September 10, 2025 • 37 mins
Hour 2 of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show continues with a deep dive into the most pressing issues dominating headlines, with a strong focus on crime, justice reform, and political accountability. The hour opens with an interview featuring Michael Whatley, Chairman of the RNC and Republican Senate candidate in North Carolina. Whatley discusses the shocking murder of Iryna Tkachenko in Charlotte and criticizes the soft-on-crime policies of Democratic Governor Roy Cooper. He emphasizes the need for judicial reform, stronger law enforcement support, and accountability for elected judges and magistrates who repeatedly release violent offenders.
The conversation expands to broader criminal justice failures, including a disturbing double homicide in New York City where an elderly couple was tortured and murdered. The hosts highlight the suspect’s history as a violent sex offender and criticize the media’s reluctance to cover such crimes when they don’t fit preferred narratives. They argue that progressive policies and BLM-era ideology have led to increased violence and a breakdown in public safety, especially in Democrat-run cities.
Political analysis takes center stage as Clay and Buck dissect excerpts from Kamala Harris’ new book, which blames Joe Biden’s decision to run for re-election on ego and ambition. The hosts mock Harris’ claims of being “hypnotized” and suggest her comments are part of a strategic move to position herself for a 2028 presidential run. They argue that Harris’ lack of political talent and her selection based on identity politics have damaged her credibility and contributed to the failures of the Biden administration.
The hour also includes humorous personal anecdotes, including Clay’s farewell to his beloved 24-year-old leather couch “Old Blue,” sold during a garage sale. The segment offers comic relief while reinforcing the show’s relatable tone and connection with listeners.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome Ahead out number two Wednesday edition Klay Travis buck
Sexton Show. We are talking about a variety of subjects,
inflation under expert expectations, Kamala Harris's book excerpts are out,
and more. But the biggest story continues to be the
brutal murder of Arena Zurutska and the video in full
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totality being a release yesterday afternoon after we got off
the show. And one of the people that is responsible,
sadly for the fact that this individual was allowed to
be back out onto the streets is the former governor
of North Carolina, Roy Cooper, who was instrumental in putting
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in place the soft on crime policies that allowed this
guy to be arrested fourteen times and then to brutally
attack and murder an innocent twenty three year old sitting
on Charlotte public transit. And one of the individuals running
to try to ensure that the Republican Senate seat currently
held by Tom Tillis remains in the hands of Republicans
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and that soft on crime Democrats are not allowed to
advance to Washington, d C is Michael Wattley, former chair
of the RNC. He is running in North Carolina. He
is going to be the Republican nominee and he joins
US now. And so let's start with the very basics
on this story. When did you become aware, Chairman Wattley
(01:33):
about this video and this murder, And what is the
reaction like as you travel around the state of North
Carolina to it's now being released in full totality.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Sure, you know I write about the murder the day
after it happened. There was a little bit of local
coverage down in North Carolina, but really only when the
video came out did you get the visuals and understand
know how depraved this guy was and how horrific this
this attack was. You know before that it was really
just a statistic. And the fact is, you know that
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that this guy should not have been on that car,
He should not have been walking around the city, He
should not have been a threat to the people of
North Carolina. And so every conversation that I'm having across
North Carolina, people are just in shock that this guy
was allowed, you know, on the streets after having been
arrested fourteen different times and and let out through a
(02:33):
revolving door. And I think a lot of people are
very disgusted with the leadership from the Democratic Party, which
really starts at the top with Roy Cooper, and that
they wanted to put in place policies that were going
to foster that revolving door and let these guys out
rather than have to pay the punishment to society when
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they committed crimes.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Chremer Watley, it's buck. Thanks for being here with us.
You alluded to this just a moment ago. I'm wondering
if you could give us a little bit more detail,
because we do like to try to focus on the
action items, you know, what could be done differently in
the future, What needs to be changed to make these
situations far less common than unfortunately are where there's a
(03:18):
repeat offender commits a heinous murderer and then finally the
system says, oh, I guess we have to do something
about this. What could be different whether it's in the
city of Charlotte specifically, or in North Carolina state law,
what would you like to see changed in the system
that would make it function better to protect all North Carolinians.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Yeah, well, you need to keep repeat offenders off the streets.
I think that's the first place that you've got to start.
You know, you look at a city like Charlotte, but
it's not just Charlotte. I mean you can look at
every single community across North Carolina and you worry about
this type of a safety issue. You could go out
to California, you can go to New York, you know,
And I think that that having a system in place
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where we're going to one back the blue and make
sure that they have the resources that they need, all
the men and women in uniform to keep our kids
in our communities safe. We need to make sure that
we're going to do that. But then secondly, they have
to be prosecuted and there have to be real consequences.
You know, when when Roy Cooper signs an executive order
that says, I want to reimagine law enforcement in North Carolina.
(04:23):
The laws do not need to be reimagined. They need
to be enforced, you know. And so that is something
that President Trump, thank God, and Pam bondi are our
great Attorney General, are working on every single day in
every single one of these communities. I find it amazing
that the Democratic leadership absolutely lost their mind when President
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Trump sent federal troops in to quell the riots out
in Los Angeles, and then they absolutely are are horrified
that he said he was going to clean up Washington,
d C. By sending an assistance, which even the mayor,
Muriel Bowser says is a great thing. You know. But
everywhere you look, the Democrats are fighting harder for violent
criminal repeat offenders like this than they are the victims
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and the carnage that those guys are sowing in our communities.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
We get asked this question a lot. What should happen
to the judges and the magistrates who are consistently letting
violent criminals back out on the streets. The DA's obviously,
who are taking soft on crime deals to allow this
to occur or not beyond approach, we talk about the
elected officials, what about the judges themselves? For North Carolinians
(05:32):
and frankly, for Americans all over the country who are
outraged by what they've seen in this video. It was
eminently predictable that a violent predator would act in violent
and predatory fashion, and unfortunately this young woman was the victim,
but it could have been many different young women, young
men all over the state of North Carolina. How do
we stop this from happening? From a judicial perspective.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah, I think it's a very important look. You know,
because in North Carolina, judges are elected. You know, when
I took over as the state party chair in North Carolina,
Democrats had a six to one advantage on the Supreme
Court and they had a majority on the Court of Appeals.
I created a judicial Victory Fund where we raised money
specifically to put it into those judicial races. And today
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we have a conservative Supreme Court, we have a conservative
Court of Appeals. But that needs to be the case
in every one of these localities. You know that that
when we see judges who are acting against the interests
of their communities, they need to be voted out. Obviously
that's different on a federal level, where we have to
go through the impeachments. But the judges in all of
these different cases were elected, you know, in Charlotte, North Carolina,
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and and really truly, there do need to be ramifications
when people are going to continually put the interest of
criminals ahead of you know, the community at large.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
But you know, oh sorry, sir, go ahead, go ahead,
go ahead. I was going to ask about the status
of this this special what do they call that. There
wasn't really a judge. It was a magistrate, right that
let this individual out the most recent time, a magistrate
that didn't pass the bar exam. How can somebody who
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hasn't proven any ability in the law being trusted with
dispensing justice based on the law. I think a lot
of people look at this and say what is going on?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Well, I think they should say that, right, this is
really this is really appalling, and I think it is
something structurally that we need to take a look at
in North Carolina. Clearly, every state is going to have
different laws in terms of how they're they're they're dealing
with this, but it starts at the top. You know,
Roy Cooper was the Attorney general and then the governor
of North Carolina, and he said very clearly, I want
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to have a soft on crime policy. I want to
reimagine law enforcement in North Carolina. He put these executive
orders in place, and he said a tone for the
rest of the judicial system all the way down to
this particular magistrate. And that is just inexcusable. It's a
complete failure of leadership at the top.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
The campaign is going to be a grueling, arduous undertaking,
and I know you're traveling all over North Carolina. And
I know the answer anytime you say how do elections
get one is all over a state, all.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Over a community. People have to come out and vote.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
But I saw this morning, I was watching the press
conference of a lot of different Charlotte leaders. Over one
hundred people I think are murdered every year in Charlotte.
And so while Arena Zorutska the video is captivating in
an awful and eerie and horrific way, they're at least
ninety nine to other plus people who are often innocent
victims of violent crime in Charlotte. What is a reasonable
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thing that a Senate campaign can do over the next
year plus to try to shine a light on everybody
who is dying unfortunately in our large cities, often run
by Democrats, to try to change that story.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, Look, the safety of our kids and communities is
an absolute top tier issue for our campaign and President
Trump ran on this in twenty twenty four. It is
an issue set that really truly resonates all across North Carolina.
You know, for us to think about the leadership in
the state, you know, I go back to twenty twenty
when Antifa riots, they're burning down Raleigh and Roy Cooper,
(09:32):
the Governor's out there marching with them. Right. This is
not the type of leadership that we need, you know,
in democratic leadership, whether it's aoc Zorn Mamdani, Bernie Sanders,
or anybody else. You know, they're out there fighting aggressively
for criminals. They're not fighting for families and communities. And
I think that is a spotlight we're going to be
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shining from one end of the state to the other.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
And even almost exactly one year since the Hurricane Helene,
awfulness happened in western North Carolina, we traveled in there.
We have a great affiliate in Nashville. What are you
seeing of Western North Carolina? How is the recovery going
from your perspective?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Well, look, the people in the communities of western North
Carolina are so strong and so resilient. But you know,
FEMA and the Cooper administration really failed them when hurricane
came through. Uh. And so President Trump when when he
was put in office, uh won this election. Uh, And
he was sworn in his very first trip was to
(10:34):
western North Carolina and and took me along with him.
And I'm grateful for that. And and and we saw
that the devastation that was still in place, because you know,
Governor Cooper and and and President Biden had completely failed
that region. And since then, the administration has put hundreds
of millions of dollars, billions of dollars of resources, and
(10:56):
it's been in It's not just FEMA, but it has
been a whole of government. Right just last week we
saw a us DA with two hundred and twenty million
dollars of support there. We've seen one point four billion
dollars coming in and housing assistance from hud We've also
seen hundreds of millions of dollars that have come in
from the Small Business Administration to help the forty five
(11:18):
thousand small businesses that were affected by that storm. But
you know, obviously the FEMA role is tremendously important. I
appreciate President asking me to be on the FEMA Review
Council to take a look at what happened coming out
of Hurricane Helen and make sure that we don't ever
have a response like that again.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Chairman Wantley, where can folks go to help out? Learn
more about all of you above for your campaign.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Wadleyfirsenate dot com. And we certainly need a movement all
across North Carolina. It is going to be the marquee
Senate race in the entire country. You know, we go back.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
What can I ask you, Shiner, what kind of money
are the Democrats going to throw into this race?
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Would you guess?
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Just put the like if you were in a ballpark
it for me, I.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Fully expect the Democrats will spend two hundred and fifty
to three hundred million dollars in this race in North Carolina,
and they're not going to have it is It is
absolutely staggering the amount of money that the Democrats are
throwing at this And of course it's coming from Chicago,
It's coming from Saint Louis, it's coming from San Francisco,
it's coming from New York and everywhere else other than
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North Carolina. But the fact is, we need a senator
who is going to fight for every family and every
community in the state. And President Trump needs an ally
in the Senate and I'm going to be that voice.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Thank you, Chairman Watley, good luck.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
We'll have you on I'm sure again soon to talk
about the North Carolina Senate campaign, which is going to
be one of the biggest battlegrounds in all of the midterms.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Next year.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Thank you, Yeah, thank you, guys.
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We had spoken about this in the first hour, and
I just want to remind everyone that there's another heinous
crime that I think is being overshadowed right now because
of the video of the also heinous crime. I don't
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know how you can just running out of words to
describe how awful these things are. But this crime in
New York City, where elderly couples tied up, tortured, stabbed,
lit on fire, and yet again, is an interracial crime
from what I understand from the reporting, and the individual
(14:58):
is out and he is he is currently they're trying
to find him. And here is Jessica Tish, who is
the Commissioner of the NYPDE And as you all know,
I've many years ago worked with her at the NYPD,
and she was just making her way up the ranks.
Here she is cut eight play it.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
The NYPD is searching for the suspect in a horrific
double homicide, robbery, and arson. The person responsible for this
crime should be considered armed and dangerous. The suspect's mo
is to go door to door asking for some kind
of assistance until he can gain entry. So do not
allow anyone you don't know or who you are not
(15:38):
expecting into your home. Mister Alton was found in the
basement tied to a pole with multiple stab wounds. Missus
Alton was found on the first floor severely burned. At
this time, there is no known connection between mister McGriff,
our suspect, and our victims beyond this chance encounter.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Clay. You know, it's also, you know, I remember when
there was this whole thing about trying to ruin people's
lives by videotaping them. If they ask somebody, hey, you know,
are you if somebody tried to walk in behind you
in a building, which is a kind of a security violation,
and if it's a minority, then all of a sudden,
it's oh my gosh, you're so racist or whatever. Well,
here we're being told that this guy who's a predator,
(16:26):
who's a sexual predator, a violent maniac. His whole thing
is using the kindness and consideration of human beings to
gain access to their homes, to light them on fire
and murder them.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yeah, and I think what you are seeing is democrats
argument that violent crime is actually not a problem, is
not in any way an honest take on what most
people in America are dealing with. And it just feels
supremely tone deaf for their response to, Hey, we got
(16:59):
to walk up more violent criminals, Hey we should drive
down violent crime, Hey any more police officers, let's call
out the National Guard as needed in some cities. For
their response to be things aren't actually that bad. This
is what a dictator would do. I watched Trump. Maybe
we can talk about this a little bit. I'm sure
go out to dinner last night at a steakhouse in
DC and he got confronted by people who were chanting
(17:20):
and calling him Hitler. Was Hitler really a guy that
was committed to ending murders? I'm just tossing it out there.
It doesn't seem to me that Hitler was a overall
committed to non violence kind of guy. It's just evidence,
I think of the brokenness of their arguments. Leave us
(17:41):
side politics. Everybody should be in favor of fewer violent
acts and fewer victims of art. But clay the problem here,
and this is where the Democrats have very very little leeway.
But so why some of them were getting even crazier.
We played some Mam Donni for you. Yet Mom Donnie
wants to let more people out of prison. Mam Donnie,
if he becomes mayor of New York, wants to make things.
But if Democrats admit that, if they if they have
(18:04):
a change of course here on criminal justice based on reality,
it will be an admission that they've been wrong all along.
And they won't do that, you know, That's that's the
thing they They would rather people keep dying that admit
that they were wrong and we were right this whole time.
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Speaker 1 (19:22):
In the third hour two, our good friend Kamala Harris
has had her first excerpts of what is it one
hundred and nine days or one hundred and seven days?
I can't remember how long, the one hundred and seven days,
how long her campaign was, and we mentioned this off
the top. She has decided to throw Joe Biden under
(19:43):
the bus, and there are here let me read you
the quotes.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
This is from The Atlantic, which has gotten the first
excerpt rights of Kamala's magisterial work of political brilliance.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I'm sure she was up late at night typing out
all the for herself, grinding.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Grinding, No telling how many bottles of wine she went
through late at night as she contemplated such complex stories.
And of all the people in the White House, this
is Kamala. I was in the worst position to make
the case that he should drop out. I knew it
would come off to him as incredibly self serving. If
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I advised him not to run. He would see it
as naked ambition, perhaps as poisonous disloyalty. Even if my
only message was don't let the other guy win. It's
Joe and Jill's decision. We all said that like a mantra,
as if we'd all been hypnotized. Was it grace or
(20:42):
was it recklessness? In retrospect, I think it was recklessness.
The stakes were simply too high. This wasn't a choice
that should have been left to an individual's ego, an
individual's ambition. It should have been more than a personal decision. Okay,
takes her like a year or coming up in almost
(21:03):
a year of takes.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Her ghost writer a year.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
But yes, yes, to say that it was reckless for
Joe Biden to run. Now there's gonna be a battle
over this. I'm sure the Biden people are fuming over
these comments that Kamala Harris is making.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
To me Buck.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
It reignites my belief that she is trying to set
the table to run in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
I think she may be trying. I think she may
be trying. But this is part of the problem that
she has, Clay, is that she comes across as as weak, ineffective,
and vindictive in this No matter what right, she was
unable to stop him until it was too late, and
then she got destroyed, and now she's trying to, after
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the fact, justify it. She is marked as a loser,
a loser in this whole thing and the other thing,
the other part of it that I believe, well, certainly
we will talk about here. The only reason she of
course doesn't address this in the book. I don't have
to read the book to know this, or she doesn't
say this. The only reason that Joe Biden was so
(22:12):
reckless and pushed along, and this is why I thought
he would take it to the end. The only reason
this was even possible is because Kamala was such a
disaster as a candidate in waiting and they knew it.
They picked her for DEI reasons. They picked her because
Biden wanted a black woman to be his vice president.
They did not pick her based upon political talent and
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her ability to be the next president of the United States,
and they knew that, which is why Biden was able
to steamroll her. The dementia patient was able to say
to the White House Clay, credibly, I'm a better option
than she is, even though you all know I'm not.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Up for this. What about this line?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
And I come back to this because usually political books
are really boring because they're basically written by big mishmash
of political advisors and they go through with their red
pen and they're like, oh, gotta be careful here. The
gay lobby is going to be offended by this paragraph.
(23:14):
Oh are we sure we want to say this? The
unions are going to be unhappy with this, and so
it comes across as a poll tested mishmash of uninteresting.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Glot glob glot.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
And when she says, we all said that like a mantra,
as if we'd been hypnotized. The only there are two
jobs for a president. Really, this is the job of
any politician. One is decision making, two is communication. That's
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basically the whole job. When you tell me that you
can be hypnotized by a dementia patient, it doesn't make
me think, oh, this is someone who's going to be
able to handle actually difficult decisions. So when I saw
that hypnotize, everybody's focused on the recklessness. That's a lie
we all know. But her trying to say I was
hypnotized reminds me of was it Mitt Romney's dad, George
(24:13):
I believe, who said he was brainwashed on I think
it was George Romney who said he was brainwashed to
support the Vietnam war And and somebody said, well, that's
not true. All it would take is a light rinsing,
which is one of the which is one of the
you know, best kind of counters ever team looked that up.
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But that basically is letting everybody know, Hey, it's waving
your hand, as if we needed more evidence you're not
a leader. And also your decision making is not very good.
And so when I saw the hypnotized line, the fact
that they said it was reckless. Yeah, of course it
was reckless. We all know that it took her a
(24:55):
year to get to that poll tested word choice and
answer it. But the hypnotized thing kind of slipped, didn't
Did I get that wrong?
Speaker 3 (25:01):
No? No, no, no. I was just going to say that,
I think the Biden, even for Democrats, the Biden administration
is going to be something they wished to forget, and
I think Kamala is going to have to carry the
burden of being a reminder of the deeply flawed and
disastrous for Democrats. I'm not even forget about what we
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think as Republicans. I think Democrats recognize that Biden was
a Yeah, he stopped Trump for four years, but what
he really did was like send Trump along with Rocky
to go train in Siberia and come back as super Trump.
You know it didn't Yeah, he didn't actually have the
intended effect. That's one of the greatest montages of all time,
(25:43):
and that's all you guys don't know what I'm talking about.
Sylvester Sloan's up to his knees in the snow and
it's like a hearts fire.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
You know.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Anyway, you get what I'm saying. That's what happened to Trump.
He was doing the push ups in the snow, and
he came back better than ever. And so I think
that Kamala Biden, for all of his failures, Clay or
rather for all of his shortcomings, was a reminder for
Democrats of the golden age of eight years of Obama,
and that was a huge asset. It was a huge
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asset for him with the black community, huge asset for
him with the Democrats in general. Kamala is a reminder of.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
The Biden administration.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
I think that could be politically endgame. I think it
could be all over well. I think that's an interesting angle.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
By the way, it was George Romney nineteen sixty seven
who claimed that he had been brainwashed and on Vietnam
but to say, you've been hypnotized to me, it had
an evocation of that comment which haunted George Romney and
even his son to a certain extent for years into
the future.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
To your point.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
I think that's one of the great unanswered questions going forward.
Will the cabinet members of Biden be held accountable by
voters for not speaking out?
Speaker 4 (26:57):
That could be Mayor.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
These are the people who think they have a political
career going forward, Mayor Pete Kamala Harris. I'm not sure
how many of the others are as connected to Biden
as those two would be as potential runners in twenty
twenty eight. But this I'm not going to read the
whole book, although I will go see Kamala Harris in
my future is female Rachel Maddow specks t shirt.
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I bought the most expensive tickets to Kamala Harris's book
event at the Ryman Auditorium in Nashville, so I almost hope.
I could probably not talk about it anymore because I
can see myself getting disallowed to enter the event. So
maybe I should keep quiet and just give us a
full book report when I actually go. But reading some
(27:50):
of these excerpts from the Atlantic, because I'm certainly not
going to read the whole book because it sounds like
the worst worst punishment out there. I saw some guys
joking about this is the ultimate. Sometimes guys set up
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to read the whole thing and write up like you're
a kid, you know, a seven page review of the
Kamala Harris book.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
I think it would be really really funny.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Just promise me that if you get the opportunity, if
anyone confronts you at the Kamala book reading in it
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Because there, I'm telling you, the wires will crawl, they
will have no idea, they'll they won't know what to say.
Just be like, I'm sorry, are you assuming min jen?
Are you misgendering me? All you have to say and
(28:49):
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the gremlins or I guess that's bad because then there's
more gremlins. But you know what I mean, it's it's
quickly nervous book.
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All right, welcome back in here to Clay and Buck.
We're gonna get some calls here momentarily. But first up,
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Let me say this too on that buck. Laura Travis
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The lovely Katie is about to have her second baby.
These things need to be gone. So the new book's
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(31:41):
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Speaker 4 (31:43):
Buck.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
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It's bad. You got a high play out here.
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I bought a I bought a a couch.
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Buck.
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I told you this off. I bought a blue leather
couch old Blue. Wow, amazing couch, blue leather. Two thousand
and one. When I started law school. I went out
to rooms to go, I think, and I bought a
(32:14):
four hundred dollars I remember, four hundred dollar couch. I
was like, this is the most amazing thing at old blue,
blue leather couch. I have had it now for twenty
four years.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Did you really call your couch old blue? Because carry me.
I had a couch that I called old Gray, was
big and comfy and over stuffed. And Carrie, when we
got married, it was like taking old Yellow out back.
I had to like put a bullet in old Gray
and take my couch and give it away to like,
you know, one of the giveaway places. Very sad.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
I walked up into my office and Old Blue was gone.
There was no discussion about the couch being removed. I
don't even know who took it out. I sat down
where I sit. You didn't even get to say goodbye
to old Blue. I didn't get say well, oh blue
was on the front Old Blue was on the front porch.
Laura had another garage cell buck over the over the weekend.
(33:07):
My wife, I think if she could be a professional
garage cell person. This is like the dream of all
dreams for her. Old Blue was on the front porch.
Somebody I don't know who bought it. I had that
couch for twenty four years, four hundred dollars, twenty four years.
Great return, and Laura sold it for one hundred bucks.
(33:30):
She sold Old Blue for one hundred bucks.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Old Gray was like a brother to me. Man, Old
Gray was there for me for years. You know. It
was that couch was way too big for the part
of the tiny apartment I had in New York. It
was like I had to move everything just to make
room for the couch, and you could pretty much touch
both like walls front and back from it. But man,
that couch, it was. It was always there for me,
rough day at work, Old Gray was there. Old Blue.
(33:54):
That same thing is mine was like a fabric, though
yours was leather. That's some real man cave stuff.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Oh yeah, I mean it's like remember the movie boiler
Room back in the day, where those guys were wealthy
traders and they based it's.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
An underrated I think that's an underrated movie. It's a
good film.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
They had awesome places. You probably some of you women
who have dated, you know, guys in their twenties or
probably early thirties, have been in this situation where you
walk in in the apartment or the house or the
condo or whatever's kind of nice, but there's nothing on
the walls. There is basically a big comfortable couch, a
huge flat screen television, right and that, and then make
(34:32):
maybe a bed on like not even with a stand,
but like a big, king sized bed.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Maybe some Chinese takeout or pizza boxes in a corner,
not even necessarily stacked, just in a corner.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
When Laura started dating me Buck, she came to the
place where I was living, where Old Blue and I
were bachelor patting it, and she said, where are your
pots and pants? I've been this place for like a year,
so where do you keep your pots and pants? I
was like, I don't think I have pots. I don't
think I have pots and pans. Not only did I
(35:05):
not have them, I had never thought to myself, you
know what I'm really missing here is pots and pans.
When she asked it, was. I'd never even had the
thought that I should have pots and pans. How old
were you when you bought your first Well, so you've
been married, so this is different. But I didn't buy
a headboard for a bed until I think I was
like forty years old. I just got a bed with
(35:29):
pillows on it. Then I slept on head I mean,
most guys don't have me. You just have like a
big mattress and like something to put the mattress on,
some sort of box springs. But even the larger construct
of the bed, most guys don't have that. The first
thing I bought that I was super proud to buy
was a flat screen television. Old Blue was close, but
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a flat screen television. I really thought I had made it.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Nobody this Old Blue and Old Gray would have been
good friends. I didn't know it was. This was the thing.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
You know.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Gerard Ali's Husband's kind of am allusion, very handsome man. Uh.
He had a black leather couch that she made him.
We're just we're just finding out. They got married and
black leather couch got sent sent to the the glue factory,
so to speak. I hope that couch has a good
life from here because I feel like twenty four years
(36:19):
we've made a good made a good team. And then
I just walked into my office and the point is
everything is getting taken out because we're moving into a
new house and I just walk in and things are disappearing.
Go get all the books at Crockettcoffee dot com. Uh
before who knows where those books end up. You can
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(36:39):
Old Blue if you would. As we finish off the
hour Old Blue, and I was disappointed that I missed.
I missed out on the Clay Clay Travis tag sale.
I mean I feel like I could have gotten some
great stuff, some good deals. Uh yeah, I think Laura
made us sixty eight dollars. I mean there's no telling
I'm gonna be able to buy one half of a scan.
Not that the irs knows about my friend. You know
(36:59):
what I'm saying, all cash, baby, I gotta I gotta
be careful. Yeah, sixty eight one dollar bills. So look out, world,
we had a weekend here. When we come back, we'll
dive into more than what's going on gen Z, We'll
tell you
Welcome Ahead out number two Wednesday edition Klay Travis buck
Sexton Show. We are talking about a variety of subjects,
inflation under expert expectations, Kamala Harris's book excerpts are out,
and more. But the biggest story continues to be the
brutal murder of Arena Zurutska and the video in full
(00:25):
totality being a release yesterday afternoon after we got off
the show. And one of the people that is responsible,
sadly for the fact that this individual was allowed to
be back out onto the streets is the former governor
of North Carolina, Roy Cooper, who was instrumental in putting
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in place the soft on crime policies that allowed this
guy to be arrested fourteen times and then to brutally
attack and murder an innocent twenty three year old sitting
on Charlotte public transit. And one of the individuals running
to try to ensure that the Republican Senate seat currently
held by Tom Tillis remains in the hands of Republicans
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and that soft on crime Democrats are not allowed to
advance to Washington, d C is Michael Wattley, former chair
of the RNC. He is running in North Carolina. He
is going to be the Republican nominee and he joins
US now. And so let's start with the very basics
on this story. When did you become aware, Chairman Wattley
(01:33):
about this video and this murder, And what is the
reaction like as you travel around the state of North
Carolina to it's now being released in full totality.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Sure, you know I write about the murder the day
after it happened. There was a little bit of local
coverage down in North Carolina, but really only when the
video came out did you get the visuals and understand
know how depraved this guy was and how horrific this
this attack was. You know before that it was really
just a statistic. And the fact is, you know that
(02:09):
that this guy should not have been on that car,
He should not have been walking around the city, He
should not have been a threat to the people of
North Carolina. And so every conversation that I'm having across
North Carolina, people are just in shock that this guy
was allowed, you know, on the streets after having been
arrested fourteen different times and and let out through a
(02:33):
revolving door. And I think a lot of people are
very disgusted with the leadership from the Democratic Party, which
really starts at the top with Roy Cooper, and that
they wanted to put in place policies that were going
to foster that revolving door and let these guys out
rather than have to pay the punishment to society when
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they committed crimes.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Chremer Watley, it's buck. Thanks for being here with us.
You alluded to this just a moment ago. I'm wondering
if you could give us a little bit more detail,
because we do like to try to focus on the
action items, you know, what could be done differently in
the future, What needs to be changed to make these
situations far less common than unfortunately are where there's a
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repeat offender commits a heinous murderer and then finally the
system says, oh, I guess we have to do something
about this. What could be different whether it's in the
city of Charlotte specifically, or in North Carolina state law,
what would you like to see changed in the system
that would make it function better to protect all North Carolinians.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Yeah, well, you need to keep repeat offenders off the streets.
I think that's the first place that you've got to start.
You know, you look at a city like Charlotte, but
it's not just Charlotte. I mean you can look at
every single community across North Carolina and you worry about
this type of a safety issue. You could go out
to California, you can go to New York, you know,
And I think that that having a system in place
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where we're going to one back the blue and make
sure that they have the resources that they need, all
the men and women in uniform to keep our kids
in our communities safe. We need to make sure that
we're going to do that. But then secondly, they have
to be prosecuted and there have to be real consequences.
You know, when when Roy Cooper signs an executive order
that says, I want to reimagine law enforcement in North Carolina.
(04:23):
The laws do not need to be reimagined. They need
to be enforced, you know. And so that is something
that President Trump, thank God, and Pam bondi are our
great Attorney General, are working on every single day in
every single one of these communities. I find it amazing
that the Democratic leadership absolutely lost their mind when President
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Trump sent federal troops in to quell the riots out
in Los Angeles, and then they absolutely are are horrified
that he said he was going to clean up Washington,
d C. By sending an assistance, which even the mayor,
Muriel Bowser says is a great thing. You know. But
everywhere you look, the Democrats are fighting harder for violent
criminal repeat offenders like this than they are the victims
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and the carnage that those guys are sowing in our communities.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
We get asked this question a lot. What should happen
to the judges and the magistrates who are consistently letting
violent criminals back out on the streets. The DA's obviously,
who are taking soft on crime deals to allow this
to occur or not beyond approach, we talk about the
elected officials, what about the judges themselves? For North Carolinians
(05:32):
and frankly, for Americans all over the country who are
outraged by what they've seen in this video. It was
eminently predictable that a violent predator would act in violent
and predatory fashion, and unfortunately this young woman was the victim,
but it could have been many different young women, young
men all over the state of North Carolina. How do
we stop this from happening? From a judicial perspective.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah, I think it's a very important look. You know,
because in North Carolina, judges are elected. You know, when
I took over as the state party chair in North Carolina,
Democrats had a six to one advantage on the Supreme
Court and they had a majority on the Court of Appeals.
I created a judicial Victory Fund where we raised money
specifically to put it into those judicial races. And today
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we have a conservative Supreme Court, we have a conservative
Court of Appeals. But that needs to be the case
in every one of these localities. You know that that
when we see judges who are acting against the interests
of their communities, they need to be voted out. Obviously
that's different on a federal level, where we have to
go through the impeachments. But the judges in all of
these different cases were elected, you know, in Charlotte, North Carolina,
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and and really truly, there do need to be ramifications
when people are going to continually put the interest of
criminals ahead of you know, the community at large.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
But you know, oh sorry, sir, go ahead, go ahead,
go ahead. I was going to ask about the status
of this this special what do they call that. There
wasn't really a judge. It was a magistrate, right that
let this individual out the most recent time, a magistrate
that didn't pass the bar exam. How can somebody who
(07:17):
hasn't proven any ability in the law being trusted with
dispensing justice based on the law. I think a lot
of people look at this and say what is going on?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Well, I think they should say that, right, this is
really this is really appalling, and I think it is
something structurally that we need to take a look at
in North Carolina. Clearly, every state is going to have
different laws in terms of how they're they're they're dealing
with this, but it starts at the top. You know,
Roy Cooper was the Attorney general and then the governor
of North Carolina, and he said very clearly, I want
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to have a soft on crime policy. I want to
reimagine law enforcement in North Carolina. He put these executive
orders in place, and he said a tone for the
rest of the judicial system all the way down to
this particular magistrate. And that is just inexcusable. It's a
complete failure of leadership at the top.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
The campaign is going to be a grueling, arduous undertaking,
and I know you're traveling all over North Carolina. And
I know the answer anytime you say how do elections
get one is all over a state, all.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Over a community. People have to come out and vote.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
But I saw this morning, I was watching the press
conference of a lot of different Charlotte leaders. Over one
hundred people I think are murdered every year in Charlotte.
And so while Arena Zorutska the video is captivating in
an awful and eerie and horrific way, they're at least
ninety nine to other plus people who are often innocent
victims of violent crime in Charlotte. What is a reasonable
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thing that a Senate campaign can do over the next
year plus to try to shine a light on everybody
who is dying unfortunately in our large cities, often run
by Democrats, to try to change that story.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, Look, the safety of our kids and communities is
an absolute top tier issue for our campaign and President
Trump ran on this in twenty twenty four. It is
an issue set that really truly resonates all across North Carolina.
You know, for us to think about the leadership in
the state, you know, I go back to twenty twenty
when Antifa riots, they're burning down Raleigh and Roy Cooper,
(09:32):
the Governor's out there marching with them. Right. This is
not the type of leadership that we need, you know,
in democratic leadership, whether it's aoc Zorn Mamdani, Bernie Sanders,
or anybody else. You know, they're out there fighting aggressively
for criminals. They're not fighting for families and communities. And
I think that is a spotlight we're going to be
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shining from one end of the state to the other.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
And even almost exactly one year since the Hurricane Helene,
awfulness happened in western North Carolina, we traveled in there.
We have a great affiliate in Nashville. What are you
seeing of Western North Carolina? How is the recovery going
from your perspective?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Well, look, the people in the communities of western North
Carolina are so strong and so resilient. But you know,
FEMA and the Cooper administration really failed them when hurricane
came through. Uh. And so President Trump when when he
was put in office, uh won this election. Uh, And
he was sworn in his very first trip was to
(10:34):
western North Carolina and and took me along with him.
And I'm grateful for that. And and and we saw
that the devastation that was still in place, because you know,
Governor Cooper and and and President Biden had completely failed
that region. And since then, the administration has put hundreds
of millions of dollars, billions of dollars of resources, and
(10:56):
it's been in It's not just FEMA, but it has
been a whole of government. Right just last week we
saw a us DA with two hundred and twenty million
dollars of support there. We've seen one point four billion
dollars coming in and housing assistance from hud We've also
seen hundreds of millions of dollars that have come in
from the Small Business Administration to help the forty five
(11:18):
thousand small businesses that were affected by that storm. But
you know, obviously the FEMA role is tremendously important. I
appreciate President asking me to be on the FEMA Review
Council to take a look at what happened coming out
of Hurricane Helen and make sure that we don't ever
have a response like that again.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Chairman Wantley, where can folks go to help out? Learn
more about all of you above for your campaign.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Wadleyfirsenate dot com. And we certainly need a movement all
across North Carolina. It is going to be the marquee
Senate race in the entire country. You know, we go back.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
What can I ask you, Shiner, what kind of money
are the Democrats going to throw into this race?
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Would you guess?
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Just put the like if you were in a ballpark
it for me, I.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Fully expect the Democrats will spend two hundred and fifty
to three hundred million dollars in this race in North Carolina,
and they're not going to have it is It is
absolutely staggering the amount of money that the Democrats are
throwing at this And of course it's coming from Chicago,
It's coming from Saint Louis, it's coming from San Francisco,
it's coming from New York and everywhere else other than
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North Carolina. But the fact is, we need a senator
who is going to fight for every family and every
community in the state. And President Trump needs an ally
in the Senate and I'm going to be that voice.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Thank you, Chairman Watley, good luck.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
We'll have you on I'm sure again soon to talk
about the North Carolina Senate campaign, which is going to
be one of the biggest battlegrounds in all of the midterms.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Next year.
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Thank you, Yeah, thank you, guys.
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We had spoken about this in the first hour, and
I just want to remind everyone that there's another heinous
crime that I think is being overshadowed right now because
of the video of the also heinous crime. I don't
(14:37):
know how you can just running out of words to
describe how awful these things are. But this crime in
New York City, where elderly couples tied up, tortured, stabbed,
lit on fire, and yet again, is an interracial crime
from what I understand from the reporting, and the individual
(14:58):
is out and he is he is currently they're trying
to find him. And here is Jessica Tish, who is
the Commissioner of the NYPDE And as you all know,
I've many years ago worked with her at the NYPD,
and she was just making her way up the ranks.
Here she is cut eight play it.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
The NYPD is searching for the suspect in a horrific
double homicide, robbery, and arson. The person responsible for this
crime should be considered armed and dangerous. The suspect's mo
is to go door to door asking for some kind
of assistance until he can gain entry. So do not
allow anyone you don't know or who you are not
(15:38):
expecting into your home. Mister Alton was found in the
basement tied to a pole with multiple stab wounds. Missus
Alton was found on the first floor severely burned. At
this time, there is no known connection between mister McGriff,
our suspect, and our victims beyond this chance encounter.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Clay. You know, it's also, you know, I remember when
there was this whole thing about trying to ruin people's
lives by videotaping them. If they ask somebody, hey, you know,
are you if somebody tried to walk in behind you
in a building, which is a kind of a security violation,
and if it's a minority, then all of a sudden,
it's oh my gosh, you're so racist or whatever. Well,
here we're being told that this guy who's a predator,
(16:26):
who's a sexual predator, a violent maniac. His whole thing
is using the kindness and consideration of human beings to
gain access to their homes, to light them on fire
and murder them.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yeah, and I think what you are seeing is democrats
argument that violent crime is actually not a problem, is
not in any way an honest take on what most
people in America are dealing with. And it just feels
supremely tone deaf for their response to, Hey, we got
(16:59):
to walk up more violent criminals, Hey we should drive
down violent crime, Hey any more police officers, let's call
out the National Guard as needed in some cities. For
their response to be things aren't actually that bad. This
is what a dictator would do. I watched Trump. Maybe
we can talk about this a little bit. I'm sure
go out to dinner last night at a steakhouse in
DC and he got confronted by people who were chanting
(17:20):
and calling him Hitler. Was Hitler really a guy that
was committed to ending murders? I'm just tossing it out there.
It doesn't seem to me that Hitler was a overall
committed to non violence kind of guy. It's just evidence,
I think of the brokenness of their arguments. Leave us
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side politics. Everybody should be in favor of fewer violent
acts and fewer victims of art. But clay the problem here,
and this is where the Democrats have very very little leeway.
But so why some of them were getting even crazier.
We played some Mam Donni for you. Yet Mom Donnie
wants to let more people out of prison. Mam Donnie,
if he becomes mayor of New York, wants to make things.
But if Democrats admit that, if they if they have
(18:04):
a change of course here on criminal justice based on reality,
it will be an admission that they've been wrong all along.
And they won't do that, you know, That's that's the
thing they They would rather people keep dying that admit
that they were wrong and we were right this whole time.
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Speaker 4 (19:20):
Our good friend, We're gonna have some fun.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
In the third hour two, our good friend Kamala Harris
has had her first excerpts of what is it one
hundred and nine days or one hundred and seven days?
I can't remember how long, the one hundred and seven days,
how long her campaign was, and we mentioned this off
the top. She has decided to throw Joe Biden under
(19:43):
the bus, and there are here let me read you
the quotes.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Buck.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
This is from The Atlantic, which has gotten the first
excerpt rights of Kamala's magisterial work of political brilliance.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I'm sure she was up late at night typing out
all the for herself, grinding.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Grinding, No telling how many bottles of wine she went
through late at night as she contemplated such complex stories.
And of all the people in the White House, this
is Kamala. I was in the worst position to make
the case that he should drop out. I knew it
would come off to him as incredibly self serving. If
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I advised him not to run. He would see it
as naked ambition, perhaps as poisonous disloyalty. Even if my
only message was don't let the other guy win. It's
Joe and Jill's decision. We all said that like a mantra,
as if we'd all been hypnotized. Was it grace or
(20:42):
was it recklessness? In retrospect, I think it was recklessness.
The stakes were simply too high. This wasn't a choice
that should have been left to an individual's ego, an
individual's ambition. It should have been more than a personal decision. Okay,
takes her like a year or coming up in almost
(21:03):
a year of takes.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Her ghost writer a year.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
But yes, yes, to say that it was reckless for
Joe Biden to run. Now there's gonna be a battle
over this. I'm sure the Biden people are fuming over
these comments that Kamala Harris is making.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
To me Buck.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
It reignites my belief that she is trying to set
the table to run in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
I think she may be trying. I think she may
be trying. But this is part of the problem that
she has, Clay, is that she comes across as as weak, ineffective,
and vindictive in this No matter what right, she was
unable to stop him until it was too late, and
then she got destroyed, and now she's trying to, after
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the fact, justify it. She is marked as a loser,
a loser in this whole thing and the other thing,
the other part of it that I believe, well, certainly
we will talk about here. The only reason she of
course doesn't address this in the book. I don't have
to read the book to know this, or she doesn't
say this. The only reason that Joe Biden was so
(22:12):
reckless and pushed along, and this is why I thought
he would take it to the end. The only reason
this was even possible is because Kamala was such a
disaster as a candidate in waiting and they knew it.
They picked her for DEI reasons. They picked her because
Biden wanted a black woman to be his vice president.
They did not pick her based upon political talent and
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her ability to be the next president of the United States,
and they knew that, which is why Biden was able
to steamroll her. The dementia patient was able to say
to the White House Clay, credibly, I'm a better option
than she is, even though you all know I'm not.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Up for this. What about this line?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
And I come back to this because usually political books
are really boring because they're basically written by big mishmash
of political advisors and they go through with their red
pen and they're like, oh, gotta be careful here. The
gay lobby is going to be offended by this paragraph.
(23:14):
Oh are we sure we want to say this? The
unions are going to be unhappy with this, and so
it comes across as a poll tested mishmash of uninteresting.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Glot glob glot.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
And when she says, we all said that like a mantra,
as if we'd been hypnotized. The only there are two
jobs for a president. Really, this is the job of
any politician. One is decision making, two is communication. That's
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basically the whole job. When you tell me that you
can be hypnotized by a dementia patient, it doesn't make
me think, oh, this is someone who's going to be
able to handle actually difficult decisions. So when I saw
that hypnotize, everybody's focused on the recklessness. That's a lie
we all know. But her trying to say I was
hypnotized reminds me of was it Mitt Romney's dad, George
(24:13):
I believe, who said he was brainwashed on I think
it was George Romney who said he was brainwashed to
support the Vietnam war And and somebody said, well, that's
not true. All it would take is a light rinsing,
which is one of the which is one of the
you know, best kind of counters ever team looked that up.
(24:34):
But that basically is letting everybody know, Hey, it's waving
your hand, as if we needed more evidence you're not
a leader. And also your decision making is not very good.
And so when I saw the hypnotized line, the fact
that they said it was reckless. Yeah, of course it
was reckless. We all know that it took her a
(24:55):
year to get to that poll tested word choice and
answer it. But the hypnotized thing kind of slipped, didn't
Did I get that wrong?
Speaker 3 (25:01):
No? No, no, no. I was just going to say that,
I think the Biden, even for Democrats, the Biden administration
is going to be something they wished to forget, and
I think Kamala is going to have to carry the
burden of being a reminder of the deeply flawed and
disastrous for Democrats. I'm not even forget about what we
(25:22):
think as Republicans. I think Democrats recognize that Biden was
a Yeah, he stopped Trump for four years, but what
he really did was like send Trump along with Rocky
to go train in Siberia and come back as super Trump.
You know it didn't Yeah, he didn't actually have the
intended effect. That's one of the greatest montages of all time,
(25:43):
and that's all you guys don't know what I'm talking about.
Sylvester Sloan's up to his knees in the snow and
it's like a hearts fire.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
You know.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Anyway, you get what I'm saying. That's what happened to Trump.
He was doing the push ups in the snow, and
he came back better than ever. And so I think
that Kamala Biden, for all of his failures, Clay or
rather for all of his shortcomings, was a reminder for
Democrats of the golden age of eight years of Obama,
and that was a huge asset. It was a huge
(26:10):
asset for him with the black community, huge asset for
him with the Democrats in general. Kamala is a reminder of.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
The Biden administration.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
I think that could be politically endgame. I think it
could be all over well. I think that's an interesting angle.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
By the way, it was George Romney nineteen sixty seven
who claimed that he had been brainwashed and on Vietnam
but to say, you've been hypnotized to me, it had
an evocation of that comment which haunted George Romney and
even his son to a certain extent for years into
the future.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
To your point.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
I think that's one of the great unanswered questions going forward.
Will the cabinet members of Biden be held accountable by
voters for not speaking out?
Speaker 4 (26:57):
That could be Mayor.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
These are the people who think they have a political
career going forward, Mayor Pete Kamala Harris. I'm not sure
how many of the others are as connected to Biden
as those two would be as potential runners in twenty
twenty eight. But this I'm not going to read the
whole book, although I will go see Kamala Harris in
my future is female Rachel Maddow specks t shirt.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
And are you going have we? Is this happening? You're going?
I love this? I love this.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
I bought the most expensive tickets to Kamala Harris's book
event at the Ryman Auditorium in Nashville, so I almost hope.
I could probably not talk about it anymore because I
can see myself getting disallowed to enter the event. So
maybe I should keep quiet and just give us a
full book report when I actually go. But reading some
(27:50):
of these excerpts from the Atlantic, because I'm certainly not
going to read the whole book because it sounds like
the worst worst punishment out there. I saw some guys
joking about this is the ultimate. Sometimes guys set up
and gals uh in your fantasy football league. If you lose,
you try to come up with an awful punishment for
the guy who comes in last place. And I think
(28:11):
having to read Kamala Harris's book and do a full
book report on it would be phenomenal punishment for somebody
out there in a fantasy football league. Like you have
to read the whole thing and write up like you're
a kid, you know, a seven page review of the
Kamala Harris book.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
I think it would be really really funny.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Just promise me that if you get the opportunity, if
anyone confronts you at the Kamala book reading in it
with any hostility, that you will accuse them of misgendering you.
Because there, I'm telling you, the wires will crawl, they
will have no idea, they'll they won't know what to say.
Just be like, I'm sorry, are you assuming min jen?
Are you misgendering me? All you have to say and
(28:49):
they will It's like throwing uh, you know, water on
the gremlins or I guess that's bad because then there's
more gremlins. But you know what I mean, it's it's
quickly nervous book.
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Because I was doing a Google search the other day
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I'm gonna buy I'm trying to find the perfect future
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All right, welcome back in here to Clay and Buck.
We're gonna get some calls here momentarily. But first up,
crocket coffee, my friends, drink America's most delicious coffee. Uh
code book. You get a lot one of the last
nine copies of Clay's old book, American Playbook. So they're
collector's items now, even more so the sign come.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Let me say this too on that buck. Laura Travis
wants these books gone. We are moving into a new house.
The lovely Katie is about to have her second baby.
These things need to be gone. So the new book's
gonna be out in November. You got a new book
coming out in January. My wife is like the she
(31:41):
sold the couch out of my out of my office.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Buck.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
You don't want you don't want Clay to be in
trouble with Lara. All right, I'm just telling you it's bad.
It's bad. You got a high play out here.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
I bought a I bought a a couch.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
Buck.
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First of all, go to Crockettcoffee dot com. Go subscribe,
use codebook, Get these things out of here. I think
I told you this off. I bought a blue leather
couch old Blue. Wow, amazing couch, blue leather. Two thousand
and one. When I started law school. I went out
to rooms to go, I think, and I bought a
(32:14):
four hundred dollars I remember, four hundred dollar couch. I
was like, this is the most amazing thing at old blue,
blue leather couch. I have had it now for twenty
four years.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Did you really call your couch old blue? Because carry me.
I had a couch that I called old Gray, was
big and comfy and over stuffed. And Carrie, when we
got married, it was like taking old Yellow out back.
I had to like put a bullet in old Gray
and take my couch and give it away to like,
you know, one of the giveaway places. Very sad.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
I walked up into my office and Old Blue was gone.
There was no discussion about the couch being removed. I
don't even know who took it out. I sat down
where I sit. You didn't even get to say goodbye
to old Blue. I didn't get say well, oh blue
was on the front Old Blue was on the front porch.
Laura had another garage cell buck over the over the weekend.
(33:07):
My wife, I think if she could be a professional
garage cell person. This is like the dream of all
dreams for her. Old Blue was on the front porch.
Somebody I don't know who bought it. I had that
couch for twenty four years, four hundred dollars, twenty four years.
Great return, and Laura sold it for one hundred bucks.
(33:30):
She sold Old Blue for one hundred bucks.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Old Gray was like a brother to me. Man, Old
Gray was there for me for years. You know. It
was that couch was way too big for the part
of the tiny apartment I had in New York. It
was like I had to move everything just to make
room for the couch, and you could pretty much touch
both like walls front and back from it. But man,
that couch, it was. It was always there for me,
rough day at work, Old Gray was there. Old Blue.
(33:54):
That same thing is mine was like a fabric, though
yours was leather. That's some real man cave stuff.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Oh yeah, I mean it's like remember the movie boiler
Room back in the day, where those guys were wealthy
traders and they based it's.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
An underrated I think that's an underrated movie. It's a
good film.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
They had awesome places. You probably some of you women
who have dated, you know, guys in their twenties or
probably early thirties, have been in this situation where you
walk in in the apartment or the house or the
condo or whatever's kind of nice, but there's nothing on
the walls. There is basically a big comfortable couch, a
huge flat screen television, right and that, and then make
(34:32):
maybe a bed on like not even with a stand,
but like a big, king sized bed.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Maybe some Chinese takeout or pizza boxes in a corner,
not even necessarily stacked, just in a corner.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
When Laura started dating me Buck, she came to the
place where I was living, where Old Blue and I
were bachelor patting it, and she said, where are your
pots and pants? I've been this place for like a year,
so where do you keep your pots and pants? I
was like, I don't think I have pots. I don't
think I have pots and pans. Not only did I
(35:05):
not have them, I had never thought to myself, you
know what I'm really missing here is pots and pans.
When she asked it, was. I'd never even had the
thought that I should have pots and pans. How old
were you when you bought your first Well, so you've
been married, so this is different. But I didn't buy
a headboard for a bed until I think I was
like forty years old. I just got a bed with
(35:29):
pillows on it. Then I slept on head I mean,
most guys don't have me. You just have like a
big mattress and like something to put the mattress on,
some sort of box springs. But even the larger construct
of the bed, most guys don't have that. The first
thing I bought that I was super proud to buy
was a flat screen television. Old Blue was close, but
(35:49):
a flat screen television. I really thought I had made it.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Nobody this Old Blue and Old Gray would have been
good friends. I didn't know it was. This was the thing.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
You know.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Gerard Ali's Husband's kind of am allusion, very handsome man. Uh.
He had a black leather couch that she made him.
We're just we're just finding out. They got married and
black leather couch got sent sent to the the glue factory,
so to speak. I hope that couch has a good
life from here because I feel like twenty four years
(36:19):
we've made a good made a good team. And then
I just walked into my office and the point is
everything is getting taken out because we're moving into a
new house and I just walk in and things are disappearing.
Go get all the books at Crockettcoffee dot com. Uh
before who knows where those books end up. You can
use code book and uh just pour one out for
(36:39):
Old Blue if you would. As we finish off the
hour Old Blue, and I was disappointed that I missed.
I missed out on the Clay Clay Travis tag sale.
I mean I feel like I could have gotten some
great stuff, some good deals. Uh yeah, I think Laura
made us sixty eight dollars. I mean there's no telling
I'm gonna be able to buy one half of a scan.
Not that the irs knows about my friend. You know
(36:59):
what I'm saying, all cash, baby, I gotta I gotta
be careful. Yeah, sixty eight one dollar bills. So look out, world,
we had a weekend here. When we come back, we'll
dive into more than what's going on gen Z, We'll
tell you
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