October 22, 2025 • 37 mins
Hour 2 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show dives deep into the evolving political landscape as President Donald Trump continues to shape the future of the Republican Party. The hosts analyze key gubernatorial races in New York City, Virginia, and New Jersey, emphasizing their strategic importance ahead of the midterm elections. With Democrats threatening to obstruct Trump’s agenda if they gain control of the House, the conversation highlights the stakes for conservative voters and the broader MAGA movement. A major focus of this hour is the rise of Vice President JD Vance, portrayed as a disciplined, intelligent, and family-oriented conservative leader. Vance’s background—from a troubled upbringing to Yale Law School and the Marine Corps—is framed as the embodiment of the American Dream, making him a compelling successor to Trump. The hosts defend Vance against media attacks, including criticisms from Jen Psaki and others who question his charisma (“Riz”) and unfairly target his wife, Usha Vance. They argue that Vance’s biracial family and values resonate with everyday Americans, especially parents concerned about cultural shifts revealed during COVID-era remote learning. The show also explores Ron DeSantis’s political trajectory, praising his leadership in Florida while noting how media narratives shifted once he was seen as a potential rival to Trump. The hosts discuss the ideological realignment within both parties, noting how many 1990s Democrats would now be considered Republicans due to the left’s embrace of identity politics and progressive agendas. Speculation intensifies around the 2028 presidential race, with predictions that Trump will act as kingmaker, potentially backing Vice President JD Vance with Secretary of State Marco Rubio as a running mate. On the Democratic side, Kamala Harris’s viability is questioned, with Gavin Newsom and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez floated as likely contenders. The hosts critique Harris’s campaign spending—allegedly $1.5 billion over 107 days—and her attempt to distance herself from Biden’s perceived failures. Additional commentary includes criticism of Andrew Cuomo’s refusal to appear on the show, theories about Biden’s DOJ targeting political opponents like Eric Adams, and reflections on regional differences in mask-wearing and travel friendliness. The hour concludes with endorsements for Winsome Sears and Jason Miyares in Virginia, and a call for voters to stay engaged as the midterms approach. Key SEO Terms: Donald Trump, JD Vance, Ron DeSantis, Kamala Harris, Gavin Newsom, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, MAGA movement, American Dream, midterm elections, Virginia governor race, New York City mayoral race, identity politics, school board activism, COVID remote learning, Kamala Harris campaign spending, Marco Rubio, Andrew Cuomo, Eric Adams, Biden DOJ, cultural conservatism.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Our two of Clay and Buck kicks off now, and
we are making sense of all of the big political
stories going on out there, including of course, in New
York City mayor's race. Will continue to take your talkbacks
and calls on that one. Just remember, if you're angry,
direct that anger at Clay.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Also we will.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Talk about the Virginia governor's race, New Jersey governor's race.
Those are pretty big and for really, I think a
lot of us, it's about understanding these political trajectories in
advance of the midterms, which keep in mind, once the
midterms hit, if the Democrats are able to take the House,
they're just going to stop everything they can in Trump's
(00:45):
agenda as fast as they can.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
So right now we have gotten a little spoil.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Actually, Clay remembers I told the President this when we
saw him back in June, said, Sir, my only complaint
is that you've done something so quickly and so efficiently
like securing the order, that now if it doesn't happen
right away, there's this feeling of why hasn't.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
This already happened? Look at how quickly you secured the border.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Well, that's going to be a whole lot worse, or rather,
our disappointment is going to be a whole lot heavier
if Democrats take control of the House of the Senate.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I think the Senate's looking pretty good.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I haven't gone deep into that map said it's looking
pretty good, but it's really about the House and whether
Democrats can take control.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
So that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
What's also interesting, of course, is that we are already
seeing the beginnings of the narrative shaping efforts.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
For I know it sounds a little crazy, but it's real.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Not just the midterm, but what is the future of
the Republican Party, the Democrat Party. Who's going to be running,
who takes over for Trump, who takes up the mantle
against Trump. I think we're going to be in for
a fascinating Democrat throw down on the primary side, which
is always fun because it's just the messier and nastier gets,
the more enjoyable it is. So that's fine for us.
(02:00):
But this I thought was interesting, Clay, because we talked
about on this show how when Ron DeSantis was getting
a lot of attention because and I'm a Florida resident.
I think Ron is the best governor in America.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Still.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Every time I see anything coming from the Governor's mansion
in Tallahassee, any any announcement or anything going on that the
Governor DeSantis is involved in, I've almost just come to expect, Well,
that's another good decision, that's another excellent move, that's he
I've never had this before growing up in New York,
where yes, we had the Giuliani era, but there was
(02:38):
always the Democrat City Council and there, you know, there've
always been the political realities of living in a blue
city versus living in a place that has gone decidedly read.
But remember how we talked about how they're going to
start to say, and this ties into a theory you
have about Trump is the unique political talent of the era.
They started attacking DeSantis and they even did the when
(02:58):
they thought he was going to be against Trump.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Uh, DeSantis is worse than Trump. Remember that? Oh yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Here is the former White House Press secretary under Uh
it was Obama, right, Jensen.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Bob Hockey was the initial Biden Jean Pierre.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
She was State Department under Obama State Apartment spokesperson. Here
she is starting you're gonna see more of this. Oh well,
Donald Trump, maybe Hitler, but jd Vance is even worse
than Hitler play clip one.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
I think the little mentoring candidate jd Vance wants to
be president more than anything else. I always wonder what's
going on in the mind of his wife. Okay, please
bring blank four times, we'll come over here, We'll save you.
And that he's willing to do anything to get there,
and that your whole iteration you just outlined. I mean,
(03:55):
he's scarier in certain ways, he's smart in some ways,
and he's young and ambitious and ambitious and agile in
the sense that he is a chameleon who makes himself
into whatever he thinks the audience wants to hear from him. Now,
what's also true, though, is jd Vance is not He's
(04:16):
in some ways goodish on paper if you like what
he believes in. I don't know, But I don't know
that he can take the whole movement with him.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
No way.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
I don't think so either.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
No Riz, it's got no riz right, and he's got
He just is a little odd.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
They are already panicking Clay about this because.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Notice how she can't even really so now what's it
going to be. JD is scarier in.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Essence because he's younger, He's got a more polished in
some ways resume. I mean, if you want to go
down that pathway, he's he's a scarier, younger Trump is.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Basically where they're taking.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
This, well, that's what that's the inevitable. They're going to
continue to argue. Again, I'm telling you, and some of
you think I'm crazy for saying this, as soon as
the midterms are over, when we get to January and
February of twenty seven, and believe me, the actual twenty
twenty eight presidential race will effectively start in January and
(05:16):
February of twenty twenty seven, they will start to say
Republicans will never be able to replicate Donald Trump for
the rest of our lives. They will start to acknowledge
that Trump is a unique and transcendent political force, even
the attacks. Here he's a scarier version of Trump. But
then also notice what they said, he has no riz.
(05:39):
Now there's most lenses for everybody. Riz is shorthand for charisma.
I know this from the TikTok because the kids use this.
My boys, this would be the lingo of the kids.
They would say that somebody who has appealed to the
opposite sex has lots of riz, which, as Buck just said,
comes from charisma. So they are talking to an audience
(06:02):
that probably doesn't know what riz means and trying to
attack jd Vance for not having it.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I think actually the.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Most pernicious part of this entire clip is going after
the fact that they're saying, oh, jd Vance's wife could never.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Agree with him on these issues, because that.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Just seems like, oh, we've got to go save Usha
Vance where they have three kids.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I feel like I probably know.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Usha Vance because and I may be mispronouncing her name,
but there are lots of people Usha that went to
law school thinking hey, I'm maybe a little bit left
of center. I would put myself in this category. And
then you have kids, and you see the way we're
around the same age. You see the way the country
(06:53):
is collapsing around you, and you say, this is not
the America I grew up in. And I understand some
of you rejected this argument, but nineteen nineties democrats, many
of them, most of them would be Republicans today. If
you grew up in the eighties and the nineties, go
back and look at Bill Clinton ninety two. You'll see
(07:13):
these clips circulating every now and then where Hillary Clinton
is saying we can't have illegal immigrants getting free health
care in this country. Where Joe Biden is saying we've
got to lock up violent criminals.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I mean, it's even more stark than that in some ways, Clay.
In two thousand, the New York Times editorial board, not
an op ed, the actual editorial board was writing scathing,
scathing stuff about illegal immigration lowering the wages of union
workers and hurting black workers in this country, you know,
(07:49):
more disproportionately because of the competition from illegals for wages
that young, particularly young black men would be able to
get on the open, the beginning ladder of employment jobs
in America, driving down the carse.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
The New York Times tried that.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I mean, The New York Times would be an open
revolt if someone on the op ed page tried to write, now, look,
I mean this is why a lot of you who
listen to us now have had a similar political trajectory
in your life to where I am.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I think that JD.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Vance and Oshavance would be in that category where Look,
Democrats used to argue from a sane perspective. Now, we
played that Abigail Spanberger crazy thing on trans kids.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
The Vances have three young kids.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
If you're a mom, regardless of what your politics are,
we read that Sam Ponder comment about her daughter in
high school, I mean in middle school playing against a boy.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
She's really good. By the way, where where is she
these days? I've never heard of this woman.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
She's a sportscaster person, super successful at ESPN. They regularly
came after her for basically having common sense. She married
a a former NFL quarterback, and they live in New
York City. And I don't think she has a job
in media now, which makes me think I.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Should reach out to her and see if she wants
to have a job in media.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
And the next thing I was gonna say he was Clay,
I think you might have to talk to this lady.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
I mean what she wrote was well said, and I
think is representative of lots of moms out there, and
certainly the MAHA movement has wrapped up a lot of this.
There are many of you listening to us right now
who got kids in school and during COVID you started
to see what they were being taught that was one
of the maybe only nice things that came out of
(09:34):
COVID is suddenly moms and dads were walking through seeing
their kids on remote and they said, you're this is
what your lesson plans are, this is what you're being taught.
And alarm bells started going off, and a lot of
parents all over the country who suddenly got involved with
school boards and got involved with where their sons and
daughters are going to class. And I think Busha Vance
(09:56):
is again a Maha mom ish where she's just looking
around and saying, I didn't sign up for crazy.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
You know what's going to be tough for them too,
is when they're arguing that JD.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Vance is a white supremacist, that's going to be tough.
That's going to be.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Tough for a whole range of reasons, including his wife
and his children. His children are biracial and his wife
is obviously not white. But this is a big part
of Democrat lore that to be a Republican now in
the Trump era, there's this underpinning. There's this you know,
foundational sense of white supremacy that then again they'll they
(10:32):
make that, they make the anti they make the Nazi,
which is of course, an anti Semitic argument as well
about Trump. Even the Trump son in law is Jewish
and his grandchildren on one side, or some of his
grandchildren are Jewish.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
You know, they don't care.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
They'll make the argument, even though on its face it's preposterous,
but they are going to be making a jd Vance
supports white supremacy and is not and is married to
a non white person.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
It's not going to register. They're going to make that argument.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
But there's actually a lot of Indian moms and dads
out there who are similar in age to Ushavn's and
they're looking around and they're saying, this is.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Not the country I grew up in either.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
And so I think, again, white, Black, Asian, Hispanic, a
lot of moms and dads of roughly our age, as
they become parents, start to pay attention to the culture
that surrounds their kids, and they're saying, this is not
the culture that I grew up in. And so what
they're trying to do is bully. That's what this is.
That right like Jensaki that I would say left wing
(11:33):
women are the predominant bullies in all of the political
world because they try to shame other women into thinking
for themselves and argue, oh, you have you're a feminist, right, yeah, right,
of course, but you're a feminist, right, How in the
world could you support Donald Trump? Anyway they're trying to
do it. I think it actually repulses, as opposed to attracts,
(11:57):
and I don't think it's gonna work on it.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I also think that people haven't really yet fully on
the other side, grappled with what jad Vance represents, which is,
in so many ways the completed aspiration of the American
dream comes from a difficult essentially, you know, low incomer, impoverished,
(12:19):
single parent.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Households not drug addicts, makes.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
It on his own, joins the Marine Corps, goes to
Yale Law School, meets his beautiful, brilliant wife in Yale
Law school, is building a family, you know, loves his kids,
carries his kids around with him, and you know, all
this is all really powerful stuff for normal people, normal Americans,
to see.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
They go, yeah, yeah, I'm into that.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
He's not some you know, some guy who happened to
marry his third heiress Alah like John Kerry, and you know,
moved to a safe district and did all this other stuff.
And tried, and his whole life is about the aspiration
of self.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
I think that there's a lot of JD.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Vance's story that is, it's not that it's overshadowed by Trump,
but we're still very much in the Trump era. But
that the transfer when Trump decides to be kingmaker, assuming
he does, which I think he will, for JD going forward,
I do think Maggot will be absolutely behind JD. And
I think Marco Rubio is going to be as vice president.
I think this all Actually think about how quickly that
(13:22):
rolls off of your mind, my mind, and I think
a lot of a lot of you what's them? The
Democrat plan is to see whether Kamala is such an
imbecile that that she can't run again or not.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
I mean Newsom in AOC as we said if I
were predicting, but they would not.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
You will not hear a lot of Democrats say that
right now because they don't want to get on the
wrong side of it.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I don't think that they know they're.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Going to have They're going to have an absolute Donnie
Brook when it comes to who the nominee is, I
think that I think Gavin Newsome Royal rumble style will
throw everybody else out of the ring and emerge as
the nominee, and JD will be.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Able to continue not only the machinery of Trump and
the MAGA movement, but he is ideologically aligned with Trump.
You can't have a Democrat who's ideologically tying himself to Biden.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
That's a disaster.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
And you also know that they can't win on some
of these issues at the national level, So they're gonna
have to try to play this game of I say
one thing to one audience, another thing to another audience.
You know, Gavin Newsom is gonna be fifteen versions of
Gavin Newsom if he's the nomination.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
And look, here's the.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Other thing on JD. And I think Marco will be
this too. They're not as bull in a china shop
as Trump. How often does Trump get attacked? Not on
the finale, We're gonna miss it, hilarious. I think there
is an argument that the bull in a china shop
is the reason Trump is president, and that the JD
may be too disciplined to get as much attention on
(14:46):
the issues as Trump does.
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Speaker 4 (16:18):
We are discussing the big elections thirteen days away Virginia,
New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
One bit of good news.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
J Jones, the Virginia AG candidate for the Democrats who
said that he wanted to kill the kids of a
Republican wanted to see them die, has plummeted. And Jason Miarez,
who we had on the show about ten days ago,
I would say, is surging right now.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
So again we want everybody out there voting.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
I think one of the questions that's going to emerge
in Virginia is how much is he dragging down the
overall ticket. Again, everybody out there in Virginia should be
voting for winsome Seers and Jason Miarrez. But I do
think there is some quiet momentum. And if you doubted it,
the fact that they have had to get Barack Obama
(17:09):
involved in both New Jersey and Virginia, states that do
favor the Democrat tickets Buck is a sign that maybe
the overall narrative is not breaking in their way. Remember
Glenn Youngkin caught fire over school related issues about four
years ago and rode that to a victory in Virginia.
(17:30):
We'll see whether the same kind of school related issues
in many ways could also propel still win some Seers
in that direction also.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Absolutely absolutely, Look, I'm hopeful that when some Seers is
going to be able to pull off, will be a
huge win in Virginia. Look, I think she's a great lady,
and I think that you do great things for a
state that's very near and dear to my heart.
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Speaker 1 (19:57):
It is my third time to Fort Win, Indiana.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
How many guys who grew up in Manhattan have gone
on three separate joyous adventures to Fort Wayne, Indiana. I
think I'm in I think I'm in a pretty elite
company there, mister Clay, So you know, I'm kind of
old hat here at all things, Fort Wayne.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
I have been here.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Although you were telling me somebody's upset at me for
call me a liar? What's the late what's the reason
that that I was called a liar on social media
by this person one of.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Our one of our esteemed listeners writes, yesterday Clay said
he was flying home from New York City, yet today
he continues saying he's in Indiana. Guy's a fraud or
or Clay got up early as I did to go
to this thing called the airport and come here.
Speaker 7 (20:44):
There's another possibility I'm thrown out there all that you
were in Nashville last night.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Of all the accusations to be levied against me saying
that I'm a fraud, I did full disclosure, fly from
New York City to Nashville late last night, slept at home,
and then got up early this morning and flew to Indiana.
So if you need, if you need direct evidence, I'm
sure there's lots of people who saw me at the
airport that can confirmed that I did, in fact travel
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from New York City to Nashville back to Indiana.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I've reached a point where I almost could tell like
if you if you just put me on a plane
and you didn't tell me where I was going, But
just based on the friendliness of some of the passengers
to me on the flight, I can I know if
we're going to a red state or a blue state.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
For the most part, you know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
When I'm going to someone, when I'm flying to Nashville,
someone always is like and the people are usually pretty
pretty chill about it, pretty low key, like, hey man,
Lena love the show as they walk past, you know,
as they're or you know, as they're walking next to
me in line to get on the plane.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
But when I'm going to LA or New York, very
large cities, not always the kid, not always as likely,
not always as likely. It depends, you know.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
But if if I'm heading to Tennessee or or or
Texas or any any very solid red part of the country,
we tend to come across our wonderful listeners, and I'm
always very thankful when they come over and say hi
and all that.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
It is fantastic. I will say.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Every time I fly to or from New York City,
the number of people still wearing masks on the airplane,
it blows my mind. You live in Miami now, you
probably don't see it that often. Now ever, it's very
rare do I see it?
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Certainly not in like the day to day life and
the airports you'll see a couple of people. But it's
in LA. I saw a lot because I stopped in
La before I went to Taiwan. There were a fair
number of masks in that airport.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Well, I mean, I think that's an Asian thing for
a long time right in Lah.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah. Yeah, No, there's a lot of masks in Taiwan.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
And it's one of my only gripes with the entire
but they've been doing they do it.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
It's more of a.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah, they've been doing it since way before COVID, and
it's viewed almost more like a politeness thing if you
have a cold, I think, and so I give a pass. Also,
I just the time and his people are so lovely
that I just I just give them a pass on
this in general. But there's you will see a lot
of masks in East Asia. For sure, that's a real thing.
But that's not a COVID specific thing that predated code.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
This is all COVID specific.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Still, I was kind of blown away on my flight
last night from New York City to Nashville. Okay, we
have invited I think we got asked about this a lot.
Producer Ali tells me that we have invited Andrew Cuomo
three different times on the show.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Cuomo will not come on, I.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Think buck because I said I'm gonna be honest. A
lot of awful things all true about Andrew Cuomo during COVID,
and I know you did.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
Maybe I could interview him as himself, be like, excuse me, sir,
why did you put it all of the elderly with
COVID in nursing homes at the worst possible time.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Please answer question for me.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
We could see where he goes, and I bet that
is one reason that he will not come on, although
my argument would be he should be trying to talk
to everybody because he's losing in the race is thirteen
days away now.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
If he's scared of us, by the way, what else,
what does that tell you? I mean, look, we would
push him hard on some things.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Actually, the COVID thing I wouldn't waste that much time
on if we had him on, just because that's not
an issue for New York right now.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I do want to hold Aim accountable.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
I would ask him about it, but you know, we
are not going to turn it into like a COVID
fest because I just want old ladies not to be
you know, smashed on the head with hammers by maniacs
in the subway, and not scare away business and not
have the streets fill. Feel like I would just want
New York to be well governed, and that's what matters
right now.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Actually, I'm curious if Cuomo would tell us I think
that Joe Biden ordered the hit on Cuomo, like the
Biden White House, because I think Cuomo would have potentially
run against Joe Biden in the primary in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Underdiscussed stories is how much of the law fair against
Trump was directly coordinated with the Biden White House, the
Biden not just the Biden DOJ of course, which is
running it, the Biden white House itself, everybody, it was.
It was all being run through Command Central. And Biden
wanted Trump to go to prison. He actually wanted his
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opponent to go to prison.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
And I think he wanted Cuomo done in New York.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
I think if Biden had wanted to stop that sexual
harassment investigation, I mean, the look.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
They definitely look what they did to this White House,
I'm sorry, previous white House, this Biden White House. Man,
they fought thirty the Eric Adams thing, that could not
have been more clear. You're going to bring federal corruption
charges against a mayor.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
For upgrades upgrades and.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Calling to try and get Fire Department approval on fire.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
You know, like some people didn't see this and they
were getting mad. I was like, why are you guys
standing up for a Democrat.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
It's just about state for what's right and what's reasonable.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
The reason they were giving Eric Adams the code read
was because he was a very important piece early on
of telling the real story about illegal waves of migration
into American cities that Biden wanted that Biden's team supported,
and how it was really cost intensive and bad for
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those cities. He broke with the consensus on that one,
and it mattered, and.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Every investigation started.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Yes, as soon as he went public and said, we're
spending way too much money on illegals.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
They're taking over hotels.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
And again, I think that Biden ordered the code red
through his Department of Justice on Eric Adams and on
Cuomo because he's on his team.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Wheneverybody say Biden, we mean the whole Credien is smart
enough or brain worked well enough to be managing all
of this.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
But I think he had awful, awful vindictive crew surrounding
him Team Biden. If you read the book Original Sin
by Jake Tapper, you will find, as I did, that
they really did have sort of the Biden mafia that
was like a crime family in the way that they
held grudges, in the way they went after who they
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perceived to be.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Any I gotta tell you, man, the Kamala one hundred
and seventy days as the comologist on this show, like
one hundred and seventy like one hundred and seven days
when I was reading it. But the whole thing is
meant to create separation from the Biden disaster and elevation
for Kamala, and truly reading this book, it fails because
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at every stage it's everyone else was messing up but me.
Everyone else was giving bad advice, everyone else was making
the wrong decision. It is a book of zero accountability
for Kamala, and I just think that it comes across
too obviously as such for it to be a Okay,
(28:02):
now I'm the you know, I am separate from this disaster.
I didn't just get off one of the lifeboats in
the Titanic. I'm actually going to be my own entity.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Now, you know what you would do, Why you would
write a book like that, because you're gonna run again?
Speaker 2 (28:17):
No, she wants to, Yeah, but I'm saying I actually book,
I am more with her. This is what I am
more convinced now that there's gonna be a lot of
pressure on her not to run, because remember, every dollar
that's given to her is not a dollar given to
Gavin Newsom. Every person who gets behind her in that primary,
Gavin Newsom is gonna be fighting with her. And if
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she loses the primary, she's done, done, done, finished. She
still has uh chips to cash in for what I've
said all along, and I just can't wait until she's
I'm like some third tier school Clay starts throwing out
school names.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I'm like, don't don't upset our uc audience here with this.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
I think she's not bad. It's gonna sound funny. I
don't think they will give her Berkeley or UCLA. I
think UCSB is where she'll end up.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
But that's that's where I think this is.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
This is all heading for her just because the book
it did not it did not come across as as
what was intended. Also, I mean if she obviously didn't
write it, so I mean this it's all. It feels
all very stage managed and structured. There's Na Kamala's voice.
Doesn't come across I look as a comologist, I have
to speak honestly about these things. I didn't get a
lot of Kamala out of this book. I got a
(29:30):
lot of group think whatever people wanted to write about her,
that she's hired to try to create the next phase
for her, and and she was a part. You cannot
separate yourself as Kamala from the lie, the embarrassing lie
of Biden's cognition and Biden's clear deterioration.
Speaker 7 (29:52):
And this is like, look at Clayton Cree. Jean Pierre
is doing the same thing right now. She's going, oh,
I didn't know I I could. Well, so then you're
just telling us you're an idiot. That's not good either.
I'm an idiot is not a good answer really to
very much of anything. And I'm just a really, really
shameless liar is also not a good place.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
They only have two options with this one. So this
is why I think the Democrat Party has got to
gotta go in a in a different direction on this.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
WS is coming out today speaking of Kamala that the
DNC is still getting bills from her campaign and still
paying it off. It's one reason the DNC doesn't have money.
It isn't talked about enough. Kamala said they didn't hear
my message. That's her argument. She spent buck one point
five billion dollars in one hundred and seven days.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
How much did did they actually pay? Megan v Stallion?
Wasn't that wasn't she the one who performed at one
of the right on contemporary to do the math here
contemporary hip hop culture? But what was the wasn't there
wasn't there wasn't a Meghan the style? Remember the performance
that was like, I think it was ten million dollars
they paid or something.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
The math right now in my calculator, and I'm not
great at math. So if I got this wrong, you
guys can correct me. I think her campaign spent buck
Think about this for a minute. Fourteen million dollars a day,
that's what is that? Five hundred thousand dollars an hour
for her entire campaign.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
That's for a candidate who should have as the vice president.
Pretty much universal name recognition, also, constant media coverage, constant
media coverage, the ability to move around a lot with
government resources, and she already has a secret service details,
she already has all these things.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
So no, she was. She was a disaster.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
And look to one of our callers, I think we
called in yesterday it is true that if Quoma becomes
a mayor of New York, I think Cuoma's going to
run for president.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Well, look everybody who is a decent he may run
for president even if he doesn't become mayor of New York,
because what else does he have going on. That's how
much kamal is spent every day, every hour, every hour, hour,
five hundred and eighty four thousand dollars an hour for
her one hundred and seven day campaign. I mean, I
don't even understand how you could spend that amount of money.
(32:08):
I mean, obviously a lot of television ads. We'll talk
about this a bit more, but I do think that
as the DNC, And one of the consequences is the
RNC has way more money right now raise than the
DNC because a lot of people feel cheated based on
the Kamala campaign and how much they had to spend
to try to get her across the finish line. We
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stories out there that we're going to dive into in
the third hour, and uh, let's see. Let's play this
because I think it'll set the table for part of
our conversation in the third hour. Buck, you know a
little bit more about the New York City radio market
than I do. But Curtis Leewa has had a show
(34:25):
for a very long time on a CATS John Castidas.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
He owns this station.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
He has a Catsimatidas has called for Curtis Great New Yorker,
for Curtis to drop out of the race. This happened
on his station in New York City. Cut twenty two.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Everybody makes some mistakes. I've made mistakes. The sign of
a decent human being is when you're confronted to apologize.
And I'm waiting for the apologies of my former friends
and colleagues at WABC who said that I'm running a
lazy campaign, and then I'm selfish. That's why you will
(35:07):
never see me there again at WABC.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
I think he's been on the air there a very
long time on WABC, if memory serves.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Well, he wouldn't been able to stay on the air
while the campaign was going on, so he would have
had to withdraw I think for that purpose. But he
seems like he's angry at his radio colleagues for pointing
out the truth, which is he can't win. And Kats
and John Katsametidas went on Fox News and called directly
for him to drop out. I presume that he said
(35:38):
this privately and finally decided he needed to say it
publicly as well.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Well.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
I think that there are people and John Katz and
his whole crew over there, and also his family. They're
all very invested in the best possible New York and
I mean that personally and financially, the best possible New
York imaginable, and so under the circumstances, a Cuomo situation
(36:03):
is better than a Mamdani situation. And there's not going
to be a Sliwa situation is what they have decided
based on the political realities of New York City. But
there may be could be a Cuomo situation that is
more likely if Slea were to drop, and he's not
gonna drop, and so here we are, and people can
make of that what they will.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
It is a free country.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Curtis Leewa has every right to stay in if he
chooses to do so. But the people at WABC and
elsewhere and on this show, I have every right to
say that that's just hurting New York or hurting New
York's chances to not be a Kami Healthcape. This is
the way it goes right, It's it's got to be
a two way street. So he's allowed to make that case.
(36:45):
We'll try to have him on here. Well, we'll put
out that invite. I know he's done many of our
friends radio shows, so we'll have that discussion.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
But lookt the Mamdani situation is troubling. I'll put it that.
I wish I could say that this I'm gonna like
a lot of family in New York City.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Nah, my family lives in New York, So I am
very this is very near and dear to my heart.
I got a little nephew, he's just started school. I mean,
you know, this stuff matters on this on this side
of things.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
So we'll come back to it.
Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Our two of Clay and Buck kicks off now, and
we are making sense of all of the big political
stories going on out there, including of course, in New
York City mayor's race. Will continue to take your talkbacks
and calls on that one. Just remember, if you're angry,
direct that anger at Clay.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Also we will.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Talk about the Virginia governor's race, New Jersey governor's race.
Those are pretty big and for really, I think a
lot of us, it's about understanding these political trajectories in
advance of the midterms, which keep in mind, once the
midterms hit, if the Democrats are able to take the House,
they're just going to stop everything they can in Trump's
(00:45):
agenda as fast as they can.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
So right now we have gotten a little spoil.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Actually, Clay remembers I told the President this when we
saw him back in June, said, Sir, my only complaint
is that you've done something so quickly and so efficiently
like securing the order, that now if it doesn't happen
right away, there's this feeling of why hasn't.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
This already happened? Look at how quickly you secured the border.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Well, that's going to be a whole lot worse, or rather,
our disappointment is going to be a whole lot heavier
if Democrats take control of the House of the Senate.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I think the Senate's looking pretty good.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I haven't gone deep into that map said it's looking
pretty good, but it's really about the House and whether
Democrats can take control.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
So that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
What's also interesting, of course, is that we are already
seeing the beginnings of the narrative shaping efforts.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
For I know it sounds a little crazy, but it's real.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Not just the midterm, but what is the future of
the Republican Party, the Democrat Party. Who's going to be running,
who takes over for Trump, who takes up the mantle
against Trump. I think we're going to be in for
a fascinating Democrat throw down on the primary side, which
is always fun because it's just the messier and nastier gets,
the more enjoyable it is. So that's fine for us.
(02:00):
But this I thought was interesting, Clay, because we talked
about on this show how when Ron DeSantis was getting
a lot of attention because and I'm a Florida resident.
I think Ron is the best governor in America.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Still.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Every time I see anything coming from the Governor's mansion
in Tallahassee, any any announcement or anything going on that the
Governor DeSantis is involved in, I've almost just come to expect, Well,
that's another good decision, that's another excellent move, that's he
I've never had this before growing up in New York,
where yes, we had the Giuliani era, but there was
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always the Democrat City Council and there, you know, there've
always been the political realities of living in a blue
city versus living in a place that has gone decidedly read.
But remember how we talked about how they're going to
start to say, and this ties into a theory you
have about Trump is the unique political talent of the era.
They started attacking DeSantis and they even did the when
(02:58):
they thought he was going to be against Trump.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Uh, DeSantis is worse than Trump. Remember that? Oh yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Here is the former White House Press secretary under Uh
it was Obama, right, Jensen.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Bob Hockey was the initial Biden Jean Pierre.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
She was State Department under Obama State Apartment spokesperson. Here
she is starting you're gonna see more of this. Oh well,
Donald Trump, maybe Hitler, but jd Vance is even worse
than Hitler play clip one.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
I think the little mentoring candidate jd Vance wants to
be president more than anything else. I always wonder what's
going on in the mind of his wife. Okay, please
bring blank four times, we'll come over here, We'll save you.
And that he's willing to do anything to get there,
and that your whole iteration you just outlined. I mean,
(03:55):
he's scarier in certain ways, he's smart in some ways,
and he's young and ambitious and ambitious and agile in
the sense that he is a chameleon who makes himself
into whatever he thinks the audience wants to hear from him. Now,
what's also true, though, is jd Vance is not He's
(04:16):
in some ways goodish on paper if you like what
he believes in. I don't know, But I don't know
that he can take the whole movement with him.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
No way.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
I don't think so either.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
No Riz, it's got no riz right, and he's got
He just is a little odd.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
They are already panicking Clay about this because.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Notice how she can't even really so now what's it
going to be. JD is scarier in.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Essence because he's younger, He's got a more polished in
some ways resume. I mean, if you want to go
down that pathway, he's he's a scarier, younger Trump is.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Basically where they're taking.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
This, well, that's what that's the inevitable. They're going to
continue to argue. Again, I'm telling you, and some of
you think I'm crazy for saying this, as soon as
the midterms are over, when we get to January and
February of twenty seven, and believe me, the actual twenty
twenty eight presidential race will effectively start in January and
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February of twenty twenty seven, they will start to say
Republicans will never be able to replicate Donald Trump for
the rest of our lives. They will start to acknowledge
that Trump is a unique and transcendent political force, even
the attacks. Here he's a scarier version of Trump. But
then also notice what they said, he has no riz.
(05:39):
Now there's most lenses for everybody. Riz is shorthand for charisma.
I know this from the TikTok because the kids use this.
My boys, this would be the lingo of the kids.
They would say that somebody who has appealed to the
opposite sex has lots of riz, which, as Buck just said,
comes from charisma. So they are talking to an audience
(06:02):
that probably doesn't know what riz means and trying to
attack jd Vance for not having it.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I think actually the.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Most pernicious part of this entire clip is going after
the fact that they're saying, oh, jd Vance's wife could never.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Agree with him on these issues, because that.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Just seems like, oh, we've got to go save Usha
Vance where they have three kids.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I feel like I probably know.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Usha Vance because and I may be mispronouncing her name,
but there are lots of people Usha that went to
law school thinking hey, I'm maybe a little bit left
of center. I would put myself in this category. And
then you have kids, and you see the way we're
around the same age. You see the way the country
(06:53):
is collapsing around you, and you say, this is not
the America I grew up in. And I understand some
of you rejected this argument, but nineteen nineties democrats, many
of them, most of them would be Republicans today. If
you grew up in the eighties and the nineties, go
back and look at Bill Clinton ninety two. You'll see
(07:13):
these clips circulating every now and then where Hillary Clinton
is saying we can't have illegal immigrants getting free health
care in this country. Where Joe Biden is saying we've
got to lock up violent criminals.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I mean, it's even more stark than that in some ways, Clay.
In two thousand, the New York Times editorial board, not
an op ed, the actual editorial board was writing scathing,
scathing stuff about illegal immigration lowering the wages of union
workers and hurting black workers in this country, you know,
(07:49):
more disproportionately because of the competition from illegals for wages
that young, particularly young black men would be able to
get on the open, the beginning ladder of employment jobs
in America, driving down the carse.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
The New York Times tried that.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I mean, The New York Times would be an open
revolt if someone on the op ed page tried to write, now, look,
I mean this is why a lot of you who
listen to us now have had a similar political trajectory
in your life to where I am.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I think that JD.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Vance and Oshavance would be in that category where Look,
Democrats used to argue from a sane perspective. Now, we
played that Abigail Spanberger crazy thing on trans kids.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
The Vances have three young kids.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
If you're a mom, regardless of what your politics are,
we read that Sam Ponder comment about her daughter in
high school, I mean in middle school playing against a boy.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
She's really good. By the way, where where is she
these days? I've never heard of this woman.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
She's a sportscaster person, super successful at ESPN. They regularly
came after her for basically having common sense. She married
a a former NFL quarterback, and they live in New
York City. And I don't think she has a job
in media now, which makes me think I.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Should reach out to her and see if she wants
to have a job in media.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
And the next thing I was gonna say he was Clay,
I think you might have to talk to this lady.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
I mean what she wrote was well said, and I
think is representative of lots of moms out there, and
certainly the MAHA movement has wrapped up a lot of this.
There are many of you listening to us right now
who got kids in school and during COVID you started
to see what they were being taught that was one
of the maybe only nice things that came out of
(09:34):
COVID is suddenly moms and dads were walking through seeing
their kids on remote and they said, you're this is
what your lesson plans are, this is what you're being taught.
And alarm bells started going off, and a lot of
parents all over the country who suddenly got involved with
school boards and got involved with where their sons and
daughters are going to class. And I think Busha Vance
(09:56):
is again a Maha mom ish where she's just looking
around and saying, I didn't sign up for crazy.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
You know what's going to be tough for them too,
is when they're arguing that JD.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Vance is a white supremacist, that's going to be tough.
That's going to be.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Tough for a whole range of reasons, including his wife
and his children. His children are biracial and his wife
is obviously not white. But this is a big part
of Democrat lore that to be a Republican now in
the Trump era, there's this underpinning. There's this you know,
foundational sense of white supremacy that then again they'll they
(10:32):
make that, they make the anti they make the Nazi,
which is of course, an anti Semitic argument as well
about Trump. Even the Trump son in law is Jewish
and his grandchildren on one side, or some of his
grandchildren are Jewish.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
You know, they don't care.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
They'll make the argument, even though on its face it's preposterous,
but they are going to be making a jd Vance
supports white supremacy and is not and is married to
a non white person.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
It's not going to register. They're going to make that argument.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
But there's actually a lot of Indian moms and dads
out there who are similar in age to Ushavn's and
they're looking around and they're saying, this is.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Not the country I grew up in either.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
And so I think, again, white, Black, Asian, Hispanic, a
lot of moms and dads of roughly our age, as
they become parents, start to pay attention to the culture
that surrounds their kids, and they're saying, this is not
the culture that I grew up in. And so what
they're trying to do is bully. That's what this is.
That right like Jensaki that I would say left wing
(11:33):
women are the predominant bullies in all of the political
world because they try to shame other women into thinking
for themselves and argue, oh, you have you're a feminist, right, yeah, right,
of course, but you're a feminist, right, How in the
world could you support Donald Trump? Anyway they're trying to
do it. I think it actually repulses, as opposed to attracts,
(11:57):
and I don't think it's gonna work on it.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I also think that people haven't really yet fully on
the other side, grappled with what jad Vance represents, which is,
in so many ways the completed aspiration of the American
dream comes from a difficult essentially, you know, low incomer, impoverished,
(12:19):
single parent.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Households not drug addicts, makes.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
It on his own, joins the Marine Corps, goes to
Yale Law School, meets his beautiful, brilliant wife in Yale
Law school, is building a family, you know, loves his kids,
carries his kids around with him, and you know, all
this is all really powerful stuff for normal people, normal Americans,
to see.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
They go, yeah, yeah, I'm into that.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
He's not some you know, some guy who happened to
marry his third heiress Alah like John Kerry, and you know,
moved to a safe district and did all this other stuff.
And tried, and his whole life is about the aspiration
of self.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
I think that there's a lot of JD.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Vance's story that is, it's not that it's overshadowed by Trump,
but we're still very much in the Trump era. But
that the transfer when Trump decides to be kingmaker, assuming
he does, which I think he will, for JD going forward,
I do think Maggot will be absolutely behind JD. And
I think Marco Rubio is going to be as vice president.
I think this all Actually think about how quickly that
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rolls off of your mind, my mind, and I think
a lot of a lot of you what's them? The
Democrat plan is to see whether Kamala is such an
imbecile that that she can't run again or not.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
I mean Newsom in AOC as we said if I
were predicting, but they would not.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
You will not hear a lot of Democrats say that
right now because they don't want to get on the
wrong side of it.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I don't think that they know they're.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Going to have They're going to have an absolute Donnie
Brook when it comes to who the nominee is, I
think that I think Gavin Newsome Royal rumble style will
throw everybody else out of the ring and emerge as
the nominee, and JD will be.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Able to continue not only the machinery of Trump and
the MAGA movement, but he is ideologically aligned with Trump.
You can't have a Democrat who's ideologically tying himself to Biden.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
That's a disaster.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
And you also know that they can't win on some
of these issues at the national level, So they're gonna
have to try to play this game of I say
one thing to one audience, another thing to another audience.
You know, Gavin Newsom is gonna be fifteen versions of
Gavin Newsom if he's the nomination.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
And look, here's the.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Other thing on JD. And I think Marco will be
this too. They're not as bull in a china shop
as Trump. How often does Trump get attacked? Not on
the finale, We're gonna miss it, hilarious. I think there
is an argument that the bull in a china shop
is the reason Trump is president, and that the JD
may be too disciplined to get as much attention on
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the issues as Trump does.
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Speaker 4 (16:18):
We are discussing the big elections thirteen days away Virginia,
New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
One bit of good news.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
J Jones, the Virginia AG candidate for the Democrats who
said that he wanted to kill the kids of a
Republican wanted to see them die, has plummeted. And Jason Miarez,
who we had on the show about ten days ago,
I would say, is surging right now.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
So again we want everybody out there voting.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
I think one of the questions that's going to emerge
in Virginia is how much is he dragging down the
overall ticket. Again, everybody out there in Virginia should be
voting for winsome Seers and Jason Miarrez. But I do
think there is some quiet momentum. And if you doubted it,
the fact that they have had to get Barack Obama
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involved in both New Jersey and Virginia, states that do
favor the Democrat tickets Buck is a sign that maybe
the overall narrative is not breaking in their way. Remember
Glenn Youngkin caught fire over school related issues about four
years ago and rode that to a victory in Virginia.
(17:30):
We'll see whether the same kind of school related issues
in many ways could also propel still win some Seers
in that direction also.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Absolutely absolutely, Look, I'm hopeful that when some Seers is
going to be able to pull off, will be a
huge win in Virginia. Look, I think she's a great lady,
and I think that you do great things for a
state that's very near and dear to my heart.
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Speaker 1 (19:57):
It is my third time to Fort Win, Indiana.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
How many guys who grew up in Manhattan have gone
on three separate joyous adventures to Fort Wayne, Indiana. I
think I'm in I think I'm in a pretty elite
company there, mister Clay, So you know, I'm kind of
old hat here at all things, Fort Wayne.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
I have been here.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Although you were telling me somebody's upset at me for
call me a liar? What's the late what's the reason
that that I was called a liar on social media
by this person one of.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Our one of our esteemed listeners writes, yesterday Clay said
he was flying home from New York City, yet today
he continues saying he's in Indiana. Guy's a fraud or
or Clay got up early as I did to go
to this thing called the airport and come here.
Speaker 7 (20:44):
There's another possibility I'm thrown out there all that you
were in Nashville last night.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Of all the accusations to be levied against me saying
that I'm a fraud, I did full disclosure, fly from
New York City to Nashville late last night, slept at home,
and then got up early this morning and flew to Indiana.
So if you need, if you need direct evidence, I'm
sure there's lots of people who saw me at the
airport that can confirmed that I did, in fact travel
(21:09):
from New York City to Nashville back to Indiana.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I've reached a point where I almost could tell like
if you if you just put me on a plane
and you didn't tell me where I was going, But
just based on the friendliness of some of the passengers
to me on the flight, I can I know if
we're going to a red state or a blue state.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
For the most part, you know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
When I'm going to someone, when I'm flying to Nashville,
someone always is like and the people are usually pretty
pretty chill about it, pretty low key, like, hey man,
Lena love the show as they walk past, you know,
as they're or you know, as they're walking next to
me in line to get on the plane.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
But when I'm going to LA or New York, very
large cities, not always the kid, not always as likely,
not always as likely. It depends, you know.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
But if if I'm heading to Tennessee or or or
Texas or any any very solid red part of the country,
we tend to come across our wonderful listeners, and I'm
always very thankful when they come over and say hi
and all that.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
It is fantastic. I will say.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Every time I fly to or from New York City,
the number of people still wearing masks on the airplane,
it blows my mind. You live in Miami now, you
probably don't see it that often. Now ever, it's very
rare do I see it?
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Certainly not in like the day to day life and
the airports you'll see a couple of people. But it's
in LA. I saw a lot because I stopped in
La before I went to Taiwan. There were a fair
number of masks in that airport.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Well, I mean, I think that's an Asian thing for
a long time right in Lah.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah. Yeah, No, there's a lot of masks in Taiwan.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
And it's one of my only gripes with the entire
but they've been doing they do it.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
It's more of a.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah, they've been doing it since way before COVID, and
it's viewed almost more like a politeness thing if you
have a cold, I think, and so I give a pass. Also,
I just the time and his people are so lovely
that I just I just give them a pass on
this in general. But there's you will see a lot
of masks in East Asia. For sure, that's a real thing.
But that's not a COVID specific thing that predated code.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
This is all COVID specific.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Still, I was kind of blown away on my flight
last night from New York City to Nashville. Okay, we
have invited I think we got asked about this a lot.
Producer Ali tells me that we have invited Andrew Cuomo
three different times on the show.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Cuomo will not come on, I.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Think buck because I said I'm gonna be honest. A
lot of awful things all true about Andrew Cuomo during COVID,
and I know you did.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
Maybe I could interview him as himself, be like, excuse me, sir,
why did you put it all of the elderly with
COVID in nursing homes at the worst possible time.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Please answer question for me.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
We could see where he goes, and I bet that
is one reason that he will not come on, although
my argument would be he should be trying to talk
to everybody because he's losing in the race is thirteen
days away now.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
If he's scared of us, by the way, what else,
what does that tell you? I mean, look, we would
push him hard on some things.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Actually, the COVID thing I wouldn't waste that much time
on if we had him on, just because that's not
an issue for New York right now.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I do want to hold Aim accountable.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
I would ask him about it, but you know, we
are not going to turn it into like a COVID
fest because I just want old ladies not to be
you know, smashed on the head with hammers by maniacs
in the subway, and not scare away business and not
have the streets fill. Feel like I would just want
New York to be well governed, and that's what matters
right now.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Actually, I'm curious if Cuomo would tell us I think
that Joe Biden ordered the hit on Cuomo, like the
Biden White House, because I think Cuomo would have potentially
run against Joe Biden in the primary in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Underdiscussed stories is how much of the law fair against
Trump was directly coordinated with the Biden White House, the
Biden not just the Biden DOJ of course, which is
running it, the Biden white House itself, everybody, it was.
It was all being run through Command Central. And Biden
wanted Trump to go to prison. He actually wanted his
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opponent to go to prison.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
And I think he wanted Cuomo done in New York.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
I think if Biden had wanted to stop that sexual
harassment investigation, I mean, the look.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
They definitely look what they did to this White House,
I'm sorry, previous white House, this Biden White House. Man,
they fought thirty the Eric Adams thing, that could not
have been more clear. You're going to bring federal corruption
charges against a mayor.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
For upgrades upgrades and.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Calling to try and get Fire Department approval on fire.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
You know, like some people didn't see this and they
were getting mad. I was like, why are you guys
standing up for a Democrat.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
It's just about state for what's right and what's reasonable.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
The reason they were giving Eric Adams the code read
was because he was a very important piece early on
of telling the real story about illegal waves of migration
into American cities that Biden wanted that Biden's team supported,
and how it was really cost intensive and bad for
(26:23):
those cities. He broke with the consensus on that one,
and it mattered, and.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Every investigation started.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Yes, as soon as he went public and said, we're
spending way too much money on illegals.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
They're taking over hotels.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
And again, I think that Biden ordered the code red
through his Department of Justice on Eric Adams and on
Cuomo because he's on his team.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Wheneverybody say Biden, we mean the whole Credien is smart
enough or brain worked well enough to be managing all
of this.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
But I think he had awful, awful vindictive crew surrounding
him Team Biden. If you read the book Original Sin
by Jake Tapper, you will find, as I did, that
they really did have sort of the Biden mafia that
was like a crime family in the way that they
held grudges, in the way they went after who they
(27:17):
perceived to be.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Any I gotta tell you, man, the Kamala one hundred
and seventy days as the comologist on this show, like
one hundred and seventy like one hundred and seven days
when I was reading it. But the whole thing is
meant to create separation from the Biden disaster and elevation
for Kamala, and truly reading this book, it fails because
(27:41):
at every stage it's everyone else was messing up but me.
Everyone else was giving bad advice, everyone else was making
the wrong decision. It is a book of zero accountability
for Kamala, and I just think that it comes across
too obviously as such for it to be a Okay,
(28:02):
now I'm the you know, I am separate from this disaster.
I didn't just get off one of the lifeboats in
the Titanic. I'm actually going to be my own entity.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Now, you know what you would do, Why you would
write a book like that, because you're gonna run again?
Speaker 2 (28:17):
No, she wants to, Yeah, but I'm saying I actually book,
I am more with her. This is what I am
more convinced now that there's gonna be a lot of
pressure on her not to run, because remember, every dollar
that's given to her is not a dollar given to
Gavin Newsom. Every person who gets behind her in that primary,
Gavin Newsom is gonna be fighting with her. And if
(28:39):
she loses the primary, she's done, done, done, finished. She
still has uh chips to cash in for what I've
said all along, and I just can't wait until she's
I'm like some third tier school Clay starts throwing out
school names.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I'm like, don't don't upset our uc audience here with this.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
I think she's not bad. It's gonna sound funny. I
don't think they will give her Berkeley or UCLA. I
think UCSB is where she'll end up.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
But that's that's where I think this is.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
This is all heading for her just because the book
it did not it did not come across as as
what was intended. Also, I mean if she obviously didn't
write it, so I mean this it's all. It feels
all very stage managed and structured. There's Na Kamala's voice.
Doesn't come across I look as a comologist, I have
to speak honestly about these things. I didn't get a
lot of Kamala out of this book. I got a
(29:30):
lot of group think whatever people wanted to write about her,
that she's hired to try to create the next phase
for her, and and she was a part. You cannot
separate yourself as Kamala from the lie, the embarrassing lie
of Biden's cognition and Biden's clear deterioration.
Speaker 7 (29:52):
And this is like, look at Clayton Cree. Jean Pierre
is doing the same thing right now. She's going, oh,
I didn't know I I could. Well, so then you're
just telling us you're an idiot. That's not good either.
I'm an idiot is not a good answer really to
very much of anything. And I'm just a really, really
shameless liar is also not a good place.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
They only have two options with this one. So this
is why I think the Democrat Party has got to
gotta go in a in a different direction on this.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
WS is coming out today speaking of Kamala that the
DNC is still getting bills from her campaign and still
paying it off. It's one reason the DNC doesn't have money.
It isn't talked about enough. Kamala said they didn't hear
my message. That's her argument. She spent buck one point
five billion dollars in one hundred and seven days.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
How much did did they actually pay? Megan v Stallion?
Wasn't that wasn't she the one who performed at one
of the right on contemporary to do the math here
contemporary hip hop culture? But what was the wasn't there
wasn't there wasn't a Meghan the style? Remember the performance
that was like, I think it was ten million dollars
they paid or something.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
The math right now in my calculator, and I'm not
great at math. So if I got this wrong, you
guys can correct me. I think her campaign spent buck
Think about this for a minute. Fourteen million dollars a day,
that's what is that? Five hundred thousand dollars an hour
for her entire campaign.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
That's for a candidate who should have as the vice president.
Pretty much universal name recognition, also, constant media coverage, constant
media coverage, the ability to move around a lot with
government resources, and she already has a secret service details,
she already has all these things.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
So no, she was. She was a disaster.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
And look to one of our callers, I think we
called in yesterday it is true that if Quoma becomes
a mayor of New York, I think Cuoma's going to
run for president.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Well, look everybody who is a decent he may run
for president even if he doesn't become mayor of New York,
because what else does he have going on. That's how
much kamal is spent every day, every hour, every hour, hour,
five hundred and eighty four thousand dollars an hour for
her one hundred and seven day campaign. I mean, I
don't even understand how you could spend that amount of money.
(32:08):
I mean, obviously a lot of television ads. We'll talk
about this a bit more, but I do think that
as the DNC, And one of the consequences is the
RNC has way more money right now raise than the
DNC because a lot of people feel cheated based on
the Kamala campaign and how much they had to spend
to try to get her across the finish line. We
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because I think it'll set the table for part of
our conversation in the third hour. Buck, you know a
little bit more about the New York City radio market
than I do. But Curtis Leewa has had a show
(34:25):
for a very long time on a CATS John Castidas.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
He owns this station.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
He has a Catsimatidas has called for Curtis Great New Yorker,
for Curtis to drop out of the race. This happened
on his station in New York City. Cut twenty two.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Everybody makes some mistakes. I've made mistakes. The sign of
a decent human being is when you're confronted to apologize.
And I'm waiting for the apologies of my former friends
and colleagues at WABC who said that I'm running a
lazy campaign, and then I'm selfish. That's why you will
(35:07):
never see me there again at WABC.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
I think he's been on the air there a very
long time on WABC, if memory serves.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Well, he wouldn't been able to stay on the air
while the campaign was going on, so he would have
had to withdraw I think for that purpose. But he
seems like he's angry at his radio colleagues for pointing
out the truth, which is he can't win. And Kats
and John Katsametidas went on Fox News and called directly
for him to drop out. I presume that he said
(35:38):
this privately and finally decided he needed to say it
publicly as well.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Well.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
I think that there are people and John Katz and
his whole crew over there, and also his family. They're
all very invested in the best possible New York and
I mean that personally and financially, the best possible New
York imaginable, and so under the circumstances, a Cuomo situation
(36:03):
is better than a Mamdani situation. And there's not going
to be a Sliwa situation is what they have decided
based on the political realities of New York City. But
there may be could be a Cuomo situation that is
more likely if Slea were to drop, and he's not
gonna drop, and so here we are, and people can
make of that what they will.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
It is a free country.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Curtis Leewa has every right to stay in if he
chooses to do so. But the people at WABC and
elsewhere and on this show, I have every right to
say that that's just hurting New York or hurting New
York's chances to not be a Kami Healthcape. This is
the way it goes right, It's it's got to be
a two way street. So he's allowed to make that case.
(36:45):
We'll try to have him on here. Well, we'll put
out that invite. I know he's done many of our
friends radio shows, so we'll have that discussion.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
But lookt the Mamdani situation is troubling. I'll put it that.
I wish I could say that this I'm gonna like
a lot of family in New York City.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Nah, my family lives in New York, So I am
very this is very near and dear to my heart.
I got a little nephew, he's just started school. I mean,
you know, this stuff matters on this on this side
of things.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
So we'll come back to it.
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