December 2, 2024 • 36 mins
80% of people said they would pardon their son if they were president. And WHAT is happening at MSNBC? Their ratings are tanking since the election. Texas football fans used fake credentials to try to enter the football stadium and got arrested.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in our number two Klay Travis Buck Sexton show Buck.
Did you watch any football at all over the Thanksgiving holiday?
Did you watch any NFL games? Did you watch any
college football?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
My dad and I watched a game of football on Thanksgiving.
I do not remember who was in it. The Lions,
the Lions.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
That was the early kick. The Lions played against the
Bears on the early kick. I've been a lot of
people out there watched college football. I've got a funny
story for you that I will hit you with that
I think you will enjoy. Buck, at the end of
this hour, just remind me to well or maybe at
the end of the next hour.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I just flagged it.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
It is very funny having to do with the Texas
A and M game against Texas Battle of the State
of Texas that went the Texas Longhorns away.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
But we'll get into that in a little bit. The
question that I think.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Is out there that many parents are asking themselves, like,
we all know Joe Biden is a liar. We all
know that he behaved in a way that would benefit
his family. I think to your question, Buck, that he
is likely to end up pardoning others in the days
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weeks ahead, but before he loses his power. But I
do think the question of would you pardon your own
son if you were president of the United States factors
in here about the necessity of the lie buck, Why
did you feel compelled to lie? So I asked this question.
(01:37):
I'm going to retweet it right now at Clay Travis
on Twitter. If you were president of the United States
and your son was facing prison time for gun and
drug felony convictions, would you pardon him? Twenty thousand people
so far voted in this pull buck that I just retweeted.
(01:57):
What do you think the results are? Said said before
that you would pardon your son. You don't have a
kid yet, but soon hopefully. I've said that I would
as well. And again, I do think there's a deligonation
the reason why I put those particular charges in. Did
I say it again?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
You did it again?
Speaker 1 (02:16):
That's the way that I'm going to pronounce that word.
I do think there is a distinction between if your
son was charged with murder or if he were charged
with a relatively.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
In this case, non violent offense. Right. You know, the
writer Christopher Hitchins, whom I always admired for his writing
skill and his fearlessness. Didn't agree with them on everything,
but agreed with them on some important things. He used
to say that he called it the lunch test, where
when you sit down with somebody for the first time
and you're having lunch and they say, you know, oh
I you know, I yeah, I ran in some tax
(02:52):
problems or some insider trading. You say, all right, you know,
no big deal, like you're not a bad guy. Stuff happens,
you know, you paid your to society. Whatever. Sit down
and someone's like, yeah, you know, guilty of like two
murderers or you know something really hateous. You probably don't
finish the lunch, right, I mean, I think the same
thing applies to the part in even of a family member.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
So eighty percent of you said you would pardon your
son if you were president in this situation. So buck
when I see those numbers, and that's about what I
would have expected. And by the way, the counter argument,
which Carol Markowitz shared is, actually, guys, the reason Hunter
ends up behaving the way that he does in his
(03:34):
forties and on into his fifties is because there never
have been consequences levied against him for his past misbehaviors,
and I do think there's a strong argument there. In
other words, the failure to hold Hunter accountable in his
youth is what led to his adult transgressions. Now some
(03:56):
will say, oh, well, he was a drug addict, so
he wasn't aware of what he I'm not giving him
a pass on that, because you have to be pretty
committed to extorting millions of dollars out of your dad's associates,
and even if you're a drug addict. So I don't
buy the drug addict argument here. I think Hunter might
(04:18):
have gotten more money and been more efficient and effective
at the Biden crime family if he hadn't been a
drug addict. In other words, I don't buy that the
drug addiction caused this behavior. I think that's a lie. Yes,
I think the sloppiness was a result of the addiction.
The addiction wasn't the cause of the criminality. That's a
different thing. And I think that he probably would have
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gotten away with all of this intel. First of all,
have you ever left your laptop somewhere Clay for so long?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Think about this? You're left like the one thing I've
show you, the same thing. We live our lives in thoughts,
and communications and writing. Right that you would leave your
laptop somewhere and just forget about it. I'm crazy. That's
a that's a druggy move right there. That's not something
that you would normally do. Uh. And that's what led
to all of this in the first place, or at
(05:08):
least I should say, that's what blew it all open.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
You know John Solomon when I was at the Hill,
I give him credit. He was on the Hunter bide
In Beisma stuff super early and writing about it there
and had had a lot of the you know, the
the early evidence about that. But the laptop thing blew
it wide open. And the the thing that here is
as well, the criminality is this isn't really a question
(05:33):
of alleged right. This is one thing that they always
leave out. They would say about Trump going into this election.
They would they would always say, you know, he they
would say things like he's a sexual assaulter or like
he is you know, he's he's a he's a rapist,
and then they would try to do the oh, the
civil case proves that he is. No, the civil case
doesn't prove that actually, and that's not the standard for
(05:55):
criminal conviction. For a good reason the things that they
accused Trump or even some of the people in Trump's
orbit are disputed. Right. Trump doesn't say, yeah, I did
the crime, but I'm not doing the time. He says
I didn't do it. With Hunter Biden, No one thinks
that he didn't. Like, he's agreed that he didn't pay taxes,
(06:15):
he's agreed that he was getting paid this money. It's
known that he didn't that he was a drug user
when he checked the form. Paying prostitutes is also illegal
in the states that he was in, by the way,
Like and drug use, cocaine crack I think was crack.
It wasn't a crack. Oh yeah it crack? Yeah, Hunter
good heavens, those are all crimes. You see what I mean.
(06:37):
It's not they they like to equate the Biden stuff
with the Trump stuff, but the Hunter Biden stuff, and
I would argue some of the Joe Biden stuff that's
connected to it, But the Hunter Biden stuff is public record,
law breaking. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, Oh,
there was not a single thing that they have accused
Donald Trump of where he goes, Yeah, I broke the
law on that, but you know, no big deal. He's
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like I didn't break any law.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Also, Trump got impeached for asking about Hunter Biden's illegal behavior. Yes,
I know everyone wants to pretend that that didn't happen.
The phone call that he had with Zolenski before the
invasion happened between Russia and Ukraine. The first Ukraine story
was Trump saying, hey, maybe you can look into whether
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the Biden crime family is actually the Biden crime family,
which they are, and the corruption there. They did nothing
to Hunter. Hunter now has got a get out of
jail free. The entire Biden family has gotten to get
out of jail free. They tried to impeach Donald Trump
for merely bringing it up. I do think that's significant.
But I also think this ties in with the calculus
(07:45):
from Biden. Fuck if he had just come out and said, hey,
what you said, which is I don't think it's appropriate
for any president to prejudge any decision as it pertains
to a hardening anyone when my ternment office is coming
to a close, I will look at it. That would
(08:07):
have been a fine answer. We would have known probably
what he was gonna do. But it's not a lie. Instead,
I think this is really important. They all sat down
and said we're just gonna lie, because politically it would
be so toxic. We think for him to say that
he might even consider a pardon, that we're just gonna
(08:28):
directly lie and after the election will do it anyway.
But Buck, if my numbers are correct, if seventy eight
percent of people or eighty percent of people understand that
they would pardon their own son if given that power,
I don't even know that they're right that it would
have been politically damaging, but for the lawfair against Trump,
(08:50):
which is what the hypocrisy would have been hard to overlook.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I would also say, if Joe Biden were a man
of any honor, which he is not, he could come
out and say, my son, you know, my son has
suffered from addiction. It you know, it's been very difficult
as a father, I've suffered. You know. He talks about
the tragedies in his life for political a lot all
the time. There's that photo that's being shared right now
(09:16):
of him being sworn in as a senator with his
son still in the host. Sociopathy, just the like sociopathic
exploitation of family tragedy for political gain. So it's not
like he's above this. But if he came out and said, look,
it's my son. I love my son. He's a drug addict,
he didn't hurt anybody. He kind of screwed over the government,
and I'm not letting him go to prison, I would say,
(09:39):
you know, well, he still would have lied about it
the whole time, but at least now you'd say, well,
he's coming clean with this. They're not even coming clean today.
They're pretending that there has been a persecution of Hunter.
This is what Biden in his statement that the reason
he has to pardon him is the fear of Trump
doing extra league or unfair partisan things to his son.
(10:03):
So he's not even taking blame for it. Now, do
you see what I mean. It's not even like, look,
my son messed up, I love him, I'm pardoning him.
It's well, we have to because of Trump.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
And that picture of him getting sworn in is and
we've talked about this on the show a lot, and
I'm sure many of you have seen it. In the
wake of that car accident, which he lied about, of course,
because he's lied about everything. His wife ran a red light,
right like they claimed that she got hit by a
drunk driver, but actually it was her failure. It's awful, right,
(10:32):
we don't want anybody get a bad car accident. But
they tried to claim that a drunk driver hit her.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
And that's not a victimless lie because someone out there
was involved in that very traumatic accident and it, by
all events, by all the data, or you know, all
the facts we have, was not his fault. Correct. And
to be called a reckless drunk driver who calls the
murder of I mean, or the death of a woman
I should say, which could be vehicular manslaughter, it's a
(10:56):
horrible lie to say. It's not a victimless lie.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Also, it's enough, I mean, does anybody if you are
unfortunate enough. It's just an example of Biden being willing
to lie even when it's unnecessary. Like Biden's lies oftentimes
start in some form of truth and then skyrocket and
spiral into a different world. But he could have been
(11:19):
sworn in anywhere. The fact that he made his kids
get dressed up in their hospital beds and they took
a photo of him being sworn in with his kids
in their hospital beds.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
This is not a good dude.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I'm sorry, it's just it's not a good dude, and
I come back to it's a ten year get out
of jail free card. And again much of the focus
is on Hunter, but really what Joe Biden is doing
is protecting Joe Biden, because if he gives Hunter a pardon,
it becomes more difficult to come after the Biden crime family.
(11:54):
Because Hunter's interactions with all of these foreign oligarchs. I
think it's fair to call them that were the pivot
point by which the payments all arrived for the Biden
crime family. And it is perfect distillation of the hypocrisy
here that Democrats have argued for years no one is
(12:15):
above the law as justification for why Trump should be prosecuted,
and then right now we clearly see Hunter Biden clearly
above the law.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I mean again, I'm not I'm not trying to relitigate
after the fact you won the most expensive stake. I
think in the history of the universe. That's fine, that's fine.
They should have run Joe and then had him do
the part in step down and pivot to Kamala. This
would have been a better move, meaning step down if
Biden won the election, right, because now the whole they've
(12:47):
got the Biden the Biden family is done and tarnished.
Kamala is done as a political candidate. This is why
you can really sense it. There's like devastation at the
top of the Democrat Party right now because they don't
even have a brand to carry the resistance going forward.
They got nothing right now.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
They swept the deck clean. It will be a positive
by midterms. When I think this is an early prediction,
you can flag it. I think Democrats will take back
the House in twenty twenty six, which is one reason
why Republicans have to act so quickly and really only
have about eighteen months to get anything done until you
lose control of the House. I think Republicans will keep
(13:26):
the Senate, but they now have the ability to figure
out who is the face of the party without having
to have Kamala there now as the black woman that
they can't get past because she's black and a woman
and all they care about is identity politics. She got
crushed and I think her political career is over. I
think she's Michael Ducacus. I think they're going to have
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her off on some sinecure job that she doesn't have
to work for where she gets paid millions of dollars
and I don't think she'll ever run for anything again.
And we haven't even I think that awful video which
we haven't that happened why we were not on air.
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I don't even know who's signed off on that video,
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You know, one thing that is definitely going to be
at the top of the Trump agenda, as we've all
been discussing and preparing for, is what to do about
the deep state, what to do about the DJ the abuses,
the extremely unfair treatment of January sixth involved defendants. You
(15:59):
know the term now, Clay that the generally the pro
criminal left uses is justice involved. You know, that's the
new thing. So you know, if somebody, if like a
cartel hitman, kills seven people and you know, cuts off
their heads and throws them in the closet or something.
Is justice involved? You know it's a justice involved individual.
Oh okay, he's involved with justice? Yeah really? Or welly
(16:23):
in terminology. My point here, though, is the battle to
deal with the true deep state operations within the FBI,
the extremely unfair treatment of January sixth defendants, the tactics
that were used to go after some of them, to
ruin their lives. What happened on January sixth? Who is
(16:45):
the pipe bomber? Remember how there were pipe bombs? We
never found that. We got cameras everywhere. You have probably
more law enforcement in Washington, DC at that period of
time than anywhere else. It's certainly in the United States,
maybe on the planet, except for like I don't know,
some parts of Beijing. You've got all this law enforcement.
They can't figure out who left the bombs there. That
(17:05):
seems quite strange. Also, were there any informants? Were there
any undercover FBI agents in the January sixth crowd? We
can get answers to that, now, real answers, Because if
people think they can destroy those files play, that's official
misuse of position, that's official misconduct, that's a crime. You
can't actually destroy those files.
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seems to me that many of the social media companies
(17:50):
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And I don't think that's coincidental. Same thing can happen
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Speaker 1 (18:53):
Welcome back in, Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I just saw this and I think it's tied in.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
And there is a reordering that is going on right
now in the media that is massively important, and I
think it's got long range consequences. MSNBC. Buck just hit
a twenty year ratings low. They had just thirty eight
(19:21):
thousand viewers in the twenty five to fifty four targeted
age group range that tends to consume media and be
very valuable for advertisers. That's unheard of. And what's going on.
I got a thesis for you. You'll like it, Buck,
(19:42):
because it takes you back in time to the nineteen eighties.
The best, in my humble opinion, when I was a
kid I'm now ready to recognize that I was wrong.
I thought the best Indiana Jones movie, Buck, was Temple
of Doom in the nineteen eighties. In retrospect, it's the
(20:03):
worst of the nineteen eighties era movies. The Last Crusade
I think is the best. Then Raiders of the Lost Arc,
then Temple of Doom. They're all very good. We're not
talking about the two additional ones. But there is a
moment in that movie, Temple of Doom, where Indiana Jones
has drank the blood serum and has lost his ability
(20:27):
to think rationally, and he is a member of the
cult that is supporting this Indian priest.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Spoiler alert, by the way, if you.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Hadn't said if you haven't seen Temple of Doom, and
short Round runs up to him and burns him, and
when he has burned, he suddenly sees the truth. An
optimist in me, Buck thinks that Trump's election for a
lot of the woke American population has had that Short
(21:02):
Round branding Indiana Jones and waking him up from the cult,
that they were a part of moment. And there's evidence
for this. And I've been asking this question, if you
had been lied to about everything surrounding COVID. If you'd
been lied to about very fine people and Donald Trump
being a Nazi and all these things, at some point,
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wouldn't you have to wake up? Wouldn't you have to
recognize that much of what you had come to believe
was actually false. I think there is finally a reckoning
taking place at MSNBC at CNN, with many different left
wing commenters out there, and this latest Biden pardon of
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Hunter is yet another thing. You may not agree with
this show on a day to day basis, but over
the last four years, we've gotten almost everything that is
very consequential.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Right. We've told you where things were headed, We've told
you what the outcomes were likely to be. And when
we're wrong, and I was wrong.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
About twenty twenty two, we come on and say, hey,
we got something wrong.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Have you ever heard anybody explained why we think it?
Got it? People? Or was? You know? And they're not
standing out because we nailed this election boom. But some people,
being a little bit of doubting, you know, being a
little bit of doubters, would say, well, what about the
red wave? In twenty twenty two there was a surge
of Republican voters. It just surged in the wrong places
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at the wrong time to get the electro outcome we wanted.
New York California Republicans were able to deliver the House
because there were a lot more read votes there. And
you know, look, we had a couple of week candidates.
Things didn't go your way, but that wasn't off by
a lot. The media that we're talking about, I mean
Clay they said not only the Hunter Biden wasn't going
(22:57):
to get pardon, They told everybody the Joe Biden was fine.
I think in the back of people's minds, the cover
up of the Biden dementia situation, which MSNBC were huge,
you know, in the vanguard. They were the cheerleaders, cheerleaders
for this. To anyone who is discerning and paying attention
to the narrative creation machinery that is the news media,
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you had to look at everything that they were going
to say about the twenty twenty four election. Anybody who
said that Biden's fine, well, clearly he wasn't, and clearly
they should have known that, and clearly they did know that.
So everything else they say about Kamala you gotta think
these people are liars.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
And how about the fact that they pivoted from Kamala
is the worst VP and they potentially should consider replacing
her to joint Read on election night claimed that she
ran a flawless campaign.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
And then my favorite election night analysis, by the way,
that was the best thing set all in all election night.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Can we pull that, by the way, because I think
she said, do you remember what she followed it up with?
She ran such a flawless campaign. You know who endorsed
Joe Biden, I mean, sorry, Kamala Harris, Queen Latifa, that.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Was I mean, I'm not even making this up. This
was her argument.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Joy Read at the collapsing MSNBC network said that Kamala
ran such a phenomenal campaign that even Queen Latifa, who
never endorses anybody, endorsed Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Kid.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
The one thing that I feel very confident of buck
is celebrity endorsements is basically open, like as I think
social media has.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Okay, social media first undermined the people at the New
York Times, who at ten am would put out on
Twitter Trump is Hitler and then go on CNN at
seven pm and say, well, I'm just a journalist. I
don't have opinions. That was the beginning of the end
for them because we saw it was a matter of
public record in a sense, what they really thought. And
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with celebrities, you know, we figured out they are real,
really dumb. Not all of them, right, There are smart celebrities,
and there are smart celebrities who don't agree with us.
I'm not saying that everybody who votes Democrat who's a
celebrity is dumb, but a lot of the pop culture
political voices out there, you know, and you know now
they're saying that Clooney felt like he was bullied into
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bullying Biden out of the race. These people have just
no shame. They have no brain, and they're trying all
this stuff. But because we see them on social media
and they can expose what they really think. Did you
see the Jane Fonda thing with Bill Maher. I mean,
I know she's she's an older woman. Did you see
these some of these clips play she doesn't think that
(25:40):
California has enough regulation. She's living on another planet. She
lives in a reality that does not exist. I have
done enough TV and even some movies. Thank you, Daily Wire.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
The idea that actors and actresses are uniquely smart and
perceptive on anything.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Is maybe the dumbest.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Thing that has ever taken root in American modern history.
The data reflects that the more obsessed you are with celebrities,
the dumber you yourself tend to be. And I'm not
saying I don't like watching television shows or whatever else,
but they're actors and actresses like they actually don't have
a great depth of knowledge in anything else. They sit
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around in a trailer all day, memorize a few lines,
go out and do it like twenty five different times.
I would be bored to death being an actor. I've
done movies, I've done television, I've filmed a lot of
stuff over the years. We are live right now, you
and I talking. Thank the Lord. Everything we say, for
(26:44):
better or worse, goes out to everybody. If we had
to do the same take over and over and over again,
I would shoot myself in the head. Like these are
awful in many ways jobs for many people out there.
The idea that we ever allowed these people to be
considered voices of of of of unique perception in America
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has been exploded. I also think Buck, there's a whole
there's so much celebrity now that it.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Used to be there was mystery. It's diffuse, it's a
it's a it's look in the in the modern era.
If you're a one, if you're a young woman who
is just outrageously good looking, like you won the genetics lottery,
and you want to be famous, there's one hundred percent
chance you're gonna be famous. Yeah, okay. And if you're
a young guy and you know, you really want to
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find a way and you're willing to kind of work
on your craft or whatever. I'm talking about these YouTubers
and you know Instagram and TikTok, which by the way,
isn't being banned. And now Trump is on and conservatives
are on. It was just me and Jamal Bowman for
a while, their play Me and my buddy Jamal Bowman.
You that TikTok I.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Was partly on the Jamal Bowman buck buck Sexton train.
I wanted and I still think it's important that Chinese
interests not be able to own TikTok, but I think
that company should exist.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
You can't just like smash a company because it has
some foreign ownership and you're just deciding you don't like it.
I mean, that's a really bad precedent. So anyway, it's
also really fun. I've learned how to seer and reverse
seer and Suvid steaks like nobody's business thanks to TikTok.
A lot of good gun content by the way, on
well YouTube, particularly with TikTok as well. So until they
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probably get rid of it all soon, Clay, I would
just say the ability to be famous for nothing that
requires discipline and honestly a lot of luck. Is it's
easier to get famous now that it's ever been, So
being really famous doesn't really mean all that much. It's
it's less powerful than it used to be to a
(28:46):
lot of people. You know, there was a time when
if you were a top Hollywood actor, every pronouncement you
would make on everything was somehow in the news. Oh
you know. And this is also I think this is
to the discredit or to the the week not to
get into this conversation, and we are going to talk
about New York City migrants coming up in the next
hour and what I saw there and what's going on.
Also the Daniel pennycase, the updates on that, So more
(29:10):
news coming your way in a second. But Clay, the
British royal family. They were kind of the original reality
TV show Superstars in a sense, or reality Superstars, And
I just think now there's just so much other noise
out there that it doesn't sell newspapers quite the way
it used to. Yeah, and I also this is the
other thing that I think is huge in terms of
(29:31):
the way the media is shattering and being rebuilt in
real time. It used to be someone who had a
platform had to say I'm going to make you famous.
You got selected to be on Friends, you became a
columnist at the New York Times. Somebody put you on
MSNBC or ESPN or Fox News or whatever it was
(29:56):
and basically said you're going to be famous. Not to
say those people are not talented, but that was somebody
on high producers owners. They decided who the figures were
that we all saw and that were famous. To your point,
now anybody can become famous instantaneously on TikTok, on YouTube,
(30:21):
on Instagram. I'm not saying it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Take work, but the top down model of I'm going
to make you famous does not really exist in the
same way. It's a bottom up policy. And again, the
name on the back of the Jersey. The way that
I would sum that up matters more now than the
name on the front. It used to be like, I'm
with the Washington Post, and therefore you should talk to me.
(30:44):
And now a lot of people are like, so, what,
like the top down mantra in media is collapsing.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
You know, I've been in this game, especially on the
conservative media side of things. Play well, I've been a
consumer of it for oh my gosh, I don't know now,
like almost thirty years, and and working at it for
almost fifteen years. And this is kind of the dream
of conservative media commentary stretching back to the you know,
(31:11):
the early days of Rush and then and then the
rise of the Internet and Fox News, and would be
that the Washington Post no longer held any sway over
the public mind outside of their own very partisan readership.
And I think we're we're pretty much there, or getting
close to there, meaning no one. And a perfect example
(31:33):
of this is when The New York Times ran a
front page article on Tucker Carlson saying he's a white nationalist,
and everybody who wasn't emotionally destabilized by Trump laughed and
was like, yeah, sure, Tucker, right, nice try and by
the way, to Tucker's credit, he posed posed with the article,
laughing at it, and it got far more distribution than
(31:56):
the actual article itself. Yeah. So some of these cycle
logical chains, bonds that the corporate media, that the establishment
corporate media has had, they are actually broken right now.
I mean some are still breaking, some are broken. But
this is a big change, which is also why I
think the Democrats are trying to figure out what do
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Speaker 1 (34:10):
So there was a big game over the weekend primetime game.
Congratulations Texas Longhorns for the win over Texas A and M.
Seventeen to seven primetime game going to have a massive
audience there was. There was a bunch of arrests, as
one might imagine surrounding the big game, not just at
(34:31):
Texas A and M, but every big game.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
But there were two guys.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Tickets were so expensive Buck that two guys dressed as
fake construction workers and tried to.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Sneak in while claiming that they were construction workers. They
had made their own credentials. I don't know if this
is a fraternity prank. They were arrested again. They had
names on their credentials to work as construction workers. Inside
of the game.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
A twenty one year old from College station their moms
and dads might be listening, by the way, because we
are huge all over Texas and a twenty two year
old from the Houston area were arrested. The names on
their fake credentials. I can barely say it with a
straight face. Were Harry Askrack and Duncan mccochinner.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Somebody's parents got a phone somebody's parents got a phone
call that their college sons had been I don't know,
I honestly, And by the way, here's the official report.
Two men wearing reflective vests and hard hats entered the
stadium with fake construction credentials. They were arrested for criminal trespass.
(35:48):
Mom and dad may be listening to us right now.
I don't know how mom reacted.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
I guarantee you that Dad had a really hard time,
even though you don't want to get your kid arrested
in college when he found now that the two kids
were going with fake construction credentials to sneak into the
game under the names Harry as Crack and Duncan mccon McCone.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
There is no dat alive that kept the straight face.
I'm sorry all of you out there right now are done.
I hope the parents or the grandparents are sneak us
right now, because when I saw this come across my
Twitter feed, I just I could not keep a straight face.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
I mean, this is one of the funniest things. Just amazing.
I can't really follow so much. What's the worst thing.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
I can just imagine these kids, like, what's the worst
thing that's gonna happen. Of course we're gonna get in
the game. You just go as Harry ass crack. I'll
go as Duncan mccochin or it's genius.
Welcome in our number two Klay Travis Buck Sexton show Buck.
Did you watch any football at all over the Thanksgiving holiday?
Did you watch any NFL games? Did you watch any
college football?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
My dad and I watched a game of football on Thanksgiving.
I do not remember who was in it. The Lions,
the Lions.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
That was the early kick. The Lions played against the
Bears on the early kick. I've been a lot of
people out there watched college football. I've got a funny
story for you that I will hit you with that
I think you will enjoy. Buck, at the end of
this hour, just remind me to well or maybe at
the end of the next hour.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I just flagged it.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
It is very funny having to do with the Texas
A and M game against Texas Battle of the State
of Texas that went the Texas Longhorns away.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
But we'll get into that in a little bit. The
question that I think.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Is out there that many parents are asking themselves, like,
we all know Joe Biden is a liar. We all
know that he behaved in a way that would benefit
his family. I think to your question, Buck, that he
is likely to end up pardoning others in the days
(01:17):
weeks ahead, but before he loses his power. But I
do think the question of would you pardon your own
son if you were president of the United States factors
in here about the necessity of the lie buck, Why
did you feel compelled to lie? So I asked this question.
(01:37):
I'm going to retweet it right now at Clay Travis
on Twitter. If you were president of the United States
and your son was facing prison time for gun and
drug felony convictions, would you pardon him? Twenty thousand people
so far voted in this pull buck that I just retweeted.
(01:57):
What do you think the results are? Said said before
that you would pardon your son. You don't have a
kid yet, but soon hopefully. I've said that I would
as well. And again, I do think there's a deligonation
the reason why I put those particular charges in. Did
I say it again?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
You did it again?
Speaker 1 (02:16):
That's the way that I'm going to pronounce that word.
I do think there is a distinction between if your
son was charged with murder or if he were charged
with a relatively.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
In this case, non violent offense. Right. You know, the
writer Christopher Hitchins, whom I always admired for his writing
skill and his fearlessness. Didn't agree with them on everything,
but agreed with them on some important things. He used
to say that he called it the lunch test, where
when you sit down with somebody for the first time
and you're having lunch and they say, you know, oh
I you know, I yeah, I ran in some tax
(02:52):
problems or some insider trading. You say, all right, you know,
no big deal, like you're not a bad guy. Stuff happens,
you know, you paid your to society. Whatever. Sit down
and someone's like, yeah, you know, guilty of like two
murderers or you know something really hateous. You probably don't
finish the lunch, right, I mean, I think the same
thing applies to the part in even of a family member.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
So eighty percent of you said you would pardon your
son if you were president in this situation. So buck
when I see those numbers, and that's about what I
would have expected. And by the way, the counter argument,
which Carol Markowitz shared is, actually, guys, the reason Hunter
ends up behaving the way that he does in his
(03:34):
forties and on into his fifties is because there never
have been consequences levied against him for his past misbehaviors,
and I do think there's a strong argument there. In
other words, the failure to hold Hunter accountable in his
youth is what led to his adult transgressions. Now some
(03:56):
will say, oh, well, he was a drug addict, so
he wasn't aware of what he I'm not giving him
a pass on that, because you have to be pretty
committed to extorting millions of dollars out of your dad's associates,
and even if you're a drug addict. So I don't
buy the drug addict argument here. I think Hunter might
(04:18):
have gotten more money and been more efficient and effective
at the Biden crime family if he hadn't been a
drug addict. In other words, I don't buy that the
drug addiction caused this behavior. I think that's a lie. Yes,
I think the sloppiness was a result of the addiction.
The addiction wasn't the cause of the criminality. That's a
different thing. And I think that he probably would have
(04:40):
gotten away with all of this intel. First of all,
have you ever left your laptop somewhere Clay for so long?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Think about this? You're left like the one thing I've
show you, the same thing. We live our lives in thoughts,
and communications and writing. Right that you would leave your
laptop somewhere and just forget about it. I'm crazy. That's
a that's a druggy move right there. That's not something
that you would normally do. Uh. And that's what led
to all of this in the first place, or at
(05:08):
least I should say, that's what blew it all open.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
You know John Solomon when I was at the Hill,
I give him credit. He was on the Hunter bide
In Beisma stuff super early and writing about it there
and had had a lot of the you know, the
the early evidence about that. But the laptop thing blew
it wide open. And the the thing that here is
as well, the criminality is this isn't really a question
(05:33):
of alleged right. This is one thing that they always
leave out. They would say about Trump going into this election.
They would they would always say, you know, he they
would say things like he's a sexual assaulter or like
he is you know, he's he's a he's a rapist,
and then they would try to do the oh, the
civil case proves that he is. No, the civil case
doesn't prove that actually, and that's not the standard for
(05:55):
criminal conviction. For a good reason the things that they
accused Trump or even some of the people in Trump's
orbit are disputed. Right. Trump doesn't say, yeah, I did
the crime, but I'm not doing the time. He says
I didn't do it. With Hunter Biden, No one thinks
that he didn't. Like, he's agreed that he didn't pay taxes,
(06:15):
he's agreed that he was getting paid this money. It's
known that he didn't that he was a drug user
when he checked the form. Paying prostitutes is also illegal
in the states that he was in, by the way,
Like and drug use, cocaine crack I think was crack.
It wasn't a crack. Oh yeah it crack? Yeah, Hunter
good heavens, those are all crimes. You see what I mean.
(06:37):
It's not they they like to equate the Biden stuff
with the Trump stuff, but the Hunter Biden stuff, and
I would argue some of the Joe Biden stuff that's
connected to it, But the Hunter Biden stuff is public record,
law breaking. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, Oh,
there was not a single thing that they have accused
Donald Trump of where he goes, Yeah, I broke the
law on that, but you know, no big deal. He's
(06:59):
like I didn't break any law.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Also, Trump got impeached for asking about Hunter Biden's illegal behavior. Yes,
I know everyone wants to pretend that that didn't happen.
The phone call that he had with Zolenski before the
invasion happened between Russia and Ukraine. The first Ukraine story
was Trump saying, hey, maybe you can look into whether
(07:23):
the Biden crime family is actually the Biden crime family,
which they are, and the corruption there. They did nothing
to Hunter. Hunter now has got a get out of
jail free. The entire Biden family has gotten to get
out of jail free. They tried to impeach Donald Trump
for merely bringing it up. I do think that's significant.
But I also think this ties in with the calculus
(07:45):
from Biden. Fuck if he had just come out and said, hey,
what you said, which is I don't think it's appropriate
for any president to prejudge any decision as it pertains
to a hardening anyone when my ternment office is coming
to a close, I will look at it. That would
(08:07):
have been a fine answer. We would have known probably
what he was gonna do. But it's not a lie. Instead,
I think this is really important. They all sat down
and said we're just gonna lie, because politically it would
be so toxic. We think for him to say that
he might even consider a pardon, that we're just gonna
(08:28):
directly lie and after the election will do it anyway.
But Buck, if my numbers are correct, if seventy eight
percent of people or eighty percent of people understand that
they would pardon their own son if given that power,
I don't even know that they're right that it would
have been politically damaging, but for the lawfair against Trump,
(08:50):
which is what the hypocrisy would have been hard to overlook.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I would also say, if Joe Biden were a man
of any honor, which he is not, he could come
out and say, my son, you know, my son has
suffered from addiction. It you know, it's been very difficult
as a father, I've suffered. You know. He talks about
the tragedies in his life for political a lot all
the time. There's that photo that's being shared right now
(09:16):
of him being sworn in as a senator with his
son still in the host. Sociopathy, just the like sociopathic
exploitation of family tragedy for political gain. So it's not
like he's above this. But if he came out and said, look,
it's my son. I love my son. He's a drug addict,
he didn't hurt anybody. He kind of screwed over the government,
and I'm not letting him go to prison, I would say,
(09:39):
you know, well, he still would have lied about it
the whole time, but at least now you'd say, well,
he's coming clean with this. They're not even coming clean today.
They're pretending that there has been a persecution of Hunter.
This is what Biden in his statement that the reason
he has to pardon him is the fear of Trump
doing extra league or unfair partisan things to his son.
(10:03):
So he's not even taking blame for it. Now, do
you see what I mean. It's not even like, look,
my son messed up, I love him, I'm pardoning him.
It's well, we have to because of Trump.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
And that picture of him getting sworn in is and
we've talked about this on the show a lot, and
I'm sure many of you have seen it. In the
wake of that car accident, which he lied about, of course,
because he's lied about everything. His wife ran a red light,
right like they claimed that she got hit by a
drunk driver, but actually it was her failure. It's awful, right,
(10:32):
we don't want anybody get a bad car accident. But
they tried to claim that a drunk driver hit her.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
And that's not a victimless lie because someone out there
was involved in that very traumatic accident and it, by
all events, by all the data, or you know, all
the facts we have, was not his fault. Correct. And
to be called a reckless drunk driver who calls the
murder of I mean, or the death of a woman
I should say, which could be vehicular manslaughter, it's a
(10:56):
horrible lie to say. It's not a victimless lie.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Also, it's enough, I mean, does anybody if you are
unfortunate enough. It's just an example of Biden being willing
to lie even when it's unnecessary. Like Biden's lies oftentimes
start in some form of truth and then skyrocket and
spiral into a different world. But he could have been
(11:19):
sworn in anywhere. The fact that he made his kids
get dressed up in their hospital beds and they took
a photo of him being sworn in with his kids
in their hospital beds.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
This is not a good dude.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
I'm sorry, it's just it's not a good dude, and
I come back to it's a ten year get out
of jail free card. And again much of the focus
is on Hunter, but really what Joe Biden is doing
is protecting Joe Biden, because if he gives Hunter a pardon,
it becomes more difficult to come after the Biden crime family.
(11:54):
Because Hunter's interactions with all of these foreign oligarchs. I
think it's fair to call them that were the pivot
point by which the payments all arrived for the Biden
crime family. And it is perfect distillation of the hypocrisy
here that Democrats have argued for years no one is
(12:15):
above the law as justification for why Trump should be prosecuted,
and then right now we clearly see Hunter Biden clearly
above the law.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I mean again, I'm not I'm not trying to relitigate
after the fact you won the most expensive stake. I
think in the history of the universe. That's fine, that's fine.
They should have run Joe and then had him do
the part in step down and pivot to Kamala. This
would have been a better move, meaning step down if
Biden won the election, right, because now the whole they've
(12:47):
got the Biden the Biden family is done and tarnished.
Kamala is done as a political candidate. This is why
you can really sense it. There's like devastation at the
top of the Democrat Party right now because they don't
even have a brand to carry the resistance going forward.
They got nothing right now.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
They swept the deck clean. It will be a positive
by midterms. When I think this is an early prediction,
you can flag it. I think Democrats will take back
the House in twenty twenty six, which is one reason
why Republicans have to act so quickly and really only
have about eighteen months to get anything done until you
lose control of the House. I think Republicans will keep
(13:26):
the Senate, but they now have the ability to figure
out who is the face of the party without having
to have Kamala there now as the black woman that
they can't get past because she's black and a woman
and all they care about is identity politics. She got
crushed and I think her political career is over. I
think she's Michael Ducacus. I think they're going to have
(13:48):
her off on some sinecure job that she doesn't have
to work for where she gets paid millions of dollars
and I don't think she'll ever run for anything again.
And we haven't even I think that awful video which
we haven't that happened why we were not on air.
The video they put up of Kamala looking like death itself.
I don't even know who's signed off on that video,
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You know, one thing that is definitely going to be
at the top of the Trump agenda, as we've all
been discussing and preparing for, is what to do about
the deep state, what to do about the DJ the abuses,
the extremely unfair treatment of January sixth involved defendants. You
(15:59):
know the term now, Clay that the generally the pro
criminal left uses is justice involved. You know, that's the
new thing. So you know, if somebody, if like a
cartel hitman, kills seven people and you know, cuts off
their heads and throws them in the closet or something.
Is justice involved? You know it's a justice involved individual.
Oh okay, he's involved with justice? Yeah really? Or welly
(16:23):
in terminology. My point here, though, is the battle to
deal with the true deep state operations within the FBI,
the extremely unfair treatment of January sixth defendants, the tactics
that were used to go after some of them, to
ruin their lives. What happened on January sixth? Who is
(16:45):
the pipe bomber? Remember how there were pipe bombs? We
never found that. We got cameras everywhere. You have probably
more law enforcement in Washington, DC at that period of
time than anywhere else. It's certainly in the United States,
maybe on the planet, except for like I don't know,
some parts of Beijing. You've got all this law enforcement.
They can't figure out who left the bombs there. That
(17:05):
seems quite strange. Also, were there any informants? Were there
any undercover FBI agents in the January sixth crowd? We
can get answers to that, now, real answers, Because if
people think they can destroy those files play, that's official
misuse of position, that's official misconduct, that's a crime. You
can't actually destroy those files.
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what was going on at Instagram, what was going on
at Facebook, what was going on at TikTok. And it
seems to me that many of the social media companies
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And there is a reordering that is going on right
now in the media that is massively important, and I
think it's got long range consequences. MSNBC. Buck just hit
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then Temple of Doom. They're all very good. We're not
talking about the two additional ones. But there is a
moment in that movie, Temple of Doom, where Indiana Jones
has drank the blood serum and has lost his ability
(20:27):
to think rationally, and he is a member of the
cult that is supporting this Indian priest.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Spoiler alert, by the way, if you.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Hadn't said if you haven't seen Temple of Doom, and
short Round runs up to him and burns him, and
when he has burned, he suddenly sees the truth. An
optimist in me, Buck thinks that Trump's election for a
lot of the woke American population has had that Short
(21:02):
Round branding Indiana Jones and waking him up from the cult,
that they were a part of moment. And there's evidence
for this. And I've been asking this question, if you
had been lied to about everything surrounding COVID. If you'd
been lied to about very fine people and Donald Trump
being a Nazi and all these things, at some point,
(21:26):
wouldn't you have to wake up? Wouldn't you have to
recognize that much of what you had come to believe
was actually false. I think there is finally a reckoning
taking place at MSNBC at CNN, with many different left
wing commenters out there, and this latest Biden pardon of
(21:49):
Hunter is yet another thing. You may not agree with
this show on a day to day basis, but over
the last four years, we've gotten almost everything that is
very consequential.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Right. We've told you where things were headed, We've told
you what the outcomes were likely to be. And when
we're wrong, and I was wrong.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
About twenty twenty two, we come on and say, hey,
we got something wrong.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Have you ever heard anybody explained why we think it?
Got it? People? Or was? You know? And they're not
standing out because we nailed this election boom. But some people,
being a little bit of doubting, you know, being a
little bit of doubters, would say, well, what about the
red wave? In twenty twenty two there was a surge
of Republican voters. It just surged in the wrong places
(22:35):
at the wrong time to get the electro outcome we wanted.
New York California Republicans were able to deliver the House
because there were a lot more read votes there. And
you know, look, we had a couple of week candidates.
Things didn't go your way, but that wasn't off by
a lot. The media that we're talking about, I mean
Clay they said not only the Hunter Biden wasn't going
(22:57):
to get pardon, They told everybody the Joe Biden was fine.
I think in the back of people's minds, the cover
up of the Biden dementia situation, which MSNBC were huge,
you know, in the vanguard. They were the cheerleaders, cheerleaders
for this. To anyone who is discerning and paying attention
to the narrative creation machinery that is the news media,
(23:21):
you had to look at everything that they were going
to say about the twenty twenty four election. Anybody who
said that Biden's fine, well, clearly he wasn't, and clearly
they should have known that, and clearly they did know that.
So everything else they say about Kamala you gotta think
these people are liars.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
And how about the fact that they pivoted from Kamala
is the worst VP and they potentially should consider replacing
her to joint Read on election night claimed that she
ran a flawless campaign.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
And then my favorite election night analysis, by the way,
that was the best thing set all in all election night.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Can we pull that, by the way, because I think
she said, do you remember what she followed it up with?
She ran such a flawless campaign. You know who endorsed
Joe Biden, I mean, sorry, Kamala Harris, Queen Latifa, that.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Was I mean, I'm not even making this up. This
was her argument.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Joy Read at the collapsing MSNBC network said that Kamala
ran such a phenomenal campaign that even Queen Latifa, who
never endorses anybody, endorsed Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Kid.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
The one thing that I feel very confident of buck
is celebrity endorsements is basically open, like as I think
social media has.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Okay, social media first undermined the people at the New
York Times, who at ten am would put out on
Twitter Trump is Hitler and then go on CNN at
seven pm and say, well, I'm just a journalist. I
don't have opinions. That was the beginning of the end
for them because we saw it was a matter of
public record in a sense, what they really thought. And
(24:56):
with celebrities, you know, we figured out they are real,
really dumb. Not all of them, right, There are smart celebrities,
and there are smart celebrities who don't agree with us.
I'm not saying that everybody who votes Democrat who's a
celebrity is dumb, but a lot of the pop culture
political voices out there, you know, and you know now
they're saying that Clooney felt like he was bullied into
(25:19):
bullying Biden out of the race. These people have just
no shame. They have no brain, and they're trying all
this stuff. But because we see them on social media
and they can expose what they really think. Did you
see the Jane Fonda thing with Bill Maher. I mean,
I know she's she's an older woman. Did you see
these some of these clips play she doesn't think that
(25:40):
California has enough regulation. She's living on another planet. She
lives in a reality that does not exist. I have
done enough TV and even some movies. Thank you, Daily Wire.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
The idea that actors and actresses are uniquely smart and
perceptive on anything.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Is maybe the dumbest.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Thing that has ever taken root in American modern history.
The data reflects that the more obsessed you are with celebrities,
the dumber you yourself tend to be. And I'm not
saying I don't like watching television shows or whatever else,
but they're actors and actresses like they actually don't have
a great depth of knowledge in anything else. They sit
(26:23):
around in a trailer all day, memorize a few lines,
go out and do it like twenty five different times.
I would be bored to death being an actor. I've
done movies, I've done television, I've filmed a lot of
stuff over the years. We are live right now, you
and I talking. Thank the Lord. Everything we say, for
(26:44):
better or worse, goes out to everybody. If we had
to do the same take over and over and over again,
I would shoot myself in the head. Like these are
awful in many ways jobs for many people out there.
The idea that we ever allowed these people to be
considered voices of of of of unique perception in America
(27:05):
has been exploded. I also think Buck, there's a whole
there's so much celebrity now that it.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Used to be there was mystery. It's diffuse, it's a
it's a it's look in the in the modern era.
If you're a one, if you're a young woman who
is just outrageously good looking, like you won the genetics lottery,
and you want to be famous, there's one hundred percent
chance you're gonna be famous. Yeah, okay. And if you're
a young guy and you know, you really want to
(27:33):
find a way and you're willing to kind of work
on your craft or whatever. I'm talking about these YouTubers
and you know Instagram and TikTok, which by the way,
isn't being banned. And now Trump is on and conservatives
are on. It was just me and Jamal Bowman for
a while, their play Me and my buddy Jamal Bowman.
You that TikTok I.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Was partly on the Jamal Bowman buck buck Sexton train.
I wanted and I still think it's important that Chinese
interests not be able to own TikTok, but I think
that company should exist.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
You can't just like smash a company because it has
some foreign ownership and you're just deciding you don't like it.
I mean, that's a really bad precedent. So anyway, it's
also really fun. I've learned how to seer and reverse
seer and Suvid steaks like nobody's business thanks to TikTok.
A lot of good gun content by the way, on
well YouTube, particularly with TikTok as well. So until they
(28:25):
probably get rid of it all soon, Clay, I would
just say the ability to be famous for nothing that
requires discipline and honestly a lot of luck. Is it's
easier to get famous now that it's ever been, So
being really famous doesn't really mean all that much. It's
it's less powerful than it used to be to a
(28:46):
lot of people. You know, there was a time when
if you were a top Hollywood actor, every pronouncement you
would make on everything was somehow in the news. Oh
you know. And this is also I think this is
to the discredit or to the the week not to
get into this conversation, and we are going to talk
about New York City migrants coming up in the next
hour and what I saw there and what's going on.
Also the Daniel pennycase, the updates on that, So more
(29:10):
news coming your way in a second. But Clay, the
British royal family. They were kind of the original reality
TV show Superstars in a sense, or reality Superstars, And
I just think now there's just so much other noise
out there that it doesn't sell newspapers quite the way
it used to. Yeah, and I also this is the
other thing that I think is huge in terms of
(29:31):
the way the media is shattering and being rebuilt in
real time. It used to be someone who had a
platform had to say I'm going to make you famous.
You got selected to be on Friends, you became a
columnist at the New York Times. Somebody put you on
MSNBC or ESPN or Fox News or whatever it was
(29:56):
and basically said you're going to be famous. Not to
say those people are not talented, but that was somebody
on high producers owners. They decided who the figures were
that we all saw and that were famous. To your point,
now anybody can become famous instantaneously on TikTok, on YouTube,
(30:21):
on Instagram. I'm not saying it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Take work, but the top down model of I'm going
to make you famous does not really exist in the
same way. It's a bottom up policy. And again, the
name on the back of the Jersey. The way that
I would sum that up matters more now than the
name on the front. It used to be like, I'm
with the Washington Post, and therefore you should talk to me.
(30:44):
And now a lot of people are like, so, what,
like the top down mantra in media is collapsing.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
You know, I've been in this game, especially on the
conservative media side of things. Play well, I've been a
consumer of it for oh my gosh, I don't know now,
like almost thirty years, and and working at it for
almost fifteen years. And this is kind of the dream
of conservative media commentary stretching back to the you know,
(31:11):
the early days of Rush and then and then the
rise of the Internet and Fox News, and would be
that the Washington Post no longer held any sway over
the public mind outside of their own very partisan readership.
And I think we're we're pretty much there, or getting
close to there, meaning no one. And a perfect example
(31:33):
of this is when The New York Times ran a
front page article on Tucker Carlson saying he's a white nationalist,
and everybody who wasn't emotionally destabilized by Trump laughed and
was like, yeah, sure, Tucker, right, nice try and by
the way, to Tucker's credit, he posed posed with the article,
laughing at it, and it got far more distribution than
(31:56):
the actual article itself. Yeah. So some of these cycle
logical chains, bonds that the corporate media, that the establishment
corporate media has had, they are actually broken right now.
I mean some are still breaking, some are broken. But
this is a big change, which is also why I
think the Democrats are trying to figure out what do
(32:18):
they do now, how do they try to stand away
this administration. We'll take some of your calls here coming up,
and like I said, we'll talk about some of the
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Speaker 1 (34:10):
So there was a big game over the weekend primetime game.
Congratulations Texas Longhorns for the win over Texas A and M.
Seventeen to seven primetime game going to have a massive
audience there was. There was a bunch of arrests, as
one might imagine surrounding the big game, not just at
(34:31):
Texas A and M, but every big game.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
But there were two guys.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Tickets were so expensive Buck that two guys dressed as
fake construction workers and tried to.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Sneak in while claiming that they were construction workers. They
had made their own credentials. I don't know if this
is a fraternity prank. They were arrested again. They had
names on their credentials to work as construction workers. Inside
of the game.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
A twenty one year old from College station their moms
and dads might be listening, by the way, because we
are huge all over Texas and a twenty two year
old from the Houston area were arrested. The names on
their fake credentials. I can barely say it with a
straight face. Were Harry Askrack and Duncan mccochinner.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Somebody's parents got a phone somebody's parents got a phone
call that their college sons had been I don't know,
I honestly, And by the way, here's the official report.
Two men wearing reflective vests and hard hats entered the
stadium with fake construction credentials. They were arrested for criminal trespass.
(35:48):
Mom and dad may be listening to us right now.
I don't know how mom reacted.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
I guarantee you that Dad had a really hard time,
even though you don't want to get your kid arrested
in college when he found now that the two kids
were going with fake construction credentials to sneak into the
game under the names Harry as Crack and Duncan mccon McCone.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
There is no dat alive that kept the straight face.
I'm sorry all of you out there right now are done.
I hope the parents or the grandparents are sneak us
right now, because when I saw this come across my
Twitter feed, I just I could not keep a straight face.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
I mean, this is one of the funniest things. Just amazing.
I can't really follow so much. What's the worst thing.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
I can just imagine these kids, like, what's the worst
thing that's gonna happen. Of course we're gonna get in
the game. You just go as Harry ass crack. I'll
go as Duncan mccochin or it's genius.
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