May 14, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show delivers a dynamic mix of political analysis, foreign policy updates, and cultural commentary, with a strong focus on Donald Trump’s recent diplomatic and economic achievements. The hosts open the hour by celebrating what they describe as a “world tour of winning” for Trump, highlighting his efforts to secure up to $1 trillion in Middle Eastern investment into the U.S. economy. They emphasize the positive impact on inflation, the stock market, and consumer prices—especially the sharp drop in egg prices, the largest since 1984.
The conversation shifts to Trump’s foreign policy wins, including potential breakthroughs in U.S.-China trade relations, normalization of ties with Syria, and mediation efforts between India and Pakistan. Clay and Buck also discuss reports of a possible face-to-face meeting between Ukrainian President Zelensky and Russian President Putin in Istanbul, contingent on Trump’s attendance. They argue that Trump’s diplomacy is reshaping global alliances, particularly by isolating Iran and strengthening U.S. ties with Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar, and Israel.
The hosts contrast Trump’s foreign policy successes with what they describe as the failures of the Biden administration, particularly in Afghanistan and Ukraine. They criticize Secretary of State Antony Blinken and question the lack of any clear foreign policy victories under Biden.
Later in the hour, Clay and Buck welcome HUD Secretary Scott Turner, who discusses the Trump administration’s housing priorities, including rolling back Biden-era regulations, restoring local control over zoning, and addressing homelessness and disaster recovery. Turner also outlines HUD’s new policy on gender-specific shelters, affirming that only biological women can access women’s shelters funded by HUD. He praises Trump’s stance on protecting women’s spaces and sports, drawing from his own experience as a former NFL player.
The hour wraps up with a lighthearted segment on the universal struggle of husbands navigating grocery store trips, offering comic relief and relatable anecdotes about shopping mishaps and the complexities of modern consumer choices.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off now, and
let's just take a moment to remember something. Trump is
not tired of winning. He is on a world tour,
well a mid East tour, but a world tour of winning,
if you will. And he's talking about a lot of
things that are going to be I think, big wins
for the country, which is the most important thing of all.
(00:23):
So we got about six hundred billion dollars of Sauding
investment I think that he says has been now committed
to the US. He's trying to pick up a trillion
dollars of direct investment from foreign countries in the midiest
into the United States stock market. Oh man, it's looking
so good. All of a sudden, everyone, they're four to one.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Case I remember a few weeks. So these are people's retirements.
You're destroying, right.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I mean the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
And eggs to buck, like inflation, all of the things
that they have tried to turn into like sort of
things to weigh down the Trump president with they've all collapsed.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Eggs are coming back down. I saw this morning.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I was reading this is the biggest drop in egg
prices in a month since nineteen eighty four. The stock
market is now positive for the year, which is, hey,
what are you going to argue there?
Speaker 1 (01:14):
We got to your point. Middle East? Like everything they
try to hit him with it just blows back up
in their face. Yeah, I mean, and they're they're talking
so much about this the jet gift thing. You know,
I'm just gonna tell you, it's just hard for me
to pretend to care enough about these things when they
get what about the emolument's clause? Okay, well, I remember
(01:35):
when the Washington Post was writing stories about how the
emoluments clause was in violation. Do you remember this clay
at the Trump hotel Because they did an analysis and
there were foreign you know, basically embassy staff, ambassadors, whatever,
(01:56):
who were eating and drinking at the Trump hotel, and
they were saying, this is a violation because if if
the attache from Madagascar has a bacon cheeseburger, maybe he
can get Trump to change foreign policy. Like it was
crazy stuff that they were pushing. Now, Yeah, a three
hundred million dollar jet is much a much bigger gift
(02:20):
than the profit margin on a cheeseburger. When you own
a hotel and they have to pay the staff and everything.
My point merely being, it's just hard at this point.
How much am I gonna sit around and, oh my gosh,
you see what's doing Trump the hysteria stuff. I can't,
I just I can't do it right. I can't get
myself to care about these things that they're trying to
(02:41):
tell us to care so much about. But we should
look at some of the other wins that Trump has
racked up. You see, a federal judge is ruled in
favor of the alien Ennis Alien Enemies Act deportation. The
Milwaukee County judge Hannah Dugan, remember her, the I'm going
to hide the illegal in my courtroom because federal law
(03:03):
doesn't apply to me, as some you know rinky dink
judge up in up in Wisconsin. She is she has
been indicted by a grand jury for basically aiding and
abetting a you know, a person who's on the run
in her courtroom. I think that's a win. So you've
(03:23):
got all this. You've got inflation lower than expected. I
think we mentioned that yesterday, but it came in at
what like two point four percent or something inflation. Just
imagine what this economy starts to look like as you
get more trade deals play and a few basis points
get dropped from this or you know, they start dropping
rates just put it. Put it simply. I think these
(03:44):
are all the kinds of wins that Trump is going
to be able to rack up. And and then there's
also the drug probably.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Look.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Trump was on with a friend Sean Hannity last night.
Shawn's traveling with him through the Middle East. I thought
this is really interesting. He's talking about opening up China
US businesses. This is cut thirteen. Play it.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
One of the things I think they could be most
exciting for US and also for China is that we're
trying to open up China because as you know, many
years ago we opened up the USA. Now it's time
for China to open up. And that's part of our deal,
and we're going to open up China. To me, that's
the most exciting part.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
But yeah, we made a deal.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
The relationship is very good. I've always had a good
relationship with President she It was interrupted because of COVID, obviously,
but outside of that, I've always had a great relationship,
a lot of respect for him, and we'll see.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
How that all works out.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
But we have the confines of a very very strong
deal with China.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Players we get more details about this. We don't really
have any details right now, but they're going to have
to provide something. We're going to hear more about this.
I think that Look, I don't want to get ahead
of things, but it just feels like that Trump team
is simultaneously firing on all cylinders and also keeping things
pretty much on schedule. You know, they're moving at the
(05:07):
pace that they said they'd be moving and getting things
done the way they said they would from the start.
Let's just think about this.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Because you worked in the CIA, You've spent a lot
of time overseas. One of the big criticisms of Trump
for much of his political career is that he isn't
able to handle foreign affairs. That's probably one of the
they we're going to get into World War three.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
He has no idea what he's doing.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Let's just think buck in the last week, what he
has helped to accomplish. First of all, Marco Rubio is
doing an amazing job. He has forty eight different jobs
inside of the government right now. But it didn't get
very much attention. You mentioned it on the show quite
a lot last week. But I do think It's significant
that India and Pakistan not really great historic friends. They
(05:55):
were in danger of having a conflict spiral out of control.
Trump engaged in some form of mediation to help settle
that situation down in potentially tomorrow, in Istanbul, we may
have the first face to face meeting between Zelenski and
Putin since Putin invaded Ukraine in what February or March
(06:19):
of twenty twenty two, whenever that initial invasion started, if
I remember correctly, and they are only meeting there according
to reports, if Trump will show up, so they're begging
Trump to go to Istanbul. We also have Trump normalizing
relations with Syria, which is being seen even by Trump
(06:40):
critics as a potential stroke of genius that could massively
aid stabilization in the Middle East by cutting off the
long term relationship of Iran, which was basically using Syria
as a proxy terror state and helping along with Russia
to prop up Asad, the day Tator, who has now
(07:00):
been removed. Okay, I'm just kind of giving people a
little bit of a rundown here. You get the final
American terrorist who's been held for something like five hundred
and eighty days edon Alexander hostage, sorry, held by terrorist
eton Alexander, the final American innocent back. And you also
(07:21):
potentially get the trade deal done with China. Any one
of those that I just ran through would be typically huge,
monumental one week or more stories. Trump has done them all,
not to mention getting trillions of dollars potentially in aid
and commitment from Middle Eastern countries like the UAE, like Qatar,
(07:43):
like Saudi Arabia to invest in American business.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
That seems like a pretty good few days. And I
do think as well, you can already lay out more initiatives, conversations,
ideas that have some of that has already I viewed.
The border is actually a international relations issue, right. We
think of it very much as it's so much tied in.
(08:06):
It's the economy, it's domestic and national security, it's it's
all these different things. But especially when you have a
border Clay that had almost two hundred nations people arriving
at illegally. I think the final number from border patrol
I saw was like one eighty something, right, I mean
there's not that many countries in the world, so you
got illegalists from all over the world and now they're
(08:27):
trying to figure out how to get them back, and
that requires foreign relations, and that requires using pressure, carrots
and sticks, and that has already been a massive success.
That alone is more than I can attest to for
four years of the Biden administration sending the absolutely hapless
and professionally worthless. Maybe he's a nice man, professionally worthless
(08:51):
Anthony Blincoln as Secretary of State to do what I mean,
if you we sit here and we talk so much
about Biden's dementia, it's worth remember berring everyone this, this
team was president for four years. What is the one
win that you can point to on foreign policy? And
I know some of you are already shouting, look at
the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan? How they did that? No,
(09:14):
we all know that. I'm saying, you find me the
one win that they have on the world stage that
you could point what getting us embroiled in the endless
supplying of a war between Russia and Ukraine that Russia
is slowly winning and choking off Ukraine and killing a
generation of Ukrainian fighters? Like what exactly was Biden able
(09:35):
to accomplish? And I mean his team really, because we
all know about Biden himself. And then you see what
Trump is claimed work one hundred and I don't one
hundred and twenty or something days into the administration or
less than that. And already you're talking about a true
strategic shift in our relationship with China, which is I mean,
the EU is the largest economy in the world, right,
(09:55):
but if we break it down, it's US and then
it's China by nation state. That's a bit deal. And
we're not even talking about this stuff from from the
Mid East and the trillion dollars of investment that he's
gonna be bringing in from there.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
I also think and it has not been recognized, and probably, uh,
that's because a lot of people are morons. He's also
now strategically really isolated Ran and given himself substantial leeway
when it comes to negotiating this new deal. And let
me explain in basically one minute what I mean by this.
(10:27):
Syria is now going to be viewing Trump as a hero.
They certainly view Saudi Arabia as heroic for helping to
get them off of the sanctions list.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
As I said, he pulled off the sanctions, which means
Syria now has a chance. Let's see what this country
can do. Let's see what the new leadership of Syria
can do. There's been a big opening here for them.
You know, you wanna do good things, Trump's gonna bring
good things to you. You wanna play stupid games, You're gonna
win stupid prizes.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Great relationship, even better maybe than it's ever been with
Audi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar, Syria. We know that historically
Israel is an ally of the United States. I would
submit to you that Trump has now given himself the leeway,
if necessary, to have strikes against Iran and not have
(11:18):
other parts of the Middle East react and say, oh
my goodness, what in the world is Trump doing. Iran
is really really isolated now, but Caaseiria is not going
to care. Certainly, Saudi Arabia doesn't want a nuclear powered Iran,
The UAE doesn't want that, Qatar doesn't want that, Israel
(11:39):
doesn't want that. They may be coming from different perspectives,
but they're all aligned now with the United States in
the Middle East. We have managed to kind of in
the Ghostbusters analogy, Buck bring cats and dogs together to
marshal them against Iran. And you've been over there, when's
the last time you even heard of story about Iraq?
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yeah, I mean, what the I don't even I mean,
I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
You used to read twenty stories a day about what
was going on in Iraq when we were spending wasting,
unfortunately trillions of dollars on Iraq. I can't even tell
you what is going on in Iraq? Do you have
any I don't really have any clue. Remember when we
killed Solamani, it was, oh my god, World War three
is gonna happen. I don't remember the last time Iraq
had any sort of major say on the larger geopolitical stage.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I mean, you haven't seen in a rock story in
in quite some time, and I think it's kind of
limping along as a country, but it has, it has certainly.
Uh yeah, it's dropped out of the headlines. I can't
even think of the last story that we talked about
this on the show about Iraq, but on the Iran
isolation from the world. I mean, the problem and I
think you can see this very clearly. The Obama administration
(12:52):
essentially gave up all other possible wins in the Middle
East and had created a disaster. I mean, I would.
I could do a three hour show right now at
the top of my head on what a disaster Obama's
foreign policy, which Biden was in charge of, by the way, allegedly,
what a disaster Obama's foreign policy was. And even Democrats,
some of them were like, this is just I can't
(13:14):
this is so indefensible and on so many levels it
was atrocious. But it was all to get Iran further
in meshed in the international system, give them essentially inducements
for better behavior. It did not work. Iran did not
behave better And I know people say, oh, well Trump
got us out of it. Yeah, because he saw where
this was going. He saw what the inducements got us,
(13:37):
which is this, this is a corrupt and evil regime.
There's no there's no turning it around with them. Now.
This is who the Mullahs are, so to speak, It's
who the IRGC is. And And there, I think is
just the understanding that Trump has on foreign policy of
who are friends, who are enemies? How do we treat them?
(13:58):
Do they know? The difference and the with Trump to
those questions is quite clear.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I think.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
I think that's one hundred percent right. You know what
I mean? You know Trump knows who the good guys are,
who the bad guys are. That sounds so simple, But
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On the Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck podcast, Welcome
back in Clay, Travis, Buck Sexton show, a lot of
you weighing in variety of different talkbacks. Maybe we'll have
some fun get some of these we well, actually we've
got what the HUD secretary with us right coming up
at the bottom of the hour. Here in just a
couple of minutes, Scott Turner and in the third hour,
I'm really kind of fascinating you and I were talking
(16:46):
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life in prison. We're gonna Paul Murrow, who was on
what a couple of weeks ago with us, Right, he's
covering this trial like in the courtroom, I think, right, Yeah, he.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Was my boss at the Intel Division of the NYPD.
So it feels like life has come full circle fifteen
years later.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
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Speaker 1 (17:27):
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(19:03):
Development HUD Secretary Scott Turner. Mister Secretary, I appreciate you
making time for us today.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Oh okay, well he will make time for us. If
not now he was there second ago. We'll bring him
back up the team that Trump has put together. Buck,
I think we have talked about this quite a bit
on the cabinet. We've had most of the cabinet on
this program at this point in time, and you and
I are.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Going to be up in DC some in June.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
I'm gonna be up there for a couple of weeks,
and I imagine we'll get the rest of the cabinet
that we haven't had on at that point in time.
But I think that there's movement on all the different fronts.
We were talking about all the international moves that Trump
is making. One thing that Trump is very focused on
is what's going on with Washington, d C.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
In particular.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
We talked about the United States Attorney He's now nominated
Judge Janine to replace Attorney Martin, who we had on
I think last week, if I remember correctly, who has
done a great job. It's getting safer, violence is declining,
people are coming back to work, and a big part
of that is just making Washington, d C. For those
(20:16):
of you who have been or are going to be
going in the near future, a place where you can
go and feel safe and feel proud of the United
States because it is not a cesspool of violence. And unfortunately,
what we saw in the last decade or so was
the DC violent crime rate ticked back up massively skyrocketed
(20:37):
during the Biden tenure. And now Trump is back in.
They're prosecuting violent criminals and they are beginning to decline
the overall amount of violence associated with our nation's capital.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
It's always worth remembering and those of you who have
traveled to other places around the world, whether there are
places there are I mean, there are countries I don't
mean there are neighborhoods. There are entire nations where crime
is not a thing that people talk about or worry about.
And so when you start from this, you know, one
of the problems I think we've had in America is
that there's this belief that just maybe seeps into your
(21:11):
mind after a while that oh, well, we just there's
a lot of crime here, and that's just the way
it has to be, because like, we can't conquer this problem,
or we can't make it much better than it is. Well,
it's a little bit like what people are saying, the
border is such a mess, we can never fix it. No,
you can, and crime actually can be dramatically lower than
(21:31):
it is as well. We know what the steps are,
we know what the tools are. It's just about having
the political will to do it and to address some
of these challenges in society in a well we got
them back. Okay, Well, my crime lecturer will wait for
another time. Here we have now the HUD Secretary of
Scott Turner, miss our Secretary Turner. Good to have you answer.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
Hey, great to be with you, guys, claim Bugs, So
thankful for you guys having me on.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Oh we appreciate you, sir. So let's dive into this.
Does how does HUD play in the realm of the
men and women's sports issue, something we talk about here
a lot on the show. I mean, I know that
there's a Biden equal access rule and h and that
affects HUD funded providers like shelter services and others. How
(22:21):
has the policy changed when it comes to HUD on
men and women's spaces in general.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
What that's a great question, and you alluded to the
equal access rule. We took that rule down. That was
a Biden era rule. We took that rule down on
day one. And what it says now is that men
and women, So if you are a biological female, you
are allowed to go into female HUD funded shelters. But
(22:51):
if you are not a biological female, you are no
longer able or allowed to enter into HUD funded facilities,
including shelters that are for females.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
This is for our females only.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
And you know, the President, I'm so grateful for him
restoring biological truth back to our country. If you are
a female at birth, if you are a male at birth,
there's only two sexes, male and female.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
That's a biological truth. That's a biblical truth.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
And so we're very proud here at HUD to protect
the ladies of our country. And when you talk about
men and women's sports, you know, guys, I have four sisters,
I have a wife, I have a mother. All of
my sisters and I have nine nieces. They were all
athletes and they spent painstak and time to prepare to
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train to compete against other females and not to compete
against males. And so I'm grateful for the President's leadership
on this. I'm a one hundred percent supporter of men
should compete against men, women should compete against women. At HUD,
we're upholding that truth when it comes to our HUD frond,
the facilities.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Secretary, you played nine years in the NFL. What percentage
of NFL players do you think are against men being
able to compete in women's sports?
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Man?
Speaker 5 (24:12):
If I just had to guess, I would say one
hundred percent. You know, being playing in the NFL, you know,
and being in that locker room, playing against the best
athletes in the world. Just from a common sense standpoint, yep,
to have a lady compete in the NFL or contact
(24:36):
football against men that literally could take your life or
hurt you real bad.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
That just makes no sense.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
And so I would hope to say that it'll be
one hundred percent of guys, but it would.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Be a crazy percentage.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
And my argument has been the higher level athletics you
have played. I think every guy who plays high school, college,
obviously very small percentage goes on like you did to
play in the pro. But the more of an athlete
you are, the crazier I think you think.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
This is absolutely I agree.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
You know, when you go from high school to college
to the pros, the level of competition, the strength, the speed,
the attitude, you know, there's no comparison. And so I
think that guys like I said before, that in an
NFL locker room or in an NBA locker room or
Major League Baseball locker room, they are you know, we
think the same. And when you break it down just
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to the training, the type of training that we do,
and you know, we have ladies that are in professional
sports that train vigorously, that train that.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Are so committed.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
But when it comes to game and competition, women should
compete against women and men should compete against men. You know,
I saw videos of a precious volleyball girl. I can't
remember her name. She was a female planner in a
volleyball match and there was a transgender man, I guess
on the other side, and he hates fighting.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
I think was her name. It s already cut you
off at Pa Knab.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
I think you're right that video went viral, that dude
soaring up above the net and smashing the ball in
a way that a woman couldn't.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
That's it, I mean, end the story.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
You were just with the President in the Oval Office
for the announcement of the NFL Draft coming to d
C twenty twenty seven, new stadium being built for Washington's team.
You played for the Redskins back in the day. What
is the impact of that for d C and what
does the President's commitment mean for DC you think going forward?
Speaker 5 (26:37):
So yes, I'm very excited for the Red Scans on
now the Commanders to bring the stadium back to the
site where RFK is I played in RFK I was
drafted by the Red Scans. Just the excitement of the
team coming back to the Capitol, coming back to d C.
The anticipation is great. Even inside of the press conference,
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you could sense the energy in aipation from the owners,
from commission, a good day from the President and others
to have the stadium back. And so from a sports standpoint,
it will be tremendous. But also from an economic development
and a community development standpoint, this will make an impact
that it hasn't had in many in decades really since
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I played for the Red Skins. I played in the
last game in RFK and in the first game in
the stadium in Maryland. And so to bring that back
from a housing standpoint, from a commercial development standpoint, retail,
from a community engagement standpoint, economically, and from a personal
the people, the families will bring new life back to
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this area in DC.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
And so I'm very excited.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
I know the Redskins or Commander's organization is excited, and
the people in the capital are looking forward to that.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
So, as Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, what are
just some of the top initiatives that President Trump wants
you to pursue on behalf of his aministration while you're
in this role. I mean, because you know, HUD doesn't
tend to get the same headlines as a Treasury or
the State Department does, right, But what are some of
the things that you can do at HUD that would
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be maga.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Well, you're talking about housing.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
You know, housing impacts every family, every individual in our country,
all three hundred and fifty million people in this country.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Housing makes the impact.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
Housing is not political, it's not Republican, it's not democrat.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
You know, it's not red, it's not blue.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
We need about seven million units of housing in our country.
And while being we may not be in the headlines
that it pertains to the news media, what we do
on the daily basis impacts every American and so housing
affordability is a major priority for us. Taking down burden
some regulations, freeing up local control, local flexibility across our country,
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and providing the local mayors and economic development. You know,
every city is unique as it pertains the housing, and
so we've been working really hard and tearing down rules
such as the Affirmatively Further and Fair Housing rule, which
was a regional zoning issue here that Washington was telling
localities how they should zone their neighborhoods. So taking that
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down and restoring that back to the localities. Also when
it pertains the disaster recovery here, you know, we've had
major hurricanes and fires in La and in North Carolina,
and so we are on the front lines of helping
families to rebuild their families, their homes, their businesses.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
And so when you think.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
About HUD, think about people that are impacting families and
impacting individuals right where they are, being in housing bidding,
disaster recovery, being eradicating and attacking homelessness in our country.
And so that's what we're about, guys. We literally meet
people where they are. The media may not cover it
in such a way as they cover other agencies, but
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that's not what we're concerned about. To your point, where
we are concerned about is the assignment we have to
serve the American people that we've been caught to serve
and I have the best team in America to do so.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
We're talking to HUD's secretary, Scott Turner. You're in DC now,
how good is Jaden Daniels going to be?
Speaker 5 (30:15):
Jade And Daniels is a baller and I am super
proud of him.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
You know, he just goes to work. He's one of
those guys he doesn't talk about it, he just gets
it done.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
And what I'm really impressed about him one is his
character and the way that he carries himself on and
off the field, but also from a professional athlete, former
professional athlete standpoint, the game seems to be slow for him.
And that's really man, It's miraculous that even in his
rookie year, his control of the game, and how the
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game seemed to slow down for him, even in his
decision making and his checkdowns and having to grasp you know,
of the game in the NFL so quickly, is it's
pretty miraculous.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Well, we appreciate you coming on. And boy, I can't
wait to see what that new stadium is going to
look like. And I promise you that I will be
there for the draft in twenty twenty seven. That's going
to be an incredible scene, perfect location. I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Indeed, it's gonna be epic. I'll see you there.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
For sure, all right, appreciate that. That is another one
of the Trump's cabinet members, the h The HUD director
Scott Turner. Fantastic stuff there, I want to tell you.
Speaking of fantastic stuff, Buck, are you nervous? Are you
nervous about the Knicks fifty years not being able to
get things done? Are you getting nervous about tonight's game
where the Knicks can advance to the Eastern Conference Finals.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Maybe a little bit. I don't think it's you think
the series is over. I don't think the series is over.
I think it's easy for you, mister I live in Nashville,
to just make this assumption about my New York Knicks.
My New York Knicks never miss an opportunity, to miss
an opportunity.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
That is often, sadly the case. The Knick Celtics play tonight,
the Warriors, Timberwolves in the NBA. We've also got NHL
playoffs underway. Florida Panthers, they've done pretty well defending champs,
going up against the Maple Leafs, and you got the
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Speaker 2 (33:21):
Here.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
We got a bunch of people who want to weigh
in on a variety of different talkbacks. Joe from New
York City. Ee, let's hear it.
Speaker 6 (33:33):
You want to see something funny, go to the grocery
store on Thanksgiving money. You'll see twenty guys online with
one item getting what their wife forgot to get during
the week. And we all look scared to death as
we know we got the wrong thing.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
You know what I'm talking about, those of you missed.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Buck has found out that men gets into the grocery
store and can never find what their wife actually wants.
That thing about the number of products that are all
eerily similar and the label might be just a subtle
difference in color or whatever. I remember when we used
to do for the formula, you know, when we would
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we had the babies and my wife had stopped breastfeeding
or supplements or whatever else. I remember standing in front
of the supplement aisle for for babies the first time
that I did it, and I felt like I might
as well have been I mean, I had no idea
what I was doing, and all of them just have
a subtle little variation, a little bit different label, color,
(34:31):
a little bit different size, and even with a picture,
I'm gonna be honest, I struggled to know what I
was supposed to be getting. I think it was similar
back in the day.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
I asked you, when your wife says sends you for
fruit clay, which probably you know happens, and she says
you got the organic kind, right, is it really a
lie to just give yourself the benefit of the doubt
because it looks the same.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
I would say I would lie, and I wouldn't call
it a lie because it's possible. You did get the
organic kind.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Realize this is tie goes to the runner, in this
case the runner for the food. Well, this is like
the whole idea with apples. You know you're supposed to
wash them. Really like that that is going to solve everything.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
You know, you get like an apple, you like you
should put it underneath the underneath the the the sink
there for like, I don't know, ten seconds Like that
really is going to take care of everything. A lot
of the stuff that we do it I don't know
kind of ten second rule, isn't it. It's like, yeah,
ten seconds under the water, it's all fine, now okay.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Does that seem likely?
Speaker 3 (35:29):
I mean, if there's really bad pesticides on the apple,
is going to put it underneath the water for ten
seconds really substantially alter your health? Uh So a lot
of these things that we do, I'm not sure that
they have any benefit. I know that when my wife
has gone back when I have told her, hey, what
you sent me to find wasn't there, and she's like,
I don't buy that. At least twice that I can remember.
Once she went and she found it, which was not
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good because she found it.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Immediately you're in the doghouse, then that's bad.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Other times she couldn't find it, and I just remember
how stunned she was when she came. She was like,
it really really wasn't there. I do think that I
could be correct. Was just boggled her mind.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
She now sometimes will text me and then tell me
what to get a grocery store and then follow it
up with a photo because she knows if there's no photo,
I'm just gonna get whatever the food, the general food
product is. She sends me to get yogurt. Clay, I
feel like Indiana Jones with the bowler rolling boulder rolling
after him, you know, like such a great scene, you know,
(36:31):
and it's like I switched the wrong yogurt where the
idol goes or something, and now I'm gonna I can
never get the right yogurt. There's so many types, to
be fair, I'm rarely shopping for anything, so I just
don't even make the attempt at this point. But that's
because I've failed so many times that I can't be trusted.
We'll try out to fail anymore with you.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
At the top of the next hour, i'm gonna go
up to New York City where this Sean Colmes trial
is going on.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Really interesting. We'll discuss next
Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off now, and
let's just take a moment to remember something. Trump is
not tired of winning. He is on a world tour,
well a mid East tour, but a world tour of winning,
if you will. And he's talking about a lot of
things that are going to be I think, big wins
for the country, which is the most important thing of all.
(00:23):
So we got about six hundred billion dollars of Sauding
investment I think that he says has been now committed
to the US. He's trying to pick up a trillion
dollars of direct investment from foreign countries in the midiest
into the United States stock market. Oh man, it's looking
so good. All of a sudden, everyone, they're four to one.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Case I remember a few weeks. So these are people's retirements.
You're destroying, right.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I mean the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
And eggs to buck, like inflation, all of the things
that they have tried to turn into like sort of
things to weigh down the Trump president with they've all collapsed.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Eggs are coming back down. I saw this morning.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I was reading this is the biggest drop in egg
prices in a month since nineteen eighty four. The stock
market is now positive for the year, which is, hey,
what are you going to argue there?
Speaker 1 (01:14):
We got to your point. Middle East? Like everything they
try to hit him with it just blows back up
in their face. Yeah, I mean, and they're they're talking
so much about this the jet gift thing. You know,
I'm just gonna tell you, it's just hard for me
to pretend to care enough about these things when they
get what about the emolument's clause? Okay, well, I remember
(01:35):
when the Washington Post was writing stories about how the
emoluments clause was in violation. Do you remember this clay
at the Trump hotel Because they did an analysis and
there were foreign you know, basically embassy staff, ambassadors, whatever,
(01:56):
who were eating and drinking at the Trump hotel, and
they were saying, this is a violation because if if
the attache from Madagascar has a bacon cheeseburger, maybe he
can get Trump to change foreign policy. Like it was
crazy stuff that they were pushing. Now, Yeah, a three
hundred million dollar jet is much a much bigger gift
(02:20):
than the profit margin on a cheeseburger. When you own
a hotel and they have to pay the staff and everything.
My point merely being, it's just hard at this point.
How much am I gonna sit around and, oh my gosh,
you see what's doing Trump the hysteria stuff. I can't,
I just I can't do it right. I can't get
myself to care about these things that they're trying to
(02:41):
tell us to care so much about. But we should
look at some of the other wins that Trump has
racked up. You see, a federal judge is ruled in
favor of the alien Ennis Alien Enemies Act deportation. The
Milwaukee County judge Hannah Dugan, remember her, the I'm going
to hide the illegal in my courtroom because federal law
(03:03):
doesn't apply to me, as some you know rinky dink
judge up in up in Wisconsin. She is she has
been indicted by a grand jury for basically aiding and
abetting a you know, a person who's on the run
in her courtroom. I think that's a win. So you've
(03:23):
got all this. You've got inflation lower than expected. I
think we mentioned that yesterday, but it came in at
what like two point four percent or something inflation. Just
imagine what this economy starts to look like as you
get more trade deals play and a few basis points
get dropped from this or you know, they start dropping
rates just put it. Put it simply. I think these
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are all the kinds of wins that Trump is going
to be able to rack up. And and then there's
also the drug probably.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Look.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Trump was on with a friend Sean Hannity last night.
Shawn's traveling with him through the Middle East. I thought
this is really interesting. He's talking about opening up China
US businesses. This is cut thirteen. Play it.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
One of the things I think they could be most
exciting for US and also for China is that we're
trying to open up China because as you know, many
years ago we opened up the USA. Now it's time
for China to open up. And that's part of our deal,
and we're going to open up China. To me, that's
the most exciting part.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
But yeah, we made a deal.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
The relationship is very good. I've always had a good
relationship with President she It was interrupted because of COVID, obviously,
but outside of that, I've always had a great relationship,
a lot of respect for him, and we'll see.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
How that all works out.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
But we have the confines of a very very strong
deal with China.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Players we get more details about this. We don't really
have any details right now, but they're going to have
to provide something. We're going to hear more about this.
I think that Look, I don't want to get ahead
of things, but it just feels like that Trump team
is simultaneously firing on all cylinders and also keeping things
pretty much on schedule. You know, they're moving at the
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pace that they said they'd be moving and getting things
done the way they said they would from the start.
Let's just think about this.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Because you worked in the CIA, You've spent a lot
of time overseas. One of the big criticisms of Trump
for much of his political career is that he isn't
able to handle foreign affairs. That's probably one of the
they we're going to get into World War three.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
He has no idea what he's doing.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Let's just think buck in the last week, what he
has helped to accomplish. First of all, Marco Rubio is
doing an amazing job. He has forty eight different jobs
inside of the government right now. But it didn't get
very much attention. You mentioned it on the show quite
a lot last week. But I do think It's significant
that India and Pakistan not really great historic friends. They
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were in danger of having a conflict spiral out of control.
Trump engaged in some form of mediation to help settle
that situation down in potentially tomorrow, in Istanbul, we may
have the first face to face meeting between Zelenski and
Putin since Putin invaded Ukraine in what February or March
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of twenty twenty two, whenever that initial invasion started, if
I remember correctly, and they are only meeting there according
to reports, if Trump will show up, so they're begging
Trump to go to Istanbul. We also have Trump normalizing
relations with Syria, which is being seen even by Trump
(06:40):
critics as a potential stroke of genius that could massively
aid stabilization in the Middle East by cutting off the
long term relationship of Iran, which was basically using Syria
as a proxy terror state and helping along with Russia
to prop up Asad, the day Tator, who has now
(07:00):
been removed. Okay, I'm just kind of giving people a
little bit of a rundown here. You get the final
American terrorist who's been held for something like five hundred
and eighty days edon Alexander hostage, sorry, held by terrorist
eton Alexander, the final American innocent back. And you also
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potentially get the trade deal done with China. Any one
of those that I just ran through would be typically huge,
monumental one week or more stories. Trump has done them all,
not to mention getting trillions of dollars potentially in aid
and commitment from Middle Eastern countries like the UAE, like Qatar,
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like Saudi Arabia to invest in American business.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
That seems like a pretty good few days. And I
do think as well, you can already lay out more initiatives, conversations,
ideas that have some of that has already I viewed.
The border is actually a international relations issue, right. We
think of it very much as it's so much tied in.
(08:06):
It's the economy, it's domestic and national security, it's it's
all these different things. But especially when you have a
border Clay that had almost two hundred nations people arriving
at illegally. I think the final number from border patrol
I saw was like one eighty something, right, I mean
there's not that many countries in the world, so you
got illegalists from all over the world and now they're
(08:27):
trying to figure out how to get them back, and
that requires foreign relations, and that requires using pressure, carrots
and sticks, and that has already been a massive success.
That alone is more than I can attest to for
four years of the Biden administration sending the absolutely hapless
and professionally worthless. Maybe he's a nice man, professionally worthless
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Anthony Blincoln as Secretary of State to do what I mean,
if you we sit here and we talk so much
about Biden's dementia, it's worth remember berring everyone this, this
team was president for four years. What is the one
win that you can point to on foreign policy? And
I know some of you are already shouting, look at
the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan? How they did that? No,
(09:14):
we all know that. I'm saying, you find me the
one win that they have on the world stage that
you could point what getting us embroiled in the endless
supplying of a war between Russia and Ukraine that Russia
is slowly winning and choking off Ukraine and killing a
generation of Ukrainian fighters? Like what exactly was Biden able
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to accomplish? And I mean his team really, because we
all know about Biden himself. And then you see what
Trump is claimed work one hundred and I don't one
hundred and twenty or something days into the administration or
less than that. And already you're talking about a true
strategic shift in our relationship with China, which is I mean,
the EU is the largest economy in the world, right,
(09:55):
but if we break it down, it's US and then
it's China by nation state. That's a bit deal. And
we're not even talking about this stuff from from the
Mid East and the trillion dollars of investment that he's
gonna be bringing in from there.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
I also think and it has not been recognized, and probably, uh,
that's because a lot of people are morons. He's also
now strategically really isolated Ran and given himself substantial leeway
when it comes to negotiating this new deal. And let
me explain in basically one minute what I mean by this.
(10:27):
Syria is now going to be viewing Trump as a hero.
They certainly view Saudi Arabia as heroic for helping to
get them off of the sanctions list.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
As I said, he pulled off the sanctions, which means
Syria now has a chance. Let's see what this country
can do. Let's see what the new leadership of Syria
can do. There's been a big opening here for them.
You know, you wanna do good things, Trump's gonna bring
good things to you. You wanna play stupid games, You're gonna
win stupid prizes.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Great relationship, even better maybe than it's ever been with
Audi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar, Syria. We know that historically
Israel is an ally of the United States. I would
submit to you that Trump has now given himself the leeway,
if necessary, to have strikes against Iran and not have
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other parts of the Middle East react and say, oh
my goodness, what in the world is Trump doing. Iran
is really really isolated now, but Caaseiria is not going
to care. Certainly, Saudi Arabia doesn't want a nuclear powered Iran,
The UAE doesn't want that, Qatar doesn't want that, Israel
(11:39):
doesn't want that. They may be coming from different perspectives,
but they're all aligned now with the United States in
the Middle East. We have managed to kind of in
the Ghostbusters analogy, Buck bring cats and dogs together to
marshal them against Iran. And you've been over there, when's
the last time you even heard of story about Iraq?
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yeah, I mean, what the I don't even I mean,
I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
You used to read twenty stories a day about what
was going on in Iraq when we were spending wasting,
unfortunately trillions of dollars on Iraq. I can't even tell
you what is going on in Iraq? Do you have
any I don't really have any clue. Remember when we
killed Solamani, it was, oh my god, World War three
is gonna happen. I don't remember the last time Iraq
had any sort of major say on the larger geopolitical stage.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I mean, you haven't seen in a rock story in
in quite some time, and I think it's kind of
limping along as a country, but it has, it has certainly.
Uh yeah, it's dropped out of the headlines. I can't
even think of the last story that we talked about
this on the show about Iraq, but on the Iran
isolation from the world. I mean, the problem and I
think you can see this very clearly. The Obama administration
(12:52):
essentially gave up all other possible wins in the Middle
East and had created a disaster. I mean, I would.
I could do a three hour show right now at
the top of my head on what a disaster Obama's
foreign policy, which Biden was in charge of, by the way, allegedly,
what a disaster Obama's foreign policy was. And even Democrats,
some of them were like, this is just I can't
(13:14):
this is so indefensible and on so many levels it
was atrocious. But it was all to get Iran further
in meshed in the international system, give them essentially inducements
for better behavior. It did not work. Iran did not
behave better And I know people say, oh, well Trump
got us out of it. Yeah, because he saw where
this was going. He saw what the inducements got us,
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which is this, this is a corrupt and evil regime.
There's no there's no turning it around with them. Now.
This is who the Mullahs are, so to speak, It's
who the IRGC is. And And there, I think is
just the understanding that Trump has on foreign policy of
who are friends, who are enemies? How do we treat them?
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Do they know? The difference and the with Trump to
those questions is quite clear.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I think.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
I think that's one hundred percent right. You know what
I mean? You know Trump knows who the good guys are,
who the bad guys are. That sounds so simple, But
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Development HUD Secretary Scott Turner. Mister Secretary, I appreciate you
making time for us today.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Oh okay, well he will make time for us. If
not now he was there second ago. We'll bring him
back up the team that Trump has put together. Buck,
I think we have talked about this quite a bit
on the cabinet. We've had most of the cabinet on
this program at this point in time, and you and
I are.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Going to be up in DC some in June.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
I'm gonna be up there for a couple of weeks,
and I imagine we'll get the rest of the cabinet
that we haven't had on at that point in time.
But I think that there's movement on all the different fronts.
We were talking about all the international moves that Trump
is making. One thing that Trump is very focused on
is what's going on with Washington, d C.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
In particular.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
We talked about the United States Attorney He's now nominated
Judge Janine to replace Attorney Martin, who we had on
I think last week, if I remember correctly, who has
done a great job. It's getting safer, violence is declining,
people are coming back to work, and a big part
of that is just making Washington, d C. For those
(20:16):
of you who have been or are going to be
going in the near future, a place where you can
go and feel safe and feel proud of the United
States because it is not a cesspool of violence. And unfortunately,
what we saw in the last decade or so was
the DC violent crime rate ticked back up massively skyrocketed
(20:37):
during the Biden tenure. And now Trump is back in.
They're prosecuting violent criminals and they are beginning to decline
the overall amount of violence associated with our nation's capital.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
It's always worth remembering and those of you who have
traveled to other places around the world, whether there are
places there are I mean, there are countries I don't
mean there are neighborhoods. There are entire nations where crime
is not a thing that people talk about or worry about.
And so when you start from this, you know, one
of the problems I think we've had in America is
that there's this belief that just maybe seeps into your
(21:11):
mind after a while that oh, well, we just there's
a lot of crime here, and that's just the way
it has to be, because like, we can't conquer this problem,
or we can't make it much better than it is. Well,
it's a little bit like what people are saying, the
border is such a mess, we can never fix it. No,
you can, and crime actually can be dramatically lower than
(21:31):
it is as well. We know what the steps are,
we know what the tools are. It's just about having
the political will to do it and to address some
of these challenges in society in a well we got
them back. Okay, Well, my crime lecturer will wait for
another time. Here we have now the HUD Secretary of
Scott Turner, miss our Secretary Turner. Good to have you answer.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
Hey, great to be with you, guys, claim Bugs, So
thankful for you guys having me on.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Oh we appreciate you, sir. So let's dive into this.
Does how does HUD play in the realm of the
men and women's sports issue, something we talk about here
a lot on the show. I mean, I know that
there's a Biden equal access rule and h and that
affects HUD funded providers like shelter services and others. How
(22:21):
has the policy changed when it comes to HUD on
men and women's spaces in general.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
What that's a great question, and you alluded to the
equal access rule. We took that rule down. That was
a Biden era rule. We took that rule down on
day one. And what it says now is that men
and women, So if you are a biological female, you
are allowed to go into female HUD funded shelters. But
(22:51):
if you are not a biological female, you are no
longer able or allowed to enter into HUD funded facilities,
including shelters that are for females.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
This is for our females only.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
And you know, the President, I'm so grateful for him
restoring biological truth back to our country. If you are
a female at birth, if you are a male at birth,
there's only two sexes, male and female.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
That's a biological truth. That's a biblical truth.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
And so we're very proud here at HUD to protect
the ladies of our country. And when you talk about
men and women's sports, you know, guys, I have four sisters,
I have a wife, I have a mother. All of
my sisters and I have nine nieces. They were all
athletes and they spent painstak and time to prepare to
(23:39):
train to compete against other females and not to compete
against males. And so I'm grateful for the President's leadership
on this. I'm a one hundred percent supporter of men
should compete against men, women should compete against women. At HUD,
we're upholding that truth when it comes to our HUD frond,
the facilities.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Secretary, you played nine years in the NFL. What percentage
of NFL players do you think are against men being
able to compete in women's sports?
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Man?
Speaker 5 (24:12):
If I just had to guess, I would say one
hundred percent. You know, being playing in the NFL, you know,
and being in that locker room, playing against the best
athletes in the world. Just from a common sense standpoint, yep,
to have a lady compete in the NFL or contact
(24:36):
football against men that literally could take your life or
hurt you real bad.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
That just makes no sense.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
And so I would hope to say that it'll be
one hundred percent of guys, but it would.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Be a crazy percentage.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
And my argument has been the higher level athletics you
have played. I think every guy who plays high school, college,
obviously very small percentage goes on like you did to
play in the pro. But the more of an athlete
you are, the crazier I think you think.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
This is absolutely I agree.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
You know, when you go from high school to college
to the pros, the level of competition, the strength, the speed,
the attitude, you know, there's no comparison. And so I
think that guys like I said before, that in an
NFL locker room or in an NBA locker room or
Major League Baseball locker room, they are you know, we
think the same. And when you break it down just
(25:31):
to the training, the type of training that we do,
and you know, we have ladies that are in professional
sports that train vigorously, that train that.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Are so committed.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
But when it comes to game and competition, women should
compete against women and men should compete against men. You know,
I saw videos of a precious volleyball girl. I can't
remember her name. She was a female planner in a
volleyball match and there was a transgender man, I guess
on the other side, and he hates fighting.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
I think was her name. It s already cut you
off at Pa Knab.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
I think you're right that video went viral, that dude
soaring up above the net and smashing the ball in
a way that a woman couldn't.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
That's it, I mean, end the story.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
You were just with the President in the Oval Office
for the announcement of the NFL Draft coming to d
C twenty twenty seven, new stadium being built for Washington's team.
You played for the Redskins back in the day. What
is the impact of that for d C and what
does the President's commitment mean for DC you think going forward?
Speaker 5 (26:37):
So yes, I'm very excited for the Red Scans on
now the Commanders to bring the stadium back to the
site where RFK is I played in RFK I was
drafted by the Red Scans. Just the excitement of the
team coming back to the Capitol, coming back to d C.
The anticipation is great. Even inside of the press conference,
(26:58):
you could sense the energy in aipation from the owners,
from commission, a good day from the President and others
to have the stadium back. And so from a sports standpoint,
it will be tremendous. But also from an economic development
and a community development standpoint, this will make an impact
that it hasn't had in many in decades really since
(27:19):
I played for the Red Skins. I played in the
last game in RFK and in the first game in
the stadium in Maryland. And so to bring that back
from a housing standpoint, from a commercial development standpoint, retail,
from a community engagement standpoint, economically, and from a personal
the people, the families will bring new life back to
(27:40):
this area in DC.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
And so I'm very excited.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
I know the Redskins or Commander's organization is excited, and
the people in the capital are looking forward to that.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
So, as Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, what are
just some of the top initiatives that President Trump wants
you to pursue on behalf of his aministration while you're
in this role. I mean, because you know, HUD doesn't
tend to get the same headlines as a Treasury or
the State Department does, right, But what are some of
the things that you can do at HUD that would
(28:12):
be maga.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Well, you're talking about housing.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
You know, housing impacts every family, every individual in our country,
all three hundred and fifty million people in this country.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Housing makes the impact.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
Housing is not political, it's not Republican, it's not democrat.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
You know, it's not red, it's not blue.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
We need about seven million units of housing in our country.
And while being we may not be in the headlines
that it pertains to the news media, what we do
on the daily basis impacts every American and so housing
affordability is a major priority for us. Taking down burden
some regulations, freeing up local control, local flexibility across our country,
(28:54):
and providing the local mayors and economic development. You know,
every city is unique as it pertains the housing, and
so we've been working really hard and tearing down rules
such as the Affirmatively Further and Fair Housing rule, which
was a regional zoning issue here that Washington was telling
localities how they should zone their neighborhoods. So taking that
(29:16):
down and restoring that back to the localities. Also when
it pertains the disaster recovery here, you know, we've had
major hurricanes and fires in La and in North Carolina,
and so we are on the front lines of helping
families to rebuild their families, their homes, their businesses.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
And so when you think.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
About HUD, think about people that are impacting families and
impacting individuals right where they are, being in housing bidding,
disaster recovery, being eradicating and attacking homelessness in our country.
And so that's what we're about, guys. We literally meet
people where they are. The media may not cover it
in such a way as they cover other agencies, but
(29:55):
that's not what we're concerned about. To your point, where
we are concerned about is the assignment we have to
serve the American people that we've been caught to serve
and I have the best team in America to do so.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
We're talking to HUD's secretary, Scott Turner. You're in DC now,
how good is Jaden Daniels going to be?
Speaker 5 (30:15):
Jade And Daniels is a baller and I am super
proud of him.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
You know, he just goes to work. He's one of
those guys he doesn't talk about it, he just gets
it done.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
And what I'm really impressed about him one is his
character and the way that he carries himself on and
off the field, but also from a professional athlete, former
professional athlete standpoint, the game seems to be slow for him.
And that's really man, It's miraculous that even in his
rookie year, his control of the game, and how the
(30:45):
game seemed to slow down for him, even in his
decision making and his checkdowns and having to grasp you know,
of the game in the NFL so quickly, is it's
pretty miraculous.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Well, we appreciate you coming on. And boy, I can't
wait to see what that new stadium is going to
look like. And I promise you that I will be
there for the draft in twenty twenty seven. That's going
to be an incredible scene, perfect location. I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Indeed, it's gonna be epic. I'll see you there.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
For sure, all right, appreciate that. That is another one
of the Trump's cabinet members, the h The HUD director
Scott Turner. Fantastic stuff there, I want to tell you.
Speaking of fantastic stuff, Buck, are you nervous? Are you
nervous about the Knicks fifty years not being able to
get things done? Are you getting nervous about tonight's game
where the Knicks can advance to the Eastern Conference Finals.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Maybe a little bit. I don't think it's you think
the series is over. I don't think the series is over.
I think it's easy for you, mister I live in Nashville,
to just make this assumption about my New York Knicks.
My New York Knicks never miss an opportunity, to miss
an opportunity.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
That is often, sadly the case. The Knick Celtics play tonight,
the Warriors, Timberwolves in the NBA. We've also got NHL
playoffs underway. Florida Panthers, they've done pretty well defending champs,
going up against the Maple Leafs, and you got the
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place tonight, as well as my Atlanta Braves in action,
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We got a bunch of people who want to weigh
in on a variety of different talkbacks. Joe from New
York City. Ee, let's hear it.
Speaker 6 (33:33):
You want to see something funny, go to the grocery
store on Thanksgiving money. You'll see twenty guys online with
one item getting what their wife forgot to get during
the week. And we all look scared to death as
we know we got the wrong thing.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
You know what I'm talking about, those of you missed.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Buck has found out that men gets into the grocery
store and can never find what their wife actually wants.
That thing about the number of products that are all
eerily similar and the label might be just a subtle
difference in color or whatever. I remember when we used
to do for the formula, you know, when we would
(34:09):
we had the babies and my wife had stopped breastfeeding
or supplements or whatever else. I remember standing in front
of the supplement aisle for for babies the first time
that I did it, and I felt like I might
as well have been I mean, I had no idea
what I was doing, and all of them just have
a subtle little variation, a little bit different label, color,
(34:31):
a little bit different size, and even with a picture,
I'm gonna be honest, I struggled to know what I
was supposed to be getting. I think it was similar
back in the day.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
I asked you, when your wife says sends you for
fruit clay, which probably you know happens, and she says
you got the organic kind, right, is it really a
lie to just give yourself the benefit of the doubt
because it looks the same.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
I would say I would lie, and I wouldn't call
it a lie because it's possible. You did get the
organic kind.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Realize this is tie goes to the runner, in this
case the runner for the food. Well, this is like
the whole idea with apples. You know you're supposed to
wash them. Really like that that is going to solve everything.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
You know, you get like an apple, you like you
should put it underneath the underneath the the the sink
there for like, I don't know, ten seconds Like that
really is going to take care of everything. A lot
of the stuff that we do it I don't know
kind of ten second rule, isn't it. It's like, yeah,
ten seconds under the water, it's all fine, now okay.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Does that seem likely?
Speaker 3 (35:29):
I mean, if there's really bad pesticides on the apple,
is going to put it underneath the water for ten
seconds really substantially alter your health? Uh So a lot
of these things that we do, I'm not sure that
they have any benefit. I know that when my wife
has gone back when I have told her, hey, what
you sent me to find wasn't there, and she's like,
I don't buy that. At least twice that I can remember.
Once she went and she found it, which was not
(35:51):
good because she found it.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Immediately you're in the doghouse, then that's bad.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Other times she couldn't find it, and I just remember
how stunned she was when she came. She was like,
it really really wasn't there. I do think that I
could be correct. Was just boggled her mind.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
She now sometimes will text me and then tell me
what to get a grocery store and then follow it
up with a photo because she knows if there's no photo,
I'm just gonna get whatever the food, the general food
product is. She sends me to get yogurt. Clay, I
feel like Indiana Jones with the bowler rolling boulder rolling
after him, you know, like such a great scene, you know,
(36:31):
and it's like I switched the wrong yogurt where the
idol goes or something, and now I'm gonna I can
never get the right yogurt. There's so many types, to
be fair, I'm rarely shopping for anything, so I just
don't even make the attempt at this point. But that's
because I've failed so many times that I can't be trusted.
We'll try out to fail anymore with you.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
At the top of the next hour, i'm gonna go
up to New York City where this Sean Colmes trial
is going on.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Really interesting. We'll discuss next
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