April 28, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show focuses on the Trump Administration's immigration policies and the ongoing efforts to secure the U.S. borders. The hosts discuss the administration's initiative to display posters of criminal illegal aliens on the White House lawn, emphasizing the seriousness of the largest deportation campaign in American history. Karoline Leavitt, the White House Press Secretary, highlights the success of Operation Tidal Wave, which resulted in nearly 800 arrests in its first four days.
The conversation shifts to the Biden Administration's immigration policies, with Tom Homan, criticizing Biden for intentionally un-securing the border. The hosts explore the implications of Biden's policies, including the influx of illegal immigrants and the challenges of deportation. They discuss the long-term impact of these policies, including the strain on national security and the potential for a permanent Democratic majority due to the demographic changes.
The hosts also address the media's portrayal of deportations, particularly the misleading headlines about deporting children. Secretary of State Marco Rubio's defense of the administration's actions is highlighted, clarifying that children are not being deported separately from their parents. The discussion includes the legal and logistical challenges of deporting the estimated 20 million illegal immigrants currently in the U.S., emphasizing the need for legislative action to prevent future administrations from reversing immigration policies.
The hour concludes with lighter topics, including Clay's personal anecdotes about wearing Crockett Coffee gear and a humorous exchange about his son's comments. The hosts also touch on the NFL draft and the controversy surrounding the late selection of Shedeur Sanders, with allegations of racism being discussed.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. Let's talk
about what's going on right now with the administration and
the agenda of securing our borders, enforcing our immigration laws,
and making America safe again. You will see that over
the weekend there were a number of stories that deal
(00:20):
specifically with immigration. One Clay mentioned, which is that the
White House has put up posters of criminal illegal alien
which are set up on the White House lawn with
big photos. So in the background of the hits that
reporters do at the White House, they will see some
of these posters, Clay, which is one way I think
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of helping to get the message across that the administration
is taking this quite seriously. The administration has no intentions
of backing off of this policy and is really just
in the opening phases of it. Here's White House Press
Secretary of Caroline Levitt. This has cut three who are
saying exactly that this is just the beginning of what
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they have planned play.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
We are in the beginning stages of carrying out the
largest deportation campaign in American history. Over this past weekend,
it was announced that through Operation Title Wave, a joint
effort between ICE Miami and Florida law enforcement agencies. Nearly
eight hundred illegal aliens were arrested during the first four
days alone. Operation Tidle Wave is a preview as what
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is to come around this country, large scale operations that
employ our state and local enforcement partners to get criminal,
illegal aliens off our streets. As always, President Chump and
our entire administration are grateful for the courageous law enforcement
officers who are putting their lives on the line every
single day to protect their fellow Americans and to keep
our countries safe.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Clay, this is, as she said, just the early stages
of this. There's going to be a whole lot more.
I'll talk in a moment here. We can get into
the storyline that they put to Marc or Rubio on
the Sunday Shows that you're deported like a five year
old with cancer, and we'll discuss the response to that. Actually,
(02:09):
they deported a woman, a mother who's not supposed to
be here, and they let her take her child with her,
Which is what is the alternative to that?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Right?
Speaker 1 (02:18):
The alternative is you're going to deport the mother and
the child is going to stay in America. Then we'd
be accused of like federal government kidnapping or something. But
we can get back into that here in a moment.
First off, I thought this was a really important observation.
I know you just talked to Tom Holm and Clay
last week, you had an interview with him in DC.
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This is a guy who understands the moment and knows
what is necessary here for the country to move forward
and for the right things to happen on immigration. And
he's been doing this a really long time, which gives
him the perspective of somebody who can say without question
that this is meaning. What Biden did was the biggest
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betrayal of the American people and our sovereignty on the
immigration issue ever ever, certainly in his lifetime. And I
think you would have to argue that we have ever
seen this has cut six. He says, he worked for
six presidents, and what Biden did unprecedented. Play it.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
I worked for six presidents, starting with Ronald Reagan. Every
president ever worked for it. Took border security seriously, because
you can't have national security if you don't have strong
border security. Even President Obama and President Clinton took some
steps to secure the border because they understood national security.
It was important Joe Biden was the first president in
the history of this nation who came in office an
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unsecured a border on purpose. That's just a fact. We
handed the Biden administration after President Trump's first administration. We
handed the Biden administration the most secure border in my lifetime,
and he unsecured it on purpose.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
But just like with Biden cover up, it wasn't a mistake,
it was a decision.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
I would like to know who made the decision because
this is why I think Biden's decrepitude matters, because ultimately,
all you're doing when you elect a president is saying,
I trust this person to make some of the most
difficult judgment calls in the world. This person is who
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I want sitting there when. And you know this, Buck,
because you've made these arguments in the Oval office when
you were still working with the CIA, where you have
two really smart guys or gals sitting across from you,
arguing two different perspectives, and ultimately you have to make
the call as to which one of them has the
(04:47):
better argument, who has the best judgment Who actually made
these choices inside of the Biden White House, And I
would like that to be known because I would like
for that person to answer for opening the border wide
open like this for instance, Buck, do you think they
just miscalculated and didn't realize how many illegals were going
(05:11):
to come across because they suddenly panicked, obviously in an
election year, but by that point there had already been
ten million illegals come across the border. What was their
ultimate aim and how did they think it was going
to play out? Because even by standards of Blacks border security,
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they took it to a level we had never seen before,
and unfortunately all of us are going to be paying
the price for that failure for years and years to come.
I think that their plan was the one to two
punch of the flood the zone. Flood America with as
many illegals as fast as you possibly can, so that
the weight of the issue then becomes unavoidable, and there's
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a narrative of we have no choice but in the
second Democrat term, which they were expecting for Biden and.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I guess maybe even for Kamalaw but they thought they
would get because of the problem or remember now it
seems crazy. They brought criminal four different criminal cases against
Donald Trump. They thought they had him finished off by
making him the first criminal president in history. Right, This
was the whole plan. So they assumed, I think Clay,
they would have had four more years and then that
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Democrat president would have even via executive means if necessary,
you know, finding some way to give them the document,
you know, whatever it is that they had to do
to effectuate a mass amnesty. I truly believe that that
was the plan because Tom Holman, I've never heard Tom
Holman say something that wasn't straight on the money on
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this issue. And when he says, I worked for six presidents.
Biden's team did this intentionally. It's gospel. They did this
on purpose. And the only way they would do it
on purpose is that they they had a plan beyond
just letting them in, which was to make them stay
forever and create a permanent Democrat majority in the process,
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people dependent on the state, people who are going to
view the Democrat Party as their saviors, as you know,
bringing them into the country. And that was the game.
And Donald Trump has saved the country from this. But
it is a reprieve. It is not salvation. It is
four years to figure out what to do about it. Right,
It's not like the issue is gone.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
And the problem that we have, and this is what
I talked about with Tom Homan and this is I
think the biggest story structurally associated with the border. Our
laws allowed Biden to let in ten million illegals and
there was virtually no stopping it. Now those ten million
illegals are here. Tom Homan Buck said that he thinks
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the number of illegals in the country is roughly twenty million.
How do you get those people out? Because right now,
the laws that we have to put in play that
would allow us to deport those people are incredibly time consuming.
And so the best possible case scenario is you can
deport about three hundred and fifty thousand people a year
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right now under the pace with which we are deporting people.
If that's true, If that's the number, it would take
thirty years roughly to get all of the illegals that
Biden let in out of the country. And that's assuming
that we keep the same protocols in place. This is
why we have to change the way that we deport
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and this is why I think there was a cold
calculus behind the Democrat decision. It was once they get
in here, it's almost impossible for them to get them out,
and that's a problem because we have a different standard
for illegals getting in than we have for getting the
illegals out, and that disconnect means democrats are playing the
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long game.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
They feel like those people are never going to leave.
We're never going to be able to force him out.
I mean, look at what this judge did in Milwaukee,
which got a lot of attention, and we talked about
it on Friday, violating the law as a judge and
thwarting the efforts of immigration enforcement officers because you're so convinced,
(09:17):
as somebody who's supposed to be not just knowledgeable in
the law, but administering justice through the law day in
and day out, that this country has no right to
have the immigration laws that it does, and that you should,
as a judge, supersede those laws. Somehow there's a greater
moral authority. I mean, this judge, this woman in judicial robes,
(09:38):
you get the sense she thinks she's operating in some
higher moral plane, you know, like like this is going
going back in our country's history, and she's somebody who's
you know, operating the underground railroad or something and letting
people get to freedom. You say to yourself hold on
a second, is is that really what you do? You
think that our immigration laws deeply immoral? Because if Democrats
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really think that the same way that obviously slavery was
deeply immoral, they should make that case openly. The problem
is if they made that case openly play, then they'd
be telling everybody in this country, America has a claim
to your labor, to your money, to your life, perhaps
even if you are called into service if this country
were attacked as an American. But anybody can come here
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whenever they want and stay as long as they want,
and they can live by a separate set of rules
as long as they didn't start out as an American.
That's a just regime. That's fair. You're talking about the
dissolution of the country over a not too long a timeline.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
And the question is the only thing that makes sense.
Remember when you weren't even allowed to say this, I
think they tried to. The only thing that makes sense
is they think these people are going to become citizens,
and if they become citizens, they're going to vote Democrat.
That's the only argument for why this is occurring. That
they are playing the long range generational game of these
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illegal immigrants are going to come into the country and
they are going to give us political power also. And
this is something else I would encourage the Trump administration
to do. I know, we have the birthright citizenship case. Buck,
what's your take on this, because I think it's the
other aspect of this that's really important that doesn't get
discussed enough. For purposes of the census for the House
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of Representatives, they count illegal immigrants as part of the
overall seven hundred thousand ish people that each congressman represents.
By doing so, Democrats are stealing about ten House seats
because even though these theoretical illegal immigrants can't vote, they
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count for purposes of census apportionment. And so if you
are a sanctuary city and you have two hundred thousand
illegal immigrants in your in your district, you have five
hundred thousand legal citizens, based on my understanding of how
the law is being applied right now, two hundred thousand
non citizens. But they would still combine for a district
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of seven hundred thousand, and that's a in a basically
roughly even house, that's a benefit of about ten seats
in the House.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
California, in our youth even was a pretty reliably read
Republican stronghold of all the best things about America, and
the Democrats let the place get completely flooded with illegals.
They flipped it to a forever Democrat supermajority and now
still a beautiful state. We love our California listeners, thank
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you for you know, maintaining sanity behind enemy lines. It
is run by progressive lunatics, and now they're losing hundreds
of thousands of people a year or over a course
of years because they can't stand to be there anymore.
It's just the microcosm of what they want to do
to America. Same thing. Flood zone with illegals, people who
are going to need stif eight resources and help. They're
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going to make sure that the Democrats day in power
forever and then and then it's, you know, the whole
country gets run like California from the federal level. That's
the whole plan, right, I mean, I don't think it's
more complicated than that.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
They want to use the California model for America. I
think that's totally true. I think that's a good analogy.
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Speaker 5 (15:11):
Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton show, My ten
year old getting lit up. A bunch of you finding
pictures of Elon in his company's gear. So Dad is
way cooler than the ten year old may have wanted
to argue. For those of you didn't know, I'm in
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(15:33):
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actually that's kind of a loser thing to do, dad.
Try to try hard, tryhard, unk is what I was called.
The Travis Boys do not let up, as I hope
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your kids do not either when it comes to letting
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and there are ample pictures now circulating in my mentions
of Elon wearing his gear as I had argued with
my ten year old that he was likely to do buck.
I do think the border right now, the decision to
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put up those one hundred images outside the poster board
basically on the White House lawn in honor of one
hundred days. Do you think that MSNBC is going to
say we have decided to put up a new backdrop
rather than this is what I think they're going to do,
rather than allow for their stand ups. You know, when
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they're standing there with the White House in the background.
I bet they take a picture of the White House
before they had those signs up and say we will
not allow the White House to propagandize us, and so
we're just going to put up a still photo in
the background rather than allow those photos to be there.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
I think this is the next step. But then why
be on the White House law.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
I'm not saying that it makes any sense at all,
but I'm saying I bet that that maybe CNN would
be willing to do it. I bet MSNBC will be
doing it very shortly.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I I do love that the troll level is ten
out of ten here by making them do something that
shows because remember, these are violent, these are bad as
Trump would say, these are bad ombrace that they have
photos of in the background that have been deported. I mean,
these are people that are dangerous to be in any
community in this country. And they're not Americans, so they
should go back to their country of origin, which should
(17:33):
handle them. It's not our They are not our problem anymore.
They should never have been our problem. But I agree
with you that they're going to have to figure out
I don't know enough about this. Maybe we can invite
somebody on who's one of the White House uh, you
know stand up reporters. You know they do these stand
up shoots there, because yeah, they're gonna have to find
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back into Clay and Buck. Here, just an update on this.
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I talked to you about this last week. India and
Pakistan could go to war any minute. That could happen.
It would probably be an incursion in part of you know,
in a limited battlefield space. But these are two countries
with considerable militaries that hate each other and have nuclear weapons,
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and they've been gearing up for this kind of a
fight for a long time. So just something worth noting.
India has cut off water from the Indus River to Pakistan,
which is necessary for all of its irrigation for agriculture,
which is a huge part of the economy, and Pakistan
needs to feed itself. But Pakistan, according to India, was
(19:41):
behind this terrorist attack in Kashmir that killed dozens of people.
I think it was twenty six people killed, and they
have had enough. So yeah, it is things are escalating
over there. We will continue to keep an eye on that.
I was thinking about it also because Marco Rubio over
the weekend was on the Sunday shows, and I think,
(20:02):
you know, Rubio, you got to get this guy a
lot of credit. He had a tough campaign against Trump
in twenty sixteen, and now he has become really one
of the in the early days here one of the
indispensable members of this Trump cabinet and has not missed
a step. From what I can see, is one of
the he got a one hundred or ninety nine. Maybe
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there was somebody who's gone that day, but basically everybody
in the Senate voter for his confirmation, even as Democrat colleagues.
And you don't hear any you don't hear any blunders. Really,
you don't hear any criticism of Marco from anybody who
knows anything. You only hear people talking about how this
is a role that he has. Really he's really kind
of grown into the role I feel like, or even
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risen to this occasion as Secretary of State and doing
a very strong job. Let's get into some of what
they tried to go at him with here, Clay over
the weekend. First off, I mentioned this in the first hour,
but there are these stories about deportations of people who
have children and the children go with them. And guess
what the media says, we're deporting children, right, This is
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how and Clay, this is what we thought all along.
You know, the MS thirteen gang member thing is a
tougher that's a tougher field to plow right. That's a
tougher situation here. But the kids, abuela, you know, whoever
it is. You know, that's where you start to say, Okay,
they're pulling on people's heartstrings here.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
Yes, I think this is where they miscalculated, Buck, because
they should have waited till a story like this as
opposed to trying to make a Breio Garcia the face
of everything wrong with Trump's deportation. Now they pivoted, I
think because they're recognizing, hey, maybe a wife beating, human trafficking,
illegal gang member allegedly. We know he was illegal, but
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all those other things there's ample evidence of as well,
was not the guy we should have made the focal
point of our entire opposition to the immigration policy. So
they now, I think Buck are trying to pivot because
they're recognizing that that was a wad strategy. Yes, here
is Ruby though, talking about what really happened, and he's
straight up saying media is no surprise, media is lying
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to you about the deportation of children.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Play twenty four.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
That's a misleading headline. Okay, three US citizens ages four,
seven and two were not deported their mothers, who are
legally in this country were deported. The children went with
their mothers. If those children are US citizens, they can
come back into the United States. So there's their father
or someone here who wants to assume them.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
But ultimately who.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Was deported was their mother. Who's their mothers who were
here illegally. The children just went with their mothers. But
they wasn't like you guys make it sound like ice
agents kick down the door and grabbed the two year
old and threw them on an airplane. That's misleading. That's
just not true.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
And that's the point, right, they were misleading on purpose.
They're deporting US citizen children. Well, the alternative would be
sending the mom out of the country, and then the
story would be they're separating families. They're taking small children
and not letting them ever see their mothers again, because
you know, okay, so do we want family, you know,
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family staying together or not.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
This is also the challenge with birthright citizenship at some level,
and this is why it has to be addressed. And
this is why I said I would layer on top
of it the fact that the birthright citizenship has to
be addressed with larger questions about American immigration policy. But
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why in the world. Are we allowing people who commit
crimes to be here illegally to then be able to
have children that become American citizens most of the universe
buck You don't get to commit one crime and then
layer it with a benefit. And this would be an analogy. Right,
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you don't get to and this is serious, right, But
if you commit a crime and someone dies, right, you
don't get to then get the life insurance policy.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Right.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
If they can prove that you committed a crime in
order to get the benefit, you lose your ability to
the benefit.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Why would we allow? This is very.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
Logical to me, and of the much of the law
would agree with me. You don't get the benefit of
a crime. But in the case of illegal immigrants coming here,
they do get the benefit of the crime, which is
they're here, they shouldn't be here, and then they have
a child and so their illegal act has led to
a benefit being conveyed to them. Why in the world
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is that remotely legal? And so again, I know the
Supreme Court's going to hear it. I think there are
many complicating aspects of birthright citizenship, but ultimately we're talking
about deportations.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Now. The big challenge is.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
Republicans who want to deport are not going to be
in power for the next thirty years.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
I'd love for that to be the case. Not going
to happen.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
There will be Democrats, And when those Democrats come in Buck,
I think there's a very strong likelihood that, like Biden,
they just open the border wide open again and ten
million more illegals come in and the Darien Gap is
flooded again. And this is the reality. And a lot
of people in Latin America and around the world know
the wait, we saw it happen when the guy come
in with the Biden t shirt on. Remember, as soon
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as he won, Biden wants us to come. They understand
incentive structure jobs are a tough incentive to eliminate because
it's a sign of how good and vibrant our economy is.
But birthright citizenship it shouldn't exist. We really have to
have a more honest conversation about this, because you're encouraging
people to commit crimes by giving them a benefit as
a result of committing that crime.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I think it's very important to remember all of the
things that come along with the mass of illegal entry
into the country. We were talking about yes sovereignty. Yes,
the social and political fabric of our country being stretched
to the breaking point by people arriving who have all
of the same claims to this country according to Democrats,
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as those who are here and those who have built
the country, and those who are actual Americans. But beyond that,
all you have to do is go talk to anybody
in border patrol. They'll tell you because of the overwhelming
numbers at the border, they couldn't they couldn't even begin
to put a dent in the fentanyl importation, you know,
illegal fentanyl trade into the country, which is killing large
(26:27):
numbers of Americans. And remember, for the fentanyl that causes
overdoses is also causing addiction, which is destroying families and
job loss, and causing crime from addicts wanting to go
out and feed the habit and destroying neighborhoods because of
the consolidation of the attics in certain areas of cities.
I mean, you know, it's it's all of this that happens,
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and the border plays directly into all of it. Right.
There are people who are oding, there are criminals who
are stealing. There are these things that are happening in
Chicago because of our wide open border in El Paso
and McCallen, and you know, not anymore but under Biden. Right,
So there's all of this stuff that happens because of
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the decision. As we've been talking about, the decision that
Biden made was a decision to bring all these secondary
second order effects, right, these other things that come forward
that are really bad, and people need to understand it's
really bad for the American people. And this is why
what Trump is doing. There's so much that comes from this.
(27:33):
It's almost like broken windows policing in a city, to
all of a sudden, the businesses come back. And I
live this in New York City, right, broken windows policing,
the Giuliani miracle. All of a sudden, you know, women
are jogging at night and they feel safe, and new
businesses are opening, and real estate development happens. When you
don't have a wide open border, all of a sudden,
there's more resources to go after the cartels, not as
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many overdoses, not as much organized drug crime in cities,
and so on and so forth. There's so much that
comes from this. I would also I think this is important.
I bet you get these emails in these comments and
these reach outs to. On this front, there's a different
way of defining deportation because every time I say, hey,
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three hundred and fifty thousand, that's roughly the pace. I
hope we can increase it. But obviously that's a pinprick
of the ten million illegals that came in. People will
send me links and they'll say, oh, that's not true.
So and so deported this number a lot of times historically,
meaning in the last twenty five or thirty years, The
way deportation has been counted is people being rejected at
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the border. That is different than people who have entered
the country and are then sent out. A lot of
times when they say, oh, Obama was deporter in chief,
according to what I've been told, that's because there were
people being rejected trying to enter the country, which was
counted as a deportation. What we're talking about is there
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are twenty million illegals physically in.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
Our country right now. That's according to Tom Homan, roughly
twenty million. Over ten million of those came in during
the four years that Biden was here. In order to
get those twenty million out, you have to physically get
them here. There's two ways, right They could lead voluntarily,
which hopefully maybe some are starting to do, although Tom
Holman told me the numbers reflect maybe around five thousand
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that they know of deciding to go back. Otherwise, you
have to get these people, gather them and take them
out of the country, which is very time consuming, which
is very costly, and right now we're on a pace
to do about three hundred and fifty thousand of those
a year. You do the math, and even if you
did three hundred and fifty thousand of those for a
year long into the future, you're talking about needing thirty
(29:50):
years in order. And that's assuming no new illegals are
coming in. You're talking about thirty years to get those
people out of the country. Democrats know that that is
highly unlikely because again, if they win elections, they're going
to add in millions more. That's what they have put
the roadblock in. That's why they're doing it.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
So I remember doing shows on this clay a decade ago,
and it was so dishonest what they were doing at
the time. But what you mentioned is absolutely true, which
is that while they were saying this is around twenty fourteen,
so Obama's turned you know, this is when they were
trying to get the amnesty bill through. They're saying, Obama
is the deporter in chief. Look at these deportation numbers.
(30:28):
He takes the border seriously. The whole thing was a ruse.
It was a fraud. And what they did was they
changed the official statistic. Instead of what had been just
termed catch and release and not counted in the figures,
which is, you get caught of the border, they put
you on a bus, and you're back across the border,
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end of story. Anybody that fell into that category was
now considered a quote deportation. Meanwhile, this is the other
part of it. I know you articulated this. The actual
number of peace people who were in the American interior,
not at the border, who were being deported year in
and year out under the Obama administration up to twenty
fourteen when they were trying to do this cratered down
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fifty percent, give or take. So they just decided to
stop enforcing immigration law in America and change the way
that they counted the day to day border patrol operations
at the border to make it seem like they were
doing a job that they weren't actually doing it all
classic Obama that was the whole move, and you know, sir,
(31:34):
people figure that out, though, I will say Republicans at
that time lit up the congressional switchboards and people realized
that the amnesty bill was a total disaster, in part
because when this swindle came out, everyone goes, oh, so
you're just lying to us, You're just and all we're
going to get is amnesty. No, no enforcement's going to
really happen, which was true.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
And again this is where I would say Congress does
need to act because we at least need to try
to put in place opportunities to stop the next Democrat
president from coming in and doing exactly what Joe Biden did,
which was just get his pen out, reverse every policy
that was in place with Trump, and wide open the borders.
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We need to try and stop that from becoming a possibility.
If who knows, AOC is suddenly god forbid elected president
and then gets stakes the oath of office in twenty
twenty nine, do you think she wouldn't just wide open
the border as soon as she got there.
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involved in currently sitting in positions of power inside of
the administration not possible. But right now, on the one
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that still to come. Thanks for hanging with us here
on the Monday edition of Playing Buck
All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. Let's talk
about what's going on right now with the administration and
the agenda of securing our borders, enforcing our immigration laws,
and making America safe again. You will see that over
the weekend there were a number of stories that deal
(00:20):
specifically with immigration. One Clay mentioned, which is that the
White House has put up posters of criminal illegal alien
which are set up on the White House lawn with
big photos. So in the background of the hits that
reporters do at the White House, they will see some
of these posters, Clay, which is one way I think
(00:43):
of helping to get the message across that the administration
is taking this quite seriously. The administration has no intentions
of backing off of this policy and is really just
in the opening phases of it. Here's White House Press
Secretary of Caroline Levitt. This has cut three who are
saying exactly that this is just the beginning of what
(01:05):
they have planned play.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
We are in the beginning stages of carrying out the
largest deportation campaign in American history. Over this past weekend,
it was announced that through Operation Title Wave, a joint
effort between ICE Miami and Florida law enforcement agencies. Nearly
eight hundred illegal aliens were arrested during the first four
days alone. Operation Tidle Wave is a preview as what
(01:27):
is to come around this country, large scale operations that
employ our state and local enforcement partners to get criminal,
illegal aliens off our streets. As always, President Chump and
our entire administration are grateful for the courageous law enforcement
officers who are putting their lives on the line every
single day to protect their fellow Americans and to keep
our countries safe.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Clay, this is, as she said, just the early stages
of this. There's going to be a whole lot more.
I'll talk in a moment here. We can get into
the storyline that they put to Marc or Rubio on
the Sunday Shows that you're deported like a five year
old with cancer, and we'll discuss the response to that. Actually,
(02:09):
they deported a woman, a mother who's not supposed to
be here, and they let her take her child with her,
Which is what is the alternative to that?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Right?
Speaker 1 (02:18):
The alternative is you're going to deport the mother and
the child is going to stay in America. Then we'd
be accused of like federal government kidnapping or something. But
we can get back into that here in a moment.
First off, I thought this was a really important observation.
I know you just talked to Tom Holm and Clay
last week, you had an interview with him in DC.
(02:42):
This is a guy who understands the moment and knows
what is necessary here for the country to move forward
and for the right things to happen on immigration. And
he's been doing this a really long time, which gives
him the perspective of somebody who can say without question
that this is meaning. What Biden did was the biggest
(03:05):
betrayal of the American people and our sovereignty on the
immigration issue ever ever, certainly in his lifetime. And I
think you would have to argue that we have ever
seen this has cut six. He says, he worked for
six presidents, and what Biden did unprecedented. Play it.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
I worked for six presidents, starting with Ronald Reagan. Every
president ever worked for it. Took border security seriously, because
you can't have national security if you don't have strong
border security. Even President Obama and President Clinton took some
steps to secure the border because they understood national security.
It was important Joe Biden was the first president in
the history of this nation who came in office an
(03:44):
unsecured a border on purpose. That's just a fact. We
handed the Biden administration after President Trump's first administration. We
handed the Biden administration the most secure border in my lifetime,
and he unsecured it on purpose.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
But just like with Biden cover up, it wasn't a mistake,
it was a decision.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
I would like to know who made the decision because
this is why I think Biden's decrepitude matters, because ultimately,
all you're doing when you elect a president is saying,
I trust this person to make some of the most
difficult judgment calls in the world. This person is who
(04:27):
I want sitting there when. And you know this, Buck,
because you've made these arguments in the Oval office when
you were still working with the CIA, where you have
two really smart guys or gals sitting across from you,
arguing two different perspectives, and ultimately you have to make
the call as to which one of them has the
(04:47):
better argument, who has the best judgment Who actually made
these choices inside of the Biden White House, And I
would like that to be known because I would like
for that person to answer for opening the border wide
open like this for instance, Buck, do you think they
just miscalculated and didn't realize how many illegals were going
(05:11):
to come across because they suddenly panicked, obviously in an
election year, but by that point there had already been
ten million illegals come across the border. What was their
ultimate aim and how did they think it was going
to play out? Because even by standards of Blacks border security,
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they took it to a level we had never seen before,
and unfortunately all of us are going to be paying
the price for that failure for years and years to come.
I think that their plan was the one to two
punch of the flood the zone. Flood America with as
many illegals as fast as you possibly can, so that
the weight of the issue then becomes unavoidable, and there's
(05:56):
a narrative of we have no choice but in the
second Democrat term, which they were expecting for Biden and.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I guess maybe even for Kamalaw but they thought they
would get because of the problem or remember now it
seems crazy. They brought criminal four different criminal cases against
Donald Trump. They thought they had him finished off by
making him the first criminal president in history. Right, This
was the whole plan. So they assumed, I think Clay,
they would have had four more years and then that
(06:25):
Democrat president would have even via executive means if necessary,
you know, finding some way to give them the document,
you know, whatever it is that they had to do
to effectuate a mass amnesty. I truly believe that that
was the plan because Tom Holman, I've never heard Tom
Holman say something that wasn't straight on the money on
(06:47):
this issue. And when he says, I worked for six presidents.
Biden's team did this intentionally. It's gospel. They did this
on purpose. And the only way they would do it
on purpose is that they they had a plan beyond
just letting them in, which was to make them stay
forever and create a permanent Democrat majority in the process,
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people dependent on the state, people who are going to
view the Democrat Party as their saviors, as you know,
bringing them into the country. And that was the game.
And Donald Trump has saved the country from this. But
it is a reprieve. It is not salvation. It is
four years to figure out what to do about it. Right,
It's not like the issue is gone.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
And the problem that we have, and this is what
I talked about with Tom Homan and this is I
think the biggest story structurally associated with the border. Our
laws allowed Biden to let in ten million illegals and
there was virtually no stopping it. Now those ten million
illegals are here. Tom Homan Buck said that he thinks
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the number of illegals in the country is roughly twenty million.
How do you get those people out? Because right now,
the laws that we have to put in play that
would allow us to deport those people are incredibly time consuming.
And so the best possible case scenario is you can
deport about three hundred and fifty thousand people a year
(08:13):
right now under the pace with which we are deporting people.
If that's true, If that's the number, it would take
thirty years roughly to get all of the illegals that
Biden let in out of the country. And that's assuming
that we keep the same protocols in place. This is
why we have to change the way that we deport
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and this is why I think there was a cold
calculus behind the Democrat decision. It was once they get
in here, it's almost impossible for them to get them out,
and that's a problem because we have a different standard
for illegals getting in than we have for getting the
illegals out, and that disconnect means democrats are playing the
(08:56):
long game.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
They feel like those people are never going to leave.
We're never going to be able to force him out.
I mean, look at what this judge did in Milwaukee,
which got a lot of attention, and we talked about
it on Friday, violating the law as a judge and
thwarting the efforts of immigration enforcement officers because you're so convinced,
(09:17):
as somebody who's supposed to be not just knowledgeable in
the law, but administering justice through the law day in
and day out, that this country has no right to
have the immigration laws that it does, and that you should,
as a judge, supersede those laws. Somehow there's a greater
moral authority. I mean, this judge, this woman in judicial robes,
(09:38):
you get the sense she thinks she's operating in some
higher moral plane, you know, like like this is going
going back in our country's history, and she's somebody who's
you know, operating the underground railroad or something and letting
people get to freedom. You say to yourself hold on
a second, is is that really what you do? You
think that our immigration laws deeply immoral? Because if Democrats
(10:02):
really think that the same way that obviously slavery was
deeply immoral, they should make that case openly. The problem
is if they made that case openly play, then they'd
be telling everybody in this country, America has a claim
to your labor, to your money, to your life, perhaps
even if you are called into service if this country
were attacked as an American. But anybody can come here
(10:25):
whenever they want and stay as long as they want,
and they can live by a separate set of rules
as long as they didn't start out as an American.
That's a just regime. That's fair. You're talking about the
dissolution of the country over a not too long a timeline.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
And the question is the only thing that makes sense.
Remember when you weren't even allowed to say this, I
think they tried to. The only thing that makes sense
is they think these people are going to become citizens,
and if they become citizens, they're going to vote Democrat.
That's the only argument for why this is occurring. That
they are playing the long range generational game of these
(11:02):
illegal immigrants are going to come into the country and
they are going to give us political power also. And
this is something else I would encourage the Trump administration
to do. I know, we have the birthright citizenship case. Buck,
what's your take on this, because I think it's the
other aspect of this that's really important that doesn't get
discussed enough. For purposes of the census for the House
(11:24):
of Representatives, they count illegal immigrants as part of the
overall seven hundred thousand ish people that each congressman represents.
By doing so, Democrats are stealing about ten House seats
because even though these theoretical illegal immigrants can't vote, they
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count for purposes of census apportionment. And so if you
are a sanctuary city and you have two hundred thousand
illegal immigrants in your in your district, you have five
hundred thousand legal citizens, based on my understanding of how
the law is being applied right now, two hundred thousand
non citizens. But they would still combine for a district
(12:10):
of seven hundred thousand, and that's a in a basically
roughly even house, that's a benefit of about ten seats
in the House.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
California, in our youth even was a pretty reliably read
Republican stronghold of all the best things about America, and
the Democrats let the place get completely flooded with illegals.
They flipped it to a forever Democrat supermajority and now
still a beautiful state. We love our California listeners, thank
(12:39):
you for you know, maintaining sanity behind enemy lines. It
is run by progressive lunatics, and now they're losing hundreds
of thousands of people a year or over a course
of years because they can't stand to be there anymore.
It's just the microcosm of what they want to do
to America. Same thing. Flood zone with illegals, people who
are going to need stif eight resources and help. They're
(13:01):
going to make sure that the Democrats day in power
forever and then and then it's, you know, the whole
country gets run like California from the federal level. That's
the whole plan, right, I mean, I don't think it's
more complicated than that.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
They want to use the California model for America. I
think that's totally true. I think that's a good analogy.
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my ten year old that he was likely to do buck.
I do think the border right now, the decision to
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put up those one hundred images outside the poster board
basically on the White House lawn in honor of one
hundred days. Do you think that MSNBC is going to
say we have decided to put up a new backdrop
rather than this is what I think they're going to do,
rather than allow for their stand ups. You know, when
(16:39):
they're standing there with the White House in the background.
I bet they take a picture of the White House
before they had those signs up and say we will
not allow the White House to propagandize us, and so
we're just going to put up a still photo in
the background rather than allow those photos to be there.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
I think this is the next step. But then why
be on the White House law.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
I'm not saying that it makes any sense at all,
but I'm saying I bet that that maybe CNN would
be willing to do it. I bet MSNBC will be
doing it very shortly.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I I do love that the troll level is ten
out of ten here by making them do something that
shows because remember, these are violent, these are bad as
Trump would say, these are bad ombrace that they have
photos of in the background that have been deported. I mean,
these are people that are dangerous to be in any
community in this country. And they're not Americans, so they
should go back to their country of origin, which should
(17:33):
handle them. It's not our They are not our problem anymore.
They should never have been our problem. But I agree
with you that they're going to have to figure out
I don't know enough about this. Maybe we can invite
somebody on who's one of the White House uh, you
know stand up reporters. You know they do these stand
up shoots there, because yeah, they're gonna have to find
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I talked to you about this last week. India and
Pakistan could go to war any minute. That could happen.
It would probably be an incursion in part of you know,
in a limited battlefield space. But these are two countries
with considerable militaries that hate each other and have nuclear weapons,
(19:20):
and they've been gearing up for this kind of a
fight for a long time. So just something worth noting.
India has cut off water from the Indus River to Pakistan,
which is necessary for all of its irrigation for agriculture,
which is a huge part of the economy, and Pakistan
needs to feed itself. But Pakistan, according to India, was
(19:41):
behind this terrorist attack in Kashmir that killed dozens of people.
I think it was twenty six people killed, and they
have had enough. So yeah, it is things are escalating
over there. We will continue to keep an eye on that.
I was thinking about it also because Marco Rubio over
the weekend was on the Sunday shows, and I think,
(20:02):
you know, Rubio, you got to get this guy a
lot of credit. He had a tough campaign against Trump
in twenty sixteen, and now he has become really one
of the in the early days here one of the
indispensable members of this Trump cabinet and has not missed
a step. From what I can see, is one of
the he got a one hundred or ninety nine. Maybe
(20:24):
there was somebody who's gone that day, but basically everybody
in the Senate voter for his confirmation, even as Democrat colleagues.
And you don't hear any you don't hear any blunders. Really,
you don't hear any criticism of Marco from anybody who
knows anything. You only hear people talking about how this
is a role that he has. Really he's really kind
of grown into the role I feel like, or even
(20:46):
risen to this occasion as Secretary of State and doing
a very strong job. Let's get into some of what
they tried to go at him with here, Clay over
the weekend. First off, I mentioned this in the first hour,
but there are these stories about deportations of people who
have children and the children go with them. And guess
what the media says, we're deporting children, right, This is
(21:06):
how and Clay, this is what we thought all along.
You know, the MS thirteen gang member thing is a
tougher that's a tougher field to plow right. That's a
tougher situation here. But the kids, abuela, you know, whoever
it is. You know, that's where you start to say, Okay,
they're pulling on people's heartstrings here.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
Yes, I think this is where they miscalculated, Buck, because
they should have waited till a story like this as
opposed to trying to make a Breio Garcia the face
of everything wrong with Trump's deportation. Now they pivoted, I
think because they're recognizing, hey, maybe a wife beating, human trafficking,
illegal gang member allegedly. We know he was illegal, but
(21:46):
all those other things there's ample evidence of as well,
was not the guy we should have made the focal
point of our entire opposition to the immigration policy. So
they now, I think Buck are trying to pivot because
they're recognizing that that was a wad strategy. Yes, here
is Ruby though, talking about what really happened, and he's
straight up saying media is no surprise, media is lying
(22:09):
to you about the deportation of children.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Play twenty four.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
That's a misleading headline. Okay, three US citizens ages four,
seven and two were not deported their mothers, who are
legally in this country were deported. The children went with
their mothers. If those children are US citizens, they can
come back into the United States. So there's their father
or someone here who wants to assume them.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
But ultimately who.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Was deported was their mother. Who's their mothers who were
here illegally. The children just went with their mothers. But
they wasn't like you guys make it sound like ice
agents kick down the door and grabbed the two year
old and threw them on an airplane. That's misleading. That's
just not true.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
And that's the point, right, they were misleading on purpose.
They're deporting US citizen children. Well, the alternative would be
sending the mom out of the country, and then the
story would be they're separating families. They're taking small children
and not letting them ever see their mothers again, because
you know, okay, so do we want family, you know,
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family staying together or not.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
This is also the challenge with birthright citizenship at some level,
and this is why it has to be addressed. And
this is why I said I would layer on top
of it the fact that the birthright citizenship has to
be addressed with larger questions about American immigration policy. But
(23:32):
why in the world. Are we allowing people who commit
crimes to be here illegally to then be able to
have children that become American citizens most of the universe
buck You don't get to commit one crime and then
layer it with a benefit. And this would be an analogy. Right,
(23:55):
you don't get to and this is serious, right, But
if you commit a crime and someone dies, right, you
don't get to then get the life insurance policy.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Right.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
If they can prove that you committed a crime in
order to get the benefit, you lose your ability to
the benefit.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Why would we allow? This is very.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
Logical to me, and of the much of the law
would agree with me. You don't get the benefit of
a crime. But in the case of illegal immigrants coming here,
they do get the benefit of the crime, which is
they're here, they shouldn't be here, and then they have
a child and so their illegal act has led to
a benefit being conveyed to them. Why in the world
(24:40):
is that remotely legal? And so again, I know the
Supreme Court's going to hear it. I think there are
many complicating aspects of birthright citizenship, but ultimately we're talking
about deportations.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Now. The big challenge is.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
Republicans who want to deport are not going to be
in power for the next thirty years.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
I'd love for that to be the case. Not going
to happen.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
There will be Democrats, And when those Democrats come in Buck,
I think there's a very strong likelihood that, like Biden,
they just open the border wide open again and ten
million more illegals come in and the Darien Gap is
flooded again. And this is the reality. And a lot
of people in Latin America and around the world know
the wait, we saw it happen when the guy come
in with the Biden t shirt on. Remember, as soon
(25:25):
as he won, Biden wants us to come. They understand
incentive structure jobs are a tough incentive to eliminate because
it's a sign of how good and vibrant our economy is.
But birthright citizenship it shouldn't exist. We really have to
have a more honest conversation about this, because you're encouraging
people to commit crimes by giving them a benefit as
a result of committing that crime.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I think it's very important to remember all of the
things that come along with the mass of illegal entry
into the country. We were talking about yes sovereignty. Yes,
the social and political fabric of our country being stretched
to the breaking point by people arriving who have all
of the same claims to this country according to Democrats,
(26:06):
as those who are here and those who have built
the country, and those who are actual Americans. But beyond that,
all you have to do is go talk to anybody
in border patrol. They'll tell you because of the overwhelming
numbers at the border, they couldn't they couldn't even begin
to put a dent in the fentanyl importation, you know,
illegal fentanyl trade into the country, which is killing large
(26:27):
numbers of Americans. And remember, for the fentanyl that causes
overdoses is also causing addiction, which is destroying families and
job loss, and causing crime from addicts wanting to go
out and feed the habit and destroying neighborhoods because of
the consolidation of the attics in certain areas of cities.
I mean, you know, it's it's all of this that happens,
(26:49):
and the border plays directly into all of it. Right.
There are people who are oding, there are criminals who
are stealing. There are these things that are happening in
Chicago because of our wide open border in El Paso
and McCallen, and you know, not anymore but under Biden. Right,
So there's all of this stuff that happens because of
(27:11):
the decision. As we've been talking about, the decision that
Biden made was a decision to bring all these secondary
second order effects, right, these other things that come forward
that are really bad, and people need to understand it's
really bad for the American people. And this is why
what Trump is doing. There's so much that comes from this.
(27:33):
It's almost like broken windows policing in a city, to
all of a sudden, the businesses come back. And I
live this in New York City, right, broken windows policing,
the Giuliani miracle. All of a sudden, you know, women
are jogging at night and they feel safe, and new
businesses are opening, and real estate development happens. When you
don't have a wide open border, all of a sudden,
there's more resources to go after the cartels, not as
(27:55):
many overdoses, not as much organized drug crime in cities,
and so on and so forth. There's so much that
comes from this. I would also I think this is important.
I bet you get these emails in these comments and
these reach outs to. On this front, there's a different
way of defining deportation because every time I say, hey,
(28:16):
three hundred and fifty thousand, that's roughly the pace. I
hope we can increase it. But obviously that's a pinprick
of the ten million illegals that came in. People will
send me links and they'll say, oh, that's not true.
So and so deported this number a lot of times historically,
meaning in the last twenty five or thirty years, The
way deportation has been counted is people being rejected at
(28:39):
the border. That is different than people who have entered
the country and are then sent out. A lot of
times when they say, oh, Obama was deporter in chief,
according to what I've been told, that's because there were
people being rejected trying to enter the country, which was
counted as a deportation. What we're talking about is there
(29:01):
are twenty million illegals physically in.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
Our country right now. That's according to Tom Homan, roughly
twenty million. Over ten million of those came in during
the four years that Biden was here. In order to
get those twenty million out, you have to physically get
them here. There's two ways, right They could lead voluntarily,
which hopefully maybe some are starting to do, although Tom
Holman told me the numbers reflect maybe around five thousand
(29:26):
that they know of deciding to go back. Otherwise, you
have to get these people, gather them and take them
out of the country, which is very time consuming, which
is very costly, and right now we're on a pace
to do about three hundred and fifty thousand of those
a year. You do the math, and even if you
did three hundred and fifty thousand of those for a
year long into the future, you're talking about needing thirty
(29:50):
years in order. And that's assuming no new illegals are
coming in. You're talking about thirty years to get those
people out of the country. Democrats know that that is
highly unlikely because again, if they win elections, they're going
to add in millions more. That's what they have put
the roadblock in. That's why they're doing it.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
So I remember doing shows on this clay a decade ago,
and it was so dishonest what they were doing at
the time. But what you mentioned is absolutely true, which
is that while they were saying this is around twenty fourteen,
so Obama's turned you know, this is when they were
trying to get the amnesty bill through. They're saying, Obama
is the deporter in chief. Look at these deportation numbers.
(30:28):
He takes the border seriously. The whole thing was a ruse.
It was a fraud. And what they did was they
changed the official statistic. Instead of what had been just
termed catch and release and not counted in the figures,
which is, you get caught of the border, they put
you on a bus, and you're back across the border,
(30:49):
end of story. Anybody that fell into that category was
now considered a quote deportation. Meanwhile, this is the other
part of it. I know you articulated this. The actual
number of peace people who were in the American interior,
not at the border, who were being deported year in
and year out under the Obama administration up to twenty
fourteen when they were trying to do this cratered down
(31:12):
fifty percent, give or take. So they just decided to
stop enforcing immigration law in America and change the way
that they counted the day to day border patrol operations
at the border to make it seem like they were
doing a job that they weren't actually doing it all
classic Obama that was the whole move, and you know, sir,
(31:34):
people figure that out, though, I will say Republicans at
that time lit up the congressional switchboards and people realized
that the amnesty bill was a total disaster, in part
because when this swindle came out, everyone goes, oh, so
you're just lying to us, You're just and all we're
going to get is amnesty. No, no enforcement's going to
really happen, which was true.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
And again this is where I would say Congress does
need to act because we at least need to try
to put in place opportunities to stop the next Democrat
president from coming in and doing exactly what Joe Biden did,
which was just get his pen out, reverse every policy
that was in place with Trump, and wide open the borders.
(32:15):
We need to try and stop that from becoming a possibility.
If who knows, AOC is suddenly god forbid elected president
and then gets stakes the oath of office in twenty
twenty nine, do you think she wouldn't just wide open
the border as soon as she got there.
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One bit of news.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
We are scheduled to have vice press in JD Vance
on the show tomorrow. Obviously, things can occur which make
interview as has happened, which makes interviewing people who are
involved in currently sitting in positions of power inside of
the administration not possible. But right now, on the one
hundredth anniversary of one hundred day mark of the Trump
(35:22):
Vance administration, we are scheduled to have JD on with
us tomorrow, so you can put that on your calendar
and prepare for it. Accordingly, Buck, can we come back?
This story is even crazy? I think that you would.
Your eyebrows have to go up over the weekend, and
(35:43):
again huge numbers of people are watching it. The NFL
Draft is going on. Trump has weighed in on this.
The Eagles are going to be at the White House today.
They won the Super Bowl, but the NFL Draft was
going on, and Shador Sanders, who is the young the
one of the sons of Dion Sanders, legendary defensive back
Hall of Famer, was not drafted until the fifth round,
(36:07):
and people lost their minds, including and I know this
is going to blow your mind, Buck, alleging that it
was racism that this quarterback was not drafted. Sooner Trump
laid in, the Eagles are scheduled to be there. We'll
have some fun with this. Also, your voye Sequon was
(36:30):
golfing with Trump over the weekend at Bedminster. We'll talk
about that and we'll have some fun. My wife decided
to have a yard sale, and I've got lots of
thoughts about the entire yard sale industry, plus the latest
on the border and the public available data there all
that still to come. Thanks for hanging with us here
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