December 19, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show delivers a powerful mix of cultural critique, political insight, and holiday fun as Clay hosts the final live broadcast of the year. The hour opens with a reflection on the show’s growth since 2021, celebrating its expansion to over 550 stations nationwide and thanking listeners for their loyalty. From there, Clay pivots to a major business story: Nike’s stock collapse, which he argues is the inevitable result of the company’s cultural shift from celebrating athletic excellence to embracing woke activism. He traces Nike’s decline from its Michael Jordan era—built on meritocracy and performance—to its 2018 Colin Kaepernick campaign, which prioritized political messaging over sports achievement. Clay underscores that Nike stock has fallen from $85 a share in 2018 to $59 today, even as the broader market surged, framing this as a cautionary tale that “culture wins” and that abandoning core values for virtue signaling leads to failure.
Building on this theme, Clay explores the broader implications of cultural erosion, warning that internal decay—whether in corporations, families, or nations—poses a greater threat than external forces. He uses Nike as an example of how woke ideology undermines success and argues that the same dynamic is playing out in American politics and society. This segues into a discussion of conservative principles and truth-telling, highlighted by fiery remarks from Ben Shapiro at AmFest, where Shapiro condemned conspiracy theories and called out grifters within the movement, including former colleague Candace Owens, for spreading baseless claims about Charlie Kirk’s assassination. Clay praises Shapiro’s insistence on evidence and principle over populist pandering, warning that the conservative movement must guard against internal frauds who exploit grievance culture.
The hour also touches on Erica Kirk’s endorsement of JD Vance for 2028, signaling early momentum for the Vice President as the next GOP standard-bearer. Clay uses these moments to emphasize that conservatism’s foundation lies in personal responsibility and cultural strength, not victimhood or performative outrage. He argues that America’s greatest danger is not China or Russia but the internal dismantling of Western values through censorship, identity politics, and attacks on free speech—citing examples like the removal of a UK Christmas card for allegedly “invalidating trans experiences.”
To lighten the mood, Clay invites listeners to weigh in on the best Christmas movies, declaring Christmas Vacation the undisputed champion while sparking debates over classics like It’s a Wonderful Life, Elf, Die Hard, and even controversial picks like Love Actually. The segment blends humor with nostalgia, offering a festive close to a thought-provoking hour that underscores the show’s core message: culture shapes destiny, and defending truth is essential to preserving freedom.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in our number two final show of the
year for either Buck or myself, and Buck is already
on Christmas vacation. I will soon be joining my family
on Christmas vacation. The boys, the Travis Boys, are all
out of school and super excited as kids are to
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be out of school. I'll mention this again in the
third hour, but I wanted to make sure I didn't
forget to do it here. Thank you guys, from both
Buck and myself. We started this show, this ride with
you guys in twenty twenty one, so we've been with
you in twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three,
twenty twenty four, and now twenty twenty five, so that
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is parts of five years, and next year, when we
go into twenty twenty six, that will be six years.
And I know a lot of you out there are
thinking to yourself, there's no way that's true, because as
you age, the years move by super fast, and so
I'm kind of blown away by that too. But we
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have enjoyed every single moment. We hope that we have
helped to make the country a little bit better than
it otherwise would have been. And we are certainly honored
every single day to sit down in front of this
microphone that Russia Emba made famous and to help to
speak sanity into at all, too often an insane world.
So we thank you for this opportunity, this privilege, and
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thank you guys for letting us move into a sixth
calendar year with all of you starting next year. And
it's been another really good year for growth. I've mentioned
this before, but I think it's worth noting when we
came in in twenty twenty one, we had three hundred
and fifty stations nationwide. As we are finishing twenty twenty five,
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we now have over five hundred and fifty stations nationwide,
So we have grown by two hundred stations over the
course of the past four or five years. And that's
a credit to you, guys, because you're listening all over
the country in all fifty states, and certainly we love
all of you that are listening right now on the podcast.
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But you can imagine a lot of people when you
step into shoes that are this massive, say there's no
way on earth these two knuckleheads are going to last
anytime at all. And it's credit to you, guys that
not only have we lasted, we have thrived, and I
think it's quite clear that we love hanging out with
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you every single day for three hours. So thank you,
all right. Opposite of thriving, I tease this last hour,
and as I was reading and getting ready for the
show today, I couldn't help but go through my usual
review of the stock market to see how things are
moving there. You guys know, I love to update you
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as needed, sometimes more often than some of you care,
on what's going on in the stock market, going on
in the media landscape. And this morning, Nike stock is tanking.
And I know some of you probably have Nike stock,
so I'm not trying to add to your misery here
in the holiday season, but Nike stock has now dropped
below sixty dollars a share. I wrote seven years ago,
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in September of twenty eighteen, that it was a bad
idea to buy stock in Nike because Nike had moved
from a company that embraced the meritocracy. This was really
a large part the thesis of my book Republicans by
Sneakers Too. From a company that's goal was to speak
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to sports fans everywhere and sell them sneakers and sell
them gear. Michael Jordan was right. He's now admitted that
this was a quote. He was asked in the nineteen nineties,
why aren't you political, Michael, Why do you do not
speak out on so many different issues that confront the country.
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And his answer was Republicans by sneakers two. I love
that answer because sports is a unifying force and it
should be the case. And I really believe this, and
I've founded much of my career on it that when
you're in a stadium or an arena and your team wins,
you shouldn't be thinking about anything other than high fiving
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the person around you. And Jordan got that, and it's
why to this day, sorry for all the people in
Salt Lake. The most watched game in the history of
basketball was Game six, nineteen ninety eight NBA Finals when
Michael Jordan, yes, he pushed off Brian Russell a little bit,
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stepped back and hit a jumper to win the sixth
title for the Chicago Bulls. In eight years, over thirty
million people watched that game. It is the the most
watched game still in the history of basketball in America.
Never have more people watched a game. Lots of other
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sports have set new record highs. Super Bowl, for instance,
that we just watched many of us in February of
this year, was the most watched football game that's ever
aired in the history of the United States. So the
NFL has continued to set records. The NBA hasn't. Why
it's because Nike decided to go woke. I'm going to
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play an ad for you from back in twenty eighteen
in a moment. But think about when you grew up.
Nike epitomized athletic excellence, the meritocracy. If you remember, if
you grew up around my age, you will Bono's. Do
you remember the Bonos commercials that were so great? If
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you remember all of the Michael Jordan ads for Nike,
If you are around my agent, you remember how every
time a new Air Jordan sneaker came out, we all
couldn't wait to see them. We hoped that we might
be able to afford him. Heck, some of y'all are
out there right now and your sneaker heads to this
day because you grew up on Air Jordan's great stat
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for you. Even to this day, Michael Jordan's Air Jordan
brand out sells every current NBA player sneaker combined. Think
about how wild that is. That's how beloved Michael Jordan was.
When they released that documentary The Last Dance during COVID,
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when there were no sports going on, more people watched
the documentary about the nineteen ninety Chicago Bulls than watched
the actual NBA Finals with Lebron James in them that year.
People would rather watch a documentary about Michael Jordan than
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an actual game featuring Lebron James. Why why did all
this happen? Because deep down American DNA craves excellence. We
want to be the biggest, the best, the baddest ass
that has ever existed. That was Jordan. Now can it
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come with pratt falls? Yeah. Most people who are driven
to be the best at something, they also have a
few flaws. Elon Musk right now, I think is the
greatest American capitalist of all time. If you look at
what he's done with Tesla, if you look at what
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he's doing with SpaceX, if you look at what he's
doing with X and XAI, the Boring Company, all of
them are extraordinary successes, the likes of which, and I
don't think I'm exaggerating here, it's the greatest capitalist ever.
Susie Wilds talked about this in The Vanity Fair. But
he's also a bit of an odd duck. He's got
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a lot of kids by a lot of different women.
Fourteen kids, I think, by a lot of different women
right now. It's probably not always really easy to get
along with Steve Jobs back at Apple, really difficult to
get along with, you know, when you say, like Steve
Jobs did, my job is not to give people what
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they want. It's to give people what they aren't even
aware they want. Yet I've got to create that kind
of cocky and so if you're looking at that and
you're saying, yeah, and there's a downside to it. But
if excellence is the standard, Nike made its focus the meritocracy,
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the best man or the best woman. They wanted their
sneakers on you. They wanted to convince you that you
would run faster, jump higher, that you would in some
way emulate the successes of the people that they put
on the Nike brand. It was all about excellence, the meritocracy.
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Nike wanted the best man or the best woman, not
the best man pretending to be a woman, to win.
And then a record scratch moment happened in twenty eighteen.
I'm gonna play this ad for you. Suddenly, Nike decided,
instead of Kobe Bryant, instead of Michael Jordan, instead of
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the greatest athletes of their era representing the brand, they
were gonna pivot. They were gonna go woke. They gave
millions of dollars to Colin Kaepernick, and they said this
is the new Nike. And this aired seven years ago.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Listen, if people say your dreams are crazy, laugh at
what you think you can do. Goodn't stay that way,
because what non believers fail to understand is that calling
a dream crazy is not an insult, it's a compliment.
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Don't try to be the fastest runner in your school
or the fastest in the world. Be the fastest ever.
Don't picture yourself wearing Obj's jersey, picture OBJ wearing yours.
Don't settle for homecoming queen or linebacker.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Do both.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Lose one hundred and twenty pounds and become an iron
man after beating a brain tumor. Don't believe you have
to be like anybody to be somebody. If you're born
a refugee, don't let us stop you from playing soccer
for the national team at age sixteen. Don't become the
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best basketball player on the planet. Be bigger than basketball inters.
Believe in something, even if it means sacrificing everything.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
All right, stop it right there. Believe in something, even
if it means sacrificing everything. They tried to cloak their
message in the guise of Colin Kaepernick there, but people said,
wait a minute, Colin Kaepernick is making way more money
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as an advocate than he ever had as a quarterback.
He got multiple Netflix documentary deals, He got paid millions
of dollars by Nike. If Colin Kaepernick had been the
best quarterback in the NFL and he had decided to
take a knee to protest anything, do you know what
would have happened? He would have stayed employed. But when
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they started to sell the face of the brand, now
is Colin Kaepernick believe in something even if it means
sacrificing everything. Colin Kaepernick wasn't the best quarterback in the NFL.
I'm not sure he was the twenty fifth best quarterback
at the NFL at the time that he took a knee.
Michael Jordan, whatever you thought about him, heck Lebron, James Heck,
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Kobe Bryant. Whatever you thought about those guys, they were
the best of their era. The minute that Nike decided, Hey,
we're going to focus on an athlete for an advertising
campaign that has nothing to do with excellence on the
field and everything to do with a political perspective, they
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turned their back on Michael Jordan. Republicans by sneakers too,
and they basically extended a middle finger to half of
America and said, screw y'all. And that's being kind for
what they said, left wing politics or nothing. When that
ad ran Nike stock, I wrote about it at USA Today,
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I've linked it on my Twitter account. Nike stock was
eighty five dollars a share. Seven years later, stock market
is up about one hundred and fifty percent. It is
if you had a dollar in it now, you've got
nearly two fifty right all the rest of the market
has gone up substantially. Nike stock as I speak to
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you right now, is fifty nine dollars a share. You
would have lost if you had just seen that cultural
pivot like I did and said sell your Nike stock,
which I did, and everybody in the whole sports media
came after me and said, Klay Travis has no idea
what he's talking about. Seven years later, eighty five dollars
share price, Now it's fifty nine dollars. It's not just
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that the price has declined substantially, it's that the rest
of the market has gone up substantially. You've lost a
ton of money if you bought Nike stock and held
it because they went woke and burned down the entire
framework of the company. All of the culture that was
created with Michael Jordan was gone with Colin Kaepernick. And
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I think it's emblematic. Some of you can say, well,
why should I care about Nike? This is what happens.
Culture wins. Culture wins in everything. The culture that you
create in your family, in your company, in your city,
in your state, in your country ultimately dictates the result
that you're going to get. And if you allow this
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woke culture virus into your family, into your company, into
your city, into your state, into your country, the results
are going to be awful. Because the only way we
advance is by embracing the meritocracy. The best among us
should have the highest p possible results. When we start
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saying the athletes we should aspire to embody are people
who are speaking out about politics whatever they are, not
about the excellence of their actual performance. The culture is lost.
This is what I think about all the time now
that I'm getting to be an old guy. Culture. Culture, culture,
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The culture that you create in life dictates every element
of success individually and also in a larger context. It's
no surprise to me that the culture Nike created, which
turned away from excellence in the meritocracy of Michael Jordan
to the left wing activism of Colin Kaepernick, led ultimately
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to the cratering of the company. If you go woke,
everything else will be a disastrous rubble, doesn't matter what
it is. Hope. That's a lesson that we're starting to learn,
but it's one that a lot of us knew a
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Speaker 1 (17:11):
Welcome back Ed Clay Travis buck Sexton show. A lot
of you reacting to my Nike destroying its brand culture
take but I do think and I'll build on this
a little bit more when we come back. How much
time do you spend thinking about the culture that you're
creating a lot of times we don't because we're so
focused on the external noise. What is somebody gonna try
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to do to me? What is somebody gonna try to
do to my family? And that's great to protect yourself
from external forces. What is somebody gonna do to my company?
But I don't think people think enough about what we
do to destroy often the things that we love internally
based on the choices that we make, Nike is actually
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shooter is dead. He has shot himself and they are
now saying that he also likely as we started off
the show discussing killed the MIT professor as well, and
we were talking about culture as it pertains to Nike
and how the culture of whatever you create, your family,
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your own self, if you don't have a big family,
your company, your state, your city, your country, culture ultimately
dictates everything. If you make good choices, then you're going
over time to end up in a better place than
if you make bad choices. And if you question that,
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I make a lot of bad choices in my golf game,
Golf as a metaphor for life is not a bad
symbol for those of you out there that golf at all.
How often do you find yourself out of the fairly
very often? For me? How often do you find yourself
with a bad lie? Very often? And how often do
you try to do a hero shot to put yourself
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back where you should have been? If you had just
stayed in the fair way in the first place a
ton of times. If you ever find yourself in golf
thinking I'm going to cover my face right after this shot,
which I have found myself doing a lot of times,
you are attempting a hero shot. If you are playing
with a friend and he's in the golf cart and
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he leans over in preparation for your shot to ensure
that you don't beat him in the back of the
head and kill him, you are attempting a hero shot.
If you have ever started to take a golf swing
and thought this shot might well ricochet and take out
my teeth or break my nose, it's probably something you
shouldn't do. Speaking of which you know, I've done a
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bunch of these charity pro ams. Now jaw rule the rapper.
Did you guys see the video of him his tea
shot where he hit at such an improbable angle that
the person who was filming it, who was basically perpendicular
to him, it should be very difficult to hit a
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golf shot that way. You should be safe in that
tea box. Now he hit him.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
If you haven't seen that video, that is an example
of a bad golf shot that is leading the culture. Amok.
But I do think it's important and instructive. As we
finished twenty five to think about that quite a lot.
And I think about it in the context of a
quote that I heard back in the past that some
of you may have heard before. A college football coach
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told me, we recruit our own problems. And I just
thought to myself, that is such a perfect way of
describing much of what goes on in life. We recruit
our own problems. Most of the time we worry about
it external. Oh what's that person going to do to me?
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Oh what's that company going to do to me? Most
destruction is internal, not external. And do we recruit our
own problems? The coach was talking about the culture you create.
The culture you create dictates success. If you create a
culture that blames everybody else this woke mind virus. If
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you create a culture that says, oh, actually, this company, well,
it's it's taking advantage of people, it's pillaging them. If
you create a culture of futility and blame, you're going
to have a culture that collapses. And I was thinking
about that right now because on the right wing in
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this country, Well, let me first give you a little
bit of advice, My advice as we finish off twenty
twenty five. Clip it, share it with your kids, Graduate
high school, get married, job. If you do those three things,
your poverty rate in America is basically zero. Graduate high school.
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Everybody can do it, no matter how rich your mom
or dad are, no matter where you're going to school.
Everybody can graduate high school. Everybody can eventually get married,
and everybody can eventually have kids. After those two things
you do that, you have a poverty rate basically of zero.
But I wanted to play a cut. Ben Shapiro yesterday
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was speaking out at Amfest. Erica Kirk Big News. I
would say, the wife of Charlie Kirk endorsed JD Vance.
But Ben Shapiro was speaking about truth and trying to
be honest with audience and what the impact of that
can be in a significant way. And I thought he
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did a really good job of calling out things that
are untrue and people who are spreading untruths sometimes people
who are spreading on truths and being actually rewarded for them.
And I am scrolling through right now. Let's start with
Erica Kirk because I thought Erica was good in what
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she said, this is cut thirteen.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
I've said it before and I'll say it again. The
mission didn't end with Charlie's life. It's being lived out
through each and every one of you in your own way. Again,
it doesn't matter, your age, doesn't matter, your race, doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Your background.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Amfest is not about echo chambers. It's very important to
know that because it's about sharpening one another. It's about
digging deeper into ideas instead of retreating into slogans, and
it's about remembering that freedom requires responsibility and truth requires courage.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Okay, that's well said, and certainly on this show we
like to say the First Amendment is alive and well.
I've always believed that the marketplace of ideas, sometimes you're
going to get a bloody nose, sometimes you're going to
get a black eye. People are going to come after
things that you say and they may not agree, and
that's okay. And the marketplace of ideas requires that the
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best ideas win. But also it requires that there be
a marketplace a variety of opinions, so that you're not
just constantly the preacher speaking to the choir. You have
to convert people to your way of thinking. You have
to evangelize for the truth and for the First Amendment.
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So I thought Ben Shapiro here going after one of
his former employees, Candice Owens, over lies that she has
spread about who killed Charlie Kirk. Pretty strong elbows punches,
sometimes scraps get nasty. This has cut fourteen.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Because we have a duty to truth, we also have
a duty to provide you with evidence of the claims
that we make. Emotive accusations, conspiracy theories, at just asking questions.
That's lazy and stupid and misleading. None of them are
a substitute for truth. None of them are a substitute
for evidence. So when Candies Owen says, I don't know no,
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but I know that is retarded, and we are all
more retarded for having heard.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Its going after her aggressively. And then I thought Ben again,
I watched his address yesterday at Amfest. I thought he
did a good job. Here's a little bit more of that. Look,
you have to speak not in the name of just
what people respond to, but also in the name of principle,
And if you have to balance between the two, it's
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better to stand on principle than all audience. I thought
this was really well said Cut fifteen.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
The conservative movement is in serious danger. It is in
danger not just from a left that all too frequently
excuses everything up to and including murder. The conservative movement
is also in danger from Charlatan's who claim to speak
in the name of principle but actually traffic in conspiracism
and dishonesty, who offer nothing but bile and despair, who
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seek to undermine fundamental principles of conservatism by championing enervation
and grievance.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
These people are.
Speaker 5 (27:30):
Frauds, and they are grifters, and they do not deserve
your time, and they are something worse than that, a
danger to the only movement capable of stopping the left
from wrecking the country wholesale.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
I thought all of that was really well said. And
again it goes to threats. It's very easy to focus
on external threats. It makes us feel better if we
prepare for things that are out there, people who can
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do things to us. We want to protect our family,
we want to protect our communities. But most of the time,
most almost always of the time, failure is not external.
It's internal. And that's tougher to realize because we spend
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a lot of time trying to protect those that we
love from others. But often the failure that we create
is internal because we don't do a good enough job
taking care of the culture that we're creating. I don't
hear a lot of people talking about that. To me,
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the foundation of conservatism is first individual responsibility. If you
can't in some way control you yourself and put yourself
in a position to make things better for your family,
your state, for your country, then how in the world
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can you seek to police others. The first thing you
have to get right is internal, and that's hard right
because that requires self analysis. It requires frankly hard work,
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and most people aren't willing to do that because it's
easier to focus on external threats than it is to
build a strong culture internally. Now, Ben Shapiro's right, people
on the left have awful ideas. They will kill us
for the ideas that we even are willing to express.
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The left is attacking Western civilization. But what I think
we are learning as a country is it's actually internal.
We don't look. I'm concerned about what China does, I'm
concerned about what Russia does. I'm concerned about what people
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in other countries might do to us. We have a
military to protect our nation from foreign invaders, but I'm
more concerned about what we're doing inside the country to freedom,
to the marketplace of ideas. Look at what's going on
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in Europe right now. They just sent it somebody to
eighteen months in prison for saying that I'm basically making
criticisms on social media about immigration. I was just scrolling
through this morning getting ready for the show, and I
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saw that they had pulled a card off of the
marketplace in England. It was a holiday card with the
Grinch on it. This is according to the Daily Mail.
The headline that the card said this Christmas, I'm identifying
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as a Grinch, had a picture of the Grinch. It
was pulled off shelves because quote, it invalidated the lived
experiences of trans people. What are we doing? Internal destruction
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of Western civilization is clearly the goal, and it's not
being foisted upon us externally. It's a cultural battle that
is occurring inside of this country every day, and I
think Nike is emblematic of that. I think it's important
for you guys to see. I think, certainly what Ben
Shapiro is pointing to is evidence of that as well.
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We have to internally battle with strength in order to
create an external culture that is worthy of preservation. Think
about it a little bit as we roll into the
holiday season, and I don't want to be entirely serious
on the final show of the year, So we're also
going to play some of your funny takes on the
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Christmas holiday season movies, which I asked for. You guys
have loaded us up also eight hundred and two A
two two eight A two. We'll take some of your
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Heavyweight Champion. All of you disagree with me, are wrong.
It is Christmas Vacation. I want you, at this point
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You can say, Clay, You're brilliant, You're one hundred percent right.
I don't know how anyone could disagree with your reasoned
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to attack the Christmas movies that you believe are overrated,
that some of your friends and family might have the temerity,
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the gall the audacity to argue is actually the best
Christmas movie. It is Christmas Vacation. Tons of you are
weighing in, and we will play some of these and
we will have fun as we roll through the final
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try to get through all of them. I'm right now
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Diehard and First Blood is a.
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Great action for Christmas movies, great ones, Funny one is
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So yeah, I think he needs to be some categories.
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Christmas Shoes is a very sad but goodlin too.
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We will play all of these. I promise that we
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Welcome back in our number two final show of the
year for either Buck or myself, and Buck is already
on Christmas vacation. I will soon be joining my family
on Christmas vacation. The boys, the Travis Boys, are all
out of school and super excited as kids are to
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be out of school. I'll mention this again in the
third hour, but I wanted to make sure I didn't
forget to do it here. Thank you guys, from both
Buck and myself. We started this show, this ride with
you guys in twenty twenty one, so we've been with
you in twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three,
twenty twenty four, and now twenty twenty five, so that
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is parts of five years, and next year, when we
go into twenty twenty six, that will be six years.
And I know a lot of you out there are
thinking to yourself, there's no way that's true, because as
you age, the years move by super fast, and so
I'm kind of blown away by that too. But we
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have enjoyed every single moment. We hope that we have
helped to make the country a little bit better than
it otherwise would have been. And we are certainly honored
every single day to sit down in front of this
microphone that Russia Emba made famous and to help to
speak sanity into at all, too often an insane world.
So we thank you for this opportunity, this privilege, and
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thank you guys for letting us move into a sixth
calendar year with all of you starting next year. And
it's been another really good year for growth. I've mentioned
this before, but I think it's worth noting when we
came in in twenty twenty one, we had three hundred
and fifty stations nationwide. As we are finishing twenty twenty five,
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we now have over five hundred and fifty stations nationwide,
So we have grown by two hundred stations over the
course of the past four or five years. And that's
a credit to you, guys, because you're listening all over
the country in all fifty states, and certainly we love
all of you that are listening right now on the podcast.
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But you can imagine a lot of people when you
step into shoes that are this massive, say there's no
way on earth these two knuckleheads are going to last
anytime at all. And it's credit to you, guys that
not only have we lasted, we have thrived, and I
think it's quite clear that we love hanging out with
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you every single day for three hours. So thank you,
all right. Opposite of thriving, I tease this last hour,
and as I was reading and getting ready for the
show today, I couldn't help but go through my usual
review of the stock market to see how things are
moving there. You guys know, I love to update you
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as needed, sometimes more often than some of you care,
on what's going on in the stock market, going on
in the media landscape. And this morning, Nike stock is tanking.
And I know some of you probably have Nike stock,
so I'm not trying to add to your misery here
in the holiday season, but Nike stock has now dropped
below sixty dollars a share. I wrote seven years ago,
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in September of twenty eighteen, that it was a bad
idea to buy stock in Nike because Nike had moved
from a company that embraced the meritocracy. This was really
a large part the thesis of my book Republicans by
Sneakers Too. From a company that's goal was to speak
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to sports fans everywhere and sell them sneakers and sell
them gear. Michael Jordan was right. He's now admitted that
this was a quote. He was asked in the nineteen nineties,
why aren't you political, Michael, Why do you do not
speak out on so many different issues that confront the country.
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And his answer was Republicans by sneakers two. I love
that answer because sports is a unifying force and it
should be the case. And I really believe this, and
I've founded much of my career on it that when
you're in a stadium or an arena and your team wins,
you shouldn't be thinking about anything other than high fiving
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the person around you. And Jordan got that, and it's
why to this day, sorry for all the people in
Salt Lake. The most watched game in the history of
basketball was Game six, nineteen ninety eight NBA Finals when
Michael Jordan, yes, he pushed off Brian Russell a little bit,
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stepped back and hit a jumper to win the sixth
title for the Chicago Bulls. In eight years, over thirty
million people watched that game. It is the the most
watched game still in the history of basketball in America.
Never have more people watched a game. Lots of other
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sports have set new record highs. Super Bowl, for instance,
that we just watched many of us in February of
this year, was the most watched football game that's ever
aired in the history of the United States. So the
NFL has continued to set records. The NBA hasn't. Why
it's because Nike decided to go woke. I'm going to
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play an ad for you from back in twenty eighteen
in a moment. But think about when you grew up.
Nike epitomized athletic excellence, the meritocracy. If you remember, if
you grew up around my age, you will Bono's. Do
you remember the Bonos commercials that were so great? If
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you remember all of the Michael Jordan ads for Nike,
If you are around my agent, you remember how every
time a new Air Jordan sneaker came out, we all
couldn't wait to see them. We hoped that we might
be able to afford him. Heck, some of y'all are
out there right now and your sneaker heads to this
day because you grew up on Air Jordan's great stat
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for you. Even to this day, Michael Jordan's Air Jordan
brand out sells every current NBA player sneaker combined. Think
about how wild that is. That's how beloved Michael Jordan was.
When they released that documentary The Last Dance during COVID,
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when there were no sports going on, more people watched
the documentary about the nineteen ninety Chicago Bulls than watched
the actual NBA Finals with Lebron James in them that year.
People would rather watch a documentary about Michael Jordan than
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an actual game featuring Lebron James. Why why did all
this happen? Because deep down American DNA craves excellence. We
want to be the biggest, the best, the baddest ass
that has ever existed. That was Jordan. Now can it
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come with pratt falls? Yeah. Most people who are driven
to be the best at something, they also have a
few flaws. Elon Musk right now, I think is the
greatest American capitalist of all time. If you look at
what he's done with Tesla, if you look at what
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he's doing with SpaceX, if you look at what he's
doing with X and XAI, the Boring Company, all of
them are extraordinary successes, the likes of which, and I
don't think I'm exaggerating here, it's the greatest capitalist ever.
Susie Wilds talked about this in The Vanity Fair. But
he's also a bit of an odd duck. He's got
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a lot of kids by a lot of different women.
Fourteen kids, I think, by a lot of different women
right now. It's probably not always really easy to get
along with Steve Jobs back at Apple, really difficult to
get along with, you know, when you say, like Steve
Jobs did, my job is not to give people what
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they want. It's to give people what they aren't even
aware they want. Yet I've got to create that kind
of cocky and so if you're looking at that and
you're saying, yeah, and there's a downside to it. But
if excellence is the standard, Nike made its focus the meritocracy,
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the best man or the best woman. They wanted their
sneakers on you. They wanted to convince you that you
would run faster, jump higher, that you would in some
way emulate the successes of the people that they put
on the Nike brand. It was all about excellence, the meritocracy.
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Nike wanted the best man or the best woman, not
the best man pretending to be a woman, to win.
And then a record scratch moment happened in twenty eighteen.
I'm gonna play this ad for you. Suddenly, Nike decided,
instead of Kobe Bryant, instead of Michael Jordan, instead of
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the greatest athletes of their era representing the brand, they
were gonna pivot. They were gonna go woke. They gave
millions of dollars to Colin Kaepernick, and they said this
is the new Nike. And this aired seven years ago.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Listen, if people say your dreams are crazy, laugh at
what you think you can do. Goodn't stay that way,
because what non believers fail to understand is that calling
a dream crazy is not an insult, it's a compliment.
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Don't try to be the fastest runner in your school
or the fastest in the world. Be the fastest ever.
Don't picture yourself wearing Obj's jersey, picture OBJ wearing yours.
Don't settle for homecoming queen or linebacker.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Do both.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Lose one hundred and twenty pounds and become an iron
man after beating a brain tumor. Don't believe you have
to be like anybody to be somebody. If you're born
a refugee, don't let us stop you from playing soccer
for the national team at age sixteen. Don't become the
(11:02):
best basketball player on the planet. Be bigger than basketball inters.
Believe in something, even if it means sacrificing everything.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
All right, stop it right there. Believe in something, even
if it means sacrificing everything. They tried to cloak their
message in the guise of Colin Kaepernick there, but people said,
wait a minute, Colin Kaepernick is making way more money
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as an advocate than he ever had as a quarterback.
He got multiple Netflix documentary deals, He got paid millions
of dollars by Nike. If Colin Kaepernick had been the
best quarterback in the NFL and he had decided to
take a knee to protest anything, do you know what
would have happened? He would have stayed employed. But when
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they started to sell the face of the brand, now
is Colin Kaepernick believe in something even if it means
sacrificing everything. Colin Kaepernick wasn't the best quarterback in the NFL.
I'm not sure he was the twenty fifth best quarterback
at the NFL at the time that he took a knee.
Michael Jordan, whatever you thought about him, heck Lebron, James Heck,
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Kobe Bryant. Whatever you thought about those guys, they were
the best of their era. The minute that Nike decided, Hey,
we're going to focus on an athlete for an advertising
campaign that has nothing to do with excellence on the
field and everything to do with a political perspective, they
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turned their back on Michael Jordan. Republicans by sneakers too,
and they basically extended a middle finger to half of
America and said, screw y'all. And that's being kind for
what they said, left wing politics or nothing. When that
ad ran Nike stock, I wrote about it at USA Today,
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I've linked it on my Twitter account. Nike stock was
eighty five dollars a share. Seven years later, stock market
is up about one hundred and fifty percent. It is
if you had a dollar in it now, you've got
nearly two fifty right all the rest of the market
has gone up substantially. Nike stock as I speak to
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you right now, is fifty nine dollars a share. You
would have lost if you had just seen that cultural
pivot like I did and said sell your Nike stock,
which I did, and everybody in the whole sports media
came after me and said, Klay Travis has no idea
what he's talking about. Seven years later, eighty five dollars
share price, Now it's fifty nine dollars. It's not just
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that the price has declined substantially, it's that the rest
of the market has gone up substantially. You've lost a
ton of money if you bought Nike stock and held
it because they went woke and burned down the entire
framework of the company. All of the culture that was
created with Michael Jordan was gone with Colin Kaepernick. And
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I think it's emblematic. Some of you can say, well,
why should I care about Nike? This is what happens.
Culture wins. Culture wins in everything. The culture that you
create in your family, in your company, in your city,
in your state, in your country ultimately dictates the result
that you're going to get. And if you allow this
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woke culture virus into your family, into your company, into
your city, into your state, into your country, the results
are going to be awful. Because the only way we
advance is by embracing the meritocracy. The best among us
should have the highest p possible results. When we start
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saying the athletes we should aspire to embody are people
who are speaking out about politics whatever they are, not
about the excellence of their actual performance. The culture is lost.
This is what I think about all the time now
that I'm getting to be an old guy. Culture. Culture, culture,
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The culture that you create in life dictates every element
of success individually and also in a larger context. It's
no surprise to me that the culture Nike created, which
turned away from excellence in the meritocracy of Michael Jordan
to the left wing activism of Colin Kaepernick, led ultimately
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to the cratering of the company. If you go woke,
everything else will be a disastrous rubble, doesn't matter what
it is. Hope. That's a lesson that we're starting to learn,
but it's one that a lot of us knew a
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Welcome back Ed Clay Travis buck Sexton show. A lot
of you reacting to my Nike destroying its brand culture
take but I do think and I'll build on this
a little bit more when we come back. How much
time do you spend thinking about the culture that you're
creating a lot of times we don't because we're so
focused on the external noise. What is somebody gonna try
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to do to me? What is somebody gonna try to
do to my family? And that's great to protect yourself
from external forces. What is somebody gonna do to my company?
But I don't think people think enough about what we
do to destroy often the things that we love internally
based on the choices that we make, Nike is actually
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shooter is dead. He has shot himself and they are
now saying that he also likely as we started off
the show discussing killed the MIT professor as well, and
we were talking about culture as it pertains to Nike
and how the culture of whatever you create, your family,
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your own self, if you don't have a big family,
your company, your state, your city, your country, culture ultimately
dictates everything. If you make good choices, then you're going
over time to end up in a better place than
if you make bad choices. And if you question that,
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I make a lot of bad choices in my golf game,
Golf as a metaphor for life is not a bad
symbol for those of you out there that golf at all.
How often do you find yourself out of the fairly
very often? For me? How often do you find yourself
with a bad lie? Very often? And how often do
you try to do a hero shot to put yourself
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back where you should have been? If you had just
stayed in the fair way in the first place a
ton of times. If you ever find yourself in golf
thinking I'm going to cover my face right after this shot,
which I have found myself doing a lot of times,
you are attempting a hero shot. If you are playing
with a friend and he's in the golf cart and
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he leans over in preparation for your shot to ensure
that you don't beat him in the back of the
head and kill him, you are attempting a hero shot.
If you have ever started to take a golf swing
and thought this shot might well ricochet and take out
my teeth or break my nose, it's probably something you
shouldn't do. Speaking of which you know, I've done a
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bunch of these charity pro ams. Now jaw rule the rapper.
Did you guys see the video of him his tea
shot where he hit at such an improbable angle that
the person who was filming it, who was basically perpendicular
to him, it should be very difficult to hit a
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golf shot that way. You should be safe in that
tea box. Now he hit him.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
If you haven't seen that video, that is an example
of a bad golf shot that is leading the culture. Amok.
But I do think it's important and instructive. As we
finished twenty five to think about that quite a lot.
And I think about it in the context of a
quote that I heard back in the past that some
of you may have heard before. A college football coach
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told me, we recruit our own problems. And I just
thought to myself, that is such a perfect way of
describing much of what goes on in life. We recruit
our own problems. Most of the time we worry about
it external. Oh what's that person going to do to me?
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Oh what's that company going to do to me? Most
destruction is internal, not external. And do we recruit our
own problems? The coach was talking about the culture you create.
The culture you create dictates success. If you create a
culture that blames everybody else this woke mind virus. If
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you create a culture that says, oh, actually, this company, well,
it's it's taking advantage of people, it's pillaging them. If
you create a culture of futility and blame, you're going
to have a culture that collapses. And I was thinking
about that right now because on the right wing in
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this country, Well, let me first give you a little
bit of advice, My advice as we finish off twenty
twenty five. Clip it, share it with your kids, Graduate
high school, get married, job. If you do those three things,
your poverty rate in America is basically zero. Graduate high school.
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Everybody can do it, no matter how rich your mom
or dad are, no matter where you're going to school.
Everybody can graduate high school. Everybody can eventually get married,
and everybody can eventually have kids. After those two things
you do that, you have a poverty rate basically of zero.
But I wanted to play a cut. Ben Shapiro yesterday
(23:36):
was speaking out at Amfest. Erica Kirk Big News. I
would say, the wife of Charlie Kirk endorsed JD Vance.
But Ben Shapiro was speaking about truth and trying to
be honest with audience and what the impact of that
can be in a significant way. And I thought he
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did a really good job of calling out things that
are untrue and people who are spreading untruths sometimes people
who are spreading on truths and being actually rewarded for them.
And I am scrolling through right now. Let's start with
Erica Kirk because I thought Erica was good in what
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she said, this is cut thirteen.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
I've said it before and I'll say it again. The
mission didn't end with Charlie's life. It's being lived out
through each and every one of you in your own way. Again,
it doesn't matter, your age, doesn't matter, your race, doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Your background.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Amfest is not about echo chambers. It's very important to
know that because it's about sharpening one another. It's about
digging deeper into ideas instead of retreating into slogans, and
it's about remembering that freedom requires responsibility and truth requires courage.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Okay, that's well said, and certainly on this show we
like to say the First Amendment is alive and well.
I've always believed that the marketplace of ideas, sometimes you're
going to get a bloody nose, sometimes you're going to
get a black eye. People are going to come after
things that you say and they may not agree, and
that's okay. And the marketplace of ideas requires that the
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best ideas win. But also it requires that there be
a marketplace a variety of opinions, so that you're not
just constantly the preacher speaking to the choir. You have
to convert people to your way of thinking. You have
to evangelize for the truth and for the First Amendment.
(25:48):
So I thought Ben Shapiro here going after one of
his former employees, Candice Owens, over lies that she has
spread about who killed Charlie Kirk. Pretty strong elbows punches,
sometimes scraps get nasty. This has cut fourteen.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Because we have a duty to truth, we also have
a duty to provide you with evidence of the claims
that we make. Emotive accusations, conspiracy theories, at just asking questions.
That's lazy and stupid and misleading. None of them are
a substitute for truth. None of them are a substitute
for evidence. So when Candies Owen says, I don't know no,
(26:30):
but I know that is retarded, and we are all
more retarded for having heard.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Its going after her aggressively. And then I thought Ben again,
I watched his address yesterday at Amfest. I thought he
did a good job. Here's a little bit more of that. Look,
you have to speak not in the name of just
what people respond to, but also in the name of principle,
And if you have to balance between the two, it's
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better to stand on principle than all audience. I thought
this was really well said Cut fifteen.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
The conservative movement is in serious danger. It is in
danger not just from a left that all too frequently
excuses everything up to and including murder. The conservative movement
is also in danger from Charlatan's who claim to speak
in the name of principle but actually traffic in conspiracism
and dishonesty, who offer nothing but bile and despair, who
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seek to undermine fundamental principles of conservatism by championing enervation
and grievance.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
These people are.
Speaker 5 (27:30):
Frauds, and they are grifters, and they do not deserve
your time, and they are something worse than that, a
danger to the only movement capable of stopping the left
from wrecking the country wholesale.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
I thought all of that was really well said. And
again it goes to threats. It's very easy to focus
on external threats. It makes us feel better if we
prepare for things that are out there, people who can
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do things to us. We want to protect our family,
we want to protect our communities. But most of the time,
most almost always of the time, failure is not external.
It's internal. And that's tougher to realize because we spend
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a lot of time trying to protect those that we
love from others. But often the failure that we create
is internal because we don't do a good enough job
taking care of the culture that we're creating. I don't
hear a lot of people talking about that. To me,
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the foundation of conservatism is first individual responsibility. If you
can't in some way control you yourself and put yourself
in a position to make things better for your family,
your state, for your country, then how in the world
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can you seek to police others. The first thing you
have to get right is internal, and that's hard right
because that requires self analysis. It requires frankly hard work,
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and most people aren't willing to do that because it's
easier to focus on external threats than it is to
build a strong culture internally. Now, Ben Shapiro's right, people
on the left have awful ideas. They will kill us
for the ideas that we even are willing to express.
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The left is attacking Western civilization. But what I think
we are learning as a country is it's actually internal.
We don't look. I'm concerned about what China does, I'm
concerned about what Russia does. I'm concerned about what people
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in other countries might do to us. We have a
military to protect our nation from foreign invaders, but I'm
more concerned about what we're doing inside the country to freedom,
to the marketplace of ideas. Look at what's going on
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in Europe right now. They just sent it somebody to
eighteen months in prison for saying that I'm basically making
criticisms on social media about immigration. I was just scrolling
through this morning getting ready for the show, and I
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saw that they had pulled a card off of the
marketplace in England. It was a holiday card with the
Grinch on it. This is according to the Daily Mail.
The headline that the card said this Christmas, I'm identifying
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as a Grinch, had a picture of the Grinch. It
was pulled off shelves because quote, it invalidated the lived
experiences of trans people. What are we doing? Internal destruction
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of Western civilization is clearly the goal, and it's not
being foisted upon us externally. It's a cultural battle that
is occurring inside of this country every day, and I
think Nike is emblematic of that. I think it's important
for you guys to see. I think, certainly what Ben
Shapiro is pointing to is evidence of that as well.
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We have to internally battle with strength in order to
create an external culture that is worthy of preservation. Think
about it a little bit as we roll into the
holiday season, and I don't want to be entirely serious
on the final show of the year, So we're also
going to play some of your funny takes on the
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Christmas holiday season movies, which I asked for. You guys
have loaded us up also eight hundred and two A
two two eight A two. We'll take some of your
calls in the third hour, and we're going to be
joined at the top of the next hour by Oklahoma
Senator Mark Wayne Mullen. All of that coming your way.
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All right, I'm giving you tons of different opinions across
the cultural sphere everything you could possibly imagine. Now you're
really gonna get mad at me because the best Christmas
movie Beyond a Shadow of a Doubt. After much contemplation
and as I continue to age, is Christmas Vacation with
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Chevy Chase. It is the best, the goat, undisputed Christmas
Heavyweight Champion. All of you disagree with me, are wrong.
It is Christmas Vacation. I want you, at this point
in time to pick up your phones and go in. Ihearten.
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You can say, Clay, You're brilliant, You're one hundred percent right.
I don't know how anyone could disagree with your reasoned
analysis of Christmas movie. But I would also like you
to attack the Christmas movies that you believe are overrated,
that some of your friends and family might have the temerity,
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the gall the audacity to argue is actually the best
Christmas movie. It is Christmas Vacation. Tons of you are
weighing in, and we will play some of these and
we will have fun as we roll through the final
show from Buck or myself of the year, and we
have a ton of talkbacks here and I'm going to
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try to get through all of them. I'm right now
scrolling and eventually I'm going to have those talkbacks in
front of me and I'm going to make sure that
we hit them, and we will just start with AA. Well,
let's go to bb BB dive in Mike. Yes, I agree.
Speaker 6 (35:59):
Break it down categories. It's a wonderful life and Christmas
Story is a great, great, great classic.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Diehard and First Blood is a.
Speaker 6 (36:09):
Great action for Christmas movies, great ones, Funny one is
like Christmas vacation obviously, and health and great.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
So yeah, I think he needs to be some categories.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
Christmas Shoes is a very sad but goodlin too.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
We will play all of these. I promise that we
will get them in the third hour. Up next, our buddy,
Senator Mark Wayne Mullen of Oklahoma. He's at the big
game between Alabama and Oklahoma. We'll talk about everything with him.
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