August 28, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of The Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show dives deep into the aftermath of the Minneapolis mass shooting, exposing media bias, political hypocrisy, and the cultural consequences of radical gender ideology.
Clay and Buck begin with updates on the tragic shooting at Annunciation Church in Minneapolis, where a trans-identifying shooter killed two children and wounded others. They analyze the shooter’s disturbing manifesto, which included anti-Trump messages, racial slurs, and references to past mass shooters. The hosts criticize mainstream media outlets like ABC News and CNN for downplaying the shooter’s motives and prioritizing pronoun correctness over truth, highlighting how legacy media shields Democrats from accountability.
The hour features a powerful interview with Virginia Lieutenant Governor Winsome Sears, who outlines her campaign for governor. Sears touts Virginia’s economic success under Republican leadership—over 276,000 new jobs, a $10 billion surplus, and reduced regulations—and warns against her opponent Abigail Spanberger’s support for trans athletes in women’s sports, defunding police, and radical school policies. Sears calls for common-sense governance, parental rights, and law enforcement support.
Clay and Buck also explore the broader cultural impact of identity politics, arguing that the LGBTQ+ movement has been hijacked by trans activism. They urge gay Americans to speak out against radical gender ideology and reclaim their distinct identity. Listener emails and calls reinforce this message, including a heartfelt story from a mother whose son transitioned at 17, sparking a discussion on emotional blackmail, psychiatric influence, and family trauma.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back in here too, Clay and Buck appreciate you
all being with us. We have some follow up on
yesterday's horrific shooting to bring to you. We just want
to make sure we're following the story closely, giving all
the details. And also, yes, of course this becomes an
issue of politics because the Democrats have rushed and blame
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gun control, have rushed to mock prayer, and of course
to make sure that nobody thinks this has anything to
do with a trans arrangement syndrome situation that they're very
clear on that one, and I wanted to spend some
time on what is true here and what is really
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going on with all of this. But I would first say, Clay,
fortunately my assessment that the news we were hearing out
of the hospitals was indicative of most, if not all
of there. I believe adults and children admitted for wounds
from the mass shooting, and there has been confirmation that
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they all made it. So that is a blessing. And
I would note a lot of you were praying. I
know you, we were praying here on this show while
we were waiting for more news of four who were
in critical condition. Those are the ones we were of
course most concerned about, and the others who were stable.
But they're all going home to their families. That has
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been confirmed. You know, we did lose we did lose
two children to the horrific terror attack, trans terror attack
in Minneapolis. But we also have to take the good
news where it comes and how we can. And the
good news is that those who are admitted to the
hospital wounds all made it, and you know, their families
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are clearly overjoyed at that news. Despite all the tragedy
and the horror of what happened, there can be some
light in the darkness. So I wanted to note that
because we were discussing that and that was an important
update that you should all know. Also, there are stories
of the bravery and the love for one another from
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the students from some of these teachers. Here is a
a fifth grader who says that his friend saved him
from this shooter play Cup one.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
It was like right beside me. I was like two
seats away from the stage glass windows, so they were
like the shots were like right next to me.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Scary. Yeah, he went under after that.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, I think I got a gunpowder on my neck. Yeah,
when you heard the shots.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
What went through your head?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I was like the first one, I was like, what
is that? I thought it was just something that I
heard it again, I just ran under the pew and
then I covered my head. My friend Victor like saved
me though, because he laid on top of me. But
he got hit. Your friend laid on top of you, Yeah,
and he got hit.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Is this something that you've practiced before?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah, we we practiced it like every month or I
don't know, but yeah, we've We've never practiced it.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
In the in the church though, His friend Clay covered
him with his own body during the shooting. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Look there.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
This is what I like to do when awful things happen.
I like to talk about the people who did the
right thing, and who were brave and who were courageous
and who made the choice to do everything that is,
uh what you would hope would happen. There's always people
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who run towards the sound of gunfire and do whatever
they can to protect innocent people, and I think their
stories oftentimes get lost because we focus too much on
the killer, meaning one of the reasons I try to avoid.
Sometimes people don't like it. They send an email like
why don't you been named the killer as often as
because the data reflects that a lot of people, in
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their sick minds are doing this to try to be famous.
That's what the Columbine guys did. They basically have created
an entire copycat arena of school shooters who all want
to be famous. They want their names to echo in infamy.
And I would rather tell the story as these kids'
stories come out. I would rather share stories of bravery
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and courage and yes, sometimes mournful loss of the victims
than give the person who is Frankly, I think evil
and certainly motivated by a desire to have their evil
acts not only create infamy for themselves, but motivate others
to engage in acts of evil. And so I think
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for all people of good conscience, it's important to shine
a bright light on positivity, good courage overcoming evil, as
it does every single day. So within that context, I
do think it's important to examine why this is happening.
What has occurred that in Nashville, Tennessee, my hometown, a
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trans person would take a gun in and try to
kill innocent kids at a school that she attended, and
at a trans man would take a gun into the
school that he attended and try to kill Christians. And
I want to play a couple of these cuts, Buck,
because I think they're important. You all out there listening
to us right now are quite well informed on this story.
(05:39):
But I always think it's important for you to think
about what would you know if you were just not
listening to this show. And maybe you're not on social
media and you're not following people like Mary Margaret Olahan,
who we just talked with. You're not following Buck, You're
not following me. You are just kind of out there
in legacy media land. What would you hear? I want
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to play a couple of these cuts. This is ABC News.
ABC News just had to pay sixteen million dollars to
settle a lawsuit with President Trump over Joan Stepanopolis calling
him a rapist inaccurately on television multiple times during an
interview with Nancy Mays. This is to me, not an error.
(06:19):
This is I want to get this guy's name. Aaron
Katterski reporting about the Minnesota shooter. Now, remember the Minnesota
shooter wrote on his gun, kill President Trump. Kill President Trump.
He is the furthest thing from a Trump supporter. You
could be imagine you didn't know that, you hadn't seen
(06:40):
that photo, you didn't have this information. This is what
ABC News viewers heard last night, and there are millions
of them in the report about this shooting.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Listen.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
Twenty three year old Robin Westman was able to leave
what police called a video manifesto that they're now going
through to try and establish motive. We've also been going
through it and can tell you there are crude diagrams
of the church. There are also photos of the weapons,
and they include all sorts of writings, the names of
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past mass shooters, criticism of Israel, the name of President
Trump written on the guns.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
There are also racial slurs.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
Nihilistic statements, all painting the picture of a disturbed individual
who carried out this mass shooting on the first week
of school at the Annunciation Church in Minneapolis.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
Okay, how do you not say, if your goal is
to inform the public about the facts of a case,
how do you leave out that it was written kill
President Trump and add President Trump's name on the gun. Well,
if you're watching that, you could think, oh, that must
be a diehard Trump supporter. Oh this is one of
those crazy Trump supporters. He took a gun to a
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school and he shot up the place. I do think
that this is incredible important and also Buck, I wanted
to play this, and I know the news reports are
using the person's name.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
This is not us.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
But in order to play this audio, I think it's
important for you to hear what they're saying. Jake Tapper
on CNN, they are continuing to be concerned about using
the right pronoun for a terrorist killer. This is what
you would have heard if you were watching CNN yesterday
during their coverage.
Speaker 7 (08:23):
Cut five Minneapolis start Rebune just as another piece of
the puzzle as to who the shooter was, Minneapolis start
Abune says, according to court records, because there's been some
confusion about what the shooter's name was, Yes, Robin Westman's
mother applied to change your child's name in twenty nineteen.
It was at one point Robert Paul Westman. But since
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she identifies as a female and wants her name to
reflect that identification was underage, it's now Robin Westman.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
I mean, this is a mass delusion. When you have
a killer terrorist and on live television, you are worried
about using the direct pronoun of a trans terrorist. It's indefensible.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
It's indefensible, it's Cowardice Tapper, I'm not surprised this is
he's always maneuvering within the corporate layers at CNN, because
it's not the audience that he works for, it's the
bosses writing the checks that he tries to cater to.
And with that in mind, you have to remember that
some of these media institutions, certainly at CNN, there are
people who are keeping score on pronoun usage. Maybe they're
(09:28):
doing it quietly, Clay, but they tend to work in
hr other places in the building as well, and they
will remember if you use the wrong pronoun, even for
a child murdering psychopath like this guy was, they will
remember that you don't bend the knee, and they will
try to exact revenge retribution on you career wise later on.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
I still see people.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I just got an email a few days ago from
somebody about an unrelated matter to media. But you know,
an email with somebody else going to be work doing
work for me with pronouns in this in the signature. Yeah,
why why do you I want to ask this person?
I mean, I'll be honest, I want to ask why
why do you have pronouns in your in your email signature?
(10:14):
Do you think I don't know? You're clearly a woman.
Why are you telling me that you're a woman in
your email signature? Like I I'm I'm no longer just
passive about this. It's a bit like the mask thing.
By the way, I know you're gonna say, Buck, that's
a crazy turn.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
It's really not. With COVID, initially it.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Was just just to do it because because it'll do
something and it'll make people feel better. And then we said, ah,
I mean, I guess like some places, maybe I'll put
this on so you don't freak out. And then it
was you better do it or else I'll lock you up.
You better do this, or else I'll ban you from
public access to bars and restaurants and everything else. They're
buildings where you work. That's the same thing with a
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pronoun thing. It starts out it's, oh, it's just a courtesy,
and then once they get a critical mass, it's do
this or you lose your job. So don't ever fore
get the slippery slope is real. Slippery slope is almost undefeated,
and the slippery slope with his trans maadness stuff is
absolutely real and established, and finally it has started to
move in the other direction where yeah, you know, I'm
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sick of saying it too. Of course you treat trans
people with kindness. They just treat them like human beings,
because they are human beings. But you know, Clay, if
I walked around telling everybody you have to call me Emperor,
Lord of the universe, sexton, I'm sorry. People don't have
to do that. That doesn't make them a bad person,
because I'm not Emperor, Lord of the Universe, sexton. And
just because somebody wants to demand something from you, it
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doesn't mean they can say, because of courtesy, you have
to go along with it. Never mind, as Trump says,
the seven foot guys were like, I want to play
women's basketball now.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
No, No, Why you don't get.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
To Why should you get to pick your pronouns anymore
than you get to pick your adjectives. Let me tell
you something may stun some of you.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
People call me.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
Some pretty tough things on social media. Some people are
even maybe even a little bit mean. I don't get
to say, hey, sorry, my preferred adjectives are handsome, brilliant,
Like I don't get to tell you how you define me. Well, right,
what if somebody, Clay, what if you were sitting down
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with an interview and said, we'll take this in the
sports world for a second. You sat down with somebody
who is, you know, an NFL player, and he's like,
I would prefer that you refer to me as Heisman
Trophy winner so and so. Yeah, and you look at
him and you go, but you didn't win a Heisman Trophy.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Are you being discourteous or are you just not living
in a delusion?
Speaker 5 (12:37):
I think again, reasonable people have to stand up and
say we're not going to play this game anymore. And
even beyond that, how do the Democrats back out of this?
Speaker 4 (12:49):
By the way, how does that?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Because I think they're stuck. I think this is the
problem they've rout into. They they're just waiting until they
have enough power again to ram it all down our
throats again. That's the game. The game is not to
actually retreat.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
I'll give you my answer. I think gay people need
to say we're not a part of this group anymore.
And I know we got a lot of gay people
out there listening to us right now, and I know
some of you have felt this for some time. There
is a pretty big difference between saying, hey, I'm attracted
to the same sex and hey, I am a different.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Gender than what all of us know to be true.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
I'll even say, back in the day, back in we
had people transvestite, right like you dressed up potentially as
someone you weren't. You didn't claim you didn't claim that
you were actually that. And I think a lot of
gay people, frankly are looking around and saying like, hey,
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you know.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
I'm fine with the l's, the g's, the b's.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
This is that this is the Dave Chappelle sketch where
he got a lot of grief from the last I
think I think that to you answer your question, I
think that gay people have to start saying, hey, this
is not really our struggle. Our struggle was, Hey, we
want to be able to have basic human rights, We
want to be able to live as we believe we
should be able to live. But you don't have to
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have surgery to try to artificially create yourself if you
are gay. And I think a lot of gay people
just need to say there's a difference here. This whole
identity politics has created. Pardon the pun, a lot of
very strange bedfellows.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Right.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
A lot of black people out there are actually very
conservative and go to church all the time, and they're
looking around and they're like, this trans thing is crazy.
I don't think dudes should be able to win women's championships.
Why am I in the same party as them? I
think identity politics has to explode and all the individuals
have to make rational decisions regardless of your race, your gender,
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or your ethnicity. And you have to be willing to
speak truth. And a man is not a woman and
a woman is not a man. If they can get
you to lie about that, they can get you to
lie about anything. And they took advantage of kindness, particularly
of women. I'm sorry, women are kinder in general than men.
Notice men, there is no Dylan mulvaney. There's no man.
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There's no woman who used to be a man that
men are like, this is the man of the year.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
We just don't do it.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Women got taken advantage of I think women and gay
people need to say this is not right.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
We're done with it. That's my answer.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
So gold has been valuable for a long time. Think
about history, Think about what is the most basic unit
of money for thousands of years that people will consider
Oh well, gold, Gold has always been valid. If you
have gold coins, people will trade those for stuff because
gold is good and valuable. Now, look at the last
ten years, ten years. I just put this into an
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a into AI to give me a sense of what
the numbers are. Gold has had about a one hundred
and eighty eight percent return over the last ten years.
That's pretty good, isn't it. In fact, over just the
last year, gold has gone up about forty percent. So
this is pretty straightforward, my friends. The thesis here is
gold is valuable. Gold over time increases in value, and
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you should have some gold as part of your portfolio. Now,
I understand Trump's doing amazing things with the economy. It's
very easy to kind of rest on Trump's laurels here
and say, well, we're gonna look at the trade deals
and look at all these things.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Trump's only got a few years in office, and I'm
trying to get you prepared for your finances and your
future for ten, fifteen, twenty years from now, and gold
as a part of that plan just makes sense. A
part of the plant. It's not the whole planet's a
part of the plant. It's a way to balance your
portfolio and to protect some of your savings. I'm a
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Welcome back in everybody to Clay and Buck.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
We are joined now by Lieutenant Governor Winsome Earl Sears,
the first woman elected governor, first black woman and female
veteran to hold statewide office in Virginia. A fantastic patriot
who is doing wonderful things in the great state of Virginia,
which is a place I've spent a tremendous amount of
time actually over the years. O, Tenant Governor, appreciate you
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being with us.
Speaker 9 (19:20):
Well, hello, and thank you for having me. Now, I
do have to correct you on one thing. I'm not
yet the first female governor. I'm the first female lieutenant governor.
That's a good thing too.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Oh sorry, well, yes, but you're going to be the
first female governor, right, tell us about it?
Speaker 9 (19:38):
Well, there, that is, yes, And it's why because we
have the common sense ideas, what do I be Well,
it's a good questions that I think I just did. Well,
it's because again, we have been able to present an
economy to the people of Virginia and they love it.
They love that we have created so many jobs. You know,
two hundred and seventy six thousand people working that aren't
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before we came in the office. We also have over
two hundred and fifty thousand job opening and then we've
created on top of that, fifteen thousand plus new business
startups never existed. How can you do that? Because you
get rid of barriers, you get rid of regulations, then
you become people who want Virginia to succeed. So my
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opponent says, now she's running on our successes. Wait, you're
a Democrat running on the successes that we created. You're
not going to keep them if you win, which she won't.
But if she were to win, she would dismantle and
destroy everything that we've created. So she's got the problem,
not me. We've been doing the work. Abigail, where have
you been?
Speaker 5 (20:42):
We're talking to win some seers. Lieutenant governor of Virginia
who hopes and should be the next governor. I saw
some of these, some of these statements from Abigail Spanberger,
who is the Democrat nominee on men and women's sports,
and she dodged the question like she was neo and
(21:03):
the matrix. I mean, she is doing everything she can
do to avoid saying what is very easy for everybody
ninety plus percent. I think of actual sports fans, even
two thirds of Democrats. Hey, men have no business in
women's sports. I saw your ad. I loved it. You're
nailing her on this, But isn't it about just how
out of touch she is with Virginia that she can't
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speak the truth on this.
Speaker 9 (21:27):
Well, everything about her is out of touch and none
of it makes any sense. You know, here are the
parents wanting to raise their boys to respect women, to
honor women. And then we have, for examples of Outen
County school Board who have disciplined the two young men
because they are uncomfortable being forced to undress in front
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of a female, and for that they are now labeled
sexual in their school records, sexual harassers. But this is
what their parents have been raising them.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
To be, to respect women.
Speaker 9 (22:02):
So you have now school boards who are against parents.
And Abigail Stanberger supports that because she voted for men
of biological men in women's sports. She voted for biological
men having to be able to undress in locker rooms
with our young girls. She voted for all this nonsense.
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And that's crazy because she's got three girls. What is
that what you want for your girl children? Parents don't
want that. I wouldn't want that. She needs to come
forward and defend defend her votes. She voted that way.
Virginia doesn't want that. And that's why I'm asking Virginia
for your vote this coming November so we can continue
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with common sense and not policies that tear us away
from our children.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Lieutenant Governor Wins some seis with us right now. This
story just broke on OutKick and it goes directly into
the state of Virginia, and I'm betting that Abigail Spanberger
is going to be dodging it. In addition to Roanoke
women swimmers and Louden County, as you mentioned, in twenty
twenty two, Virginia Tech female swimmers protested Leah Thomas, who
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was a man pretending to be a woman swimming for
the University of Pennsylvania women's swim team. They reached out
to ESPN begged for ESPN to tell the story of
their protest.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
ESPN refused to cover it.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
So it's not just Abigail Spanberger, it's also there have
been a lot of legacy media outlets that have refused
to speak truth here, and now they're trying to run
cover for your opponent. I think this is really significant.
I know it matters a great deal to our audience.
But how protected is the legacy media trying to keep
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your opponents so she doesn't have to answer questions about
her failures on this issue.
Speaker 9 (23:56):
Oh so they started a long time ago by not
even asking any questions of me. They would just pretend
I didn't exist. I mean I would walk by them
and they would not say a word. They would have
microphones in everybody else's face, and it was as if
I didn't exist.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
I mean I have been.
Speaker 9 (24:11):
The headliner, the keynote speaker at events. You know, I'm
a United States Marine Corps veteran, and I would be
at a Veterans Affairs honoring veterans events, and they would
not even say that I was there, even though I
was a keynote speaker. Never even said I was in
the audience, never even put my picture in, but always
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talked about everybody else around me. So they've been dismissing
me for some time now because they saw me coming
and they knew that she would be in trouble. Abigail
Spamberg and they want her to win. And you know,
here's a problem with that. I grew up partly in Jamaica,
which at the time was suffering from socialist policies and
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the media put their finger on the scale for other
people who eventually ended up destroying what little economy we
had because socialism, you know, you can't ever do it
right and put Jamaica's economy in a tail spin. And
I can't believe that that's the same thing I'm seeing here.
But we're going to win because you know, you can't
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hold righteousness down and when you're on the right side
of an issue where common sense is common sense, and
where I even have now Democrats who are coming up
to me and saying, I'm a Democrat, but I'm going
to vote for you because I don't want my girl
children having to undress in front of full frontal noodle boys.
I mean, think about we're creating sexual trauma. Sexual Do
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we not have enough trauma in the world.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
No, it's not fragious, Lieutenant Governor s Heares. I want
to ask if you do become the governor, and we're
obviously rooting for you, pushing for you, and hopeful that
this is going to happen. Virginia is such a great state,
the northern part of your state. Some of the politics
they are not my favorite. I'm just saying the right.
When you get in the the edge of DC, you
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got some people that well, you need to reach out
to them and convince them of the error of you know,
Arlington's ways. But Virginia otherwise a fantastic and wonderful state.
I actually have a family that was from Virginia and
still lives there. I want to know what you're going
to do if you become the governor. What will you
continue on from the very successful tenure of Governor Youngkin
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And what would be some of the things that the
great residents of the Commonwealth would be able to look
forward to.
Speaker 9 (26:28):
So one of the things I'm going to do, unlike
my opponent, is I'm going to continue to keep Virginia safe.
I'm going to support our law enforcement, Department of Corrections personnel.
We're not going to get rid of their qualified immunity.
We're not going to defund them. You know who will
My opponent, Abigail Stamberger, because she has said and she
has taken money from wait for it, that defund the
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police pack you can't take. She's taken thousands from them,
so you know, it's not like we don't know what
she's going to do. So we need our police, right,
we need everybody there because I can't even talk about
safety and security. I can't talk about jobs being created,
taxes being low if we're not safe and secure. Right,
(27:10):
So that's the first thing I'm going to do. And
you probably saw it yesterday where she came out and
said she was one of the first things, first things
that she was going to do is precisely get rid
of our safety and security because she's going to stop
all these ice detainers where we have now found four
thousand criminal illegal aliens in Virginia, including the number three
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top head of MS thirteen, and they are in various
states of incarceration and deportation. She's going to stop that.
I mean, who is this woman? Where did we get
her from? Well, she can't be governor. The next thing
people want is that they want their taxes back in
their pockets. And we've restored what nine billion dollars back
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into the pockets of Virginia's taxpayers. We have run a
ten billion dollars service plus for each of the for
the entire time that we've been in office, and we're
going to keep creating jobs. We're going to keep getting
rid of regulations. We're gonna have the energy that they need.
We're going to have shovel ready sights. We're going to
keep their inventories and their employees safe. Jobs will flood in,
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and well you will see. We will continue our great
economic successes, whereas my opponent is going to tax them
to death. She's going to put regulations back on them,
and she's going to force every single employee, even if
they don't want to, to join a union. That for me,
is an issue of liberty. So people know what they're
gonna get with me. It's all common sense, money in
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your pocket, jobs and safety. There you go. She doesn't
know how to do this. She was never there when
we were creating any of this good stuff. She was
in Congress taking stupid votes against us, and now she's
trying to backtrack, but she's not even back. She's like
plus to towny Phil. We haven't seen her in a lot.
Where have you been? What's the gill? You can't lead
from behind?
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Lieutenant Governor Sears, appreciate you very much, and please come
back and talk to us, either right before your victory
or right after.
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Speaker 5 (30:55):
Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We are
rolling through the Thursday edition of the program. A bunch
of comments rolling in. Let me read some of the emails. Tristan, Hey, guys,
longtime listener, first time reaching out. I'm forty years old,
gay mail. I agree one hundred percent that I do
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not identify with this current LGBTQ alphabet community I'm a
gay man. I don't agree at all with any of
the trans issues except for that they should be treated
like human beings. But I'm not going to be holding
onto their delusion one hundred percent agree. Another email just
heard you on the radio talking about how gay men
and women should push back, not just gay meen. I
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think Buck asked a question. I think it's a really
good question. How do we break sort of the national
fever of delusion as it pertains to the trans related issues?
And I said, we have to break identity politics overall,
so people stop thinking about this as a group issue
and just look at it individually, whether you're gay, straight, black, white, Asian, Hispanic,
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whatever you want to be. But I said, the gay
community breaking away from the alphabet mafia here and saying, hey,
this is not reflective of us. So, just to be clear,
you said it perfectly. Well, I appreciate that this isn't
our fight. Trans is not our fight. I'm a gay man.
God maybe that God does not make mistakes. Okay, Lisa
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in Florida, Now this maybe tough.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Lisa. You say your son is trans, So how old
is he now?
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Forty? When this started like seventeen.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Okay, so.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
This is and obviously, look, there are the vast majority
of trans kids out there are not going to turn
into school shooters, right, so we're not saying this is
directly connected. But when did your kid start to receive treatment.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
A treatment for wanting to become trans?
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Yeah, so well the school jumped in there and started
doing the counseling right there, the college he was going to,
and it only take they take two psychiatrists to get
it approved, and both of them have said, oh sure,
so seventeen eighteen nineteen, and then in the twenties, we
you know, changed first name, last name, not we, not me,
and the next thing I know, this is who I
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am and you have to call me this, which I
have to this day, not and still respected. You know,
the boundaries. That's your life, if that's what you want
to do. Okay. But at the same time, in his
curtains so radical and I got this whole schmill too,
even from him. Would you rather have a good child
or a transgender.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
The horrible blackmail line emotional blackmail line they use against
parents all across the country.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Lisa, do you feel like do you feel like.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
The college trends if you will your on is that
your belief or I mean, how much of a role
do you think they played.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
That that was if you could have seen the councor
that was in there with me, you know, And she's
trying to me, well, she says, she says, I'm like, no,
she is not, because I've seen her go from the
bedroom to the bathroom and drop the towel, so parts
are still where they are. But at the same time,
I told your screener, who's very compassionate, I told my
husband last night because it has gotten so far out
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of hand and it's so radical and his whole personality
and I mean, this is a kid that grew up
in you know, Christian church and enjoyed it and loved it.
Not anymore. And I don't know how to describe the feeling.
But I told my husband last night, I said.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
He has your son had the full Lisa, like the surgeries.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
No, what about drug treatment, the hormones all those things?
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Oh my goodness, yes, we've got boobs everything.
Speaker 5 (34:55):
Yes, So how has that changed his behavior? And I
guess that's part one, Part two. What would you want
other parents out there who might be dealing with this
to know from your perspective.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Well, it immediately started changing the personality and then actually
he even admitted it and it also started changing just
helped issues overall. But the other things don't buy into
that because it gets so far fetched and so deep
into it. I told my husband last night, I don't
know if he would actually you've gotten so bitter, and
they feed into it and make it worse. I don't
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know that he wouldn't go out and do something like this.
I can't tell you that, and it's horrible if this
is going to sound I don't know how to say this,
and this is going to sound horrible. But if I
thought that something would happen to my son committing suicide
and he would still go to heaven, I would be
better living with that than knowing that he went out
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and killed children or anybody for that matter. I don't
even know if that makes sense.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
I appreciate I appreciate you calling in and sharing this
because I think what it goes to is and thank
you so much, and certainly a lot of people are
are going to pray for you, Lisa. But I think
what it goes to buck is the emotional blackmail that
this puts families through that is rooted in a lie,
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and I just I'm sorry. I don't think that any
of these kids are getting better, right, That you're not
getting a better son or daughter than you already had,
And it's putting families through the ringer, right.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
I imagine if you sat down with somebody, Clay, who
was a serious drug addict, and their response to you
was either tell me that drugs are good, or I
might commit suicide. That's what's going on here. There's no
choice for these parents.
Welcome back in here too, Clay and Buck appreciate you
all being with us. We have some follow up on
yesterday's horrific shooting to bring to you. We just want
to make sure we're following the story closely, giving all
the details. And also, yes, of course this becomes an
issue of politics because the Democrats have rushed and blame
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gun control, have rushed to mock prayer, and of course
to make sure that nobody thinks this has anything to
do with a trans arrangement syndrome situation that they're very
clear on that one, and I wanted to spend some
time on what is true here and what is really
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going on with all of this. But I would first say, Clay,
fortunately my assessment that the news we were hearing out
of the hospitals was indicative of most, if not all
of there. I believe adults and children admitted for wounds
from the mass shooting, and there has been confirmation that
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they all made it. So that is a blessing. And
I would note a lot of you were praying. I
know you, we were praying here on this show while
we were waiting for more news of four who were
in critical condition. Those are the ones we were of
course most concerned about, and the others who were stable.
But they're all going home to their families. That has
(01:25):
been confirmed. You know, we did lose we did lose
two children to the horrific terror attack, trans terror attack
in Minneapolis. But we also have to take the good
news where it comes and how we can. And the
good news is that those who are admitted to the
hospital wounds all made it, and you know, their families
(01:46):
are clearly overjoyed at that news. Despite all the tragedy
and the horror of what happened, there can be some
light in the darkness. So I wanted to note that
because we were discussing that and that was an important
update that you should all know. Also, there are stories
of the bravery and the love for one another from
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the students from some of these teachers. Here is a
a fifth grader who says that his friend saved him
from this shooter play Cup one.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
It was like right beside me. I was like two
seats away from the stage glass windows, so they were
like the shots were like right next to me.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Scary. Yeah, he went under after that.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, I think I got a gunpowder on my neck. Yeah,
when you heard the shots.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
What went through your head?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I was like the first one, I was like, what
is that? I thought it was just something that I
heard it again, I just ran under the pew and
then I covered my head. My friend Victor like saved
me though, because he laid on top of me. But
he got hit. Your friend laid on top of you, Yeah,
and he got hit.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Is this something that you've practiced before?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah, we we practiced it like every month or I
don't know, but yeah, we've We've never practiced it.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
In the in the church though, His friend Clay covered
him with his own body during the shooting. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Look there.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
This is what I like to do when awful things happen.
I like to talk about the people who did the
right thing, and who were brave and who were courageous
and who made the choice to do everything that is,
uh what you would hope would happen. There's always people
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who run towards the sound of gunfire and do whatever
they can to protect innocent people, and I think their
stories oftentimes get lost because we focus too much on
the killer, meaning one of the reasons I try to avoid.
Sometimes people don't like it. They send an email like
why don't you been named the killer as often as
because the data reflects that a lot of people, in
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their sick minds are doing this to try to be famous.
That's what the Columbine guys did. They basically have created
an entire copycat arena of school shooters who all want
to be famous. They want their names to echo in infamy.
And I would rather tell the story as these kids'
stories come out. I would rather share stories of bravery
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and courage and yes, sometimes mournful loss of the victims
than give the person who is Frankly, I think evil
and certainly motivated by a desire to have their evil
acts not only create infamy for themselves, but motivate others
to engage in acts of evil. And so I think
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for all people of good conscience, it's important to shine
a bright light on positivity, good courage overcoming evil, as
it does every single day. So within that context, I
do think it's important to examine why this is happening.
What has occurred that in Nashville, Tennessee, my hometown, a
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trans person would take a gun in and try to
kill innocent kids at a school that she attended, and
at a trans man would take a gun into the
school that he attended and try to kill Christians. And
I want to play a couple of these cuts, Buck,
because I think they're important. You all out there listening
to us right now are quite well informed on this story.
(05:39):
But I always think it's important for you to think
about what would you know if you were just not
listening to this show. And maybe you're not on social
media and you're not following people like Mary Margaret Olahan,
who we just talked with. You're not following Buck, You're
not following me. You are just kind of out there
in legacy media land. What would you hear? I want
(05:59):
to play a couple of these cuts. This is ABC News.
ABC News just had to pay sixteen million dollars to
settle a lawsuit with President Trump over Joan Stepanopolis calling
him a rapist inaccurately on television multiple times during an
interview with Nancy Mays. This is to me, not an error.
(06:19):
This is I want to get this guy's name. Aaron
Katterski reporting about the Minnesota shooter. Now, remember the Minnesota
shooter wrote on his gun, kill President Trump. Kill President Trump.
He is the furthest thing from a Trump supporter. You
could be imagine you didn't know that, you hadn't seen
(06:40):
that photo, you didn't have this information. This is what
ABC News viewers heard last night, and there are millions
of them in the report about this shooting.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Listen.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
Twenty three year old Robin Westman was able to leave
what police called a video manifesto that they're now going
through to try and establish motive. We've also been going
through it and can tell you there are crude diagrams
of the church. There are also photos of the weapons,
and they include all sorts of writings, the names of
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past mass shooters, criticism of Israel, the name of President
Trump written on the guns.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
There are also racial slurs.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
Nihilistic statements, all painting the picture of a disturbed individual
who carried out this mass shooting on the first week
of school at the Annunciation Church in Minneapolis.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
Okay, how do you not say, if your goal is
to inform the public about the facts of a case,
how do you leave out that it was written kill
President Trump and add President Trump's name on the gun. Well,
if you're watching that, you could think, oh, that must
be a diehard Trump supporter. Oh this is one of
those crazy Trump supporters. He took a gun to a
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school and he shot up the place. I do think
that this is incredible important and also Buck, I wanted
to play this, and I know the news reports are
using the person's name.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
This is not us.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
But in order to play this audio, I think it's
important for you to hear what they're saying. Jake Tapper
on CNN, they are continuing to be concerned about using
the right pronoun for a terrorist killer. This is what
you would have heard if you were watching CNN yesterday
during their coverage.
Speaker 7 (08:23):
Cut five Minneapolis start Rebune just as another piece of
the puzzle as to who the shooter was, Minneapolis start
Abune says, according to court records, because there's been some
confusion about what the shooter's name was, Yes, Robin Westman's
mother applied to change your child's name in twenty nineteen.
It was at one point Robert Paul Westman. But since
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she identifies as a female and wants her name to
reflect that identification was underage, it's now Robin Westman.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
I mean, this is a mass delusion. When you have
a killer terrorist and on live television, you are worried
about using the direct pronoun of a trans terrorist. It's indefensible.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
It's indefensible, it's Cowardice Tapper, I'm not surprised this is
he's always maneuvering within the corporate layers at CNN, because
it's not the audience that he works for, it's the
bosses writing the checks that he tries to cater to.
And with that in mind, you have to remember that
some of these media institutions, certainly at CNN, there are
people who are keeping score on pronoun usage. Maybe they're
(09:28):
doing it quietly, Clay, but they tend to work in
hr other places in the building as well, and they
will remember if you use the wrong pronoun, even for
a child murdering psychopath like this guy was, they will
remember that you don't bend the knee, and they will
try to exact revenge retribution on you career wise later on.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
I still see people.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I just got an email a few days ago from
somebody about an unrelated matter to media. But you know,
an email with somebody else going to be work doing
work for me with pronouns in this in the signature. Yeah,
why why do you I want to ask this person?
I mean, I'll be honest, I want to ask why
why do you have pronouns in your in your email signature?
(10:14):
Do you think I don't know? You're clearly a woman.
Why are you telling me that you're a woman in
your email signature? Like I I'm I'm no longer just
passive about this. It's a bit like the mask thing.
By the way, I know you're gonna say, Buck, that's
a crazy turn.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
It's really not. With COVID, initially it.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Was just just to do it because because it'll do
something and it'll make people feel better. And then we said, ah,
I mean, I guess like some places, maybe I'll put
this on so you don't freak out. And then it
was you better do it or else I'll lock you up.
You better do this, or else I'll ban you from
public access to bars and restaurants and everything else. They're
buildings where you work. That's the same thing with a
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pronoun thing. It starts out it's, oh, it's just a courtesy,
and then once they get a critical mass, it's do
this or you lose your job. So don't ever fore
get the slippery slope is real. Slippery slope is almost undefeated,
and the slippery slope with his trans maadness stuff is
absolutely real and established, and finally it has started to
move in the other direction where yeah, you know, I'm
(11:15):
sick of saying it too. Of course you treat trans
people with kindness. They just treat them like human beings,
because they are human beings. But you know, Clay, if
I walked around telling everybody you have to call me Emperor,
Lord of the universe, sexton, I'm sorry. People don't have
to do that. That doesn't make them a bad person,
because I'm not Emperor, Lord of the Universe, sexton. And
just because somebody wants to demand something from you, it
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doesn't mean they can say, because of courtesy, you have
to go along with it. Never mind, as Trump says,
the seven foot guys were like, I want to play
women's basketball now.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
No, No, Why you don't get.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
To Why should you get to pick your pronouns anymore
than you get to pick your adjectives. Let me tell
you something may stun some of you.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
People call me.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
Some pretty tough things on social media. Some people are
even maybe even a little bit mean. I don't get
to say, hey, sorry, my preferred adjectives are handsome, brilliant,
Like I don't get to tell you how you define me. Well, right,
what if somebody, Clay, what if you were sitting down
(12:19):
with an interview and said, we'll take this in the
sports world for a second. You sat down with somebody
who is, you know, an NFL player, and he's like,
I would prefer that you refer to me as Heisman
Trophy winner so and so. Yeah, and you look at
him and you go, but you didn't win a Heisman Trophy.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Are you being discourteous or are you just not living
in a delusion?
Speaker 5 (12:37):
I think again, reasonable people have to stand up and
say we're not going to play this game anymore. And
even beyond that, how do the Democrats back out of this?
Speaker 4 (12:49):
By the way, how does that?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Because I think they're stuck. I think this is the
problem they've rout into. They they're just waiting until they
have enough power again to ram it all down our
throats again. That's the game. The game is not to
actually retreat.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
I'll give you my answer. I think gay people need
to say we're not a part of this group anymore.
And I know we got a lot of gay people
out there listening to us right now, and I know
some of you have felt this for some time. There
is a pretty big difference between saying, hey, I'm attracted
to the same sex and hey, I am a different.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Gender than what all of us know to be true.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
I'll even say, back in the day, back in we
had people transvestite, right like you dressed up potentially as
someone you weren't. You didn't claim you didn't claim that
you were actually that. And I think a lot of
gay people, frankly are looking around and saying like, hey,
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you know.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
I'm fine with the l's, the g's, the b's.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
This is that this is the Dave Chappelle sketch where
he got a lot of grief from the last I
think I think that to you answer your question, I
think that gay people have to start saying, hey, this
is not really our struggle. Our struggle was, Hey, we
want to be able to have basic human rights, We
want to be able to live as we believe we
should be able to live. But you don't have to
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have surgery to try to artificially create yourself if you
are gay. And I think a lot of gay people
just need to say there's a difference here. This whole
identity politics has created. Pardon the pun, a lot of
very strange bedfellows.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Right.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
A lot of black people out there are actually very
conservative and go to church all the time, and they're
looking around and they're like, this trans thing is crazy.
I don't think dudes should be able to win women's championships.
Why am I in the same party as them? I
think identity politics has to explode and all the individuals
have to make rational decisions regardless of your race, your gender,
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or your ethnicity. And you have to be willing to
speak truth. And a man is not a woman and
a woman is not a man. If they can get
you to lie about that, they can get you to
lie about anything. And they took advantage of kindness, particularly
of women. I'm sorry, women are kinder in general than men.
Notice men, there is no Dylan mulvaney. There's no man.
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There's no woman who used to be a man that
men are like, this is the man of the year.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
We just don't do it.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Women got taken advantage of I think women and gay
people need to say this is not right.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
We're done with it. That's my answer.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
So gold has been valuable for a long time. Think
about history, Think about what is the most basic unit
of money for thousands of years that people will consider
Oh well, gold, Gold has always been valid. If you
have gold coins, people will trade those for stuff because
gold is good and valuable. Now, look at the last
ten years, ten years. I just put this into an
(15:50):
a into AI to give me a sense of what
the numbers are. Gold has had about a one hundred
and eighty eight percent return over the last ten years.
That's pretty good, isn't it. In fact, over just the
last year, gold has gone up about forty percent. So
this is pretty straightforward, my friends. The thesis here is
gold is valuable. Gold over time increases in value, and
(16:11):
you should have some gold as part of your portfolio. Now,
I understand Trump's doing amazing things with the economy. It's
very easy to kind of rest on Trump's laurels here
and say, well, we're gonna look at the trade deals
and look at all these things.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Trump's only got a few years in office, and I'm
trying to get you prepared for your finances and your
future for ten, fifteen, twenty years from now, and gold
as a part of that plan just makes sense. A
part of the plant. It's not the whole planet's a
part of the plant. It's a way to balance your
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Welcome back in everybody to Clay and Buck.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
We are joined now by Lieutenant Governor Winsome Earl Sears,
the first woman elected governor, first black woman and female
veteran to hold statewide office in Virginia. A fantastic patriot
who is doing wonderful things in the great state of Virginia,
which is a place I've spent a tremendous amount of
time actually over the years. O, Tenant Governor, appreciate you
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being with us.
Speaker 9 (19:20):
Well, hello, and thank you for having me. Now, I
do have to correct you on one thing. I'm not
yet the first female governor. I'm the first female lieutenant governor.
That's a good thing too.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Oh sorry, well, yes, but you're going to be the
first female governor, right, tell us about it?
Speaker 9 (19:38):
Well, there, that is, yes, And it's why because we
have the common sense ideas, what do I be Well,
it's a good questions that I think I just did. Well,
it's because again, we have been able to present an
economy to the people of Virginia and they love it.
They love that we have created so many jobs. You know,
two hundred and seventy six thousand people working that aren't
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before we came in the office. We also have over
two hundred and fifty thousand job opening and then we've
created on top of that, fifteen thousand plus new business
startups never existed. How can you do that? Because you
get rid of barriers, you get rid of regulations, then
you become people who want Virginia to succeed. So my
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opponent says, now she's running on our successes. Wait, you're
a Democrat running on the successes that we created. You're
not going to keep them if you win, which she won't.
But if she were to win, she would dismantle and
destroy everything that we've created. So she's got the problem,
not me. We've been doing the work. Abigail, where have
you been?
Speaker 5 (20:42):
We're talking to win some seers. Lieutenant governor of Virginia
who hopes and should be the next governor. I saw
some of these, some of these statements from Abigail Spanberger,
who is the Democrat nominee on men and women's sports,
and she dodged the question like she was neo and
(21:03):
the matrix. I mean, she is doing everything she can
do to avoid saying what is very easy for everybody
ninety plus percent. I think of actual sports fans, even
two thirds of Democrats. Hey, men have no business in
women's sports. I saw your ad. I loved it. You're
nailing her on this, But isn't it about just how
out of touch she is with Virginia that she can't
(21:25):
speak the truth on this.
Speaker 9 (21:27):
Well, everything about her is out of touch and none
of it makes any sense. You know, here are the
parents wanting to raise their boys to respect women, to
honor women. And then we have, for examples of Outen
County school Board who have disciplined the two young men
because they are uncomfortable being forced to undress in front
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of a female, and for that they are now labeled
sexual in their school records, sexual harassers. But this is
what their parents have been raising them.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
To be, to respect women.
Speaker 9 (22:02):
So you have now school boards who are against parents.
And Abigail Stanberger supports that because she voted for men
of biological men in women's sports. She voted for biological
men having to be able to undress in locker rooms
with our young girls. She voted for all this nonsense.
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And that's crazy because she's got three girls. What is
that what you want for your girl children? Parents don't
want that. I wouldn't want that. She needs to come
forward and defend defend her votes. She voted that way.
Virginia doesn't want that. And that's why I'm asking Virginia
for your vote this coming November so we can continue
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with common sense and not policies that tear us away
from our children.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Lieutenant Governor Wins some seis with us right now. This
story just broke on OutKick and it goes directly into
the state of Virginia, and I'm betting that Abigail Spanberger
is going to be dodging it. In addition to Roanoke
women swimmers and Louden County, as you mentioned, in twenty
twenty two, Virginia Tech female swimmers protested Leah Thomas, who
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was a man pretending to be a woman swimming for
the University of Pennsylvania women's swim team. They reached out
to ESPN begged for ESPN to tell the story of
their protest.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
ESPN refused to cover it.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
So it's not just Abigail Spanberger, it's also there have
been a lot of legacy media outlets that have refused
to speak truth here, and now they're trying to run
cover for your opponent. I think this is really significant.
I know it matters a great deal to our audience.
But how protected is the legacy media trying to keep
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your opponents so she doesn't have to answer questions about
her failures on this issue.
Speaker 9 (23:56):
Oh so they started a long time ago by not
even asking any questions of me. They would just pretend
I didn't exist. I mean I would walk by them
and they would not say a word. They would have
microphones in everybody else's face, and it was as if
I didn't exist.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
I mean I have been.
Speaker 9 (24:11):
The headliner, the keynote speaker at events. You know, I'm
a United States Marine Corps veteran, and I would be
at a Veterans Affairs honoring veterans events, and they would
not even say that I was there, even though I
was a keynote speaker. Never even said I was in
the audience, never even put my picture in, but always
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talked about everybody else around me. So they've been dismissing
me for some time now because they saw me coming
and they knew that she would be in trouble. Abigail
Spamberg and they want her to win. And you know,
here's a problem with that. I grew up partly in Jamaica,
which at the time was suffering from socialist policies and
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the media put their finger on the scale for other
people who eventually ended up destroying what little economy we
had because socialism, you know, you can't ever do it
right and put Jamaica's economy in a tail spin. And
I can't believe that that's the same thing I'm seeing here.
But we're going to win because you know, you can't
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hold righteousness down and when you're on the right side
of an issue where common sense is common sense, and
where I even have now Democrats who are coming up
to me and saying, I'm a Democrat, but I'm going
to vote for you because I don't want my girl
children having to undress in front of full frontal noodle boys.
I mean, think about we're creating sexual trauma. Sexual Do
(25:37):
we not have enough trauma in the world.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
No, it's not fragious, Lieutenant Governor s Heares. I want
to ask if you do become the governor, and we're
obviously rooting for you, pushing for you, and hopeful that
this is going to happen. Virginia is such a great state,
the northern part of your state. Some of the politics
they are not my favorite. I'm just saying the right.
When you get in the the edge of DC, you
(26:01):
got some people that well, you need to reach out
to them and convince them of the error of you know,
Arlington's ways. But Virginia otherwise a fantastic and wonderful state.
I actually have a family that was from Virginia and
still lives there. I want to know what you're going
to do if you become the governor. What will you
continue on from the very successful tenure of Governor Youngkin
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And what would be some of the things that the
great residents of the Commonwealth would be able to look
forward to.
Speaker 9 (26:28):
So one of the things I'm going to do, unlike
my opponent, is I'm going to continue to keep Virginia safe.
I'm going to support our law enforcement, Department of Corrections personnel.
We're not going to get rid of their qualified immunity.
We're not going to defund them. You know who will
My opponent, Abigail Stamberger, because she has said and she
has taken money from wait for it, that defund the
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police pack you can't take. She's taken thousands from them,
so you know, it's not like we don't know what
she's going to do. So we need our police, right,
we need everybody there because I can't even talk about
safety and security. I can't talk about jobs being created,
taxes being low if we're not safe and secure. Right,
(27:10):
So that's the first thing I'm going to do. And
you probably saw it yesterday where she came out and
said she was one of the first things, first things
that she was going to do is precisely get rid
of our safety and security because she's going to stop
all these ice detainers where we have now found four
thousand criminal illegal aliens in Virginia, including the number three
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top head of MS thirteen, and they are in various
states of incarceration and deportation. She's going to stop that.
I mean, who is this woman? Where did we get
her from? Well, she can't be governor. The next thing
people want is that they want their taxes back in
their pockets. And we've restored what nine billion dollars back
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into the pockets of Virginia's taxpayers. We have run a
ten billion dollars service plus for each of the for
the entire time that we've been in office, and we're
going to keep creating jobs. We're going to keep getting
rid of regulations. We're gonna have the energy that they need.
We're going to have shovel ready sights. We're going to
keep their inventories and their employees safe. Jobs will flood in,
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and well you will see. We will continue our great
economic successes, whereas my opponent is going to tax them
to death. She's going to put regulations back on them,
and she's going to force every single employee, even if
they don't want to, to join a union. That for me,
is an issue of liberty. So people know what they're
gonna get with me. It's all common sense, money in
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your pocket, jobs and safety. There you go. She doesn't
know how to do this. She was never there when
we were creating any of this good stuff. She was
in Congress taking stupid votes against us, and now she's
trying to backtrack, but she's not even back. She's like
plus to towny Phil. We haven't seen her in a lot.
Where have you been? What's the gill? You can't lead
from behind?
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Lieutenant Governor Sears, appreciate you very much, and please come
back and talk to us, either right before your victory
or right after.
Speaker 9 (29:09):
You can choose whensofgovernor dot com. Please go to my
website whin some forgovernor dot com and help me.
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Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We are
rolling through the Thursday edition of the program. A bunch
of comments rolling in. Let me read some of the emails. Tristan, Hey, guys,
longtime listener, first time reaching out. I'm forty years old,
gay mail. I agree one hundred percent that I do
(31:18):
not identify with this current LGBTQ alphabet community I'm a
gay man. I don't agree at all with any of
the trans issues except for that they should be treated
like human beings. But I'm not going to be holding
onto their delusion one hundred percent agree. Another email just
heard you on the radio talking about how gay men
and women should push back, not just gay meen. I
(31:41):
think Buck asked a question. I think it's a really
good question. How do we break sort of the national
fever of delusion as it pertains to the trans related issues?
And I said, we have to break identity politics overall,
so people stop thinking about this as a group issue
and just look at it individually, whether you're gay, straight, black, white, Asian, Hispanic,
(32:06):
whatever you want to be. But I said, the gay
community breaking away from the alphabet mafia here and saying, hey,
this is not reflective of us. So, just to be clear,
you said it perfectly. Well, I appreciate that this isn't
our fight. Trans is not our fight. I'm a gay man.
God maybe that God does not make mistakes. Okay, Lisa
(32:28):
in Florida, Now this maybe tough.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Lisa. You say your son is trans, So how old
is he now?
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Forty? When this started like seventeen.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Okay, so.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
This is and obviously, look, there are the vast majority
of trans kids out there are not going to turn
into school shooters, right, so we're not saying this is
directly connected. But when did your kid start to receive treatment.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
A treatment for wanting to become trans?
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Yeah, so well the school jumped in there and started
doing the counseling right there, the college he was going to,
and it only take they take two psychiatrists to get
it approved, and both of them have said, oh sure,
so seventeen eighteen nineteen, and then in the twenties, we
you know, changed first name, last name, not we, not me,
and the next thing I know, this is who I
(33:27):
am and you have to call me this, which I
have to this day, not and still respected. You know,
the boundaries. That's your life, if that's what you want
to do. Okay. But at the same time, in his
curtains so radical and I got this whole schmill too,
even from him. Would you rather have a good child
or a transgender.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
The horrible blackmail line emotional blackmail line they use against
parents all across the country.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Lisa, do you feel like do you feel like.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
The college trends if you will your on is that
your belief or I mean, how much of a role
do you think they played.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
That that was if you could have seen the councor
that was in there with me, you know, And she's
trying to me, well, she says, she says, I'm like, no,
she is not, because I've seen her go from the
bedroom to the bathroom and drop the towel, so parts
are still where they are. But at the same time,
I told your screener, who's very compassionate, I told my
husband last night because it has gotten so far out
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of hand and it's so radical and his whole personality
and I mean, this is a kid that grew up
in you know, Christian church and enjoyed it and loved it.
Not anymore. And I don't know how to describe the feeling.
But I told my husband last night, I said.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
He has your son had the full Lisa, like the surgeries.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
No, what about drug treatment, the hormones all those things?
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Oh my goodness, yes, we've got boobs everything.
Speaker 5 (34:55):
Yes, So how has that changed his behavior? And I
guess that's part one, Part two. What would you want
other parents out there who might be dealing with this
to know from your perspective.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Well, it immediately started changing the personality and then actually
he even admitted it and it also started changing just
helped issues overall. But the other things don't buy into
that because it gets so far fetched and so deep
into it. I told my husband last night, I don't
know if he would actually you've gotten so bitter, and
they feed into it and make it worse. I don't
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know that he wouldn't go out and do something like this.
I can't tell you that, and it's horrible if this
is going to sound I don't know how to say this,
and this is going to sound horrible. But if I
thought that something would happen to my son committing suicide
and he would still go to heaven, I would be
better living with that than knowing that he went out
(35:55):
and killed children or anybody for that matter. I don't
even know if that makes sense.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
I appreciate I appreciate you calling in and sharing this
because I think what it goes to is and thank
you so much, and certainly a lot of people are
are going to pray for you, Lisa. But I think
what it goes to buck is the emotional blackmail that
this puts families through that is rooted in a lie,
(36:23):
and I just I'm sorry. I don't think that any
of these kids are getting better, right, That you're not
getting a better son or daughter than you already had,
And it's putting families through the ringer, right.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
I imagine if you sat down with somebody, Clay, who
was a serious drug addict, and their response to you
was either tell me that drugs are good, or I
might commit suicide. That's what's going on here. There's no
choice for these parents.
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