July 31, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show delivers a dynamic and in-depth discussion on the booming U.S. economy under President Donald Trump, the implications of trade policy, and the political fallout from past and present controversies. The hosts analyze the latest Q2 GDP numbers, highlighting stronger-than-expected economic growth, surging consumer spending, increased business investment, and rising domestic manufacturing. They credit Trump’s economic strategy, including trade negotiations with the EU, UK, Japan, and potentially China, as key drivers of this momentum.
The hour also explores the impact of tariffs, with Clay and Buck defending them as a strategic tool that hasn’t burdened American consumers as critics predicted. They argue that Trump views the U.S. economy as a “premium product,” deserving of premium trade terms, much like his real estate philosophy.
The conversation shifts to New York City politics, where the hosts critique mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani for his past support of defunding the police and his proposal for city-run grocery stores. They warn that his policies could lead to economic and public safety disasters, drawing comparisons to failed socialist models. The segment includes a broader critique of progressive governance and its effects on urban housing, crime, and affordability.
Clay and Buck also revisit Kamala Harris’s political trajectory, including her decision not to run for California governor and her past controversial statements. They play a montage of her public speaking moments, critiquing her authenticity and political strategy.
The hour concludes with a cultural commentary on media narratives, masculinity, and the political divide among younger male voters, referencing recent controversies involving actress Sydney Sweeney and The Atlantic’s take on cultural preferences. The hosts preview upcoming interviews with Dr. Mehmet Oz and FTC Chair Melissa Holyoak, teasing insights into Trump’s health and regulatory agenda.
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Second hour play and Buck kicks off.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Now let's talk a little bit about the economy, shall we.
We'll also get into some of the updates on Russia
collusion transparency. A lot of people I'm seeing, at least online,
want consequences for the conspirators in that we discuss whether
that is likely to happen or not. But we should
certainly stay up to speed with all of the revelations
(00:26):
coming out from Director of National Intelligence Tulsey Gabbard. But
first up on the economy, and on this I've said
it all along, Clay, and I firmly believe it that.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Trump is almost a.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
It's an unfair situation for him because I think broadly speaking,
expectations for the economy under Trump are generally high, so
he doesn't get the credit that he would if he
were a different president with what we're seeing, especially given
some of the moves he's made, like on trade, because
(01:02):
everyone goes, yeah, of course Trump, the economy, economy is
going to be great, like this is just I think
that we are almost almost lacking a little gratitude at
this point for all of the things that Trump is
doing that are helping the economy go. And he spoke
about the Q two GDP numbers, the second quarter gross
(01:22):
domestic product. This has cut eight. Here he is laying
out what's going on play it.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
In the second quarter, we smear short expectations. They thought
it would be maybe a little bit less than two,
and it was three, a little bit more than three.
Consumer spending is up, business investment is way up, domestic
manufacturing is way up, real disposable family income is up,
and personal savings are up. Other than that, we're not
(01:50):
doing so great. We have the hottest country. And I'll
tell you it said, it's a great. We're having a
lot of fun with it.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
You know, Clay, It's going very well, I would say,
even exceeding high expectations at this point, this early on,
basically six months into his presidency, and he's saying not
only that, not only is GDP higher, this has cut nine,
but on the trade deals, look at all this money,
hundreds of billions's flown into the country.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Play nine today.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
You see a GDP was much higher than anticipated. And
it's Scott good job, and Scott Besson's been working. Just
got back from a little excursion and a meeting with
China in Europe, and that went well. We've done very
well with the EU deal. It's a very big deal.
(02:44):
I guess they say the biggest trade deal ever made
by far, probably is just completed Japan and many other countries,
and hundreds of billions of dollars is flowing into our country.
We've never seen anything even close. And that's not me
saying it, that's everybody's saying it.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
He's right, Clay, it's money that wouldn't be in the treasury,
hundreds of billions of dollars. That matters if we can
sustain three plus percent growth, and I think we can.
I think the many of you out there are way
smarter at this than I am. But I think the
business expensing being accelerated is going to lead also, with
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a lot of certainty now on tariffs and pricing and
everything else.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I think it's going to lead to a.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Massive investment in in and from American business, and that
is going to accelerate in the third quarter. And then
if we can get those rates finally coming back down,
if we can get your own Powell to agree to
come down in September. I don't think we talk enough
about the fact that your own power will cut interest
(03:54):
rates for Democrats. I believe right before the election, you know,
everybody just kind of fades and doesn't think about that
a great deal. The guy cut interest rates twice right
before the election to try to juice and make people think, oh,
the inflation battle is over. He cut interest rates when
(04:15):
inflation was still far higher. This guy's been wrong on everything,
and I think he's late now. And Trump gets and
understands inflation and interest rates and the interplay there and
growth rates and how all of that becomes the core
of a natural economy. I think if we start to
get those interest rate cuts in conjunction with everything else,
(04:39):
I think as we enter twenty twenty six, this economy
is going to truly be firing on all cylinders.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
And I don't even know.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
I think you're starting to see this from the left
and from the Democrat side. They are focused on things
that are not paramount. And I know people out there
are still fired up about Epstein, but understand that Democrats
were in power for four years and did nothing about Epstein.
When they attacked Trump on Epstein, it's because they can't
(05:09):
go after him on the economy because it's starting to
fire on all cylinders. Can't go after him on the border,
and when they do go after him on deportations, his
base actually supports that can't go after him on crime.
I really, I mean, Trump is delivering on a level
that I don't think any of us have ever seen
in the first six months of a presidency.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
I really don't.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
And so they're gonna go after him on what I
would say are these secondary, tertiary related related fields.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
So we have the possibility, Clay also of a China
trained deal. Now that China, that would be big if
Trump got that done. It's already big. What's happened the EU, UK, Japan.
I mean, these are the major economies that getting a
trade deal with sets the rules of the road, advantages
US manufacturing and the US economy in general, but creates
(06:06):
expectations going forward with these trading partners for what we
get what they get. China, of course, has been all
along the hardest nut to crack, right, This is the
one that everybody has said is going to be a
real challenge for him. And here is Scott Besson, the
Treasury Secretary, who Trump seems to have a lot of
confidence in saying that, look, it's not a done deal,
(06:28):
but it's getting close. This has cut ten.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
I believe that we have the makings of a deal.
They announced that we would have a ninety day role,
which was a bit premature. I'll Ambassador Greer and myself
will be speaking to President Trump today about whether we
will be doing the role by the August twelfth deadline.
There's still a few technical details to be worked out
(06:54):
on the Chinese side between us. I'm confident that it
will be done, but it's not one hundred percent done.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
If you get to China trade deal done and the
economy is still humming, doing great, I think a lot
of people honestly just owe the President and apology for
attacking him so much over his stance on tariffs and trade.
As we said all along, somehow the consensus of economists
and not really trade experts, actually because you talk to them,
they are much more pro Trump than people would would realize.
(07:25):
But on just general economists, the consensus was it's terrible
for America to have tariffs and self defeating and there's
no upside. But all the countries that America does business
with have tariffs, so they can't figure out and you know,
they can't figure out this basic truth America can't have tariffs,
but everybody else has tariffs because they don't want to
make money or you know, they're doing something dumb.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
There's a problem with that. You know.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
They should have thought more about that reality, I think
clay than they did.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I think also this ties in with Trump's recognition of
premium products, and I don't know that people talk enough
about this. From a real estate perspective, Trump gets jewel properties.
I mean, he just came back from Scotland. If you
are a golfer, leave aside all of the politics. The
(08:17):
guy owns unbelievable golf courses all over the world. And
if you are a golfer and you just go around
his course, they're phenomenal. I'm telling you, Jirau, go play Darrow,
Go play the Trump Palm Beach Course. Go play if
(08:38):
you're ever fortunate enough. I've never gotten to do it.
I'm an awful golfer. Some of you have seen my swing,
but I do, like I love all sports. I've never
gotten to go play in Ireland. I've never gotten to
go play in Scotland. I've never gotten to go play
some of the old courses in England. I'm sure some
of you have made those trips. They put them together
for American golfers, guys, buddies, they go over, they make
these tours. I guarantee you if you just play those courses,
(09:02):
whatever you think about Trump, you're gonna say, Man, this
guy's courses are spectacular. And the reason why I bring
this up. You and I have been to mar Lago
several times. One of the funniest things of the entire
Letitia James attacks on Trump were that mar Lago was
only worth eighteen million dollars. Do you remember that, buck,
(09:22):
I mean, it's one of the true jewel properties in
all of Palm Beach. Is a big article in New
York Times this morning about how valuable Palm Beach real
estate is when they're tearing down houses.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
This is true.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Now they're tearing down thirty million dollar houses because people
who are billionaires don't think the thirty million dollar house
is nice enough for what they want to build. Mar Lago,
that property, it may be worth a billion dollars. Some
of you are like, this is great, an I don't
think that's crazy when you look at the physical asset,
(09:57):
how many acres it is, the location there, The point
on it is Trump sees America as a jewel property
in the overall global economy, and you don't allow people
access to your jewel properties for cheap rates. You charge
a premium for a premium property. If you're gonna play
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a great golf course, it's gonna cost you way more
to get on that course than it is to get elsewhere.
If you're gonna have the fifth Avenue Trump Tower address,
your real estate rates are gonna be way higher because
that's a premium product. He sees America as a premium
product and letting other countries come and have direct access
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to our premium product is a bad deal. And I
think that at its essence is what he's gotten. Now
people can say, well, tariffs are taxes. What if the
taxes are born primarily by the companies that are trying
to get into the marketplace and they still have to
be competitive price in the marketplace, meaning their ability to
(11:03):
raise prices is actually not as true as most economist thought.
That buck seems to me to be the reality of
what's going on here. Basically, the companies are paying a
price to have access to our market, and so far
American consumers are not having that cost passed along to
them because in a competitive marketplace, rising prices is tough
(11:26):
to do. Does that make sense. I think Trump innately
got all of what I just laid out, and I
think it's connected to the way that he sees the
world in general. America is a jewel, much like his
individual properties in America and around the world are also jewels.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
That makes sense.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Yeah, even in the criticism when he said the s
whole countries kind of right, right, there are lots of
countries where it's awful, and that's why people are so
desperate to get here where it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yes, it would be better for crappy countries to accept
that things should be improved there instead of living in
the delusion that they're not crappy. Because there are crappy countries.
I've been to some of them and spent way too
much time in some of them, and the people that
live there should figure things out.
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Speaker 4 (13:39):
Welcome back in Clay, Travis buck Sexton Show. By the way,
Next hour, doctor oz Gon to be with us top
of the third hour, he's working in the Trump administration.
Then the head of the Federal Trade Commission Commission, Melissa Hollyoaks,
she's going to be with us at two thirty. Those
are Eastern times. In the next hour, Kabla Harris announced
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she will not be running for governor of California. And
we've had some fun with some flashbacks of the best
of Kamala Harris. Here is a great montage of Kamala
Harris accents, all delivered in the past year. Cut twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
We campaign with the plan Uppercase, t Uppercase, p deep plan.
Tell everybody you know to vote tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Nothing like saying you want to meet me tomorrow. What
you're doing tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Oh, the possibilities are immense. Whatever you want to do,
you can do.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
As far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Georgia, Columbus twenty twenty ain't over until January fifth.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
All right, not quite Hillary Clinton level but still the
desire to particularly try to talk Southern. We talked about
this on the show before book. There is nothing like
people who are not from the South deciding that they
need to try to have a Southern accent when they
talk to Southerners. I mean, you guys love that, right
you you Southerners when when Yankees show up, we're like, hey, y'all,
(15:04):
how you doing down bother?
Speaker 1 (15:05):
You love that, right?
Speaker 4 (15:06):
I mean if I went to Maine and started talking
like I was a longshoreman, you know, or a lobster man,
like it would be Not.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Everybody in Maine is a lobster man, yeah they all.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Everybody in May makes a living and getting lobsters. Everybody
knows that.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
But if I if I went up to Maine and
I started talking like I was from uh, you know,
New England, like I was a like I was a.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Dahammad Yad you know. Yeah, you get it. You know,
Ike been I and Berlina, we get it.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Remember when Kevin Costner did the JFK accents, one of
the worst accents of all time. Kevin Costner a pretty
good actor, not a good and why I may not
like the I don't get as excited about the JFK
story as everybody else. I never saw the JFK movie,
the Oliver Stone movie.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Never saw it. Nope. So maybe that's why.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
It's pretty good. I mean, it's crazy. Oliver Stone is crazy.
I have no idea how much legitimacy there is to
anything that is in that movie, but it purely from
a conspiratorial Hey, uh, you know, it's hard to not
be looking over your shoulder aspect. Joe Peshi's great in it.
(16:19):
It's a very good movie. I think it's historically woefully inaccurate.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
By the way.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Let's take some of your talkbacks. Truck or Steve from Toledo, Ohio. AA,
thank guys, Truck or Steve here.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Hey, if you're a guy and you don't like boobs,
you're not a guy. I don't know what you are.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
You're not a guy. Give me some girls like boops.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I mean, they're more guys than some of the guys
that don't like boops are.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
The Atlantic has said, if you're wondering where that came from,
yesterday show, The Atlantic now says that if you like boobs,
you are a Republican. In the wake of the Sydney
Sweeney stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
The left has also decided that working out is a
right wing thing at different times, so trying to be
strong liking the female form. And they wonder why men
under fifty have swung in crazy numbers Republican or maybe
it's under forty, but crazy numbers towards the Republicans from
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in the last two years from twenty twenty three to
twenty twenty five. Yeah, it's extraordinary, and we're going to
talk with Ryan Gardusky about some of that data tomorrow
on the program.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
But it is true.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
And this is my whole new book that I wrote
called Balls, very subtly about how young men, sports fans
and Trump saved America in twenty twenty four election. It's
really quite extraordinary to see. But we're talking about that
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Speaker 2 (19:01):
Well, welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. Some
new data has come out on the New York City
mayor's race and if anyone's wondering, why should you care
you live in the Midwest or the South or the
West Coast, or the sun Belt, or the Ohio River
Valley or wherever. Well, because this is going to be
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I think a test case for the Democrat Party nationwide.
Can they win in the biggest city in America with
really the furthest left wing candidate that we've seen at
this level at least of a mayor's race in New
York for a very long time. This guy is more
radical than to Blasio, certainly more a left wing than.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Mayor Eric Adams.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
And this is a moment in time where the Democrats
are going to have to start to choose. Remember, it
was sly of Biden during the whole Blm anti cop
mess in twenty twenty. I didn't never said defund police.
I do think he knew enough. He had been in
the game long enough to know that was going to
(20:08):
be a big problem for him in the general election
if he did it, which he didn't do. So whenever
people talk about the Democrats defund police, that that became
a oh, it's AOC and it's it's the squad, and
it was not associated with Biden specifically. Even though Kamala Harris,
I know, you know, wanted to did she put out
(20:28):
a tweet about the raising money for people in Minneapolis
or something, or the bail fund, right.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I mean it still.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Yeah, Kamala was more defund police uh by for sure
than Joe Biden was. But Mam Donnie has had to
show up and speak in the aftermath of an NYPD
officer gave his life in the line of duty trying
to defend innocent people in that building, that office building
on on Park Avenue during that mass shooting a few
(20:58):
days ago, and he's being asked, He's like, hold on,
you are a disband police guy.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
You want to be the mayor.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Now you're showing up after a cop died in a
line of duty trying to stop a deranged gunman.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Where do you really.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Stand on disbanding, for example, an elite NYPD unit that
would respond to shootings just like this. This is what
Mom Donnie said, Play fifteen.
Speaker 8 (21:24):
Over the course of this race, I've been very clear
about my view of public safety and the critical rule
that police have in creating that public safety that officers
are tasked with delivering while we ask them to respond
to nearly every failure of the social safety net, and
the vision that we've put forward in this campaign despite
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what others may say, is not to defund the police.
It is, in fact, to allow those officers to respond
to these serious crimes that many of them signed up
to address, and to do so by ensuring that we
ask them to focus on those crimes, and we ask
mental health professionals to respond to calls of mental health crisis.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Great mental health professionals. How many mental health professionals are
they going to have on speed dial to deal with
what the NYPD terms an EDP emotionally disturbed person, a lunatic,
Like if we're running around the streets at three am naked,
barking like a dog and this stuff. That stuff happens
in New York. Okay, this is reality. For the cops there,
they say, oh, we got an EVP we gotta do.
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They will eventually take you to a mental health facility.
But even this idea that you're going to have mental
health people respond, what does that even mean? All they're
going to try to do is get somebody to that facility.
And by the way, if they don't have cops there,
they may be attacked, bludgeon stabbed. Does anyone want like
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a psychiatrist with the uh, you know, the tweed jacket
with the elbow patches to show up when some maniac
is waving a machete saying you to kill everybody, Like,
what what world.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Does mom Dani and the people who support him, what
world do they live in?
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Not?
Speaker 4 (23:06):
The real one is the answer and the scary thing.
And then look, this is the argument I made a
couple of weeks ago on the show. I think at
some point democrats to have to deal with the choices
that they are going to make. It's almost like being
a parent, and a lot of you out there know
what I'm talking about. If your kid keeps making the
(23:29):
wrong decisions and you do your best to steer them
away from it, you steer them away from it, you
steer them away from it. Sooner or later, experience becomes
the best teacher. Where you do something that is moronic
and your parents or your grandparents told you not to
do it, you do it, and then you're like, boy,
that was really dumb. And part of parenting is trying
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to keep kids from doing things that are so stupid
that they ruin their future life or unfortunately even lose it.
And I feel like for democrats they have to wear it.
They picked Mom Domi, and I get it. People out
there of wr many of you are listening in the
Manhattan area, and you're looking around. You're saying, Clay, You're
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just gonna throw us to the wolves. This guy's a moron.
Why should Republicans have to save Democrats from the awful
choices that they're trying to make. If you want to
put a communist in charge of New York City, deal
with it, New York.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Deal with it.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Why should all of us have to cobble together votes
from Andrew Cuomo, who's awful, or Eric Adams, who's mediocre,
or Curtis Sliwa, who's otherwise not going to be able
to win, because the idiots of New York City are
otherwise going to endorse a guy who was sharing videos
and tweets saying defund the police. I saw a new
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clip that he shared where it's like somebody, a police officer,
was crying in a car and he's celebrating it. Just
I find this guy to be utterly false in a
way that is even staggering for politicians. And I'm my concern,
Buck is you heard that answer right there. My concern
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is he's just gonna try to glide because he is
glib and he is good at talking. He's just going
to glide away from all the crazy opinions he had
and say, well, that's not what I really meant, That's
not really your way that I wanted applied. Here's a
perfect example. This has cut sixteen.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
He has asked straight up if he wished that he
hadn't said he wanted to defund the police play sixteen.
Do you wish you hadn't said some of those things
a few years back?
Speaker 8 (25:45):
My statements in twenty twenty eight were ones made amidst
a frustration that many New Yorkers held at the murder
of George Floyd and the inability to deliver on what
Eric Adams of all people described as the right for
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all of us to be able to enjoy safety and justice.
That we need not choose between the two.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
It's just a non answer. Which is what the which
is what he's going to do.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
And you're right about Joe Biden wasn't crazy enough to
go fully down the defund the police BLM train, because
I think at that point in time he had enough
sanity to recognize that that was a poor decision. And
we've said on this program. Probably the only thing Joe
Biden got right in his whole career was the nineteen
ninety four Crime Bill, which helped to put violent criminals
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behind bars, kept them off the streets, and has led
to at that point a decline in the overall rate
of violence. Mamdannie is just He's an inauthentic yet articulate politician,
and that means that he is going to be able
to avoid consequences for anything that that he has said.
(27:04):
I think, and I think unfortunately he's going to be
elected the next mayor of New York City. The latest,
the latest polling on this, the latest polling does not
look good for anyone who's hoping Mom Donnie does not win. Because,
however you split it, even if Cuomo drops, he wins,
If Adams drops, he wins, If a combination drops, he
it's it's not looking good.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Uh, And it's it's I.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Think disproportionately the well, I know it is disproportionately the
under forty vote in New York that he is counting on.
And there are people who live in New York City,
and I understand this one of the great frustrations. And
this is true in a lot of cities in America
right now, It's certainly true in San Francisco, it's true
in La I'm sure people complain even about the price
(27:47):
of housing in downtown Nashville now right. I mean, you know,
people say it's expensive or it's got a lot more expensive,
not compared to New York. But prices can rise in
these areas pretty rapidly. But in New York, the how
supply is artificially constrained in a number of ways by
the regulations, by the super tenant friendly and landlord hostile
(28:11):
laws that are in place, the massive welfare programs for
housing that you know, I think it's a ny h
AA or whatever is in the New York City Housing Authority.
There's a lot, and there's rent control. There's all these
things that the government has done. Oh, and there's all
the illegals. I mean, you go through this whole list.
(28:33):
There's all these things that are government decisions that have
made housing substantially more expensive than it would otherwise be
in New York. And here comes a guy whose entire
ideology is in line with all of those decisions, who's saying, oh,
but I'm going to make things cheaper for you and
it's not going to work. The people who are sitting
(28:53):
around saying, oh, but I'll be able to afford to
live here if Mamdani is the mayor are guaranteed to
be very, very disappointed, but they're still gonna vote for him.
And you know, this is like real communism has never
been tried, you know, real mom donism. You're gonna see
gonna they're gonna come up with some reason why someone
else stopped and whatever. The things that he is saying
(29:14):
he's going to do are guaranteed to fail. Bringing social
workers instead, not even in addition to police, instead of
police to mostly disturbed calls. Imagine if that cop in
Virginia Clay who responded was a wellness check on somebody
who was having a mental breakdown.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Imagine it was the cop as a social worker.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
That social worker by the former Georgetown player would have
been stabbed to death with a butcher knife in that
hallway in that building we all saw on the body camp.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
So what the heck is going on here?
Speaker 4 (29:43):
It's not even you can every he's wrong on everything,
but the one that I look at and I really
it's not even BLM because that was such a defund
the police. Any moron that you knew on social media
in twenty twenty, oftentimes highly educated, was making that argument
in twenty twenty. That one doesn't even surprise me as much.
(30:06):
The fact that he's arguing that we should have city
owned grocery stores is so dumb, Like that by itself
is so profoundly dumb. And he's making that argument right now.
He's not even trying to backtrack on that. He's saying, Oh,
grocery stores are making too much money. The profit margin
on a grocery store is two percent at best. It
(30:29):
is one of the most difficult businesses to do well
in all of American commerce. And if you just look
at all these socialist countries that decide, hey, we're going
to have government funded grocery store, you can't go buy anything,
people stand in line for hours, there's never any food there,
you can't price control. And suddenly he thinks, in New
(30:51):
York City, where it's hard to bring things into anyway, right,
the expensive for trucks and frigeration and everything else that's required,
and he's arguing, Hey, I'm going to save people money
on groceries by taking it over and doing city funding
grocery stores is so transparently unable to understand basic economics
(31:13):
that that by itself is disqualifying to me.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Well, this is what I mean is it's not like
there's a trade off here. And this is I think
also exactly what you're getting at. It's not that there's
a trade off here of Oh, well, people want the
following things from Mamdani, and even if he's bad on
some things that you and I and others care about,
he will deliver on things that they want.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
He's going to fail on the things that they think
they're getting as well.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Yes, it's just going to be a disaster across the board.
And he doesn't even have he's articulate. What has he
ever done that is any level of success. One rule
that I wish was in place is in order to
be running for politics, you have to have been profoundly
successful in some other aspect of your life.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Right, Hey, I.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
Had success here and now I'm going to try politics.
What has mom Donnie ever done that he's been successful at.
I mean, look, he's very artic He.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Wasn't even successful at faking being black so he could
get into Columbia University, which is that's right, quite a feat.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
I mean, he's good at communication, I guess, but he's
never been successful to my knowledge in the communication fields anyway.
I just I think New York City is going to
make this choice. I think he's going to be elected mayor,
and maybe he's just going to completely change all of
his opinions. There's that possibility. But if he actually tries
to implement the things that he's arguing for, it's going
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Which one is healthier? Discuss stuff like that,
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
Now let's talk a little bit about the economy, shall we.
We'll also get into some of the updates on Russia
collusion transparency. A lot of people I'm seeing, at least online,
want consequences for the conspirators in that we discuss whether
that is likely to happen or not. But we should
certainly stay up to speed with all of the revelations
(00:26):
coming out from Director of National Intelligence Tulsey Gabbard. But
first up on the economy, and on this I've said
it all along, Clay, and I firmly believe it that.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Trump is almost a.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
It's an unfair situation for him because I think broadly speaking,
expectations for the economy under Trump are generally high, so
he doesn't get the credit that he would if he
were a different president with what we're seeing, especially given
some of the moves he's made, like on trade, because
(01:02):
everyone goes, yeah, of course Trump, the economy, economy is
going to be great, like this is just I think
that we are almost almost lacking a little gratitude at
this point for all of the things that Trump is
doing that are helping the economy go. And he spoke
about the Q two GDP numbers, the second quarter gross
(01:22):
domestic product. This has cut eight. Here he is laying
out what's going on play it.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
In the second quarter, we smear short expectations. They thought
it would be maybe a little bit less than two,
and it was three, a little bit more than three.
Consumer spending is up, business investment is way up, domestic
manufacturing is way up, real disposable family income is up,
and personal savings are up. Other than that, we're not
(01:50):
doing so great. We have the hottest country. And I'll
tell you it said, it's a great. We're having a
lot of fun with it.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
You know, Clay, It's going very well, I would say,
even exceeding high expectations at this point, this early on,
basically six months into his presidency, and he's saying not
only that, not only is GDP higher, this has cut nine,
but on the trade deals, look at all this money,
hundreds of billions's flown into the country.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Play nine today.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
You see a GDP was much higher than anticipated. And
it's Scott good job, and Scott Besson's been working. Just
got back from a little excursion and a meeting with
China in Europe, and that went well. We've done very
well with the EU deal. It's a very big deal.
(02:44):
I guess they say the biggest trade deal ever made
by far, probably is just completed Japan and many other countries,
and hundreds of billions of dollars is flowing into our country.
We've never seen anything even close. And that's not me
saying it, that's everybody's saying it.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
He's right, Clay, it's money that wouldn't be in the treasury,
hundreds of billions of dollars. That matters if we can
sustain three plus percent growth, and I think we can.
I think the many of you out there are way
smarter at this than I am. But I think the
business expensing being accelerated is going to lead also, with
(03:25):
a lot of certainty now on tariffs and pricing and
everything else.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I think it's going to lead to a.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Massive investment in in and from American business, and that
is going to accelerate in the third quarter. And then
if we can get those rates finally coming back down,
if we can get your own Powell to agree to
come down in September. I don't think we talk enough
about the fact that your own power will cut interest
(03:54):
rates for Democrats. I believe right before the election, you know,
everybody just kind of fades and doesn't think about that
a great deal. The guy cut interest rates twice right
before the election to try to juice and make people think, oh,
the inflation battle is over. He cut interest rates when
(04:15):
inflation was still far higher. This guy's been wrong on everything,
and I think he's late now. And Trump gets and
understands inflation and interest rates and the interplay there and
growth rates and how all of that becomes the core
of a natural economy. I think if we start to
get those interest rate cuts in conjunction with everything else,
(04:39):
I think as we enter twenty twenty six, this economy
is going to truly be firing on all cylinders.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
And I don't even know.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
I think you're starting to see this from the left
and from the Democrat side. They are focused on things
that are not paramount. And I know people out there
are still fired up about Epstein, but understand that Democrats
were in power for four years and did nothing about Epstein.
When they attacked Trump on Epstein, it's because they can't
(05:09):
go after him on the economy because it's starting to
fire on all cylinders. Can't go after him on the border,
and when they do go after him on deportations, his
base actually supports that can't go after him on crime.
I really, I mean, Trump is delivering on a level
that I don't think any of us have ever seen
in the first six months of a presidency.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
I really don't.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
And so they're gonna go after him on what I
would say are these secondary, tertiary related related fields.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
So we have the possibility, Clay also of a China
trained deal. Now that China, that would be big if
Trump got that done. It's already big. What's happened the EU, UK, Japan.
I mean, these are the major economies that getting a
trade deal with sets the rules of the road, advantages
US manufacturing and the US economy in general, but creates
(06:06):
expectations going forward with these trading partners for what we
get what they get. China, of course, has been all
along the hardest nut to crack, right, This is the
one that everybody has said is going to be a
real challenge for him. And here is Scott Besson, the
Treasury Secretary, who Trump seems to have a lot of
confidence in saying that, look, it's not a done deal,
(06:28):
but it's getting close. This has cut ten.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
I believe that we have the makings of a deal.
They announced that we would have a ninety day role,
which was a bit premature. I'll Ambassador Greer and myself
will be speaking to President Trump today about whether we
will be doing the role by the August twelfth deadline.
There's still a few technical details to be worked out
(06:54):
on the Chinese side between us. I'm confident that it
will be done, but it's not one hundred percent done.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
If you get to China trade deal done and the
economy is still humming, doing great, I think a lot
of people honestly just owe the President and apology for
attacking him so much over his stance on tariffs and trade.
As we said all along, somehow the consensus of economists
and not really trade experts, actually because you talk to them,
they are much more pro Trump than people would would realize.
(07:25):
But on just general economists, the consensus was it's terrible
for America to have tariffs and self defeating and there's
no upside. But all the countries that America does business
with have tariffs, so they can't figure out and you know,
they can't figure out this basic truth America can't have tariffs,
but everybody else has tariffs because they don't want to
make money or you know, they're doing something dumb.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
There's a problem with that. You know.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
They should have thought more about that reality, I think
clay than they did.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I think also this ties in with Trump's recognition of
premium products, and I don't know that people talk enough
about this. From a real estate perspective, Trump gets jewel properties.
I mean, he just came back from Scotland. If you
are a golfer, leave aside all of the politics. The
(08:17):
guy owns unbelievable golf courses all over the world. And
if you are a golfer and you just go around
his course, they're phenomenal. I'm telling you, Jirau, go play Darrow,
Go play the Trump Palm Beach Course. Go play if
(08:38):
you're ever fortunate enough. I've never gotten to do it.
I'm an awful golfer. Some of you have seen my swing,
but I do, like I love all sports. I've never
gotten to go play in Ireland. I've never gotten to
go play in Scotland. I've never gotten to go play
some of the old courses in England. I'm sure some
of you have made those trips. They put them together
for American golfers, guys, buddies, they go over, they make
these tours. I guarantee you if you just play those courses,
(09:02):
whatever you think about Trump, you're gonna say, Man, this
guy's courses are spectacular. And the reason why I bring
this up. You and I have been to mar Lago
several times. One of the funniest things of the entire
Letitia James attacks on Trump were that mar Lago was
only worth eighteen million dollars. Do you remember that, buck,
(09:22):
I mean, it's one of the true jewel properties in
all of Palm Beach. Is a big article in New
York Times this morning about how valuable Palm Beach real
estate is when they're tearing down houses.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
This is true.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Now they're tearing down thirty million dollar houses because people
who are billionaires don't think the thirty million dollar house
is nice enough for what they want to build. Mar Lago,
that property, it may be worth a billion dollars. Some
of you are like, this is great, an I don't
think that's crazy when you look at the physical asset,
(09:57):
how many acres it is, the location there, The point
on it is Trump sees America as a jewel property
in the overall global economy, and you don't allow people
access to your jewel properties for cheap rates. You charge
a premium for a premium property. If you're gonna play
(10:18):
a great golf course, it's gonna cost you way more
to get on that course than it is to get elsewhere.
If you're gonna have the fifth Avenue Trump Tower address,
your real estate rates are gonna be way higher because
that's a premium product. He sees America as a premium
product and letting other countries come and have direct access
(10:40):
to our premium product is a bad deal. And I
think that at its essence is what he's gotten. Now
people can say, well, tariffs are taxes. What if the
taxes are born primarily by the companies that are trying
to get into the marketplace and they still have to
be competitive price in the marketplace, meaning their ability to
(11:03):
raise prices is actually not as true as most economist thought.
That buck seems to me to be the reality of
what's going on here. Basically, the companies are paying a
price to have access to our market, and so far
American consumers are not having that cost passed along to
them because in a competitive marketplace, rising prices is tough
(11:26):
to do. Does that make sense. I think Trump innately
got all of what I just laid out, and I
think it's connected to the way that he sees the
world in general. America is a jewel, much like his
individual properties in America and around the world are also jewels.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
That makes sense.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Yeah, even in the criticism when he said the s
whole countries kind of right, right, there are lots of
countries where it's awful, and that's why people are so
desperate to get here where it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yes, it would be better for crappy countries to accept
that things should be improved there instead of living in
the delusion that they're not crappy. Because there are crappy countries.
I've been to some of them and spent way too
much time in some of them, and the people that
live there should figure things out.
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Then the head of the Federal Trade Commission Commission, Melissa Hollyoaks,
she's going to be with us at two thirty. Those
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she will not be running for governor of California. And
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We campaign with the plan Uppercase, t Uppercase, p deep plan.
Tell everybody you know to vote tomorrow.
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As far as I'm concerned.
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Georgia, Columbus twenty twenty ain't over until January fifth.
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All right, not quite Hillary Clinton level but still the
desire to particularly try to talk Southern. We talked about
this on the show before book. There is nothing like
people who are not from the South deciding that they
need to try to have a Southern accent when they
talk to Southerners. I mean, you guys love that, right
you you Southerners when when Yankees show up, we're like, hey, y'all,
(15:04):
how you doing down bother?
Speaker 1 (15:05):
You love that, right?
Speaker 4 (15:06):
I mean if I went to Maine and started talking
like I was a longshoreman, you know, or a lobster man,
like it would be Not.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Everybody in Maine is a lobster man, yeah they all.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Everybody in May makes a living and getting lobsters. Everybody
knows that.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
But if I if I went up to Maine and
I started talking like I was from uh, you know,
New England, like I was a like I was a.
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Dahammad Yad you know. Yeah, you get it. You know,
Ike been I and Berlina, we get it.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Remember when Kevin Costner did the JFK accents, one of
the worst accents of all time. Kevin Costner a pretty
good actor, not a good and why I may not
like the I don't get as excited about the JFK
story as everybody else. I never saw the JFK movie,
the Oliver Stone movie.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Never saw it. Nope. So maybe that's why.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
It's pretty good. I mean, it's crazy. Oliver Stone is crazy.
I have no idea how much legitimacy there is to
anything that is in that movie, but it purely from
a conspiratorial Hey, uh, you know, it's hard to not
be looking over your shoulder aspect. Joe Peshi's great in it.
(16:19):
It's a very good movie. I think it's historically woefully inaccurate.
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By the way.
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You're not a guy. Give me some girls like boops.
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I mean, they're more guys than some of the guys
that don't like boops are.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
The Atlantic has said, if you're wondering where that came from,
yesterday show, The Atlantic now says that if you like boobs,
you are a Republican. In the wake of the Sydney
Sweeney stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
The left has also decided that working out is a
right wing thing at different times, so trying to be
strong liking the female form. And they wonder why men
under fifty have swung in crazy numbers Republican or maybe
it's under forty, but crazy numbers towards the Republicans from
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in the last two years from twenty twenty three to
twenty twenty five. Yeah, it's extraordinary, and we're going to
talk with Ryan Gardusky about some of that data tomorrow
on the program.
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But it is true.
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Speaker 2 (19:01):
Well, welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. Some
new data has come out on the New York City
mayor's race and if anyone's wondering, why should you care
you live in the Midwest or the South or the
West Coast, or the sun Belt, or the Ohio River
Valley or wherever. Well, because this is going to be
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I think a test case for the Democrat Party nationwide.
Can they win in the biggest city in America with
really the furthest left wing candidate that we've seen at
this level at least of a mayor's race in New
York for a very long time. This guy is more
radical than to Blasio, certainly more a left wing than.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Mayor Eric Adams.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
And this is a moment in time where the Democrats
are going to have to start to choose. Remember, it
was sly of Biden during the whole Blm anti cop
mess in twenty twenty. I didn't never said defund police.
I do think he knew enough. He had been in
the game long enough to know that was going to
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be a big problem for him in the general election
if he did it, which he didn't do. So whenever
people talk about the Democrats defund police, that that became
a oh, it's AOC and it's it's the squad, and
it was not associated with Biden specifically. Even though Kamala Harris,
I know, you know, wanted to did she put out
(20:28):
a tweet about the raising money for people in Minneapolis
or something, or the bail fund, right.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I mean it still.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Yeah, Kamala was more defund police uh by for sure
than Joe Biden was. But Mam Donnie has had to
show up and speak in the aftermath of an NYPD
officer gave his life in the line of duty trying
to defend innocent people in that building, that office building
on on Park Avenue during that mass shooting a few
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days ago, and he's being asked, He's like, hold on,
you are a disband police guy.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
You want to be the mayor.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Now you're showing up after a cop died in a
line of duty trying to stop a deranged gunman.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Where do you really.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Stand on disbanding, for example, an elite NYPD unit that
would respond to shootings just like this. This is what
Mom Donnie said, Play fifteen.
Speaker 8 (21:24):
Over the course of this race, I've been very clear
about my view of public safety and the critical rule
that police have in creating that public safety that officers
are tasked with delivering while we ask them to respond
to nearly every failure of the social safety net, and
the vision that we've put forward in this campaign despite
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what others may say, is not to defund the police.
It is, in fact, to allow those officers to respond
to these serious crimes that many of them signed up
to address, and to do so by ensuring that we
ask them to focus on those crimes, and we ask
mental health professionals to respond to calls of mental health crisis.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Great mental health professionals. How many mental health professionals are
they going to have on speed dial to deal with
what the NYPD terms an EDP emotionally disturbed person, a lunatic,
Like if we're running around the streets at three am naked,
barking like a dog and this stuff. That stuff happens
in New York. Okay, this is reality. For the cops there,
they say, oh, we got an EVP we gotta do.
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They will eventually take you to a mental health facility.
But even this idea that you're going to have mental
health people respond, what does that even mean? All they're
going to try to do is get somebody to that facility.
And by the way, if they don't have cops there,
they may be attacked, bludgeon stabbed. Does anyone want like
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a psychiatrist with the uh, you know, the tweed jacket
with the elbow patches to show up when some maniac
is waving a machete saying you to kill everybody, Like,
what what world.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Does mom Dani and the people who support him, what
world do they live in?
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Not?
Speaker 4 (23:06):
The real one is the answer and the scary thing.
And then look, this is the argument I made a
couple of weeks ago on the show. I think at
some point democrats to have to deal with the choices
that they are going to make. It's almost like being
a parent, and a lot of you out there know
what I'm talking about. If your kid keeps making the
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wrong decisions and you do your best to steer them
away from it, you steer them away from it, you
steer them away from it. Sooner or later, experience becomes
the best teacher. Where you do something that is moronic
and your parents or your grandparents told you not to
do it, you do it, and then you're like, boy,
that was really dumb. And part of parenting is trying
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to keep kids from doing things that are so stupid
that they ruin their future life or unfortunately even lose it.
And I feel like for democrats they have to wear it.
They picked Mom Domi, and I get it. People out
there of wr many of you are listening in the
Manhattan area, and you're looking around. You're saying, Clay, You're
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just gonna throw us to the wolves. This guy's a moron.
Why should Republicans have to save Democrats from the awful
choices that they're trying to make. If you want to
put a communist in charge of New York City, deal
with it, New York.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Deal with it.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Why should all of us have to cobble together votes
from Andrew Cuomo, who's awful, or Eric Adams, who's mediocre,
or Curtis Sliwa, who's otherwise not going to be able
to win, because the idiots of New York City are
otherwise going to endorse a guy who was sharing videos
and tweets saying defund the police. I saw a new
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clip that he shared where it's like somebody, a police officer,
was crying in a car and he's celebrating it. Just
I find this guy to be utterly false in a
way that is even staggering for politicians. And I'm my concern,
Buck is you heard that answer right there. My concern
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is he's just gonna try to glide because he is
glib and he is good at talking. He's just going
to glide away from all the crazy opinions he had
and say, well, that's not what I really meant, That's
not really your way that I wanted applied. Here's a
perfect example. This has cut sixteen.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
He has asked straight up if he wished that he
hadn't said he wanted to defund the police play sixteen.
Do you wish you hadn't said some of those things
a few years back?
Speaker 8 (25:45):
My statements in twenty twenty eight were ones made amidst
a frustration that many New Yorkers held at the murder
of George Floyd and the inability to deliver on what
Eric Adams of all people described as the right for
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all of us to be able to enjoy safety and justice.
That we need not choose between the two.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
It's just a non answer. Which is what the which
is what he's going to do.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
And you're right about Joe Biden wasn't crazy enough to
go fully down the defund the police BLM train, because
I think at that point in time he had enough
sanity to recognize that that was a poor decision. And
we've said on this program. Probably the only thing Joe
Biden got right in his whole career was the nineteen
ninety four Crime Bill, which helped to put violent criminals
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behind bars, kept them off the streets, and has led
to at that point a decline in the overall rate
of violence. Mamdannie is just He's an inauthentic yet articulate politician,
and that means that he is going to be able
to avoid consequences for anything that that he has said.
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I think, and I think unfortunately he's going to be
elected the next mayor of New York City. The latest,
the latest polling on this, the latest polling does not
look good for anyone who's hoping Mom Donnie does not win. Because,
however you split it, even if Cuomo drops, he wins,
If Adams drops, he wins, If a combination drops, he
it's it's not looking good.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Uh, And it's it's I.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Think disproportionately the well, I know it is disproportionately the
under forty vote in New York that he is counting on.
And there are people who live in New York City,
and I understand this one of the great frustrations. And
this is true in a lot of cities in America
right now, It's certainly true in San Francisco, it's true
in La I'm sure people complain even about the price
(27:47):
of housing in downtown Nashville now right. I mean, you know,
people say it's expensive or it's got a lot more expensive,
not compared to New York. But prices can rise in
these areas pretty rapidly. But in New York, the how
supply is artificially constrained in a number of ways by
the regulations, by the super tenant friendly and landlord hostile
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laws that are in place, the massive welfare programs for
housing that you know, I think it's a ny h
AA or whatever is in the New York City Housing Authority.
There's a lot, and there's rent control. There's all these
things that the government has done. Oh, and there's all
the illegals. I mean, you go through this whole list.
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There's all these things that are government decisions that have
made housing substantially more expensive than it would otherwise be
in New York. And here comes a guy whose entire
ideology is in line with all of those decisions, who's saying, oh,
but I'm going to make things cheaper for you and
it's not going to work. The people who are sitting
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around saying, oh, but I'll be able to afford to
live here if Mamdani is the mayor are guaranteed to
be very, very disappointed, but they're still gonna vote for him.
And you know, this is like real communism has never
been tried, you know, real mom donism. You're gonna see
gonna they're gonna come up with some reason why someone
else stopped and whatever. The things that he is saying
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he's going to do are guaranteed to fail. Bringing social
workers instead, not even in addition to police, instead of
police to mostly disturbed calls. Imagine if that cop in
Virginia Clay who responded was a wellness check on somebody
who was having a mental breakdown.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Imagine it was the cop as a social worker.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
That social worker by the former Georgetown player would have
been stabbed to death with a butcher knife in that
hallway in that building we all saw on the body camp.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
So what the heck is going on here?
Speaker 4 (29:43):
It's not even you can every he's wrong on everything,
but the one that I look at and I really
it's not even BLM because that was such a defund
the police. Any moron that you knew on social media
in twenty twenty, oftentimes highly educated, was making that argument
in twenty twenty. That one doesn't even surprise me as much.
(30:06):
The fact that he's arguing that we should have city
owned grocery stores is so dumb, Like that by itself
is so profoundly dumb. And he's making that argument right now.
He's not even trying to backtrack on that. He's saying, Oh,
grocery stores are making too much money. The profit margin
on a grocery store is two percent at best. It
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is one of the most difficult businesses to do well
in all of American commerce. And if you just look
at all these socialist countries that decide, hey, we're going
to have government funded grocery store, you can't go buy anything,
people stand in line for hours, there's never any food there,
you can't price control. And suddenly he thinks, in New
(30:51):
York City, where it's hard to bring things into anyway, right,
the expensive for trucks and frigeration and everything else that's required,
and he's arguing, Hey, I'm going to save people money
on groceries by taking it over and doing city funding
grocery stores is so transparently unable to understand basic economics
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that that by itself is disqualifying to me.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Well, this is what I mean is it's not like
there's a trade off here. And this is I think
also exactly what you're getting at. It's not that there's
a trade off here of Oh, well, people want the
following things from Mamdani, and even if he's bad on
some things that you and I and others care about,
he will deliver on things that they want.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
He's going to fail on the things that they think
they're getting as well.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Yes, it's just going to be a disaster across the board.
And he doesn't even have he's articulate. What has he
ever done that is any level of success. One rule
that I wish was in place is in order to
be running for politics, you have to have been profoundly
successful in some other aspect of your life.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Right, Hey, I.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
Had success here and now I'm going to try politics.
What has mom Donnie ever done that he's been successful at.
I mean, look, he's very artic He.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Wasn't even successful at faking being black so he could
get into Columbia University, which is that's right, quite a feat.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
I mean, he's good at communication, I guess, but he's
never been successful to my knowledge in the communication fields anyway.
I just I think New York City is going to
make this choice. I think he's going to be elected mayor,
and maybe he's just going to completely change all of
his opinions. There's that possibility. But if he actually tries
to implement the things that he's arguing for, it's going
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