January 21, 2025 • 36 mins
MAGA Movement: Business, culture and sports are all getting behind Trump. Boobs are back, but they never really left. Julie Kelly talks about the J6 pardons. Trump’s unstoppable energy.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in out Number two Clay Travis buck Sexton show.
I'm still in DC, but got up super early in
the morning to return to Miami. That is where he
is right now. We are reacting to a dynamic first
twenty four hours of the Trump presidency as he continues
to implement so many of the different promises he has
made during the course of the campaign, among them freeing
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essentially all of the January sixth prisoners from all of
their criminal related issues, treating them basically the same as
everybody who was involved in the BLM riots for much
of twenty twenty. You got a crazy story that they
are trying to I would say, manufacture out of completely
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nothing in accusing Elon Musk of making a Hitler salute.
They really can't leave the Hitler angle. Even though Trump
won record number of Jewish voters, and if Israel were
able to vote, Trump would have won on the same
kind of manner as he won Wyoming or West Virginia.
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That is, Trump is wildly popular all throughout Israel, and
Trump is instrumental in getting all of the hostages back,
including bringing some of the hostage families on stage with
him yesterday at the Capitol One Arena during his post
inauguration rally. All of that underway, But Buck, you hit
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on something that I think is really significant, and that
is the culture, the business, the sports world suddenly getting
in line behind Trump. And I was thinking about this
last night, Buck, as I watched at the inaugural ball
the Village people come out to perform YMCA and Trump
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dancing along with it at the ball. But you combine
that with all of the different musicians, all of the
different athletes, all of the different CEOs and business executives,
and we have witnessed a transformative cultural movement the likes
of which we've never seen before. In twenty seventeen, it
was we've got to isolate Trump, put on our vagina
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hats and claim that he isn't a legitimate president. And
now there's virtually no resistance, and in fact, business, culture,
and sports are lining up behind Trump the likes of
which we've never seen before.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
It's remarkable, Clay, and it's something that I think also
just goes to what a complete victory it is for
Donald Trump right now. And really the MAGA movement. I mean,
it's Trump as the leader of it, but there's been
so much that Trump supporters have had to put up with.
I mean, we're talking about the severity and the insanity
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of the treatment that the j six prisoners received, But
I just mean every day Trump supporters who have had
companies trying to push trans stuff on their kids and
have been told, you know that they better mask up.
But if they're going to come inside the business and
have been told that their business is not even welcome
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in some places, right, I mean, they've gone after firearms manufacturers,
They've been debanking people. I mean, all of this stuff,
all these underhanded, dirty tricks that Democrats have been pulling
four years. Oh, there's a shift now, there's a change
in not just the momentum, but in the power structure
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in this country. And everybody feels it. And the bad
people out there, those who have used their power for censorship,
for deplatforming, for undermining, for attacking small businesses because they
didn't like their politics, they know that the old days
of getting away with the worst of that, they're at
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least for right now on hold. So I think that's
very powerful.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
No doubt.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
And you and I let me take people into the
inaugural ball situation. I mean, it was there's thousands and
thousands of people, lots of a celebratory mood there. But
you and I ended up in an area called the
Draft Kings and FanDuel Lounge, And I want to kind
of take people into the cultural shift that I have
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witnessed in my own experience and why it was so
staggering to me last night. So they had the Ohio
State Notre Dame game on there, congratulations to Ohio State
winning the national championship. But we were standing there. There's seats, tables,
everything else. And I told you this, Buck, but I
think it's important for the audience to hear it too.
(04:43):
FanDuel we were the outmeaning OutKick the site that I ran.
We were one of their biggest affiliates, if not their
biggest affiliate. We made them This is one hundred percent true.
We made them millions of dollars on so many different days,
tens of millions of dollars in twenty twenty with sports
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gambling going legal all over the country. In fact, my
company personally, just to kind of give you an idea,
OutKick on Super Bowl twenty twenty one, we made two
million dollars. FanDuel stroked us a check just on that
day for two million dollars. We made them tens of
millions of dollars. Here's what happened. They were really upset
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because they had a woke marketing department.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I sold out Kick to Fox.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
FanDuel and DraftKings both said Klay Travis is too much
of a Trump supporter. In the wake of jan six,
twenty twenty one, and the wake of me endorsing him
and the comments that I was making publicly, they said,
we can't work with him anymore. FanDuel and DraftKings sports
gambling companies. This is one reason, by the way, we're
partner with price Picks. To their credit, FanDuel and DraftKings said, also,
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Clay's two outspoken when he says that men pretending to
be women shouldn't be playing in women's sports. We think
that's offensive. We're worried about our brand being connected with him.
Just telling you all what happened behind the scenes. Suddenly
Trump wins the twenty twenty four election popular vote. Buck,
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they show up and have a sponsorship that is going
on inside of the Trump inauguration. They've got their own area.
FanDuel and DraftKings are trying to be like, Hey, we're
big Trump people now, and to me, this culture a
lot of it. I want you guys to remember who
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actually had your back and don't allow these companies to
suddenly come running in. I'll give you another example, Buck,
This happened last night. I couldn't believe it happened. During
the Ohio State Notre Dame game. Suddenly ESPN, which has
been wildly anti Trump for years, decided they were going
to share a message. We've got some of the audio
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for you of Trump addressing everybody watching that game last night.
I almost fell out of my chair, Buck, when I
saw that this happened. Play that cut.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Starting now, We're going to bring America back and make
it safer, richer, and prouder than ever before. We will
have a nation filled with compassion, strength, and exceptionalism. To
our power and might, we will stop wars and we
will lead the world to peace. We will be respected again,
and we will be admired again, admired like we haven't
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been in many, many years. We'll put America first, and
by doing so, we're going to make America great again.
In less than three months ince the election, you have
already seen it happen and you can feel the excitement,
and you can see the confidence and spirit returning to
our nation. Together, we're going to lead our country to
glorious new heights. The Golden Age of America has just begun.
(07:58):
To all of the players and fans watching tonight, I
know it's been a long and difficult journey. It's been
a long season. But you have two tremendous teams, and
get to the game and go out and fight hard
and fight fear and let the better team win.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Okay, Buck For anybody who's seeing the ESPN or FanDuel
or DraftKings, I'm talking about the culture of sports changing
overnight with Trump. It's extraordinary. I honestly can't believe some
of what I'm seeing, the degree to which they're just
all now like, hey we love Trump, Hey go Trump.
I mean, it's remarkable.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I think that there are a lot of people on
the corporate and cultural side of things who maybe they
didn't personally go along with this in terms of their beliefs,
they didn't really want to. Now, I can't give you
what the percentages are here, but I'm just saying I
think there are some who were worried about crossing the Democrats, yes,
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and so it was more out of fear. By the way,
I know that this existed some some companies, and Clin
and I have talked about some of the companies where
we know people running them where this has been the case.
There have been there have been times where companies.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
And uh and you know.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Media outlets whatever it may be, have made decisions because
they were afraid of crossing Democrats. And I think that
now what they see is they don't have to be
afraid anymore. They're they're not having to look over their
shoulder for Oh, I'm going to get some audit from
Biden's I R S because I have you know, somebody
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in my company is pro Trump, where you know, this
is a shift that has effects that are downstream of
the election and will affect I think the next election,
because this is this goes beyond just one political cycle.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
This is a change in the.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Cultural and and and commerce feeling of the country right now,
which is is a remarkable learn about when you think
about how we went from in twenty twenty the Amazon
shutting off, parlor Trump kicked off of social media company,
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you know, all the social media companies saying basically you can't.
You can't question the election results. You can't say that
the vaccines don't stop the spread, which they didn't. By
the way, you can't say these things. And now we're
at a place where, hold on a second, free speech
may have come back, free enterprise may be respected as
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something that does not have to be run by the
woke mob. First, I mean, this is all enormously important
and a massive change. And then, by the way, you
know what you're talking about, Clay, is not only can
people lose some of the fear of being targeted by democrats.
I think now there are democrats who are saying a
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lot of them, a lot of them in the corporate world,
who were saying, I don't know Trump's maybe he's pretty
cool run guy, Maybe I don't want to be on
the wrong side of the Trumpster.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Well, I think what it also represents is we saw
buck here, face to face what the actual resistance looks like.
And I think a lot of these CEOs now are
looking around and they're like, am I gonna let some.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Purple haired.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Crazy person who has no real job beating on a
drum walking around in a vagina hat dictate the direction
that my corporate policy goes to and remember all we've
ever argued is, hey.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Try to appeal to everybody.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Right, if you're a car company, I don't want only
to sell the Democrats. I don't only want to sell
to Republicans. If you're a restaurant or an airline, you
want to address the biggest possible market. And when I
saw a FanDuel of DraftKings last night we walked in,
I told you I I just couldn't believe it that
they could go from Clay Travis can't talk about the
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fact that there's only two genders and that men shouldn't
be able to compet and women's sports because for branding purposes,
that makes him toxic, even though what is it, ninety
ten sports fans agree with me, and then they suddenly going, hey,
we're proud to be a presenting sponsor of the Donald
Trump inauguration. You know what Trump said when he came
out on the stage at the Ball Liberty Ball last night, Hey,
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there's only two genders.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
We got to get men out of women's sports.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
So it's just like he's saying the same thing that
I said for years and that many of you rationally
have been saying, and these corporations now are going to
try to pretend they've always been in line with your
values all along. And look, I think it's better the
direction we're going, but it's head spinning for me to
see how people like you and me were treated for
what we said about COVID, or what we said about
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men and women's sports, or what we said about voting
for Donald Trump. To now all of a sudden, Amazon
who tried to shut down the ability of Parlor to
even exist because they were upset about them being too
Trump supporting, to suddenly Jeff Bezos sitting at the inauguration,
to Mark Zuckerberg, who took away Trump's account, sitting front
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row at the inauguration.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
It's crazy Bezos's wife as zucker Bello.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Hello, Hello, Hello, boobs are back, Buck. That's why a
lot of people I saw at the at the at
the ball last night. First of all, a lot of
boobs at the ball, so I don't think Boob's ever left,
but a lot of dudes coming up saying, hey, Clay,
still love your I got a lot of fist pounds
at the at the event last night. So Lawn Sanchia
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bet Jeff Bezos would give me a fifth pound. Now
he wanted to kick me off the internet. Now he's
got a little bit testosterone.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
He likes boobs. Again. We come back, We will. We'll
have a little bit of fun with you.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
We got Julie Kelly, who I think deserves a massive
amount of attention for all the work that she did,
joining us at the bottom of the hour to talk
about the January sixth pardons and what the impact is there.
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Speaker 3 (15:43):
Welcome back into Clay and Bach.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Some meturing news on the personnel front of the Trump team,
the Trump world, the theik Ramaswami is stepping away from
Doze after having been involved in the early days of Doze.
There are a whole bunch of news reports out there
about why this may have occurred or what went on here.
(16:08):
But Vivek looks like he's going to be running for
governor of Ohio. But I will just note that it
did not his tenure at DOZE did not last into
the actual administration. It seems it was more in the
pre administration and in the creation phase.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
I think one of the challenges they're going to have,
frankly with anybody who was involved in business, and I'll
say this about Elon Musk too, I think that they're
going to get super frustrated with how slow business moves,
I'm sorry, how slow government moves compared to business that
they control, and look, Elon can address and see issues
that occur at Tesla or SpaceX or XAI or Twitter
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or whatever it is, and he can fix them. And
I think one of the things that if you're an executive,
really drives people crazy is they look at everything that's
going wrong in government and they say, Okay, we've got
to do X and Y, and then X and Y
have big special interest groups and they have unions and
they have protectorates, and it's just way harder to get
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the government moving. The analogy people like to use buck
in sports sometimes, as they say, sometimes you're captaining a speedboat.
Like if you're a coach of a basketball team, it's
like a speedboat. You can change directions quickly. There aren't
that many people involved. When you got the football team.
You can't move that football team one hundred people, all
the apparatus, all the pads, everything else very easily. You
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can't just hop in a van and take off. I
think they want to move fast and disrupt things, and
the Elon Musks of the world are going to be
frustrated by how hard it is to move fast and
disrupt things in government. So that's just a prediction going
forward that there's going to become some frustration and friction,
not because of the goals, but just because they aren't
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Speaker 2 (18:56):
Back in to play, and Buck just going to be
Buck for the rest of the show here in Florida.
Clay flying back to Tennessee. We got Julie Kelly with
us now to talk about the J six releases, commutations, pardons,
all of it. She is the author of a declassified
on Substack. Go subscribe. Julie, I hear you a little
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under the weather. Thanks for powering through for us here.
We just felt like, given what's going on with these
pardons and commutations, the releases, you're the person we wanted
to talk to just first off, what have you been
hearing from the families and bring us into what it's
like as they're finding out in real time that Trump
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has given them their lives back.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
Well, Buck and I, regardless of how I feel in
number six so of course today would be the first
day in like you know, thirty years. But anyway, I
want to thank you, and I want to thank Clay
because you guys are instrumental in getting this message out.
The travesty of the J sixers, their plate, the abusive
prosecution of them and carsery. So this has been really
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a team effort, and I wanted to think, I want
to thank both of you. Also, how did you guys
get such hot wives? I saw photos from the ball.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
You know we do it weekend. I appreciate that.
Speaker 6 (20:14):
So anyway, I wanted to thank both of you. And
it was just a historic day. I mean, this full
pardon that the President issued last night, getting my phone
blowing up with texts that people were already being released,
mothers who were crying that their sons are coming home.
So I just really have to commend and thank President
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Trump because but this was not an easy decision to
make at all. This got a lot of pushback from
Republicans in Congress. You had US senators during Pambondi's confirmation
hearing Linday Graham and Tom Tillis coming flat out today
they opposed pardons for those who allegedly beat up cops,
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and Tom Tillis even today saying denouncing these pardons and
saying he wants new federal laws for killing police officers.
No police officer was killed on January sixth, So this
is the sort of a political opposition that the President
had to deal with. But nonetheless, I know he was
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personally committed to this, and he took a very bold,
courageous move yesterday. I think that there will be more
to come on this because he really wants all of
these people and their families made whole. After the Biden,
Marrick Garland, DOJ did everything they could to try to
destroy them.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
And so last night were there people I mean I
was seeing some video on social media at the ball,
so there was a lot of things going on and
people were being released as of midnight. Is that how
how did it actually go down?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Correct?
Speaker 6 (21:52):
So some of them started getting released last night. And
you know, keep in mind, as you probably know books Buck,
but your listeners, these people are in the hardest federal
prisons across the country Texas, Philadelphia, in New York City.
This is where we put really dangerous repeat criminals, not
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someone who scuffle with the police officer during a political protest.
So yet some of u are being released, you know,
in the wee hours of the morning, and the families
were kind of scrambling to figure out how to go
get them, because of course there are hundreds, maybe thousands
of miles away. We do see today and I'm sure
you've seen this two book. The DC Gulag, of course,
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waiting till the very last minute, delaying as long as
they possibly can defendants, including women, who are in that
hellhole waiting to get released. And I think some members
of Congress have already gone there to try to figure
out what's going on. But that is really the gulag,
the center of the torment of these J sixers. But nonetheless,
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they will be free, they will be home, and I
think more to come to make them whole and hopefully
also hold accountable the monsters in the DJ and FBI
and federal courthouse who did this to these people.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Is there anyone who is supposed to be out among
J six prisoners who is not out? That was another
thing that I was seeing, but I wasn't sure. And
I know that you're following all this very closely. It
would seem to me the President says you're out, You're
out right. I mean, there's there shouldn't be any there
should be no question, there's no there's no This is
(23:34):
a streat, chain of command, presidential pardon issue, or commutation issue.
So is anyone still waiting to be released? Or is
everybody out who's supposed to be out.
Speaker 6 (23:44):
My understanding is there are still some who are being
released who are waiting to be released, especially at the
DC Gulag. Now, the DC Gulag is sort of the
holding pen for defendants who are going on trial, so
they are transferred there from other federal prisons, they've been
detained under pre trial detention, or they're in prison they've
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been convicted and taken into custody. That's kind of the
holding pen where they all stay before they have to
go to the courthouse a few blocks away for whatever proceeding.
So there's a mix of defendants in there that could
be the hold up because some are there who are convicted,
some are there who are on trial and have not
been convicted, some are there waiting to be sentenced. So
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if they're blaming it on paperwork, doesn't matter. These people
should immediately have been released last night, deal with the
paperwork later. So if this continues throughout the day, and
I know there are actually people Jay Sixers who were
released from prison last night, say in Philadelphia, who went
right to the DC Gulags, and they're they're already helping
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in any way that they can to get these JA
sixers out of gulags, So there might be some more
drama there this afternoon. We'll keep an eye on it.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
And I also just think truly because it's easy for people,
you know, so much going on to forget about some
of what went on here. And yes, this is a
this is a happy moment, and it's an incredible move
by President Trump, and I you know, first and foremost,
this is just such a relief and such an incredible
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decision by the new president to do this. But I
think it's important to also have that perspective of people
were held in What was the longest that you remember
somebody being held in solitary confinement as a JAY six
prisoner before trial?
Speaker 3 (25:35):
What was it? Was it over a year? Was it
fourteen months? I mean?
Speaker 2 (25:38):
And what was some of the treatment that some of
the non violent J six ers were receiving in that
DC gulag.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
So the members of the Proud Boys who went to
trial in December of twenty twenty two, many of them
had been in custody since January or February of twenty
twenty one, so almost two years before they went to trial.
And these are non violent charges obstruction of an official
preceding the ridiculous seditious conspiracy statute, which is reserved for
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real terrorists, not people organizing to go to a political protest.
So those were the most abused, I believe, But there
were others who were imprisoned for a year fifteen eighteen
months before going to trial and the real outrage there
buck two yes, and held in solitary confinement because of
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alleged COVID rules, especially at the Gulag, where people were
transferred from all over the country to go to the
DC Gulag just to torment them. There weren't court proceedings
in person, corp proceedings going on in Washington in twenty
twenty one. They transferred them there, sometimes four or five
different stops along the way at other federal prisons, finally
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making it to the DC Gulag, where they had a
special section of the DC prison system set aside for
Trump supporters. I mean, this is the sort of thing
you read about in Banana republics, not in the United States.
And yes, held in solitary designment, denied access to their family,
denied access to their attorneys. So we are going to
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start hearing the horror stories now that these people have
been released about what has happened to them during the proceedings,
and of course while they were in custody in these violent,
dangerous Federal of prisons.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Were you hearing directly really from some of the families
as they were finding out that this was real?
Speaker 6 (27:37):
Yes, yes, And that's the first time I started hearing
we're from defendants and from family members. Oh my god,
you know so and so is coming home. I can't
believe this is and I kind of didn't believe it either.
I thought, Okay, the pardon, then there will be a
process for getting people out of jail. And it was
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happening instantaneously. I believe that the President and I think
his acting DOJ officials, as soon as they took office,
started notifying the Bureau of Prisons in US Marshalls that
this is going to happen and to prepare to release
these defendants. So it was already sort of in motion
before the President signed that part an order. Last night,
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it I think it was seven o'clock Eastern time.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Speaking of Julie Kelly, Declassified is her substack which you
can all subscribe to. She did so much great work
by looking into publicizing advocating for J six prisoners with
her substack and by coming on shows like this one
and now, Julie, what I want to know from you
is what do you want on this issue? And we
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can expand this a bit more broadly into just also
cleaning up the DOJ and making sure that we don't
see more of what we saw here with J six
prisoners and a whole bunch of other things as well,
with the weaponization of the Justice Department. What do you
want to see going forward? What does justice look like
to you? And what does cleaning up DJ look like
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to you?
Speaker 6 (29:10):
Well, I will tell you, Buck, I did talk to
the President last week for a lengthy amount of time
about this issue. So obviously he was very adamant about
pardons and also, as we saw with the other executive
order yesterday, cleaning up the Department of Justice, not just
of course what they did to him, but what they
did to Peter Navarro and to Steve Bannon and trying
(29:33):
to destroy Jeff Clark and John Eastman, his attorneys, and
then of course the J sixer. So I think he's
also very committed to exposing everything that went down in
his prosecution. The other prosecutions the J six one as well,
how the FBI was involved, what they did these armed
(29:53):
pre dawn, armed raids for non violent offenders, terrorizing families
and their entire communities. So he you know, this is
just the start. Let's put it that way. This is
just the start of accountability and transparency and all of
the things that I think resulted in President Trump's when
(30:16):
repelling the law fair dangerous, law fair, and a dj
that has no that the American people has no trust in.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Julie.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
One more for you before we let you get back to, uh,
you know, relaxing and resting and getting ready for the yeah,
the the last minute, given how how you've had to
fight through all of this, this uh insanity from the
Democrat DOJ under Biden pushing for the most extreme prosecutions
(30:49):
possible of of J six defendants and all the rest.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
What was it like to see, just as he's.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Scurrying away from the spotlight, Biden pardon his immediate family members,
along with Fauci and J six committee people, et cetera,
but particularly the Biden crime family.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
What was that like for you?
Speaker 6 (31:10):
I mean, we were all waiting for that to happen, right,
We knew it was coming, but here it was, you know,
eleven forty five or so Eastern time. He was going
to wait till the very last minute, which he did
to pardon all of his family members, giveing credence to
what we all know is that that is the Biden
crime family, crime racket. And I think we will learn
(31:31):
more about that, all of the business deals that the
Biden family initiated and were engaged in with some of
our foreign adversaries, and then funneling that to Joe Biden
despite all of his protestations to the contrary. But I
will say too, buck back to J six, that also justifies,
I think really adds fuel to the fire that the
(31:53):
J six committee was also a criminal operation, and we
know that they were engaged in criminal conduct, destroying evidence,
supporting perjury, obstructing investigations, so we know that that's the case,
and then pardoning before I call J six celebrity cops
Aquallina Ganell, Mike Finone, Daniel Hodges, and Harry Dunn who
(32:18):
committed perjury not just during that July twenty one televised
performance where they were all crying and lying about their injuries,
but also lying under oath as witnesses and victims in
J six court proceedings begging judges to throw the book
at JAY sixers based on injuries and trauma that they
never sustained. So that I think is a real travesty too, Julie.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Kelly, everybody, Julie, I know, the families and the JA
six defendants themselves appreciate your work, as does this audience,
and it must feel good to see.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
How it all came together.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Finally at the end, thank you so much, Thank you.
Speaker 6 (32:55):
Buck, thanks for all your help and covering my work.
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I've been meaning to get to calls today eight hund
two to two eight eight two and also the next hour.
I think we should talk a bit about how Trump
is going to be cleaning up some things in the government,
and they've already started a expulsion of leave behinds and
(34:32):
political remnants. Trump does not want the petty commissars of
Bidenism to be able to stay behind enemy lines, so
to speak, and try to gum up the works like
they did in the first Trump administration. That was something
that I was very aware of. I had friends in
the various Intel agencies, for example, who told me that
(34:55):
people had even switched from being a point political appointees
being career civil servant at least that's their designation. I
think they call it burrowing in bureaucratase. And the whole
idea is that then they cannot be fired, not at
least the same way that a or fired in replace
(35:17):
the same way that a political appointee can be. So
they're already they're wise to this. You know, they learned
a lot of lessons from the first administration of Trump
in terms of how the machinery works, in terms of
how the other side plays and fights dirty, and so
it's going to be a whole different ballgame this time.
(35:40):
And I think it's really encouraging to see that. Encouraging
to see how they've come out of the gates with
this just absolute salvo of policy, executive orders and staying
on tasks, staying focused right away. And I will also
tell you Trump was an incredible dynamo yesterday. I was exhausted,
(36:03):
Clay stayed out till like almost three o'clock in the morning.
Carry and I, she's pregnant, and you know, we went
home by about ten. Trump went from ball to inaugural
ball to inaugural ball. He was signing executive orders for hours.
He was at the inauguration. Of course, I don't know
how he does it. It's truly amazing. He's about my
(36:25):
dad's age, and this guy just is It's like he
never needs a nap. I don't know. And it's such
a difference. I mean, I think I need a nap
right now. Not right now, but at some point today.
It's such a difference from Biden sleepy Joe. We've gone
from sleepy Joe to Trump the Dynamo, and it's gonna
(36:46):
be great for America.
Welcome in out Number two Clay Travis buck Sexton show.
I'm still in DC, but got up super early in
the morning to return to Miami. That is where he
is right now. We are reacting to a dynamic first
twenty four hours of the Trump presidency as he continues
to implement so many of the different promises he has
made during the course of the campaign, among them freeing
(00:24):
essentially all of the January sixth prisoners from all of
their criminal related issues, treating them basically the same as
everybody who was involved in the BLM riots for much
of twenty twenty. You got a crazy story that they
are trying to I would say, manufacture out of completely
(00:48):
nothing in accusing Elon Musk of making a Hitler salute.
They really can't leave the Hitler angle. Even though Trump
won record number of Jewish voters, and if Israel were
able to vote, Trump would have won on the same
kind of manner as he won Wyoming or West Virginia.
(01:11):
That is, Trump is wildly popular all throughout Israel, and
Trump is instrumental in getting all of the hostages back,
including bringing some of the hostage families on stage with
him yesterday at the Capitol One Arena during his post
inauguration rally. All of that underway, But Buck, you hit
(01:31):
on something that I think is really significant, and that
is the culture, the business, the sports world suddenly getting
in line behind Trump. And I was thinking about this
last night, Buck, as I watched at the inaugural ball
the Village people come out to perform YMCA and Trump
(01:55):
dancing along with it at the ball. But you combine
that with all of the different musicians, all of the
different athletes, all of the different CEOs and business executives,
and we have witnessed a transformative cultural movement the likes
of which we've never seen before. In twenty seventeen, it
was we've got to isolate Trump, put on our vagina
(02:16):
hats and claim that he isn't a legitimate president. And
now there's virtually no resistance, and in fact, business, culture,
and sports are lining up behind Trump the likes of
which we've never seen before.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
It's remarkable, Clay, and it's something that I think also
just goes to what a complete victory it is for
Donald Trump right now. And really the MAGA movement. I mean,
it's Trump as the leader of it, but there's been
so much that Trump supporters have had to put up with.
I mean, we're talking about the severity and the insanity
(02:51):
of the treatment that the j six prisoners received, But
I just mean every day Trump supporters who have had
companies trying to push trans stuff on their kids and
have been told, you know that they better mask up.
But if they're going to come inside the business and
have been told that their business is not even welcome
(03:13):
in some places, right, I mean, they've gone after firearms manufacturers,
They've been debanking people. I mean, all of this stuff,
all these underhanded, dirty tricks that Democrats have been pulling
four years. Oh, there's a shift now, there's a change
in not just the momentum, but in the power structure
(03:34):
in this country. And everybody feels it. And the bad
people out there, those who have used their power for censorship,
for deplatforming, for undermining, for attacking small businesses because they
didn't like their politics, they know that the old days
of getting away with the worst of that, they're at
(03:55):
least for right now on hold. So I think that's
very powerful.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
No doubt.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
And you and I let me take people into the
inaugural ball situation. I mean, it was there's thousands and
thousands of people, lots of a celebratory mood there. But
you and I ended up in an area called the
Draft Kings and FanDuel Lounge, And I want to kind
of take people into the cultural shift that I have
(04:21):
witnessed in my own experience and why it was so
staggering to me last night. So they had the Ohio
State Notre Dame game on there, congratulations to Ohio State
winning the national championship. But we were standing there. There's seats, tables,
everything else. And I told you this, Buck, but I
think it's important for the audience to hear it too.
(04:43):
FanDuel we were the outmeaning OutKick the site that I ran.
We were one of their biggest affiliates, if not their
biggest affiliate. We made them This is one hundred percent true.
We made them millions of dollars on so many different days,
tens of millions of dollars in twenty twenty with sports
(05:04):
gambling going legal all over the country. In fact, my
company personally, just to kind of give you an idea,
OutKick on Super Bowl twenty twenty one, we made two
million dollars. FanDuel stroked us a check just on that
day for two million dollars. We made them tens of
millions of dollars. Here's what happened. They were really upset
(05:27):
because they had a woke marketing department.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I sold out Kick to Fox.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
FanDuel and DraftKings both said Klay Travis is too much
of a Trump supporter. In the wake of jan six,
twenty twenty one, and the wake of me endorsing him
and the comments that I was making publicly, they said,
we can't work with him anymore. FanDuel and DraftKings sports
gambling companies. This is one reason, by the way, we're
partner with price Picks. To their credit, FanDuel and DraftKings said, also,
(05:56):
Clay's two outspoken when he says that men pretending to
be women shouldn't be playing in women's sports. We think
that's offensive. We're worried about our brand being connected with him.
Just telling you all what happened behind the scenes. Suddenly
Trump wins the twenty twenty four election popular vote. Buck,
(06:18):
they show up and have a sponsorship that is going
on inside of the Trump inauguration. They've got their own area.
FanDuel and DraftKings are trying to be like, Hey, we're
big Trump people now, and to me, this culture a
lot of it. I want you guys to remember who
(06:39):
actually had your back and don't allow these companies to
suddenly come running in. I'll give you another example, Buck,
This happened last night. I couldn't believe it happened. During
the Ohio State Notre Dame game. Suddenly ESPN, which has
been wildly anti Trump for years, decided they were going
to share a message. We've got some of the audio
(07:01):
for you of Trump addressing everybody watching that game last night.
I almost fell out of my chair, Buck, when I
saw that this happened. Play that cut.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
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(07:34):
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(07:58):
To all of the players and fans watching tonight, I
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and fight fear and let the better team win.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Okay, Buck For anybody who's seeing the ESPN or FanDuel
or DraftKings, I'm talking about the culture of sports changing
overnight with Trump. It's extraordinary. I honestly can't believe some
of what I'm seeing, the degree to which they're just
all now like, hey we love Trump, Hey go Trump.
I mean, it's remarkable.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I think that there are a lot of people on
the corporate and cultural side of things who maybe they
didn't personally go along with this in terms of their beliefs,
they didn't really want to. Now, I can't give you
what the percentages are here, but I'm just saying I
think there are some who were worried about crossing the Democrats, yes,
(08:57):
and so it was more out of fear. By the way,
I know that this existed some some companies, and Clin
and I have talked about some of the companies where
we know people running them where this has been the case.
There have been there have been times where companies.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
And uh and you know.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Media outlets whatever it may be, have made decisions because
they were afraid of crossing Democrats. And I think that
now what they see is they don't have to be
afraid anymore. They're they're not having to look over their
shoulder for Oh, I'm going to get some audit from
Biden's I R S because I have you know, somebody
(09:35):
in my company is pro Trump, where you know, this
is a shift that has effects that are downstream of
the election and will affect I think the next election,
because this is this goes beyond just one political cycle.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
This is a change in the.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Cultural and and and commerce feeling of the country right now,
which is is a remarkable learn about when you think
about how we went from in twenty twenty the Amazon
shutting off, parlor Trump kicked off of social media company,
(10:12):
you know, all the social media companies saying basically you can't.
You can't question the election results. You can't say that
the vaccines don't stop the spread, which they didn't. By
the way, you can't say these things. And now we're
at a place where, hold on a second, free speech
may have come back, free enterprise may be respected as
(10:33):
something that does not have to be run by the
woke mob. First, I mean, this is all enormously important
and a massive change. And then, by the way, you
know what you're talking about, Clay, is not only can
people lose some of the fear of being targeted by democrats.
I think now there are democrats who are saying a
(10:54):
lot of them, a lot of them in the corporate world,
who were saying, I don't know Trump's maybe he's pretty
cool run guy, Maybe I don't want to be on
the wrong side of the Trumpster.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Well, I think what it also represents is we saw
buck here, face to face what the actual resistance looks like.
And I think a lot of these CEOs now are
looking around and they're like, am I gonna let some.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Purple haired.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Crazy person who has no real job beating on a
drum walking around in a vagina hat dictate the direction
that my corporate policy goes to and remember all we've
ever argued is, hey.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Try to appeal to everybody.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Right, if you're a car company, I don't want only
to sell the Democrats. I don't only want to sell
to Republicans. If you're a restaurant or an airline, you
want to address the biggest possible market. And when I
saw a FanDuel of DraftKings last night we walked in,
I told you I I just couldn't believe it that
they could go from Clay Travis can't talk about the
(11:56):
fact that there's only two genders and that men shouldn't
be able to compet and women's sports because for branding purposes,
that makes him toxic, even though what is it, ninety
ten sports fans agree with me, and then they suddenly going, hey,
we're proud to be a presenting sponsor of the Donald
Trump inauguration. You know what Trump said when he came
out on the stage at the Ball Liberty Ball last night, Hey,
(12:18):
there's only two genders.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
We got to get men out of women's sports.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
So it's just like he's saying the same thing that
I said for years and that many of you rationally
have been saying, and these corporations now are going to
try to pretend they've always been in line with your
values all along. And look, I think it's better the
direction we're going, but it's head spinning for me to
see how people like you and me were treated for
what we said about COVID, or what we said about
(12:43):
men and women's sports, or what we said about voting
for Donald Trump. To now all of a sudden, Amazon
who tried to shut down the ability of Parlor to
even exist because they were upset about them being too
Trump supporting, to suddenly Jeff Bezos sitting at the inauguration,
to Mark Zuckerberg, who took away Trump's account, sitting front
(13:04):
row at the inauguration.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
It's crazy Bezos's wife as zucker Bello.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Hello, Hello, Hello, boobs are back, Buck. That's why a
lot of people I saw at the at the at
the ball last night. First of all, a lot of
boobs at the ball, so I don't think Boob's ever left,
but a lot of dudes coming up saying, hey, Clay,
still love your I got a lot of fist pounds
at the at the event last night. So Lawn Sanchia
(13:32):
bet Jeff Bezos would give me a fifth pound. Now
he wanted to kick me off the internet. Now he's
got a little bit testosterone.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
He likes boobs. Again. We come back, We will. We'll
have a little bit of fun with you.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
We got Julie Kelly, who I think deserves a massive
amount of attention for all the work that she did,
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Speaker 3 (15:43):
Welcome back into Clay and Bach.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Some meturing news on the personnel front of the Trump team,
the Trump world, the theik Ramaswami is stepping away from
Doze after having been involved in the early days of Doze.
There are a whole bunch of news reports out there
about why this may have occurred or what went on here.
(16:08):
But Vivek looks like he's going to be running for
governor of Ohio. But I will just note that it
did not his tenure at DOZE did not last into
the actual administration. It seems it was more in the
pre administration and in the creation phase.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
I think one of the challenges they're going to have,
frankly with anybody who was involved in business, and I'll
say this about Elon Musk too, I think that they're
going to get super frustrated with how slow business moves,
I'm sorry, how slow government moves compared to business that
they control, and look, Elon can address and see issues
that occur at Tesla or SpaceX or XAI or Twitter
(16:51):
or whatever it is, and he can fix them. And
I think one of the things that if you're an executive,
really drives people crazy is they look at everything that's
going wrong in government and they say, Okay, we've got
to do X and Y, and then X and Y
have big special interest groups and they have unions and
they have protectorates, and it's just way harder to get
(17:11):
the government moving. The analogy people like to use buck
in sports sometimes, as they say, sometimes you're captaining a speedboat.
Like if you're a coach of a basketball team, it's
like a speedboat. You can change directions quickly. There aren't
that many people involved. When you got the football team.
You can't move that football team one hundred people, all
the apparatus, all the pads, everything else very easily. You
(17:33):
can't just hop in a van and take off. I
think they want to move fast and disrupt things, and
the Elon Musks of the world are going to be
frustrated by how hard it is to move fast and
disrupt things in government. So that's just a prediction going
forward that there's going to become some frustration and friction,
not because of the goals, but just because they aren't
(17:54):
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Back in to play, and Buck just going to be
Buck for the rest of the show here in Florida.
Clay flying back to Tennessee. We got Julie Kelly with
us now to talk about the J six releases, commutations, pardons,
all of it. She is the author of a declassified
on Substack. Go subscribe. Julie, I hear you a little
(19:16):
under the weather. Thanks for powering through for us here.
We just felt like, given what's going on with these
pardons and commutations, the releases, you're the person we wanted
to talk to just first off, what have you been
hearing from the families and bring us into what it's
like as they're finding out in real time that Trump
(19:37):
has given them their lives back.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
Well, Buck and I, regardless of how I feel in
number six so of course today would be the first
day in like you know, thirty years. But anyway, I
want to thank you, and I want to thank Clay
because you guys are instrumental in getting this message out.
The travesty of the J sixers, their plate, the abusive
prosecution of them and carsery. So this has been really
(20:01):
a team effort, and I wanted to think, I want
to thank both of you. Also, how did you guys
get such hot wives? I saw photos from the ball.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
You know we do it weekend. I appreciate that.
Speaker 6 (20:14):
So anyway, I wanted to thank both of you. And
it was just a historic day. I mean, this full
pardon that the President issued last night, getting my phone
blowing up with texts that people were already being released,
mothers who were crying that their sons are coming home.
So I just really have to commend and thank President
(20:37):
Trump because but this was not an easy decision to
make at all. This got a lot of pushback from
Republicans in Congress. You had US senators during Pambondi's confirmation
hearing Linday Graham and Tom Tillis coming flat out today
they opposed pardons for those who allegedly beat up cops,
(20:57):
and Tom Tillis even today saying denouncing these pardons and
saying he wants new federal laws for killing police officers.
No police officer was killed on January sixth, So this
is the sort of a political opposition that the President
had to deal with. But nonetheless, I know he was
(21:17):
personally committed to this, and he took a very bold,
courageous move yesterday. I think that there will be more
to come on this because he really wants all of
these people and their families made whole. After the Biden,
Marrick Garland, DOJ did everything they could to try to
destroy them.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
And so last night were there people I mean I
was seeing some video on social media at the ball,
so there was a lot of things going on and
people were being released as of midnight. Is that how
how did it actually go down?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Correct?
Speaker 6 (21:52):
So some of them started getting released last night. And
you know, keep in mind, as you probably know books Buck,
but your listeners, these people are in the hardest federal
prisons across the country Texas, Philadelphia, in New York City.
This is where we put really dangerous repeat criminals, not
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someone who scuffle with the police officer during a political protest.
So yet some of u are being released, you know,
in the wee hours of the morning, and the families
were kind of scrambling to figure out how to go
get them, because of course there are hundreds, maybe thousands
of miles away. We do see today and I'm sure
you've seen this two book. The DC Gulag, of course,
(22:34):
waiting till the very last minute, delaying as long as
they possibly can defendants, including women, who are in that
hellhole waiting to get released. And I think some members
of Congress have already gone there to try to figure
out what's going on. But that is really the gulag,
the center of the torment of these J sixers. But nonetheless,
(22:57):
they will be free, they will be home, and I
think more to come to make them whole and hopefully
also hold accountable the monsters in the DJ and FBI
and federal courthouse who did this to these people.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Is there anyone who is supposed to be out among
J six prisoners who is not out? That was another
thing that I was seeing, but I wasn't sure. And
I know that you're following all this very closely. It
would seem to me the President says you're out, You're
out right. I mean, there's there shouldn't be any there
should be no question, there's no there's no This is
(23:34):
a streat, chain of command, presidential pardon issue, or commutation issue.
So is anyone still waiting to be released? Or is
everybody out who's supposed to be out.
Speaker 6 (23:44):
My understanding is there are still some who are being
released who are waiting to be released, especially at the
DC Gulag. Now, the DC Gulag is sort of the
holding pen for defendants who are going on trial, so
they are transferred there from other federal prisons, they've been
detained under pre trial detention, or they're in prison they've
(24:06):
been convicted and taken into custody. That's kind of the
holding pen where they all stay before they have to
go to the courthouse a few blocks away for whatever proceeding.
So there's a mix of defendants in there that could
be the hold up because some are there who are convicted,
some are there who are on trial and have not
been convicted, some are there waiting to be sentenced. So
(24:28):
if they're blaming it on paperwork, doesn't matter. These people
should immediately have been released last night, deal with the
paperwork later. So if this continues throughout the day, and
I know there are actually people Jay Sixers who were
released from prison last night, say in Philadelphia, who went
right to the DC Gulags, and they're they're already helping
(24:49):
in any way that they can to get these JA
sixers out of gulags, So there might be some more
drama there this afternoon. We'll keep an eye on it.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
And I also just think truly because it's easy for people,
you know, so much going on to forget about some
of what went on here. And yes, this is a
this is a happy moment, and it's an incredible move
by President Trump, and I you know, first and foremost,
this is just such a relief and such an incredible
(25:20):
decision by the new president to do this. But I
think it's important to also have that perspective of people
were held in What was the longest that you remember
somebody being held in solitary confinement as a JAY six
prisoner before trial?
Speaker 3 (25:35):
What was it? Was it over a year? Was it
fourteen months? I mean?
Speaker 2 (25:38):
And what was some of the treatment that some of
the non violent J six ers were receiving in that
DC gulag.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
So the members of the Proud Boys who went to
trial in December of twenty twenty two, many of them
had been in custody since January or February of twenty
twenty one, so almost two years before they went to trial.
And these are non violent charges obstruction of an official
preceding the ridiculous seditious conspiracy statute, which is reserved for
(26:10):
real terrorists, not people organizing to go to a political protest.
So those were the most abused, I believe, But there
were others who were imprisoned for a year fifteen eighteen
months before going to trial and the real outrage there
buck two yes, and held in solitary confinement because of
(26:32):
alleged COVID rules, especially at the Gulag, where people were
transferred from all over the country to go to the
DC Gulag just to torment them. There weren't court proceedings
in person, corp proceedings going on in Washington in twenty
twenty one. They transferred them there, sometimes four or five
different stops along the way at other federal prisons, finally
(26:53):
making it to the DC Gulag, where they had a
special section of the DC prison system set aside for
Trump supporters. I mean, this is the sort of thing
you read about in Banana republics, not in the United States.
And yes, held in solitary designment, denied access to their family,
denied access to their attorneys. So we are going to
(27:16):
start hearing the horror stories now that these people have
been released about what has happened to them during the proceedings,
and of course while they were in custody in these violent,
dangerous Federal of prisons.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Were you hearing directly really from some of the families
as they were finding out that this was real?
Speaker 6 (27:37):
Yes, yes, And that's the first time I started hearing
we're from defendants and from family members. Oh my god,
you know so and so is coming home. I can't
believe this is and I kind of didn't believe it either.
I thought, Okay, the pardon, then there will be a
process for getting people out of jail. And it was
(27:59):
happening instantaneously. I believe that the President and I think
his acting DOJ officials, as soon as they took office,
started notifying the Bureau of Prisons in US Marshalls that
this is going to happen and to prepare to release
these defendants. So it was already sort of in motion
before the President signed that part an order. Last night,
(28:21):
it I think it was seven o'clock Eastern time.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Speaking of Julie Kelly, Declassified is her substack which you
can all subscribe to. She did so much great work
by looking into publicizing advocating for J six prisoners with
her substack and by coming on shows like this one
and now, Julie, what I want to know from you
is what do you want on this issue? And we
(28:46):
can expand this a bit more broadly into just also
cleaning up the DOJ and making sure that we don't
see more of what we saw here with J six
prisoners and a whole bunch of other things as well,
with the weaponization of the Justice Department. What do you
want to see going forward? What does justice look like
to you? And what does cleaning up DJ look like
(29:08):
to you?
Speaker 6 (29:10):
Well, I will tell you, Buck, I did talk to
the President last week for a lengthy amount of time
about this issue. So obviously he was very adamant about
pardons and also, as we saw with the other executive
order yesterday, cleaning up the Department of Justice, not just
of course what they did to him, but what they
did to Peter Navarro and to Steve Bannon and trying
(29:33):
to destroy Jeff Clark and John Eastman, his attorneys, and
then of course the J sixer. So I think he's
also very committed to exposing everything that went down in
his prosecution. The other prosecutions the J six one as well,
how the FBI was involved, what they did these armed
(29:53):
pre dawn, armed raids for non violent offenders, terrorizing families
and their entire communities. So he you know, this is
just the start. Let's put it that way. This is
just the start of accountability and transparency and all of
the things that I think resulted in President Trump's when
(30:16):
repelling the law fair dangerous, law fair, and a dj
that has no that the American people has no trust in.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Julie.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
One more for you before we let you get back to, uh,
you know, relaxing and resting and getting ready for the yeah,
the the last minute, given how how you've had to
fight through all of this, this uh insanity from the
Democrat DOJ under Biden pushing for the most extreme prosecutions
(30:49):
possible of of J six defendants and all the rest.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
What was it like to see, just as he's.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Scurrying away from the spotlight, Biden pardon his immediate family members,
along with Fauci and J six committee people, et cetera,
but particularly the Biden crime family.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
What was that like for you?
Speaker 6 (31:10):
I mean, we were all waiting for that to happen, right,
We knew it was coming, but here it was, you know,
eleven forty five or so Eastern time. He was going
to wait till the very last minute, which he did
to pardon all of his family members, giveing credence to
what we all know is that that is the Biden
crime family, crime racket. And I think we will learn
(31:31):
more about that, all of the business deals that the
Biden family initiated and were engaged in with some of
our foreign adversaries, and then funneling that to Joe Biden
despite all of his protestations to the contrary. But I
will say too, buck back to J six, that also justifies,
I think really adds fuel to the fire that the
(31:53):
J six committee was also a criminal operation, and we
know that they were engaged in criminal conduct, destroying evidence,
supporting perjury, obstructing investigations, so we know that that's the case,
and then pardoning before I call J six celebrity cops
Aquallina Ganell, Mike Finone, Daniel Hodges, and Harry Dunn who
(32:18):
committed perjury not just during that July twenty one televised
performance where they were all crying and lying about their injuries,
but also lying under oath as witnesses and victims in
J six court proceedings begging judges to throw the book
at JAY sixers based on injuries and trauma that they
never sustained. So that I think is a real travesty too, Julie.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Kelly, everybody, Julie, I know, the families and the JA
six defendants themselves appreciate your work, as does this audience,
and it must feel good to see.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
How it all came together.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Finally at the end, thank you so much, Thank you.
Speaker 6 (32:55):
Buck, thanks for all your help and covering my work.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
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Speaker 2 (34:12):
I've been meaning to get to calls today eight hund
two to two eight eight two and also the next hour.
I think we should talk a bit about how Trump
is going to be cleaning up some things in the government,
and they've already started a expulsion of leave behinds and
(34:32):
political remnants. Trump does not want the petty commissars of
Bidenism to be able to stay behind enemy lines, so
to speak, and try to gum up the works like
they did in the first Trump administration. That was something
that I was very aware of. I had friends in
the various Intel agencies, for example, who told me that
(34:55):
people had even switched from being a point political appointees
being career civil servant at least that's their designation. I
think they call it burrowing in bureaucratase. And the whole
idea is that then they cannot be fired, not at
least the same way that a or fired in replace
(35:17):
the same way that a political appointee can be. So
they're already they're wise to this. You know, they learned
a lot of lessons from the first administration of Trump
in terms of how the machinery works, in terms of
how the other side plays and fights dirty, and so
it's going to be a whole different ballgame this time.
(35:40):
And I think it's really encouraging to see that. Encouraging
to see how they've come out of the gates with
this just absolute salvo of policy, executive orders and staying
on tasks, staying focused right away. And I will also
tell you Trump was an incredible dynamo yesterday. I was exhausted,
(36:03):
Clay stayed out till like almost three o'clock in the morning.
Carry and I, she's pregnant, and you know, we went
home by about ten. Trump went from ball to inaugural
ball to inaugural ball. He was signing executive orders for hours.
He was at the inauguration. Of course, I don't know
how he does it. It's truly amazing. He's about my
(36:25):
dad's age, and this guy just is It's like he
never needs a nap. I don't know. And it's such
a difference. I mean, I think I need a nap
right now. Not right now, but at some point today.
It's such a difference from Biden sleepy Joe. We've gone
from sleepy Joe to Trump the Dynamo, and it's gonna
(36:46):
be great for America.
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