(01:48):
LA so you don't really have a separation of powers
argument in some way. I was stunned by how aggressively
Democrats have come out and said, well, crime's not really
that bad. And to the credit of we like this
clip earlier, even like Joe Scarborough on MSNBC, quite a
few left leaning politician media have been willing to say, yeah,
(02:09):
this is actually not a argument to make crime is awful.
Are you surprised that typical Democrats, the Chuck Schumers of
the world, have really tried to fight Trump on this.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I am, well, if you Chuck Shuey, you've got like,
you know, twenty security agents surrounding you, right, he doesn't
have to worry. But yeah, I think Scarborough kind of
nails it, like he says, I talked to my Democratic friends,
and you know they're worried, and you know we can
get it to a debate about the numbers. And Trump says,
it's never been this bad, and actually it's down from
(02:43):
what it was last year. But who cares about the numbers.
The district of Columbia where I am now is the
fifth most dangerous in terms of violent crime in the country.
That's an embarrassment. It's a disgrace. And I get the
Home rule, but DC has always had limited Home rule powers.
(03:03):
And if this can help at all, and now Trump
wants to extend it beyond thirty days, why it makes
the Democrats appear like they don't really care about crime,
they only care about the politics of it. And I
just think it's disgraceful.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
What do you make of these allegations that Senator Adam
Shift approved leaking classified information to harm President Troum Powie.
I know you've been following this story.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yeah, it's a little hard for me to judge because
this is a whistleblower whose name we don't know, and
who first made these allegations several years ago. I do
think there's a little bit of a risk for the
president in that at the present moment, he seems to
be going after or having the Justice Department go after
a whole lot of his foot Atlantam he's and he's
(03:53):
not a fan of Shift, the Shift as he calls him.
But I think we have to take it seriously. And
I think there does seem to be an effort to
go after Letitia James and all of these people who
have basically tried to screw Trump over the years, I
(04:15):
think if you do too much of that, and you know,
it's not like the Justice Department just says, oh, hey,
let's go after Shift. You know, Trump is pushing him.
And the thing about Trump is like he's totally transparent
about it. He says the quiet part out loud. He says,
Barack Obama's guilty of treason. And you can agree, you
can disagree. But again coming back to the point that
even if people don't like this president, I don't agree
(04:38):
with his policies, you've got to give him credit for
being aggressive on crime, on Putin and a whole bunch
of other things.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
We're talking to Howard Kurtz. You're in d C.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Buck and I both have lived in DC. I went
to college there, Buck worked there. The Washington Post used
to dominate the city of Washington the way that very
few newspapers have ever dominated any city's overall media scene.
What how would you assess the Post and influence now?
How do you analyze what Jeff Bezos is trying to do?
(05:12):
How does the newspaper impact daily life in DC now
compared to how it might have in past generations.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
That's a great question. Unfortunately, as an alumnus of the
paper back when it was not quite so blatantly left leaning,
almost all the stars have left and they're blaming Bezos. Now.
I understand, you know, they don't like the idea that
Bezos wants certain editorial stances on the editorial piece. That
(05:43):
is his prerogative as the owner. But as I've watched
one after another after another, people leave. Is just not
the paper it was. Plus, newspapers are not as influential
overall as they were. You know, the postal up with
some good scoops, but it is kind of sad. I mean,
(06:06):
I think, you know, radio shows and podcasts are now
the new media that drive a lot of coverage. But
you can't drive all your you know, your best investigative reporters,
your best people who cover these beats. You can't drive
(06:27):
them all away and still claim to have an influential newspaper.
It's it's a sad situation. And obviously the Washington Post
is not the only place that faces this.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Can they rebuild? I mean, did you look at a
place like CNN, Howie, which you know I was. I
was a conservative contributor there a decade ago, And as
I say to people, there were others Kaylee MCANENNI when
I was there was another.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
She's an alumna of CNN.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
But they would actually have conservatives on. I know they've
started to have Scott Jennings because they've really they can't
and a few others. They can't just do this total
echo chamber situation that they've had under Biden and Trump
before that. But is it possible to fix these brands?
Would it require a total overhaul? Do they just think
that people will forget and they'll slowly but surely move
(07:17):
more toward sanity. What do you think happens?
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Like?
Speaker 1 (07:20):
How can you advise a place as somebody who follows
the media closely, how do you advise a place like
CNN if you were asked to win back. I'm not
saying to get the conservative audience. I'm just saying to
be able to look people in the eye and say
we're actually a news network.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Again.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Well, sure, you can rebuild by going out and aggressively
hiring people and turning them loose. Same thing at the
Washington Post. But you got to be willing to spend
the money. Jeff Bezos, I, by my calculation, has a
lot of money.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
So that's true.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, Clay and I checked on that. Jeff Bezos got
a pack that as a fact check is accurate.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Yes, yes, but you got to be.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Willing to spend it. And you know, a lot of
places are just worried about their profit margins these days.
You know, the business model has kind of collapsed, especially
for a place like CNN. Yeah, it's like fifty liberals
and Scott Jennings. At least they have Scott Jennings. But
I think that a lot of these places just don't
(08:19):
get it, Like they bring in these new CEOs and
they just want to fatten the profit margins. Well, you know,
you've got to invest money in journalism in order to
have an audience. And if you don't do that, then
you're just kind of skating along. And it just seems
to me that the world has changed. Digital media has changed.
(08:43):
Everybody's got all this stuff on their phones, and you've
got to really rethink what you're doing because these places CNN,
I mean MSNBC as an example, when Trump announced the
crackdown on crime here in Washington, just completely went in
(09:04):
the opposition mode. No, he's not telling the truth. The
numbers are wrong. Well, it doesn't really matter if you're
being hard jacked. I know people this has happened to.
If people are afraid to walk the streets and then
you start arguing about numbers, it's just, you know, it's
like going into opposition mode. It's back into the resistance.
(09:24):
And I think that's what's happening with a number of
these mediats.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
We're talking about, Howard Kurtz Media Buzz on Fox News
every Sunday. Both Buck and I have been guests. Really
enjoy that you have the space to actually make arguments
on the show, to have real discussion. Thanks, and I
would suggest Howie that the discussion surrounding Trump and Putin
meeting tomorrow will likely be just an absolute mess because
(09:53):
of the past Russia collusion, the stories, and frankly much
of the hoax surround it. How can the media, if
people want to be informed, accurately cover anything happening with
Putin and Trump given all the mess of past Putin
Trump coverage, is there a way to actually do it
(10:15):
in a trustworthy manner at all?
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Well, you guys should go do the show from Alaska.
That's number one, definitely, because.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Clay Clay actually is desperate.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I'm being serious, He's desperate to go to Alaska because
I told him it's if you like the outdoors and
natural beauty, it's it's it's increating.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I want to go. Once you see a grizzly bear
in real life, you're like, oh, that's very interesting.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
We've got the governor, by the way, a little bit
of a tease here next hour of Alaska, who will
be with us talking about this situation? But how do
you cover it? Based on the failures of the media
in the past.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
I think it has less to do with the media's
insane over coverage of you know, Russia, Russia, Russia than
it does with what appears to be happening. I mean,
a week ago, Trump was a gung hole about this,
and there has been a dramatic lowering of expectations where
he says, well, we'll have the first meeting, but it's
(11:09):
just a listening exercise, and if its first being goes well,
we'll get to the second meeting. He's also got Zelenski
not going along, So I think, you know, Trump loves
this sort of face to face negotiation, big TV spectacle
with world leaders. I did it with the King Juan Un,
for example. But he's got to have something to show
(11:29):
for it, and I think you know, he'll come out
and do the big joint press conference, and if it
looks like he's at least started a process where there
could be a cease fire in this brutal and bloody
war started by war criminal Vladimir Putin, then I think
he'll get good coverage. And if it looks like it's
(11:50):
just a small step and they haven't really done much,
then will the people in the press will question whether
it was worth fighting this dictator onto US soil.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
No doubt appreciate you being with us, Howie.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Thanks for making the time and we'll see as soon
on Media Buzz on Fox News.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Great to be here.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Thanks guys anytime. Yeah, I Alaska thing. Do you you
don't fish?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Do you clay? It's a good question, so U that's
usually not that's usually not.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Well.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
I mean I feel like you can't be a like
deletant fisherman, if that makes sense, because the people who
do fish are very very serious about it, and so
if you say, well, yeah, I like to fish, and
then they're like, what lures do you use? Well, So
I grew up My grandfather and uncle fished all the time.
(12:48):
It was their favorite thing. So I grew up going
out with them and fishing a lot. I have tried
to take my boys out when we go down to
the Gulf Coast to get out and fish. And we
have a lot of lakes in my neighborhood that people
maybe ponds is more accurate to describe it, but they're
stocked and you have to throw the fish back. But
my kids have enjoyed doing that so occasionally. But I
(13:10):
feel like fishing is one of those things that you
can't say you did occasionally. You either live and die
fishing or you never do it. But I do wish
if I went to Alaska, I would fish. I mean,
I went and learned how to h what's the fly fish?
I learned how to fly fish with buddies. We went
and did that. So if I went to Alaska, I
(13:31):
think I would fish for salmon. Answer your question, Yeah,
I think it's I think it's something you'd have to do.
I've done it before, and I tried a little fly like.
I also think this spinning, I think it's called spinning reel.
I'm a I'm not even an advanced beginner. I'm a
fishing beginner. I grew up fishing with my dad, who
is a fisherman and can do all the lures and
(13:52):
the stuff, and you know, he's been fishing all over
the world that he would just bring me and I
never got good at it. So he's to your point,
he's a fisherman. I'm somebody who's come along fishing with
him many times. But spinning reel versus fly fly to
me is a whole other you know. This is like, uh,
like the difference between bow hunting and rifle, you know,
and using a rifle. It's a big, big step up
(14:14):
in terms of the technique in the time. But yeah,
it's just awesome to be out there and see that
I've done. I think I told you this. I went
deep sea fishing for shark. I have caught a what
is the sailfish? I've been deep sea fishing for those
big you know sailfish. You can't keep them, but you
catch swordfish.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Sure. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
And and we took the boys out recently and did
red snapper, which is down on the Gulf. There's tons
of red snapping fishing. That was really really fun, and
we ate a lot of red snap.
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Speaker 4 (15:59):
Welcome back in a Travis buck Sexton show. I appreciate
all of you hanging out with us. We got some talkbacks.
Let's see here. Steve is upset in Orange County because
I keep saying the word, according to him, fabulous.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Uh, Clay fire away and this is Steven in Orange County, California.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Hey man, I'm just trying to help you out, but
if you really want to stop being an unk, you
need to quit trying to channel Patsy Stone.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
You say fabulous way too much.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Pal.
Speaker 6 (16:33):
Thanks for all you guys do, but Clay, get.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Yourself in order it.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
I don't even understand is that saying that it's an
old man thing to say fabulous or what word?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
And I don't understand. I didn't quite understand the dunk.
It was definitely a dunk attack or dunk attempt, but
I'm not sure that I really understood the dunk. I
would say this, you're what was the word that somebody
pointed out, because that you definitely do. But that's a
Tennessee thing you say, uh, appreciate, you appreciate.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Yeah, well that's an accents, that's a clay that's an
access that I don't know about the word choice thing
with fabulous, I do not, no doubt is a Clay
word choice.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
That fabulous is a Clay word choice. I I haven't
noticed that. I say fabulous very much. But I don't
even understand. The criticism was that that is an old
man word or it's a young person's word, and I'm trying.
I don't even understand.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
You.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
You got to be better at your criticism, Steve Joe.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
One of my favorite Clay Travis boys story is when
they called you an unk because I got to learn
that word and laugh at it at the same time.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
So that was good for They come after me, call
me an unk all the time. Joe and Claremont, Florida.
What you got for us?
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
What kind of sandwich was it? Anyway? Remember you can
indicte a ham sandwich. Let's see.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Oh, now there's a dad joke?
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Was it?
Speaker 4 (17:49):
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Speaker 2 (18:49):
Everybody. As always, senisor talkback.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Do a lot of talkbacks coming in on a whole
range of topics and we will get to those shortly.
I just want to note this was interesting. Milania Trump
has sued Hunter Biden for a billion dollars.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
You see this, Clay, Yeah, you should ask Carol Markowitz
about it because she is sitting about to talk with us.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
That was exactly I was up. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Carol Markowitz joins us now of the clam Buck podcast
network and she got to hear my intro of the
Milania lawsuit.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
But you know what, Carol, first of all, thanks for
being with us at the Carol Markowitz Show.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
You were just traveling abroad as we saw public as
I saw on Instagram. So I don't think I'm giving
away any secrets. Where were you and what was your
favorite place?
Speaker 6 (19:38):
I was in France. My middle son, who's twelve years old,
had a week long history competition in Paris. He came
home with a silver and bronze medal representing Florida.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
So very proud of this was by the way, didn't
you quiz us on some of the things that I mean?
This is like not hey, what year was Louisiana purchased
style history? This is like super nerd history stuff.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
Right, It's really hard, Like I don't know anything at
his competitions and his international ones, like in his regional ones,
I'll have some answers.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
But yeah, I would like to say that if Clay
and I teamed up, we would be able to give
him a run for his money. But I think I've
already suffered maybe a little overconfidence lately on something, so
I might have to might have to dial that back
and say, I think your boy heard.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
About a thousand mile an hour tennis swing.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Well no, no, no, no, no, not a thousand. Definitely,
that's definitely not gonna happen. We're looking for a hundred.
We're looking for a hundred, and you know this is good.
It's a little bit of like a middle aged guy
reality check. I might have to do a little bit
of lifting for a couple of weeks year. I you know,
I'm gonna I'm gonna make this happen one way or another.
This is like, this is like somebody who's who's decided
they're gonna dunk a dunk of basketball once. Not that
(20:45):
they're an NBA player, but they will get to a
place where they can one time dunk a basketball.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
That's kind of how I view it. Yeah, So all
the people who are like are like, pro serve one
hundred and twenty five.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
I'm like, I'm a middle age radio host who plays
tennis like twice a month.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Ever. Needs to calm down.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
But but here we go with let's get back to
Hunter Biden for one second year. This is this is
his response to the suit for Malania Trump.
Speaker 7 (21:10):
Play one, Ladies and gentlemen. The day of presidential litigation
has arrived. It's lawsuit time. In my hand is a
legal demand letter addressed to mister Hunter Biden from the
First Lady of the United States, demanding a retraction of
Channel five's video called Hunter Biden Returns, on which mister
Biden here makes some speculative comments about the relationship between
(21:33):
Jeffrey Epstein, Milania Trump, and Donald Trump. He didn't make
these claims out of nowhere. They come from another journalist
named Michael Wolfe, who is a biographer that actually spoke
to Jeffrey Epstein. But now here we are, and I've
got a billion dollar document in my hands because Missus
Trump is seeking one billion dollars in damages if we
don't take the video down and if Hunter here doesn't
(21:53):
issue a formal apology to Missus Trump. So now we're
here maybe to give you the platform to apologize to
the first Lady for your statements that you made about
her possible connection to Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Fat that's not going to happen.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
WHOA.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
So it looks like, see here's the thing. Is it
tough guy, Hunter? Or is it this guy's got nothing
to lose? And I mean quite literally, like what cash
does he have?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Anyway? What do you make of this?
Speaker 6 (22:22):
Well, I think like three Hunter Biden paintings should cover
that billion. And that's the price they used to go
for when his dad was president. I don't know if
that's still the rate of those paintings today. I love
the Milania is doing this. This is a new era
of Milania Trump where she just doesn't take anything from anyone.
(22:45):
Love that she's going after him, Love that she's defending
herself and her husband. It's really I love to see it.
I think it's great, and I just it's a perfect
way for her to say, you will not be spreading
lives about me. You will not be telling tales about me.
Don't think you can get away with it just because
you know your dad was president.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
We and Trump it took over the entire news cycle
this week by deciding that he was going to lower
the crime rate in DC and that it was unacceptable.
I still remain stunned that Democrats have fallen for the
crime is not actually that bad or uh, this is
totally unnecessary, angle are you? I mean, because it seems
(23:27):
so tone deaf. Even Joe Scarborough called him out today
on MSNBC and said, look, ninety one percent of DC
residents say crime is a big problem. I think trying
to lower crime is not particularly political. I mean, it's
crazy to me that they took the tack that they did.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
It is insane. And you know, look, when I left
New York three years ago, it was partially because crime
was getting bad, and that was just a part of it.
But the real thing was that nobody would admit it.
Like when you said to your you know, on a
neighborhood chat on a one of those boards online, Hey,
I'm getting worried crime is getting bad. All the responses
(24:03):
would be like, no, what are you talking about. Crime
is not getting bad. You're being lied to by Fox
News and et cetera. It was a very standard thing
to deny that anything was happening, and that's what the
media people are used to. They're used to just saying
we can't admit this is happening. If we admit this
is happening, that means our philosophy of governing has failed.
(24:23):
And that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Actually.
Speaker 6 (24:25):
It's the fact that when democrats are in charge and
they make crime basically legal, crime goes up, and that's
the way it goes. So I'm not at all surprised
that that's where the media went In twenty twenty when
the riots were going on, tons of media people would say, Oh,
I'm meeting a burrito in this park and I don't
see any rioters here, and that was what they went
(24:46):
with as a argument for don't worry about this. American
people are too smart for that. At this point, even
the mayor of DC is welcoming the help. So I
think the media has found itself really out of step
with the American public.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yet again, it reminded us Carol Clinton. I talked about
a couple days ago of the Obrago Garcia moment where
everyone on CNM was.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Like, can you believe that this alleged, alleged.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
MS thirteen gang member involved in human trafficking and one
of the most violent and horrific gangs in America, who's
definitely an illegal was deported from this country.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
What kind of a country is this?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Everyone's looking around like that sounds like a great idea, Like,
what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (25:25):
They completely lit themselves on fire with that one.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
Yep, yeah, that's right. They just keep thinking that it's
twenty twenty and they can get away with saying this
kind of thing, and the American people will just, you know,
be too afraid to admit that there's a problem here
with legal immigration or any of it. And I just
think Americans have had enough. They had five years of
you were not allowed to say what you're really thinking,
and you had to monitor your language, and you weren't
(25:50):
allowed to have certain opinions. And now they're free, and
there's a vibe shift and Donald Trump's president, and they're
not having it anymore.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Where do we go from here with the Friday meeting
between Putin and Trump? We were just talking with Howard Kurtz,
who does the media buzz I actually think? Because of
all the Russia collusion laws, it makes media coverage of
any meeting between Trump and Putin almost impossible because they
(26:20):
failed to analyze honestly this relationship for so long that
even saying something honest today would feel boy who cries wolf?
So how should the media at large approach this meeting
face to face between Trump and Putin? And how do
you think they will compared to what they should do?
Speaker 6 (26:41):
So I think that they should approach it as Donald
Trump wants to help and bloodshed. He wants to help
end a war that has been going on for a
long time, and in a lot of ways it has
been at a stalemate where people are dying needlessly. How
they will cover it is that Trump is Putin's stooge
and he's in his pocket, and any kind of concession
(27:03):
to Putin at all would be, you know, just the
absolute worst thing that could ever happen. Now. I am
not a fan of Russia. I was born in Russia.
I have no love for the place. I am very
anti Putin. So I say this as somebody who you know,
if I could wave my magic wand Ukraine wins today
and that's it. But that's not what we have. We
have an ongoing war of people from both sides have
(27:25):
been dying at astonishing rates for years now. So if
Donald Trump can bring an end to this, that should
be what the media would want. They should want a
win for Donald Trump because that win means a win
for the Russian people, for the Ukrainian people, and for
America to be able to play that role on the
world stage. You know, in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Carol, we haven't had a chance to talking about this
yet on the show, but there's been far It's been
less coverage of it lately, but for a couple of
weeks there in particular, there was this very widespread and
not just among the usual like globalized, the Intofada, left
wing people who hate, you know, everything Israel does is terrible.
America's on puppet strings with Israel pulling all that all that, right,
(28:11):
I'm not talking about those people, we can.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
We know where they are on this.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I'm the ones who were calling for a ceasefire on
October eighth, you know, like then that's that's a separate thing.
There were people on the right, though, who were also
very loud about an intentional starvation campaign in Gaza, and
intentional Now Netan Yahoo has said this is of course
he's the he's the Prime Minister of Israel, so we
know what he's gonna say. But he has come out
(28:37):
very clearly and said, look, there's been some shortages. There's
no campaign of starvation. If we wanted to, we could
just kill everybody in Gaza in a day. Obviously, we're
trying to feed them.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
What what do you like?
Speaker 1 (28:46):
How did this get to the point where so many
people thought that they were bringing a quote genocide and
a quote famine to the to the place where they
thought that that was actually what was going on, including
people on the right.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
I've been referring to those people as marks, and that's
what they are. They're the marks for this kind of propaganda.
They fell for a picture on the cover of The
New York Times of a starving child in Gaza, who obviously,
and you didn't need me to know very much about
the conflict to know that The New York Times is
lying here the obviously this child had some mother issues.
(29:21):
His overweight mother is holding him, and they cut his
healthy looking brother out of the picture. But you know,
anytime you see a well fed mom and a starving baby,
understand that you're being lied to. There's not a mom
in the world who's not going to feed her child
before herself. So you know, I was actually in France
(29:42):
when that story broke. It set me so much because
I saw kind of people that I think are good people,
but like, I'll never ever look at them the same
way again because they fell for the story. Like how
dumb do you need to be to believe the New
York Times propaganda on this kind of stuff, And the
idea that Israel star of the population of Gaza is
(30:03):
so ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
If you know.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
Anything about israelis israelis care far more about the Palestinians,
and the Palestinian leadership cares about the Palestinians, so it's
definitely not reality. Israel is continually sending aid, which you know, frankly,
I don't think is the right thing to do in
a lot of the cases in war to send aid
to your enemy. But this is the situation that Israel
(30:25):
finds itself in They're expected to do insane things, to
go above and beyond, to do things that no other
country would do, to get the most minimum support. And
still all these countries around the world are recognizing some
state of Palestine to reward the Palestinians and Hamas who
did October seventh. They win if that's the case, they win,
if they get a state at the end of this.
(30:46):
It's really sad, and I really was very just disheartened
to see people on the right be the marks for
this kind of propaganda. And I hope they don't continue
to fall for things, but I'll never trust those people again.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
We're talking to Carol Markowitz, New York Posts. Last question
for you, Carol, I had a funny one because Denzel
Washington went off on the went off on the Cowboys,
and I know your husband's a big Cowboys fan and
your sons and you know they're never gonna win anything,
and I understand why that's tough.
Speaker 6 (31:17):
Hey Titans fan, all right, yeah, well.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
We don't even attempt to try to defend the Titans
at this point. But on a more interesting note, I
thought you lived in New York City like Buck for
a long time, Buck and I have debated how people
who are not Mom Donnie supporters and people who truly
think that he would be an awful choice should handle this,
and I took the tack of, hey, you know what
(31:41):
sucks for New York City, but at least if he wins,
that's a for nationwide for the midterms next year. He
is a face of socialism, face of communism. New York's
gonna suffer, but the rest of the country might be
more likely to vote against Democrats. Are you in that
camp or are you in the camp of we have
(32:01):
to do everything we can to save Democrats from themselves.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
Ooh so tough, because I really am between it, because
I have families still in New York who all are
trying to vote themselves to sanity, but keep having the
roadblock of this kind of thing come up. I think
if he wins, he will be the poster child for
Republicans going into the midroom saying, look what happened you
look at this guy. But because Trump has done such
an incredible job on the border, the New York City
(32:27):
just closed its last migrant hotel because they simply don't
have enough people coming in anymore. So he might be
able to skate for a little while and make it
seem like New York's really not doing that bad under
his leadership. I'm a little worried about the strategy of
using him in that case, because I really do think
he can make it seem like New York is doing
just fine. And look all the hysterics. You know, we're
(32:49):
so wrong about how I was going to go.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
But Carol just jump in. That's what the Glasio inheriting exactly.
A great situation from for the first, you know, three
or four years of the blog was what are you
guys talking about? The city's super safe, everything's great, and
we kept saying, your policies are moronic.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
It's going to get bad. It's going to get bad.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
And then by the time it all got really bad,
it was too late to just sort of turn the
spigot off and it was a mess.
Speaker 6 (33:14):
Exactly. So, Mom, Donnie has a very similar situation where
the police chief Tish is very respected among police officers,
she's doing a great job, murder rate is way down,
so he might be able to carry that kind of wind,
which is funny that Eric Adams can't run on it successfully.
He brought murder rates down to a very low level
in New York City. He should be proud of that.
(33:34):
He should be running on that, but I don't even
know where he is. So it's interesting because it's exactly
that same situation as Glasio. He might be able to
just make it appear that look nothing bad has gone
on under my leadership, but we know from the Deblasio
years that that simply can't last. It might be after
the midterms, though, so I'd be wary of him being
the mayor.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Carol outstanding stuff as always, appreciation coming on. Encourage everybody
to sign up for the podcast. I think I'll be
your guest next week. So there you go. That's something
to be fun.
Speaker 6 (34:04):
Thanks so much, Clays.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
All right, thank you for coming on with us. That's
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Pia from Orlando, Florida.
Speaker 8 (35:47):
What you got, Hi, guys, I just found it interesting
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Absolutely Fabulous or ab fab which are mostly women and
(36:09):
gay men.
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Wow.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
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When we come back. Speaking of a visceration, tennis pros
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All right, second hour Play and Buck kicked off right now,
and we are joined by Howie Kurtz. He is the
host of Media Buzz over on Fox News, and how
we appreciate you making the time for us. You've had
play on and me on many times in the past.
Great program you do there over at Fox. You're focus
on all the news, but obviously the media angle in particular.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Let's start with this one.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Have you been surprised at how the Democrat aligned or
I should say more Democrat favorite, however you want to
put it. The CNNMSNBC industrial complex going after Trump on
the crime thing, even though some of their own Democrats
talking heads are saying this is not a winning issue
for US.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Guys a stun because there is this sort of knee
jerk reaction among media liberals that if it's Trump, it's
a police stay, he's an authoritarian. And yet you know,
numbers aside, we can argue about the numbers. I mean,
people here are scared. It's been a wave of carjackings.
There was sixteen carjackings in July alone, and that's scary stuff.
(01:07):
I know people that it's happened to, and so you
would think be a welcoming of some extra firepower, FBI,
National Guard and all of that, and instead a lot
of folks on the left are using it as an
opportunity to beat up on the president.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Are you, I mean, even by crazy anti Trump reflexive ideology.
I was surprised when Trump said, Hey, we're going to
surge resources in Washington, d C. I think it's hard
to argue the president doesn't have the constitutional authority to
do this based on where DC is. So it's not
(01:48):
LA so you don't really have a separation of powers
argument in some way. I was stunned by how aggressively
Democrats have come out and said, well, crime's not really
that bad. And to the credit of we like this
clip earlier, even like Joe Scarborough on MSNBC, quite a
few left leaning politician media have been willing to say, yeah,
(02:09):
this is actually not a argument to make crime is awful.
Are you surprised that typical Democrats, the Chuck Schumers of
the world, have really tried to fight Trump on this.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I am, well, if you Chuck Shuey, you've got like,
you know, twenty security agents surrounding you, right, he doesn't
have to worry. But yeah, I think Scarborough kind of
nails it, like he says, I talked to my Democratic friends,
and you know they're worried, and you know we can
get it to a debate about the numbers. And Trump says,
it's never been this bad, and actually it's down from
(02:43):
what it was last year. But who cares about the numbers.
The district of Columbia where I am now is the
fifth most dangerous in terms of violent crime in the country.
That's an embarrassment. It's a disgrace. And I get the
Home rule, but DC has always had limited Home rule powers.
(03:03):
And if this can help at all, and now Trump
wants to extend it beyond thirty days, why it makes
the Democrats appear like they don't really care about crime,
they only care about the politics of it. And I
just think it's disgraceful.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
What do you make of these allegations that Senator Adam
Shift approved leaking classified information to harm President Troum Powie.
I know you've been following this story.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yeah, it's a little hard for me to judge because
this is a whistleblower whose name we don't know, and
who first made these allegations several years ago. I do
think there's a little bit of a risk for the
president in that at the present moment, he seems to
be going after or having the Justice Department go after
a whole lot of his foot Atlantam he's and he's
(03:53):
not a fan of Shift, the Shift as he calls him.
But I think we have to take it seriously. And
I think there does seem to be an effort to
go after Letitia James and all of these people who
have basically tried to screw Trump over the years, I
(04:15):
think if you do too much of that, and you know,
it's not like the Justice Department just says, oh, hey,
let's go after Shift. You know, Trump is pushing him.
And the thing about Trump is like he's totally transparent
about it. He says the quiet part out loud. He says,
Barack Obama's guilty of treason. And you can agree, you
can disagree. But again coming back to the point that
even if people don't like this president, I don't agree
(04:38):
with his policies, you've got to give him credit for
being aggressive on crime, on Putin and a whole bunch
of other things.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
We're talking to Howard Kurtz. You're in d C.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Buck and I both have lived in DC. I went
to college there, Buck worked there. The Washington Post used
to dominate the city of Washington the way that very
few newspapers have ever dominated any city's overall media scene.
What how would you assess the Post and influence now?
How do you analyze what Jeff Bezos is trying to do?
(05:12):
How does the newspaper impact daily life in DC now
compared to how it might have in past generations.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
That's a great question. Unfortunately, as an alumnus of the
paper back when it was not quite so blatantly left leaning,
almost all the stars have left and they're blaming Bezos. Now.
I understand, you know, they don't like the idea that
Bezos wants certain editorial stances on the editorial piece. That
(05:43):
is his prerogative as the owner. But as I've watched
one after another after another, people leave. Is just not
the paper it was. Plus, newspapers are not as influential
overall as they were. You know, the postal up with
some good scoops, but it is kind of sad. I mean,
(06:06):
I think, you know, radio shows and podcasts are now
the new media that drive a lot of coverage. But
you can't drive all your you know, your best investigative reporters,
your best people who cover these beats. You can't drive
(06:27):
them all away and still claim to have an influential newspaper.
It's it's a sad situation. And obviously the Washington Post
is not the only place that faces this.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Can they rebuild? I mean, did you look at a
place like CNN, Howie, which you know I was. I
was a conservative contributor there a decade ago, And as
I say to people, there were others Kaylee MCANENNI when
I was there was another.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
She's an alumna of CNN.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
But they would actually have conservatives on. I know they've
started to have Scott Jennings because they've really they can't
and a few others. They can't just do this total
echo chamber situation that they've had under Biden and Trump
before that. But is it possible to fix these brands?
Would it require a total overhaul? Do they just think
that people will forget and they'll slowly but surely move
(07:17):
more toward sanity. What do you think happens?
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Like?
Speaker 1 (07:20):
How can you advise a place as somebody who follows
the media closely, how do you advise a place like
CNN if you were asked to win back. I'm not
saying to get the conservative audience. I'm just saying to
be able to look people in the eye and say
we're actually a news network.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Again.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Well, sure, you can rebuild by going out and aggressively
hiring people and turning them loose. Same thing at the
Washington Post. But you got to be willing to spend
the money. Jeff Bezos, I, by my calculation, has a
lot of money.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
So that's true.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, Clay and I checked on that. Jeff Bezos got
a pack that as a fact check is accurate.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Yes, yes, but you got to be.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Willing to spend it. And you know, a lot of
places are just worried about their profit margins these days.
You know, the business model has kind of collapsed, especially
for a place like CNN. Yeah, it's like fifty liberals
and Scott Jennings. At least they have Scott Jennings. But
I think that a lot of these places just don't
(08:19):
get it, Like they bring in these new CEOs and
they just want to fatten the profit margins. Well, you know,
you've got to invest money in journalism in order to
have an audience. And if you don't do that, then
you're just kind of skating along. And it just seems
to me that the world has changed. Digital media has changed.
(08:43):
Everybody's got all this stuff on their phones, and you've
got to really rethink what you're doing because these places CNN,
I mean MSNBC as an example, when Trump announced the
crackdown on crime here in Washington, just completely went in
(09:04):
the opposition mode. No, he's not telling the truth. The
numbers are wrong. Well, it doesn't really matter if you're
being hard jacked. I know people this has happened to.
If people are afraid to walk the streets and then
you start arguing about numbers, it's just, you know, it's
like going into opposition mode. It's back into the resistance.
(09:24):
And I think that's what's happening with a number of
these mediats.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
We're talking about, Howard Kurtz Media Buzz on Fox News
every Sunday. Both Buck and I have been guests. Really
enjoy that you have the space to actually make arguments
on the show, to have real discussion. Thanks, and I
would suggest Howie that the discussion surrounding Trump and Putin
meeting tomorrow will likely be just an absolute mess because
(09:53):
of the past Russia collusion, the stories, and frankly much
of the hoax surround it. How can the media, if
people want to be informed, accurately cover anything happening with
Putin and Trump given all the mess of past Putin
Trump coverage, is there a way to actually do it
(10:15):
in a trustworthy manner at all?
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Well, you guys should go do the show from Alaska.
That's number one, definitely, because.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Clay Clay actually is desperate.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I'm being serious, He's desperate to go to Alaska because
I told him it's if you like the outdoors and
natural beauty, it's it's it's increating.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I want to go. Once you see a grizzly bear
in real life, you're like, oh, that's very interesting.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
We've got the governor, by the way, a little bit
of a tease here next hour of Alaska, who will
be with us talking about this situation? But how do
you cover it? Based on the failures of the media
in the past.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
I think it has less to do with the media's
insane over coverage of you know, Russia, Russia, Russia than
it does with what appears to be happening. I mean,
a week ago, Trump was a gung hole about this,
and there has been a dramatic lowering of expectations where
he says, well, we'll have the first meeting, but it's
(11:09):
just a listening exercise, and if its first being goes well,
we'll get to the second meeting. He's also got Zelenski
not going along, So I think, you know, Trump loves
this sort of face to face negotiation, big TV spectacle
with world leaders. I did it with the King Juan Un,
for example. But he's got to have something to show
(11:29):
for it, and I think you know, he'll come out
and do the big joint press conference, and if it
looks like he's at least started a process where there
could be a cease fire in this brutal and bloody
war started by war criminal Vladimir Putin, then I think
he'll get good coverage. And if it looks like it's
(11:50):
just a small step and they haven't really done much,
then will the people in the press will question whether
it was worth fighting this dictator onto US soil.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
No doubt appreciate you being with us, Howie.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Thanks for making the time and we'll see as soon
on Media Buzz on Fox News.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Great to be here.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Thanks guys anytime. Yeah, I Alaska thing. Do you you
don't fish?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Do you clay? It's a good question, so U that's
usually not that's usually not.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Well.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
I mean I feel like you can't be a like
deletant fisherman, if that makes sense, because the people who
do fish are very very serious about it, and so
if you say, well, yeah, I like to fish, and
then they're like, what lures do you use? Well, So
I grew up My grandfather and uncle fished all the time.
(12:48):
It was their favorite thing. So I grew up going
out with them and fishing a lot. I have tried
to take my boys out when we go down to
the Gulf Coast to get out and fish. And we
have a lot of lakes in my neighborhood that people
maybe ponds is more accurate to describe it, but they're
stocked and you have to throw the fish back. But
my kids have enjoyed doing that so occasionally. But I
(13:10):
feel like fishing is one of those things that you
can't say you did occasionally. You either live and die
fishing or you never do it. But I do wish
if I went to Alaska, I would fish. I mean,
I went and learned how to h what's the fly fish?
I learned how to fly fish with buddies. We went
and did that. So if I went to Alaska, I
(13:31):
think I would fish for salmon. Answer your question, Yeah,
I think it's I think it's something you'd have to do.
I've done it before, and I tried a little fly like.
I also think this spinning, I think it's called spinning reel.
I'm a I'm not even an advanced beginner. I'm a
fishing beginner. I grew up fishing with my dad, who
is a fisherman and can do all the lures and
(13:52):
the stuff, and you know, he's been fishing all over
the world that he would just bring me and I
never got good at it. So he's to your point,
he's a fisherman. I'm somebody who's come along fishing with
him many times. But spinning reel versus fly fly to
me is a whole other you know. This is like, uh,
like the difference between bow hunting and rifle, you know,
and using a rifle. It's a big, big step up
(14:14):
in terms of the technique in the time. But yeah,
it's just awesome to be out there and see that
I've done. I think I told you this. I went
deep sea fishing for shark. I have caught a what
is the sailfish? I've been deep sea fishing for those
big you know sailfish. You can't keep them, but you
catch swordfish.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Sure. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
And and we took the boys out recently and did
red snapper, which is down on the Gulf. There's tons
of red snapping fishing. That was really really fun, and
we ate a lot of red snap.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
I think I know more about which fish to eat
because I ordered off menus then I do.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
How to catch them.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
But fair enough, years ago, new laws put you in
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Welcome back in a Travis buck Sexton show. I appreciate
all of you hanging out with us. We got some talkbacks.
Let's see here. Steve is upset in Orange County because
I keep saying the word, according to him, fabulous.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Uh, Clay fire away and this is Steven in Orange County, California.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Hey man, I'm just trying to help you out, but
if you really want to stop being an unk, you
need to quit trying to channel Patsy Stone.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
You say fabulous way too much.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Pal.
Speaker 6 (16:33):
Thanks for all you guys do, but Clay, get.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Yourself in order it.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
I don't even understand is that saying that it's an
old man thing to say fabulous or what word?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
And I don't understand. I didn't quite understand the dunk.
It was definitely a dunk attack or dunk attempt, but
I'm not sure that I really understood the dunk. I
would say this, you're what was the word that somebody
pointed out, because that you definitely do. But that's a
Tennessee thing you say, uh, appreciate, you appreciate.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Yeah, well that's an accents, that's a clay that's an
access that I don't know about the word choice thing
with fabulous, I do not, no doubt is a Clay
word choice.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
That fabulous is a Clay word choice. I I haven't
noticed that. I say fabulous very much. But I don't
even understand. The criticism was that that is an old
man word or it's a young person's word, and I'm trying.
I don't even understand.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
You.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
You got to be better at your criticism, Steve Joe.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
One of my favorite Clay Travis boys story is when
they called you an unk because I got to learn
that word and laugh at it at the same time.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
So that was good for They come after me, call
me an unk all the time. Joe and Claremont, Florida.
What you got for us?
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
What kind of sandwich was it? Anyway? Remember you can
indicte a ham sandwich. Let's see.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Oh, now there's a dad joke?
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Was it?
Speaker 4 (17:49):
I appreciate it can, in fact indicte a ham sandwich.
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Everybody. As always, senisor talkback.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Do a lot of talkbacks coming in on a whole
range of topics and we will get to those shortly.
I just want to note this was interesting. Milania Trump
has sued Hunter Biden for a billion dollars.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
You see this, Clay, Yeah, you should ask Carol Markowitz
about it because she is sitting about to talk with us.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
That was exactly I was up. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Carol Markowitz joins us now of the clam Buck podcast
network and she got to hear my intro of the
Milania lawsuit.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
But you know what, Carol, first of all, thanks for
being with us at the Carol Markowitz Show.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
You were just traveling abroad as we saw public as
I saw on Instagram. So I don't think I'm giving
away any secrets. Where were you and what was your
favorite place?
Speaker 6 (19:38):
I was in France. My middle son, who's twelve years old,
had a week long history competition in Paris. He came
home with a silver and bronze medal representing Florida.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
So very proud of this was by the way, didn't
you quiz us on some of the things that I mean?
This is like not hey, what year was Louisiana purchased
style history? This is like super nerd history stuff.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
Right, It's really hard, Like I don't know anything at
his competitions and his international ones, like in his regional ones,
I'll have some answers.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
But yeah, I would like to say that if Clay
and I teamed up, we would be able to give
him a run for his money. But I think I've
already suffered maybe a little overconfidence lately on something, so
I might have to might have to dial that back
and say, I think your boy heard.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
About a thousand mile an hour tennis swing.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Well no, no, no, no, no, not a thousand. Definitely,
that's definitely not gonna happen. We're looking for a hundred.
We're looking for a hundred, and you know this is good.
It's a little bit of like a middle aged guy
reality check. I might have to do a little bit
of lifting for a couple of weeks year. I you know,
I'm gonna I'm gonna make this happen one way or another.
This is like, this is like somebody who's who's decided
they're gonna dunk a dunk of basketball once. Not that
(20:45):
they're an NBA player, but they will get to a
place where they can one time dunk a basketball.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
That's kind of how I view it. Yeah, So all
the people who are like are like, pro serve one
hundred and twenty five.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
I'm like, I'm a middle age radio host who plays
tennis like twice a month.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Ever. Needs to calm down.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
But but here we go with let's get back to
Hunter Biden for one second year. This is this is
his response to the suit for Malania Trump.
Speaker 7 (21:10):
Play one, Ladies and gentlemen. The day of presidential litigation
has arrived. It's lawsuit time. In my hand is a
legal demand letter addressed to mister Hunter Biden from the
First Lady of the United States, demanding a retraction of
Channel five's video called Hunter Biden Returns, on which mister
Biden here makes some speculative comments about the relationship between
(21:33):
Jeffrey Epstein, Milania Trump, and Donald Trump. He didn't make
these claims out of nowhere. They come from another journalist
named Michael Wolfe, who is a biographer that actually spoke
to Jeffrey Epstein. But now here we are, and I've
got a billion dollar document in my hands because Missus
Trump is seeking one billion dollars in damages if we
don't take the video down and if Hunter here doesn't
(21:53):
issue a formal apology to Missus Trump. So now we're
here maybe to give you the platform to apologize to
the first Lady for your statements that you made about
her possible connection to Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Fat that's not going to happen.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
WHOA.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
So it looks like, see here's the thing. Is it
tough guy, Hunter? Or is it this guy's got nothing
to lose? And I mean quite literally, like what cash
does he have?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Anyway? What do you make of this?
Speaker 6 (22:22):
Well, I think like three Hunter Biden paintings should cover
that billion. And that's the price they used to go
for when his dad was president. I don't know if
that's still the rate of those paintings today. I love
the Milania is doing this. This is a new era
of Milania Trump where she just doesn't take anything from anyone.
(22:45):
Love that she's going after him, Love that she's defending
herself and her husband. It's really I love to see it.
I think it's great, and I just it's a perfect
way for her to say, you will not be spreading
lives about me. You will not be telling tales about me.
Don't think you can get away with it just because
you know your dad was president.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
We and Trump it took over the entire news cycle
this week by deciding that he was going to lower
the crime rate in DC and that it was unacceptable.
I still remain stunned that Democrats have fallen for the
crime is not actually that bad or uh, this is
totally unnecessary, angle are you? I mean, because it seems
(23:27):
so tone deaf. Even Joe Scarborough called him out today
on MSNBC and said, look, ninety one percent of DC
residents say crime is a big problem. I think trying
to lower crime is not particularly political. I mean, it's
crazy to me that they took the tack that they did.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
It is insane. And you know, look, when I left
New York three years ago, it was partially because crime
was getting bad, and that was just a part of it.
But the real thing was that nobody would admit it.
Like when you said to your you know, on a
neighborhood chat on a one of those boards online, Hey,
I'm getting worried crime is getting bad. All the responses
(24:03):
would be like, no, what are you talking about. Crime
is not getting bad. You're being lied to by Fox
News and et cetera. It was a very standard thing
to deny that anything was happening, and that's what the
media people are used to. They're used to just saying
we can't admit this is happening. If we admit this
is happening, that means our philosophy of governing has failed.
(24:23):
And that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Actually.
Speaker 6 (24:25):
It's the fact that when democrats are in charge and
they make crime basically legal, crime goes up, and that's
the way it goes. So I'm not at all surprised
that that's where the media went In twenty twenty when
the riots were going on, tons of media people would say, Oh,
I'm meeting a burrito in this park and I don't
see any rioters here, and that was what they went
(24:46):
with as a argument for don't worry about this. American
people are too smart for that. At this point, even
the mayor of DC is welcoming the help. So I
think the media has found itself really out of step
with the American public.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yet again, it reminded us Carol Clinton. I talked about
a couple days ago of the Obrago Garcia moment where
everyone on CNM was.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Like, can you believe that this alleged, alleged.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
MS thirteen gang member involved in human trafficking and one
of the most violent and horrific gangs in America, who's
definitely an illegal was deported from this country.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
What kind of a country is this?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Everyone's looking around like that sounds like a great idea, Like,
what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (25:25):
They completely lit themselves on fire with that one.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
Yep, yeah, that's right. They just keep thinking that it's
twenty twenty and they can get away with saying this
kind of thing, and the American people will just, you know,
be too afraid to admit that there's a problem here
with legal immigration or any of it. And I just
think Americans have had enough. They had five years of
you were not allowed to say what you're really thinking,
and you had to monitor your language, and you weren't
(25:50):
allowed to have certain opinions. And now they're free, and
there's a vibe shift and Donald Trump's president, and they're
not having it anymore.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Where do we go from here with the Friday meeting
between Putin and Trump? We were just talking with Howard Kurtz,
who does the media buzz I actually think? Because of
all the Russia collusion laws, it makes media coverage of
any meeting between Trump and Putin almost impossible because they
(26:20):
failed to analyze honestly this relationship for so long that
even saying something honest today would feel boy who cries wolf?
So how should the media at large approach this meeting
face to face between Trump and Putin? And how do
you think they will compared to what they should do?
Speaker 6 (26:41):
So I think that they should approach it as Donald
Trump wants to help and bloodshed. He wants to help
end a war that has been going on for a
long time, and in a lot of ways it has
been at a stalemate where people are dying needlessly. How
they will cover it is that Trump is Putin's stooge
and he's in his pocket, and any kind of concession
(27:03):
to Putin at all would be, you know, just the
absolute worst thing that could ever happen. Now. I am
not a fan of Russia. I was born in Russia.
I have no love for the place. I am very
anti Putin. So I say this as somebody who you know,
if I could wave my magic wand Ukraine wins today
and that's it. But that's not what we have. We
have an ongoing war of people from both sides have
(27:25):
been dying at astonishing rates for years now. So if
Donald Trump can bring an end to this, that should
be what the media would want. They should want a
win for Donald Trump because that win means a win
for the Russian people, for the Ukrainian people, and for
America to be able to play that role on the
world stage. You know, in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Carol, we haven't had a chance to talking about this
yet on the show, but there's been far It's been
less coverage of it lately, but for a couple of
weeks there in particular, there was this very widespread and
not just among the usual like globalized, the Intofada, left
wing people who hate, you know, everything Israel does is terrible.
America's on puppet strings with Israel pulling all that all that, right,
(28:11):
I'm not talking about those people, we can.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
We know where they are on this.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I'm the ones who were calling for a ceasefire on
October eighth, you know, like then that's that's a separate thing.
There were people on the right, though, who were also
very loud about an intentional starvation campaign in Gaza, and
intentional Now Netan Yahoo has said this is of course
he's the he's the Prime Minister of Israel, so we
know what he's gonna say. But he has come out
(28:37):
very clearly and said, look, there's been some shortages. There's
no campaign of starvation. If we wanted to, we could
just kill everybody in Gaza in a day. Obviously, we're
trying to feed them.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
What what do you like?
Speaker 1 (28:46):
How did this get to the point where so many
people thought that they were bringing a quote genocide and
a quote famine to the to the place where they
thought that that was actually what was going on, including
people on the right.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
I've been referring to those people as marks, and that's
what they are. They're the marks for this kind of propaganda.
They fell for a picture on the cover of The
New York Times of a starving child in Gaza, who obviously,
and you didn't need me to know very much about
the conflict to know that The New York Times is
lying here the obviously this child had some mother issues.
(29:21):
His overweight mother is holding him, and they cut his
healthy looking brother out of the picture. But you know,
anytime you see a well fed mom and a starving baby,
understand that you're being lied to. There's not a mom
in the world who's not going to feed her child
before herself. So you know, I was actually in France
(29:42):
when that story broke. It set me so much because
I saw kind of people that I think are good people,
but like, I'll never ever look at them the same
way again because they fell for the story. Like how
dumb do you need to be to believe the New
York Times propaganda on this kind of stuff, And the
idea that Israel star of the population of Gaza is
(30:03):
so ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
If you know.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
Anything about israelis israelis care far more about the Palestinians,
and the Palestinian leadership cares about the Palestinians, so it's
definitely not reality. Israel is continually sending aid, which you know, frankly,
I don't think is the right thing to do in
a lot of the cases in war to send aid
to your enemy. But this is the situation that Israel
(30:25):
finds itself in They're expected to do insane things, to
go above and beyond, to do things that no other
country would do, to get the most minimum support. And
still all these countries around the world are recognizing some
state of Palestine to reward the Palestinians and Hamas who
did October seventh. They win if that's the case, they win,
if they get a state at the end of this.
(30:46):
It's really sad, and I really was very just disheartened
to see people on the right be the marks for
this kind of propaganda. And I hope they don't continue
to fall for things, but I'll never trust those people again.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
We're talking to Carol Markowitz, New York Posts. Last question
for you, Carol, I had a funny one because Denzel
Washington went off on the went off on the Cowboys,
and I know your husband's a big Cowboys fan and
your sons and you know they're never gonna win anything,
and I understand why that's tough.
Speaker 6 (31:17):
Hey Titans fan, all right, yeah, well.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
We don't even attempt to try to defend the Titans
at this point. But on a more interesting note, I
thought you lived in New York City like Buck for
a long time, Buck and I have debated how people
who are not Mom Donnie supporters and people who truly
think that he would be an awful choice should handle this,
and I took the tack of, hey, you know what
(31:41):
sucks for New York City, but at least if he wins,
that's a for nationwide for the midterms next year. He
is a face of socialism, face of communism. New York's
gonna suffer, but the rest of the country might be
more likely to vote against Democrats. Are you in that
camp or are you in the camp of we have
(32:01):
to do everything we can to save Democrats from themselves.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
Ooh so tough, because I really am between it, because
I have families still in New York who all are
trying to vote themselves to sanity, but keep having the
roadblock of this kind of thing come up. I think
if he wins, he will be the poster child for
Republicans going into the midroom saying, look what happened you
look at this guy. But because Trump has done such
an incredible job on the border, the New York City
(32:27):
just closed its last migrant hotel because they simply don't
have enough people coming in anymore. So he might be
able to skate for a little while and make it
seem like New York's really not doing that bad under
his leadership. I'm a little worried about the strategy of
using him in that case, because I really do think
he can make it seem like New York is doing
just fine. And look all the hysterics. You know, we're
(32:49):
so wrong about how I was going to go.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
But Carol just jump in. That's what the Glasio inheriting exactly.
A great situation from for the first, you know, three
or four years of the blog was what are you
guys talking about? The city's super safe, everything's great, and
we kept saying, your policies are moronic.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
It's going to get bad. It's going to get bad.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
And then by the time it all got really bad,
it was too late to just sort of turn the
spigot off and it was a mess.
Speaker 6 (33:14):
Exactly. So, Mom, Donnie has a very similar situation where
the police chief Tish is very respected among police officers,
she's doing a great job, murder rate is way down,
so he might be able to carry that kind of wind,
which is funny that Eric Adams can't run on it successfully.
He brought murder rates down to a very low level
in New York City. He should be proud of that.
(33:34):
He should be running on that, but I don't even
know where he is. So it's interesting because it's exactly
that same situation as Glasio. He might be able to
just make it appear that look nothing bad has gone
on under my leadership, but we know from the Deblasio
years that that simply can't last. It might be after
the midterms, though, so I'd be wary of him being
the mayor.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Carol outstanding stuff as always, appreciation coming on. Encourage everybody
to sign up for the podcast. I think I'll be
your guest next week. So there you go. That's something
to be fun.
Speaker 6 (34:04):
Thanks so much, Clays.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
All right, thank you for coming on with us. That's
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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. All right,
final hour of the show coming up here in just
a bit. We're gonna have some fun with some of
your talkbacks. Orlando is reacting the guy called in trying
to dunk on me for using the word fabulous too often.
He's trying to analyze it too. By the way, Trump
is talking live about the ninetieth anniversary of Social Security
(35:38):
in the Oval Office. We will bring you some of
those cuts when we come back in the next hour.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
But here is.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Pia from Orlando, Florida.
Speaker 8 (35:47):
What you got, Hi, guys, I just found it interesting
that some guy was trying to dunk on Clay for
apparently saying fabulous and he said that he sounded like
Patsy Stoned. But last time I checked, the only people
who know who Patsy Stone is are people who watch
Absolutely Fabulous or ab fab which are mostly women and
(36:09):
gay men.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
I didn't see that coming the way. She just like
subtly sliced him to death there at the end. With
that final sentence, Pia just said, basically, Hey, that guy
who is making fun of you is either gay or
a woman. And wow, just out of nowhere, a visceration.
When we come back. Speaking of a visceration, tennis pros
are weighing in on Bucks Serve, Andy Roddick, John is Nerve,
(36:38):
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